Physics-based webswinging

>>380480830
It actually looks pretty nice. The only spiderman game I played was ultimate not a fan of comics games but this might bring me back

I hope the buildings are scaled well. I want to jump off the tallest one and swing away at the last second.

>>380480830
Amazing Spiderman 2 on PS3 already had that.

>>380482481
But it was made by hacks

Press "x" to cool

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>hear this
>check the footage
>looks ok at first
>crafty ways to eliminate enemies
>zipping from rail to rail
>then a cutscene
>then action
>then a cutscene
>then action
>then a cutscene
>then arkham combat with babby bayonetta slowmo added on dodges
>then a cutscene
>then QTE
>then webslinging
>then QTE
>and more QTE
>then a cutscene
>then an EPIC QTE
>and then a cutscene

I really don't know how you can defend this. The webslinging looks good, as does Parker reacting to his environment while in motion, but it's a worse action game than the first two movie games, and those were pretty low bar already.

>>380482791
It's literally just an Arkham clone just like this game. For all intents and purposes this is basically Amazing Spiderman 3 since it looked extremely similar, just on updated next-gen engine obviously.

>>380483463
>Parker

Didn't they confirm it was Miles the faggot?

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>>380480830
>Arkham clone
>QTEs
>fucking Yuri Lowenthal again
>vastly underpowered Spiderman
>based on ANAD Marvel
>teasing Miles Morales
It's going to suck. Screencap this.

>>380483646
No, Miles is in the game but you don't play as him. At least not in the demo.

>>380483646
The chink kills Parker at the end of the trailer and then you play as Miles.

>>380483871
>Arkham clone
>>QTEs
Its ok when Spider-Man 2 does this

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Spiderman does not need a fucking Predator mode
He's fucking Spiderman. His Spider Sense literally warns him of any imminent gunfire and his webs can immediately disarm thugs or block the weapon barrels

I get that there might need to be stealth sections, I really do. But he doesn't need a fucking Predator encounter for every confrontation with armed henchmen

Fuck's sake

>>380483463
By being smart enough to now this was a gameplay trailer and it was meant to be scripted, and that raw moment to moment gameplay will be like the action and webslinging moments.
While qte and cutscenes will be limited to huge plot moments.

Basically, we're not retarded like you.

>>380480830
Is there anybody that truly unironically likes moon-swinging?

>>380484276
every time you use it they should have bruce campbell chastise you for using it

>>380484575
I don't hate it, if that suffices

>>380483646

It's possible, since Miles is the current "street" Spiderman.

Peter Park is currently Iron Man plus Fantastic Four in that he's a wealthy playboy tech genius in the Baxter Building who screws up all of the time.

Miles was also run by SHIELD in the past like the one in the trailer had an operator on the phone.

Honestly, I would rather have an Ultimate Spiderman game that's open world, not this.

>>380484770
Do you prefer it though? I should have said that.

>>380484237
>Spiderman 2
>Arkham gameplay
I want cited examples and links to video evidence or your argument is invalid

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>>380480830
>QTE's
That's all I needed to hear

>>380484237
Because it was 13 years ago. You're telling me its been over a decade and western developers STILL can't make a good action game? Arkham is the closest they get and even that isnt saying much

>>380484491
No fuck you dude, Arkham had this issue solved for it's big story moments by not bogging you down with 20 second cutscenes every time you beat up a group of five guys DURING plot moments by relegating most of the talking done over the codec, it doesnt pull the player out of the action until there is a big cutscene worth having.

It's just bad design, anon, and because you won't encounter it on the street level fighting basic thugs doesnt mean you should still defend it.

>>380484815
What? What the fuck is going on in Marvel's current storylines jesus

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>>380485182

1. Marvel changes everything every summer because NOTHING WILL BE THE SAME.

2. Dan Slott, the current writer, is literally gay for Spiderman and refuses to leave the book. Also, Doc Ock but that's weirder.

3. Angry fans sold more books.

>>380484915
No definitely not. I actually thought the web swinging in Web of Shadows was really good.

I like the acrobatics animations between swings more than the actual swinging, if that makes sense.

It still lacks the momentum from 2, but at this point, no one's gonna be able to reach 2, so might as well give up.

This is as good as it gets, shamefully.

>>380483463
>First two movie games
Being an oldfag, I can't tell if you're talking about the old PS2 ones or the newer Amazing Spiderman ones from PS3.

