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PS4 Boss Explains Why Sony Won't Do Cross-Play With Xbox

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https://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2017-ps4-boss-explains-why-sony-wont-do-cross-p/1100-6450938/

Microsoft: We'd be happy to do cross-play with Sony. We're cool and we care about gamers.
Sony: "no"
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>>380426240
Nintendo says Sony said on Rocket League crossplay as well.
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Only retards care about this.
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>>380426240
perpetuating an old japanese tradition: xenophobia

there is literally nothing wrong with xenophobia
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>>380426389
>there is nothing wrong with irrational fear
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It actually used to be the other way around back on PS3 with some titles.

Sony was okay doing cross-play, but microsoft didn't want to. So you ended up having cross-play only with PC.
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>>380426293
This shit is why I'm glad most Sony games get PC ports.
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Didn't that survey from a couple of months ago prove that the average ps4 player is a lot younger than the average xbox or nintendo user?
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They allow cross play between their own consoles and PC.In the case of ffxiv being on ps3,ps4, and PC. When it comes to stuff they don't have a monoply on like final fantasy its a no go.
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>>380426293
>>380426502
Said no*

But I think that was obvious
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>>380426368
>I have a Switch
>Friend has XBone and we both like Rocket League and can play online now without caring about which console we have

Sure anon
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>>380426240
They are essentially saying that they don't want to have players that they can't control. Which makes sense. If you're going to charge people money in order to play online, you need to curate the experience at least some what. Allowing cross play means that they are giving up the ability to curate a significant amount of users.

This is coming from someone who really doesn't give a shit about consoles.
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>>380426472
This shit is why I'm glad most Microsoft games get PC ports.
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>>380426464
> Irrational
How's Cologne these days?
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>>380426514
Wouldn't surprise me. Thats what you get with COD and Destiny exclusivity deals.
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>>380426614
I don't use cologne as I am not a fucking woman.
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>>380426240
>Sony
>we need to think about the children
Meanwhile Miyamoto shows up with a gun at Ubisoft
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>>380426614
Fine? I was there literally 3 weeks ago. Christ, is this how you want to live your life? You know you're going to fucking die one day, right?

Is this the legacy you're looking for?
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>>380426601
except rocket league already has crossplay with ps4 and pc.
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>>380426614
are you really comparing racial tension to video game consoles
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>>380426464
>irrational
how is the UK doing ?
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>>380426714
Its a /pol/tard. Do you really think anyone would ever remember him?
He'll either off himself in the coming years because he cant handle diversity, or will look back on a life being angry on the internet doing absolutely nothing
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Sony is scared of losing this console gen since their company is leaning heavily on it being a continuous success.
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>Sony fanboys kept calling Nintendo a company for kids
>Suddenly Sony cares more about kids than everything else
The irony is killing me.
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>>380426240
>Not only are sony fans jaded faggots, but the company is as well

who could have guessed!
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>>380426240
>Microsoft and Nintendo: REEEEEEEEEE SHARE YOUR PLAYERBASE!!!!!
>Sony: Nah, We're good.
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>2 Metroid games announced
>MH back on PlayStation (and other consoles)
>DBZ fighting game looks and plays better than Capcom made fighting game
>Sony literally uses "muh kids" as an excuse
What the fuck is going on
Did I switch timeline?
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>This thread again
Stay mad
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>>380426714
if you gonna die anyway you better off yourself right now because yolo
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What's hilarious is that no one even bothers moderating Sony servers anyways and kids still get threats and insults online
So I'm not sure where they're getting at with this
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>>380426835
Watching Trump get impeached is going to be fucking GOOD.
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>>380427172
It's called an excuse. If it were actually the reason they'd have never allowed crossplay with PC in the handful of games that have it.
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>>380427012
>>DBZ fighting game looks and plays better than Capcom made fighting game
The DBZ fighting game is an ArcSys game and their games were always better than Capcom fighting games.
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>>380426240
FOR THE GAMERS

Lousy excuse though. What about allowing crossplatform play, but disallowing voice/chat communication when crossplatforming?
Nintendo's demographic is arguably younger too.
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>>380427497
It's a flimsy excuse that makes no sense, kind of like the circular logic used to justify Link "having" to be male.
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>>380426689
Women don't use cologne either, genius.
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>>380426240
I feel bad for my Nintenbros, imagine paying $20 a month for the privilege of playing with loud obnoxious retarded Xniggers.
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>>380426240
>sonyfags will defend this
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>>380426240
you realise Microsoft was the the who refused crossplay last gen?

now that the xbone failed and they dont have enough players they are desperate for crossplay and Sony rightfully shits on them

microsoft is like some shitty political party, they are extremely good at word playing and misleading people into thinking they are the good guys.
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>>380427012
Honestly I'm asking the same question Halo is going back to it's roots, Metroid is back and staying this time, Microsoft just announced avatars are coming back and they look good. Microsoft and Nintendo women design is amazing while Ubisoft, EA, Activision, and Sony purposely make ugly women. Microsoft and Nintendo seems to be the only ones that understand that diversity in games means different fucking genres and not what the other companies are defining it as. 2017 has been one crazy year.

>>380427234
When this happens then it's pretty much confirmation I got lost in the Twilight Zone.
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>>380427761
>kind of like the circular logic used to justify Link "having" to be male
Not even going to humor you trying to change the subject.

RL has Xplatform with PC too by the way
saged because fuck you
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Do people even play online on consoles? besides kids I mean.

I just disable online on consoles.
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maybe Microsoft will collect telemetry on their systems if they let them in
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>>380428126
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>>380427880
Your mother.
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>>380428287
What, you don't think it's an important subject to discuss? Come the fuck on.
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>>380428126
>microsoft is like some shitty political party, they are extremely good at word playing and misleading people into thinking they are the good guys.
Oh, like the Republicans.
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>>380427234
Have to say this, /r/The_Donald's invasion is pretty bad. They no longer refuse to be contained in /pol/, I'm starting to see this shit on lots of boards.
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>>380426835
>>380427234
>>380429320
>trump
>impeached

over what?
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Fanboyism aside, it would be unfair to PS4 owners. The Xbox One X is so powerful that they'd be playing with much better framerate, giving them an advantage in multiplayer games.
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>>380426587
>Friend has XBone
Get better friends
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People need to stop acting as this is an equal arrangement. Microsoft owns Minecraft, and would have control over the infrastructure facilitating crossplay, yet Sony would still be liable (or presumed liable by their userbase) for anything that goes on through their service.

Sure, it's possible Sony is just giving us the PR spin, but the reason they gave sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
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>>380429398
Obstruction of justice.
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>>380429534
Which obstruction.
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>>380426240
so they're saying ps4 isn't for kids?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *breathes in* AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHHAHHA
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>>380429493
why does it matter if they own minecraft? other games are gonna be crossplay.
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Well, it would be retarded of Sony to do that.
This is one dirty scheme to make kids pick up their consoles instead of a ps4. Why sony would do this?

When playerbase is being shared between consoles then it doesn't matter which one you pick, since you'll be playing with your friend regardless. Xbox and Nintendo will market the FUCK outta of that and ultimately hurt Sony's sales. Xbox be extra salt about that since they're the ones waltzing like bitches around trynna sell their consoles this generation. Sony has such a firm grip this generation people just naturally goes for a PS4 when they are buying a console.
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>>380426240
When you're in a league of your own you don't need to associate with the B leagues
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>>380426240
Sony has a interestconflict with it's users and the shareholders. Investors downt want Crossplay even though the playerbase could benefit from it. Guess which side they are on?

