Shadow of the colossus

phalanx will always be a best

>>380396993
Anon that's not Malus...

Please tell me they added more colossi ;_;

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WHERE IS THE FUCKING SPIDER BOSS

THAT WAS SUCH A COOL CONCEPT FOR A COLOSSUS

>>380397798
It's a fucking remake, not a new one, why would they do that?

>>380397930
You mean https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjdk-P6sbzUAhVIVD4KHQf_C04QtwIILzAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D1sOZhIRk3aE&usg=AFQjCNGsUTGuzvomU5-QgoFljbxnBQgiBw&sig2=KECC_37o3t_FFCURZQbwnQ ?

>>380398134
Holy fuck i fucked that link up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sOZhIRk3aE

This one right?

>>380395803
>fourth remaster
>Dormin still did nothing wrong

>>380398713
Except get himself and Wander trapped forever

>Dirge's orange eyes chasing your ass in 4k with photorealistic graphics
N-no thanks...

yes daddy i wanna fuck that snakes ass against the wall

>>380398134
Some anons have the disillusion that the remake will have some of the cut colossi restored into the game.

It'd be pretty dope if they went above and beyond to do that, but they won't.

Basaran was my favorite when I first played this.

>>380399258
You mean the rumored 17th colossus? Might be cool. If they did would you guys pay for colossus dlc?

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>>380398241
Think he means this Spider, which isn't in the game

& they better add in the fucking remake

>>380398864
All accoding to keikaku. Dormin funnelled his essence into Mono (the female half of his voice that fades as Mono gets stronger) and spent the rest of his life as a cute girl.

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>>380399570
Nah there was 8 cut Colossi

Some were cut at the last minute despite being pretty much finished, on the demo disc Dormin even warns you about the cut tape worm colossi

it's so lame

I just dont see the point of remaking the game if they wont add the cut content. The HD PS3 game already exists.

There were some grander ideas," Ueda said, "such as changing Shadow's ending or adding some of the colossi that got cut from the original, and honestly having features like that would've been attractive from a business perspective. If we put just a few extras in, though, gamers would naturally expect more than what we could provide. Instead of just putting in a few half-baked things, I thought it'd be better to stick with the original concept of staying faithful to the base work. If I get another chance in the future to do a remake, I might wind up changing quite a lot more."

Fumito Ueda - Famitsu magazine August 2011

>>380395803
I like this game because you;re a good guy and you know you're becoming the bad guy, but you keep on going because fuck everyone

>>380399570
There was actually suppose to be an extra 8 colossi in the game but it got scrapped for whatever reason.

Unless they made the areas before hand, they won't have any incentive to do it.

>muh cut colossi

fuck off

>>380400212
Dear god please make it happen.

>>380400301
Fuck off retard.

>>380400409
no u

>>380400457
Where do you live kiddo? I will kick your ass.

>>380400301
while the probability is low, it'd be neat to see some of the fights, such as Sirius, Monkey, or Demon. Even spider although I think riding around and slashing legs isn't too interesting, I'd wonder how it'd move and attack.

No need to be bitter

>>380400301
It's hard to deny some of the cut ones were the coolest

>>380400302
I will buy a ps4 just for this and bloodborne if they don't fuck it up

>>380400586
the demo disc you can slash while you ride agro, they took it out in the final version because it had no use with spider bro gone

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Why do I not want this remake?
I love SotC and it's probably in my top 5 games of all time. Definitely my fave on PS2 along with MGS3. For some reason though, I'm not on board with this. When I saw the trailer live I just though "Why?" Maybe I like the original game too much and think a remake might be too "clean".

>>380400709
Yeah I remember watching that, I just mean it seems too simple? just riding in circles slashing with that 'meh' animation. But Spider dude still looks cool and seems so interesting

>>380400586
Sirius seemed boring as fuck. It was just a slightly larger than normal pig in stone armor that you had to get stuck in between some rocks to attack it's weak point. Demon would've been fun because you have to sneak up on it and spook it to get at it's weak point. Spider would have to be made extra unsettling to be worth putting in.

>>380400925
>When I saw the trailer live I just though "Why?"

Becuase they know they fucked up hard with the "HD" PS3 version

>>380400984
I still think the Worm would have been the best because he appeared straight after Dirge

It's funny people say Dirge is the big NOPE moment, but they had an even bigger spook planned in that fight

>yfw they have the opportunity to add the cut colossi and they don't take it

>>380401287
What was wrong with it?

>>380401380
Oh yeah, I forgot about the worm. It had it's weak point in it's mouth so you'd actually have to manage to get in there to do damage without dying.

I'm just imagining the lake colossi in shiny new graphics with even murkier water and it makes me not want to play that game at all.

>>380401402
I honestly think they will add new ones, but not any of the cut ones

>>380400162
For people that skipped the PS3, these kind of remasters might be a godsend.

>>380401662
That was the most terrifying fight in the whole game. Every time I fell in the water I panicked looking at that abyss.

>>380401434
It wasn't really that HD?

It basically got that Silent Hill HD treatment

>>380401662
I feel sick just thinking about it.

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>The music tease at the end of the reveal trailer

>>380398241
Basaran is more like a weird turtle instead of a spider and also the worst boss in the game

>>380402414
The horse colossi was worse.

>>380402314
What do you mean? All PS3 HD ports were just upscaled with the same low res textures. I can't think of one HD port that didn't do this.

>>380402008
Yeah I never did buy a ps3 but I always wanted to play this game so I'm excited

>>380402560
I just really didn't enjoy basaran's gimmick and I remember it fucking up my time attack score over and over again

>>380402118
The thing is the colossi itself wasn't scary in it's design because it just looked like an eel without a mouth. There's just some kind of primal fear associated with big things in bodies of water.

>>380398713
Fourth remaster?

>>380402414
Worst was Phalanx

>Oh you didn't get out of that weak point pocket in time? Guess you gotta fall all the fuckin way down and start over :^)

Fuck Phalanx. Fight me m8s

>>380402414
Maybe he means that the two are related because the gimmick of knocking it on it's back to attack the weak spot was taken from the spider and given to basaran.

>>380402414
Hes one of my favorites cause he actively tries to fuck your shit.
Not a fan of the Colossus who'd just wander off if you didnt jump on them. They make for boring fights.

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I can't remember which colossus it was. But which one had the terrifying game over screen face? I know they all kinda had them. But one of them was worse than the others. Someone post it.

>>380402941
nah Phalanx is pretty annoying too and it has those fucking eyes

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>>380403132
This guy?

>>380402941
Phalanx is overrated by casuals. He doesnt even attack you. He's all style no substance. Most boring boss imo

>>380402008
Can confirm since i skipped the piss3

>>380400925

Because you (and I) don't think the game needs improving.

