This game looks shitty and somewhat decent at the same time.

>>380382143
They're trying a lot of new stuff at once while keeping the Generations gameplay
Honestly has me interested

>>380382143
What is he anyway?
Evil alternate future Silver?

>>380382143
>make your own OC donut steel
>Shadow, Chaos, Metal Sonic, and Zavok are all working together as villains
>character from OP looks edgier than Mephiles
Story is pretty much guaranteed to be trash, so gameplay is going to be the main consideration.

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>SANIC OCS ARE IN THE GAME

Edgelord looks cool, I like edgy characters designs honestly

Plus Zavok is back and he's cool

The things that are bad about the game:
>Unnecessary as fuck inclusion of Classic Sonic
>Unnecessary Toontown aesthetic OC Creator
>Boost style gameplay
>Return of Wisps
>Bringing back of a fucking LOST WORLD villain
>Lackluster music

If this was a Adventure styled fully 3D Sonic game with Knuckles and Tails playable instead of classic sonic and that oc creator, the game would be GOAT. Too bad nu-Sonic Team is a bunch of fucking idiots so we're getting all of this fucking SHIT packaged together in this game.

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>>380382837
>Edgelord looks cool, I like edgy characters designs honestly
Me too. I like a good edgy character in a non-edgy series. I don't like when EVERYONE is edgy, but the off edgy character is pretty fun. Especially if people actually note on it and make fun of it.
Shit like Reaper, Malthael, Shadow, they work.

>>380382143
Is that sonic?
Why is he wearing the berserker armor

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>>380383238
>If this was a Adventure styled fully 3D Sonic game with Knuckles and Tails playable
I agreed until that. Sonic Adventure aged poorly and the gameplay wasn't fantastic. I say that as someone who fucking loved it in my younger days and still plays it for nostalgia purposes.
Everyone but sonic and shadow was fucking shitty to play, the bosses sucked, stage design and visuals were boring or janky. It was genuinely poorly designed games.

It just looks shitty

>>380383508
Nah, new villain.

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>>380382837
>>380383290

>>380382143
I like that Sonic is getting a bit edgy again. Shadow and 06 went too far, but Colors, Generations, and Lost World went too far in the other direction with the baldy mcnosehair shit. This is really no edgier than something like DBZ.

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>>380383290

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>>380383626
That's some stupid logic right there. You're also being a hive minded faggot by spouting those meme complaints which aren't true in ANY sense of the word. Even if the Adventure games "aged poorly" like you said, that doesn't change the fact that it's literally the best game play style of Sonic in 3D. A modern take on it (made by the right people mind you) would be fucking amazing.

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>>380383290
>>380382837
>>380383909
>>380384109
My niggas.

>>380383290
>edgy character in a non edgy game

Quick, everyone, name 3 games that do this!

I for one am glad they're taking the piss out of Sonic's autistic points, everything from dumb villains to shitty OCs, and cranking that shit to 11. If the gameplay holds up this could be the first great Sonic game in years.

For every bit that looks good, something looks straight outta sonic 06 and sometimes dips down into deviantart levels of bad.

I think the only thing that can save Sonic Forces is if the gameplay is tight as fuck and there are no bugs or glitches (that is sad that i even have to say that, but you know sonic's track record).

The story might be shit, but if it can salvage itself on gameplay, it might be worth it.

>edgy, overly serious plot
>but its still written by the Colors guy

Hm, hopefully that means plenty of self-mockery and pointing out how stupid it all is.

>>380384003
Sonic 360's aesthetic was fine (aside from maybe trying to get Sonic romantically entangled with Elise, fuck that noise), I just had a problem with the maddeningly confusing storyline. It was enough to make the game bad on its own for me. It is such a painfully convoluted encumbrance and it simply can't be ignored.

>>380384396
But generations gameplay is better.
The only part of Sonic adventure that is still fun is Chao Garden. You can't saw that the game has the best gameplay when any stage when you aren't sonic (or gamma, he was kinda fun, better than the mechs) are boring.
Generations wasn't perfect but at least it's fun for the duration of the deal. In SA2, you have fun for maybe 1-2 levels but then some shit like Aquatic Mine, Mad Space, Egg Chamber will appear and make you want to off yourself. Also the bosses were complete garbage in all of the adventure games. Newer game has it much better.

Well you see, terrible OCs function on Mary Sue logic, so the official characters can never hope to stand up to them, which is why they need to enlist another terrible OC to help them.

>>380382639
>shadow
what? why the fuck would he be an antagonist?