>>380483463
Obviously they were going to include a bunch of Cinematic Action™ because E3 is more about generating hype than actually showing off gameplay. One or two of the QTEs during the helicopter chase don't seem particularly workable given that they can't really keep you on-rails to encounter them

The actual gameplay I have mixed feelings about. The feel of it seems great - both movement & combat are fast & fluid. But the 'predator' gameplay seems unbelievably easy compared with the Arkham series they unashamedly ripped it from: enemies don't seem to react to you at all & half of the guys didn't get knocked out yet didn't even scream for help. Combat seemed like it at least required you to use more than one button & the environment interaction was cool but I'm not sure if it might get old quickly like so many 'Arkham + one gimmick' combat systems

>>380485948
>movies released in 2002 and 2004
>oldfag

Is this bait?

>>380486407
4chan didn't even exist in 2002 anon, the only bait here is you.

>>380483463
almost best presentation I've seen in any game so far, and they already said that "Spiderman QTEs "meant to punctuate blockbuster moments rather than define whole sections of the game."

>>380486464
Im saying you dont need to be an oldfag to know which two movies I am obviously referring to you tryhard piece of shit.

>>380485017
Go play it you idiot

>>380486614
Your post never mentioned the years of the movies you cockmuncher. You could've been referring to either the old movies or the new Amazing spiderman ones. Choke on a bag of dicks.

>>380486629
Spiderman 2 had Arkham gameplay? Wasn't arkham like groundbreaking with its combat?

>>380486783
He did say first two, implying that he's not talking about the second two.

>>380485728
Would you prefer a cutscene instead?

>>380486913
There's TWO diferent fucking series, he could be talking about first two from original series or first two from new series, how hard is it to grasp that?

>>380484491
>all these qte's will be confined to the main story missions only!

>>380486783
>first two movie games

as opposed to the second two movie games you illiterate

>>380480830
Bunch of lies, compare their "Physics-based webswinging":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wopRqOxgNfI

with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb8ZhKgieTw

Notice how the new SM swinging is so slow, floaty and completely lacking any momentum, it's pretty much the same as it was in TASM2. Spider-Man 2 was truly ahead of its time.

>>380487064
But I understood what he was saying just fine. I'm not having difficulty grasping it

>>380487308
>3min gameplay video
>gameplay starts at 1min
>gameoplay ends at 1min53secs

for fucksakes

also
>web to building on the right
>take 90 degree left turn

>>380486784
It had the same rhythm based combat

>>380480830

Capcom's Bionic Commando from 2008ish had excellent swinging and air combat, and nobody on /v/ praises it. The physics were so good that in online matches, your cable could get tangled with another player's cable and would actually braid together.

Why /v/? Why did you all hate it?

>INB4 "muh arm wife"

>>380487308
PS2 Spiderman 2 makes all these modern games look like a joke.

>>380487775
1 word.
NIGGER

>>380487308
Are you fucking blind? just compare the scale of the buildings, in SM2 they are small as fuck plus the camera is way more zoomed out. It also had a "turbo" button that will probably be in the new game as an unlockable ability or some shit.

>dev confirms that webs attach to buildings

Whats the point if they attach if it makes no difference to the swinging? The reason people want it to attach is because of the change in gameplay it brings. Knowing that your web is on a building on the left means that your arc is going to carry you back to the left and therefore need to time your release if you wish to go in another direction. These devs seem to think the webs on buildings has been nothing more than an aesthetic issue this whole time and not a physics based one. It was never about seeing the actual web stuck to the corner of the building more than seeing the web shoot to the left and accommodating for that.

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>>380480830
>slow-mo all throughout combat which breaks the flow of combat and will get very tedious as the hours rack up
>a lot of scenarios and animation looks ripped straight from ASM2 unchanged despite this being a new dev
>QTE's and scripted actions everywhere, might as well just watch one of the films you'd have the same amount of control
>Miles

0/10 going back to the Dreamcast Spider-Man.

>>380488285
This thing IS basically ASM3, just under new dev.

>>380484072
Wait I'm missing something, who is Miles and why is he important?

>>380488065
This has to be bait, building size/height has nothing to do with the movement physics, speed and momentum.

>that will probably be in the new game as an unlockable ability or some shit
And now you're just making shit up and guessing the future.

