He has a point, you know.

so did he get a ladder or something to write all that shit above his door

>look guys I'm working so hard

>>380484527
He has a point if he only finished the game,which he didnt

Is it still being made or did they give up completely?

Also fuck that numale

>>380484527
The point being not to give money to worthless cucks?

>>380484527
do they make these people in factories somewhere?

>>380484527
>What? People threw money at me when I promised them shit and now they have tha gall to demand that I deliver?

>>380484527
fuck that leecher

>>380485504
It's the hipster look. That way everybody can see how unique and different you are.

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>>380484527
If you can handle the heat, stay out of the fucking kitchen. Don't whine and bitch about how life is so hard for you now that people game you their money so that you can now create what they and, most of all, YOU wanted to make. It might be stressful but you already signed up for that shit, so handle it. Buu-fucking-hoo.

>>380487290
Can't*
gave*
sorry

>>380487290
Can you stop acting like you're tough shit online, you come across as more faggotiy than the OP's pic

>Why should i work do hard after being given so much money?
>I'm gonna sit and complain about my workload and how I'm not going to work on this harder or how I'm not going to hire people to work to make it easier for me.

>>380484527
Does he still work on the game?

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>>380487878
I'm not acting tough at all. I'm not tough. Never been never will be. But I'm gonna say what's on my mind and stuff like this makes me annoyed and somewhat pissed of. You're free to disagree but at least give me a reason why I'm wrong.

>>380484527
>Writing on walls
Totally sane invidual

>>380488819
Samefagging here. If you can't handle stress, don't put yourself in a stressful situation and then blame others who legit wanted to help you create something. It's unprofessional as fuck. If you're stressed out, deal with it in a professional way and don't bitch on others. There are good and bad ways of handling this kind of situation.

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>>380487878
He isnt wrong and has a valid point.

LINK THE RANT FAGGOT

>>380484527
>It's stressful that people have expectations after giving me money

Maybe you just don't have what it takes to be a functioning adult in the real world if this catches you off guard. No wonder millennials vote for socialists like Bernie.

>ask for money to finish game
>be given the money
>"i didnt ask for this stress!!"

This is what happens when you turn customers into shareholders. Perhaps you should have AN ACTUAL PLAYABLE DEMO OF YOUR GAME BEFORE YOU RUN IT ON KICKSTARTER.

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>kickstarter games


I've learned not to trust crowd funded games anymore.

The only ones I actually liked are FTL and Skullgirls.


I really wanted to like Pillars of Eternity but I just got annoyed with a lot of NPCs I meet turning out to be some kickstarter backer's story thing which I didn't give a fuck about. Wasteland 2 was ok but I wasn't that impressed by it.

My heart bleeds for this man. He's being bullied by people who gave him money to work on a game. They have no right to expect him to actually finish anything and its anti-developer to expect him to do as he was paid.

>>380484527

>once people gave me their money, suddenly for some strange unfair reason they started acting like I OWED them something

This about sum it up?

>>380484527
That his whore mouth wrote checks his ass couldn't cash? Then yeah.

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nu-male cucks gonna nu-male cuck

>get free money
>complain

current state of the society

What are some games worth playing that were funded by kickstarter campaigns?

>im angry that i asked for money and people gave it to me

kys

>still falling for jewstarter and such
You faggots only have yourself to blame.

post the ost already.

>>380491975
FTL
dankest dungeon

>>380490482
>People got so mad at the idea of Obsidian adding an option to remove backer content so that people wouldn't have to see someone's transexual gay OC that Obsidian had to end up hardcoding it in

It really is a shame.

>>380491975

FTL

I still play it from time to time to this day.

I've never donated to Kickstarter. Do you even get anything out of it? Are you investing in their company or just giving them money?

Being an Indy Dev you have to compete with web comic authors for title of unstable, egotistical fucknozzle.

>publisher finances a game
>WHAT THE FUCK? GREEDY PUBLISHER KIKES! WHY DIDN'T THEY GIVE THEM MORE TIME AND MONEY? THEN THE GAME WOULD HAVE BEEN PERFECT! EVERYONE KNOWS DEVS CAN DO NO WRONG AS LONG AS YOU KEEP THROWING MONEY AT THEM!
>/v/ finances a game
>FUCKING LAZY ASS DEVELOPER! WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T THEY GIVE ME EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED FIVE MINUTES AFTER THEY WERE FINANCED! DEVELOPERS ARE FUCKING USELESS GREEDY KIKES!

