Take-Two sends C&D to OpenIV

>>380496365
well at least OpenIV is open source so it can still be developed regardless of what take 2 says. Even then you don't necessarily NEED openIV to mod GTA

>>380496593
>Even then you don't necessarily NEED openIV to mod GTA

Yeah you can still slap a reshade on it so we're golden

Good. Nothing in life is free, you dirty commy twats.

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>>380496942

>>380496365
this means they are doing a remaster of GTA IV
and want to take out any competition

>>380496365
Wow at least take two are dealing with the rampant hacking problems GTA V has!

Oh wait they aren't unless the hackers are giving people free stuff, in which case they ban the people who got the free stuff instead.

>>380496942
*commie

>>380497064
Ironically the hackers are probably not even using openiv

>>380496365
Yessss finally..

>>380497058
OpenIV is used mainly for GTAV now, they just kept the name since IV

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>forums about a game where niggers murder and rape people and stuff
>vulgar words are censored

>>380498035
Heh yeah they probably don't even steal cars and murder IRL even though it's in the game. BAKA

Sounds like the lead dev is a lil bitch that just wants to stop deving for it.

>>380498369
>BAKA
s.m.h*
Damn weeb site

>>380498921
You saying he made up the c&d? What's wrong with you

>>380496942
This, they should be paid mods

I didn't think they'd go this far.

>>380501962
FLASHING

GTA Online was the worst thing to ever happen

>>380498964
you have to go back

>>380496942
Oy now that's good thinking goy!

>>380502340
LIGHTS
>>380502687
This because you know it's going to ruin RDR2

>>380496942
Just goes to show that all the Trumpers are kike puppets as well.

Are they mad that the GTA life mods are becoming so popular?

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>People still keep buying this game
>People still keep buying shark cards

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Take-Two must have been feeling left out with everyone talking about the bethesda fiasco.

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>>380503789
>GTA VI comes with a paid mods system

>>380499803
>Update
I wouldn't be surprised if the team did.

Im just not convinced it is real. He even said there were spelling errors and grammar errors which to me indicates a fake.

>>380505185
I'm pretty sure if they were to fake it they would not make any grammatical mistakes. Not saying it's not fake tho, just that the team did not fabricate it

>>380505312
Either way im convinced it is fake.

What are some must install GTA V mods for singleplayer?

>>380506385
say no more pham
https://www.gta5-mods.com/vehicles/fidget-spinner

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>>380506746
Damn.....
No but seriously i would really like some reccomendations

>>380496365
>we could easily fix this
>but we don't want to so instead we are shutting everything down
Lazy fags

>>380507301
>I'll go to court and fight these guys so I can continue improving their game for free!
You'd have to be a massive cuck to do this

Don't know about V because
>Denuvo
But you can still mod IV fine because you replace files in that game to mod it. Unless they go out of their way to add that DRM onto the .exe but why even bother.

>>380507960
You can mod pirated GTA V,anyway Rockstar is retarded if they think that this will fix anything.

probably a retarded question since i know dick all about business shit but how come rockstar is owned by take two? they're fucking huge but still take two's bitch.

>>380507960
GTAV doesn't use denuvo, never did

>>380497228
>>380497228
they aren't, that's not how hacking online works whatsoever. OpenIV is only meant for singleplayer.

>>380508437
And they are taking legal action against that because?

>>380509123
Because fuck you that's why. No nice things, ever.

>>380509123
Because it can "manipulate game content " what is against EULA. And looking at dripfed content.

>>380496365
Is there a crack for this piece of shit game yet so I can mod it and not be banned?

>>380509718
If so, they actually probably don't have legal ground to stand on as Galoob v. Nintendo probably applies. They would have legal grounds if OpenIV were somehow infringing upon their copyrights, but they're probably just trolling.

>>380496365
>Mod allows you to access paid content(shitty microtransaction cars) for free
>HURR MODS R ILLEGAL WAHHHH

fuck off

>>380503408
How?

>>380510474
There has been since release

>>380497780

No, he means that OpenIV was developing Liberty City for V.