What they showed so far is not impressive at all gameplay-wise, it pretty much is just a glorified Amazing Spider-Man 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8vvjOW1Nfc

>Ps1 spiderman
characters, story, missions and stealth

>Ultimate spiderman
style, characters, story, races

>SM2
web swinging, scale, tricks and moves

>ASM
sense of speed

>Web of Shadows
combat, combos


Before a dev signs up to a game it should be forced to spend a month reviewing all past iterations and looking at what worked and what didnt. everything needed to make the perfect spiderman game has already been done its just dispersed over almost 2 decades of games. A studio with this much time and money really shouldnt be fucking up what was done 10yrs ago by a single autist.

Combat, while very fluid, seems even easier than Batman's combat.
Need to see more actual gameplay rather than a heavily controlled section of the game.
What happens if you fail a QTE?
What happens if you catch the helicopter early or later than the offic building?
There's a lot of things that people should be asking.

>>380485659
while it was moon swinging i see where youre coming from and i would honestly take that over what the current gameplay showed so far. It was fun, acrobatic and fast

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>>380488583
Which I am so disappointed about. New dev could have been a revival for the series but instead they decided to just port ASM2, make it look better, then include Miles who we will actually be playing as for most of the game (you watch they're going to Raiden us) this is the one game I was really looking forward to for PS4 and now it's fucking nothing.

>>380488285
>slow-mo all throughout combat which breaks the flow of combat and will get very tedious as the hours rack up

Witch time.

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>>380488609
Token nigger for literally no other reason than to have a token nigger
He has absolutely no draw, unique characteristics, personality or backstory
Even /co/ hates him, along with Whor and the new teenage black Iron Woman

>>380488920
>Witch time.
Player-controlled mechanic.

>>380480830
There is literally not a single QTE part that could not be changed with a manual aiming way to fix, all that QTE was cheap in way to make something simpler and flashier for the PS4 average audience

>>380488915
Yeah I'm rather upset about this being just ASM3: More QTEs Edition featuring Nigger protag.
I'll just not play it or only play it once PS4 gets hacked so eh.

>>380488609
He's a kid who also got spider'd. Originally he took over when Peter Parker of a different universe died because he took a bullet for Captain America and had to fight the Sinister Six, while bleeding out. They brought Miles to the main universe, where Peter is still alive, so they both share the name Spider-Man.

>>380485182
Well Peter finally decided to take ten minutes to sell his inventions and became a billionaire. Now he's like Iron Man and even has other people running around in the suit for him

>>380486590
Id just prefer a cutscene desu. I never liked QTE shit, i feel like i cant enjoy the spectacle im supposed to enjoy when its pausing constantly to make me punch in a certain button. The whole scene would be so much smoother had it just been a cutscene that then transitions to gameplay. I blame people who think theyre actually in control of their character doing this ridiculous shit when they press one button every 2mins

>>380488920
Opinions about Bayo aside you know very well that works differently and you have complete control over it. In this it seems to trigger almost randomly.

>>380488915
I really like May's costume.

>that HUD

fucking iron man bullshit

>>380489162
I agree with this.
It makes no difference here because the player can't normally controller Spider-Man in the manner we see him do during the QTE, so I'd rather just watch it happen.
Otherwise they could have engineered the scene to have spider man running up the crane while "run n' gunning" webs from buildings to the crane. I think that could be player controlled, surely there's a mechanic for that already.

>>380488920
>comparing something that you can turn on to something that activates at every single fight and then does a big slow mo event at the end when you clear the room of the last bad guy

at the 10hr mark this is going to be torture

>>380489105
>where Peter is still alive, so they both share the name Spider-Man
This pisses me off so much, in-universe Miles got his powers while Peter was already Spider-Man for many years but oh no, Marvel's favorite minority character had to be like "yeah i'll call myself Spider-Man too!" and everyone rolls with it just like that? NuMarvel is a fucking joke.

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>>380489402
I like everything about May. Her universe truly is the best and it kills me that we'll never have a game about it.

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We're not going to see Best Girl
And if we do, she's going to be a villain

>>380489613
Amen. Just having the crane falling slowly and allow the oplayer to web swing over and under it to stop it would have been a simple compromise to include gameplay with a big set piece.

Just give me gameplay or give me cutscene just dont mix the fucking two and you end up having """"gameplay"""" while watching cutscenes you cant enjoy because youre practically playing guitar hero.

Cinematic games were a mistake

>qte-based swinging

>batman grappling hook icon on screen at all times

I knew that web rush bullshit from ASM would be here to stay. Fucking press r1 to parkour webzip instead of normal webzip.

Where are you ASM3 poster? you were fucking right

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Will we be able to date and have kinky web sex with waifus though?