#ForThePlayers

Such a pathetic company, yet /v/ defends their chinese overlords, slurping their semen and getting their pubic hair caught in between their teeth.
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>>380428126
>Console manufacturers are like shitty political parties, they are extremely good at word playing and misleading people into thinking they are the good guys.

Thinking any console company (Or any business in general) even approaches being "on your side" or "in the right" is naïve.
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>>380426614
There 7-10k muslims protesting against islamic terror today in cologne. Whats wrong with cologne?

Where did that bbc touch mommy boy?
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have you guys played games on psn? it the worst online service for consoles. psn is down a fuck ton, my account got locked because they wanted me to change my password so I had to wait like 6 hours to contact them and reset it. psn couldn't handle crossplay.
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>>380429727
Like?
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>>380426601
What can't they control? It's just the game, there's no cross voice chat or messaging, so what are they protecting their players from?
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>>380430230
delete this
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>>380429049
To be fair, this statement can only come from someone who's under 21 and not into politics much. Yes, you are illiterate on the world of politics and what Democrats have been doing with their donation schemes - among other things.
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>>380429978
>the playerbase could benefit from it

how ?
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>>380426614
"irrational fear" is literally the definition of phobia

you fuckers need to learn to use words
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>>380429569
Stop playing dumb.
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>>380430592
I'm serious. I followed every event and i don't see where the obstruction is. Comey's firing isn't an obstruction of justice.
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>>380430347
>Yes, you are illiterate on the world of politics
The irony of this phrase.

And in the middle of a "We republicans are so pure and angelic" post, too.
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>>380430683
It's incredible that you're willingly dismissing all the pay for play corruption of the clinton fundation and the DNC at large.
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Let's be real. Sony has sold over 60 million PS4s. Microsoft around 25 million Xbox Ones. This is nothing more than an attempt by Microsoft to get access to the PS4 userbase. It makes sense as to why they would want to do that, but Sony doesn't have a good reason to jump on it. It won't benefit them nor will it really benefit PS4 users either.
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>>380426240
>being the dominant console around the world
>"why don't you want to crossplay with my stuff?"
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>>380430735
It's even more incredible that you're doing the same for the Trump Foundation, Cambridge Analytica, etc.
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Fuck

We are so goddamn close to achieving full crossplat gaming yet Sony as usual have to be jews about everything. This is why we can't have nice things. Fucking cancerous company needs to die.
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>>380431018
There is no evidence of any pay for play politics involving Trump.
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>>380426991
>overwatch fag implying other communities are bad
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>>380430230
That's why they did it first then, eh Xcuck?
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>>380431063
There's plenty of evidence but you just accuse it of being fake news because you've got a hateboner for liberals.
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>>380431304
News aren't evidence. I'm talking about legal evidence. Not don lemon evidence.
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>>380430816
meanwhile CoD features at Sony's conference
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Microsoft PR department is on fire these days. First they come off the good guys during E3, showing loads of games and providing them to both console and PC markets, and now they make Sony look like salty assholes over something as meaningless as Minecraft crossplay.
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>>380426240
>within the PlayStation curated universe
Sony is a shit company
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>>380431356
Yet you'll willingly believe Alex Jones.
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>>380431037
>wanting to be inflicted with xfags while playing games

the dream should be free online and cancersoft ruined that

redmond shills shilling that shit conference is a laugh too
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>>380426240
It feels like Microsoft is only doing this because of the forced 1984 camera-spying in your living room debacle.
Their words sound nice but I will never be able to forgive them for that when the consequences will be that at some point they will apply their patents like the camera detecting more than two people in the room so you have to buy more licenses for the movie you watch.
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>>380426240
Let's be honest, this is entirely a business decision. Sony has the largest install base on the PS4, and therefore the least to gain from crossplay. Nintendo and Microsoft would both benefit from multiplats on their consoles having a larger online playerbase available. Technically it would benefit all consumers, but companies don't care too much about that.
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>>380430646
>hello im a cop im going to arrest your friend
>no im gonna stop you
>obstruction of justice

>hello im your boss, the president
>hello im fbi director. Youre friends are being investigated for crime
>no im gonna fire you
>
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>>380431378
It's impressive because of just how badly they botched the Xbox One reveal back in the day.

Now, I still think they're completely retarded for trying to get away with a $500 console and as such I won't be buying it, but I can't deny they're getting better.
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>>380431357
And it looks like Activision lost all directions with it. Returning to WWII for the third time just reeks of desperation to me.
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>>380431445
Alex jones is not legal evidence. Alex jones is like don lemon.
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>>380431378
I think you are underplaying the importance of cross-play here, It can do wonders to keep a online community of a game active and well populated,

Not to mention it would encourage sales of niche games with smaller audience because the online play wouldn't be a barren wasteland because barely anyone on your platform plays it.
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The Sonyfag Redditors constantly say it's Microsoft's fault lmao
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>>380431208
what?
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>>380431517
Flynn was fired before comey's firing.
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>>380431517
Hasta la revolucìon americano dingo doing
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>>380429448
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MICCCCCCCCROSOFT

I hate Nintenbros
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>>380431710
Not true
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>>380431535
Wasn't the Xbox division helmed by some other guy before and during the infamous reveal?
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>>380431801
Nintenbros are the best
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7nH9-H4YE8&t=1s

best guy
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>>380431546
For some reason the so-called "fans" have been demanding World War II shooters again and again. I don't know why; I hate it. I actually enjoyed that CoD went in a modern and then futuristic direction because I like those settings much more.
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>>380431602
It's fucking Minecraft, game both old and below C-level in production without any competitive factor to boot. Only people in that community are autists and small children.
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>>380431804
Yes, true. Flynn was fired. No other evidence of collusion found since. Investigation has been going on for month. Nothing new. This is a joke at this point. Just butthurt dems crying like children like they always do. Yet remain silent when clintons sell uranium to russians.
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>>380431843
yeah it wasn't phil if it was it would of been a lot better
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>>380426240

Until UWP goes away, noone should cooperate with microsoft about anything.

Any no is a good no.
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>>380431934
That's a load of bullshits, prove it
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>>380431914
>liking futureshit
You have to be 18 to post here
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>>380431710
Flynn's not the only suspect. Are you playing dumb or are you actually dumb?
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>>380431934
explain further fellow trumpeter
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>>380432108
Guess you'd better get out of here then.
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>>380432176
fuck off retard
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>>380432026
Look it up yourself. Flynn was fired, he isn't part of the government anymore.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=1
>>380432176
No other evidence of contact, collusion or meeting found. Almost a year now.

Let it go, demoshit.
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>>380432210
>No you
underage detected
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>>380432176
Also FYI: an unsourced CNN article isn't evidence. CNN retracted itself so many times on so many fake trump news they wrote, it's just sad.
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It's obvious: Installbase translates to players playing the game which itself is an argument since it positively affects player retention, matchmaking and recognition of a certain console brand in social space e.g. "everybody is playing on ps4". These effects are lessened when you pool your online playerbase with the other consoles/pc since it makes the platform less important and thereby devalues the brand and being a consumer of that certain brand.
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>>380432263
If the Republicans weren't obstructing the investigation at every turn perhaps it would have taken less time to find the evidence.
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>>380431934
Looked up the uranium thing, looks like private company that gave money to clinton made a private deal to another cmpany that majority stock owned by a russian company for uranium. But the uranium never shipped because the company didnt have an export license for uranium

Clinton had no say anywhere. Why would you think clinton owns uranium anyway? Russia already has nukes, why would we care if they get more uranium?
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>>380432263
>nytimes
Fake news
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>>380432331
You detected yourself?
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>>380432393
No one obstructed anything. Republicans are with the democrats on this.