It's literally perfect. SotC as it existed on the PS2 was everything it needed to be. There is no point in that game where a sane person would think 'you know what this needs? More fucking polygons!'

The only improvements the PS3 version needed was 'renders in 1080' and 'comes with Ico'.

Whats worse is the thought of how many development resources are being poured into recreating SotC, and are therefore not being poured into something original. Seriously, what's wrong with just, I don't know, grabbing those Colossi that got left on the cutting room, throwing in some new ones, and making SotC2?

Oh fuck it, when's Praey for the Gods coming out? December? Cool...

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>>380403321
FUUUUUUUUUUUCK

which # was it?

>>380403563
I think that's why they cut so many good colossi, they planned to reuse them in the sequel that never happened because TLG took 50 years to come out & now Team Ico is fucking dead

>>380403547
>implying Phalanx isn't cool because it's one of the only bosses that doesn't actively try to attack you

granted it feels more like a cool setpiece than a boss.

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>>380403702
10th

& originally this giant Worm came at you straight after you killed Dirge, which was unique since all other fights send you back to the Temple

>>380403702
It's ten. Learned recently that its orange eyes turn blue when it's moving away from Wander, interesting but pointless design choice

>>380400043

>you will never funnel your essence into Mono

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>>380400925
Because you know you cannot relive the past. No matter what they package and sell to you, you cannot have those moments back. Only a vague sense of recollection as you go through the motions of a new, less moving experience.

Recognizing this, you seek to move on, as those who would dwell in the present and march into the future must do

>>380403960
Yeah, hes cool but I hate when people call him the best Boss.
He isnt the best boss, just a neat setpiece before the next actual boss. Like a breather between real fights.

So, is this a remake or just an HD port?

>>380404696
Remake, judging by the looks of it, completely redone

>>380395803
Now I'm sort of glad I've still never played the game. Now I'll get to play it for the first time in full HD

>>380403321
post more

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>TFW have a tattoo of a sigil on my back
>TFW bought this for myself for my bday this year
>TFW See the announcement

Sure it was a bit brighter and not so ominously lit but dear god I choked a bit when I saw the clips. I'm ready OP

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>>380406946
saw this death screen quite a few times during my first playthrough

>>380407356
>TFW have a tattoo of a sigil on my back

Degenerate

>>380395803
>dead empty locations
>no actual gameplay
>shitty 'combat'
>goes to the trash after the first bossfight

No thanks won't bite again

>>380408662
The boss fights are more like puzzles than actual fights. It's not the games fault you have bad taste.

>>380408662
>dead empty locations
>he didn't explore the map fully in search of delicious white lizard booty and succulent health fruit while taking in the sights

pleb

>>380407356
pics

even though it's just a remake, this trailer was really the only one that could make glad... I guess it says a lot (I'm also interested in the Horizon DLC, I'm starting to like it's world more and more)
I know it's mostly nostalgia, but this game was something else for me and my friends, we spend whole nights just exploring the world and trying to figure out the lore
I didn't get the hd version for the ps3, and I don't even remember what happened to my ps2, so seeing that bridge again made my night

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>>380402314
Are you fucking high? Anyone can clearly tell this is a full blown remake. It looks gorgeous. Please don't be one of those shitters that says the original PS2 or the """""""""remaster"""""""" look the same.

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>>380408662
>admitting you are a filthy disgusting casual

>>380403563
>SotC as it existed on the PS2 was everything it needed to be

15 (10+5) FPS

>>380407356
>getting vidya tattoos
>buying gifts for yourself
>having such a severe lack of taste you think shitty fanart is worth buying
I hope you and your life both get better anon

>>380409806
I just ask game to be entertaining that's all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVNcmGjNW6c

>no one's posted the best ost yet

>>380400162
the PS3 remaster was really the same game, but for HD televisions. I don't think they actually changed any of the models or textures.

As much as I love Shadow of the Colossus, I skipped the PS3 HD remaster because I didn't think the improvement was that big a deal. I will be getting this PS4 version though. Any excuse to play this game again is a good excuse.

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This is worst colossus.

Say something mean about him!

>>380399823
It was scrapped for a reason.

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I think it's pretty obvious they're not going to add any of the cut colossi.

I would like to see them put SOMETHING at the top of the castle other than an achievement. Even if its just some footprints or a weird bird or something.

Co-op would be a fun extra mode, in addition to time trials.

>>380410247
This. I love Shadow of the Colossus but the remaster looked liked ass because none of the textures or graphics were improved at all. Only the resolution was upscaled slightly. To have the game remade to look beautiful with the audio also revamped properly. I can't fucking wait.

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>>380409128
From like 4 years ago, back has cleared up alot

>>380400212
Well then there you go, this might just be it. Yea, it's not a confirmation, but that's more than what most conjecture gets based on.

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>>380400286
Except most of the areas are already there, bud. Nomad found several places that could easily have housed a colossus.

>>380402314
Hardly. SH collection was a bunch of retards who can't code anything above a phone game having to tackle an inferior beta of the two games and churning out an abomination.

The Ico collection might not have raised the graphics to new heights, but it improved them enough that they weren't quite as dated as they had become.

>>380403972
>came at you straight after you killed Dirge
Where was this said? Only details I heard was that it was "overpowered", which doesn't explain much.

>already 100%'d the game years ago
>fastest time on speed trials
>all lizards all weapons etc

Nooooooo now I have to do it over again

>>380411835
And you'll love it. I know it's not confirmed but half the excitement for me is the possibility of cut content or even maybe new stuff to discover.

>>380397798
It seems pretty likely they'll add some extra content, based on the trailer they've already done a lot of work, and it only comes out in 2018. I can't imagine it'd take them that long to finish if they weren't gonna do extra stuff.

>>380411835
I'd say wait until the confirm whether there's anything truly new in the game or not. Aside from Wander not moving like he's got the sword up his ass, it pretty much just looks like the original game ported into the Trico engine.

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>>380411982
>New unlockable ending
>Have to beat all of the extra colossi (if only some are killed, nothing changes)
>New ending either reveals some new tidbits or maybe a teaser of something to come

>>380412032
One can hope. But it's fair to assume just as much that they won't add diddily.

Not getting it unless they add all the cut content + more to make up for the piece of shit that was TLG.

