Monster Casual Hunter

>farcaster doesn't already exist
Equip change is bull though.

>/v/ will defend it just becauseof console war bullshit
What a sad time to be alive.

I'm also expecting to be able to restock shit. If it's true it's sad.

>WHY ISNT THE GROUND HARD ENOUGH

>>380448286
>unironically defending casualization

>>380447738
we did it reddit

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The complaints are getting so fucking petty at this point. All the other things listed are great and vastly outweigh being able to do a thing that you could already do, only slightly easier.

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I have no idea what any of this means but I hope it'll be good since this is my first MH game.

MONSTER RUNNER LOL

>>380449205
Everyone did with 3rd gen

>WHAT THE FUCK IS A FARCASTER?

>>380449948
An item you had to bring to use and doesn't let you change equips?

>>380449397
I hope you have fun :)

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>>380447359
HAH BTFO I DIDNT WANT IT ANYWAY

These complains are fucking bullshit.
If it has the combat system, the monsters and the maps are well made and the battles are difficult and fun, it's a good Monster Hunter game. All the other things are details, they can't change the whole experience.

Also, the environment stuff already compensates this. That has a lot of potential.

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>>380447359
>I cant handle change: the fanbase

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>>380452880

I don't care about MHW, I'm going to get it on my PC when it's available.

I'm pissed that Capcom is skipping out on XX's western release (even though it's already mostly translated) in favor of pushing World down our throat.

There's no reason why there needs to be this console wars bullshit. There's no reason why we shouldn't be able to enjoy both portable and console Monster Hunter experiences, especially when said games already exist. The games could exist in harmony if Capcom wasn't so greedy.

I want everyone to enjoy Monster Hunter, in whatever form it takes.

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>>380453813
>"i literally don't know what am talking about"

couldn't you warp in 3U? That was the last one I played. Or was it just the shortcuts back to camp?

>>380448013
You could just bring ingredients with you and combine them before though so restocking (especially ammo) is not a big deal

>>380447359
Give one good reason why you shouldn't be allowed to change gear at camp.

>>380453813
>change
>Capcom
Please choose one and only one or disaster will happen.

>>380454619
This
Why the hate for that? Change equip without additional load times

>>380455005
You had to quit a hunt to change before, you don't now.
But I still don't think it's a bad thing.

>>380454619
Preparation for a hunt by looking at both the hunt environment and monster list is and has always been a big part of the game. If you take that away you take an extra layer of complexity that the game had and made it fun. So it's nothing more than further casualization.

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>>380454143
I'm just glad I didn't have to buy another shitty Ninty console just to play a 240p MH game. Can't wait to play MHW on my glorious rig.

>>380447359

I'm hyped. Finally get to play a game for my PS4.

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>When the betrayal sets in

>>380455169
>Preparation for a hunt by looking at both the hunt environment and monster list is and has always been a big part of the game.
Except when you play missions with random monster appearances, you mean.
>If you take that away you take an extra layer of complexity that the game had and made it fun.
On the contrary, it allows you to deal with monsters in various ways, and you're no longer stuck with either break or cut rewards, since you could cut off a monster's tail and then switch to hammer and break their face now.
>So it's nothing more than further casualization.
Not an argument.

>>380454964
well, all these autists are angry over something

>>380455184

I'm happy for you, will be enjoying the game on my rig too.

But at the same time, I don't see why we should exclude the people who liked and supported the games on their 240p devices and helped get the series to the point where they thought a western focused game would be viable. Now it'd be one thing if people were screaming for NEW games in place of World, but XX already exists man. There's literally no reason we shouldn't get it here in the States/EU

>>380455184
>posting shitty plebbit memes
Fuck off

>>380455184
>normie nigger likes normie casualized MH on the nigger console
Sounds about right

>>380455281
what the fuck

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>>380455281
>Sony Ponies WILL defend this

>>380455281
2nd day and the casualizations are getting confirmed.

>>380455486
>Except when you play missions with random monster appearances, you mean.
Yeah no. You prepare for the main monster of the hunt and whatever else appears is extra. Preparation demands knowing the monster well and whatever the environment can throw at you, that includes possible extra monsters which you might not have to kill but have to deal with. Managing the inventory slots is a fundamental part of said preparation and if you deny that it requires knowing the monster, environment or actually learning the game, you never realized what made monster hunter good.
>second point
This is all part of the risk and reward factor of the game. "Deal with monsters in various ways" is not a plus, you should learn how to prepare for the monster and know how to deal with it in the best possible way. That means you need to know the monster well which is a big part of the game. In the same way you choose if you want easier breaks over cut tails or vice versa in your hunt through a risk-reward factor.
>Not an argument.
Removing a layer of complexity or learning curve of the game is casualization in any way you look at it. That and the fact that they are making it for the western audience just shows that they are trying to play it as safe as possible to introduce casual players to a non casual game.

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>>380447359
>>380455281
>free farcaster
>able to change shit mid hunt
>able to use items while walking

My hopes are dashed. Fuck this garbage.

>>380454143
>I'm pissed that Capcom is skipping out on XX's western release
Do you have a source on that?
Or are you just assuming it. Since I think think XX was done by the regular monster hunter team for the most part, so MHW wouldn't effect its release in any way.

>>380447359
So it's monhorizon zero dawn? Why are we excited about this again?

>>380456502
Capcom is shilling MHW too hard and doesn't want people to realize that it's not a traditional MH by releasing XX around the same time.

Their shills are in this very thread, try asking them for clarification.

>>380456502

Capcom employee on Twitter confirmed there are currently no plans.

And it lines up when you look at the release schedule. Released within the next few months it'll be stepping all over Stories, and if released later than that it'll be competing with World and potentially confusing new customers they're trying to bring.

>>380456312
>Managing the inventory slots is a fundamental part of said preparation
This has nothing to do with inventory slots. It's specifically weapons and armour.
>This is all part of the risk and reward factor of the game.
No, it's part of the "grind forever" factor of the game.
>Go kill this monster with a blunt weapon
>Now do it again with a slash weapon
>Or you can do both at once now
If you want to defend the grind you can fuck right off.
>Removing a layer of complexity or learning curve
Grinding is neither of these things.

>>380449397
If it's your first Monster Hunter you won't mind the changes. It's the MH faggots the one that always complain.

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Oh boy. Can't wait for health bars, glowing weak spots, locked on cinematic camera, weightless weapons, microtransactions for buffs, and all the other quality of life changes for the western audience.

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>>380455798
>rig
>console

>>380456718
Handheld monster hunter is Capcoms main source of income at this point, I doubt they will withhold it to protect two side projects.

>>380455281
DROPPED LIKE A FUCKING ROCK

I UPGRADED MY PC FOR THIS

>>380449397
>starting your first MH with a game that isn't even true MH

You might enjoy it, but I'm so sorry for you.

>>380457020
>G-rank is locked behind a season pass
THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING

Capcom seemed very aware of their "hardcore fanbase" at their past business briefings, it's very unlikely they will completely drop the current image of the franchise for a westernized version

So either they have another game in the works, or this won't be half as casual as it's currently being made out to be

>>380447359
Hilarious how /v/ complains about every quality of life improvement. But doing pointless shit is super hardcore so the try hard NEETs need to justify it somehow.