>>380385109

>S-s-s-s-s-sugoi! Who are you!
>Thats me! That my furso--I mean, my original character!

>>380382143
Because it's taking all of the normally shitty elements of Sonic and simply executing them better this time around.

>>380385182
Because the plot is "what if all the games happen and Sonic isn't there?" Without him, apparently Shadow never has a return to switch sides.

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>>380382837
Edgy characters are cool but Zavok and the Deadly Six were a bore.

These three teaming up to take down Sonic is gonna be so radical even if Shadow is probably going to betray them.

>>380385182
Time ballocks, I am guessing. Same reason as Chaos.
Hell Chaos has less reason

>>380383626
>Implying video games age
shoo shoo games goblin

>>380385476
i guess thats pretty cool

so why is chaos here
did the master emerald break again

>>380385182
I don't know, but that's what the trailer seems to be indicating. He's probably doing the usual antihero shit though, and will switch sides.

>>380385476
Wait, wouldn't Chaos be Perfect Chaos then?
And wouldn't have Dark Gaia have destroyed the world?
And why did he make Metal Sonic in the first place then?

>>380385662

See:

>>380385476

Eggman broke it and successfully made Chaos a minion this time.

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>>380382143

>>380385662
Damn, knuckles is gonna have to find his lost piece again

>>380385604
Not literally, I mean as you get older your standards get higher and it makes old games less enjoyable, because you excused their flaws before.

>>380382143
>It's good but it's Sonic and I've been trained to believe Sonic is bad.

>>380385712
Possibly.
The whole plot of Unleashed was based on Eggman sapping Super Sonic's strength, wasn't it? No Sonic, no planet smashing.
Because he plucks Sonic from some point in history thats set after CD, apparently.

>>380385971
No you fucking idiot, read >>380383238

For those who haven't heard, the plot of this is that Eggman takes Sonic from some time in the Classic Era and sends him to the future. With no Sonic, Eggman is free to rule the world. So basically, Samurai Jack.

How Modern Sonic factors in, I have no idea.

>>380382143
>implying they're not making coldsteel canon

>>380385817
I would rather have an Aero game over a Bubsy one.

>>380385476
>"what if all the games happen and Sonic isn't there?"
Shouldn't that mean no one would remember who Sonic is? Shouldn't Amy still be held captive by Eggman or dead? How did the events of S3&K play out? Time fuckery in a story never makes sense.

>>380387483
>How did the events of S3&K play out?
They only happened because the Death Egg crashed at the end of 2
No Sonic, no 3&K

>>380382613
Coldsteel's final form.

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>>380388905
So that would mean that Eggman collected all the emeralds in Sonic 1 and then he takes over the world. Why would he awaken Chaos? Why would he awaken Shadow? Why would he build Metal Sonic?

>>380389434
psst anon I don't think they put much thought into it

the flying character is mephiles from the future who possessed your custom character and warped them into a mostly unrecognizable shape. (wow your character is a villain isn't that's cool kids?)
your custom character will sacrifice himself to erase his evil self from existence making him the unsung hero of the world. (wow you're the hero kids!)
he might live through the bonds of friendship though.
yes, it's autism emblem awakening.

>PC version gets modded
>imagine people putting nipples and dicks on their OCs

>>380385863
>Implying I EVER excused flaws in vidya

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>>380383238
I'd agree with this post except
>with Knuckles and Tails playable

I didn't enjoy playing as either of them in the 3d sonic games.

It being boost formula doesn't bug me as much as them having to shoehorn sidescrolling sections in the 3d sections every fucking time. I'd be alright if it were a rare occurrence but when it makes up more than 50% of the fucking thing, it's just ridiculous.

>>380382613
That's what I thought too But silver (along with team chaotix) are seen talking to sonic during the first modern stage

Well I mean it looks shitty at any rate

>>380391914
>I didn't enjoy playing as either of them in the 3d sonic games
Do you also like taking dick in your mouth and/or ass?

>>380382613
Evil version of the avatar?

>>380382613
Probably Mephiles considering they had the antagonists of the other games minus 06

Would make some sense.

>One eye black and one red. Iblis and Mephiles
>Mephiles pose
>Summons fuck ton of tiny creatures / objects to attack with
>Solaris was all about fucking with the space time continuum
>Could go with something like with Solaris being aborted from time he somehow barely survived in a weaker form and is now trying to slowly fuck over team sonic

NO CHAO GARDEN NO BUY

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>>380392378
>getting this triggered

Good job on being the prime example of the average autistic sonicfag. You can have this (You) but don't expect anymore.

>>380392759
The only problem with this theory is that its supposed to be a "New Evil".

