XIV

>just prepping for SB

Farewell, Heavensward

>PLD has his own personal lolicat to protect

Get fucked DRKfags

>>380425084
She's everyone's gal.

>>380425084
Soon everyone will, you just have to get 3 lines

>>380425084
We have already been there and done that, PLD is late to the party.

It just dawned on me that i should probably be getting some level 60 SAM gear so i can actually do the early level 60 quests in SB without getting raped (Obviously 50-60 is in POTD)

I dont have a monk though so i cant roll on stuff. Am i just stuck with spending my Lore on whatever stuff i can pick up and maybe some hunt gear?

>this is what plds mains believe to be
Lmaoing really hard pals

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>>380425251
>tfw ultra jew and will just buy it off the MB

>>380425396
You'll certainly be able to just get vendor gear my man

>>380425396
Just wait until after release and spend Poetics for the gear instead. You DO have Poetics capped right anon?

>>380425396
If you have tomes to spend, sure.

Or just get vendor gear. Or even better, the HQ gear for the MNKs that quests will drop - unless of course they drop from the same quests that drop your Main's gear

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WOW IT'S FUCKING

N O T H I N G
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I wonder if Lore and Scripture will have the same exchange rate or if one will be worth more or less than the others

>>380425271
No that was SIgurdo loli, not ours.

>>380424724
Holy shit can I glamour a mi'kitten onto my shield

>>380425598
oh fuck yeah i forgot about that

yeah i do

fuck yeah im relaxed now. Maybe i'll rice BTN to 60 today instead because i fucking hate myself

I didn't watch the E3 liveletter - anything major come out of it or did we get more please understanding

patch notes when

>>380425779
smn was confirmed as shed dweller on first leaks my dude

>>380424724
lmao, I thought this was a fan parody of the HW countdown image but that's hosted on Lodestone with the same file name. That's just perfect, really encapsulates the direction the game has gone.

>>380425880
It was mostly Balmung begging for glamors as usual

>>380425976
And they got them.
http://imgur.com/a/s79md

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>>380425982

>>380425396
It's a little late to get together a decent set unless you have a lot of tomes and tokens hoarded.

>>380425960
>cute cat girls are problematic and too japanese :( i'm going back to wow

Time to start heavensward

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>>380426074

>>380425779
>>380425937
>SMNs get the "real summon" they've always begged for at the expense of the rest of their kit

No sympathy seeing as how SMNfags have always been some the biggest pissbabies around

>>380426129
Swing and a miss, retard. お前たぶん日本語できないだろう?

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I FOCUS ON THE PAIN, THE ONLY THING THAT'S REAL

this one change makes me want to drop SMN

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>>380426170

>>380426170
>tri bind
>potency: 30
:D

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do you think we're going to get any actual Samurai Armour as opposed to robes and stuff?

It's actually kind of hard to make a good looking SAM i've discovered

If you want non fuckboy features and facial hair you have to pick Highlander - but Uplanders have the shaved sides + knot hairstyle which is classic Samurai

Highlanders have a kinda top knot thing going on but it has fucking hairclips - i just want a manly looking man with SAM hair

>smnshit again
No one cares.

>>380425982
>shadowflare's duration is now a quarter of its CD, not half like initially said
Ouch.

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>>380426253

>>380426270
The raid gear is Japanese armor. And a modern topknot is not a classic chonmage so I wouldn't worry about authenticity.

>>380425982
>bane is complete shit
sch got so cucked it's not even funny

>>380426342
it deals the same amount of damage as it always has though, which is arguably better since the total damage is dealt twice as fast

>>380426342
It has twice the potency, it's the same thing you retard

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>>380425982

>this bane nerf

Why?

>>380426343
is this stuff from E3? also is there more stuff for other jobs? sauce pls.

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>>380424724
Huh

>>380426537
Homogenizing DPS' AoE capabilities and reducing healers' (Scholar's) DPS. It's all in line with Yoshida's dumbing-down design philosophy.

>>380426606
Full ability lists have been officially available a few weeks now. Google.

>>380425982
why would you ever want to take a SCH in 4 man content? This is so fucking retarded. WHM and AST aoe is unchanged (and both already dealt significantly more aoe damage than SCH) and their answer is to leave them alone and kick the shit out of SCH's aoe?

Why? What purpose is served? This doesn't even impact meta either since aoe is irrelevant in progression. It's nothing but a kick in the dick to people who want to play SCH or sub-level 60 SMN in dungeons.

>>380426696
those are not the same ones that have been available for weeks for wathever man, already found it.

>>380426418
unironically dropped SCH as soon as i played that and picked up AST

I've played SCH since the moment i started the game but i dont see why i should have to work twice as hard for the same dps and worse healing

AST is fucking faceroll and looks absurd in SB

>>380425868
no you want to glamour her behind your shield

>>380426832
>AST was already pulling away towards the end of HW
>buff it even more!

I don't understand how they got the tanks so right while fucking up this badly on the healers

>>380426696
>Full ability lists have been officially available a few weeks now. Google.
These are taken from the final build though, they're new. Which is why everyone is :O and ;_; about them.

>can't even run their own countdown properly
>"calm down and trust us you dumb fucks!"
LMAO

>>380426796
Overall healer DPS will be nerfed until it's all in-line and low, be assured. The community has amply demonstrated this is what it collectively wants.

>>380426832
>>380426696
This is just ridicolous since bio2 + miasma is only 70 potency AT SINGLE TARGET while gravity and holy are both 100 AT LOWEST
What a fucking joke.

>>380426686
that is one thicc fucking cat
is the guy a DRK or a PLD? I feel like the sword isn't big enough for a DRK

>>380427068
That's the price you should pay when you have an AI doing your nominal job while you do something else in easy content.

>>380426606
Yes, the summoner tooltips are from e3 and likely final.

