AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>380463368
This is obviously to not give advantage to players who put out money for an Xbox One X over people on the regular Xbone. They did this very same thing with PS3/360 to PS4/XB1

So are xbone and PC kids getting cross play or what. My friends aren't magically going to want to build a PC and I sure as shit won't want to buy a $500 paperweight just so we can play together

>>380463368
Why bother with an xXboneXx then?

How? The specs for xbox one x isn't a joke. It's comparable to a high end pc

It's the damn CPU

>>380463368
I hurt myself. Today.

>>380463368
Whats the point of new hardware if it wont significantly improve performance?

>>380464273
So why can't they do 60fps on all platforms now that they've ditched last gen?

>>380465276

You mean comparable to a 4 year old mid tier PC, right?

>>380465881
Actually no, it's better than the majority of PCs out there, its a locked down console so that power really isn't put to good use and you're severely limited in what you can do with it, but it beats the 1060 in raw power easily and is pretty close to a 1070 in theoretical raw performance (6TF vs. 6.5TF.)

Granted it still doesn't have the kind of CPU one would want to pair with a 1070 but it's got raw GPU power and RAM to match, 9GB usable after the OS. It's not weak by any means but there's no real reason to switch to it if you own a PC

>>380466405
>it beats the 1060 in raw power easily and is pretty close to a 1070
nigga that's low-mid range

>>380466405

TFLOPs aren't a spec of any relevance. They're a marketing phrase.

The hardware isn't particularly impressive, it's GPU is literally mid tier from years ago while everything else is seriously holding it back (and going to bottleneck it).
It's a $500 machine, it's not going to perform as well as a $1000 PC (especially when you consider PCs are generally more cost effective).

>>380463368
Isn't it confirmed now that Sony is holding gaming back though?

can someone explain to me what the fuck TFLOPs even are

>>380466405
>but it beats the 1060 in raw power easily and is pretty close to a 1070 in theoretical raw performance (6TF vs. 6.5TF.)
Stopped reading there.
TFLOPs means nothing when it comes to performance across different architectures.
For instance, the RX 580 has compute performance nearing 6.2 TFLOPs, and it gets stomped by a 1070.
Hell, my R9 Fury has compute performance nearing 7.5 TFLOPs and it also gets beaten out by a 1070 in 90% of games.

You know it's fucking Sony literally not letting them do 60fps since PS4 is advertised as best place to play Destiny 3

>>380467156

Floating point operation. Basically how many times per second a processor can add 1.1 + 1.1 together.

Literally that is it, they're not particularly relevant in any kind of real world measure of performance.

>>380464894
Do you enjoy slaughtering the less fortunate anon?

>>380467513
huh. well that's pretty stupid. Thanks for the info though.

>>380463368

H-HA! JUST YOU WAIT!

w-when microsoft releases THE CLOUD everything will run in 8k 180fps! then it's US who'll laugh! xD

>>380467513
>they're not particularly relevant in any kind of real world measure of performance.

...except as a measure of raw computing power which is very useful

if people here don't understand how to apply different types of figures that's one thing

>>380467703
Yes?

>>380467845
>THE CLOUD
They dropped that marketing scheme faster then Nintendo dropped the Wii U.

>>380467992
>...except as a measure of raw computing power which is very useful
If you're comparing similar architectures.
If not, it's about as useful as talking about clockspeeds.

>>380467432
This

>>380465768
Because xbone and ps4 cant do 60fps and they have the main installbase

>>380465768
regular Xbox and regular PS4 are incapable of steady 60fps, thats why. It would create an unfair advantage for the PS4Pro and Xbox One X. Everyone gets 30FPS, problem solved

>>380468261
>>380467432
Or maybe it's just not strong enough to do 4k60.
I wouldn't be surprised if even this 4k30 mode uses checkerboarding or some kind of dynamic resolution.

>>380467992

Actually, it's accepted FLOPS are a bad measure of performance in real world scenarios. The only time FLOPS are a useful measurement is in scientific computations, but they use IPs because it's more accurate.