>>380383290

Haseo from .hack, though his character arc is about starting with maximum edge and learning how to not be an edgelord.

>>380382143
Couldn't they have just made the main antagonist eggman instead of this retarded edgelord mephiles knock off?

>>380389529
I would rather that earlier in the timeline Eggman Robotnik set loose a villainous plan, but Sonic and crew gathered the chaos emeralds and stepped up to stop him. Before the final machine was destroyed Eggman activated a portal through time and flung him into the future where robotization is mandatory. Now Sonic and crew is looking to return to the his present to prevent the events that Eggman has started.

>>380385856
Punished Knuckles sounds like a good idea.

>>380395313
IT HAS to be an edgelord, to combat your OC creation.

>>380393876
It is "new"

06 technically never happened

Is it just me or does it seem like they're repping the 3d games that generally don't get much love from Sega anymore/ at all

Chaos for SA1
Shadow for SA2
Metal Sonic for Heroes
Zavok for Lost World

>>380382143
>please fans with "make your own edgy OC"
>Sega tries their best at making their own canon Coldsteel v2.0 fused with Mephiles to stay at the top of their game
like pottery

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>>380396453
You may have missed the whole point of the game to begin with.

>>380392759
Oh fuck you're right
Did they even do anything about him in 06? I remember one of the antagonists becoming pure sequelbait with his "I'll be back next time, Sonic. Next time" spiel before 06 bombed. Was it him?

>>380397172
it's sonic generations 2

>>380397379
Don't recall any sequelbait in 06

endgame spoilers if you care
Mephiles kills Sonic which causes Princess to cry which triggers the apocalypse allowing Mephiles and Iblis to fuse into their ultimate form Solaris. Solaris then proceeds to ass rape / eat the past present and future which causes all these lands / levels to get mashed up

Sonic gets revived because princess hax and Sonic Shadow and Silver fight Solaris. Sonic manages to get to Solaris core "flame" and blows it out. This basically aborts him from time from what I could tell meaning that all the events of the game never happened (since Robotnik came to the place due to Iblis in the first place)

Game ends on the beginnings events only Robotnik doesn't show up and Sonic is just chilling out watching the parade

unless I am forgetting something or you are thinking of Generations ending where the two Robotniks are hanging out together in some timeless void plotting or something

>>380398247
Actually going off this you could work Generations end into it somehow because "lol time"

Classic Eggman and Current Eggman chilling out in that white void at the end of generations

Find a strange fragment floating in all the nothing

That fragment is a piece of Solaris dormant due to being time aborted in 06. It still has a fuck ton of power

Eggmans craft robot body to house it

Cue creation of Solarisbot

Solarisbot helps Robotnik win because Solaris is probably THE strongest sonic villain

>>380393295
Not him, but it really does seem you like dick in your mouth and/or ass. Kys for having such shit taste

>>380382143
This villain pretty much sums up the edgy part of the community

>>380385486
How does Chaos become evil again? Wasn't he tamed after Sonic destroyed his ass in Adventure 1? Or is this literal Sonic Generations 2 where Eggman goes back the the past and sends an untamed Chaos to the future?

This is messing with my head.

>>380384961
Well they already showed that the game has banter as seen in the Egg Dragoon boss between Eggman and Tails.

>>380385476
Is that actually the plot? Why does Metal Sonic even exist then?

>>380398498
Didn't the writer of the comics say documents Sega gave Archie said the Time Eater from Generations was actually remnants of Solaris?

>>380399367
Wait, '06 still plagues us? Shit, that explains why the Time Eater fight was such a fucking letdown.

>>380399159
>Or is this literal Sonic Generations 2 where Eggman goes back the the past and sends an untamed Chaos to the future?

Not him but this is looking to be the case, since time shenanigans are present with Classic Sonic and Silver being there.

Reminder that Chaos came back in Sonic Battle too

>>380400080
Yeah but he wasn't a bad guy there if I remember right (and I may not). He gave them the Master Emerald to calm Emerl down, or something.

