Would you classify the Prime games as First Person Shooters?

action adventure

calling prime FPS is like calling ocarina of time a beat em up

Depending on your definition, yes.

The most heavy dip into pure FPS however, is Hunters due to its multiplayer aspect.

They should rerelease this. I never played the first three because the Switch is my first Nintendo console since the SNES

>>380415749
Yes, completely.
>>380416001
Zelda is more action adventure than metroid, bad analogy

>>380416301
emulate

>>380416321
>Zelda is more action adventure than metroid, bad analogy

in what way?

>>380416357
Anon I have a laptop that can barely run Skyrim. I don't think I can emulate anything beyond DS.

>>380415749
It's an adventure FPS, like a Dood Sex or a modern Fallout without the RPG elements.

>the perspective is first-person
>you shoot things
How is it not an FPS?

>>380417062
>you pick a character and beat things up

how is it not a fighting game?

>>380416823
You would be surprised. Dolphin is well enough optimized that my laptop (an i7 but no dedicated GPU) can play all Gamecube games at 1-2x resolution and most Wii games at native resolution.

Can't hurt to try. I would recommend emulating the GC versions just for easy of control mapping but if you have an actual wii mote and nunchuck around--you can bluetooth connect them and play with them.

>>380417225
What game are you describing?

>>380417689
golden axe

>>380415749
You're in first person, and you shoot things, so yes.

>>380417761
There actually is a Golden Axe fighting game though

>>380417849
I'm talking about regular GA

>>380415749
>Because exploration takes precedence over combat, Nintendo classifies the game as a first-person adventure rather than a first-person shooter.

>>380417964
there we go

>>380417790
>my character fights, its a fighting game
>i'm playing a role, its a roleplaying game
>the game has platforms, its a platformer
>the game is horrible, its a horror game

>>380417959
Those are beat-em-ups. Fighting games are structured matches between you and an opponent. Beat-em-ups are organized by stages and you encounter waves of enemies and/or bosses per stage.

>>380418743
ya that's exactly what I'm arguing against this guy >>380417062

>>380418806
But you shoot things from a first-person perspective in Metroid Prime. What makes it not an FPS?

>>380419037
the focus on exploration/environmental puzzles over combat >>380417964

Is Deus Ex a FPS?

>>380415749
What the fuck else are you going to classify them as, stupid?

>>380419151
It's an FPS RPG.

>>380419132
That doesn't take away the fact that you shoot things from a first-person perspective.
It's like saying Mario Kart is a vehicular combat game instead of a racing game because of the emphasis on items.

>>380419449
I already have a counter example to this >>380416001

the main aspect of a game determines its genre, as such metroid prime is an adventure game due to its focus on exploration

>>380415749
tfw Prime 4 will finally have dual analogue controls
get comfy lads

>>380419552
Bioshock focuses on narrative. Does that make it an RPG instead of an FPS?

>>380416001
Delete your post and then say "it's like calling System Shock or Deus Ex first person shooters"

>>380417062
>the perspective is first-person
>you adventure
The game is literally Morrowind

>>380419892
Except you can choose to play TES games in third-person

>>380419781
Narrative doesn't have anything to do with what makes the RPG genre.

>>380416301
>They should re-release MP trilogy, a game on a console that 100+ million people owned, which itself was a collection of re-releases
No. Go fuck yourself. I'm getting sick of all these Johnny Come Lately's begging for unneeeded ports

I'd call it a FPS Adventure game.

>>380415749
I haven't played the Prime trilogy. Do I need to play it to be able to enjoy Prime 4 when it releases?

"First-person shooter" is really only a useful label if it describes your primary means of interacting with the game. COD is a shooter. Rainbow Six is a shooter. Not every game that has first person shooting mechanics is going to be best described as an FPS.

>>380420005
Tell that to J"""""""""""RPG""""""""""" fans.

>>380420097
>forgetting the Trilogy for the Wii was bizarrely restricted in production
>only other release is digital only on the WiiU

>>380420215
Yes

It's as much as FPS as smash is a fighting game.

So sort of.

>>380420287
Use homebrew or emulation then

>>380420215
No, but you'd be missing out on one of the best video game trilogies ever.

>>380420215
I'd say no. The earlier games are connected somewhat, but each on can stand on it's own. On the other hand these are some of the best games ever made, even the weakest one (which I'd say is 3) is still excellent. Not sure if they're emulatable though with the motion controls, but the first two should work.