>>380410437

>playing sotc for the first time
>get to this fucker
>break his armor off and jump onto the ground next to him because I didn't know you were supposed to jump onto his back
>getting stun-locked by his attacks because he's too fast and having to wait on the other side of the water for my stamina and health to recharge
>tediously lead him back up to the temple to knock him off again while getting stunned even more and searching for blind spots where he won't attack to recharge
>he's one of the hardest colossi to stab because he's so fast
>he's also the easiest to beat in time attack
he's definitely the worst colossus

My ranking:
>Argus
>Cenobia
>Malus
>Gaius
>Phalanx
>Avion
>Kuromori
>Barba
>Valus
>Quadratus
>Pelagia
>Hydrus
>Phaedra
>Dirge
>Basaran
>Celosia

>>380412327
TLG wasn't that bad, and most of the cut colossi were removed because they were carbon copies of the ones that got in. They just need to add in the really unique ones like the spider and the monkey and that "devil" one.

>>380412327
TLG really wasn't that bad

>>380412583
>>380412623
Okay maybe I was exaggerating but it was still really disappointing.

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>>380395803
This shit looks so pretty. Very hyped. I'd even be down for them trying to remake the music-- same compositions, but full orchestration rather than patches.

>>380409631
Read the comments again, idiot.

>>380412708
It looks like they're genuinely putting passion into making it look good, while retaining the artstyle. Which I love. Definite buy for me.

>>380412708
Pretty sure the original was fully orchestrated. Unless you mean having the music more naturally shift into other songs.

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>Dirge with modern grafix

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>>380410753
I disagree with this entire post. It's just wrong.

No it's not obvious.
No the top is fine as is. Maybe other goodies elsewhere?
No co op would be awful and would be way harder to add than the cut finished colossi

Even if they dont add the cut colossi I still want new content. Like more weapons and stuff to find in the world. I really enjoyed hunting those lizards.

>>380412708
Interesting how the eyes have a kind of clockwork look to them now with the slow spinning.

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>>380412831
Yeah, it reminds me of those "(popular game) remade in Unreal Engine 4!" videos you see every once in a while, but actually done by a full team.
>>380412864
Nah it was all done via synthesizer patches. It still sounds great but it's different from actual instruments. Either way I'd be happy but since we already have the original soundtrack I'd be thrilled with anything new.

>>380412935
But you can't even get to the very top. There should be some way this time around if only to satisfy all of us who spent years trying to get there legitimately.

>>380412687
1st playthrough I had no problems, everything worked fine, I loved the game. 2nd playthrough to show my friend, the bird dog wouldn't do anything I asked, game looked shit and I looked like a fag

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>>380413032
Except that's wrong. They literally show the names of the band who performed and their instruments in the credits.

>>380412864
I think that's what he means. If you play the game again on an old ps2 you'll notice the audio sounds off. Obviously this was because of the limitations of the system. It was still impressive that they did get so much of an open world in one ps2 game. Not even just that another thing that will be awesome on an audio spectrum will be the inclusion of clear ambient audio. The trailer already proved they are adding that which is awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdZQ98mWeto

I would really like some extra colossi but maybe in just like an extra mode. Cause just that feeling of doing a new colossus again is so exciting.

>>380413131
I'm sure you'd have looked like a fag either way.

>>380413242
It was orchestrated there too. The composer was Kow Otani, who does music for kaiju films.

Bluepoint doing this is a good sign.

I might buy this

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Add more wild life please.

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>>380413242
>that rumbling noise of the colossus body movement

oh yes

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>>380413201
Guess I could be wrong, but it does sound like the majority of the tracks are using patches.

https://youtu.be/RhruUsKa1Dg?list=PL4619CDF2FD0D8394&t=92

I love that track and especially that part, but the audio sounds a little low quality, almost like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Hf1-lQElE

Remake looks like shit, it's literally the same game redone in unreal engine and without the awesome art direction. This is so lame.

>>380413504
I get the feeling they might. Maybe nothing too crazy but the game definitely feels more alive and breathing now. I think it goes without saying this remaster will be wallpaper porn when it comes out.

>>380408662
Please don't post on this board with your absolutely pleb opinions and taste. Shadow of the Colossus is a masterpiece of a game and that is almost universally agreed upon here, and for a good reason, because the game is the closest thing to 'art' as video games will ever get probably.

You can say you're entitled to your opinion, but if your opinion is just flat out wrong then it's pointless.

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>>380413504
Maybe some small creatures, but nothing too big. Part of the reason you barely saw anything beyond the lizards was to show how the land was almost devoid of any life, as if it could not sustain it, then the ending reveals that life can flourish. It's even implied that with the Dormin's original sealing undone, the forbidden lands will return to a normal state of existence instead of being in perpetual daylight.

>>380413347
He also did the bitchin' Gundam Wing soundtrack

>>380410994
They only vidya tattoo I ever considered getting

>>380400212
Is Ueda on this project?

>>380413504
i always thought it added to the atmosphere that there was very little life around
only little slippery things like lizards and flying things like birds can survive there, etc

if there were too many animals around it wouldn't feel as lonesome

>>380413595
Not exactly sure what you by patches though, I know synthesizing is what is often used to create the illusion of real instruments.

I have the HD collection but I never played more than like 30 minutes of Ico.

Tell me how retarded I am on a scale of 1-10.

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>>380413679
>implying these look 'worse' than attached pic
>>380413595
>>380413032
>>380412708

please stop posting here

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>>380413753
And Outlaw Star.

>>380413710
That's what was so cool about the Forbidden Lands. Going through the whole game you saw what looked like a combination of War and Battles that had happened as well as decay from what it appears that it happened a long long time ago. It added so much to the mystery of what had happened and how they got the Colossi to where they now reside.

>>380404503
>vague sense of recollection
I love that feel

>>380395803
As much as I like SotC did it really need a remake? It had already gotten the HD remaster alongside Ico. Hell the PS2 version still looks good outside of the framerate.

>>380413867
"patch" is a term used to describe a synthesized instrument. quality can vary, between very obviously fake to pretty convincing. The timing is always too precise and makes the whole thing sound too perfect, like there's less character to it or something.

>>380412864
There's a lot of clever-obvious sample use in songs on the OST.
t. I'm listening to the soundtrack tonight unrelated to this announcement just out of how frequently I listen to it.

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>>380414041
>ps2 version looks good

I'll gladly pay $60 for an updated version of one of my favorite games ever made.

>>380403321
spoiler that shit anon

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>>380395803
>that uneasy feeling when stepping up to your first colossus
>imagining doing that again but in modern graphics

Jesus fuck I can't wait

>>380410994
If I stabbed that, would you die?

>>380413103
I think you're missing a great part of this game that's being forgotten in this spree of open world, of sprawling nothingness:
Boundaries, and the imagination of beyond.

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>>380414096
Ah, first I've heard of that term. Hearing it I thought it just meant the way the music was "patched" together to go from one to another in the battles (and we know that some of the battles had three stages with the songs). Granted, it wasn't always perfect, at least the transition into the proper fight song once you scaled onto the colossus (though the fade in back to the initial encounter did sound better).