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>HEY GUYS ITS CLASSIC SONIC (again)
>HEY GUYS ITS MODERN SONIC (again)
>HEY GUYS ITS EGGMAN ROBOTS THAT DO NOTHING! (again)
>HEY GUYS ITS YOUR FAVORITE SIDEKICKS THAT DONT DO NOTHING! (again)
>HEY GUYS ITS YOUR VERY OWN OC THAT TOTALLY ADDS TO THE GAMEPLAY AND STORY EXCEPT ITS A BLANK CHARACTER WITH PROBABLY ANO VOICE ACTING AND INPUT IN THE ACTUAL GAME!
>HEY GUYS ITS THE WISPS AGAIN FROM SONIC LOST WORD REMEMBER?
>HEY GUYS ITS YOUR FAVORITE VILLAINS WE BROUGHT BACK IN SONIC GEN- I MEAN FROM THE OLD GAMES AND EVEN THAT ONE FROM LOST WORLD!
>HEY GUYS ITS GREEN HILL AGAIN!
>HEY GUYS ITS THE RED RINGS AGAIN!
>HEY GUYS ITS THE SAME LEVEL DESIGN AS GENERATIONS! EVEN THOUGH WE SAID IT WASNT! SAME PHYSICS GRAPHICS AND ALL!

This is a fucking mess. I can´t believe they approved this project honestly. I sincerely hope it bombs and makes sega finally understand nobody wants this shit so they can focus on Based taxman saving Sonic with Sonic Mania and hopefully a future (Real) Sonic 4 instead of the outsourced mobile shit we got instead.

>>380400673
>HEY GUYS ITS MODERN SONIC (again)
I'll give you all your other points, but what were you expecting there? Modern Sonic staying around was quite inevitable.

>>380401026
but why categorize him as "Modern" can´t it be just "Sonic"? The only reason they are calling him modern its because he is being paired with "Classic" sonic.

I wish it was called Generations 2.

Classic Sonic feels so awkward outside of a special anniversary title like Generations. As much as I like the classic levels, I hope he doesn't become a mainstay going forward.

>>380385486
This doesn't work. You can't have two speed characters and a power character. Replace Shadow with Rouge.

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Reminder that the OC character was originally going to be Boom Sonic, but after the Wii U game flopped they went into damage control and pushed the game back a year so they could replace boom sonic with something else

>>380401372
It already happened
the fact that Classic Sonic was shoved into this is proof enough they can´t sell something without nostalgia pandering.
Sega is too afraid to make something new because, honestly, they will surely fail with that incompetent ball of fucks they call Sonic team.

>>380382143
>boostshit
Apparently I'm much less conflicted about this than you

>>380401698
It's actually historical revisionism. They want old Sonic to be seen as a "classic" like Mickey Mouse or Mario, as like an innocent and wholesome children's character when he was always presented as THIS ISN'T YOUR DADDY'S PLATFORMER, HE'S EDGY AND HAS 'TUDE!

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>>380382143
Pic related did it better

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>>380382143
>red eye with yellow iris

>>380402221
Isn't the director of this game the same director from 06?
Is he just trying to do the same story again but right - aka without the princess shit?

>>380401557
>The wisp guns were gonna be gadgets and melee combat
>Grappling
>Those similarities in the level design
That makes a ton of sense, actually

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>>380402221
>Same pose and pointed feet
>Silver is in this game

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>>380402470
>Infinity talks
>yfw Dan Green

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_S_AZrxQGg

>>380402756

it's weird hearing yugioh laugh while looking like an evil hedgehog

In the classic sonic boss fight, eggman mentions something about being from another dimension
So this time it's not just time travel, but they're treating classic sonic as if it's a different sonic altogether? That matches the theory that originally boom sonic was meant to be the third character, since that one is definitely a different dimension and not just the future

>>380385712
>Wait, wouldn't Chaos be Perfect Chaos then?
To be fair, Eggman only ever got half his emeralds because Sonic and Tails were practically hand delivering it over to him

>>380382143
I like how they're embracing how ridicous the Sonic franchise is and how weird the hardcore fans are and just kind of running with it. Even if the game ends up not being great, it's bound to have enough good/weird shit in it to make it worth at least a try.

>>380382143
I actually like this design.

>>380399625
No, with Solaris dead something had to balance out Dark Gaia from Unleashed, there was now a God of Darkness without a God of Light, and it turned out that Chip took Solaris's place

Any good cringy reaction videos yet? Looking for reactions from actual autistic Sonic fans, not the generic gaymer reactions.

>>380404085
I haven't watched this but going by he thumbnail this is likely what you're looking for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JckxZM-ejdA

>>380403789
Fucking what?

>>380405727
yup, you read that right
the almighty god of light got no one suitable to replace him, so they had to pick the nearest little shit they could find in the woods to do the job.
see how he even says in the cutscenes how he's the guardian, he doesn't consider himself a god or an equal to Dark Gaia

>>380402351
No, he's the PRODUCER of Sonic Forces, not directing it. That doesn't mean he couldn't be projecting some ideas into the game though.