>>380420287
I payed like 80 bucks for my copy of Metroid trilogy. A few months later it was released digitally to WiiU for like 20.

I've never played the games before, should I emulate the gamecube versions of one and two, or just go with trilogy for all of them.

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>>380415749
Yes. They're first person shooters with extremely unique mechanics and a large focus beyond just the shooting aspect, but then again so was System Shock 1 and that's also considered an FPS instead of a point and click.

>>380420828
If you have access to the trilogy just play that.

>>380420865
>System Shock is a 1994 first-person action role-playing video game developed by Looking Glass Technologies and published by Origin Systems.

>>380420312
>>380420491
>>380420527
I'm mostly concerned about whether or not the plots are connected. I'm not too big on Metroid, having only played Fusion, Zero Mission, and Prime Hunters. Are the plots in the trilogy interconnected? And what would be the best way of playing it if I have a Wii U and a gaming computer?

>>380421021
Buy or priate the Trilogy from the eShop on Wii U

>>380421021
The first and second aren't connected aside from in themes. The third isn't really directly connected to the first two, but the plot still builds up to to three, not directly like characters returning, but thematically - the situation in 3 is definitely the grandest in scale and the most dire. But if you have played other Metroid games you should be accustomed to phazon, metroids and space pirates. Still I don't see any reason not to play them in order. If you've got a WiiU I'd say buy the digital version of trilogy.

>>380421170
My Wii U isn't hacked. I haven't checked what version it is on, but is it hard to hack?
>>380421251
I'm not too big on Metroid lore either. The only lore I really know of in Metroid are the lore of Prime Hunters and Fusion, but I don't know if they are connected to the Prime trilogy in any way.

>>380421021
Metroid is not a plot heavy series. There's a lot of lore and optional details/backstory, but no game should really confuse you with its plot.

The primes plots don't really depend on each other very much; reading a 2 minute summary would pretty much cover it and you could jump into any of them fine without knowing about the others.

Best way would be to get Trilogy on Wii U eshop. I think it was $10 at some point.

>>380421610
It's very easy to hack, and you can do it on the latest firmware. My Wii U was actually the first console I've ever hacked and I didn't have any trouble. No risk of getting banned like on 3DS either

>>380415749
they literally are

"action adventure" is a bullshit term come up with by retard nintenbros to try to avoid association with shit like halo which it literally is a fucking reskin of.

>>380421868
I don't remember two weapon limits, regenerating health, or vehicles in metroid prime.

They're officially classified as First Person Adventures by Nintendo.

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>>380421021

This is all you need to know about the plot of the Prime trilogy.

>>380422198
>two weapon limits
You either have a beam or missile launcher.
>regenerating health
You don't regenerate health in Halo.
> vehicles in metroid prime.
Morph ball.

>>380422524
>you don't regenerate health in Halo
underage

>>380422636
Shield =/= health
Nice try though.

>>380415749
Yes. Its an adventure game too. They aren't mutually exclusive.

>>380421251
>>380421647
Is it fine to just read the plot summaries of the games on Wikipedia or something, or is the experience of playing the games really necessary?
>>380421708
Is there any point in hacking it if I already own all the games I want on it?

>>380422954
Lets you play VC games and eshop titles for free as well.

>>380421647
Is the lore in the Prime trilogy and the lore in the other games related in any way?

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>>380415749
Hi guys, I'm a third person shootemup flying simulator.

>>380422954
It's worth it so you can play Wii and GC games through Wii mode and inject VC games
You can also use the GC adapter and other USB controllers for any game (not just Smash)

>>380415749
Only if 2D metroid is a Third Person Shooter

>>380423078
>>380423263
Are there any benefits that aren't piracy?

>>380415749
As much as I would call Super Metroid a side scrolling shooter like Contra, so no because I'm not a fucking idiot.

>>380415749
I'd say yes since primes are the only Nintendo games I liked and they introduced me to the fps genre which has been my favorite ever since.

>>380423441
>You can also use the GC adapter and other USB controllers for any game (not just Smash)

>>380422954
I'd say it's all about the experience and that they're fantastically immersive and let you discover the lore very naturally.
But if you're really just worried about the plot, a plot summary on one of the Metroid wikis is completely fine for all three of the prime games.