>>380511237
But that wouldn't compete with a GTAIV remaster, it's just a map for GTAV

>>380510786

OpenIV doesn't access free cash. OpenIV is for customizing in-game assets, etc.

Think before you write, faggot.

Can you get OpenIV from another place?

>>380496365
>ends post with reddit: the quote
Good riddance

>>380506953
https://www.gta5-mods.com/misc/euphoria-ragdoll-overhaul-ero

https://www.gta5-mods.com/misc/world-of-variety

https://www.gta5-mods.com/misc/visualv

>>380511526
That would actually be copyright infringement though, so it only matters if 2K sees it as a potential competitor.

>>380496365
Shit sucks, however it's kind a good thing that modders will stop making mods for these kikes.

>>380496365
What the fuck is this for real? They won't develop openiv? Does that remains the Liberty city mod they were working on is now gone?

>>380512597
>That would actually be copyright infringement
It wouldn't, they weren't going to upload the map but use a tool that converts files from your GTAIV copy to GTAV

This is such bullshit, the only reason I've played as much GTA V as I have is because I keep fucking around with mods.
>>380513209
I assume they've stopped working on it

>>380512462
Does Wov work well with the latest update?

As far as I know, yes

i dont even know why they even bothered. the cash shop is rockstar's baby, you could create a mod that just add more colors for pants and jewstar would shut you down. you absolutely cannot make anything that takes away from the cash shop, make something that other people can play outside of cash shop online, or make content that they could make and sell on the cash shop. gta is dead and rdr2 is next. it's over.

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>PC is better than consoles for a myriad reasons, among them being: modding

>modding is now declared illegal
>on top of very, VERY few games supporting mods in the first place

How long will it be until "PC gaming" and "modding" will never be used in the same sentence ever again?

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>>380514339

If you think cuckstar isn't behind this then you are pretty dumb. Also, kinda funny how it states in the eula that you are not allowed to reverse engineering the game but you can't mod it because of the fucking encrypted game data files.

>>380514263
>>380513856

>>380513209
>Does that remains the Liberty city mod they were working on is now gone?
this is the worst part about it for me, I was looking forward to that

V modding has been dead for over a year, who cares.

>>380514339
As soon as it happens with "PC gaming" and "piracy"

i only used that gigantic awesome player mansion and extra garages for single player and thankfully none of them require openiv. the direction openiv was going it was only a matter of time before they got shut down, the liberty city one is just a huge flag that says please sue us

>>380503408
>bringing politics into something that's not even remotely political.

Don't you have a baseball field to shoot up?

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>make a very VERY cool concept like GTA Online
>Also make the loading times insufferable to the point where the fun/wait ratio is bordering autistic levels
>Get mad when people mod their own online modes

Is Rockstar... dare I say it...? KEKED?

>>380516378
>VERY cool concept like GTA Online
If you're underage maybe

>>380516638
No, it's a pretty cool idea to run around with other players doing GTA shit, but stay on that elitist high horse

>Open IV has been a thing for 10 years - 10 FUCKING YEARS
>decide only now to C&D

Its fucking baffling

>>380516378
any coolness for online evaporated as soon as the cash shop took off.

There really should be an express court that prescreens megacorp vs. normal people lawsuits, immediedly throws out blatantly false ones and slaps fines on the kikes trying to abuse the justice system.

I wonder if this is still coming out
https://youtu.be/aZqH11eKp44

>>380515960
Liberty city project doesn't breaks any law. It needs your copy of gta 4 to be installed.

>>380516874
>openiv recently started working on gta v

there's your answer. anything that threatens cash shop online is swiftly shut down.

>>380517207
>recently started working on gta v

Define recently, recently is 5 years ago, basically soon after GTAV released on PC

>>380516874
Can't have the community develop better content than their own, who will buy shark cards then?

fuck everything and let it burn

>>380517303
>2 years ago was 5 years ago
Damn I feel old...