>>380456747
How about addressing all my other points that you need to learn the monster behaviour and know what the environment will throw at you? Also, they mentioned "preparing" they did not specify weapons and armor and even if they didn't, the weapon and armor you choose is an important part of preparation for a hunt.
Being able to change mid hunt is just a very forgiving attitude for a game that did not need such an attitude. You just go in a hunt and midway after realizing you're getting your ass kicked "ops, I guess I didn't prepare well for what awaited me, let's go to the camp and change".
By the way did you forget that you can break a part without a blunt weapon? You just have to hit it more times with a sharper slash weapon or use something like blast element. OR BOMBS. See how there are many options available to you despite the fact that you're allowed to use one weapon? There's your risk reward. Choosing to have an easier break = no tail carve.

>>380457020
What's the point of this hyperbolic posting? You already know that most of this isn't true if you watched the trailer.

>>380447359
>weapon change mid hunt
this is going to be a very very toxic community online

>>380456636
No Monster Hunter fan is, people just pretend it's good for the sake of shitposting and console warring.

>>380447359
>it's Street Fighter V all over again
>people will defend it because muh console war
>even though it's a fucking multiplat
Hopefully Capcom will try again with a proper PC Monster Hunter game after this trash inevitably flops.

>>380457160

In Japan? Yes.

In America? Monster hunter, even portable, is niche as fuck. Now that they've got a new Monster Hunter that's looking to make that AAA money, I could easily see Capcom not bothering to bring portable MH to the west anymore.

And given how they're treating XX, that looks to be the case.

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>lore monsters
>lore

>>380457457
You can't blame console kids without hyperbole.
Except the Season Pass shit, it won't be like that but you can bet your ass there will be one.

>MH3 and 4 babbys crying about casualization
my sides

>>380457359
They lie and lie and lie and yet you believe them.

They hate us and they've always hated us. They want the CoD audience, good cucks who'll buy anything.

I'm placing 50 bucks on them revamping the armor system to be more "casual friendly"

>>380457020
>Can't wait for health bars
Confirmed to not happen but damage numbers are confirmed
>Glowing weak spots
Entirely possible but at the moment not confirmed.
>Locked on cinematic camera
Doesn't look like it, but I wouldn't trust an announce trailer to confirm that.
>Weightless weapons
We see the hunter do the uppercut/backwards swing with his GS in the trailer, so hopefully that indicates the movesets plus their weight are retained
>microtransactions for buffs
This isn't a mobage.

2/5 ain't so bad.

>>380457605
And yet those fags say all the time how impossible it is to go back to the older games after tasting the casualization of the newer ones.

>>380457050
?

>day 1 pirate
>pirating ps4 and box one games
is that even posible?

>>380457378
>How about addressing all my other points that you need to learn the monster behaviour and know what the environment will throw at you?
Those have literally nothing to do with being able to change your equipment, so why bother?
>Also, they mentioned "preparing" they did not specify weapons and armor
So you didn't even read the OP.
>See how there are many options available to you despite the fact that you're allowed to use one weapon?
So why is allowing you to change weapon the only bad thing?

You just keep saying "you have to prepare", as though most people don't just play with two or three weapon types in the first place.

>>380457812
>*also on PC

>>380447359
The only ones "excited" about this trainwreck are those console war shitposters parroting that Nintendo lost the exclusivity.

>>380457812
Nobody knows, there's never been anything worth pirating. Including this.

>>380457910
I'm glad Nintendo didn't join in this debacle.

Almost feels like Sony is trying to permanently ruin MH as vengeance.

Why does "catering to the west" always ruin everything?

>>380457615
But this isn't something that was directed at the audience, it was something directed at the people financing capcom, lying to them about the core audience is simply retarded

>>380447359
I love MH this doesn't sound that bad at all. Excited to see what it actually looks like

>>380457615
>buys the same game every year
>complains about people who buy the same game every year
really fired up my almonds

NOW YOU KNOW TO NEVER USE THE POWER OF THE MONKEY'S PAW. THE EFFECTS ARE TOO GREAT.

>>380458119
Yeah, but

They'll probably contact the Yakuza to kill them if they came clean about this

>Hey, you know all that money we're making for you? Fuck that!

>>380458098

Because the vast majority of western gamers have terrible taste, and unironically buy watered down, mediocre games from publishers like EA, Ubisoft, and Activision on a regular basis.

>>380449386
This. Also, they ALWAYS adapt monsters around the new mechanics. (With exception of X/XX which wasn't main team). This game is going to be great.

>>380457513
If there's no announcement today by Nintendo then I'm just giving up on the franchise as I knew it. Might even skip worlds since Capcom has been pulling some really shitty moves recently

>>380457301
Instead of in a different game that comes out 2 years later? Sounds good.

>>380457237
>so sorry he gets to play a modern monster hunter instead of Archaic Mechanics: The Game

It's okay, you won't be missed.

>instead of always needing to bring a cheap farcaster with you at all times, there is now a menu option to bring you back
The horror. Truly this is the death of the series. How often did you even need to go back to the campsite anyway? Once per mission? Could it be that this news is meaningless before figuring out what other kind of changes have been made to the core gameplay? Could it be that people are just looking for any opportunity to scream the sky is falling?

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The people defending this piece of shit are completely delusional. Probably children that never played a hardcore game in their lives.

>>380458453
proof that mhw is mh for people who don't like mh

there you got it boys

>>380457605

/v/ bitches endlessly about fan bases not being able to accept change. Using mhw as an example

But all the fans were on board ( other then visuals maybe) going from 2 to 3 to 4u.

That's because it kept all the good shit you fucking faggot. Difficulty alone means nothing.

T. Somebody who has played since ps2 and fucking hates you

>>380458328
But this is literally not true

most of the monsters in 4 could barely handle the non flat terrain

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>>380455798
>being this butthurt about the real MH5

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>>380447359
>forgetting what a farcaster is
I swear the people bitching didn't play a single MH game

>>380452880
>also on pc
>also on xbox

>>380447359

>been playing since MHFU

>Only issue being changing armor and weapons

>implying that it's not an intelligent move to have different equipment to adjust to the situation.

I can't lie, I love, LOVE the great sword but there are so many times where I was in the great sword grove but a beast randomly shows up that would beg for the hammer, which is best weapon-fu.

>>380447359
Might as well get butthurt that MHW won't be 240p with subhuman 3DS controls. This alone will make the game incredibly easy to play.

>>380458453
2 is still literally the only good game in the series. It fucking baffles me how people in this thread are complaining about casualization while they're mounting monsters and shit

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>>380458527
>Monster Hunter
>Hardcore

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>>380457372
Videogames are all about overcoming every possible bullshit thrown at you.
It's not "quality of life improvements", it's about you and most of the fags around being hopeless retards.

>>380458351
Bye. It's about time we lose the mouthbreathing elitists in the community.

>>380458527
>MH
>hardcore
This series is literally for 12 year olds in Japan.

>>380455094
You didn't explain WHY it's a bad thing
You're just mad because MUH CHANGES :''(((((((((

>>380456075
>>380456156
>>380456208
>>380456471
>>380457210
Standing still and flexing for five seconds so that the monster can run you over is somehow better?