RDR is probably one of the few games I can think of where the music changed dynamically and never sounded off because of that. In any case, hopefully they're recreate the music for SotC faithfully and with richer detail than before.

>>380414342
This.

That was one of the things that astounded me with the game. I saw far off and figured I would hit some invisible wall very shortly. Except that didn't happen. While of course the game had boundary limits it was just so fascinating how far they went with them for the time.

>>380400162
>I don't see the point of publishing modern translations of classic texts if they don't add new material

I was super excited until I remembered I have to fight the bird fucker again.

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I still remember getting the demo disc of this game when I was a kid and losing my fucking mind.
Holy shit it was incredible, going from fuckin Runescape to the first colossus blew me away.

Even playing it now I am absolutely amazed at it on a technical and atmospheric level.
It's 12 years later and only now are they able to make a console which can catch up with the technology of this game (hopefully).

>>380413959
Not him but I agree.
Looks too rubbery.
It just doesn't feel right. This is just like Wind Waker was, where a game that aged like wine art style-wise is being redone and no one asked for it.

I think the electric lizard is the most annoying boss.

>>380414434
>RDR is probably one of the few games I can think of where the music changed dynamically

banjo kazooie and super mario sunshine are other examples that come to mind.

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>>380414342
But that wasn't really their intent. It's not like they made so much and then blocked it off to tease people, they just couldn't think of ways to properly implement them before and simply left traces so the world felt more alive and lived in rather than all gamey where everything is just the set piece for whichever colossus.

Being able to scale the tower would at least allow for something new, a challenge that could be tackled at any time for those that dare, but certainly made easier with each playthrough.

>turns out they make that beating the game 16 times and maxing out Wander's stats unlocks a secret

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>>380414574
I disagree, >>380412708 in particular looks like a perfect remake.

The remake looks gorgeous but the PS3 version will still have the edge because it supports 3D which is a fucking mindblowing mode in which to play this game. I am almost certain that the PS4 mode as beautiful as it will be will not support 3D, and it's a goddamn shame.

>>380414739
First time around it was a surprise. But once you realized his electro mist spit couldn't get through all of the windows, it was easy to avoid. What certainly stayed annoying though was how he could sometimes get stuck at a weird angle when you had just hit his last foot and then have to let him recover.

>>380414574
How is it rubbery? The hair and fur look more realistic than ever before, even more so than Trico's.

>>380414490
And when you finally got to them, the beyond was so gorgeous, so vivid.
You could just imagine being there, if only you could get there...

God I remember finding that beach for the first time and my jaw just dropped to the floor.
Then people pondered if that was the beach at the end of Ico and I got chills.

This is a game I have never fully explored and I never want to.
So fuck going to the top. Hack if you want to see it, but you'll be disappointed like I was when I learned how to levitate in Ocarina of Time emulation.

>>380415069
For one, your hair doesn't move. At all. Rewatch.

Secondly, your skin and the movement makes everything look rubbery. It's that Unreal effect that just looks uncanny.

Stop looking at the scenery and look at the PC. You look ugly as hell.
The forced bloom lighting is gone, too. Those effects were over the top a smidge but added so much all the same.

>>380415364
Agreed. I miss the excessive use of bloom and the gritty textures. Looks great otherwise.

>>380415364
>autism: the post

You can literally watch the trailer and it proves you wrong. All this is is you being angry because it isn't the exact same pixels from the PS2.

>>380415364
It does move, but you barely get to see enough of it before they transition to another colossus.

The skin? They were moving just as they always have, it's not meant to be like regular skin, hardly rubbery.

>stop looking at the scenary
Did you have a fucking stroke? You're not making one iota of sense.

All this does is disappoint me.
The 3rd game was a pile of shit and I was interested in the lore since the first game and loved how this one tied in as the prequel.

The 3rd game didn't even fit anywhere in the continuity. It was it's own story. Fuckin-a.

>>380404503
FUCK OFF :'(

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>>380415730
So what? None of them are meant to be all that connected beyond some minor things. Wander starts the line of horned children, but that's all he does in regards to Ico.

>>380395803

HD remakes are the new vandalism

similar to colorized films

fuck this noise, it is shitting on the work of the original

>>380415847
And why couldn't the 3rd game tie that up? It didn't even relate to the other games at all.

>>380415913
> the low fps was part of the charm!

>>380415779

He looks like a Five Nights at Freddy's character.

>>380416015
Tie what up? There's not really anything left dangling plot thread wise between any of them.

>>380400082
you mean THAT demo disc? the one with MK: Shaolin Monks and Conflict: Global Terror? and that Jak & Daxter racing game?

>>380416015
I mean it would be cool if it did, but you
act like it's a dealbreaker. If you found
nothing else you liked about the game then
what good would those plot points do anyways?

B A R B A
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>>380416028
Wasn't the HD remaster in 60FPS though? Why do we need an HD remake?

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>>380416494
Marketing, for one.

Plus, Ueda once mentioned an interest in a full remake to implement ideas he had both during the original production and while overseeing the HD collection, but ultimately decided against due to not wanting to half-ass things.

Granted, we don't know yet if he's involved in this or if it's a massive coincidence.

>>380416494
I was playing it today and it definitely does not run at 60. Maybe when you're walking around in enclosed areas, but colossus fights still drop to like 20 sometimes.

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>>380416897
Set your PS3 to run at 720p and you will get an unflinching framerate.

>>380416494
It's locked in 30fps

>>380416480
Oh no. You don't get it. Even if the gameplay was shit (and honestly, I don't think the gameplay is bad in TLG it's just the same shit from Ico again with some more puzzles) but a decent story instead of the bullshit we got would have sold me on the game.

It was the same plot from Ico reused and it wasn't even that good.

Bad guy eat children!
Use a mirror instead of a sword to kill it this time!

What in the fuck were they thinking? All these years and they couldn't go back to the story and world they built up and do something else with it?

And yes I did feel like there were hang ups. Plenty of shit could have been expanded on in an interesting way but they dropped the ball.

>>380417396
But it wasn't the exact same thing as Ico. Sure you have similar themes like kidnapping and controlling evil rulers, but that was just part of the backdrop, the real story is how Trico and the boy bond and overthrow the master.

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What are the chance's of them actually adding in the cut colossi? SotC is my favorite game of all time and this is a pick up for me but I'd love to see new stuff as well.

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>>380417643
Too early to really say. But I can't imagine them completely ignoring that request when people have asked about a remake for many years now with added content.

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TLG wasn't that bad

>>380414191
I just hope there's a collectors edition with a statue or something as equally nice as the TLG statue.
wouldn't mind to pay another 120 eurobucks for that.