Buy more sharkcards goy

>>380516698
That was already in GTAIV, the concept of GTAO was the same except with grinding cheap repetitive side missions and shark cards

>>380514339
Modding is not illegal. Take-Two is overstepping their boundaries by claiming that their software is exempt from fair-use laws.

They just know that amateur modders don't have the time or money to take them on in court.

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>>380516139
The one who made it political was the one he was responding to by calling people who want mods " dirty commy twats". I think you're just upset he brought up politics you disagree with.

>>380516139
>>bringing politics into something that's not even remotely political.
>>380496942
>Good. Nothing in life is free, you dirty commy twats.
>dirty commy twats.

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>>380501186

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>>380496942
You aren't fooling anyone fucking kike.

>>380517114
No, it's clearly bullshit. That's got a million shaders on it

>>380503678
>It's still $60

>>380520075
Name one

>>380511596
There is a link over at reddit.com/r/modpiracy

Bump

We can't let them get away with this

>>380521094
ENB

>>380521120
Not a shader

>>380517047
Your first mistake is assuming the legal system is there to get justice for normal people.

>>380518117
politics in video games is okay when it's politics I agree with

>>380521103
Yes, fucking modders crying about getting C&D'd because they illegally modify my...I mean rockstar games. You should support them by buying a shark card

>>380496365
Good. Stop piggy-backing over other's intellectual property you dumb parasites.

>>380521689
>+1 Red Shark!

All they had to do was release the source code under the GPL and none of this would have happened. Closed source software does not respect your four freedoms and allows corporations to restrict and abuse you.

>>380521689
Great job. Tw more posts and you will receive a 10% more RP bonus

>>380521786
>>380522315
>everyone who disagrees with me must be shilling!
Safespace tards

>>380522440
>+5 GE!

>>380496365

It's their property, they can do what they like with it.

I think it's petty and dumb though.

>>380522440
>Armored Kuruma has been sent to your garage

>>380522636
Read the thread. It's not legal, they're just doing it because they know they won't be countersued.

>>380522440
Now that's the attitude I want. You got yourself +5% more money on stunt races

>>380522772
Oy vey how there you under-reward our greatest allies! Double RP and money for Human Labs for him!

>>380522636
Exactly, if you own a game you can do what you like with it, such as modding it.

>>380521689
You seem to be working under the pretension that modders charge for their work.

>>380523008
Doesn't matter. Modders devalue intellectual property by creating primarily shit content under the brand's name. It's bad marketing and it dilutes your consumerbase.

>>380523182
>dilutes consumer base
>thousands of mods for GTAIV
>thousands of mods for GTAV
>devalue
But its kept the games alive for as long as they have been

>>380496365
>"We spend 10 years working on our porgram to make modding possible for gta 4 and 5"
>"Ahh, who gives a fuck about it, pack it up boys, we shouldn't fight takeshit, we should close OpenIV like the cucks we are."

> Walk into McDonalds.
> Order a Big Mac with Fries.
> Collect your order, go to your table and sit down.
> Decide to put some Ketchup on your burger.
> Instantly get arrested, and taken to court, how dare you, you don't own the intellectual rights to that big mac, you can't alter it freely.

>>380496942
I think modders are entitled but communism is correct tho

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ayyy

>>380523182
>Modders devalue intellectual property
They literally do the exact opposite you drooling ape. End yourself.

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>It's bad marketing and it dilutes your consumerbase.

This guy is a fucking idiot.

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Let's take a moment to mourn and remember the how and why this industry will perish. Like a fenix, it will be reborn, and Online Shark Cards is its name. Every other publisher will try their hand at it, after R* showed it earns an absurd amount of money from it.

>>380523437
You have any idea how much taking it to court costs? Including the time it would take meaning is a deep and prolonged money sink?

>>380523437
Do you have thousand of dollars that you could donate to the OpenIV team for their legal fees against a multibillion dollar company?

>>380523182
>under the brand's name
They're mods, you're contradicting yourself.

>>380523182
If it's such shit content then why do people use it? Maybe it's not for you or Take 2 to decide if mods are shit, but the free market.