>>380493154
>dumb useless post:the post

>>380493154
But anon, we have reasonable and rational demands that would end up improving the game's quality and the customer experience, while the publisher's motive is just to milk everyone dry without giving a shit about the game or the customers.

I unironically believe it.

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>>380484781
Such a tormented mind.

Sounds like another person walks the path of YandareDev.

>>380493479
>while the publisher's motive is just to milk everyone dry without giving a shit about the game or the customers

Are you retarded? The only way a publisher makes money is to make a game people want to buy.

>>380493764
>game people want to buy=/= good game
Publishers can make a pretty, marketable, trendy turd and be successful though.

>>380494012
>your taste != objective fact

>>380484781
it's a millennial thing, Sam Hyde does it too

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>>380484527
This fucker in my eyes is just complaining even after getting money. Which is pretty annoying I think to those that could actually use the money and wouldn't be a bitch about it.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139542651/bokube

My kickstarter is struggling even with a low goal but the amount of backers already messaging me up the wall makes me happy and feel a sense of responsibility to wprk hard on the game.

He reminds of developers that get butt blasted from internet comments.

>get $300 000 to make shitty RPGmaker game
>use all the money on booze, hookers and hair implants
>no game
>WTFF BEING AN INDIE DEV IS SO HARD REEE

>>380494012
People always buy good games. Different people just have different view of what is good.

>>380493132
Often times, depending on the amount you donate you are promised a physical or digital copy of the game. The drawbacks are that they can just take your money and aren't really under any obligation to deliver or refund it.

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>writing on walls

For what fucking purpose

>>380484527
typical white man.

>>380495038
He's just so free thinking, thoughts any time!

>>380493132
no, you just get the game
if you donate more you may get some dlc items or a possible physical reward like a t-shirt
for the 10k+ donations you may get to meet the devs once

>>380494957
Chances are nobody will buy your shitty game if you don't deliver other than the sorry retards who funded it and you will forever be branded as a conartist backing out on an agreement. Do you really think future employers don't look at your online accounts if you're dumb enough to use your real name?

>>380484527
Isn't that the guy who kickstarted a shitty dreamcast RPG with atrocious music?

>>380495038
Writing on a piece of paper or on a computer just ISN'T THE SAME! WHEN WILL YOU PEOPLE LEARN!?!?!

>>380495249
>racebaiting /pol/tard
Apply yourself.

>>380495426
Don't forget he's developing it for Ouya too. From the footage we've already seen even 2000-2003 era RPG maker games were far superior to this.

>>380494713
Out of curiosity, have you ever played Nintaii?

>>380494725
>vampire masquaredes in the distance

>>380495341
Depends on what kind of job or where you want to work. How much time, effort, and money do you think your employer spent to see if you ever started a Kickstarter under your real name and if you followed through?

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>>380494725
>People always buy good games.

>>380494115
>>380494725
no mans sky

>>380491975
Shovel Knight
The rest of these developers lack the discipline to work hard, and that's why they'll never get into the industry.

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>>380494725
Somebody's really not spent enough time around videogames.

>>380496216
>lack the discipline to work hard

thats 90% of people born past 1990

i know because im one of them

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>>380495881
No but I have seen cool math games when I was a little kid, but Bokube is mostly inspired by captain toad and sokoban.

You rotate the camera around diarama levels, but Boku's movement system is cube sokoban tier, and instead of finding 3 diamonds in a level like captain toad you find 4 puzzle cubes to push to their colored goals.

>>380484527
>He has a point, you know.
>Elysian Shadow faggot
No he has not, he's been developing his garbage for a decade or so by now, while hyping it as the definitive 2D RPG experience when the game looks, sounds and plays worse than a RPG Maker 2003 game while having a budget higher than most actually good indies out there.
Fuck that asshole, he gives all decent indie devs a terrible name.

Elysian Shadows when

>>380496048
2 seconds in google with just his name and a Youtube video pops up called "Falco Girgis snorting cocaine" and "Falco Girgis meltdown". He's also on LikedIn which is where most employers/HR look first, especially when you've entered very specific skills in your CV. True, you won't get tracked down OTI for a Walmart job. For a software development or engineering job more so.

>>380491975
Shadowrun, more to the point it's stand alone xpacs.
That same devs are doing Battletech too, which has had a good beta so far.