There are more republicans against trump and for trump. You are buddy with republicans.
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>>380430439
larger userbase
play with friends or contacts that have other console than you
not fucking dead servers for most FPSes that are older than 3 years
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>>380432487
Good, let's get that fucker out of office then.
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>>380432418
To get more nukes. Who knows.

Democrats tell us we shouldn't trust russians. Alright. Why did bill give a 500 000 speech to russians then? Flynn was fired for doing a 50 000 speech.
>>380432557
You are now siding with the people you just denigrated.

You're pathetic.
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>>380432557
This let's go boys
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>>380432176
Not a drumpfkin but >>380432345 is right. CNN is hardly fucking reliable these days and I'm always wary about their headlines and what they can actually prove compared to what they speculate.
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>>380431503
How? All my Windows games have free online. Last time I checked psn cost $60 and Xbl was $40
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>>380432606
What's pathetic about uniting against a common foe? Strength in numbers, my friend.
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>>380432615
Let's kill this whities togheter boiiiiiii
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Why did Comey let himself be influenced by Loretta Lynch?


>>380432683
When the two most corrupt entities in the country get together, something's hurting them bad.
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>>380432263
Sessions lied, Comey said Pence knew about Flynn, now Sessions is pulling "I dont recall" and now we have evidence that 39 goddamn states have lost their voting registration record to russians

If the Obama admistration is "unsourced" than youre delsuional. This kinda info leaks when the head of state autisticly fires eveyone in the state dept

Replace "Trump admistration" with "Clinton administration" and youd care. Youd be all over any information. But because its trump youre taking treason and threatens of treason lightly

Paul Ryan said he dindu nuffin so its good enough for you
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>>380432519
>cross console play in shooters
>letting the userbase devolve even more with a shitty us vs them mentality
yeah, no thanks
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>>380432785
retard
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>>380431635
>MS releases insanely popular game
>could have maximized Xbox/Windows profits by having it exclusively on those platforms or by making crossplat only between those platforms
>decide to allow all other platforms to have crossplay with MS platforms (they don't get money for this)
>Sony says no like the kikes they are
>i-its all MS f-fault
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>We're cool and we care about gamers.

Lmao, Sony wanted crossplay last gen and Microsoft told them to fuck off because they had the advantage, now they've come crawling back because they're getting BLOWN THE FUCK OUT and Sony are just giving them a taste of their own medicine.

I personally believe there SHOULD be crossplay but you can totally understand why they're doing it. Microsoft are the jews here
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>>380432818
t. Alex "GILL MEN TOOK MY WIFE" Jones
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By the way, democrats as well as republicans asked for Comey's firing. Trump just did a service to the american people by firing Comey.
>>380432785
>Sessions lied,
Sessions didn't lie during his testimony.


>Comey said Pence knew about Flynn

Comey also perjured himself, leaked documents illegally, let himself be influenced by loretta lynch on the clinton email investigation, and has never been an FBI agent to begin with.


> now Sessions is pulling "I dont recall"

That's not a lie.

>and now we have evidence that 39 goddamn states have lost their voting registration record to russians

There is no such evidence. There is 0 evidence of russia hacking anything. There is nothing. You're straight up lying.

>If the Obama admistration is "unsourced" than youre delsuional. This kinda info leaks when the head of state autisticly fires eveyone in the state dept

yes, the obama admin is "unsourced". CNN used "anonymous" sources all the time, posts something, then retracts afterwards.

>Replace "Trump admistration" with "Clinton administration" and youd care. Youd be all over any information. But because its trump youre taking treason and threatens of treason lightly

There is enough juice with the clintons that i don't care about your non arguments.
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>>380432615
I watch C-Span m8

Shit i dont know i google
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>>380433027
Comey, democrats and a plethora of others have confirmed that they haven't found anything. There is nothing. Flynn's fired. You can calm down and sooth your butthurt with some creme now.
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>>380432882
>they had the advantage

No they didn't. Both consoles were neck and neck. Sony wanted to use Xbl servers that's why MS said no. Read up about it there have been exec's who talked about it.
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>>380426240
I can't believe /v/ is crying about Minecraft and Rocket League, 2 games that before today never had a single thread on board.

>>380431602
it's all PR spin bullshit, Yoshi-P has publicly pleaded with Spencer to drop MS restrictions for FFXIV at least a half dozen time, but MS had to have xbox only servers.
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>>380430343
Better alternative console experiences.
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>>380427234
...Sure. Any day now. I believ you.
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>>380432790
> You need to tell everyone which console every player is
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>>380433332
>what is voice chat
come on anon
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>Ryan went on to suggest that Sony is concerned about what could go wrong when allowing its own players, some of which could be children, to connect to a network outside of its own.
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>>380433314
Say something even cockier so I can put it in the screencap I'm making.
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>>380430683
I'm not even American. Don't give a shit abiut Republicans or Democrats.
But watching your posts all you ever seen to say is 'Democrats do the same but Republicans do it worse and it's cool to be Democrats now so I'll ignore every wrong they do' - and that's downright pathetic .

You're saying that both parties are shit but you elect to ignore what's wrong with Dems for the sake of belonging to a fanclub.
Kill yourself : you're everything that's wrong with the world today.
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>>380433420
> every game has voicechat
> everyone announces their platform on voicechat
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>>380433515
No, but you've described pretty well what Republicans do.

The difference between Democrats and Republicans is that Republicans are a monolith that puts party over country while Democrats are not afraid to disagree with each other and focus on doing what's right. Also, I refuse to die.
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>>380433003
>I didnt talk to russians
>oh wait i did sorry ill recuse
This is lying.

>lol comey doest know anyhting because lol
Dude was with the FBI under Bush and Obama.
His handling of the emails was weird, but he didnt do anything illegal. You just pointed out a buncha shit that has no relevence

>he didnt lie! He only didnt give us the truth!
We can trust a klansmen im sure

>no hacks
Then your obession with clintons emails are moot. Nor are cyber secuirty threats that Obama tried to fight. Which state was it? Indiana that reported their county records were compromised? I dont like our media but that "anonymous source" kinda fits the decade long strategy cyber strategy were victim to. Weve even caught dudes from siberia doing this shit. You only say im lying because you dont like hearing

I dont like the clintons either, but fuck you for putting our countries intregrity at risk because you dont like dems
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>>380432785
>Russia boogeyman
Will you people stop with this cold war-tier paranoia? Russia can't do shit to you, I know, I live here. Our entire government apparatus is filled exclusively with fat lazy morons who do nothing but steal tax money with paper-thin schemes. Our intelligence agencies employ people who don't know how to operate Microsoft Office, let alone hack something. This place does not have people qualified to wage any sort of conspiracy on another country.
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>>380433651
>'not me but they do it worse!'
Kill. Yourself.
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>>380433574
name one console shooter that came out this gen and has no voice chat
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>>380433096
>confirmed

Dude. We havent confirmed shit. The investigation is ongoing. Comey wants tapes. Whats wrong with you?
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>>380433731
Ours too. Its just that were all armed to the teeth and half our government has tricked half our population into believing anything they want, for a while they thought obama was a kenyan fascist atheist commie muslim
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>>380426240
#4thegaymers
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>>380426240

after their horrid e3 I traded my ps4 for splatoon 2, odyssey and xenoblade 2 pre-orders

I know I will never look back, fuck you sony I will never fall for your shit again
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>>380431965
>Sat in the same planning meetings
>Ran MS Studios into the ground
>would of

Xfags are retards.
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>>380433804
> every game is a shooter
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>>380433651
Democrats don't form a unified platform out of GREED. Not a desire to push for humanitarian agendas - that's what they sell to you useful idiots who just parrot everything they say without flexing the tiniest brain cells in critical intellectual effort.