There is millions of variables that effect performance, and FLOPS accounts for none of them. This is precisely why it's a bad measurement and not used anywhere (except by Microsoft apparently).

>>380465768
because they'd have to make the game uglier for that and ugly games dont sell

>>380463368
>Expecting DESTINY 2 (TWO) to be anything other than half a last-gen game sold for full price + $100 in DLC
laffin

>>380468449

It probably does.

Microsofts definition of "true 4K" is as loose as their definition of "exclusive". Microsoft have already stated they consider checkerboarding "true 4K".

>>380463368
>Make new shitbox so people can play games better
>Don't play games better
wow

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>>380466405
>but it beats the 1060 in raw power easily and is pretty close to a 1070 in theoretical raw performance (6TF vs. 6.5TF.)
Post this on /g/, i fucking dare you

>>380463368
>release more powerful console
>games can only just reach the theoretical bar set by the last iteration
Fuck these mid-gen releases. I'd rather wait until XBox TwoX

No shit, they want it consistent with the xbone version and other consoles
this is going to be the main problem with the X, devs don't want to make their customers mad by having a clear better version available on a more expensive console, even MS constantly said "all games will run well across all xbox one consoles" to try and not piss people off who don't want to buy one

nobody cares about framerates

>>380465768
Because bungie can't code. They've never made a 60fps game and their reticules are ALWAYS retardedly on along the bottom thiurd of the screen instead of dead center.

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THEY TOLD ME 4K 60 FPS!!!

>Ass Creed Origins isn't native 4k
>Destiny 2 runs at 30 FPS, probably also isn't native 4k
>Most multiplats likely won't run at 4k
B-But at least we got 4-4k in The Last Night guys!

>>380470001
(Upscaled) 4k with 60 frames per (2) second(s)

>>380466405
>>380467425
It's just that AMD cards just have more teraflops (when compared with the Nvidia card with similar performance). Since the Xbongo X will have an AMD GPU, it's pretty safe to assume it will be similar to an RX 580 (also 6TFLOPS), and that's just not a 4k 60 fps card.

>>380469891
Halo was 30fps?
Damn, maybe it is just me remembering things incorrectly but that game was smooth as fuck.

>>380470147
(male)

>>380470275
AMD anything has more of everything that's not actual performance. Their stuff has garbage, inefficient architecture

>>380469891
Destiny 2 will be 60 FPS on PC

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>>380465276
>It's comparable to a high end pc

Oh I'm laffin'

>>380465276
The CPU is literally comparable to a budget laptop. It's a fucking embarrassingly-unbalanced pile of shite, like somebody buying a 1080 Ti to stick in their old Core 2 Quad system.

>>380463368
sounds like it's deliberately gimped, sorta like breath of the wild on wiiu

>>380468096


yesterday I've read some people arguing that it's still coming, and that it'll make the xbox one x more powerful than a high end pc

>>380464273
nope, it's because Sony has an exclusive deal with Activision and they want to maximize sales on ps4 version.

>>380468447
>everyone eats shit, problem solved!

>>380463368
Probably the same reason for the PS4 Pro, CPU is too weak. What is it, like 1.7GHz for the Xbonx?

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>>380463368
I read yesterday that some dev was able to port a 1080p/30 fps version of their game to 1080p/60fps for XboneX in only 2 hours, so there's only 2 options here:
>Sony is not allowing Bungie to enhance Destiny 2
>Bungie is that incompetent and lazy

>>380468447
>unfair advantage

Literally the most retarded and bullshit reason. PC players range from fucking taoster 15 fps to 120 fps, yet they don't get divided.

XboneX cannot do it, and even though Sony said multiplayer wont have differeing fps some games do anyways.

>>380466405
>what is bottlenecking
The shit-tier CPU makes all the "raw GPU power" worthless, it's an abomination of a machine.

>>380467992
FLOPS are rarely going to be the bottleneck.