>>380426960
>DUDE lets give AST WHM tier Healing and SCH tier Shielding in SB and bring SCH damage down to AST tier too LMAO

Healing in general in FF is just fucked though. Healing is way too efficient the potencies are so high. The game is designed around MASSIVE BURST DAMAGE, MASSIVE BURST HEAL TO FULL

This leaves no room for a real throughput healer like WHM. It's a victim of the 'healers are expected to DPS' mindset - there has to be time built in for them to do so, so the only way they can is to make Heals absurdly %HP efficient so everyone tops off instantly so you can merrily go back to dpsing

>>380427039
Yeah, well, it's the exact same thing he said about WAR, AST, BRD, and MCH balance. Every time in the end he makes slow incremental buffs to address what the player base mathematically proved from day one or earlier, every time he bullshits and mouthbreathers leap to his defense shouting about player entitlement.

>>380425982
>SCHs now have shit healing and shit damage
Fucking yoshi fix your game
This isn't even as funny as WHM, just sad.

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So now that SMN is confirmed kill, will BLM or RDM be the more desired (lol) caster?

Wish they would incorporate the DoH jobs in raid.

Like for example one area has you having to fend off an exceptionally tough boss and you have until you reach a river before you get overwhelmed but if you have people who are Carpenters they can use crafting to try and repair a wooden bridge whilst the others fight the boss. If successful you can cross the bridge and buy some more time instead of being crushed by the boss or you complete that boss fight altogether.

Or another instance where you have an NPC ally with you but he is too beat up. One of you can use Alchemy to try and brew a potion to fix him up to join you making the upcoming boss battle easier for your team.

48 hours

>>380427076
It's PLD AF2 and supposed to be their relic weapon as well though it's a bit off-model.

>>380427183
>casting a regen or having a healbot do the sane justifies nerfing aoe damage of one more than twice the one of the other

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>>380426270
We already have and are.

Also git gud

Samurai were all manlets anyways

>>380427253
I'd be ok with incorporating things like healing a dude up with an alch potion or a CUL meal and he gives you a little loot chest like in brayflox, but anything more than that would be silly.

>>380427205
>MASSIVE BURST DAMAGE
An even better response to this is mitigation, because sometimes the burst is so much that you can't survive it with any kind of heal. This means SCH and AST shields/damage reduction are always better than WHM's plain heals

>>380427184
neat, only other shit I found is shadow fang still having slashing and noct ast shields being 250% (don't know if the potencies have been changed, I think so). Shame there's no more stuff for other jobs but patch notes should be out soon I guess.

>>380426253
>Ahk fucking Morn
>Still suffers from damage falloff
l m a o

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Step aside SMN cucks. BLM here to reclaim our throne as AoE King and Single Target King for casters.

>>380427253
That sounds rather token. I don't think anyone would have fun doing so.

>>380427362
Well, hey, Nidhogg's did too.
:^)

>>380427232
Flare is also as fucked as bane

>>380424724
What the hell are you guys talking about?

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WHM still the cutest healer tbqh

>>380427362
After all you split the damage in T13 :^)

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Whatever changes SCH and SMN get, they won't be able to be as cucked as MCH.

>>380427387
SMNs deserve to be trash with all the bitching they do

>>380427205
This wasn't a bad thing, though. The 2.4 - 3.1 era where DPS did highest damage and tanks and healers did 50 - 80% of that but had the minor responsibilities of aggro/healing was a fun game.

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>>380427340
the hair in that is more fitting perhaps but the 15 year old boy features and wispy moustache is terrible

I'd rather have my shogun facial hair and have to deal with slightly worse hairstyles honestly. At least Highlanders look like warrior men.

>>380427470
>Flare
>when Foul and T4 exist

>>380427458
>>380427487
Why are dragons a threat again? Just make a giant robot made out of people so everyone splits the damage to the point its so low its like a tickle.

>>380427362
>Ahk fucking Morn
>Still suffers from damage falloff
Why do you think you had to stack together when Nid was using it?

>>380427209
At the very least in this scenario we can argue that White Mage is a healer and that balance for them is at least slightly more ambiguous than the extremely simple math of Bard and Machinist, or even Warrior back in the day.

But in the end, the meta still comes down to DPS. Diurnal Astrologian provides roughly 10% less healing throughput and worse crisis control than White Mage due to not having the super high amount of oGCDs, but provides cards.

At BEST you could argue what we have now is a balance situation like tanks in HW, where it's just WAR + PLD/DRK, only now it's AST + SCH/WHM, and just like in HW, it's pretty obvious who provides more DPS to the group between SCH and WHM.

>>380427496
>SMN getting raped across their entire skillset
>one of MCHs new abilities is shit
not really comparable at all is it you idiot

>>380427470
>Flare is also as fucked as bane
lol Flare is only reduced up to 30% now.

>>380425976
But there wasn't really anything about "glamour"
I guess this is the go to bait about live letters?

They did show some of the new gear though

>>380427470
it's fucked on 3-enemy pulls maybe

>>380427496
>Trash is about to die
>Blow up my bishop to finish them off
Seems fine to me senpai

>>380427584
If chain stratagem is cucked in the final tooltip, AST/WHM will be the meta.

Does BLM even have any utility?

>>380427496
>implying im not going to use kamikaze to take sweet screenshots of blowing up badguys with my back to them

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>>380427534
>saved the name Sanjuro Tsubaki
>can't even look like Toshiro Mifune

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Where were you when SCH became irrelevant?

>>380427671
No, it has the same tooltip as bane now.

>>380427719
It's not exactly bait, LLs do field a lot of bullshit 'male bunny suit' type questions.

>>380427584
AST is just fucking whacko. Like you said, it brings slightly less healing/mitigation in Diurnal but it brings a fairly consistent 10% Damage increase to the raid (lets say 5% overall to be mean) and can still near instantly top off a raid anyway with Lightspeed > Aspected Helios > Helios > Helios

Honestly the first time i got an expanded balance and CO'd it on everyone i realised how fucking broken the class was. By the time it had worn off i nearly had a second expanded balance up.