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>>380491058
>expecting sex with MJ
>after One More Day

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>>380480830

Wasn't expecting so much QTEs, but I'm actually very satisfied with the combat so far. Apparently you can approach enemies by a number of ways be it stealthy or full maximum spider, and I also liked the interaction with objects in the scenery during fights.

I'm trust Insomniac on this.

>>380491284
>$1 has been deposited into your account

>>380491284
trusting*

>>380491058
The best way to present the Peter Parker struggle is to have the story branch based on the decisions Peter makes.
I.E. if Peter has to respond to something during a date, he has the option to ignore it and keep the date going, but it will have consequences later. If Peter leaves the date, obviously it will piss whats her face off.

>>380491395
Not a argument

Would rather have had Sucker Punch make this game.

What are they up to anyway?

>>380491284
>I also liked the interaction with objects in the scenery during fights
That was the only really good part about it so far. I'm super disappointed they just slapped regular ass SM2/Arkham combat on this. Hopefully the swinging's better than in the trailer, it's the only thing that could save it.

>>380491284
>2017
>having faith

IMPRESSIVE

>>380491598
Read the thread if you need reasons why I posted that. Only an absolute casual or a shill would type what you did. Which one are you?

>>380489068
>>380489247
>>380489643
How do YOU know it won't be controllable or that you can't disable it entirely? From what I've seen it seems to trigger heavily on dodges.

>>380491721
after infamous 2 i wouldve but after second son i kinda feel like we wouldve been fucked with them the same way as insomniac

>>380491862
I dont, just going off what we saw and thats a bunch of slow mo. Im hoping you can, it would be nice to watch all that fast shit happen in real time. Dont keep the faith though

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>>380491271
Who cares, Renew your Vows MJ is better anyway.

>>380492068
>The material is bio-enhanced
Christ. Comics are so fucking stupid.

>>380491764
Still no argument

>>380491764
The anon you quoted wasn't me, get out of your little bubble world you call "room".

>>380492267
isn't it great?

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>>380492068
She isn't in the proper continuity

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What spidey skins you want in?

>>380492267
She's deceiving her, MJ thinks it's just a cool suit and doesn't know it's actually an alien symbiote.

>>380492743
Why is MJ a superhero

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>>380492660

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>>380492846
Because their daughter has Peter's powers and MJ didn't want to stay at home washing dishes.

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>>380492881

>>380490389
Already ITT, scroll up. Said couple times already that this shit is literally just ASM3.

>>380493074
>their daughter

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>>380492660

What if Sucker Punch made this game instead?

>>380493323
You calling Peter a cuck or something?

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>>380493629
>normies don't know about when Norman Osborne cucked Spider-man with Gwen

>>380493110
>>380493110
youre the only cunt who sees this shit for what it is. Here i thought it would be ground up new spidey but its as if they only played the last released game assuming it was the peak spiderman and decided to build from there. fucking tragic.

I especially hate web rush due to how jarring it is when you use it. That transition from automatic computer controlled shit and back to player controlled where spiderman just stands there in mid air waiting for you to realise that the game has given you back control is terrible.

ASM3 until proven otherwise

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Anons saying Spiderman combat copied Bayo, and is bad >becuz QTEs

mfw Bayo was a QTE shitfest

Is it in the contract that when you get into bed with Sony you have to make muh cinumutic expurieunces with minimal player interaction?

Ignoring the From Software clause of course.

>>380493867
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>>380493867
No, it happened. Really.
If they actually put this in the game,
I would eternally kek and all would be forgiven

>>380493348
I should read Superior

>>380493867
>>380494084
>Gwen

And nothing of value was lost.

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>>380493867
>>380494084
Ah yes that happened because Gwen is canonically a slut but you have to understand that Peter/Mary Jane is the OTP that not even the devil could destroy.

>>380494006
>sony kicks down your door
>no gaems for e3
>tell you to make a cinematic experience

sounds like you dont have much of a choice

>>380489730
Niggers stealing, what else is new?

>>380488189
Developers have regressed to the point where they no longer even recognize why this is important. These aren't the sorts of things that are emphasized in game development these days.

>Marvel's always crying about no one liking their female heroes
>female Spideys are better characters than both Peter & Miles
>yet Marvel never pushes them like FemThor
I'd go as far to say literally every non-Peter/Miles Spidey is better, really

>>380494350
>b-but Mr. Sony I'm working on this really neat new gameplay mech-
>NO TIME. MAKE IT A CUTSCENE, THROW IN SOME QTES AND GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY OFFICE

Can someone ask on twitter to Insomniac if the game will have aerial combat or something similar to the combat system in Web of Shadows?