Dems only ever fight over one thing : money. Same as republishits. You're just too fucking sold on the 'cool club' paradigm that you don't even notice how shit Democrat states have become over decades of abuse and public money funneling.

I won't even bother with your sparrow brains - trying to get anything outside your tiny world view to fit in. If you're too lazy to literally Google things, and too much of a pussy to Google uncomfortable truths, you're not worth anyone's time - not even your own.

Kill.
Yourself.
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>>380426240
So their excuse is "Shareholders" and "think of the children."

think of the children is a PR response.

shareholders is more honest.

here is my guess and it lines up with what Xbox is doing now.
Xbox is Microsoft and at any point they can Merge Console and PC.
the Xbox One X is essentially a low end Steam machine for microsoft Exclusives, which are also playable on PC.

Sony and Nintendo dont have the Luxury of being the company producing the OS for just about every computer in the world.

Sony got super lucky this generation that they have such a large install base without really doing anything. more of a Marketing Victory. other than their gaming division, the rest of sony is a failure. So it makes sense sony wants to keep its walls up as long as possible. Sony's mission now is to throw money at Studios to make games Exclusive, and prevent cross play, to stave of the Inevitable future where all games are Multiplat because they are so fucking expensive to make. And if every game is on every system, why would you buy a game console that isolates you and provides you with an inferior experience.

If Bloodborne was on PC at 60fps, why would anyone want to play it at 23fps on a console. it would weaken the desire to own anything sony.
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>>380430343
There's always ways to cause trouble, I've never played rocket league but in minecraft for example someone could easily build a giant flashing swastika on a public server, or a series of signs starting with "let me tell you about the jews..."
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>>380434130
>im so smart look at me
Please dont kill yourself, our feeble gene pool needs you
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>>380434097
Are you moving goalposts or just didn't read my posts? I was talking about shooters from the start >>380432790
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>>380431801
xbox has been the worst console since the launch, even my cod loving cuck friend thinks it's waste of money and he sold his
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>>380431646
Sony's been doing cross-play on PS3/4/Vita for years and had cross-play on Steam with a few games too.

Meanwhile Cancersoft plays catchup and expects Nintenbros to prop up dead third-party games.
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>>380434130
>out of GREED.
taking money out of other people's pocket isn't greed?

kys communist
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>>380426614
>I'm afraid that being able to play with players of other console markets will get me killed by muslims.
What did he mean by this?
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>>380434260
Didn't notice the word shooters there.
I guess you are right then, but I still refuse to believe that anyone would announce their console and shit-talk about that instead of doing the usual shit-talking.
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>>380433651
>Democrats are not afraid to disagree with each other and focus on doing what's right
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>>380434408
The word is "sarcasm". I say the opposite of what I mean for the effect is has on the intent. I am mocking you, not projecting insecurities I have about my intelligence, of which I have none.
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This thread is fucking disgusting as is this board
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>>380433812
It's been going on for 11 months and nothing came up. This only proves trump was right to fire that incompetent cunt.
>>380433687
>This is lying.
So talking to a russian is a crime? He said he may have talked with a russian BEFORE the whole democrat's nothing burger.

>Dude was with the FBI under Bush and Obama.

That doesn't mean shit. The guy never was a cop nor an FBI agent. He worked at HSBC before becoming FBI director.

>We can trust a klansmen im sure

Just like comey, sessions can't speak about everything. You're just grasping at straws.

>Then your obession with clintons emails are moot.

No considering the democRATS involved in crimes outlined in the emails have ADMITTED committing those crimes and have subsequently removed themselves from the position they held.

The emails are real, unlike the dmeocrat's accusations.

Comey himself said there's no evidence of russia hacking anything. We do know the ukrainians tried to help the clinton campaign though.
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>>380433651
>while Democrats are not afraid to disagree with each other and focus on doing what's right. Also, I refuse to die.
jesus christ just kill yourself
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>>380434142
>If Bloodborne was on PC at 60fps, why would anyone want to play it at 23fps on a console. it would weaken the desire to own anything sony.
Same reason multiplats sell more on consoles: all consoles have to do is be more attractive as an entry level option for the mass market and they justify themselves to the consumer. Like you said, the PS4 is a marketing, not a development, victory. As long as consumer tastes remain what they are, there will be a place for Xbone and PS4-like consoles.
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>>380434496
Well, in my opinion, console wars fit right into the usual shittalking.

>I still refuse to believe that anyone would announce their console
The way I see it it would be more like "you suck, you must be playing on xbox".
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>>380430227
>There 7-10k muslims protesting against islamic terror today in cologne.

Out of several hundred thousand, nice. Enjoy your delusion while it last I guess.

>>380427116
This.
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>>380432790
if what was true 3 years ago is still the case and PSN could play against XBL, psn players would get Stomped on in FPS games.

a lot of xbl veterans have been paying members, with headsets, decent communication skills, and Tons of experience being competitive in FPS games.

....while PSN vets got a playstation when online was free, because it was free and likely only played Single Player games and weebshit.

this was common knowledge in the CoD community amongst popular commentators/"content creators." they would go for Nukes and Pad their K/D's on playstation because the players were pushovers. easier to pump out 60/0 games on playstation, then try your luck on xbl where you are going to run into tryhards often.

t. two 1500 game win streaks in blackop 1 on xbl
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>>380434839
you fucking post modernist moral relativist cunt
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>>380434206
Why can't this already happen on ps4?
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>>380433651
>this is what libtards actually believe

Brainlets, when will they learn?

>>380434963
Not an argument.
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>>380434639
Talking to Russians isnt a crime. Doing so as Russians fuck with the DNC, your competition, and the voting system is conspiracy. Thats what the investigation is about. There is evidence to suggest its happening, and yet you ignore or downplay it.

>Comey was incompetent because he was never an agent
Im sure his distinguished decade long career was a fluke then

Also, what fucking emails are you reading? Clinton's private server contained retroactively classifed information about news articles published in this country. She's guily of being an old out of touch politican, something they all share. What crime did she commit that theres so much evidence of?
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>>380435195
>. Doing so as Russians fuck with the DNC,
And Sessions didn't do so. Re watch the hearings.
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>>380434839
>all muslims are evil

Youre just insufferable as the "all whites are evil" cunts
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>>380434546
>He keeps trying to mask his saltiness
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>>380426240
>Microsoft
>We're cool and we care about gamers.