>>380404085
This one's pretty bloody brilliante
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_3aZPCDk9M

>>380406623
Again, fucking what?

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I AM INFINITE

I AM ALL OF ME

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>>380403789
>>380406623
...Ok, fuck you...

just how deep is this lore?

>>380407208
couple more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVWPf0sapJU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_Ee6bV91u0

>>380407208
>2 minutes of talking over a disney movie before the actual video starts
???

>>380407456
its fucking Mephilles... i know its him, you cant fool me with all that armor.

>>380407648
not much, really
in the end Robotnik and Metal Sonic are the only ones who survive anyway, all the rest die or get sealed back into irrelevance no matter how stupidly powerful they are

>>380407841
What's the point of reacting to a sonic forces trailer about character customization when they already know character customization is a thing based on the video title and thumbnail?

>>380407961
I'd be cool with that. Mephiles was one of the nice things out of 06

As long as they get Dan Green for him

might play it just for the sanic OC meme threads /v/ will inevitably have

>>380400617
>if I remember right (and I may not). He gave them the Master Emerald to calm Emerl down, or something.
no, he was just there

it's been said that when Chaos only comes out during the time of havoc

This game is leaning hard into the dumb shit from the late 90's-mid 2000's

And I love it for that.

>>380393876
Just as the Arkham Knight was "new"

>>380408175
>>380407961

His theme was pretty GOAT, you know.... for a theme song in a shit game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlf09gtll7U

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>>380382837
>>380385486
>>380399159
>>380399787


Idk about you guys but I love Metal sonic, specially the generations chibi but serious as fuck version.

>>380408931
It's objective fact that 06 had a GOAT soundtrack, you don't have to be shy about that

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>you will never see Buddy + his army of OC Donutsteels alongside the Archie cast fighting >>380382143 in the comics

Unless a miracle happens.

>>380409663
Archie is dead.

will they ever bring the chao garden back come on please. just

>>380410356
too much effort
have a chao backpack on your OC instead

>>380410356
chao garden never would've happened in the first place if SEGA wasn't trying to push their VMUs (and the Dreamcast's unique aspects in general) as hard as they could at the time. It has no future as anything other than a potential mobile game.

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>>380409663
>miracle

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>>380409837
Yeah, that was kinda the point.

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Is it going to be edgekino?

>>380384961
I'd rather have "edgy" Sonic than baldy mc nose hair. Fuck off.

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>>380402221
>Mephiles escaped the erased timeline of Sonic 06 during the events of Generations and is trying to pull Sonic back into it

That reveal would be nuts and I'd love it

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>>380414926
He looks shitty in this picture.

>>380415918
every single character in that picture is a 'he', anon
be more specific

>>380414926
>Metal on the cover

I don't care if he got reprogrammed into subservient killing machine, he's still my bot.

>>380386702
>Bubsy the Bobcat
>Aero the Acro-Bat
>and Rocky Rodent
>starring in...

>>380409120
His proportions weren't that chibi in the Sonic CD artwork.

>>380382143
Is this Nazo?

>>380417696
his name is 'infinite' I think

>>380416739
>Featuring Radical Rex from the Radical Rex series

>Sonic's arms aren't blue
shit game desu

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>>380382837
>>380383909
>>380384627

Didn't know my niggas were in this thread

>>380407456
>Iizuka steals your press turns.

>>380382143
You fould think that with the name "Sonic FORCES" this would be a team-up between a bunch of Sonics, not just those two.
> Classic Sonic
> Modern Sonic
> Boom Sonic
> Sonic X
> Sonic Underground
> Archie Sonic
> King Sonic from Archies "Mobius 25 years later"
> Scourge (on the villain team though)
> Lego Sonic

>>380417808
Dude, I was just joking

>>380385486
HD Chaos looks amazing

>>380382143
>>380414926
> Those ears
Is he a bat?

>>380385271
I am so autistic that i ripped the audio from that animation and listened to it on the bus and shit.

>>380401540
Metal Sonic and Shadow could both be flying team members.

>>380417696
fuck outta here

>>380383238
As long as "Tails playable" doesn't mean shitty mech stages from adventure 2, I 100% agree.

>>380420024
>HD Chaos looks amazing
don't forget that's just a prerendered cinematic and not indicative of how he'll look in game

>>380422836
Well yes, probably
But in-game I don't reaaly care.
I just really like how he looks in the trailer.

>>380384994
>literally repeating ecelebs

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>>380382143
>This game looks shitty
Awful gameplay, building upon Colors/Generations shit physics formula, stupid avatar shit, villains nonsense.
>somewhat decent at the same time
Production values.