>>380523384
>But its kept the games alive for as long as they have been
No, GTA Online has kept the game alive for as long as it has, try again.
>>380523693
>They literally do the exact opposite you drooling ape
The market in nearly every industry has universally disagreed. Modding corrupts intellectual property rights and is thus bad for content creators like devs.

>>380523182
Many games still get bought because of the modding potential they have,stop being a retarded goy.

This happens when someone at the top tells their legal advisers that they're being paid for doing nothing 99% of the time so they have to do this from time to time.

A friend of mine actually works with Zenimax's legal team, this shit is common.

>>380523437
See >>380507608

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>>380523925

Kill yourself.

>>380523925
Not counting all the amazing content for GTAIV and SA

>>380523879
>Maybe it's not for you or Take 2 to decide if mods are shit, but the free market.

But you've just contradicted yourself. GTA is Take 2's property, modders can't use it to make their own products even free products. If I can make a better product but I must steal materials to get it, it's not the free market's job to reward me as it violates my inviolable right to property.

>the letter is full of grammatical mistakes
The letter is fake, no doubt

>>380496942
Well Oy Vey to you too

>>380523735
Not really, see
>>380523683
And they could easily stop this trend with one (1) single player GTA V expansion. But they're going for the quick buck and getting curbstomped for it.

> SoE RP server goes down in a blaze of glory after the admins are found to be dicks.
> Small GTA modding scene suddenly has the attention of a multi-billion dollar company who weren't aware of it before.

Hmm.

>>380522440
You tell em, goy!

>>380524276
I wouldnt be surprised. They are probably being lazy cunts.

>>380523925
That's why Bethesda put so much work into not only modding tools on PC, but even going as far as to negotiate getting mods onto consoles, right?

>>380523925
>The market in nearly every industry has universally disagreed
Are you fucking retarded? The market has no problem with modding, people want the freedom to mod because it adds value to the content they buy. The only people who have a problem with it is the copyright cartel who spew dumb shit like "Modding corrupts intellectual property rights". If you think modding is bad for content creators, many of which started out modding before they worked in the industry then you are literally brain damaged.

>>380524598
If they really want to get rid of openiv then they woud do it in a professional manner. Remebe when the fiveM dev was visited by two agents from taketwo?

>>380524476
>SoE RP server goes down in a blaze of glory after the admins are found to be dicks.

Sounds hilarious, what happened

>>380524790
>That's why Bethesda put so much work into not only modding tools on PC, but even going as far as to negotiate getting mods onto consoles, right?

Bethesda's playing the long game though, they're only allowing mods cause they can monetize them and take the money they deserve for use of their property. It's no way similar to the Take 2 scenario.

>>380496365
is anyone gonna point out how that retarded russian fuck complained about illiteracy and then proceeded to type illiterate sentences?

>really, they don't even bothered with proof-reading text

>>380524348
All they need to recover is say Red Dead Redeption 2 with a new screenshot.
What do you think the online for that will be like? Like it was before? It's near impossible. They want another GTAO money machine, even if it means butchering whatever originality or talent they have.
>>380524276
That is weird. I wonder if the guy contacted Take Two to confirm. Although it could be a double edge sword. Contact them and they might say "that is fake but since you're contacting, here's an actual cease-and-desist"

>>380525248
>offical legal notice vs. forum post

>>380525248
Grasping at straws. Lawyers are required to have impeccable grammar.

>>380524271
You're the one contradicting yourself. A corporation stepping in and deciding for people what content is and isn't shit is the exact opposite of a free market. And you're conlfating intellectual property with actual property rights. Take 2 doesn't have ownership or control over every single copy of GTA post sale,

>If I can make a better product but I must steal materials to get it,
Really? Did you just equate modding to theft? For fucks sake.

>it's not the free market's job to reward me as it violates my inviolable right to property.
Again, you don't have inviolably rights to a product and how it's used post-sale. That's not what IP rights are.

It's like saying someone using a highliter on a book they bought violates the IP rights of the author because they think the pen highlighter being used is shit.