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>>380494325
>Peter/Mary Jane is the OTP
But that's just plain wrong

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>>380492660

>>380494619
I have your answer right here

>no

>>380494180
You really shouldn't. Seriously, Slott can't write for shit.

As somebody who doesn't read or really care about comics, can somebody please explain to me how Marvel justifies completely different people, like female spiderman or Miles as spiderman or whatever, having exactly the same powers as Peter Parker. Were they all just bitten by the same spider? Or was it different spiders and they have slightly different abilities?

>>380494458
if they cant get it right despite having had more time than any other spiderman game dev and probably twice as much money and manpower then its over. The issue is the devs and until game sales start tanking they will never realise it

>>380494841
SpOck did have his moments

>>380494609
>this crane scene where its falling and you had the player webswing around it and hold his web as he lands to a building to slow it down? cut it out, make it a qte

That whole scene could have been a great chance to showcase the webswinging while also making a big """cinematic""" scene actually playable with gameplay that is core to the whole game.

>>380494619
there was a bit where he hit a dude into the air and off a building but then jumps up and webs him back for more punches. It isnt much but its the only thing im holding onto right now to indicate that combat can be more than punch and dodge

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>>380492881
over 9000 hours in ms paint

>>380495094
The webslinging doesn't look to be very good anyway.

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>>380494895
different universe where spider man dies and spiderwoman has been around for years

>>380481580
THIS

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17 years later and it's still the best superhero game

>>380493962
I'm pretty sure they didn't just "only play last game and build from there", I'm very much convinced they were handed over the source code and so on from the previous team to continue the franchise because that's how many publishers operate (when developer is let go, all their assets still belong to the publisher, in this case Sony who own the entire Spider Man brand).

This is just ASM3, featuring more cinematic shit and most likely bait and switch nigger protag.

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>>380492660

>>380494325
It was until a certain Kike decided marriage isn't allowed to be portrayed.

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>>380495650
thats not spider-man 2

>>380495650
>PS1 version
Why? PC and N64 are flat out better since they aren't marred by polygon warping.

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>>380495779
>Kaine
>Spider-man clone #24601 who isn't afraid to kill
>Made into a recurring character
I'm okay with this

>>380495779
i like him

>>380488737

>Ps1 spiderman
>good stealth

I mean, it only implies crawling on the ceiling.

>>380495650
It has the best Spider-man incarnation and lore (with a Venom that turns invisible no less), but it's ridiculously outmatched as a game.

>>380495319
yeah if it was good im sure they could have done that, that they chose the qte is damning in itself but also indicative of not much faith in player control

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remember that time spider-man he had a black kid

>>380496362
That's Hawkeye's kid with that chubby chocolate lady

>>380496291
>SPIDER-WUSS

>>380495751
Even bloody worse. Mandatory playing of previous games and scrapping of all previous source code if the game was shit should occur whenever a new dev appears. Goddammit

>>380496240
>spidersense goes off
>web zip up to roof
>guard appears around the corner
the bank robbery was 10/10

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>>380496527

>>380495650
Was my first Spidey game.
In fact to date I only played this, and the first two tie-in games to Sam Raimi's movies (both PC and PS2 versions of 2 because I was curious how bad the PC one is)

Any other Spiderman games worth playing?

>>380487308
The PS2 clip looks like the player already had the speed upgrades.

>physics based webswigning
what does this even mean? what we saw looked floaty and spiderman taking turns in directions away from his web anchor. what kind of physics is this

>>380496728
She was Pete's Grandkid or some shit though?

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>>380495650

That's honor belongs to Arkham City, despite /v/ best effort of trash such magnificent game.

>>380495094
Describe how could make that scene not a qte

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>>380496908
i think so thats what her wiki said

>>380497081
Thats not a game

On an unrelated note, does anyone know if spiderman 2 for the ps2 works on an emulator without help from NASA yet?

>>380496808

Rami's Spider-Man 1 and 2 games, obviously.

>>380497081
Hey look, it's the cape game that poisoned the cape well and spilled to the action well.

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>>380497081
Asylum > Origins > City > Knight
If it wasn't for the Batmobile, Knight would be above City

>>380497224
Yeah, I played it a couple of years ago. It ran just fine.

>>380497217

Yeah, keep going, /v/.

>>380497238
I already mentioned those.
I'm asking if ANY other ones are worth playing. I know there was a 3rd one to tie in to 3rd Raimi movie and then there was a lot of PS3 games.