This is bait right? Microsoft only 'cares' about gamers because they have one of the worst exclusive lineups of any console in recent memory.
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>>380435195
>Im sure his distinguished decade long career was a fluke then
See for yourself. Democrats want him dead. Trump did democrats a favor.

>Also, what fucking emails are you reading?
The ones you deliberatly omit because you're a cunt
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/donna-brazile-finally-admits-she-shared-debate-questions-with-clinton-campaign/article/2617742
"Veteran Democratic operative Donna Brazile finally admitted that she used her former position as a CNN commentator to relay questions ahead of debates to Hillary Clinton during the Democratic primary.

For months, Brazile has avoided confirming that hacked emails from the campaign showed her forwarding the questions, which were asked at separate debates. But in a new essay for Time magazine looking back on the hackings, she said it was true."
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>>380435265
He spoke to a rep from Russia as a senator with Trump concerning economic sanctions the US had on Russia. Then, when asked if he or anything else from the team talked with Russia after the election, he lied and said no. Flynn, Kushner and himself all spoke with officals from Russia.
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>microsoft wants to send their refugees to sony's nation
>surprised when they get a big no
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>>380435442
>Kushner and himself all
Not proven.

>Then, when asked if he or anything else from the team talked with Russia after the election, he lied and said no.
No one knew what flynn had done.
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>>380434746
Sony should hope xbox's desire to do away with Generations is true. Because sony as a company is propped up by their gaming division. If Xbox were to do to Sony what Sony did to Xbox pre xbox one launch E3, it would Destroy sonys place in the market at a time when being the industry leader with money to burn is important. xbox360 clearly dominated the previous generation, even with the RRoD, since microsoft has the money. And all of that Goodwill was Burned over the course of 1 E3 with Sony making a huge deal about used games. the market is fickle.
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>>380426240
So US is first in the crossgaming train and destroyed Japan´s pussy in that splatoon tournament last night, japans still stuck with 2D and super marios in 90´s while most murican 3D is already at CGI levels
Why asians are so obsolete? Theyre just born to fail miseralby
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>>380435520
According to Comey, every one did
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>>380435620
And comey perjured himself, admitted being one of the leakers, and let himself be influenced by loretta.
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>>380434050
see this is why Sony wins, even tho BGE2 wasn't announced for any platform, it could be a next gen game for 2020, mobile game or a MOBA on PC for all we know, you automatically assume that because it's a 3rd party game it's on PlayStation 4.
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>>380435426
Again, I don't like how he handled the emails, but he didnt do anything illegal. But Trump waited 6 months to fire him, just as the investigation was getting somewhere. Then he lied about why he did it.

>washingtonexaminer
Fake news, but ill bite. Wev all known Hillary is a slimly cunt. I havent liked her in 20 years. It didnt take a Russian hacker to prove her and CNN are tight, look at her campaign donations. That said, this isnt illegal, not at all jail worthy
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>>380435283
t. Muhammed
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>>380435283
>n-not all mudslimes

Go fuck yourself stupid leftist fuck.
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>>380435545
>since microsoft has the money
It wasn't even money, it was the exact same sort of shit Microsoft fucked up with this gen. Sony massively fucked up their reveal conference. FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS was a huge meme about PS3 for awhile, which was partially responsible for the other big meme, "PS3 has no games." Sony spent a generation playing catch up, though the difference certainly wasn't as vast as it is now. The POWER OF THE CELL shit didn't help either. Multiplats were consistently worse on the PS3, which helped drive those not loyal to any particular console brand to the 360.

Again, PR victory. All the 360 had to do was show up and not make the same dumb fucking mistake as the PS3 and it was an easy head start. I don't think Microsoft can pull off the catch up Sony did last gen, but who knows what direction we're going in now. Nintendo's even more out of the game than usual, and Microsoft and Sony seem to be in no hurry to make a real new console nor has the pro shown that it's going to make a large enough market to really justify dev time on PS4 Pro exclusive content.

There's also the factor that Microsoft consistently doesn't seem to like the dumpster fire aspect of the Xbox division. It can't just keep burning money with no tangible returns just to try and drive Sony further into a corner. Especially sense they're not even really pulling that off.
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>>380429398
Incompetence, first of all
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>>380435930
Nice shitpost XD
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>>380435920
>But Trump waited 6 months to fire him,
Because had he fired him prior to that date, he would have been roasted even more by the media. Trump waited the confirmation that he was not under any investigation to fire him. That's the whole point of firing him late. It's to make sure THERE IS NO OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
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>>380436089
But apparently it wasnt trumps decision! The attorney generals totally twisted his arm! He dindu nuffin! Paul Ryan said!
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>>380426240
How did this thread also become a /pol/tard spamfest?
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>>380426240

>Sony say no to race mixing

Knew buying that PS4 was a good choice.
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>>380436221
>inb4 the_donald

t_d subscribers PALE in comparison to the tens of millions of redditors subscribed to anti-trump subs. Couple that with leftypol and neofag users flooding this board and site too.
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>>380434142
>Steam machine
Think again.

Microsoft has been trying to turn Windows into its walled garden environment. They're not trying to make Xbox more PC like, they're trying to make PC more Xbox like. They want the Windows store to be your platform of choice, not Steam. There's a reason Steam supports all Microsoft's competition. They know a win for them, is the end of Steam.
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>>380436221
hahaha this screenshot oh wow

you just have to write nigger to make them flee

and were they to open a jordan peterson lecture, their worldview would be shattered
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>>380436221
you mean this board has been infested with right wing mongoloids since gamergate
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>>380436340
>SJW bring up Trump for no reason
>Other SJW blame /pol/ for Trump being brought up for no reason
It doesn't matter what anyone says, you fucking drones only have an us and them mentality. Me saying I don't give a shit about /po/ is something literally incomprehensible to your minds. I'm just so fucking sick and tired of how many SJWs are on /v/ masquerading as normal people.
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>>380436576
/v/ hated SJWs and leftists shoving their shitty agendas well-before gamergate. GG was simply the final straw.
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>>380436012
>proceeds to post decade old single study from one untrustworthy research center
Unfuck yourself you sheep. Islam isnt the problem, its fucks like you that constantly manufacture enemies. We were getting somewhere with drone bombing their leadership but no you fucks are galvanizing muslims to act out in violence, youre the ones radicalizing them. All we had to do is kill the ones who are beheading people but no you just had to turn it into us versus them. Dumb motherfuckers
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>>380436221
Ever since the election drumpfkins have swarmed into 4chan spewing their shit onto every board. Literally every board fucking hates how /pol/ has spread and it's not working as a containment board.
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>>380436576
if right wingers are mongoloids then left wingers are straight up retards
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>>380436221
Nigger has always been the most effective newfag and other undesirables detector. Anyone who objects to the use of the word, for any fucking reason, is clearly agenda driven. SJW care about airs far too much to concede on that and push their other agendas, so they'd never let using NIGGER so casually slide.
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>>380436780
it's not pol spreading, it's people turning pol
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>>380436809
Nigger nigger nigger

I want Trump impeached.

Your generalizations have no power over me
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>>380426368
Only people with no friends would say this
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>>380436916
now do that with your main reddit account
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>>380436751
>decade old study

It's from 2013 you stupud fuck. Islam holda backwards as fuck beliefs. They have not secularized or reformed like Christianity. Any attempt to do so gets you killed by Mudslimes and leftists go on to defend them.