>>380525643
> Although it could be a double edge sword. Contact them and they might say "that is fake but since you're contacting, here's an actual cease-and-desist"
We'll know soon enough, Kotaku has confirmed they contacted Take-Two and Rockstar for comment but received no reply yet

>>380525223
That's pure conjecture and you know it. And none of it changes the fact that mods have added a lot of value to Bethesda's games going all the way back to Morrowind and don't come even close to "corrupting intellectual property rights" because it actively incentives people to buy the game. Even without this alleged monitization scheme mods as they are have been nothing but a benefit for the devs, to the point where they implemented mods in follow up games and DLC. And how is it not at all similar to the Take 2 scenario? They're both companies who put out games that are highly popular amongst modders, both companies have nothing but benefited from said modding communities.

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>>380496365
>"Modding GTA is now illegal"
>Post mentions about modding being illegal
>It's just a copyright violation
>still uses the term illegal

I shouldn't have expected people to know what illegal actually means, considering GTA consists of majorily children.

>>380525729
>And you're conlfating intellectual property with actual property rights

Dumb retard, they're one and the same.

> Take 2 doesn't have ownership or control over every single copy of GTA post sale

Pfft, I bet you think you own digital games to.

>Really? Did you just equate modding to theft? For fucks sake.
It's 100% a fair comparison, you're using someone elses code (property) without their permission. It may as well be theft.

>Again, you don't have inviolably rights to a product and how it's used post-sale.
Again, you don't own software, you own the license to own the software. I know /v/ is full of dumb as fuck kiddies but you should know the very first thing about IP law before talking about it.

This is a great way to guarantee that I will pirate all your future games.

>>380526394
>That's pure conjecture and you know it
They've already announce the return of paid mods stupid, it's not conjecture any more.

Now who will make those wonderful anime loli GTA mods

>>380525702
>This idiom refers to a drowning man grabbing any floating object, even a straw, to save himself

??? where was I defending myself
I'm just saying I'd be embarrassed if I were him. you're right though, apples & oranges and all that

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>>380526530

Imagine being this cucked by corporate interests that you actively argue against owning products you buy and literally believe modding is theft. What a fucking embarrassment you are.

>>380526660
Different anon. I'd argue that both companies started out as normal. Game is fun, people mod it, devs might encourage or just be content with it.
Yet, the industry shifted to the more money-grubbing mentality where if it's not actively profiting from it, it's bad. It's difficult to say how much mods actually made the respective companies money. Paid mods, or whatever retarded thing Bethesda is doing, same thing Take Two will inevitably experiment with as well, is to take control of the modders for the sake of profiting from their passion.
I'd like to say it won't work, that modders just won't bother or go through other means to distribute mods, but this will open the floodgates to horribly made, 1 dollar worth, mass amount of mods, with every retard with a computer and a tutorial to try and profit.

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>>380527353
>REEE I CAN'T MAKE AN ARGUMENT SO LET ME MEME INSTEAD

Maybe take an Econ 101 class some day. Expand your horizons. You might learn something you know, and not look like a fucking moron next time.

>>380526660
Their new "paids mods" system is literally just a storefront for collaborations between Bethesda and outside developers curated by Bethesda, independent modders aren't able to sell their work. It's more akin to a mobile esqe microtransaction store than actual paid mods. Even if it were paid mods, the idea that Bethesda actively supported the modding community for over two decades just to be able to sell them is pure conjecture, and you continue to ignore the fact they benefited massively from mods even in their free state.

I told you paid mods would come back,retards will accept to eat shit if you keep pushing it into their mouths.

>>380526530
You're conflating Intellectual property to actual property and equated modding to theft, both of which actual IP law explicitly state otherwise.

You are a prime example of a dumb fuck kiddie on /v/ who doesn't have a fucking clue how IP law works, proven by the fact you spew "you only own the licence you don't own software!" like a breaindead slob.

>>380528443
this isn't paid mods, this is Take-Two cutting out the modding tool that allows for easy modding

They don't care at all for mods, they care about muh shark cards, and now see mods as a threat to their microtransaction induced greed

Fuck them

>>380496593
lel
OpenIV is not open source
seriously I wish it was but it's not

>>380525151

They were basically getting super salty about some of the people on the server streaming on Twitch and making money, got jealous.