>>380472029
In theory, consoles should have better performance than PC due to having uniform hardware
In reality, this shit barely ever happens

>>380471895
2.3 GHz on the XBX, and I think 2.1 GHz on the Pro.
The fact that they're STILL stuck on this shitty "custom" Jaguar shit is going to be a problem.

>>380465276
>The specs for xbox one x isn't a joke
>first game tested
>checkerboard 4K
That's a good joke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8oPvbpVGP0&t=134s

>>380472175
>PC players range from fucking taoster 15 fps to 120 fps, yet they don't get divided.
Yea, this, whenever I hear this "IT'S UNFAIR" shit, I cringe, because PC has by far the most hardware diversity, and toasterfags don't complain about it and get the rest of us gimped, they just git fucking gud.

>>380466405
Get a load of this fucking guy.

>>380467845
>w-when microsoft releases THE CLOUD
Weren't they supposed to do that four years ago?

>>380472554
>2.3 GHz on the XBX, and I think 2.1 GHz on the Pro
Why the fuck are Sony and MS still using such shitty CPUs?

>>380472682
I don't console players would complain either, which is why I find it odd that BOTH companies are gimping their multiplayer.

Besides the average console buyer (normies) have no fucking clue about framerates or resolution. They only care a bout price and how "good" the graphics look.

I honestly don't understand the point of xbone x or the playstation variant. They're going to bomb hard and cost both companies a lot of fucking money for no reason.

>>380463368
>Destiny 2
massive sony marketing with exclusive content that would be trashed if their competition had the definitive version of the game

>Assassin's Creed
even the PC builds that have seen are running at 30. and let's not forget the game is in Alpha along with the fact that it's a massively big open world game.

I mean /v/ is in full force, what about all the games that are living up to the promise?

Let the console show it's worth at release. right now this is just pathetic.

I'll care about this when a game like Anthem doesn't run 4K/60 right now you guys are just nitpicking.

>>380473140
Pro is already out and it didn't bomb.

Xbone on the other hand is a different story. If anyone wanted one they would have bought it by now, and its not like theres any games coming out for it.

>>380472760
>Anonymous
Can't THE CLOUD when you need to turn your Xbox into a literal botnet machine

>>380472760

they were and yet people still trust microsofts marketing memes.

>>380472964
cost cutting

>>380472964
No choice, they fucked up by using them with the originals, upgrading the CPUs to something not shit would be too expensive.
Plus, I don't think AMD will be releasing any of their mobile Zen CPUs until like late 2018.

So how is this console going to work?

What if I don't want to play Destiny in 4k or 1440p or whatever. Can I choose to play at 1080p in order to confirm 60 fps like you can with pc?

>>380473334
>I'll care about this when a game like Anthem doesn't run 4K/60
And it won't, and when it doesn't instead of people just expecting that they'll look at posts like yours that swear up and down that it will, and they'll shitpost about it.
So don't complain about it later, because remember, you brought it on yourself by being delusional.

>>380473334
>what about all the games that are living up to the promise?
You mean all those indie games?

>>380468447
Luke Smith went on and on about how they tried to get it at 60 for the ps4pro but the cpu wasn't there. So i'm supposed to believe that it's a parity thing now?

I mean realistically if it was the same issue for the xbox why haven't they clarified that yet? why not be frank about it and say the one x doesn't have the cpu either or that it does but it's about parity?

they haven't given a reason which allows itself to be open to a dumb discussion like this.

>>380473767
>Can I choose to play at 1080p in order to confirm 60 fps like you can with pc?
Probably not, most of the games on these console refreshes mainly just have a high-res mode and a base mode.
You CAN do that with The Surge though, at least on PS4 Pro.

>>380473359
Pro is out? Huh. Well I can't see either really being profitable. Most people already bought a system they cared about, and are looking for cheaper alternatives if they're going to grab another console I'd think. Theres going to be those that waited for a more powerful system or to upgrade of course, but I think that'd be a minority of consumers. Honestly I don't see anything that'd make me want to upgrade for either system

>>380463368
>PS: That’s correct. But… [laughs] Why do you care about 60fps?

