Sony "games"

>Ape Escape died for this
>So did Sly Cooper
>And Jak
>And Jumping Flash
>And Tomba
>And MediEvil
>And even more PlayStation franchises that fit the name of the console in general
PlayStation has the most dishonest brand name in the history of video games.

>>380434112
>interactive movie cancer ruined Sony
It hurts.

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I like "interactive movies" and no one else makes them remotely as good as Sony

These cinematic "games" popularity is the reason video games have no artistic merit.

You cant deny this.

>leave interactive flicks to us

>>380435001
>100 bullets hit him, he doesn't die
>enemies stand around waiting to be beaten up
>absolute garbage gameplay

>>380436001
according to (You)

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when did everything go so right for us sonybros?

>>380436492
>literally defending interactive movies

>>380436891
To play devil's advocate, we have people here on /v/ that rabidly defend VN's. Is that really any different?

>>380436953
>uh well people also defend other garbage so that makes garbage ok

No they're both shit

>>380433872
Days Gone actually looks like it has gameplay. That being said, the three of these games are not looking super great.

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>>380436891
yeah so?
interactive movies are fun

>>380436001
>>100 bullets hit him, he doesn't die
he was hit only a few times
>>enemies stand around waiting to be beaten up
as far ive seen the enemies where shooting constantly at him and tried to beat him up when given the chance
shitpost better next time anonkun

The worst part is how this cinematic shit affects the rest of Spider-Man. You're not going to get fun charged jumps because it doesn't fit in with the serious movievlike feel of the game. You're not going to get normal web zips because they're not cool enough but instead get press R1 to awesome zip parkour. If this qte cinematic shit was confined to certain levels it would be a benign cancer but it never fucking is. It always metastises and infects everything and when it's don't killing your game it then spread to other games and you get cinematic bullshit everywhere

Bunch of fucking movies that need a random controller input every 30 seconds or it turns off

>>380437389
Exactly.

>>380436953
VN's are trash, but at least they don't ruin franchises and gameplays. Spider-Man should have had amazing gameplay, not this interactive movie quick time events cancer.

>>380437203

Tlou was not fun

>>380437389
>You're not going to get normal web zips
he literally webzipped in the fucking demo
did people even see the games they are shitposting about?

>>380433872
What was it, Days Lost? Man that game looked so fucking boring.
>Generic as fuck but teh zombies move fast!
>QTEfest
>Highlight detective mode

>>380436953
You don't go into a VN expecting anything other than to click next. This cinematic qte shit is replacing actual game play. Where once you would have a boss fight you now press buttons like you're in guitar hero. Where a cool cutscene would play after the boss fight the game just continues the qte into the cutscenes leaving you unable to enjoy the spectacle because you're too focused on pressing O at the right time while also not enjoying the game because you're standing around waiting for the game to tell you what button to fucking press. Jarring as fuck.

That whole crane scene in Spider-Man could have been fixed by having a simple fight on the rooftop, then using the environment prop to attack an enemy causing the crane collapse cutscene. The player gets to play and then sit back and enjoy the well made cutscene.

>>380436953
that's saying we shouldn't complain about sony movies because we like to read books

VNs are a different thing to normal video games and you know it

>>380437923
You are blind, go watch it again, then come back. Stop fucking defending trash man, we get it, you like Sony, so do we, they are going down the fucking drain. Fuck The Last of Us, fuck Uncharted 4, fuckk NAUGHTY CANCER for popularizing this cancerous interactive movie bullshit, fuck HEAVY RAIN, FUCK UNTIL DAWN, FUCK THESE CANCER MOVIES.

I WANT GAMES
GAMES
GAMES!?!??!?!?! DO YOU HEAR ME???? NOT MOVIES.

IT'S BEEN 4 FUCKING YEARS AND BLOODBORNE WAS THE ONLY GOOD EXCLUSIVE.

>>380438204
anon have snicker
your a real faggot when your hungry

>>380436953
Not all VN are complete degenracy, while they are yes just spamming the a button shit like Ace Attorney has some decent enough "gameplay" and the Zero Escape series has some good puzzles (that they reuse like 500 times)

>>380437923
It's the web rush stuff from ASM games. The twirls and all. It's not made for locomotion but rather for stylistic travel which again feeds into the whole need for the game to always look cool.

The main problem ASM webzip had was the transition between cool automated parkour and player control where it always kind of lagged and froze as it slowly handed you back control. Granted I admit we didn't see enough to make a call on how well it's executed but the web zip icon being there at all times like the batman grappling hook plus what we did see leads me to believe it's a bunch of press x to cool parkour here shit.