>>380529035
Twitch is aids so they were right

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>>380527895
>REE I AM SILLY YOU DON'T OWN YOUR GAMES MODDING IS STEALING!

You never had a real argument to begin with, just babbling inane nonsense that exposed you as a fucking moron. Also I love how you kiddies always cite Econ 101 to posture as an authority on the economy to shitpost about game modding is theft like a drooling ape

Newsflash kid: You're a worthless random dipshit defending intellectual propety rights on a taiwanese loli sharing forum, nothing you say matters and when this thread 404's you will be completely forgotten.

>>380528128
Different anon.
Do you believe Bethesda supported modders out of the goodness of their hearts? Of course not, they just didn't think of a way to profit more directly. It's impossible to factually account how many games were sold due to people wanting to use mods. There was no system in place to profit from mods. That's why the first paid mod thing was a fiasco.
The people behind it didn't consider how daunting a task this is. And from what I've seen, this one isn't doing so well for their reputation as well. Yet, Bethesda are stubborn and idiots so they'll just lie through their teeth and hope for the best.

Liberty City in GTA V will never happen now :(

>>380526530
We're not talking about fucking Office here. We're talking about games, or licenses if we talk your talk.

Those licenses we never owned, yeah, yeah right we never owned that shit.

Well, apart the fact that we never owned it, we're still able to play those PS1/2/3 Xbox/360 NES/SNES/N64/GC/Wii licenses and all the older console's licenses today. Why? Because we own and paid for the physical media to be able to play those licenses, and this, whenever we feel like as long as we own the discs and the hardware to run those properly. That you want it or not it's a right we always had since the very beginning of gaming. You say we don't have the right? Good, I'm fucking waiting for the police to come and fucking get everything I have. They might get my ass in as well because man, when they'll see all those post-dated licenses I have home, they'll fucking shoot me at sight because I'd be one of the dangerous ones.

And you know what, I paid for those fucking licenses and it fucking feels GOOD to play those old licenses today. I don't want a bland future where everything I buy with the money I'm working my ass off to win will fucking vanish into thin air because of the simple fact that time has passed and I need to give it back to it's respective creator. Fucking BS I say.

I guess /v/ is just a bunch of fucking criminals that deserves jail time for adding a Mario skin in a GTA game

the industry's going to shit thanks to (((them)))

>>380529493
no kidding, I'm really pissed, its one of the most ambitious mods ever, and it was to be available only to those who had GTAIV on PC, so those who didn't would probably have gone and bought it just to play that mod so Take-Two would have made even more money

But they just threw that all away like a bunch of clueless fucking retards, unaware just how much modding is responsible for the success of GTAV on PC

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>>380529202
>You're a worthless random dipshit defending intellectual propety rights on a taiwanese loli sharing forum, nothing you say matters and when this thread 404's you will be completely forgotten.

You're right, but thankfully neither does yours. In the real world, where adults live unlike you live, the courts have already sided with Take 2 and sensible property rights for good reason. You and I can shoot the shit all we want, but I've already won, and thank god for that.

>>380503408
Trump is a kike lover and so are his faggot voters.

>>380521557
it's not illegal

>>380529839
>sensible property rights

>what is fair use

>>380523182
now you sound like a shill

>>380530192
>he thinks modding falls under fair use
Sure thing buddy

>>380529345
>Do you believe Bethesda supported modders out of the goodness of their hearts?
No, and I never suggested that they did. Bethesda supported modders because it directly added value to their games and gave them a marketing boost, which completely contradicts what that moronic anon claim. I can't count the amount of Skyrim mod videos that blew up right after Skyrim released, and this slack jawed retard wants to claim "It's bad marketing and it dilutes your consumerbase"? Give me a fucking break, how can you be this fucking stupid?