NO NO NO FUCK YOU THIS IS HORRIBLE

>>380472029
Bungie already released a statement saying it's not being watered down because of ps exclusive rights to promote the game.
which is double speak for that's exactly what they are doing.

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>>380463368

I'm really glad these 4k consoles are an expensive joke.

>>380463368
What did you expect?
Both systems are designed to run 4K* but not do 60FPS.

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>>380465276
>It's comparable to a high end pc

>>380473851
if anthem doesn't then it doesn't but again having a conversation about this stuff now is really too soon.

>>380474000
Forza 4K/60, Gears 4K/60 multiplayer, and yeah all the indies. I mean what's the point of having this conversation. Is laughing at the xbox going to validate your ps4pro purchase? do you stick it to microsoft by drawing away their potential sales?

Microsoft has been honest on the fact that this isn't going to sell in a massive boom with high expectations. this console is for basically an xbox player that wants a better xbox or a guy who wants a CONSOLE better than the pro and doesn't care about the price.

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>7-week delay for blizzard destiny

yeah I'm getting it on console

>>380474816
>but again having a conversation about this stuff now is really too soon.
Doesn't stop you from talking about the things M$ has shilled as being 4k60 despite showing nothing.
If you don't want people talking about these games not hitting 4k then why are you bringing up Gears when they haven't shown us anything?
All that does is give people incentive to laugh at you later when/if these games are released and it turns out they don't run at 4k and/or 60 FPS.

>>380474419
>Pro is out? Huh.

Anon its almost been out for a year

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>can't even run one of the biggest fucking releases multiplat releases at 60FPS

BUT AT LEAST YOU GET ((TRUE)) 4K
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA

>>380475939
Weird. I bought my ps4 maybe 1.5 years ago. Guess I should have waited. Oh well

>>380472637
>checkerboard 4K
Wait wat.
Then why did they talk about "true 4k" in the E3 presentation?
I thought they meant it's going to be different from what most PS4 Pro titles do.

>>380474991
a delayed release is better than no release at all
only an impatient retard like you would willingly play an FPS on console

>>380475520
it's just a counter argument. but i guess you're right that it doesn't hold up much here. congratulations you win. go ahead and laugh that i gave them the benefit of the doubt to prove themselves first.

was sony's conference so bad that the defense force is on overdrive? you guys are really cancerous. i'd say /v/ had been better but it's always been this bad.

don't bother replying, i'm leaving the thread.

>>380476751
Market speak, you need to read the fine print >>380470147
You need a high-end PC for actual 4k, there is no way current gen will get it

What's even the point of consoles?

>>380476751
Apparently only first party titles will be native 4K now.

>>380477231
Years ago you could say comfort and the 'plug and play' ability of them. Now though, they're just shitty PCs.

>>380467703

Who doesn't?

>>380463368
All of Bungies console games have been 30FPS.

>>380477231
None whatsoever. You can just stream your PC into your TV and play from a couch

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>>380463368
>put up with Microsoft's shit for ten years
>finally break free
>lose the battle for custody
>can't see son ever again
>time4revenge.jpg
>take out your grudge on xbox players instead of Microsoft themselves, practically abandoning your fanbase
>only literal drones continue to love you even though you're shitting on them for something they didn't even do
>suck on some PSWhore Jap dicks in some vain childish ass attempt to make Bill Gates jealous
>fracture your community even more than it already is
Fuck 'em.

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>>380466405

High end PC's play 8k now.

Cant wait to play this at 4k 144Hz

>>380478771
will likely be capped at 60FPS

>>380477231
people will say it makes games easier to develop with fixed hardware but i call bullshit

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>>380470147
(Upscaled) 4k with 60 frames per (2) second(s)

>>380478867
they already confirmed uncapped FPS for PC I believe
I hop Bungie is cooking up some optimization magic

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>>380464894

>xbone and PC kids getting cross play

topkek. I would kill for it cuz I want to drink more TEARS of peasants.