Jesus, how much asshurt is there going to be from Nintendo fags if this actually ended up being really good? They're already this assblasted from a trailer that had no combat gameplay at all.

>>380458656
A farcaster doesn't allow you to change your equipment and can be only carried one at a time. It's like you autists are trying to act retarded.

>>380458843
Having to plan WHEN to use a potion is part of the challenge you moron

>>380458656
>farcaster
>Weapon and armour change MID HUNT

Fucking idiot defender squad babbies

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>>380447359
>You can change equipment mid-hunt
Why do they have to ruin every game series? I hope Japan lights them up for this. They're our only hope. That and western apathy could kill this new direction.

HAHAHAHAHAHA
>It won't be casualized they said
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>380458790
This is only for people who don't do anything actually challenging in life. If you have a challenging life you want a game without any bullshit mechanics to make it more tedious.

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>>380458756
>>380458810
Can't all be as punishing and complex as Bloodborne

>>380447629
Elderdragons would be piss easy if you could infinitely use a farcaster.

>>380458893
so? you wont powerwalk away from that monster that's chasing you

>>380455559
From what I understand Sony paid off Capcom just so MHW wouldn't be on Switch. It's kind of petty once you realize it only means the PS4 will be the worst platform to get the game on now.

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>>380455281
>>380456075
>>380458893
>>380456156
>>380456208
>>380456471
>>380457210

>Bloodborne does this
>/v/: what a great hardcore game!!!

>Monhun does this
>/v/: Fucking casualized western garbage!!!

Can't make this shit up... Stay mad until you have a seizure and die, faggots. MH fans rejoice, this game is gun be gud.

>>380458840
Are you retarded?

>>380458843
Yeah man, while they're at it, why have hitzones at all? Why make the player have to plan before doing something? Just give them that quality of life improvement and remove them entirely.

>All these sonybros pretending they care about MH
You idiots aren't going to buy this and you know it.

>>380459003
MH is what got me into law school because it taught me to be persistent and appreciative of a challenge

Before a case I usually play a 10 minute hunt to get pumped up

>>380458893
You still need to plan WHEN to use potions. Now you get to slowly walk while you use them, which will likely still fuck you over if used at the wrong time.

>>380458616
They worked just fine. MH4U was the most difficult game in the series.

>>380459071
>MH fans rejoice
What did he mean by this?

Farcaster has existed forever

Gear change mid hunt probably has something to do with the fact that there's an actual ecosystem now and more than 1 monster type is capable of fucking up your hunts.

>>380459071
>MH fans rejoice
I can tell you're a console war shitposter from here. Quit pretending to like MH.

>>380457882
I had read the OP and other sources but never really seen any specifying that it was just equipment. Either way if you can't change anything apart from equipment then my bad, but that doesn't change the fact that everyone uses different armors for different monsters with different behaviours and environments. As I said, different monsters live in different environments and you have to take that into account while choosing the equipment and of course you have to know your main target when you choose your equipment. Elemental resistances obviously matter and if you should take a safer weapon or a more offensive one depends on how well you know the monster.
>So why is allowing you to change weapon the only bad thing?
It's not the only bad thing, but it removes challenge or preparation knowledge nonetheless.
>You just keep saying "you have to prepare", as though most people don't just play with two or three weapon types in the first place.
Yes, and how is this related? Everyone might be better with a certain weapon against one monster but maybe they prefered another weapon against another monster. There you go, you need to prepare and choose the weapon you are most comfortable with against a certain monster. If you just use one weapon for everything, then this doesn't even affect you apart from the armor which is, once again, something you have to choose wisely considering the possible circumstances of the hunt.

I don't understand how you can deny that preparation for a hunt has always been an important aspect of the series. Depending on how well one prepares can change the outcome for the hunt for two different same skilled hunters. And removing a layer of complexity or being forgiving for a mistake in this part is simple casualization.

>>380447359
Wait.. Couldn't you do that anyway with that smoke thing?
We haven't even seen gameplay yet chill the fuck out.

>>380459104
>running to another zone to heal is ""planning""

>>380459192
XX has the hardest endgame quests and monsters while 4U has the most tedious endgame unlocks.

So yes, in that sense it's the hardest. I played one GQ up to like 115 before giving up.

>>380459115
Monster Hunter sold better on PSP than on 3DS. You got your chance and you failed.

>>380459173
>things that didn't happen: the story

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Reminder that
>you can use heavybowgun while moving
>you can use items while moving
>you can fast travel so hunt prep doesn't make a difference
>no sign of timer whatsoever
>drop in drop out co-op so all hunts will be designed with 1 player in mind, and there's no penalty for dying since you can just leave and come back

Why are you faggots defending these things?

>optional tactics
>muh franchise gatekeeper
Please continue to cry.

>>380456679
>>380454143
>MHXX/Generations
>traditional MH
>not casual baby trash with bullshit anime supermoves
I'm so glad Nintendildos don't get to play MH anymore. Enjoy your casualised spinoff.

>>380459329
PSP is a handheld.

Good luck with the new main MH game being on zero handhelds. I'm sure Japan will buy 5 million copies of it.

>>380458843
It's to punish you for using items stupidly, you have to find a window to use them if you want to heal during a fight.

>>380459238
>>380459198

I have all the consoles and PC. What's your point? You babies are just upset that you can't throw your epeens around anymore on the internet. Just keep playing the "hard" games.

>>380459334
I see you've managed to disprove my existence using nothing as foundation.

Arguing on /v/ is an exercise in futility.

>>380458453
Could you be any more obvious of a shill?
How much is Sony paying you to shit on the old Monster Hunter games?

>>380458843
Not having to commit to anything, be it weapon selection, armour skills, or opportunities to heal or use buffing items, is garbage. It does absolutely nothing but make the game easier. Weapon animations seem to be the same, but we've only seen a little. Even if they've left the actual combat intact, it leaves a bad taste in the mouth. I don't have a lot of faith in the game right now, but I'm not completely disowning it until we've seen the whole thing. If monsters are incredibly aggressive, making the pace of the fights more frantic, then quicker healing might be okay. But so far there's no reason for me to believe that'll be the case.

>>380459173
So you are so casual that you didn't play anything challenging and overwhelming before Monster Hunter.

Fast travel always existed in the form of Farcaster. There is no confirmation "fast travel" isn't just Farcaster.

Being able to change weapons and armor mid hunt is reasonable. The game is open world now and one of the key features is you will run into more than just the monster you are hunting. Preparation has always been an important part of the game, but you cannot prepare for random events.

>>380459059

If that's the way it is, that's the way it is. I'll just play it on PC, because I like Monster Hunter regardless of platform even though I'd prefer it be portable.

I still don't see the logic behind Capcom fucking over 3DS/Switch players that have been supporting them over the last few years as far as bring XX over is concerned though. Maybe I'm just an entitled manbaby gamer, but I think they at least owe them that for making the last few titles modest hits here in the USA/EU.