>muzzies are only violent and primitive because the west is mean!

You are dumb as fuck. Even when countries like Sweden and Germany coddle Mudslimes, give them free benefits and spread their assholes to them, mudslimes still chimp out and kill people.

Are you aware most mudslimes in Egypt and Pakistan support killing apostates?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/01/64-percent-of-muslims-in-egypt-and-pakistan-support-the-death-penalty-for-leaving-islam/

Islam is a violent death cult. The Marxist filth who defend it to the fucking teeth because they see them as an ally against White people are batshit crazy.
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>>380436870
>it's people turning /pol/
Holy shit this has got to be the most deluded thing I've ever read. There was a swarm of /pol/ newfags during and after the election and if you deny this it only proves how deluded you are.
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>>380437016
Ive never been on reddit, frankly i have a hard time believing that commies from reddit would think they get anywhere on /his/. Not only have /pol/tards poisoned the place with your civil war and holocaust threads but any history scholar could easily point out how fucked communism is as an economic cornstone and how marxism as a philosophy doesnt make sense
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>>380433651
>Democrats are not afraid to disagree with each other and focus on doing what's right.
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>>380437175
>people coming to public places to talk about a presidential election is "pol tards coming to /v/"

take your pills
>>380437221
>you can't talk history on a history board

wew lads
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>>380436780
You are so fucking stupid. You are an obvious newfag.
This site as a whole was quite right-wing even before the 2016 election dumbfuck. The predacessor of /pol/ aka /new/ was deleted by moot because it was literally Nazi in its views. /v/ opposed leftist SJW agendas in games before /pol/ was even created. Since the election there has been rampant leftist shilling across the site, leftists flooding this site from reddit, neofag and leftypol as well as shareblue shills outnumber any t_d shitters on /v/. I've had people bitch and moan about the word nigger on here the past few days. This would never happen on /v/ back in 2009. Fuck off.
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>>380426614
Fine honestly, i have relatives there, but someone from /pol/ who has never been there told you its a war zone, so better believe him right.
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>>380436042
> I don't think Microsoft can pull off the catch up Sony did last gen,

they went from new kid on the block OG xbox to Xbox 360 leading the generation.

>Microsoft fucked up with this gen

what exactly did they fuck up? I watched it in real time many e3's ago, they literally got Trolled to death by their competitor.

their biggest mistake in my opinion was pricing to including a kinect. trying to jump onto the motion game fad with the success of the Wii which even Nintendo didnt understand. Trying to innovate into a market that turned out to be hollow. including a kinect to establish an install base. Might have worked....... if xbox was on top this generation.... might have made it easier to pave a path for VR using a kinect as a light tower.

> It can't just keep burning money with no tangible returns
it was probably good that they canceled Scale Bound and that shitty Fable game. I'd like to think someone at MS doesnt have shit taste and cancels shit games before they get to market.
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>>380433651
>Somewhere, someone is simultaneously this delusional, innocent, dumb and retarded

Hahaha wow! My day suddenly just got so much better!

Also, way to out yourself as a libtard 16 y.o. raider. Go back to Redbit.
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>>380433651
the democratic party is Corporatist.

dont lie to yourself or allow yourself to be lied to that they give a shit about anyones well being.

the previous election should have demonstrated that they are corrupt to the core, just like the republicans. Partisanship in this instance is the purest sign of Ignorance.
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>>380437326
>giant influx of newfags coming in during the election
>board quality goes down
>g-guys it's just people coming to public places w-we should be nice to newfriends

The amount of goalpost-moving is astounding. You'd literally say anything to defend /pol/fags
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>>380437062
Are you aware that the Taliban, Al Queda and ISIS ALL OPERATE IN PLACES LIKE EGYPT AND PAKISTAN. We killed Bin Laden in Pakistan, of course polls there are in favor of stupid shit. Those are the places to bomb. Im talking about Muslims that are already here who are sick of you being violently opposed to their existence. They dont get coddled ANYWHERE BUT IN ARABIC COUNTRIES. It's "not being mean :(" but harassing daughters on public transports that might make a man go kill someone.

>a violent death cult
Ive read the Quran and two award winning biographies on Muhammad, one western and one eastern. Its no different than the bible in terms of violent death cult. Youre letting dipshits fill your dipshit mind with more shit. Educated yourself. ISIS has a goddamn professional magazine they publish. Their #1 recruiting tool is "they already hate you, but god doesnt."

Just fucking let live here, its not hard. We can win this fight if you dont fuck it up
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>>380437727
pol literally did nothing wrong
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>>380437513
The PS4 PR victory wasn't some masterstroke by Sony. Literally the only thing they did was "lol you can play used games" and then quietly scuttle their own RnD on such systems. Microsoft set up its own banana peels and then fucking slipped all over them saying "if people want an offline console they can use the 360." How someone let such a fucking boneheaded line pass through their lips into a public discussion is baffling.
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>>380437727
>This much misdirection into /lol
Wew lad, don't let that raid of yours fall to shit under your own retardation !
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>>380437326
Youre from /pol/ and you go to /his/ to talk about politics. Kinda like how were on /v/ talking politics.

See the problem yet?
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>>380437362
Exactly. moot deleted /new/ then realised all the alt-right conspiracy fags just started shitting up other baords so he made /pol/ to contain them.

During the election Trump supporters needed a safe space hugbox so they went to /pol/ and now they act like 4chan is their safe space and get triggered when their off-topic bullshit gets called out.
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>>380437727
How can you retards think this pathetic tactic of yours is going to work on 4chan? Literally all you have to do is read the last 50 posts on this thread to realize you guys are raiding us.

Way to prove what everybody already knows : leftists are dishonest shit bags who think no low is low enough to be off limits. You're the sorriest excuse for a human being as can be. You're a shit stain in out Gene pool.
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>>380438131
>were the victim

Read the first 50 posts. Youre the one unwelcome here
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>>380426368

>Not wanting to rekt consolebabbies with your superior PC. LOLing at your entire outlook on life my senpai.
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>>380437929
>>380437848
/pol/ newfags that came here during the election has ruined this site more than anything else.
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>>380438129
Did you even read the post you're responding to? Or is your reading comprehension that much affected by cognitive dissonance that you agree to a post that shoots down your argument just so you can put your argument forward ?
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>>380437790
Are you fucking aware that the survey asked a randomized sample of the general popukace? Not fucking ISIS members?

Islam is not backwards as shit because of the west dumbfuck. It's backwards because Mudslimes by far and large take the Koran literally as the perfect word of god and follow its rules in a literal sense. Gays are routinely killed, people killed for leaving the religion, etc.