>>380497224
Yeah. You probably want to play it on Dolphin though, the PS2 emulator is a bitch. And friendly reminder Ultimate has a PC version.

>>380497089
player webswings around the crane to wrap it in web. gets to show off webswinging while looking epic for sony. end result is a big event that didnt involve press X

>>380497372
GC version was fun but fuck, those swings hurt my fingers with the trigger buttons

>>380496816
Upgrades my ass, just take a look at this:
https://youtu.be/ScDeX2ZKBSs?t=5m51s

>>380497370
ultimate spiderman and then web of shadows for the goat spiderman combat

>>380494325

Marvel ruined Spiderman for dumb reasons.

Quesada didn't want Spidey having sex with Gwen out of wedlock so we got Storman Norman cuckoldry in Sins Past.

Spiderman made a deal with the Devil to end his marriage to save his 90 year old aunt after everyone in the Marvel universe, including Dr. Strange who talks to ghosts, told him to let go, because Quesada hated divorce.

Quesada is also the reason no one smokes anymore in Marvel. Since smoking is bad.

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>thinking there will ever be a Spider-Man game better than this

Why even try

>>380496808
Web of Shadows is very much a product of its time but it's still fun.

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>>380497285

>>380497627
my only wish was that youd lose a bit of health when you go flying face first into a building. Would encourage players to actually turn properly and get good as swinging

>>380497667
>>380497840
Do I need to know any Marvel lore? Cause I don't give a shit about comics. Will I still be able to enjoy the games?

Also, how's Shattered Dimensions and Edge of Time?

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>Spiderman: Asscreed/Bamham edition

No thank you

>>380498046
The last two games (ASM1 and ASM2) were already just that.
I can tell people ITT never played ASM games, but this shit is literally just ASM3 without the ASM branding.

>>380498042
>Will I still be able to enjoy the games?
Yes

>how's Shattered Dimensions
Not open world but it's pretty good.

>and Edge of Time?
Bad

>>380497532
Crane would have to fall extremely slow for that to work and the camera would be wonky trying to wrap around something like that

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>>380497750
Yummy Black Cat bummy

>>380497241

>Hey look, it's the cape game that poisoned the cape well and spilled to the action well.

Why blame Rocksteady for other western devs being unoriginal?. The design of the combat itself it's great, just needing a few changes to be hard, less "automatic". They won't make those changes because they want casuals money. Still, while being easy, the games are great.

>>380497285

Why some people put Asylum at first?. It's the most limited in mechanics. My current favorite one is Knight, it would be the best if it wasn't for the dissapointing boss battles.

Do you need to know comics to enjoy Spider games anyway? This new one looks fun but I only played the old PS1 game.

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>>380498269

>>380498046
Spiderman 2 was like that

>>380494895

Silk (Asian waifu) was bitten by the same spider as Spiderman.

Spiderwoman (Jessica Drew) was a Hydra lab subject and a female clone of Spider in Ultimate. She has nothing to do with Spiderman really other than similar powers and was literally created to prevent a movie from being made.

Ben Reilly was a clone of Spiderman. Kaine was another clone.

There's also the magical spider totem people.
>>380494758

Spider-Gwen, AU character who took the Spider meant for Parker

>>380498191
I tried playing TASM2. Dropped a few minutes in with motion sickness from that 30º field of view.

>>380497627
Yeah that really doesn't look much faster at all. I think you're making a mountain of a molehill.

>>380498368
nope

>>380487308
if you nigs claim to care so much about SM2's gameplay then why haven't you bought Energy Hook

/v/ will hate me but

I like QTE

And I like lots of cutscenes on story-heavy games like spiderman games

As long as there is gameplay there too, which there clearly is. Very interactive environments, physics based swinging, dodge-based combat, and possibly more.

Sorry but I like it

Is it PS4 only?

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>>380498393
Mmmmm

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>>380480830
What villains are you hoping for? We've got Osborn, Mr. Negative and the Kingpin confirmed so far.

>>380498394
Do you mean Spider-Man 2 (PS2/GC/Xbox)? Because that's objectively wrong.

>>380498042
if you watched the 90s cartoon then web of shadows should make sense. Ultimate is kind of different to classic spiderman but everything is explained in game so it doesnt matter. Teenage me was able to understand the symbiote in ultimate was some science shit and not alien so youll do fine

>>380498247
it fell pretty slow in the trailer. Camera would be no different to what we experience when going upside down when web swingign to wall crawling so thats no issue. Instead we got QTE instead of just giving us either gameplay or a cutscene

>>380498368

You really shouldn't. Comics nowadays are written for broad audience, and they either have a big splash page updating you, and they do big exposition dumps half the time whenever something is mentioned. Also, continuity is basically ignored at Marvel nowadays.