>>380437203
yeah but normal movies don't cost sixty dollars

>>380438379
>It's the web rush stuff from ASM games.
no it isnt
the web rush was some cutscene that played if you aimed your web at something\
there was none of that in the demo

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Every Triple-A garbage Sony has published in recent years is a fucking movie.
But they will be critically and commercially successful anyway because they will impress everyone with their strong violence, edginess and cutscenes, "OMG SO CINEMATIC. SO EMOTIONAL 10/10 GTYO" and not give a single drip of shit about their clunky controls unoptimized gameplay, unskippable walking sections and scripted set-pieces that yank the control away from you.
Fuck cinematic games.

>>380437203

Motion Sickness: The Game

>>380438448
normal movies aren't 16 hours long or fucking INTERACTIVE

Some of these interactive movies even have very active competitive multiplayer

>>380433872
Interactive movies are fine unless they try to disguise as something else.

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Stop pretending Nintendo games aren't as shallow as the AAA multiplats you secretly fawn over and love to play. - Dunkey.

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>>380437797
it was too

>>380433872
Why is Asura Wrath not getting shit on? It is full of QTE and little combat.

>>380438520
>chase scene
>web rush through billboards in slow mo
>slow mo zips to the top of water coolers

Again we didn't see enough for me to be confident it is ASM style but there is plenty to be weary of so far

>>380438607
>last of us does well
>he guys what if we do it again with god of war

Just kill me now guys. Cinematic parental story in a god of war game

>>380433872
why does /v/ shit on these games and then worship games like Persona 5 in the same breath? P5 had like 90 hours of VN cutscenes

>>380438607
Horizon came out three months ago, so, no

>>380439069
Asuras Wrath always gets shit on whenever its brought up.

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>>380439236
Because P5 has actual gameplay that isnt QTE shit.

>>380435001
>press button for a pretty takedown animation
Wtf, I love Sony now.

I have an Xbox but I was so excited for Spider-Man then e3 happened.

>>380439538
What's wrong they learn it from Capcom.

>>380439693
I have a PS4 pro so imagine my disappointment. Still waiting on free roam gameplay before I make a call though, maybe Sony forced them to do this cinematic shit because they had no other games for e3 except dlc and final fantasy fishing

>>380437345
Are you blind? There was at least two enemies there that didn't shoot him when given the chance and one of them decides to run up and try to hit him even though he has a gun

>>380433872
Sony is fucking cancer. They only release good games by purchasing exclusivities like BB or MH (which isn't even exclusive, just not on Nintendo). The rest of their "games" are absolute garbage. The spiderman one at least looks fun, even though it looks more shallow than fucking akham city.

>>380438784
I don't think that's what Dunkey said.

>>380439359
>turn-based menu combat
>more "actual gameplay" than real-time shooter combat
kill yourself

>>380439778
Yeah they still have maybe more than a year to work on things so maybe they'll turn it around. I hope they improve the swinging, it didn't really look like you build speed

>he looks for anything but Japanese third party games in a Playstation, with a few exceptions
>he thinks Sony's approach to E3 means anything for people who actually understand the consoles main selling point

This is like buying a Nintendo console but having no interest in first party games or an Xbox console and having no interest in Western games

>>380439031
>spam square to win as every zombie aside from clickers waits for you to stop mauling their friends
no it wasnt

>>380440001
Swinging looked shit, floaty and able to do a left turn while swinging from a web on the right. I don't hold much hope, it's better this way

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>>380439919
Except it does have more gameplay.

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>>380438607 i wanted an actual god of war 4, not this cinematic numale last of us. Seeing that gameplay section pissed me off and i've notice that sony is pretty moved to the causal audience. How the fuck are people hyped for this game to begin with? Did normies just develop a shit taste after 7th gen or develop shit taste standards of gameplay?

>>380438607
At least God of War has gameplay, whether the combat will be good enough remains to be seen. I am willing to give it a try.

These are the only PS4 games worth buying:
- Bloodborne: Game of the Year Edition
- God of War (not out until 2018)
- Shadow of the Colossus (not out until 2018-2019, is a remake of a remaster, people played it on PS2 and PS3...)

How long has it been? 4 years? this is sad honestly.

>>380439919
>It's only gameplay if it's gameplay I like.

>>380440398
Fucking Spider-Man convinced me to get the PS4 and now it looks eh. I knew I should have listened to forza

>>380439816
I hope to god From Software never works for Sony exclusive again. They are literally the only one who saved PS3 with Demon's Souls and PS4 with Bloodborne.

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>>380439810
it was on easy ("light") difficulty

here is one on very hard ("crushing") difficulty

>>380440515
Where are the retarded shills that kept saying "Insomniac is based, they make good gameplay"? Spider-Man was the biggest let down of the Sony conference for me.