>>380465276
>it isn't a joke

Hahahahahahahaha

The graphics card and processor are complete shit. Microsoft knows its fanboys are retarded because all they kept talking about was MUH RAM!

>>380479091
You're right, Bungie said PC framerate would be uncapped. https://www.vg247.com/2017/05/19/destiny-2-frame-rate-on-pc-can-go-as-high-as-144-fps-ps4-and-xbox-one-locked-to-30fps/

>>380465276

The CPU is still shit so it's limited to the same FPS as the other consoles.

>>380467513
Basically Microsoft knows its fanboys are retarded so they can say things like TFLOPs and RAM and they will eat that shit up because they are ignorant.

>Consoles never try to push Frames and always try to push Graphic fidelity
>Destiny is sided to PS4 because the deals so there cant be a version that is superior to them

Was it even a surprise?
Wonder what kind of machine you would need to have to run 4K 60fps on the PC.

>>380479814
12 GIGS OF RAM
6 TERAFLOPS
MOST POWERFUL POWER VIDEO GAMES POWER EVER CONSOLE YAAAEEEEEEAHHHSADAJF

>>380480983

That's still technically true, doesn't make the cpu less shit but it is the most powerful console ever made.

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>>380472637
>assassin's creed
>checkerboard 4K

It's fucking nothing. It's like the series isn't notorious for being unoptimized and full of graphical glitches and bugs.

Besides it's essentially just dithering... you don't hate dithering do you?

>>380465276
The problem with both PS4 Pro and Scorpio is that their CPUs are absolute trash.
They can put a GPU as big as they want, if the CPU bottlenecks it, it'll be useless.

>>380481374
>It's like the series isn't notorious for being unoptimized and full of graphical glitches and bugs
Right. I'm sure AC: Origins will be the one and one fake 4k game on the X.

>>380476927

Wow, that's a lot of asshurt. Calm down pussy.

>Tfw console fanboyism is so strong I can't trust anyone to give me an honest answer as to how strong the Xbox 1 X is because PCbros will tell me it's garbage even if it was a supercomputer

I've never owned an Xbox and I'm mostly a PC gamer but fuck, Microsoft looked decent this year. I paid about 450 dollars this year for a new graphics card and 20 gigs of RAM sticks just to upgrade my PC. If I could get a decent console for the price of a PC upgrade that doesn't sound like such a raw deal to me.

I know X1X has 8 gigs of RAM but I honestly don't know what any of the other shit means. When I want to upgrade my PC I just buy something expensive with good reviews every six or so years, I barely know what the parts do or what the numbers mean.

>>380463368
>no dedicated servers
>30 fps
>no new class/race

Why the fuck would anyone bother with this? I never got to play the first one and I was kinda excited to hear there'd be one on PC, but now I don't even give a shit.

>>380463368
SO THIS......IS THE POWER...OF X.

>>380483167
according to posts in this thread, the X1X has a 2.3ghz CPU. to put that in context, my old as fuck (almost a decade old) CPU I'm using in my computer clocks in at 3.2ghz

also, I don't bother with consoles now because it seems like devs aren't making an effort to adopt 60 fps but want to do the 4k meme instead. I like having choice, and consoles just don't accommodate that.

>>380484438

I'd much rather have 1080p in a stable, this is important, STABLE 60 FPS than 4k. I feel like we already reached the point of diminishing returns with graphics. Everything looks either beautiful or good enough and has for a while now. At least in the games meant to push graphics like racing games and FPS games, there's definitely other kinds of games with a lower graphical standard that have yet to catch up like open world shit.

I feel like a smooth stable performance now is much more important than looking even better than shit already does, but if the focus is just more and more pixels we will never get stable performance. By the time consoles can do 4k 60fps we are just going to move on to 8k with 30fps that constantly dips and chugs depending on what's on the screen.

We will just never hit the barrier where NORMIES are satisfied with graphics and can increase performance. Imagine a game with tons of shit on screen like Dynasty Warriors or Fallout with like 30 characters in a big skirmish that never dips or drops frames.