>>380427076
PLD. The point was, both illustration countdowns for PLD had a catgirl in it

*tips shield*

>AST literally the same shit as before +1 AoE
>WHM is "you have to trust us"
>SCH is in the cuckshed

Will anyone be there to heal?

>>380427891
it doesn't. read the famitsu tooltips

>>380427826
The best we got is Mana Shift since lol infinite mp which could give PLD two more casts on Holy Spirit within their window. Other than that our damage could out wiegh the one buff that RDM brings.

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>>380427534
Or you could get over your bara fetish

>>380427826
None, they lost their only utility to cross role. RDM is looking like the best caster.

>>380427826
Manashift is uniquely suited to them because of their essentially infinte ammo. Could even see a scenario where BLM and RDM are bros because BLM can help alleviate RDM's supposed MP issues.

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>>380427939

>>380427870
>implying this community would snipe that name
Kirito Asuna, on the other hand . . .

>>380427943
I'm talking about the e3 build

>>380427470
>waaaaa i have to use 100 potency fire 2 that is higher with 3astral stacks, t4 and foul

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>>380427891
lol

>wanna abuse tank queues for the expansion but don't wanna do endgame stuff as a tank
>WANNA play rdm but don't wanna sit in queues for half of my playtime
Guess I'm fated to be a healslut

>>380427960
I'm not into Bara at all

All my characters thus far and in nearly every game have been cute girls

But female SAM just looks fucking retarded. I think i'll go with what i posted but try to fish for a better hairstyle

>>380427939
*vercures u*
i'm a red conjurer

>>380427939
Freedom to not DPS and stand around uselessly is what the vocal healers of the community have begged for over the last two years.

>>380428047
>>380428073
Learn to read also that one is wrong anyway.

>>380427814
That's very possible. An AST main I was talking to was actually talking about how Nocturnal Aspected Benefic's buff more enables a WHM/AST comp than it specifically makes AST itself shield king. Scholar still has Deployment Tactics so will always be the best at mitigating huge predictable hits.

Still, Scholar is only like 10% worse than White Mage at personal single target DPS. It's hard to imagine a 10% difference on one healer couldn't be overcome by Chain Strategem.

>>380427907
Yep, I'm not really sure how they could bring the other two up to snuff other than making Astrologian much worse at actually healing again, necessitating a stronger healer to cover their slack.

>>380427481
Post the fucking source this time you ruffian
I asked you last time I saw you post this and you never responded

>>380428227
Where is your source?

>>380428213
>vocal healers
>aka the NA community

Never listen to the NA community.

>>380427907
>Honestly the first time i got an expanded balance and CO'd it on everyone i realised how fucking broken the class was
Really? It's all the mobility that makes it ridiculous for me because expanded balance speeds up the run by such a negligible amount that it only matters to speedrunners

>>380428336
No, the vocal healers of the community in all regions. Sorry to tell you the Japanese data center is not the paradise Reddit tells you.

>>380427253
DoH/L jobs are already involved in raiding. Do you think the pentamelded crafted gear used in World Firsts just drop out of the sky?

>>380428135
Leveling queues aren't a big deal unless they are cunts and gate all the sidequests or the last currents behind an instance. Although the thing in HW was I tended to clear them out until FUCKING MOOGLES FUCK because it wasn't totally obvious which quests progressed things and wanted to check them off before the story moved forward.

>>380428397
I was talking about 8 man content - in 4 man i find it's better to enhance and put it on one of the better dps and hope the other one doesnt cry about it

But if you cant notice a consistent 5-10% damage across a raid you're really missing something

I'm still /nofriends/ so i haven't been able to try stuff like timing enhanced balance around a DPS players Cooldowns yet but im sure thats nuts too

>Enhanced Balance on a SMN that is in Dreadwyrm trance with Raging Strikes/Potion who puts up tri disaster and spunks out Ruin3/Deathflare

You get the picture

>>380427903
I don't plan to wear it myself, but they've spent WAY too long on that thing and need to release it like they promised 17 years ago. This goes to basic competence and meeting commitments as a business. Don't tell customers you're going to do something they know is simple and then sit on it for ages.

>>380428305
Famitsu tooltip actually.
https://www.famitsu.com/images/000/134/234/592da15fa42a6.jpg
https://www.famitsu.com/images/000/134/234/592daadf1c9de.jpg

Basically, Flare lose 15% potency to the next mob it hits, for a minium of 30% left.
While Bane is a minimum of 20% potency left.

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>"problem" was the overwhelming skill gap between good players and bad players
>yoshi's solution for this "problem" is to nerf everything across the board so everybody's damage is shit regardless of skill.

>1 day left
>PLD still at 56

Guess I'm spamming dungeons all day today.

>>380427903
This is true, but while nothing big came out of the E3 LL, people going "lol male bunny suit" just didn't watch it. There were a few interesting things. Mostly confirmations, little details, and showing off the important gear, like how Omega Delta's drops are the Genji sets.

>>380428687
nigga just do the vault

>>380428651
Yoshi is like a monkey's paw you don't even wish to.

>>380428651
Just tanks and healers. DPS jobs' DPS will increase along normal scaling.

>>380426074
>>380426170
If the famitsu tooltip is right:

Bane: -20% per enemy up to -80%
Deathflare: -10% per enemy up to -50%
Flare: -15% per enemy up to -70%
Foul: -10% per enemy up to -50%

The dropoff for SMN in e3 was the same as the famitsu ones.

If they got rid of ogcd dots then how am I suppose to multidot group of mobs?

>>380428651
Hey, welcome to WoW!

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>rip out half the whm kit
>replace with nothing
>give no utility
>give shit lilies
>people call yoshida out during e3
>"b-but m-muh raid scenarios"
>"p-please calm down and p-play at 70"

this fucking hack retard still doesn get it does he?