>>380417602
>he real story is how Trico and the boy bond and overthrow the master.

aaaand how was that different from Ico?
The only difference is that one has a happy end and the other is "too bad they died, but hey look a watermelon!"

>>380417915
Oh, and definitely an art book.

>>380417909
It wasn't bad at all.
It seems like people are calling "shit" everything that isn't a complete masterpiece nowadays.

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>>380417953
Because Ico was just "boy meets girl" and nothing else. Hell, Yorda is removed for the homestretch and only plays a part in saving Ico from going down with the castle. TLG is about how the two form a deep bond with Trico becoming more and more concerned about the boy's life and in turn the boy growing to love and respect the very creature that had captured him.

Besides, all of the games have featured similar elements.

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>>380416897
>>380417068
Hm, well it has been a while since i played the remaster. I believe my point is still valid though, what purpose does just an HD remake serve?

>>380416825
>Ueda once mentioned an interest in a full remake to implement ideas he had both during the original production and while overseeing the HD collection, but ultimately decided against due to not wanting to half-ass things.
If this were revealed in any capacity, I'd be in full support of this remake. As of now though, i just don't see the reason when i can run SOTC in an emulator at 4k 60FPS

>>380417909
It wasn't
It was just kind of a let down

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Always wondered if the idol doors actually used the bodies of the previous horned children.

>>380418419
>If this were revealed in any capacity
Revealed how?

I hope there is a way to NG+ and start with the items you've earned in time attack modes. I always loved that stuff but by the time you get them, they're useless.

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What are your favorite theories on Wander and Mono's relationship since it's up to the player to interpret what their relationship was?

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>>380395803
>the sonybro is ready to pay for the same game for a 3rd time

kek

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>>380415779

I will say this

I find it kind of irritating that Shadow of the Colossus is now a "franchise" of three games:
Shadow of the Colossus
Shadow of the Colossus HD
And Shadow of the Colossus

Kind of a Prey situation

>>380400301
i cant wait to shitpost about this for months until we find out its the exact same game

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>>380418834
I think they were involved in some way. From the start, they kept posing the question "how far would you go to save someone you love?", it'd be hard to imagine that in the end that Mono wasn't even aware of who Wander was. Not only that, she clearly seems to recognize Agro and doesn't seem to give much pause before scooping up the babified Wander.

>>380418834
She was probably someone he loved from afar, since she didn't seem to really recognize or know him too well based off her reaction. He obviously felt she had an unfair fate.

>>380417909
>>380418138
>>380418419
It was a let down but let's face it.
Nothing is going to be SotC
It's a masterpiece

>>380418834
my guess is that they were lovers but she ended up being used as a virgin sacrifice for some reason.
So Wander stole the magic sword of the village elder and her dead body the girl because he remembered stories of bringing the dead back to life in a faraway land.

>>380418997
But SotC isn't a separate game though, it's just an HD port.

This is the entire game remade in a new engine.

>>380419070
He's too comfortable on that horse for it to be stolen from someone else. My guess is that he was one of their warriors (or was at least in training) who went rogue.

>>380418174
Are you trying to suggest through your post that Ico did a bad job of building the relationship between Yorda and Ico? Because I felt a lot more emotion in that game than boy meets pet. It's the same deal with Ico. Yorda is partly responsible for Ico's capture because she's just an extension of her mother. The griffon is the same way, just an extension of the evil there. Difference being though that Yorda isn't being mind controlled where the griffon is constantly being mind controlled. In essence it's just a weak animal. It's not like building a connection with a human being that thinks its just being captured like you and you find out who it really is. And then using that power to "save" Ico once Yorda knew what she was. I could go on for days with the emotional connection. What's the griffon do? Despite being fucked up is able to fly the boy back to the village and then just make a family of griffon babies and never returns.

The attempt was to build on the connection between the wanderer and his horse by doing the whole "feel bad for the animal companion" deal. Except I felt way worse for Argo. And why? Because there was a hell of a lot more symbolism going on than just "oh no my horse!!!". But inevitably why do you feel bad for the griffon when it protects you and gets his tail chopped off? "Oh no my griffon!" there was nothing else besides that. I didn't feel like the griffon had a soul. It was an animal that liked you because you cared about him and it was scared and along the way it overcame it's fear to save you. Maybe it's because I have a nervous dog that does the same shit the griffon does, like hesitating over shit I know it can do easily, that I just got irritated with it. Argo didn't hesitate. Yorda didn't hesitate (when she realized she had the power to save you).

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>>380418608
Sorry, I basically just meant if anything new was added with approval from Ueda.

>>380419136
>This is the entire game remade in a new engine.
Who fucking cares? How does this improve the base game in anyway except for possibly having slightly less annoying controls? Unless they add bosses and other content, you're paying for MUH GRAFIX + nostalgia.

https://streamable.com/5pgmu
Reposting from yesterdays thread, not sure why the trailer didn't have this

>>380419367
>Are you trying to suggest through your post that Ico did a bad job of building the relationship between Yorda and Ico?
No? And where are you even getting that idea?

And there was plenty of connection with Trico and the boy. At least he's just following the boy because his recently freed mind is just a curious animal, but as the game goes on, it gets more and more attached and concerned about the boy, culminating in the second transmitter room where Trico swallowing the boy almost kills him and Trico desperately tries to revive him. There's a lot more to it when what was done with Ico and Yorda which was just a simple story of a boy and girl overcoming the girl's controlling mother.

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>>380418834
>>380419015
Had a similar theory to where he's been in love with her since childhood but never had the courage to confess. She's than sentence to death and he is the executioner.

>>380417643
Will SotC 2018 Feature Cut Colossi? - An shallow analysis by Anon.
>ARGUMENTS FOR
SotC is a puzzle game. Once you know the solutions, the game loses a lot of its fun. It got ported to PS3 in 2011 so it's still fresh in a lot of peoples' minds. Cut Colossi incentivize returning customers with the promise of some fights that they are guaranteed to not remember how to win.
The remake is called "Shadow of the Colossus". No "Rearmed" or "Ultra Deluxe". This makes it sound more like a reboot which generally have a lot more creative freedom. I think it conveys that they might be open to adding in new content, at least more so than one with a tacky subtitle.
There are dozens of ideas on the cutting room floor. There are 8(?) that were developed to some degree, several being very functional, last-minute cuts.

>ARGUMENTS AGAINST
People hate change and new things. Unless Ueda gets a AA budget for whatever his next game is, it'll be his Kero Blaster in terms of sales.
Room to fuck up. Some of those colossi were cut for good reasons. They could fuck up the execution. I have no clue if Ueda/Kaido are involved at all.
It's cheaper to not develop and playtest them. There are other things to consider: How will this change the pacing? Would 24 colossi be too much? Imagine how much more horse riding and Dormin cutscene there would be. How will this effect the balance of later bosses if the average player is getting more opportunity to scavenge for lizard tails? Risk is a big deal. Risk is the reason they chose to remake SotC instead of making some new game. Risk would be why they don't make new colossi.