>Wow dark souls 2 letting you move while healing is so stupid, it takes away all the challenge
>OH GOD I LOVE THAT I CAN HEAL NOW WHILE MOVING IN MonHun GIVE ME MORE

A team or not, this shit is being causualized hard for the west. They totally expect it to bomb in Japan so they're not even going after the Japanese audience at this point.

Why the fuck are people pretending that "Fast travel to campsite for armor and weapon change mid hunt" means "Free fast travel as much as you want to completely restock"?

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>>380459018
And yet western babies can't handle it, really makes the hamster run.

>>380459326
>He is so shit at the game he goes into another area to heal
Kek

>>380459470
>I have all the consoles and PC
So you're just retarded? Ok then.

>>380459417
This is their first legit attempt on big consoles so I don't worry at all. Japan doesn't even play video games, they are just fucking around with handhelds and mobile games.

>>380459497
Nothing that challenging, no. Battletoads came close during some parts, and I always loved Gradius and 2hu even though they're not very complex.

Whatever game you're thinking of as more hardcore than MH probably doesn't even rank in my top 10.

Im just glad we're getting a MH on PC.

Was kinda bored of emulating the same MH over and over.

>>380454350
It wasn't an exclusive but I do hope he ate his own shit. I've been wishing that on a lot of the fanbase since the announcement, the infantile backlash has been ridiculous.

I can't believe these people who were only shown new mechanics and believe the base monster hunter gameplay has been gutted actually call themselves fans of this franchise. Look at the Monster Hunter Generations trailer, look at the Monster Hunter 4 trailer, look at the Tri trailer, they NEVER focus on gameplay in the trailers. It's always the new fucking mechanics.

How ridiculously stupid do you have to collectively be as a fanbase to shitpost all over /v/ for a trailer that follows a franchise-long pattern for how they reveal each game? I put 1500 hours in since Freedom Unite, and I hope this is the best game in the franchise. Nothing they've shown so far has given me any reason to doubt them yet.

Just don't fast travel then? It's not like the game is going to force you to change equipment mid-battle.
>B-but that won't stop people from doing it online!
Maybe don't play with randoms then if it bothers you that much?

>>380459537
Except literally no one ever said the first thing

>>380447359
>Day 1 buy turned into a day 1 pirate.
That's exactly why Capcom choose to release the PC version at a later date

>>380459059
>>380459526
MHW G will obviously be on Switch
Like 90% of the Monhun audience in Japan is handheld only. They're not going to just abandon them outright permanently, they'll just announce a G version as quickly as possible after the game is out.

>>380459239
>It's not the only bad thing, but it removes challenge or preparation knowledge nonetheless.
Literally How?

>Before World,
>don't bring right gear
>hit reset button and bring right gear

>After World,
>don't bring right gear
>go back to camp and change gear

You have NEVER been forced to be "prepared".

>>380459673
>I don't worry at all
>Crapcoms franchises that are far more popular than Monster Hunter like SFV and Resident Evil sold poorly stateside
>A niche title like Monster Hunter is going to sell well

>>380459719
>J-Just ignore the flaws!

>people forgetting what a farcaster is
>people forgetting that XX has a feature where you can literally have items delivered to you mid-quest
This is just a bunch pointless whining

>>380459329
The MH audience owned a PSP for MH, those that stuck around instead of switching to phones migrated over to 3DS no problem. MHW is going to crash and burn. Consoles are dead in Japan, and the west doesn't care about anything that doesn't contain shooting or sports.

ITT:

>"Hey guys I'm totally an ancient MH fan with 5000 hours in each title, MH World on the PS4 Pro looks amazing! Can't wait to play this, finally MH is home baby! So glad to see this game change for the better and get rid of all its clunkyness and annoying difficulty, this looks awesome! Sony won"

>>380447359
So what?
>my weapon doesn't feel right for this fight
>i'll go change and try something else
>in other MH have to restart, load times, change, load times, refight just because you picked the wrong weapon
The monster will most likely recover it's HP and you have to find it again. Unless you have an armor skill or painted it or any of the other things you morons think they took out of the game.

>>380459408

The ADDITION of optional anime super moves does not negate the fact that it is a relatively straightforward Monster Hunter release.

Where as World, for better or worse depending on which camp you fall in, is objectively changing many core things in the name of making the game more accessible.

XX is closer to a traditional Monster Hunter game than World. Which could end up being a good thing, but still.

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>>380459710
So how much casualiztion is too much?

Is there a limit?

>>380459480
And you proved your foundation using what exactly? Where is any of the proof of what you claim to be?

>>380459071
I'm also one of the people that said BB was a bit too easy. Casuals ruin literally everything I enjoy. Fuck off

>>380459683
Any competitive game is more hardcore than Monster Hunter. Nice revealing though that you never took up an actual challenge and just played your safe environment coop faggotry.

>>380459829
Did you say the same thing when Tri came out?

Just curious.

>>380459787
You can't reset online, at least not without getting kicked later.

>>380459851
Well what the fuck else are you going to do about it? It should have been obvious this game wasn't going to be made with hardcore MH players in mind.

>>380459494
>enjoy games
>shill
Sorry your so mad about playing games, anon. Maybe you should find a new hobby.

>>380459059
Sony doesn't like competition. They're also the only console that doesn't have cross play in Minecraft, no doubt because they want everyone on their ecosystem.

>>380459059
Well the Switch is getting XX in about two months in Japan. It isn't a big loss for Nintendo. Real monster hunter fans will get both anyway. Sony fags want to make a console war over a mole hill.

>>380459719
>just ignore the damage numbers
>just ignore the guide lights in your face
>just ignore grapple hook qtes
>just ignore being able to regear during hunts as often as you want
>just ignore being able to walk while drinking potions
>just ignore no longer being able to play as a prowler

>>380455169
Preperation, as in looking at guides online, and seeing what armor sets were best for what. I'm glad they're streamling shit a bit. I hope they also add a proper upgrade chart for weapons, as well as in game guides for where to find certain bugs and items and shit. Make the grind less grindy. MH was in dire fucking need of some streamlining. The core of the game is the combat, not the autistic bullshit you gotta do to have fun.

That shit was cool when it was a niche portable title, but now that it's going mainstream, it needs various QoL updates.

If I ever wanna go back to the autistic grind, I can always go back to FU, 3U, and 4U. All of them fine games, but let the series change ffs.

>>380459759

Another portable Monster Hunter eventually happening is a given.

The concern is that they won't bother to bring it over in favor of their new MHW series of games catered to the west.

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>>380459637
>being poor
Well, I mean, if that's your argument then okay I guess.

>>380459470
Their point is you are not a MH fan.

>>380455281
Nice. Hopefully you can pause the game completely to heal and sharpen your weapon through the menu.

>>380459958
https://www.gamespot.com/forums/nintendo-fan-club-1000001/monster-hunter-tri-sales-considered-sluggish-27401917/

:^)

This is the part where you go into full blown damage control.

>>380459914
Cogito ergo sum

>>380459958
Tri received a lot of backlash for not being as hard as MHFU, P3rd even more so. Before 3U I was on the verge of abandoning the franchise altogether.

>>380459958
>Comparing Tri, a game that was released on the best selling console of all time to MHW releasing on some of the weakest consoles to date

>>380459829
Capcom will be happy enough if it sells more than the Monster Hunter handheld games in the west.