If i want to Name change/Fantasia before SB comes out i have to do it today right?

My weeb name is still up for grabs but i just cant settle on a fucking hairstyle

>>380428910
You don't have to do both at once.

>>380428910
What? Early access starts 2 AM PDT Friday. Other than that I don't understand what you're asking.

So, the overall nerf to AoE is simply because they want to pad out daily dungeons, right? It maters very little in raiding unless we get another "hilarious" Alex2.

>>380428603
That 20 potency nerf to Fire/Bliz 4.

Feels fucking bad man.

>>380428997
Correct. Don't pull multiple packs, respect the content, etc etc

>>380424724
Returning player here.

Just got back into FFXIV after having last played in 2013. I've got a 50 PLD and 30 of everything else. Although I've traditionally been a tank or melee DPS player in MMOs I'm considering going SMN or BLM once I get caught up in SB. Any advice on getting caught up, what's new in SB, and how SMN or BLM play?

>>380428852
>oGCD DoTs
Don't exist.

>>380428941
I know that but i'd feel pretty silly walking around as a Au Ra Fem with a male weeb name
>>380428982
Yes but the game is down all tommorow isnt it? So i either do it today or do it during valuable SB time

So with a huge chunk of WHM skills being gutted/reworked as cross-role, what will the job quest rewards from 30-50 be?

>>380429053
>respect the content

Make something respectable. Mass pulling was kinda neat imo.

>>380429013
>dude t w e n t y potency lmao
Fucking really? You know with umbral hearts you can cast more fire 4s and don't even have to jump back to UI to refresh enochian, right?

>>380429121
Circle of Scorn still exists!

>>380429062
What's new is too broad a question. Practical advice: don't buy expacs until you have cleared all story content up to them because they're gated. BLM is a stationary turret caster. SMN is DoTs, now punctuated by burst phases.

>>380428569
For leveling yeah, not bad at all. But then there's also the fact that the first tomestones are uncapped and grinding those via dungeons, or queueing to them rather, without friends as a dps will literally take forever.

>>380429121
So how am I suppose to multi dot groups then without mutilate/touch of death etc.?

Skipped every cutscene and dialogue

no fucking clue what the story is about

>>380429169
I agree. Massive pulls were the fun part of dungeons; even if it was designed such that massive pulls didn't save you that much time (although currently they do) at least it was fun.

>>380429256
I dunno, ask Yoshi-P.

>>380429183
lol

>>380429293
https://landofodd.net/ffxiv-arr-story-summary/

If you actually care to know about it and aren't just shitposting to bait for replies

I already miss the complexity and flexibility of HW rotations.

I really hope Meme Stratagem is nerfed to 10%, I rather play unfinished WHM than this pileshit of SCH

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I'm a healer RDM. Don't tell me how to play unless you want to pay my sub.

>>380429293
I think most people do. The ARR MQ is legit fucking garbage.

>>380429293
>guy in novice network is complaining that people will have no idea what the story is about if they use skip potions
Nigga. Almost everyone I know just skips past that shit. I actually care about the story so I watch it and read the quest text, but seriously, everyone in my FC and everyone on my friend's list has skipped it since day one.

>>380429304
You people act as though mass pulling isn't even possible anymore. Just more "sky is falling" bullshit. AoE is still going to be king unless they literally put gates behind every single pack.

>>380429304
>currently they do
Yes and no. Anecdotal experience (but I have the 10k dungeons achievement): ignoring other factors, with the same geared/skilled party, big pulls save 3-4 minutes over one at a time. So it adds up over the course of grinding, but in any single dungeon it's not a huge deal.

>>380429141
Nothing.

>>380429463
>>380429459
>>380429293
The fuck is this meme, I've never met a single person that skipped all the cutscenes. Mayb just a few for a particularly shit line, but never all of them

Servers go up at 5am EST, right?

That means it will be 12pm noon for me so I don't have to wake up super early.

>>380429480
Hopefully they remember to remove the dialogue that talks about the skills after the quest is done then

>>380429390
Is there something for HW? I forgot a lot.

>>380429513

I skipped maybe like 80% of them. I watched enough to have a general idea of the story and conflicts, but not enough to really care much about these clowns I'm hanging out with.

>>380429451
This shit was the worst in vanilla WoW. Shadow priests, balance druids, and retribution paladins were absolute cancer and telling them they sucked and should switch was always answered with a, "ignored. :) have a nice day."

Will it just be better to do the MSQ and the side quest or should I add in the roulette as well to hit 70 for Stormblood?

>>380429293
Same here. Already told all my friends I'm doing it for SB so if they want my tank queue cummies they can cry about it.

>>380429551
Bottom of the page has a link for HW but it only does 3.0 and not onwards:
https://landofodd.net/ffxiv-heavensward-story-summary/

>>380429468
>thinks about keeper of the lake
It's more likely than you think.

>>380428997
>incessantly run a couple of new dungeons each patch that we quickly get sick of having to run them over and ever for weekly token cap
>already full of walls and other shit to gate progress
>they want to slow us down even more, when rushing is the only thing that makes the grind bearable
>oh yeah, and for odd-numbered 4.x patches we're only getting one new dungeon to get sick of
It's like they're doing a psychology experiment to see how fast they can make the player base unwilling to use DR anymore. If they want the damn things to take longer, we'd better be capping weekly within three or four runs.

>>380429627
Oh no, thank you anyways.

>>380429551
Elves and dragons have been fighting a long time.
WoL and crew go to the boss dragon to ask them to stop fighting.
Boss dragon says 'you started it', he's right, elf pope covered up their bad deeds.
Elf pope goes into the sky and uses Allagan floating island to turn into knights.
WoL kills him and elf land is peaceful forevermore.

3.X patches:
The bad dragons get revived and killed again.
There's parallel dimensions, WoL kills parallel himself. Minfilia is dead and Hydaelyn is probably evil but you should have known that if this isn't your first FF.