>>380496776
Fug, that looks quite nice, I wish I had some money to give to you man, but still, hope you will have success with it!

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That's all this useless cunt does his entire life is say "fuck you" and give the finger to people who give him money. He should make an indie game revolved around that. I hope someone kills this son of a bitch. The world would be a lot better off.

Don't know anything about this faggot but I'm gonna guess it went something like
>ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO GAVE ME FREE MONEY ARE ACTUALLY DEMANDING SOME SORT OF PRODUCT OVER 6 MONTHS PASSED THE PROMISED DATE, FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU, YOU UNGRATEFUL LITTLE ENTITLED TURDS

>>380496992
Speaking of which, are they going to continue with Shadowrun?

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>>380491975
Huniepop

You can grab it on sale for $5.

>>380484781
So milennials are literally toddlers that still scribble on the wall?

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If he's complaining then he should just run. Many people have gotten away with breaking promises. The whole point of KS is to scam idiots.

>>380497123
meant
>>380496968
Tired as fuck right now, shouldn't have donated some blood.

>>380484527
POST LINK FAGGOT

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>>380491975
An old one but still good is skull girls if you like fighters

>Working for yourself is hard
Wew lad

>>380491870
>take metrosexual
>add beard
was there ever a time when the ideal man didn't wear mascara and concealer?

>>380491975
Shovel Knight, Freedom Planet, Spark the Electric Jester

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>>380491975
Expeditions: Conquistador

>>380497247
Wouldn't know.
Pretty sure they're full down on Battletech at the moment, no way to know if they'll make more Shadowrun stuff.

>>380497175
>a shitty match three game is worth playing because it has a crappy dating sim component and cartoon tits

And this is the place that likes to declare it's everyone else that has shitty taste in games...

>>380497390
Believe it or not, a majority of people in the world have no self discipline

>>380497530
That's actually pretty shit.

>>380497390
>Working for yourself *with a guarenteed salary is hard

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>>380484527
>promise to do thing if people give you money
>get money
>Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow, why do these entitled fucks demand that I make thing?
Fuck off with your old ass bait

>>380491975
FTL
Expeditions: Conquistador
Darkest Dungeons
Shadowrun: Dragonfall and Hong Kong
Darkest Dungeon

>>380497390
i know you would probably not believe it because the grass is always greener or whatever, but if you're actually passionate about what you do and you're self-employed then yes it is hard. work is never officially "over" for the day or the week when you're self-employed and thus people in that situation are prone to overworking. also when you're passionate, just doing an okay job isn't enough; you need to make everything as good as possible or it isn't enough.

this guy just seems like an irresponsible and impulsive guy, but don't think that being self-employed is just like a regular job except you don't have a boss.

Stress is great when you're working for a monthly wage. The wage keeps you working.
If someone paid me a full 2-year wage up-front, you better believe I wouldn't be anywhere near as productive and would refuse to be stressed.
The whole idea of kickstarter is stupid because it isn't used as a "starter", it's used a full paycheck.

>>380491975
Hollow Knight

>>380487878
If you think that is acting tough then you must be a real pussy

>>380498732

Not everyone is as irresponsible as you are.

If I have $100,000 for the next year I budget that money to last for that year. I don't just spend it in a week, future be damned.

So now they get money on nothing but a promise AND they get to play the victim?

yeaaah, im not falling for that. you get your game kickstarted and you make the fucking game. maybe post a tweet or two about what you have done with it thus far from time to time so people dont get complacent. is it really that stressful that you have to start beating away backers wondering where the game is and going on wild internet rants? how about try spending that time making your fucking game.

Furthermore, what in the world possesses people to back anything on kickstarter. At this point I just assume if its kickstarter that it sucks / will never come out / is being done by some batshit crazy dev (See: Phil fish, that one guy who started burning his comics, this dude.

>>380499397
You would budget I'm sure, so would I. You wouldn't work as hard though, I'll bet.

>>380500145

I'm one of those silly people who takes pride in their work. It's not enough for me to just get it done, I want it done well.

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>>380484527
PSA

KICKSTARTER=pre order culture

Thank you have a nice day.

>>380484527
>stress
Like half the time he's spent after the game got kickstarted was just wine tasting with his buddies.

>>380497390
working for yourself is actually incredibly hard.

But with that being said I dont know why you'd start a kickstarter for a video game if you havent already finished the bulk of it. Like if you need the money to hire a website admin or something because you're too busy bugfixing, or money for marketing, or to get servers off the ground, or something like that, I'd totally get.