>It's impossible to factually account how many games were sold due to people wanting to use mods.
But it's possible to "factually account" for a unknown plan to profit from mods using a system that literally didn't exist until 20 years later? Come the fuck on, no one is this dense.

>>380530192
>>what is fair use
A spook

>>380496365
This is why you should thank Todd for paid mods! Soon Take Two will adopt the Bethesda policy and Open will be back!

>>380530273
So according to you're expert opinion all mods are inherently illegal

Holy fuck, the corporate dick sucking on /v/ is real.

>>380530359
>+1 Red Shark!

>>380530413
its just one autist with the corporate dick so far up his mouth

>>380530361
Duh. Why do you think whenever a mod creator gets C&D'd they have to back the fuck down? They can't win in court, everyone knows it.

>>380530273
>he thinks modding falls under theft
Retard.

>>380525248
That's a Russian literally who against an English speaking lawyer, what do you think?

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>>380529839
>NO U

You don't know what sensible property rights are shit for brains. You're just a fucking imbecile who thinks IP law is for actual property rights and modding is theft.

Take your le epic argument man meme and go back to /pol/ kiddo.

>>380496365
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>>380530802
>Literal REEEEEEEEEEEE

Doesn't matter, you can scream and cry as much as you want we both know that devs have as much power as the courts give them to enforce property rights and rightfully so.

>>380530802
Send the faggot back to re:ddit

>>380530659
They can't win in court because they're fighting a multi-million dollar corporation that is the publisher for the game, notice its never developers of the game issuing C&D.

And dont forget Rockstar devs themselves have praised modders, have helped modders in the past, have posted videos on Social Club of mods in use.

It's the publishers, Take-Two, et al. that are responsible for overreacting and immediately shutting down modders who they feel are cutting into their greedy microtransaction profits, you really know fucking nothing, just give up you can't save face anymore, you lost the argument, yet you continue to shill for a faceless corporation like they give a fuck that some autist on a taiwanese sewing forum is defending their greedy, unjust actions.

>>380530659
>they can't win in court because mods are illegal, has nothing to do with the legal resources of a mod creator against a multi-billion dollar corporation's legal team

Yeah that makes sense

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>>380496942
*sigh*

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>>380529839
>You and I can shoot the shit all we want, but I've already won,
An argument is not something to be won or lost. An argument should be two sides coming together to find a single unifying truth. If you're arguing to "win", you're not thinking rationally, you're just trying to beat someone else down.

People like you are why /v/ is so shitty these days. Because you're not actually interested in rationally discussing anything. You're either spouting memes and shitposting, or doing what you're doing right now which is looking to carve notches into your "internet arguments won" belt.

I hate you.

>>380530943
>enforce property rights and rightfully so.
You are autistic as fuck dude.

>>380530943
Cuck

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>>380530943
>REEEEEEE THE DEVS HAVE THE POWER TO ENFORCE PROPRIETY RIGHTS RIGHTFULLY BECAUSE MODDING IS STEALING

Take 2 aren't devs and you're literally here screaming and crying over property rights on a Cantonese image sharing forum. Get a grip kid.

>>380530995
>They can't win in court because they're fighting a multi-million dollar corporation that is the publisher for the game, notice its never developers of the game issuing C&D.
Not how the legal system works dumbfuck, or do class action lawsuits never succeed now? If they had any legal basis to stand on they would be able to fight it. But they don't, so they won't. Pick a law book kiddo.
>>380531120
>An argument is not something to be won or lost. An argument should be two sides coming together to find a single unifying truth.
90% of arguments don't end this way and you know it. There are too many kids here who think the law is what they think it should be instead of what it actually is. Until they grow up there won't be any reconciliation here.

>>380531610
>he's STILL shilling for a faceless company

keep sucking that corporate dick brown-noser

>>380531610
>or do class action lawsuits never succeed now
>50+ people pooling their resources to pay the lawyer
>same as a guy and his cat pooling his resources to pay the lawyer
You aren't very bright are you?

>>380496942
Smelly dumb IP-fellating scum.

>>380502687

It's because of Online that we never got any single-player DLC for GTA V, like what GTA IV got. I won't be surprised if RDR 2's online mode fucks over the single-player in that game as well.