>>380429479
4 minutes saved in a typically 20 minute dungeon is pretty significant, anon.

>>380425960
>direction the game has gone in
>paladin protecting people
???

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>>380429808
>Hydaelyn is probably evil


Thank you very much anon

>>380429809
Mathematically it can't be disputed, but experientially it doesn't feel like much. To contrast, in 2.0 you could do 10-12 minute speedruns before they nerfed the shit out of it, and that felt much more like pushing the envelope of speed.

60 BLM is an interesting job where your rotation moves along even when you AREN'T pressing anything. As in, if some bullshit forces you to move, you do that while marking off parts of the rotation in your head

With that said I won't miss it. I want to run around and do mechanics too, not just autistically watch a couple of timers

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Where's my fucking code, Amazon

Since SMN now has no GCD aoe attacks, how many enemies before casting tri bind is actually worth it over Ruin III (which is now only 150 potency)

obviously tri-bind is 30 potency so at 5 enemies they match potency, but tri-bind is a 3s cast vs the usual 2.5 for ruin III.

So six enemies+?

>>380429293
My cousin returned to the game for the first time since ARR came out and he had to do 2.1 > 3.56. The guy is so burned out on doing quests these past weeks he barely has any motivation to play Stormblood

I regret not telling him to just skip everything.

>>380429985
Chat with them through the support options, that's what I had to to today.

>>380429931
I dunno why but this made me think of the fear I had going into Amdapor Keep in 2.0 - just knowing that my gear was shit and stuff there actually had some mechanics that would punish you for taking too long was kind of intimidating.

>bought SB digitally
>Still not showing up on mogstation that I have EA

Should I /panic yet?

>>380430040
Maybe he should have ether started earlier, or just ignored the rush to Stormblood and taken his time.

>>380430040
Shouldn't have tried to catch up all at once.

>>380430174
pretty sure you have to input a code, which gives you another code to input in your mogstation

>>380430174
You need to put in a code from your retailer. If you didn't get it, you need to contact them.

Is Scholar the only job in stormblood that doesn't have a GCD aoe attack?

>>380430023
Until someone more qualified crunches the numbers, my gut says 7.

>>380427939
AST now has 80% of a crit adlo as their regular shield.

>>380430114
I think a significant part of 2.0 culture was players being new to the game (and many of them to MMOs in general) but I know what you mean.

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>Play Tank
>Some FC members who will go SAM/RDM get mad at me for wanting to take my time with SB and read the story instead of helping them leveling up and queuing for SB

>>380430225
>>380430264

I ordered through PSN and it said you wouldn't have to input a code or anything.

>>380430460
PS4 players don't have to do anything. It'll just be ready for you after patching.

>>380430431
Tell them to go fuck themselves. They got 4 weeks to get level 70.

>>380430504

Thanks man.

>>380430331
Yeah, it certainly was just a degree of unfamiliarity with the content and controls. Titan HM was also content considered hard enough that people would often buy wins. There was just no smooth, easy way to acquire gear, and so you actually had to attempt stuff that you weren't abundantly prepared for just to progress.

We've made some obvious quality of life strides forward since then, like putting Hydra/Chimera into the DF, but in some ways I kind of miss there not being the smooth, easy tomestone grind.

>>380429931
You can still do those kinds of speed runs now, though? It's not hard to achieve 10-12 minute speedruns in the current dungeons with geared and competent groups.

>>380430280
Yeah.

What's your Day1 plans?

>Go straight to pick up SAM
>Grind my soul away until 60 in POTD
>Run and grab some basic bitch gear with poetics
>Run merrily off into SB land

>>380430185
>>380430212
He has taken this time, it's been almost a month since he started. But the fact that you need to literally do over 300 quests kills a part of returning players and new players. He also wanted to play with me when Stormblood released so he didn't have much of a choice to speed things up by the end.

He will play Stormblood but I can't see him, returning players or new players who's going through 2.0 > 4.0 to stay around after that, majority is going to feel way burned out.

>>380430431
DPS leeches can fuck off. You're a tank, you're there to lead, not grovel.

susano'o looks so easy lads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHfDz0gtWXA

>>380426960
>>380427205
this is why I'm switching to tanking, was a SCH player as well

and I usually adore healing in MMOs

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>>380430695
>Normal Version
I wonder why....

>>380430652
Set my character and object count to minimum
Find some basic samglam and hole up in potd

I held back on stepping in potd for a month for this

>>380430652

Unlock SAM then level with a friend who just started.

How many more hours before the maintenance?

>>380425982
Nothing on the new SCH skill?
I wanted to know is that heal at 50% as a CD or not

>>380430652
>equip my greatsword
>be a total dick in dungeons and watch my party suffer since they can't kick me
There's no room for lazy healers in my groups.

>>380430593
The game indisputably took a turn for the worse in response to the community's whining about Titan HM (and Pharos). I've said it before that ARR through 2.1 shows a very logical (and gentle) progression of difficulty and instructive game design and I wish I could have seen them go on from there instead of bowing to player pressure.

>>380430771
I actually wonder why it doesn't say (Hard) anymore since most 8man trials do it and Normals were 4man back in the day

>HEY WHAT IF WE KEKED EVERYONE'S AOE OUTPUT
>PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO AOE ANYWAY
- Yoshida, not a genius

>>380430661
Good thing the game produces content slowly enough that there is always time to take breaks.

I barely have played at all for few months and only last week got back to do pre-Stormblood cleaning.

>>380430431
They are the ones who should poopsock to catch up, you shouldn't have to wait.

>>380430871
Because it doesn't make any sense to have a hard mode without a normal mode

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>>380430887
>lower AOE output for everyone
>third best AOE job gets no AOE nerf

>>380430771
Pls
Ravana hard and Bismark hard could actually wipe shitters.

>>380430714
I just dont like that i purposely picked one of the most in-depth classes with lots going on because i've played MMO's forever for it to be 'simplified' and kinda just gutted.