>>380498597
Vulture, Shocker, Mysterio, Kraven, Sandman, Electro and Rhino would be cool.

>>380498368
No Spider-man fan reads comics. If they did, they wouldn't be fans. Or at least would be very sore like me.

>>380498275
>Best writing
>Best scenario
>Best set-up
It knew what it was and did it extremely well

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>>380498585
dont have anymore black cat

>>380498421
i didnt mind the sense of speed it brought fuck me half the screen is spidermans back get me the fuck back

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Stuff like this makes me realize superhero story is so dull when compared to anime.

>>380498623
>>380498678
>>380498758
I never watched the cartoons either (and dont intend to) is that still fine?
If so, I'd dive into the PS3 games.

>>380498368
not really at all. It's spiderman, everyone kind of knows the story already

>wake up
>try to hide some spiderman shit from aunt may
>try to hit on MJ, get curved
>go to daily bugle, get yelled at and told to find some pictures of spiderman
>'heheh he's a pretty good friend of mine'
>maybe fight doc ock or something for a bit
>get some tasteful spidey shots
>make out with mj as spiderman after saving her from the green goblin or some shit
>'Ill give you $5 for these pictures of spiderman'
>"aw geez these are really good"
>'alright $10'
>fight doc oc again, maybe stop some street thugs or something
>talk to statues on buildings
>be home before aunt may gets worried

>>380498623
>no different to what we experience when going upside down when web swingign to wall crawling so thats no issue.

Except the part of a gaint falling crane blocling your view as it falls while you try to wrap around it

>>380498615

Dodging mechanic is similar to how counter works in Spider-Man. Enemies attack one of a time. Some enemies can block, so you have to use spider reflexes or web to attack them. The rest is just combos, and you can't say they are hard to pull off.

It's almost the same thing.

>>380498950
do ultimate spiderman first id say. only spiderman game with good webswinging outside of spiderman2. Better story, better characters and you can play as venom

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>>380498597

Overdrive.

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>>380498949
good joke bro

>>380498950
Yes.

>>380498965
Yeah all I know is the premise basically.
Kid gets infected with radioactive spider, gets mutant spider powers n sheeeit while banging a redhead.

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>>380498949
Don't waste your time. You have no power here.

>>380498976
youre right anon, its impossible to make work. let us just be done with it and make it a qte i suppose

>>380499072
is "spidey senses" just those flashing lights around your head when you're about to get hit, or is it like a max payne bullet-time thing?

>>380499203
pretty much all you need to know, as said before there isn't even much continuity in the comics, shows, movies, etc, they're all kind of just their own thing thats rehashed and there's so many different non-canon stories and whatnot that trying to find out or decide on what truly is "canon" spiderman is almost impossible

>>380498597
The Kangaroo

>>380499507
I don't give give a shit about canon in capeshit anyway, just want to have fun. Alright thank you and everyone else who replied. I'm gonna play me some Spidey this week.

what was the animated spiderman movie where he fought the guy that could turn into water or sand or something? I think shocker was in it too although I can't quite remember.

I just vaguely remember it as a kid and remember liking it a lot. Will I be disappointed watching it now or does it hold up?

>>380480830
So apparently the Spider-Man in this game is 23 years old and has been heroing for 8 years. Refreshing to see after all these "High School" adaptaions of Spider-Man in recent years.

>>380499203

More like

>autistic nerd gets bitten radioactive spider
>gets super strength and spider powers
>tries to become wrestler
>accidentally kills his uncle
>spaghettis in front of girl
>things get better
>then they get worst

>repeat endlessly

Everyone always talks about the PS1 game, but everyone also seem to forget it had a sequel (Enter Electro). Is it any good?

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>>380498817
You can have one more

>>380499707
The 90s cartoon. It's still considered the second best adaptation, even though he didn't ever throw a single punch.

>>380499707
>what was the animated spiderman movie where he fought the guy that could turn into water or sand or something? I think shocker was in it too although I can't quite remember.

Hydroman and Sandman are seperate characters.

Guess who does what.

>>380499316

Both: there's spider sense (the prompt that appears when someone is attacking you, just like Arkham) and spider reflexes (a rechargable bullet time mode, just like in Max Payne).