Just going on kickstarter with an idea or early development-staged product seems like a recipe for failure

>>380484781
It's some trendy millennial shit. I find myself scribbling ideas, notes and drawings on any paper I can find and always tell myself I'll come around to digitalizing it, but I hardly do and end up with a stack of semi legible scrap papers all over my desk. But I would never write on my walls aside from mounting a dry erase board on the wall.

>>380501084
although I just looked it up and this shit is 2 years old, the rant isn't even on youtube anymore

>>380500783
>KICKSTARTER=pre order culture
no it's not
when you preorder a game, you'll actually get the game
you can also cancel your preorder and get your money back
with kickstarter there's a 90% chance the game will never be made and the devs just run off with the money

>>380497196
From the reflection of the light it looks like he has one of those walls that's pretty much a whiteboard, a lot of start up offices in cali probably have them cause they're trendy.

>>380501537
>you'll actually get the game
Tell that to all the people who preordered Scalebound nigger bitch newfag Trump voting kike cuckmiestro to the max redditor wimp.

>>380497418
The time before mascara and concealer were invented

>>380490645
I suppose, creativity is something that is hard to rush even with money. People can't always expect quality out of something rushed, this shit takes time. He's still being too much of a whiny bitch though.

>>380491975
Broken Sword 5

>>380490482
>I've learned not to trust crowd funded games anymore.

It rewards hype vs. an actual good plan.

MN9 and Bloodstained were made with good intentions, but they had no actual plan, just a lot of hype, so it turns out they've had development issues. Unreal and Inti-Creates were bad ideas.

>>380501084
Yeah, finish the bulk of it before going public. I myself have been working on an accurate digital model of a city that I intend to use for architectural projects but also potentially for vidya and I've been working on it for years now as I only throw a few hours a week at it as I'm a wageslave.

>>380490482
The only game I helped fund was Shantae.
It was from a company with a proven track record of making Shantae games.
I funded it expecting a Shantae game
I got a Shantae game

Shit seems simple enough.

>>380484527
>Elysian Shadows is being developed for the Sega Dreamcast, as well as the Ouya, iOS, Android, Windows, OS X, and Linux platforms
>Dreamcast
y tho?

>>380503028
Dreamcast surprises you but OUYA doesn't?

>>380503592

Ouya is just Android.

>>380501178

Want a good protip? If it's a good idea, you'll remember it. If it's shit, you won't.

>>380484781
I just get a notepad. Not the app. An actual physical notepad. It's pretty sweet.

>>380504114

If it's one idea, sure you'll remember it. If it's a hundred ideas you'll forget most of them.

There will often be weeks, even months, between having an idea and actually implementing it.

>>380494713
>>380496776
Get the fuck out you shill

>>380502232
>Unreal was a bad idea
Yeah, who would want to use a powerful, cheap engine with tons of free assets and assloads of support?

Just asking for trouble.

Dumbass.

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War never changes /v/

>>380484527
>please give me money
>please listen to all my problems as a result of you giving me money
Not really.

>>380491975
Grim Dawn

feels like Titan Quest

(I only like titan quest slightly more because of the theme/setting)

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>>380505418
>Dumbass.

You're the dumbass. You can't just plop down a new engine to a group of people and expect them to make use of it. Even if they're programmers. They need training in it and know how to use it. MN9 and Bloodstained was inti-Creates bumbling around endlessly with an engine they had no clue how to use.

Even Dico, part of the new team Iga hried are implying no one in Japan has any idea how to use this.

>>380492780
Is there even any mod to replace backer npcs with vanilla npcs or just get rid of them altogether? The majority are just awful. I tried to just ignore them while I play, but they really break my immersion everytime I see them. They typically have really shitty "RP" names that dont fit the flavor of the lore. Half of them seem to be godlikes when they are supposed to be an extremely rare race. They just stick out like a sore thumb. I tried killing them where I could but im losing masses of reputation in defiance bay from murdering them.

>>380484527
Serious question, if someone funded something like this, and pic related was the response, could they get their money back?

>>380484527
As someone who regularly does pretty Shitty freelance work over the internet as a form of income, he should be happy he gets fucking paid This Much at all.

>>380506137

If it's outright fraud then it's a crime and the police will become involved so there's a chance they may recover their money via seized assets. Otherwise they can sue. Kickstarter will not help them get a refund.