>>380423145
I mean, it's all the Metroid series. There are some inconsistencies and last I checked the Primes are in a word of god non-canon limbo.
For the most part the Primes build upon the lore of the Metroid games before them while adding new stuff that matters more internally to Prime.

It'd be like asking if the 2D Zelda lores are related to the 3D Zelda lores, or if the child timeline lore relates the the adult timeline lore. There's inconsistencies, and definitely overarching lore, but a bunch of the games just do their own thing.
Although Zelda is definitely more plot heavy (maybe same lore level), and there's the whole split timeline thing, so not perfect comparison.

>>380423145
yes, there's stuff like it turns out that mother brain was a leviathan seed

>>380423441
https://gbatemp.net/threads/hid-to-vpad.424127/
https://youtu.be/5BBWOgz3KT0

>>380417062
>the perspective is third person
>you shoot fireballs

How is Mario not a third person shooter?

>>380424485
Because it isn't mandatory or even a big part of the game
You can't even leave rooms without shooting doors in Metroid

>>380415749
It belongs to the genre because it fulfills all criteria. You have a first person view and your gun in your first person view. Sure, it's mostly an adventure, but still an FPS, well, maybe we can call it FPS Adventure Hybrid like Bioshock for example.

>>380419552
>focus on exploration
In almost every room in Metroid you must shoot Space Pirates, Metroid is almost like Doom.
Besides that "focus on exploration" is not an argument, old FPS were also focused that you explore the levels, that's why has Duke 3D shitload of secret rooms.

I would classify them as shit metroid games

>>380425101
>In almost every room in Metroid you must shoot Space Pirates
I'd recommend trying out the Prime games, you can emulate them pretty well on PC.

>>380421868
Halo 4 and 5 even has lead designers who worked for the Metroid Prime trilogy.

>>380425623
good 4 and 5 sucked

>>380423443
But Super Metroid was put in the same gaming category than Contra. What exactly differences Super Metroid from Contra? You have, besides the large levels, literally no difference between them two.

>>380425260
I mean the Prime games. Sure, the first minutes you are into the levels there are mostly no enemies, but then you have many enemies, it works no different than an classic FPS.

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>>380416001
First person action adventure

the fact that it has the morphball mode, which is a primary and always accessible mechanic, along with its platforming, exploration, and puzzle solving, means that it strictly possess action adventure quality.

it is a "first person action adventure game"


for example, i would classify borderlands as a "first person action lootfest", as those are the most omnipresent mechanics. you could also call it a "fps with rpg elements", as while they are there, its far more minor aspect of the game.


metroid prime is quite honestly the metroid formula using a first person method of navigating this formula.

>>380426070
I know, I was implying that you clearly haven't played them.

http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_rooms_in_Metroid_Prime

Each room lists the enemies in the room. I opened up the first 20 rooms of the Tallon Overworld section (first major area) and the first 20 of Chozo Ruins (second major area).
Tallon had 3/20 rooms with space pirates, Chozo had 0/20 (though 3 rooms had Chozo Ghosts which are of similar difficulty to pirates).
Pretty much all the rooms had basic small animal enemies that you can ignore.
You can look through more if you want.

>>380415749
Hardly, while perspective is the same, gameplay and level design are more akin to the adventure and exploration genre,

Yes it's an fps. You do a shitload of shooting in the games and anyone that tries to claim you don't is wrong.

>>380416001
>>380416321
>>380416450
Action Adventure doesn't mean anything, it's where you throw anything you can't categorize elsewhere.

>>380415749
Is Metroid Prime, dare I say, the Dark Souls of FPS?

Is half life not an fps because it has puzzle platforming as well? No.

Nump

>>380427601
This. It's a genre mix.

>>380427914
>>380427601
it's a question of where the main gameplay is.

this thread is straight autism

>>380427601
Half life is linear game that requires no exploration, there are small puzzle platforming sections but other than that it's a straight shooter, Metroid Prime is more focused on exploring and using abilities than shooting, which becomes only a main element in boss battles, just like Metroid has always been designed around.

>>380420267
JRPGs are based on a specific formula that comes from a specific game, that came from D&D. Final Fantasy had next to no story, for example.

>>380420287
I bought one of ~9 copies at my local Best Buy, it was marked down to $20.

>>380424592
You can't beat the game without platforming either.

Truth is, Metroid Prime is better than any FPS out there simply for the fact that instead of making fighting trash mobs the meat of the game, it focuses and greater things like exploration and boss battles.