A spider-man has so much potential to be a fun game that can sell millions. All it needs is momentum/physics based web slinging with potential for failure if you don't do it properly and potential for great reward with speed acceleration if you do it correctly. After that, the focus should be on the combat and abilities being fun.

Story and cinematics shouldn't matter at all during the design phase of the game.

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>>380433872
Not PS4 exclusive but the only game I actually am looking forward to is TEW2.
Don't care what anyone says about the first game, I loved it, and cannot fucking wait for this one

>>380440480
this is exactly what the losers complaining about interactive movies say, except the only reason they don't like the gameplay is because they think it looks TOO cinematic and polished

>>380437797
TLOU was very fun, mainly because it didn't have regenerating health, ie. the worst design trend in modern gaming. The gameplay in TLOU is Resident Evil 4 2.0

>>380440192
they really do not wait at all except during the execution animations, like when you bust their heads open against the bus.
the only reason they weren't hitting the player in that webm was because they get stunned for a second when you punch them, so you can just keep quickly alternating between targets to keep the others stunned while you focus on killing individuals

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>>380436953
VNs are honest about what they are. Some of them even have porn to boot.

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>>380441806
forgot webm

>>380440665
For once I hope they actually do another exclusive. I want to play Bloodborne but I'd feel like an idiot buying a ps4 for just a single game. I want them to give me reasons to purchase one.

>>380442207
From Software is extremely reluctant to make exclusives, unless Sony really throws a lot of money at them, like with Bloodborne. They have grown extremely popular across the world on PC, Xbox and PS. They are working on something for the Nintendo Switch, they plan to expand across all platforms and become a multi-platform power house. If Armored Core 6 is the multi-platform and if Armored Core 6 becomes a huge success like Souls, From Software are going to become one of the most dominant companies in gaming and that is one of the best things that can happen.

You can buy a PS4 in 2018, then you have 3 games to play: Bloodborne, God of War and Shadow of the Colossus.

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>>380436525
The fact that someone had to actually sit a write this guide is hilarious and depressing.

>>380441475
Regenerating health is fine when done right - when it alone is not nearly enough to make you feel safe during a fight. There should be a constant ebb and flow of you being hurt/suppressed, regenerating your HP while blindfiring/cover-firing or changing locations, and pushing back hard until you are suppressed again but have given yourself some breathing room / better positioning to continue the fight. You should have to intimately know the limits of your regen advantage in order to make the ballsy split-second decisions that allow you to survive and eventually persevere.

That's how multiplayer games with regenerating health are fun at least

>>380433872
Yeah those all suck but Sony gets a lot of the best Japanese games

>>380442564
>You can buy a PS4 in 2018, then you have 3 games to play: Bloodborne, God of War and Shadow of the Colossus.
DELETE THIS

>>380442564
uh, bro. They signed a contract years ago saying that they would make three PS4 exclusive games for Sony. Bloodborne was the first. We don't know anything about the other two - only that Sony has been giving them a lot of time and money to make them as they please

>>380442207
>I want to play Bloodborne but I'd feel like an idiot buying a ps4 for just a single game. I want them to give me reasons to purchase one.
I bought a PS4 for Bloodborne and I feel like it was worth the price, it's genuinely one of the best games ever made. As much as I think Sony is fucking up hard in terms of the PS4's game library, there are some other good games for the system, like Yakuza 0, Persona 5, Gravity Rush 2, The Last Guardian and TLOU Remastered.

>>380443039
>Regenerating health is fine when done right
Nah. The only game to get regenerating health right is Halo. It's fine there because the enemies only use projectile attacks so you can always avoid damage. Regenerating health DOES NOT WORK in games where enemies have regular instant-hit guns, as it basically means you are forced to soak up bullets and then crouch behind a wall, which is the least fun thing imaginable.

>>380444334
the rest of my post after I said that explains exactly how it can work well even with hitscan weapons.

It only sucks when you can get by by just playing whack a mole. Good movement should be paramount in hitscan games with regenerating health

>>380444667
>how it can work well even with hitscan weapons
It can't though.

>>380444096
Source?

>>380444789
it can. I know this for a fact since I personally have had fun playing games with hitscan weapons and regenerating health. You've never played Halo or Gears or COD or even Battlefield multiplayer?

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God of War and Spider-Man looked great to me. The only thing that changed with God of War is the camera. And at least the QTEs is Spidey were confined to the scripted sequences. Did you guys expect DMC gameplay in both of these?

>>380446114
I want Spiderman's story mode to be fun that I can replay over and over, not be stuck with set pieces that take control away from me for WOAH DUDE moments
I don't hate it, but my expectations went down

>>380446114
>Did you guys expect DMC gameplay in both of these?