>>380524276

Agreed. If it was really an official cease-and-desist letter, I don't think it would have any grammatical and/or spelling errors.

Libertarianism is just corporate cock sucking, join the pirate party. They're on your side.

>>380502687
This, they should have left it to the modders

Fucking microtransactions, fucking

>>380532013
>pirate party
>let's import immigrants and jail people for hate speech

No fuck no! I'll take the corporations, at least they have cyberpunk

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Anyone else cracked GTAV stop working when this news came out

>>380524975
OpenIV team is in Russia though, FiveM were in the US.

>>380532162
Which one are you talking about, there's multiple ones.

>>380496365
Does cold fatigue units?

How do nations that are not immune to cold deal with cold scales?

>>380532415
All of them have been co-opted by the screeching hordes

>>380532641
Surely not all of them, the pirates are the only ones who don't want you to go to jail for warez.

>>380531610
>Not how the legal system works dumbfuck
Says someone who has no clue how the legal system works and believes modding a game is theft

>There are too many kids here who think the law is what they think it should be instead of what it actually is
Oh the irony.

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Do modders ever get tired of getting BTFO?

>>380496942
i have no clue how alt righter /pol/ retards managed toi take over /v/ when these fuckers don't even like games and think gaming and pretty much any hobby that isn't reading books are "degenerate", in fact drumpf has been proven to tweet about how much he hates games.

>>380531610
>If they had any legal basis to stand on they would be able to fight it.

Do you think hiring a lawyer is free?

>Pick a law book kiddo.

My guess is you haven't read a single law book, and your idea of economics and intellectual property is based on "common sense".

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>>380502687
>>380503196
>>380531964
>>380532153
This should be a red flag for all of you

>>380533352
They like to raid and be insufferable in as many places as possible.

Basically /b/ but with a political bent.

>>380533432
>sheriff bucks

>>380533236
Do you ever get tired of being a complete tool?

>>380533352
Ironically /pol/ faggots hate video games.

>>380533493
>Basically /b/ but with a political bent

>>>>>>>tumblr

>>380531610
>Not how the legal system works dumbfuck, or do class action lawsuits never succeed now
Class action law suits are for plaintiffs, not for defense or arguing fair use. You literally do not understand how the court works.

>>380534054
If you don't like eternal shitposting about fucking politics you're from tumblr? Unironically fucking kill yourself. You've killed this fucking site.

>>380534437
This place was always /pol/, politics was always on 4chan. You're a cuck.

>>380534637
It really fucking wasn't. Especially not in its current insufferable form. I mean fuck, one of the best times for this site was the dead zone when /new/ was dead and /pol/ hadn't been invented yet.

>>380496365
Can't they just open source the shit if they are abandoning development anyway?

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>>380496365
For what fucking purpose

>>380534798
And then the big bad boogyman (or boogywoman, w/e) had to come on out and literally ruin it for all of us?

>>380533432
Reading through press-released or interviews nowadays no longer excites me. Every time they say something "positive", it always sounds so fucking ominous.

>>380535848
Basically yes. Rebbit took on /pol/ as the new /b/ and ruined the entire Internet forever

t. Loved /pol/ from 2012-2014

>>380535253
Softening the blow

They want to enforce this policy Draconian style when RDR2 comes out, and rather than enforce the policy when the game starts being advertised, they get it out of the way now in the hopes that everyone they made mad about it will just forget or become obscure by the time RDR2 starts getting proper advertising.

It's a business strategy that's pretty scummy

>>380536173
It was sad really. /pol/ was actually funny for a year or two after it was made. I just remember posting there and thinking "this place is going to get really bad some day". I never expected it to be as bad as it is though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEYGhks8CRk

>>380536364
>clearly doesn't remember /new/

>>380536516
I do. That's why I knew /pol/ would get shit eventually.

>>380518218
>sperging out in response to common hyperbole

>>380536719
yes just the person we want dictating the course of their developers actions

I smell a new Kottick, a new Activision