>>380485384
>I'd much rather have 1080p in a stable, this is important, STABLE 60 FPS than 4k.

Why stop there? I'd rather play at 1280*720 at 120 fps. No joke. Resolution is completely overrated, has no effect on gameplay whereas framerate IS gameplay.

>>380466405
You're the reason why consolefags are known for being retards.

Meanwhile, on PC you have 15 fps people playing with 144 and no one crying for them to nerf high fps players.

>>380466405
>muh teraflops
Drop this marketing meme you goof

>There are people who believed muh 4K60 when the only game he specifically says will run at 4K60 is fucking Forza
Ya'll got played.

>>380463368
its sonys fault with their shitty underpowered press x to watch cutscene console

>>380485831
>hurr one extreme or the other
Shut up retard.

>>380476751
Because they consider that 4k = number of pixel in the framebuffer.
It's like saying that your YIFY shitty compressed movie is "true 1080p" because you don't consider video compression.

Funniest part is that i told /v/ thousands of time that technically a checkerbord video game like HZD is 4k native, even though the quality will be shitty.
I also told that therefore, the scorpio will use checkerbord as well.
But no, i've been insulted every time i told the truth.

>>380472029
Bruh if a 1080ti with an I7 7700k can ran native 4k at 60 fps but only on medium settings what makes you think that hot piece of shit console (more like consLUL amiright?) can?

>>380486585
>120 fps
>extreme

90 fps is where it starts feeling smooth. Even mainstream game devs will admit this but only in the context of VR where they are forced to give a shit about smoothness.

>>380486438
Yea, i remember the xbox fan when they thought that the scorpio will handle 4k non checkerbord + 60 fps titles because of that forza video.
God they were so dumb.

>>380467432
>>380468261
Crackdown 3 is also 30fps on the Xbonx you retard Xfag.

>>380463368
Other games have been showing a performance difference Bungie is just garbage now.

>>380474816
>Forza at 4k
This meme again. Race track games are hardly the most demanding games to play, in fact they are some of the easiest to render because there isn't much to render in the first place. It's why the motorsport games have been 1080p 60 fps on Xbox one, whereas more open world racing games like forza horizon has been stuck at a pathetic 1080p 30 fps.

Stop falling for their marketing tricks. If they were truly proud of their "4k capable console" they'd have shown GTA 5 running at 4k 60 fps.

>>380487084
Not him but Crackdown 3 has a an open world city and the multiplayer is fully destructible. There is no way in hell that game is pulling above 30fps.

>>380464273
That didn't stop Black Ops 3 from fucking up horribly on my PS3.

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>>380486560
>its Sony's fault that Microsoft's console is shit

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>>380486560
This has to be a shitpost. If not, >>380488515 is pretty spot on.

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>>380488515
God damn, why do they have those beady little fucking eyes? She'd be so cute if it wasn't for those fucking eyes, they creep me the fuck out.

>>380473767
Destiny 2 on consoles is locked to 30FPS, no matter what.

>>380465276
According to some hardware-related sites, the xbox one x would be similar to a pc with an Intel Core i3-7100 3.9Ghz, 2 x Crucial Ballistix Sport LT White 4GB DDR4-2400 (shared memory with the GPU), EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 Gaming 3GB GDDR5 (or a rx580 with very low memory)

>>380476751

the fuck is checkerboard 4k?

>>380472029
It's original Xbox One that's causing problems. I think they want to keep the game performing the same across both models to ensure nobod gets advantage.

>>380491463
When you render the actual gameworld at a lower resolution but then you upscale and do some effects at full 4K. Or in other words: A marketing trick.

>>380491627

you cant be serious with this shit.

>>380463368
It's still the best console for what it was built for, out of the pro and x1x. Considering multiplats are the bread and butter of consoles and that they make up like 95% of all console game sales I think this will do pretty well. I can see the hardcore consolefags buying this to play at 4k/near 4k. This whole gen has been about muh grafix too which will again reinforce the whole muh 4k narrative for console plebs.