This doesn't happen in Christianity by far and large because it reformed and secularized. Even Mudslimes thay immigrate to the west still hold backwards views. ONE IN FOUR mudslimes in the UK sympathize with terrorists: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1494648/One-in-four-Muslims-sympathises-with-motives-of-terrorists.html

Islam cannnot be reformed because of dumbfuck leftist apologists like you. Nobody can criticize the religion or even draw a picture of Mohammed without Muzzies going batshit crazy. I implore you to fucking KILL YOURSELF.
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>>380438228
Kill yourself , redbitor.
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>>380438131
>literally every board says /pol/ shitters are cancer
>m-muh false flags, l-leftypol is raiding guis

It's hilarious to see how deluded you retards are when you leave your /pol/ hugbox. It's like any opinion except yours is a conspiracy. The rest of 4chan hates you, get used to it.
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>>380437942
history and politics are intertwined
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>>380437861
> wasn't some masterstroke by Sony
i think it was by accident and a few lucky advertising deals. like how a lot of ads for Destiny didnt reveal that it was also on Xbox. I remember being in parts on Xbox Live hearing people say they were going to buy a PS4 for Destiny because they were the standard idiot that doesnt to any research before buying something.

if i can tl;dr my posts its that Sony should keep doing what its doing. Dont making any Radical hardware changes, keep cross play Off, keep throwing money at devs for exclusives, make changes in the background, not publicly, keep everything standard and boring and dont think outside of the box, else risk bankrupting sony as a whole.

but as a gamer that doesnt like wasting money on systems for 1 game.... i want everything to be multiplat and on PC. the faster Nintendo and Sony die the better.
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>>380437861
>How someone let such a fucking boneheaded line pass through their lips into a public discussion is baffling.

because it's fucking microsoft and that was the company line. mattrick was just the fall guy when it blew up in their face.

how anyone ever want to microsoft to win anything is beyond me, ffs you just need to look at the last 20 years or the whole windows10 shit - why would anyone voluntarily want that in the console space?
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>>380426240
Microsoft: We'd be happy to do cross-play with Sony. We're cool and we care about gamers.
Sony: Sorry but your service is filled with child predators, you stay the hell away from us

Based Sony protecting the kids. Pedophiles BTFO
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>>380426614
>xenophobia called out as irrational
>instantly jump topic to islam as rationalization for all xenophobia
I agree with your view of Islam anon but come the fuck on.
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Why would we want to crossplay with the losing side who rejected us last gen? We've been crossplaying with real niggas at Steam since 2 gens ago, don't need anybody else. WE INVENTED THIS SHIT.

Microsoft don't even let cod players on Windows 10 play with steamfags
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>>380426240
Sony also said no to free mods.
Now they are in bed with Bethesda and are going to take a cut from PAID MODS 2.0.

SONY=cancer
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>>380439242
>controller players vs mouse and keyboard players in a shooter
There's a reason they're kept separate you retard.
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>>380438424
Your picture proves you have no fucking clue what youre talking about. That Imam is probably Shia, if hes bring up Karbala. ISIS and the rest are Sunni, the guys the killed Muhammads family. Of course hes butthurt about that. The Quran doesnt teach murder, it even preaches tolerance to christians, but you can bet Shia are quick to bring up Karbala when a Sunni does something wrong

>the telegraph and washingtonpost know EXACTLY what muslims want

Okay m8. Tell me, who is most likely to respond to survey? The most opinionated. How can you tell a civilian from an insurgent? You cant. Its pretty likely ISIS members did in fact answer your survey done by rightwing dudes who asked civilians in Al Quadaland.

You dont even know what the Quran is, how can i explain how youre wrong?

Ill make it simple. The Quran is a recitation of a guy named Muhammad, its a story about how gaberiel told Muhammad what god wanted out of him and arabs. It, in all likelihood, is a fabrication made by a man sick of greedy arabs and a stagnant culture. He doesnt call for the death of gays or apostates, it doesnt invoke hated of anybody. Its "moses taught me how to haggle with god" and "get the fuck out of my tent"

Islam cannot be reformed because you demonize all of them, even the reformest ones. Your dumbasses look at the religion, and think its "evil christianity". Your understanding is no different that it was in 1095
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>>380439397
Windows 10 is PC retard
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>>380438663
To an extent, but you guys just make shit up and call it history. Its called "a redpill"
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>>380439647
Picard lives in the world I wanna live in. Where you dont exist.
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>>380439536
Wow fuck I need to go to bed.
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>>380428287
>RL has Xplatform with PC too by the way
This will probably change. I can imagine them scrapping it so that they can keep cross play between PC, Switch and Xbone neat and tidy.
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>>380439767
>I wanna live in a world that doesn't give a shit about religion
>gets butthurt when someone even questions islam
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>>380428420
Are you being serious?
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>>380439940
>arrays entire political philosophy against a religion, its people, and aligns one self with the people actively wanting war with a religion
>questions

Oh yeah im real sensitive
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>>380426834
Well there's still less shootings than in America so bretty gud actually
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>>380440114
is it really an issue when it's gangs shooting each other for the majority of the shootings?
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don't really want to make a new thread for this, but I was just skimming through the microsoft e3 stuff because i cbf watching it all.
the guy there mentions trueâ„¢ 4k on xbonex
is it actual 4k, or is it the not really 4k 4k that the ps4 has
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>>380440312
XD
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>>380440314
The way i took it was that it is actual 4k and it was a dig at Sony, like how Sony took a dig at them about sharing games.
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>>380439494
>islam doesn't teach murder!

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/apostasy.aspx
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx


>Quran (2:191-193)-"And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah[disbelief or unrest]is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah[disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah]and worship is for Allah alone

>Quran (3:151)-"Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

>Sahih Bukhari (52:260)-"...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

>Sahih Bukhari (83:37)-"Allah's Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations: (1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,) (2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate."

Take your taqiyya and shove you fikthy Islamic fuck. Mohammed spread his religion through violent conquests and murder. He was a warlord. Islam is spread through the sword and fircible conversions.

>hurr western propaganda
It's a randomized sample you dumb fuck raghead.

Christianity was reformed through writers mocking it, mocking people who take the bible literally and attacking the catholic church, popes, etc. Do the same for Islam and you'll get fucking killed. Islamic terrorism kills more in a month than the Inquisition did over centuries.
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Can you retards fuck off to /pol/ and leave us manchildren to talk about video games. Fuck me, you're a bunch of annoying cunts.
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>>380426614
It's a fucking mess, don't listen to all these cucks.
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>>380438424
>This doesn't happen in Christianity by far and large because it reformed and secularized.
You mean it was reformed and secularized.
And in America it's full of priests who say that natural catastrophes are the punishment of god against gays and shit, let's not even forget the waves of murders of pro abortion doctors and all the shady shit the church is involved with, from protecting pedophile rings to banking scandals, so don't act like catholics are any better just because they've been coerced by governments to fuck off, christianity isn't really any better and only a tool would have the intellectual dishonesty to pick some extremists in one religions and say that every follower is like that while also being an apologist for another organized religion that does exactly the same shit.
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>>380428281
>Halo is back to its roots
The new mechanics make the gameplay unrecognizable for a halo game
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>>380440301
It is when there are cases of mistaken identities and the wrong people being shot
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>>380433314
believfefe*
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>>380441050
Those fucking pastors saying shit is not the same as action. You don't see hordes of christians in the south stoning gays. Compared to any Islamic country, being gay in Alabama is like being gay in Sweden. Christianity is much better because they aren't going around killing people. Deaths from abortion clinic attacks are in the single digits since the past decades. Mudslimes kill 10x more in a fucking day.
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>>380441464
well what if those people are also POCs?
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>>380441563
>Christianity is much better because they aren't going around killing people.
sure about that, buck'o?

What was the iraq war? What was the afghan war?


You deserve all the terror.
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>>380440471
Youre reading the Medina parts, after a jewish tribe betrays Muhammad and tries to get him killed. 7th century justice is anything but

The other half are hadiths, basically interpretations on interpretations.