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>>380459829
>>Crapcoms franchises that are far more popular than Monster Hunter like SFV and Resident Evil sold poorly stateside

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>90% of all MH sales are in Japan
>Japan only plays MH on handhelds

>Capcom: "Hey, I know, I'll put the new main MH on zero handhelds"

>>380460009
>Well what the fuck else are you going to do about it?
Complain and not buy?

>>380460071
Where does it say that fast traveling is unlimited?

I just wanted MHXX for the switch. Goddamnit. I'm gonna play World when it comes to the PC, but I really fucking hope they are going to bring XX over.

>>380459890
We don't know to what extent it's casualized yet. Considering everything's one area it could be very hard to get back to the base camp, and being able to travel there through farcaster would be no different than any other MH. I don't mind the glowing shit, considering this is next gen and there was a huge amount of flora on display in the trailer it might be necessary so that the player knows what they can interact with (though personally I don't like that kinda stuff myself).

I don't quite like the thing they showed that people can drop in and out, but whatever, nothing to get angry about. I felt like the games have mostly become easier, but I hope something like that might encourage them to up the difficulty a bit.

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>>380459972
Are you seriously arguing that it's somehow more challenging online? In the one place where it's nothing but shitty people being carried? Where monsters die faster than all fuck because of being gangbanged? Yeah, that REALLY helped your argument, anon.

>>380459881
>XX is closer to a traditional Monster Hunter game than World. Which could end up being a good thing, but still.
No it's not. It was taking the franchise in the wrong direction and turning it into Frontier-tier bullshit. I was literally about to drop the franchise for good after Generations. I'm glad it's going back and returning to form.

>>380460232
What's even funnier is this
>World is made for the Western audience
>the E3 trailer has 300k views

>>380460052

But English speaking players arn't getting XX. That's the problem. We're the ones being tossed in the bin in this scenario.

Japanese players get their portable game.

Casual Amerifats and Console Drones get world.

The western players who have been supporting the series for years now get nothing.

>>380460152
>Sharpening

Anon, I...

>>380459239
You say this like there's only one viable weapon for each monster, which just isn't the case. Literally the only thing that's important about weapon choice is whether you have a slash or blunt weapon for the parts you can get out of them.

>>380460281
arekzz confirmed it during his dev interview at e3

>>380460071
Damage numbers can be turned off

>>380460071
>Can be turned off
>Scout Flies are an item
>Hook can only be used in certain points
>when you go change your gear quest ends
>you can use items while moving but not potions
>No one even used it

>>380460174
>implying on the Wii anything sold except for nintendo games and party games

>>380455281
It'll probably just slow you to a crawl when you drink a potion but hey the ""fans"" will grasp at any straws they can to bitch about the slightest bit of change.

>>380460071
Did I say anything about ignoring damage numbers or using potions while walking? No, I fucking didn't because you really can't ignore them, but again, there is nothing forcing you to go back to camp to restock.

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Casualization or not, newcomers will dip as soon as they have to do gathering quests. Which is 80% of the first quests.

Community is going to be more cancerous than the current one.
>What's an armor skill?
>I have 4 points in stealth, ain't that enough?

>>380460232
What part of the whole "aiming for the Western audience" do you not understand?

>>380447359
>Fast travel to campsite for armor and weapon change mid hunt

They are killing the franchise

>>380460167
So anecdotal evidence. Okay, thanks.

>>380460365
>literally being wrong
yes you can use pots while moving

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>>380460232
WE DIDN'T KNOW NINTENDO'S NEXT CONSOLE WOULD BE A FUCKING PORTABLE 4 YEARS AGO

HOW ABOUT A HEAD'S UP NEXT TIME GODDAMN IT

>>380460361
Source

You know what would be great on top of all this shit?

DLC Monster packs for the low low price of $9.99!

>>380460232
They will make this push for the west, it will flop hard because Monster Hunter is not that popular among normies, even when they dumb it down as much as they can specifically for them, and then Sony will use whatever they can to release MHWG on the Vita in order to get back those handheld sales that the series thrives from.
The Vita anon will get what he has always wanted soon.

>>380460232
yeah they're trying to appeal to the west

>>380447359
PC will safe Monster Hunter.

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Good. If the maps are bigger I don't want to slowly lug my ass to the campsite just to swap items.
You're seriously dumb as fuck if you think QoL improvements are casualization.

>>380457615
You've turned it straight into identity politics

Fucking hell

>>380460510
That's a fair deal, usually MH expansion packs are sold as entirely new games

>>380460167
And 3U didn't even get harder. In fact, it gave 50 free defense and had Slime/Kelbi Bow. Wow, so you must really like casual shit.

>>380460446
>300k views on youtube
they are going to ask for ryozo head.

>>380460446
>>380460541
I didn't know "aiming for the western audience" meant "completely abandon to Japanese audience"

Bold move by Capcom desu considering japan and MH is all that kept them alive to begin with and is where 90% of their MH sales are.

>>380460508
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL1v_AXeBZE

Who even cares? Since most of us will get it on PC and it's coming after consoles we can see if it's a shit game or not when consolecucks beta test it for us.

>>380460021
Man, I don't think your supervisor would like you insulting potential sales.

>>380460603
I don't set the game to Easy mode.

>>380460565
Yeah just remove the flexing, the difficulty and the skill ceiling, all quality improvements! Sony always wins baby!

>>380460356
are you cuntingly shitting me

where does it say they removed that?

>>380459945
>BB easy
>Didn't play DLC
>Didn't play the game
Well, now I know your shitposting.

My main thing is I wish they would stop calling your Felyne buddies Palicoes. I hate the term.

>>380460338
>Less views than Metroid 3DS
>Less views than Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga 3DS
>Less views than the new Yoshi Switch game
>Less views than the new Kirby game
>Is competing for views with the Switch trailer for Fate/Extella of all things

It's going to be FINE.

>>380460359
>You say this like there's only one viable weapon for each monster
No, that couldn't be farther from what I said. I said
"Everyone might be better with a certain weapon against one monster but maybe they prefered another weapon against another monster."
Meaning different players are better with one weapon vs a monster and better with another weapon vs another monster. What you're facing matters and you have to prepare accordingly.
>>380460087
Well I disagree that this is QoL and imo it is clearly a change that dumbs down the game. This isn't even about the grind, this is about having everything available to you but choosing accordingly so you deal with the hunt in the best possible manner.

>>380460159
yeah, that was back when Crapcom literally had every game with a "wan mirrion units sord" goal that they never achieved for anything but kept pushing anyway. Fact is, Tri popularized MH in the West.

>>380460167
Maybe but that wasn't my point at all

>>380460174
The weakest consoles that everyone has. Wii U/Switch are the unpopular ones this time around. And still missing the point.

>>380460740
The new item menu in the demo is a dial with items. No items were sharpstones.

>>380447359
For someone who loved 3U this is great since I stopped playing after 3U because the Monster Hunter games are all pure rehashed games that are all the same after you played one. A fresh Monster Hunter is a godsend. The people who love a rehashed Monster Hunter experience get XX so all is good.