Everything SCH got in SB was pretty meh. Fairy Union looks kinda shit, and i honestly predict that doing like 80% overhealing. The AOE crit thing is just again, whatever, DRG already had it.

Then we get Bane nerfed for NO fucking good reason at all (lel SMN) and the biggest kicker for me is that they did NOTHING to fairies. There is still NO reason to pick Selene

>>380426170
>150 for one, 300 for both

THANK you.

>>380430695
>>380430771
Not only is it story mode, the trade show trials are always undertuned by an additional 50% less. A lot of the players are people who have never touched the game before, after all.

>>380430652
Hasty rush RDM and then slow down to clear the story at a normal pace

>>380430902
You returned a few months ago which means you don't know how crazy 2.0 > 3.56 is.

>>380430652
>unlock RDM
>switch back to PLD
>play premade of 3
>watch cutscenes
>kick lalas from dungeons

>>380430887
WHM is still the king of AOE tho.

As an AST is Collective Unconscious good to use?
Or is it better to leave it be?

>>380430771
The sad part is that in the live letter they said it has a 50% clear rate in e3

>>380430998
fey wind + aoe cleanse > overheals

>>380431184
It's alright. For the obvious use of prepping for big party-wide damage, and also abusing the regen status it gives.

>>380430652
Unlock RDM, Palace that bad boy to 60, and go straight into SB with it. I'll find vendor gear somewhere I'm sure.

>>380427549
We could give them a catchy name too like The Wonderful 101

>>380431184
You wan to use it as an extra regen or to mitigate a big incoming hit. Don't sit on it for the 15 seconds though.

>>380431237
>t. Duty finder ex roulette hero

>>380431090
It's a serious issue a lot of people are complaining about. The fact that they acknowledged the issue and instead of going back to trim the quests they implemented a cash shop item. A big fuck you to players basically.

I can see them doing a Cataclysm in the the next expansion(s) though.

>>380431218
Not everyone, nor indeed 50% of E3 attendees are FF14 players. Put yourself in the shoes of someone being challenged to a boss in a game of a genre you rarely or never play.

>>380430652
>Unlock lvl 60 BLM quest
>Start Stormsblood

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>>380431143
>WHM insane aoe potential is not nerf
>AST AOE potential is buffed
>Lol let's kill SCH AOE even though it already had the worst damage of the 3 healers in term of aoe

I don't get it.
SCH lost
Bliizard 2
Miasma 2
Bio
half the up time on Shadow flare

Why the fuck would they kill their damage even more?

>>380429171
>Can only be cast while under the effect of Enochian and Umbral Ice

Just cause it no longer refreshes Enochian doesn't mean that requirement was thrown out the window

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>>380430695
>trailer has sam block the huge sword
>actual fight has the tank do it

I logged on for the first time in like 4 months to prep. I got rid of so much useless shit in my bank/ bags and caught up with the story. I'm still missing a dungeon though.

>>380431371
It's a fair compensation for having the ai do your job :')

>>380431371
because you get le 20% crit up that contributes less than stone 4 spam ;)

>>380430998
>Fairy Union looks kinda shit, and i honestly predict that doing like 80% overhealing.

Fey Union is ogcd and you can turn it off after 2 ticks of healing. Fey Union combined with exco lets them keep dpsing during large damage spikes.

>>380431184
The sweetest situation is when everything is coming off cooldowns and you throw out aspected helios, aoe balance, collective unconscious, shroud of saints or whatever its now called and extend all of that shit by 10 seconds

>>380431237
Which has been relevant in .... what content exactly?

You cant fucking throw away Whispering Dawn, AOE Magic Damage down and AOE Heal potency boosting
>>380431184
Use it as part of your pre AOE prep.

If you're in Nocturnal go Aspected Helios > Disable > Collective Unconscious before the AOE goes off

If you're in Diurnal cut the Aspected Helios and do it after.

You can hold it for a few seconds after the AOE if you want since it does have a regen, but the second the aoe damage spike is mitigated everyone is going to run away from you anyway so you want to get your Aspected/Helios off quick

>>380431184
Shield then use it as noct, use it as diurnal, then cast aspected helios if diurnal and then extend the regen (or two regens) with CU

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That death flare nerf

It hurts.. it hurts

>>380426537
RESPECT
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>>380431365
I do remember them talking about how they didn't want to force players to go through Heavensward to access Stormblood. And then turn around and charge $25 for the privilege.

Which all in all is a damn shame, Heavensward MSQ is 95% great, very few missteps even across the patch stories. It's 60% of ARR's MSQ that's a godamn slog. Just remove/rewrite a bunch of the tedium quests, up experience for all MSQ shit, bundle HW with SB (which they've done), and call it good. It's clearly a shekels-hungry move to just say 'nah fuck work' and ask for a fucking huge amount of money to skip the game that you still had to buy.

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>>380430994
>Do story Ravana for the first time
>three people get shoved off the first time you can be pushed off

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>>380431650
>yoshi ruins pld by giving it aoe damage to disrespect the content

>>380431365
Going back and trimming the quests doesn't sound like the most trivial thing to do.

>>380431664
Well, it's $25 to skip ARR, and then an extra $25 to skip HW, so I expect most skippers to just skip ARR and do HW before SB.

>>380430652
Play as BRD or BLM because fuck going into POTD

>>380429293
>>380429459
>>380429463
>>380429616

If you skip cutscenes you should go back to WoW, which is obviously where you came from.

Thankfully, the vast majority of players still watch and care about cutscenes, I don't personally know anyone who don't. But there's definitely been a big influx of retarded wowbabbies like these guys.

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>>380431723
>Ravana only breaks 1 of the 8 or walls
>Someone still manages to get shoved out

>>380431462
>I got rid of so much useless shit in my bank/ bags
Felt good, didn't it. I have barely one tab of items in my inventory and some rare glam pieces on my retainer and that's it. I feel so free right now.