Remember when games didn't matter about fps and resolution? Sad times.

Both Xbox and Destiny are for normies anyway

>>380492263
You are right, but I doubt any of that really matters in the end.

>$499.99
>big scary 4k
>I already have an Xbox

>>380472637
Can't tell if this is a bait post or that you're simply retarded and have the memoryspan of an almond. Ubisoft has made every ac game since unity with parity between Xbox and PlayStation. When the ps4 can be 1080p they made it 900p probably to not piss off fans of Xbox. Same goes for the new consoles they don't want to piss off ps4 pro players.

They could always increase the res if they wanted to though because if you remember ac:black flag it came out at 720p on both consoles but they released a day 1 patch for PlayStation to make it 1080p.

>>380466405
>>380465276
Retard

Are you people seriously buying Destiny 2? Havent you learned anything?

>>380493148
Destiny was hella fun. I'm not poor, and I don't care if it pisses other poor people off, and I love the gameplay and me an my PC friends look forward to the sequel. Sorry bro (lmao)

>>380464273
>>380463368
Scorpio and PS4Pro have a decent GPU to run games at 1080p/60fps (too bad for those very shitty CPUs). There's no way that with such GPUs could run modern games at 4k/60fps (or even mantain a constant 30fps). As much I'd go for 2k resolutions and 30fps up to 60fps variation

>>380463368
they basically just admitted they intentionally reduced the fps on xbox

>>380484438
Not always the high clock speed of the CPU means that's super fast. A Pentium 4 at 3.2Ghz isn't better than a i3 with 2.8Ghz

>>380474671
And did you expect them to come out and say "yeah Sony told us to not do 60fps" if it was the case?

>>380494484
Disparity one a console platform between users is something that seems more important to work around than disparity between platforms anyway. You would like to think it is cause of some console war bullshit, but it's probably just so that XB1 and XboneX players don't have differing FPSs, where they can control it unlike with PC.

>>380463368
This is most likely parity for original Xbone owners. It'd be unfair if someone playing at 30fps had to go against someone playing at 60fps.

>>380465768
Bungie said in a interview they couldn't get Destiny 2 to run 60 fps even on PS4 pro.

It's gonna run 60 fps 4k on PC though so who cares about consoles.

>>380463368
Let's ask a more important question: Why does the game cost 90 fucking euros?
Yeah, 90, because you're gonna NEED the expansions if you don't want to become obsolete the moment they're released.

I think Sony is behind this as they have a deal going with they game Destiny 2 and I am sure Sony would make it where the Xbox cannot have the best version of the game, there is no reason why Destiny can't do 4K 60 and they are talking about Gears 4 and Witcher 3 doing it.

>>380496650
>so who cares about consoles.
Many millions of people, more than the folk who care about PC gaming.

>>380498747
>Many millions of people, more than the folk who care about PC gaming.
those people chose to buy into a walled garden system where they can't choose to balance performance and visual fidelity however they like

>>380498747
I doubt there's more people on consoles playing vidya than there are on PC playing niche shit you can't find anywhere else. PC gaming is more than shit you see on steam and mobas

>>380463368
>Gorillian Teraflops
>30 FPS

Sony Always Wins

>>380498939
>those people chose to buy into a walled garden system where they can't choose to balance performance and visual fidelity however they like
Not everyone wants that anon.
Why go to McDonalds when you can make a better tasting burger at home? Because you don't want to that's why. You have to take into account of the people who want to buy something and have that be it, no upgrading, no troubleshooting, no driver and windows updating, no digital only, there are a lot of factors to be a console gamer over a PC gamer and vise versa, just depends on what the person wants and is willing to put up with.

Like me for example, I game on PC and console and right now I want to buy an RX480 8GB, but guess what? I can't, at least not for less than double the MSRP, why is that? That is a pain in my ass that made me consider going console only for a while.

>>380463368
Breaking News: Bungie is lazy!

More at 11

>>380463368
Gr8 b8