>>380460727
>Sony
The game is a multiplat you faggot.
Also I still have yet to see legitimate casualization. Every point that gets shat on is a QoL improvement thus far save for that fairy dust thing or whatever, which I can only guess is to track the monster

>>380459637
not that guy, but heres a short story
>fight furious rajang
>the caravan, G-rank one
>have to heal
>not given any breathing room
>have to go to other area to heal, or face carting

yeah, thats just being smart, and not a total fucking retard.

it makes me wonder if you are a france dwelling parasite

>>380460151
>No true scotsman
Well I played all the games for a total of over 2000 hours. Believe what you want. Doesn't make any of these whiners anymore correct.

>>380460795
>What you're facing matters and you have to prepare accordingly.
Yeah, because you have to decide whether you want a tail cut or break items.

>>380460906
>quality of life improvement
>no longer have to look for openings to use items, can use them while walking

yeah

not casualization at all

All these complaints about it being casualized are stupid. It would obviously be an issue if they retained the old formula, but they're changing some things significantly which requires additional QoL tweaks.
>You can change your armors at base camp!
It'll probably take you ~20-30 minutes to return to the city and change armors otherwise assuming you run straight back. This just gets rid of useless padding.
>You can fast travel though!
It isn't going to be like the Friday the 13th game where any specified point on the map can be teleported to. You'll probably have to find a base camp or some other marker out in the field to use it. Not only that, but I doubt monsters and other things placed will retain their position from when you left either. People worried about this are legitimately brain-damaged or are trying to make things sound worse than they really are. This shit is a good thing now that huge maps exist.

Literally drones crying sour grapes because this is confirmed to be the next mainline entry and it isn't on their Shitch. Better luck next time I suppose?

>>380460338
It has 2 million views. Are you mentally challenged?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe-RAeDfOMM

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>>380460232
>>380460338
And here's the part where you two idiots get totally BTFO.
>b-but Japan will hate it cause it's not portable
Japan only trailer
1.9 million views
overwhelmingly positive reception from the nips

Eat shit Nintendildos. Tell me, how many copies of XX were sold in Japan? What about X? What about 4G?

From the looks of things, it seems to me the majority of the Japanese MH fanbase will be buying a PS4. They don't have a problem with it not being portable.

Only Nintendo fans seem to be pissed it's not coming to Switch.

>>380460338
>World is made for the Western audience
>300k burgviews
>1.9m chingviews
WHAT DOES IT MEAN!?

>>380460565
>literally 2 free out of jail cards like grapple and stealth cape or bushes
>no more think before recovering sine no felxing and can move while drinking eating.
>prep mean little when you can go to your base anytime.

this QoL change a lot the flow of the game and objective of MH. It is worrying for many, and god knows what combat changes they did.

This game actually looks interesting in vacuo, and who cares what 3DS shitters think. Even if it is not an authentic MH title I would play it for the setting alone, however it looks to be everything good about MH with some streamlining for broader appeal. Only switchfags can be mad about this seeing as they will never play it.

>>380449397
same. :^)

>>380459958
Tri sold like dogshit for Monhun man, especially in Japan where it barely broke a million for a series that was breaking 4 million sales with the last game in Japan. The thing is, it was mass marketed to hell. The deal with Nintendo had them market the shit out of Monster Hunter in Japan and the west for Tri, yet it STILL sold like shit compared to psp stuff.

Capcom also has not been able to get any ground to stand on in 8th gen either. Resident Evil VII and Street Fighter V are some of their worst selling games in the franchises ever, even with all the marketing and free publicity they got.
A lot of devs are having this problem too. The only sales that are up for 8th gen are some sports games, COD, Battlefield, PS4 exlusives (because of the Xbox fans that went with PS4 this gen) and Fallout. Everywhere else, every other multiplat franchise sales are down by a shit ton.
Monster Hunter World will, at the very very very most sell 3 million copies world wide across all platforms, and that's if it somehow hits 2 million in the west (very unlikely) and 1 million in Japan (unlikely but possible).
MH4's Japan only sales will outsell MHW's worldwide sales. In a worst case scenario, MHW will sell less than 2 million worldwide. No matter what it was a stupid move on Capcom's part and Sony must have given them a shit ton to do it.

>>380460345
>The western players who have been supporting the series for years now get nothing.
I think XX is coming to the the west. Capcom just didn't want to confuse people revealing two different monster hunters at the same time. Give it a couple of months. If push comes to shove the Switch is not region locked.

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>>380460338
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXB2IHLm4m0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe-RAeDfOMM

I don't get it why Nintendo "fans" are pissed. 3DS/2DS costs dirt cheap.

>>380461021
>It'll sell well

:^)

>>380460232
Their target is the West with this Monster Hunter so console and more importantly PC is key to the success. Honestly though the reception it got at the conference is not exactly a confidence booster.

Everyone is either mad, anxious, or blindly jubilant. its already having a huge negative effect on the fanbase as they think "westernization" is the cursed code word for a low quailty product.

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Why monster hunter have to change their mechanics to appeal to a western audience?

Dark souls is now full of normies and everyone praises how hard is the game

Knowing that the core gameplay is the same theres no reason for the people that not like the games to like them now

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>>380460959
>Only 2000 hours

Oh child. How innocent you are.

I have +6 saves played from new game to end on every MH game ever made, except G, Freedom and Freedom 2.

I BEAT DOS

SIX TIMES

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BEAT DOS SIX TIMES

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>>380460715
>projecting
Stay mad. I'm enjoying these elitists tears.

>>380460949
>Can't heal vs Rajang of all things
You might be the Frenchie

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>>380460797
>Switch is the unpopular one this time around
Oh, is that why it's breaking sales records and flying off shelves 3 months after release?
Capcom is going to come crawling back to Switch when World bombs.

I'm fine with games being casualized to a point. So long as it's not that spiderman qte bullshit. Im getting older and don't have time to master games and their dumb time wasting mechanics. I'd like to play monster hunter with my friend without dedicating my life to it. They should keep a more hardcore version for you whiny babies to play too though.

>>380459710
its literally just console war babies and underage like it always is.
best to just ignore shitthreads like this one.

>>380447359
This has gotten beyond ridiculous at this point. Farcasters still existing and a QoL improvement that cuts out the "whoops equipped the wrong weapon, better quit, change equipment then restart" bullshit is now casual?

I never thought id see soulsfags get overcome, but MH-fags are quickly taking their place as most obnoxious, petty and console-picking starting faggots on this board.

>>380461010
The game will probably slow you to a crawl when you drink a potion, not that much different than standing still for five seconds.

>>380461018
>Original posts talking about the western push
>Posts the jap trailer
Are you?

>>380459003
>Monster Hunter - My little Rath can't be this multicolored: The Visual Novel
>For people with challenging lifes such as myself
Sounds about right. They can slap a big red button "you win!" in the right corner as well.

>>380461018
>>380461021
Reread the post
Then check the US trailer

>>380460720
You didn't have a choice in MH3U. Do you read moonrunes?