>>380430023
>>380430282

Tri-Bind costs less MP than Ruin III. I'll be using it at 6 enemies.

>>380430652
>try RDM
>if I like it get it to 60 and play story normally

>>380431802
Well, when you don't know you can get pushed by the shields.

>>380431792
No, fuck off, I hate WoW. Haven't played more than a few hours of it, and that was after a couple years of XIV. I don't like anime so the horribly written story that can always be boiled down to Ascians isn't appealing. Sorry faggot, you're wrong, not everyone masturbates to Yugiri and Y'shtola like you do.

>>380431846
I still feel like I can get rid of a lot more. I kept so much old armor and weps.

>>380431728
It's okay, he made up for it by nerfing most of the other AoE damage skills in the game
I'm surprised he didn't nerf Holy more with how much dick he's been feeding WHM

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>>380431610

>>380431886
>The story I haven't read is garbage!

>>380431420
>save up cds
>unload all your big dick bursts and rip enmity off the tank just as he goes into that phase
pshhh

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>>380430786
>Set my character and object count to minimum

>>380431979
Does SAM has any damage CD?
Beside that one kenki skill that buff up a weapon skill by 50%.

>>380431365
>It's a serious issue a lot of people are complaining about.
>there's too much story and content
I can' take this complaint seriously. I'm fine with jump potions. You wanna just to to the front with your friends? Alright, jump. Otherwise lots of content to play. I don't see how this is an issue except if you wanna play with friends and if you don't have friends helping you work out the details of it all or doing dungeons or other shit I mean what shitty friends.

>>380431974
I've read synopses. The only good arc was the Meracydian storyline which didn't really involve any cutscenes other than some revelations via Coil (all of which I also skipped). It's always just Ascians. Boring.

>>380432063
damage up CD*

>>380430695
>Someone blocking his sword
FUCKING
RAD

>>380430652
Break of out my cuckshed and level smn to 70 to enter a even smaller shed

>>380431735
18 for ARR and 25 for ARR and HW

>>380432036
Game hides players from you. Like you'll see only the 20 players closest to you or something like that

>>380431960
WHM is the dungeon healer for people who just started the game.
AST/AST is the raid comp.
SCH is the dumpster rat scurrying to find scraps outside Revenant's Toll 3.0

>>380430652
how many potd runs is 50-60?

>>380432185
>Double AST
>Hurting your LB gain for whatever reason.

>>380430652
>What's your Day1 plans?
Mainstory.
More mainstory.
Rest of the mainstory.

>>380432063
Nope, they have persistent self-buffs in Yukikaze, Jinpu, and Shifu, and one GCD potency steroid Kaiten, but no buff cooldown like Blood for Blood.

Aligning Guren and Midare with group buff periods should be a fun exercise in teamwork considering the current opener puts those two at 17s and 22s in.

>>380432165
But why? Palace is 4 players. Or is it for the outside?

>>380432241
>implying it matters enough to make you want to bring any of the other two problem jobs

>>380432185
>Bliizard 2
>Miasma 2
>Bio
>half the up time on Shadow flare
And the cherry on top of the cake,
>scholars don't get the upgraded dots

>>380432217
Many.

>>380432241
>needing lb in creator 4.0
enjoy your server last champ

>>380432217
probably like 40-50 runs of 51-60

Do we know where RDM and SAM start yet

>>380432067
Please read the reply chain before you post. It's not the the story or content, it's the tons of pointless quests added as padding. Adding a cash shop item to skip adds salt to the wound, how is that hard to understand?

They need to stop being lazy and go rework the awful early game.

>>380432326
If it never mattered people would have been doing Double AST from the start.

>>380431365
Maybe because plenty of people enjoy the long story?

I'll never understand people whose sole focus is to bumrush endgame, burning themselves out on quests, never trying to enjoy the story or leveling, never stopping to try anything else. What's so fucking amazing about endgame that you'll literally pay to get there? Is it the weekly lockouts? Tome grinding? 4 raid bosses every 3 months?

People blitz through all the game's content so they can get to the part with the least content, then spend most of their time logged off complaining they have nothing to do. Just find a different fucking game, instead of buying chocolate milk and complaining it's not lemonade.

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>>380432217

>>380432217
50 if t he keep the 50% exp buff and 25 if the increase it to 100%

>>380430593
2.0 was kind of a shit for newbies. You got to the final story dungeons and GOTTA GO FAST FUCK YOU.
Then you look at what you get if you get through that horsecock: GOTTA GO FAST KEEP, IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO TANK SAC EAT A DICK AND GTFO
All that so you could participate in the allegedly impossible Chimera and Titan trials to get your prize of an actual guaranteed weapon over like i55 even though some lucky cunt might get an i70 weapon on his first Garuda run or whatever.

I like the idea of its progression and had a lot of fun with the relic chain eventually but there was some big flaws and exploits in the game that made it really scary and offputting.

>>380432165
That's how PS3 plays 100% of the time with no option to improve it.

>>380432440
>Maybe because plenty of people enjoy the long story?
and then there are plenty of people who don't because 2.0 to 2.5 is bullshit. the fucking developers already knows it's an issue, hence the fucking potion you retard

Why do I need res as RDM? I am dps, ressing is healer's job

>>380432495
>10 minute runs
Literally how

>>380432594
i'd imagine it requires a small bit of luck with level layouts, but with 4 dps its totally possible

>>380432591
because the 3 samurai in every raid are going to die and the healers need some help to revive them.

>>380424724
That guy is cute, fuck chloe. He's gay and only using you for your WT

>>380432440
Not everyone cares about story. I've finished everything and have no idea what happened at all throughout the entire MSQ.
Leveling is an abortion, but duties are really fun.