>ANON'S ODDS:
67% chance of new colossi
40% chance they fix the fucking UI and make the health bars less intrusive and finally get rid of that intellectually insulting "SWORD" icon
33% chance they make the tutorial/hints more heavy handed
30% chance they justify the hammerspace bow as magic
25% chance they add a "skip the trip" button even on first playthroughs

>>380397175
That's why he said Phalanx.

>>380396993
Absolutely.

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>>380419530
Goddamn that's good. What the fuck were they thinking?

>>380419765
Don't see why some of the ones that got the axe because of issues making them work couldn't be done now. It's been 12 years since the game was first done, surely they could think of ways to include them that would now, especially with the greater hardware.

>>380414313
It would be extremely painful...

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>Played through the OG a little bit ago
>Malus' eyes turn from orange to blue when he inspects you on his hand

What did the game mean by this?

>>380420283
Probably fascination, who knows if any of the colossi met the humans who made them.

>>380420283
Wander's transition into creppy demon makes him pass. In that moment Malus is smitten and is wondering if the other Colossi would call him gay.

>>380420283
Every monster does this
Their eyes turn orange when they are going to attack
You guys really don't play video games

>>380419664
>No? And where are you even getting that idea?
>just a simple story of a boy and girl overcoming the girl's controlling mother.

And that's where I'm getting it from because that's literally just the surface of Ico where as all TLG is a story about a nervous animal that loves you. It's literally nothing but an overly cliche boy and his dog story and not even a good one. There was multiple layers to Yorda and Ico where you saw Yorda actually become a human being where you watch a griffon become a loyal dog. You've seen one boy and his dog story you've seen them all. Boy helps dog. Dog loves you. Dog becomes loyal and saves you.

Do I have to explain how much difference there is between Ico and that? There is starting out thinking your the hero. There is a utter sense of looming desperation because Yorda and Ico are so small in comparison to their confines. There is finding comfort is small moments (like the bench). Yorda acting like a human being. Ico only caring about Yorda instead of himself. Ico being self conscious because of his horns finds someone in the world who loves him as he is. Yorda realizing she was in control the whole time. Yorda destroying herself along with the hell her mother built because of what it did to Ico and the other like him. That fucking beach scene. The FUCKING song.
Literally nothing alike.

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>>380420520
You can't call someone gay if you're dead, or on fire.

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>>380415634
>he doesn't like it?!?!
>autism! he's angry!!
Yea, so I've seen this trailer like 6 or 7 times already. I'm still right.

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>>380395803
I never got around to play ICO and SoC
Are the HD re-releases for PS3 fine or was it silent hill tier?

>>380420797
The cut colossi are all hiding out in the incomplete dam area, snickering about Malus being a humanfag.

fuck this game

I stopped playing after that cunt who swims around underwater and only ever comes up to fuck your shit up

>>380399258
The remake is made by bluepoint. They do porting work for some sony games. They don't add any content.

>>380420686
There really weren't that many layers to Yorda and Ico, dude. Sure, Yorda pulls an interesting role reversal near the end first on the bride and then in the end, but that's it. There's nothing else before. And the boy is hardly cliché.

Also the games are a lot alike. Did you even play all of them? Companionship is one of the many repeating elements in Ueda's games. In Ico, Yorda was basically just a girl-shaped key. Shadow of the Colossus, Agro was a loyal steed as any other, and valuable asset in the few colossi fights she was allowed to take part in. Meanwhile in the Last Guardian, Trico is not only a friend, but a mobile platform to get around the levels, and an intricate piece in the mystery of the valley.

>>380421309
And that right there is the reason this whole thing is a waste of time.

>>380421309
>The remake is made by bluepoint
and Japan Studio, didn'tcha watch the trailer?

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>>380415653
>it moves i swear!
honey, do you know what hair looks like when you're running?
I know you don't get out often, but..oh wait, this is probably normal for /v/ who likely doesn't shower much. Lol.

also, yea the skin does look off. The blur doesn't look great with this look. The lighting and grit is gone, it just looks too smooth and rubbery.

>>380421057
Not really. Half of what you said didn't make any sense and sounded like you had a stroke while typing.

>>380420683
Are you fucking retarded? read what i wrote again fuccboi

>>380421076
They're great.
A problem SotC had on the PS2 was the low framerate but people didn't care since it was incredible that something like it could run on the PS2.
The PS3 version fixes all of this and the framerate is brought back to normal.

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>>380421385
I've never played the original or the PS3 remaster, so it's not a waste of time. And other than that the studio is literally only doing ports and remakes. It's not like they are doing anything else with their time.

>>380400212
is Ueda even working on this? It's being made by Bluepoint

>>380421309
Maybe not in the ports. But this isn't a normal port, so there's no reason to assume they couldn't be adding stuff.

>>380421462
You need reading comprehension and I can't help you. Neither can video game forums, so hope off the internet and go to bed.

>>380420683
Since you're a little slow i'll break it down for you

>The eye mechanic is obvious
>The question is since Malus is pretty much constantly firing at you his eyes are orange
>When you're climbing him his eyes are orange
>When he sees you on the back of his hand his eyes go from orange to blue like hes inspecting you/curious
>The question is what were the developers trying to explain/say with this?

Get it champ? or do you need crayon drawings now too?

>>380421453
>I know you don't get out often
Way to invalidate your argument by assuming shit about people for literally no reason, jackass.

And yes, the hair does move if you actually take the time to play the video slow on the brief seconds that #1 and 6 move before they cut away. Come on man, you're really reaching for a trailer that barely gives any time to take in the finer details beyond the scenery porn intro with the little Cliffside view of the shrine.

>>380399258
>disillusion
don't use words you don't know, kid

>>380421593
My reading comprehension is fine, cupcake. Maybe you need to write like someone who isn't having a spasm and using the wrong words like "you" when speaking of something that isn't the person you're talking to.

>>380421368
>Did you even play all of them? Companionship is one of the many repeating elements in Ueda's games.

>somehow this excuses TLG to have a absolutely garbage companion hook in comparison to the other games

Go read what I wrote above since you just don't seem to want to read. The first thing I addressed is how bad the companion factor is in this game. It has none of the emotion. Ueda even said TLG was based off the connection between the Wanderer and Argo. The emotional connection between human and animal companion. He wanted to expand on it. However, a boy and his dog story has little to no emotion when you realize that it plays out the same way every single time. The other relationships were heavily multilayered. And Argo wasn't just a loyal steed and that's it. He represented much more. The biggest part being that you, yourself, were the villain of the story all along.