>>380506707
The the people that back these projects have literally no guarantee the project will finish, but they'll STILL fund it anyways?

Jesus I don't know who deserves it worse.

>>380506908

Welcome to the world of investment. There are no guarantees.

It's funny, you would think after kickstarter and crowdfunding in general people would be a little more understanding of shit like publishers being "tightasses", banks denying loans, etc., etc. but no, nobody has learned a fucking thing.

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>>380505476
War has changed

>>380507597

Learn to use integer scaling you useless nigger.

>>380506908
which is why I've only ever put money into 1 kickstarter and that was like $20 for Armikrog

>>380484527
>99% of kickstarters are trash
Agony/Bloodstain are the only things i've cared about coming out kickstarter and i didn't give them a fucking dime but if they were still in fetal states i might've.

If its some fucking faggot who shows nothing worthwhile and says "im making the successor/a game inspired by x" i wouldn't give them the shit from the edges of my toilet bowl.

>>380505858
>Y-you're the d-dumbass!
>Y-you can't just put people in front of an engine without t-telling them how to use it!
Oh yes, well, in that case, let's take those same uneducated people and make them build everything in C++. That will be so much easier for them, except then they have no assets, physics, lighting, rendering engines, support, tutorials, or anything else to help them on their way that they have with Unreal.

Dumbass.

>>380485504
There's a class for this apparently

>>380491943
Well it's not free. Its with the expectation of delivering a product

>>380507260
Investors have the option to sell their stock and make a return on it.

Backers just have... a digital cocksuck to look forward to.

>take money to do something
>don't do it and scream at the people who gave you money for wanting a finished product
Is there something I'm missing here? Are all these 30 something manchildren just using Kickstarter as a way to get an income without having to work at McDonald's like they deserve to? Where are the project leaders writing up schedules and shit?

>>380507717
Watching a 12 year old explain how on youtube right now good sir

>>380490482
Tides of Numenera is a great kickstarter game, though I didn't help financially at all

>>380491975
Undertale

>>380488810
Change
>Does he still..
to
>Did he ever..

His dev diaries are full of parties, picking up women and fucking zoe quinn.

Let's say I have a project, maybe a board game or similar, that I want to kickstart. How would I go about shilling it? Online-only games are much easier as you can make a demo and post it around, but that wouldn't work for a physical-only item.

>>380509232
board games have a serious millennial following. They're not problematic like video games and they don't require actual effort like sports. I see a ton of them being kickstarted.

>>380509465
>millennial
Can You Guys Stop With This Label? I Find It Unnecessary. Thank You.

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>>380510047
I'm sure you're doing this ironically, but why do people feel the need to capitalise the first letter of every word in a sentence? It makes them look retarded.

>>380509465
That's very good to know. Thank you.

>>380510047
You know exactly what he means.

>>380487878
>Posting an opinion is now "acting tough"


wew lad. We got a badass over here

>>380506084
No, the most anyone was able to do was change their names to not be retarded immersion breaking shit and remove their dialogue

Doesn't change the fact that that are a bunch of useless godlike npcs standing everywhere though

>>380507260
It's less an investment and more crowd-sourced financing for an idea. Almost like a kickstarter type thing. Autistic manchildren using their minimum wage paychecks to donate $500 to some schmuck for him to put their name and likeness into a SFM bestiality visual novel isn't investing, it's financing.

>>380484781
he's a big guy

>>380484527
>talking about 2015 phenomenon in 2017
Geee, are you stucked in your stupid timeline? Next thing is you want remind us on sarkasian

>>380505476
yeah sorry not reading that or even attempting

Don't accept hundreds of thousands of dollars from people if you can't deliver your product you fucking hack.
You shouldn't go on kickstarter if you're only an ideas guy or if you only know half of what you want to do and actually how to fucking do it. It should only be used to fully realize someones potential rather than allowing them to deliver nothing or half ass something.

>>380491870
>Get people to give you their money in exchange for a game
>Dont make the game, just bitch about the people who paid you
I think he is the one doing the cucking desu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3JuZvrNMKk

This is pure fucking kino, /v/. You're a faggot with shit taste if you think otherwise.

>>380484527
>and even dreamcast

...what?

>>380484527
that kick starter is for idiots most of the time?

>>380491975
Shovel Knight
FTL
Darkest Dungeon
Hyper Light Drifter

>>380510047
Are you of the chocolate persuasion? Because you type like a nigger.