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>>380461018
>meanwhile the switch XX trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvzTD_RYDXs

>sub 1mil views after 2 weeks

>3DS is most popular console in Japan
>MH is "casual" game in Japan
muh casual PS4 audience

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>equip change mid hunt

That's fucking fine you faggots. Nothing worse than running out of combines for bow/gun and pelting with garbage shots. Now I can switch weapons, great!

Sounds like multi monster hunts are the norm. The less downtime the better. Less need to go back to hub, less need to leave the zone, you can keep hunting after [Quest Complete], fuck it sounds like a comfier version of expeditions.

If anything this encourages people to make more specific armor sets. Again, less downtime = more hunting. It's win/win.

Every one of you complain like spoiled novices. None of these changes even remotely alter the "core" hunting experience. No one's making you even switch armor sets mid hunt. It's a convenient quality of life improvement that gives you more variety while out on the field. Fanfuckingtastic. You should all be ecstatic about this shit

>>380461064
yeah bro, its not like they don't have computers and use the internet and post on a Tibetan painting chatrooms

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>MH is a Nintendo exclusive
>Mh threads are chill, friendly and helpful

>MH is on the PS4 and PC
>5 consecutive simultaneous threads of console warrning and shitposting, baiting and people being rude to one another

As an outside observer I can't help but laugh
Literal reverse Midas

>could put MHW on the Switch as well and cater to the handheld crowd in Japan, which is huge
>don't do it

capcom hates money
I'd understand if sony had a new handheld and they put it there, but no, mhw just straight up won't be on ANYTHING portable.

What were they thinking?

>>380460959
>Well I played all the games for a total of over 2000 hours
Like you can talk, my dad works in monster hunter so i think i have a better say for the future of the game than you

>>380461320
>expecting actual fans to be in this thread and not console war children
kek

>>380461362
>>380461359
>jap sales wont matter

>>380461258
It's not going to bomb this time around with muh western HD graphics. All they have to do is market it as Dark Souls with dinosaurs.

>>380461239
>Have more playtime therefore I'm the True fan.
Oh dear.

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ITT:
>Casualization is okay since it's coming to my platform and feeds my console war shitposting

>>380461109
Released in a couple of months, and it will eat into Stories' sales.

Released a few months after that, and it will be competing with World.

And after World it will probably be deemed irrelevant by Capcom.

That's the problem. A summer release date, similar to what we got with Generations, was really the only window to put it out there. If we don't have it by like August/early September, we arn't getting it. That leaves them very little time to announce, market, and promote the release if it's happening at all.

And given they've officially stated there's no plans yet...

>>380461360
Sorry, I don't speak weeb.

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>>380461050
>2 get out of jail free cards
You have to make sure the specific location you're in can allow for them, no? It's not like some Spider Man shit where it sticks to open air and can zip you out of literally any situation
>no flexing
Okay fuck off, that's an utter bullshit way of making item usage more difficult. I could accept it if it actually took a while to drink it but the flex was a dumb as shit way of prolonging your vulnerability
>go to your base anytime
And you still need to walk back to where the monster is. Hell, do we even know if they'll let you fast travel while you're next to the target monster? Regardless it's not like you can teleport in between the two areas instantly with no downtime.
I could see your complaints and woes being valid if every melee weapon was as dumbed down and HACKY SLASHY as dual blades but that's not the case. These are so far genuine improvements and they could easily balance out the alleviated difficulty by adding more genuine gimmicks that bring a genuine and smooth challenge.

>>380459501
>open world
it's not though

>>380461607
He says while playing post MHFU MH games.

>>380459398
because fuk nintenbronies lmao

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Why western "fans" of everything are always retarded?

>>380461106
Everything you said seems like it has more to do with the rough and sudden transition Capcom had to make after Sony gave MH the fuck off stick. They fucking panicked and tried really hard to establish "MH is on Nintendo now" and if I remember right the general reaction was "That's fucking stupid, why" and people were unwilling to make the switch.

>>380461570
They don't when this is capcoms push for the fucking western audience, what about that are you not getting?
Its going to flop hard in the west and return to nip land.

>>380461416
Well, mainline is always better. What can you say?

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>>380461362
1.4 million total.

Capcom was beat to the punch by a YouTuber. Sorry buddy, but your cherry picking won't save you now.

>>380461256
>durr theres no such thing as learning how 2 fite rajang hurrr

kill yourself my man

oh and make it quick, so you dont waste more oxygen

>>380459408
>Muh anime supermoves

M8 they're optional you damn moron.
Edit your touchscreen panel to not include them

>>380461785
Literally what did he mean by this?

>>380461442
We don't even have a confirmation on how much you can bring.

Everyone is talking like you can bring literally everything with you but I'm willing to bet that it will let you bring maybe one extra weapon, one or two armour pieces or extra items. It might even turn around and say;

"Oh hey, you wanted to bring some extra potions? A shame you've already chosen a weapon."

>>380461570
>Capcom changes its plans to cater to the West
>the West doesn't care

>>380461701
>if every melee weapon was as dumbed down and HACKY SLASHY as dual blades
Who knows, we get gameplay in a week, i mean they have already made changes to HBG from the looks of things, which i don't like.

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I told you about that slippery slope, bro

Once you let in the casuals, they never leave

>>380461018
>>380461021
thats the japanese trailer. CHekc the american E3 trailer views on sony e3 videos.

>They don't have a problem with it not being portable.
you are under the assumption that view=sells.
>japs are going to buy 1M ps4
the sells of the game will be worse becasue the userbase is not there, the 3ds had the userbase to susatin it.

>>380461598
Oh it will. It's still too hard for westerners. If they couldn't get fucking Street Fighter V to sell over a million on PS4, there's no way they're going to get Monster Hunter to sell over 2 million in the west.

It's impossible for it to go much about a million in Japan though. The extreme majority of Monster Hunter players in Japan only play on handhelds, and they skip gens if they don't like changes or new stuff (like they did with XX). No PS4 game in Japan has sold over a million units, and even FF XIII only managed to sell 1.8 million units on the PS3.

The game is doomed. The west doesn't give a shit and Japan gives even less of one.

>>380461861
>has to count two videos at one
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH it's okay, kid. it's okay.

>>380462017
You saw those greatsword bits, right?

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>>380461861
>>380461018
>>380460338
>people are so butthurt and devoid of any decency and arguments that they are debating youtube views now

>>380461021
News flash bub Japanese dont buy home consoles you fucking moron.

MH Worlds will tank in JP.

If it's not on Switch, 3DS, Vita or Mobile then it can fuck off in Japan

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>>380461861
>youtuber who has 800,000 subscribers gets 800,000 views + 100,000 people who actually are interested in it gets over 900,000 views

>>380455169
Preparation my ass, multi monster quests pretty much forced you to use raw or blast weapons if monsters didn't share weaknesses. How the fuck does that have anything to do with preparation?
Besides, element is still a noob trap and no good player is going to bother with it, so there's barely a reason to even use the feature in the first place.

>That feel when DQXI will be releasing soon in Japan and will give you a good idea of how poorly MHW will sell

feels good man

>>380461701
>They don't have a problem with it not being portable.
it was a punihsment. you get hit and dont want to waste tme leaving then you need to learn the moster pattern and cure midfight.
>Hell, do we even know if they'll let you fast travel while you're next to the target monster? Regardless it's not like you can teleport in between the two areas instantly with no downtime.
there are more than 1 camp on each area, which makes sens given the teleport.