>>380430695
>six digit damage when someone got hit by the big slash
i n f l a t i o n

>>380432594
>pull to the teleporter
>aoe shit down
>kill a random mobs until the tp activates if the pull wasn't enough

>>380432594
Did one earlier today. Tank pulled basically the entire floor, AoE it down, port, repeat.

>>380432594
premade that skips everything and only kills the bare minimum

>>380432067
THE 2.X """STORY""" """"CONTENT""""IS FILLED WITH GARBAGE FILLER FETCH QUESTS.

EVEN WHEN THE PATCHES WERE RELEASED THE GARBAGE FILLER WAS OBVIOUS AND OBNOXIOUS TO MAKE A 20 MINUTE STORY TAKE 2 HOURS BUT PEOPLE GAVE LESS OF A SHIT BECAUSE YOU WERE ONLY DOING ONE PATCH AT A TIME.

PEOPLE GOING THROUGH THE STORY NOW ARE DOING ALL THE GARBAGE FILLER AT ONCE INSTEAD OF HAVING MONTHS IN BETWEEN TO FORGET ABOUT IT.


FUCK YOU
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>>380426537

People mistook "necessary" as "overpowered" and then whined about how SCH was so amazing that they finally reacted and brought SCH "in-line." 90% of the 4.0 changes can be blamed on the community and no one else.

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People used to make fun of AST.
Now who's laughing?

>>380432648
>tfw BLMs are now just MP batteries for the other casters

how do I open up the novice network menu if I am a mentor?

>>380432697
Even when I'm in groups that try that they end up fucking around looking then backtracking so much it still takes 20 minutes.

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>>380432742
They need to make a different version of bane for SCH and let SMN have the unnerfed version.

>>380432440
I have a friend who took his time with the content, over a month to complete the story from the start to the finish. Can you guess how he felt starting Heavensward? He was exhausted because the game is forcing him to go through a slog of hundreds of quests.

He liked Heavensward a lot but the "go to point A then B" and lack of creativity is burning players out even if they don't rush.

>>380432773
/nnetwork on

>>380432774
Really? I find that with most pugs that are willing to speedrun (which is thankfully almost all of them nowadays), you can safely get 15 minute runs unless you've got a retarded comp like 3 tanks a healer

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>>380432594
Literally kill what you need to, none of this gotta explore other rooms shit.
>3 of us waiting at tele
>fag needs to open every chest
>GUYS HELP A MIMIC

>>380432865
There's also the sprout icon next to your chat

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>>380432881
>Queue DPS
>Get no healer
>Queue healer
>Get 3 healers

>>380432648
Ummm not my problem they suck at healing..

>>380432881
It didn't make sense to me either, it seemed like we were burning through but then I checked the log and it was still 20 minutes.

>>380432301
It's for the outside. It's gonna be absolute shit to wade through Quarrymill and SB areas. I'm on PC and I see no reason to subject myself to a clump of nondescript models and player names that do nothing but unnecessarily stresses my hardware and makes it impossible to see where the ground and the NPCs are.

>>380432765
Any class would be strong if it received half the buffs AST has since it was introduced
See also: BRD in the second half of HS

>>380426074
>SCH still has to deal with INT trait.

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>15 minutes into stormblood and chill, when this nigga shows up and kills everyone you love
How will you react?

>>380432505
Sure, and that's why I mentioned QoL stuff, if they had planned shit out more, designed Castrum/Prae in a way that worked for new folks to be able to see the story and experience the fights without slowing 7 random people down unbearably (and also give said people a reason to queue for prae ever at the start), and fix aggro so sac-strats didn't work to catapult you through AK or WP... I think the challenge and pacing was appropriate for 'endgame'. Getting a party together was the hard part of Hydra and Titan HM, no PF, no Duty Finder, just shouting and hoping for the best.

If we were to reach end game in SB and be presented with a 60 IL jump, but the design quality/QoL we have now, alongside a legitimately difficult series of fun fights just to enter 'endgame', I would be pretty fucking stoked.

Not that I'm hoping or expectant for that.

>>380433006
>Heaven Sward

>>380433071
15 minutes into Stormblood and I'm inside POTD

Kill me

>>380433071
As long as Tataru is fine I don't give a shit who they kill. She's literally the only good character in the main story.

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>>380433025
and now this too

>>380433113
>Heave NS Ward

>>380433129
They should've just had it start at 60. With a short guildhest-like quest chain that teaches you abilities.

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Calm down.

>>380433071
>thank you for killing those scion shits
>please master let me join you

>>380433176
I'm still pretty sure she's a Garlean spy.

>>380432668
>implying that shit isn't already in the game from as early as the beginning of HW when mechanics got failed

>>380433186
>SMN

hi

>>380433246
>somethow it's ok if scholar does 14 potency a tick with bane
stupid fucking hack i hope a blood cloth reaches his brain

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If I take off your potencies will you die?

>>380433176
How the fuck is tataru good? Fuck you for saying something so dumb, shes the worst character in the scions and I eagerly await her death at the hands of Zenos

>>380426343
>increases targets physical damage taken by 2%
>4 second duration
>60 second cooldown

Why even bother

Especially when Garuda's new contagion is better even if it's for magical and not physical.

>15sec duration and 60sec recast for 10%

>>380433071
I'd fucking snap his neck for even touching Iroha

>>380433129
I'd say I'd queue for leveling roulette first but who the bloody fuck is going to be doing low level dungeons on tank and healer 15 minutes after SB is released.

>>380433291
Yeah while Scholar has Bio II and Miasma. Whole job is literally ruined

>>380433385
literally who the fuck is

>>380433336
The debuff refreshes every time the enemy hits the shield. So it's not 4 seconds, it's 18-24.

>>380430695
>That sword block.
Holy shit. I need to level a tank.

>>380431979
>FF11
>Indoors area as BRD
>Decide to put the tank's skills to the test
>Makurka the party for massive enmity
>Everyone panics as I'm getting my shit pushed in by a crab
I also use to do that in 2.0. Testing tanks can be a bit fun.