>>380499072
It's nothig what're you talking about, did you even play both games?
SM2 spider reflex have a much smaller window and don't leave the enemies open for a counter, it's just a dodging mechanic.
Arkham is completely focused on rhythmic button presses and combo building, SM2 has neither of those. SM2 doesn't have combo meter for executions, instead it has manual combos for different moves and attacks.

I'm not saying one combat system is better or more difficult than the other, i'm just saying that they're vastly different and SM(PS4) definitely copied the Arkham system.

>>380499773
>not enjoying pizza delivery

>>380499952

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMk-HPBF6Mw

Obligatory

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>>380499952

>>380499952
>second best
What's first best?

>>380499794

Just as good in my opinion, even when it has less iconic villans: only Electro, Shocker and Sandman.

>>380500185
That guy was a great Peter.

>>380500450
Spectacular.

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>>380500523

>Shocker
>not iconic

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>Watching Spiderman
>Fisk is actually white
>Bad guys is asian
>Spidey referes to himself as Peter

Wow this might actually be g-

>MILES MORALES AT THE END CONFIRMED PETER GET KEKED

Into the trash it goes.

>>380500087

Of course i play them, did you?.

>SM2 spider reflex have a much smaller window and

Almost the same.


>don't leave the enemies open for a counter, it's just a dodging mechanic.

Come on, there's three counter moves: one uppercut (pressing the attack button and right after a dodge), one side punch (pressing left) and some sort of weird acrobatic counterattack (when you just press attack after dodging).


I loved that game as a kid, i know what i'm talking about.

>>380480830
>he doesnt know that you can physically simulate animations then use these animation and use these generated animations as normal animations that looks realistic

>>380500542

The 60's show is stupid in a fun way too.

https://youtu.be/tz0Ng6zz490

>>380501048

I was trashing on Hammerhead. I love Shocker. He was also a great best bossfight in hard, having to throw him crates in a building on fire.

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>>380502014

I have a softness for the wannabe 30's gangster. That and the Crime Circus people.

>>380501243
You just answered yourself then, SM2 has two inputs to actually counter an enemy, 1 to dodge, then 1 to attack in multiple ways. Arkham counter requires just one button press to both block and counter and enemy attack. They're not alike at all.
And then there's the whole combat system differences while you're on the offense which you should already know about.

>>380500296
>choker grows spikes
>cooter gets bigger
>daddy issues come back

What's the difference between PC and PS1 versions of Spiderman 2000? I'm asking since sequel is only on PS1 and I'm wondering if I should just play both on PS1 for consistency, unless the PC version is much better or something.

>>380483646
No, they never did.

They've been working on this game for years now and we've only ever seen Peter

Only complete fucking retards think it's Miles. Honestly you should die if you think it's Miles after seeing Peter for YEARS

Miles is in the game and he may even be playable, but it's pretty clear he's not the main character.

>>380489152
Does he also have a collection radiated spiders that he uses to give people these powers or something?
It sounds fucking horrible

>>380502443

The similarities exist, with the counter itself (one little extra imput doesn't take away the resemblance) and the enemies passiveness.

>>380486094
>Obviously they were going to include a bunch of Cinematic Action™ because E3 is more about generating hype than actually showing off gameplay

And that says a lot about the industry, the consumers, and the games themselves if showing actual gameplay is not a priority.

>>380484491
>qte's will be limited to huge plot moments

I honestly wish I could believe that, but I can't.

>>380504074
Guy you replied to here. And yes, exactly. At this point it's basically a platform for publishers to have a blockbuster-size wank over themselves. An industry like that promotes a shallow consumer who will in turn prefer shallow games. Doesn't dictate that any individual game be shit by any stretch but overall yeah, represents a deteriorating spiral of ever-triter garbage

>>380496083
>polygon warping

Meme complaint.

>>380506559
Okay, how about PS1 and N64 have no webbing.

>>380505546
>this cinematic feel we;re going for will only be in main missions
>it wont affect any aspect of the game other than that

who buys this bullshit? there looks to be no charge jump in this game which is a shame but probably doesnt fit into the style of game theyre going for (cinematic bullshit)

is it going to be open world?

>>380481302
you kidding dude? spiderman 2 on the ps2 is the main one everyone talks about, that was the real webslinging action.

dont get me wrong, I also really liked ultimate, but the webslinging isnt even close

>>380482481
it was pretty shit as i remember, still not holding a candle to the original s2. i guess we're always hoping for a true spiritual successor. until then we have worlds adrift.