Of course he was a warlord, he had to be. So did his successors. Again, you havent read or studied anything, so you know nothing. Islam wasnt spread through fire and brimstone, but through tax laws after they kicked the door down on the rotten Perisan empire. Its actually fascinating and ingenious how they converted the zoasterians

Also, im not Muslim, im an atheist, my names Evan and I live in Montana. I study history and i hate people like you. My mom tried to bring me up protestant, but all my pastors were idiots like you, who constantly fucked up history in convient ways, like how you fuck up the truth in convient ways.

Christianity was not reformed by people mocking, or do you know nothing about christianity too? The 30 years war killed millions, and that was entirely a chrisitan affair where good chrisitans rape and killed other good christians because popery. Religion is not violent, but people are. Dumb people even moreso.
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>>380441654
yes those wars were done in the name of christianity. yep, the pope called america to go there and fuck those muslim up.
you fucking idiot.
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>>380441563
Fuck you dude. People are attacked in the street in Montana for holding hands with the same sex. You dont know anything, especially since the reason you dont stone gays is because you fucking right wing bastards couldnt bear the shame of actually proving that the rest of the civilized world is right about you
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>>380426240
Well, as long as I can play with my friends on PC, PS4 can fucking rot.
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>>380441580
Everyone's a bit of a cunt at some point does that mean we should just say fuck it and nuke the world?
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>>380441928
The private contractors were led by a christians family with foundations and money with churchs, who called it "a holy duty". Same people who fired into the streets of the people were trying to win over. But no, theyre the violent ones

The war was conducted with littler zero knowledge of the people, the culture, or the religion. We tried using literally one of the holiest place (karbala) as a staging grounded. We nearly had to mow down a wall of civvies. But no, theyre unreasonable,

Bush called it a crusade.

But no, it wasnt a christian affair
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>/v/ is liberal
lmao that's a new low
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>>380441563
>Those fucking pastors saying shit is not the same as action.
It's actually the same exact shit since people listen and go on shooting sprees.
>You don't see hordes of christians in the south stoning gays.
But you do see them shooting pro abortion doctors and other people.
>Christianity is much better because they aren't going around killing people.
[citation needed]
But yeah, christianity sure is better with protecting their own pedophile rings, not paying taxes on real estate, getting money from taxpayers, inciting wars and civil disobedience on behalf of your sky goblin.

Fuck off christcuck, you're literally the same shit as radical mudslimes, even worse since you defend those bloodsucking shitstains who run your churches.
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>>380441805
>study history and still take muslims cocks like a good cuck.

If you were anything worth your salt you'd have found all the goddamn wars of expansion and aggression made by muslims that make crusades a complete joke and how the slave trade of European women across the Mediterranean was the biggest blight on Europe for centuries, how the Ottomans expanded into Europe to spread their dogshit and religion and would have infested the Balkans if it weren't for the Habsburgs and Poland decisively kicking their sandnigger ass back where it belonged. In term of sheer violence, Islam remains unrivaled, especially in the modern world.

We can just forget their shitty past if you want and judge them on their actions, which is telling indeed; mass protests in the West, constantly forcing the native population to accept their dogmas and culture (Sharia), harboring terrorists and crying NOTALLMUSLIM when their religion is the ONLY MODERN ONE still doing religious wars of aggression. A few good moderate muslims are not worth it, Islam is fundamentally incompatible with democracies, especially when you realize what happen when a country demographic change into a muslim majority.
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>Sony asks Microsoft the same thing last gen
>Microsoft says no
>Microsoft comes crawling to Sony now that they've shat the bed
>Sony says no
>"See? Sony is the bad guy here. We dindu nuffin"
Bravo Microcock.
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>>380442059
no but if the POCs want to slaughter each other...
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>>380442834
>that first fucking paragraph

Alright here we go. The Muslims did expand aggressively. So did every empire before it, for the same reason. Romans, Persians, Byzantine, Frankish, i think we can give a pass to muslims for doing it too. The "Mediterranean slave trade" isnt as big a deal as you think, muslims didnt go north to steal white women, but rather slaves were likely purchased fairly. The christians had slaves and slave trades too, and they would sell their own too. It worked both ways. The biggest blight on europe at the time were themselves, hell the crusades were organized to keep the european kingdoms from going to war with each other again. The Pope fabricated some atrocitiy and off the nobles went.
>Islam unrivaled in violence
In the 1st crusade, the crusaders literally sacked a town and ate its inhabitants. There are maniscripts explaining that eating pagans in holy war was okay and forgiven. Dog was eaten, but only as a last resort. This was after the crusaders raped their way across bulgaria, good thing christians were there to defend those poor balkans. So no, i can think of worse atrocities done by christians to muslims.

In the modern world? In terms in publicity yeah, but the christian warlords in africa dont get much press though, so it might be close.

>the second paragraph

Youre only right about the only religion engaging in holy wars, everyhting can be said equally of christians. There are domestic terrorists in Montana that go to church and attacked gays and nonwhites. I see mass protests from trump supporters more from Muslims in America. I have never seen any Sharia related thing in America, nor any offical enforcement of Sharia in europe. For the record, Missoula MT accept syrian refugees, so if all muslims are sharia obessed monsters, then at least kne bombing shouldve happen already. It hasnt, and missoula is liberal as fuck.

You are wrong, plain and simple.
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>>380426587
I'm pretty sure you can't play with them in Matchmaking
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>>380426368
Poor sonybabbys
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>>380442834
>In term of sheer violence, Islam remains unrivaled
You probably never studied history on any level if you come up with something as retarded as this, not surprising though since you're an ignorant christcuck who'd believe every little lie told to you by your overlords, gotta find an enemy to justify your own worhtless existence after all.
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>>380426464

>not wanting subhuman foreigners ruining your country
>irrational fear

Pick 1.
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>>380430227
>There 7-10k muslims protesting against islamic terror today in cologne.

[citation needed]
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>>380444218
>In the modern world? In terms in publicity yeah, but the christian warlords in africa dont get much press though, so it might be close.

The scale is completely different. Cannibalism is a regular occurrence in Africa but those warlords do not have worldwide influence, unlike muslims. The sheer numbers of militants Christians are heavily subdued, with only a few rare incidents in America compared to all the mess of terrors attacks in the West, without even counting their aggression in Hindu countries!


>Youre only right about the only religion engaging in holy wars, everyhting can be said equally of christians.

Wrong on all levels. Christians aren't invading muslims countries en mass in the guise of ''refugees'' who are all suspiciously military-aged men refusing to be absorbed by nearby islamic countries and instead flee toward prosperous Europe and America to enjoy charity while spreading their dogmas.
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>There are domestic terrorists in Montana that go to church and attacked gays and nonwhites.

There are muslims slaughtering French comic makers and driving trucks in busy streets during national holidays.

>I see mass protests from trump supporters more from Muslims in America.

I see mass protests in UK from muslims wanting to enforce Sharia Law.

>I have never seen any Sharia related thing in America, nor any offical enforcement of Sharia in europe.

Because muslims are not strong or numerous enough to enforce it but there are many, many no-go districts in Germany, France and Britain that are little more than self-governed Sharia countries which the police has no influence over.

Islam has a long, long history with the West that embraced Christianity and this past make it impossible for both religions to coexist; it's only possible to tolerate muslims when they are in their own sovereign countries but that's impossible because Islam demand the blood of infidels and to rule the world, whilst Christianity has at least dropped this pretence.
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