>>380421704
Malus has severe germaphobia and he freezes up when Wander gets that close to his face

who /argus/ here

>>380421463
>>380421704
I was just p-pretending
Anyways it is weird that his eyes go blue, has Ueda ever talked about their eyes?

>>380421453
>honey
could you be any more of a faggot?

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Do you guys fucking remember this shit?! Made my teenage mind run fucking wild!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zuh4TDce1lk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81n8WMdECc0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exvRM213ZXI

>>380421076
They're just basic ports. SOTC has removed depth of field and lessened bloom though and it's 720p. Ico was 1080p and I think looked better texture wise but I may be wrong there.

You can emulate both games so I'd do that rather than buy it. When you emulate SOTC you can get up to 60fps and it looks better than the PS3 version.

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>>380422137
Phalanx Skeleton

>>380421909
I read everything, thank you very much. The companionship in TLG is hardly bad, it has plenty of emotion. And just because it's inspired by Wander and Agro doesn't change the fact that companions are a key factor in ALL of the games.

>plays out the same every single time
And? That's the same case with Ico and Shadow of the Colossus. Yorda and Agro don't react differently in every playthrough, they always go through the same arc, just as Trico. They all have the same layers because they all play out in a predetermined way.

And Wander was hardly a villain. Misguided, yes. But SotC had no real villain. The Dormin keep their promise and even warn Wander of the dangers of his task, while Emon only appears antagonistic but is just an old man doing what he feels is best in stopping an entity was sealed by his ancestors.

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>>380422137
Hydrus' Underwater Remains

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>>380422146
Some of the textures were smoothed out. Ico's feet for example were less clunky and blocky looking compared to the PS2 version where they looked quite squarish in shape. Not to mention both versions used their PAL versions which included some AI tweaks, namely Yorda not being completely brainless like she was in the original American PS2 game.

>>380421076
>>380422146
SotC Emulation has many visual bugs and also it runs poorly on most hardware. PS3 version definitely looks better than PCSX2 @ 720p.

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>>380413959
Not him but I think it looks worse.

Better graphics doesn't imply better art style. The remake looks like some indie UE4 game but worse because the main character runs and looks like fucking shit just look at his cape. The ambient occlusion on the colossi is also really fucking bad, worse than last-gen games even.

And people keep saying it's really faithful but it isn't that faithful because >>380412708 looks jank.

>>380415364
>your
>you
Stop trying to self-insert as Wander

>>380412935
>No it's not obvious.
If you think there's even the slightest chance there will be new colossi in this game, you're retarded. You're the type of retard who hypes yourself up on your own imagination.

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>>380422481
How would you even get a good look at his feet? And you can just play the PAL versions, I always have.

>>380422605
This isn't true but there are a lot of options you have to/can tweak.

This webm was made with an old version of pcsx2 using 2011 hardware. It only runs better now.

>>380422620
Doesn't look janky at all.

>>380412864
>>380412708
If they remake the music, they're probs gonna do what good remakes do and give you an option to pick between original music and new stuff.

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>Remake of a Remaster that doesn't even look that much better than the original.

Can we please stop this?

So if you kill all bonus colossi, will you get a special end boss with Dormin while this plays?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd-rZmR6VRI

>>380422787
It's going for the Gears of War art style where everything is gritty and dark for no reason.

>>380422761
Because the game always had the camera out so you could see Ico and Yorda at all times? Point is, original game things weren't nearly as smooth looking. And not every had the luxury of getting a European PS2 to play PAL games.

>>380395803
Rev up those remasters my sony overlords. Backwards compatibility is a meme! I want to rebuy my own games. And who wants to play these ancient games anyways?

>>380422932
>It's going for the Gears of War art style
No, not it is not.

>>380422937
It's not really zoomed in on the characters feet though, post a comparison.
>And not every had the luxury of getting a European PS2 to play PAL games.
You could always you know download them in minutes.

>>380423010
>where everything is gritty and dark for no reason.
Yes, yes it is.

>>380422710
We're a year out before the game releases, and it's only been just announced. We have no details about anything beyond Blue Point and Japan Studios being involved in the making. There's plenty of reason to believe they may add some stuff as there is reason to doubt it.

You guys really shouldn't hype yourself up for cut content. It's just asking for disappointment and you'd only have yourself to blame. All it takes is one faggot in the wrong place to go "NO CUT CONTENT?!?! THOSE FUCKING LIARS!!!" and shit will get out of hand.

>>380423032
Never said it was zoomed in on the feet. And not everyone had highspeed internet and supercomputers to emulate those PAL only games back then.

>>380423195
It's just the sony cuck effect. They always hype up remasters because that's the only touch of quality they've been getting for years.

>FF12 REMAKE WILL FIX THE VOICES!!!!!!!
>it doesn't

>>380423249
You don't need high speed internet to find and download a game and you can burn PS2 games to play on your PS2. That's what I did.

So you don't have a comparison.

>>380423103
No, it really isn't. The original game was already pretty gritty. Maybe not hyper realistic, but this clearly isn't trying to be any more realistic than the original or The Last Guardian. And so what if some things look darker? That means they're taking into account more realistic lighting techniques for areas where there would be more shadow, that's hardly a bad thing.

Kinda surprised platinum fags (or shitposters) haven't tried anything with sotc.

Was kind of looking forward to people trying to explain how curazay fighting would look in sotc.

>>380415432
fucking hell i want to fight devil

>>380423369
A comparison of what? The feet? You can look up videos yourself and see that the models weren't as smooth in the PS2 version compared to the PS3 one.

>>380423383
Fuck off you don't even have an argument. There was nothing gritty about the original game, it was soft and atmospheric. And that's it. The remake is gritty and dark and purposefully trying to look edgy. And the poorly implemented lighting effects like the ambient oclusion look really bad.

>>380423504
So you don't have a comparison.

>>380423515
Man, those are some strong opinions based off of pretty much nothing.

>>380422293
Alright it's clear I can't keep this up with you. You've literally misinterpreted everything I've been saying and condensed it down to one post.
I didn't mean game playthroughs dude. I meant that a boy and his dog story is a heavily repeated trope that begins and ends the same way no matter what media it's in.
Yes that does make it bad because its all the story had to offer.

For some reason, I guess, you thought I implied companionship is bad or not to expect it? I likely know these games better than you do so you can drop that. Why would I not know the central concept? The themes based around this concept are different in each game. This is why TLG is such a disappointment to me because it reused just the basic themes from Ico and slapped a bland boy and his dog story to it.