>>380458748
Why is 2 the only good game? Asking because I'm looking for which one I should emulate

>>380462143
We saw three times he swung with the greatsword, two from ariel and one from mounting, neither of which show off how a greatsword actually plays.

>>380462130
Street fighter V sold like shit because it's an unfinished piece of shit not because it was hard, it's actually quite the opposite, it's far too easy

Monster Hunter was casualized when they started selling potions in stores.

>>380462258
How the hell are DQXI and MHW correlated at all

I like the idea of traps, that's what hunting is all about and surely if you're going to hunt something way bigger and stronger than you, you should use your head, not dodgeroll attacks and hack at its knees. Then again I'm not a MonHun fan, only tried 3 on an emulator and it bored me quickly.

>>380447359
Didnt they kind of already have fast travel though?
I remember being able to jump into like a well and teleporting to other parts of the map.

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Reddit is mad about not having XX

/v/ is defending casualization

And the japanese fanbase is excited despite getting fucked in every orifice

You know, I had a feeling I was living in a timeline where everything is opposite, because I've been usually optimistic lately.

>>380461789
People don't buy console games in Japan you dumb fuck, it's why Monster Hunter was never a popular franchise on the PS2, the best selling console of all time over there, and didn't get popular until it was on the PSP. They thought that popularity would translate to sales on console but it didn't. They moved it over to Wii and it sold like ass. Moved it over to 3DS and the sales were double for Tri G, and the third best it's ever been for 4.

If your argument though is that suddenly switching platforms turned people away, why the fuck do you think it switching to PS4 won't turn them far away in Japan when the PS4 is not a popular console there?

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Fuck you Capcom, I just wanted a PC Monhun that was good and not Frontier/MHO level shit.
Back to emulated P3rd and FU I guess.

>>380461106
You do realize the big difference here is that they announced Tri for PS3 first and then backpedaled right? So everyone had to suddenly get a Wii when no one wanted it. PS4 is doing great everywhere and everyone wants this one.

>>380447359
You can already do this. Only difference is now you can change gear.
Making things better =! casual.

>>380462462
>PS4 version and 3DS version

Surely if the Japanese prefer better graphics over portability it'll outsell the 3DS version, right?

>>380460795
>quest involves three monsters with wildly different weaknesses
>make one weapon to target each weakness and switch between them as you go through the monsters
>or make one raw/blast weapon and ignore weaknesses
Which of these takes more preparation?

>>380462446
This. Farms ruined the value of items. Mega Pots were reserved for major elder dragon hunts only.

>>380462428
I thought it was because of it being some stupid fucking shitty middle ground, it was dumbed down enough that all the veteran players hated it because of how easy it had become and new players still couldn't get into it because of how hard it still is.

>>380462428
And what about Resident Evil VII?
What about pretty much all non AAA shoter / sports franchises?
Again, everything but AAA fps and sports games have seen their sales tank hard for 8th gen.

>>380458717
>not on switch
>pic is a switch fag angry

>Somehow xbox and pc belong to nintendo

are nintenkids retards?

>>380460797
>yeah, that was back when Crapcom literally had every game with a "wan mirrion units sord" goal that they never achieved for anything

You don't follow the news ?
Capcom is still like that, maybe even worse.

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>>380462216
>it's actually 450,000 people that watched it twice
try harder

>>380462258
>Nintendildos are so desperate to see MHW fail they'll latch onto any bit of info they can.

This is gonna be a shit 6+ months wait. Who's the worst fanbase on /v/ again?

Exactly. It's fucking pathetic that you cucks are soo butthurt that you're not getting it that you HAVE to see it fail. For that alone, I hope MHW is a huge success and the franchise never makes it over to Nintendo consoles ever again. You people are petty as fuck. Esp considering how bad Tri, and 3 Ultimate WiiU tanked. You guys don't even LIKE MH.

>>380462530
>the japanese fanbase is excited
Not really, they're pissed it's not on portable.

>>380462565
I'm with you there anon, my next hope is that the wiiU emulator turns out good soon so we can play 3U aswell.

>>380462405
There is clear footage out showing blocking and upswinging and a downslash. Look up the gaemplay footage by Arekks or Gaijin. It's perfectly fine and normal.

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>>380462750
Source would be nice.

Not trying to be an ass, just want to know if Japan is still based.

>>380447359
the monkey paw man, i never asked for this. fuck capcom

>>380460748
I platinumed the game and dlc. Give me your psn and i'll add you and send you a message of choice.
>theres no way someone can bad talk muh precious sony game
Fucking drones

>>380462217
>How the fuck does that have anything to do with preparation?
mh books tlaks a lot of the monster status and attacks. they help a lot to discover the monster weaknes without adding for internet help.
> element is still a noob trap
is still good if you dont go for pure raw equipment, people like elements and the desing of many of the weapons. You opting for it being removed is dumb.
>>380462258
square are being smarter there, they have switch version to port in case it does well and made a 3ds game to not lose the portable userbase.

>>380461482
Give it time, the sony shitposters will have something new to shitpost and flaunt about soon making it so we can discuss MH again without this shitty fucking console war shit.

>>380462691
Yes.

>>380462851
MHO had the same moves, but combat is still terrible because of several different reasons.

>>380447629
>>380449948
>>380450767
Yeah do we know if it's like
>pause
>go to camp
Or just a farcaster like normal?

Also who the fuck is bad enough to have to change equips? Played since tri and I never wished I could change from what I brought in except for maybe when Daora shows up randomly and nobody brought poison

>>380462318
>all punishing game mechanics are good
Go play NES if you care that much, jesus. We can have difficulty without unnecessary filler crap. But by all means, keep up the "westernized/casualized" meme.

>>380462601
it will probably outsle the 3ds version, but it will give a glimpse of how much can MH sell.

>>380462582
>PS4 is doing great in Japan
Pffffffthahahahahha
It's doing way worse than the PS3 was. It's doing way worse than the Wii was. It's doing way worse than the PS2 was. It's doing worse than the Gamecube was.
In what world is the PS4 doing well in Japan? It's doing a bit better than the Wii U but that's it.

>>380462857
2ch. There are some hype threads but most are mad it's not on 3DS or Switch because for most people in Japan Monster Hunter is their 'commute' game, not a game they play much at home.

>>380461701
How are dual blades dumbed down? They have to constantly stick to a monster's weak points to do competitive damage, they have short range, long attack animations, and have above average reliance on armor skills.
Maybe adept dual blades, but that's the exception, not the norm.

>>380462632
you're right for the "veteran" part for the causals it's more the fact that capcom didn't put any content or proper tutorial or any incentive for people to get better, so causals bought the game finished the piss poor story mode then with nothing to do went straight to the online and got their asses kicked. After a certain time they get mad an just drop the game because they don't understand why they lose and as casuals have a really shitty attention span, if you don't grb them at lauch you'll never have theme.

>>380463009
kek

>>380463009
Lol if you believe that. There hasn't been a single game that has sold over a million units in Japan.

>>380462649
I was just correcting the anon about street fighter V that's it, not the rest