In the case of Spider-Man, I expected them to show off more gameplay (like webswinging). Instead, it was filled with cinematic bullshit.

I'm not saying it's going to be the worst thing ever, but for the purposes of selling me on the game, their little QTE demonstration really shit the bed.

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>>380433872
>his games are so indie and shit that theirs dont even have actual actors and OST on them

go play counter strike mate lmao

>>380433872
>It's a man holds a little girl hostage episode with quick time events press x to not lose gameplay

Oh so much creativity and innovation. 2 games with generic gritty edgy mcshootan and spiderman.

>>380446291
This is the date of every western game. It sucks I know, but if you like western games you deal with it.
>>380446507
No one but a very small minority cares that much about web swinging physics. As long as you can swing it's fine to most people. Spider-Man 2 had great swinging and no one cared enough to bring it back.

>>380439538
>Press x to become invincible for 1.5 seconds and have no control over your character because we're too lazy to actually make good game mechanics.
Bethesda did this and gets slaughtered for it.But it's ok if Sony does it.

>>380445504
>CoD multiplayer
>fun
We're done here.

>>380438660
>a game should only last 16 hours
Please god purge this new generation of redditors.

>>380446114
Remember when Sony revealed the first trailer for the PS4 Spidey game?
When everyone was wondering how Insomniac would translate that trailer to gameplay?
Well, QTEs were the worst case scenario. Even telling everyone those moves would just be possible in cutscenes would have been better. Making them into shitty Asura's Wrath sections is the last thing anyone wanted.

>>380446971
>No one but a very small minority cares that much about web swinging physics

Ok fine. Combat then, or just free roaming. Or what the fuck ever besides "Press X to save the day" garbage.

>>380441007
>Insomniac is based
you all fucking sonybros didn't say that about Sunset Overdrive.

>>380434112
I forgot about tomba, played the shit out of that as a child.

>>380447057
a linear game should be around that length

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Some interactive movies are good. Some are trash. Just like all video games.
I fucking loved Heavy Rain.
I thought TLoU was probably one of the most mediocre experiences ever.

Though really, almost all of them are better than Open World Tower Climbing Simulator 104.

>>380447113
Did you seriously think you were going to be stopping falling cranes in real time? Or having deep combat against someone on top of a car? And button prompts =! QTE.

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well at least theyre developing games, what is nintendo doing? showing a logo? just starting development on key games? what have they been funding and doing all these years? amiibos? $90 hdmi converters?

>>380447541
I would really prefer if you'd be quiet.

>>380447057
you know, there are people with lives who actually earn money and can spent it, these people are the target group, dont have the time to play 500h grind fest rogue like meme games and its absolutly normal that more games are made for them. welcome to capitalism.

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I might actually get a better job so I can buy a 4k tv and PS4 pro for Detroit: Become Human.

>>380447170
I was interested in Sunset Overdrive because it was Insomniac. According to most people the game sounds lackluster though and not worth buying a xbone alone for.
>>380448037
Yeah, I don't know how people are saying Nintendo won e3 when it's obvious MP4 won't come out for another 5-6 years, it'll probably be a fucking launch day title for their next system and come out on the Switch simultaneously.

>>380448037
There's clearly 2 more usb ports on the outside of the dock, anon.

>Monkey Island
>King's Quest
>Leisure Suit Larry
>Grim Fandango
>Danganronpa
>Syberia
>The Witness
>Abzu
>Vanishing of Ethan Carter
>Firewatch
>Telltale games
>any VN
but IT ISN'T OKAY WHEN SONY DOES IT.
Just because they also opt to use action gameplay.
inb4
>but those games suck!

>>380448705
people who are shit at sunset overdrive and dont know how to kill shit while going super fast will say its lackluster

the game is not easy especially at later levels if you do not understand how to grind and move fluently and use certain weapons against certain enemies

i have like 50 diamond achievements in Sunset O because so little people get past the early game

>>380447839
I know exactly where you're coming from, Heavy Rain works because it's sticks to it's design of "click-and-point like" and QTEs being for all actions so you get used to it as the story's pacing builds until it gets to a pretty climactic final act
TLoU was mediocre because it's pacing is all over the place, one minute you're in a high intensity set-piece, another minute your walking painfully slow to your destination and have to do a "puzzle" of finding the object that lets you move forward

E3 2017 summarised
>Xbox: GRAFIX
>Sony: Movies
>Nintendo: Games

>>380434112
They don't need to be honest, their mindless players will defend them no matter what. All I want on my PS4 is a proper Ratchet and Clank game or some Sly Cooper.