Yes Wander was the antagonist because releasing Dorim would have caused a calamity, Wanderer knew this and did it anyway to save one person. You can be a tragic villain you know. Also who knows what else the Wanderer did to steal the sword and make his way there. All you can do is speculate but it probably wasn't anything noble. He also tossed Argo away. That was his turning point. There was no going back after that. Akin to throwing away the last connection to his humanity.

If you still can't understand what I'm saying, just don't bother replying. I'm out either way.

(And no you can't use "muh game mechanics draws sympathy!' as and excuse for emotional connection. Oh, I use my companion in the puzzle that means I'm supposed to feel bad! The other games didn't rely on this being the ONLY means of connecting with your companion. TLG doesn't get a free pass to do it)

>>380423515
Neither do you with this "they're gunning for the Gears of War artstyle" nonsense. Yes, the original game was gritty because they wanted to make the particle effects feel like you were tussling with giants of stone and fur as debris flew around. The remake is hardly edgy in any way, especially when we've only just gotten a teaser trailer.

>>380423632
>objective facts anyone can confirm using their eyes
>opinions

It's fine if you like the gritty remake but fuck off.

>>380423649
Learn to read and stop shitposting. There was nothing gritty in the original game.

>>380423576
Why do I need one? HD versions always smooth out things. Why are you so obsessed because of one example made about what the HD collection did?

>>380423720
Objective nothings. Your interpretation of nothing doesn't mean anything. Stop being triggered over nothing.

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>>380423849
Objective facts: >>380413032
>same gritty texture and modelling style
>same gritty color grading
>same gritty shader effects

The original SOTC looked nothing like this. The remake looks bad.

>>380423739
Because the burden of proof is on you. You're apparently just shitposting to justify your purchase.

>>380423647
>I likely know these games better than you do so you can drop that
Oh don't give me that crap of "you're not as big a fan as I am", you can shove it with that attitude.

Wander was not the antagonist. He can viewed as such, but that was not the designated intention. The game was meant to be completely grey about who was in the wrong. The Dormin are never explained beyond the smallest hint of their power, we don't know if they were evil or if they were sealed because the religious group Emon followed saw them as a threat. Again, they gave Wander warning and all but said "You're going to die if you do this for us" before he sets out.

I get what you're saying just fine, and I just don't agree. Again, don't pull that shitty "I get it better than you" attitude, it's just childish.

That's fine if you didn't like TLG, but that doesn't change the fact that the emotional bond it makes with players is just as strong as the ones seen in Ico and SotC.

>>380423978
I don't see it. Your nostalgia for the sake of nostalgia is poisoning you. Chill your tits.

>>380423720
>you're shitposting because I don't agree
Whatever. The game had gritty aspect from the particles and the fucking blood sprays. It's not edgy, nor is the remake.

>>380424110
>That's fine if you didn't like TLG, but that doesn't change the fact that the emotional bond it makes with players is just as strong as the ones seen in Ico and SotC.
Ehh that contradicts itself. A lot of fans didn't even like the game nor the shitty AI of Trico. I didn't bond any at all with him compared to Yorda and Agro.

>>380424057
>You're apparently just shitposting to justify your purchase.
No, not really. So just because I said that they smoothed out textures and haven't posted a picture, I'm shitposting? That's just stupid logic.

>>380424147
>I'm blind and retarded

>>380424183
Cool bro but those 'aspects' aren't even what we're talking about. Again, shitposting.

>>380424247
Plenty of people enjoyed it though. As for shitty AI, that's really a matter of opinion more so than anything.

>>380423504
Not him but I looked it up and you were full of shit.

>>380424340
>you're shitposting because I say so
Not how it works, bub. You don't see me calling what you're doing shitposting, even though I imagine others would.

>>380424395
The AI had problems you can't ignore that. And that directly impacts the bonding you were talking about. Agro and Yorda did exactly what you told them to do, they were the most natural AI partners in all of video games.

>>380424431
How so? Ico's feet were really square shaped in the PS2 version, while the PS3 version saw them significantly slimmed down. Maybe nothing realistic in appearance, but not as clunky. And again, it was just one example of the smoothing done for the HD version, I fail to see why you guys are getting so fixated on this shit.

>>380424340
Yeah, nostalgia does that to you. Only autism can make someone as upset as you over nothing.

I hope Wander has more lines for calling his horse, the two or three lines is pretty weird, especially how sometimes they flip-flop between the shout and the calm tone.

@380424475
@380424625

>>380424578
Some could ignore the problems though. It's not like Trico started doing completely unrealistic things like contort in unnatural ways (though I won't deny how more than once he would phase his head through an obstacle or two). It still came down to personal experience, and plenty found him endearing.

>>380424646
Would they redo sound assets? Makes me wonder if they'd reimagine the music score, that'd probably cause a stir optional or not.

Are they "remastering" the OST, or just keeping it original/remaking it identical?

>>380424769
>It's not like Trico started doing completely unrealistic things like contort in unnatural ways (
He did for me. But the point I was making is that the bonding was not the same because the level of QA was not there.

>>380424774
I think they would have to. The engine of SOTC messed around with the sound files in the game, if you download them they sound very strange.

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>>380424646
Could always be made into some more contextual. By that I mean if you press the call button gently, it'll be a soft call, whereas a hard press will make him yell.

Really, I'd love to see it if you could gather apples or other treats for her and give them as treats just to feel like you're rewarding her after a fight.

>>380424918
Well I disagree. It really just comes down to personal takes, and everyone has their own for that game. But that's kind of a good thing, it means not everyone had the same experience with Trico. Some found him endearing, others frustrating, and even a few probably wholly indifferent regardless of possible glitches or whatever.

>>380424936
Was his call not a face button? Also wasn't that also automatic based on how far he was from you? I know he'd shout when you were far and whistle when he's way the fuck out there.

>>380424774
From the look of the trailer, they appear to have added some richer detail to places, like more moss and other kinds of foliage. But until we can see more, like a demo, it's hard to tell if it's all just cosmetic stuff or if major changes have been made.

>>380424936
That seems unnecessary. The controls are already pretty complex, no need to add more functions.

>>380425073
How can you disagree that the QA wasn't there therefore making it impossible for the 'bonding' to be the same for characters who had all the QA in the world?

You implied what you said was fact, when it's impossible for that to be true. We aren't in a discussion right now I'm just correcting you.

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>>380425140
It did seem to depend on how far you were from her, but there were times Wander could call loudly while Agro wasn't even 10 feet away.

>>380410089
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr2nK06zZkg
this is better

>>380425152
I noticed that they toned down the boss particles which is dumb and really good shitposting fuel.

>PS2 game has better particles

>>380425184
Why not? It'd make for a fun bonding with the horse since there's nothing you an really do beyond patting Agro while riding or standing close by.

>>380399258
You word you're looking for is delusion