HOW DO THEY KEEP DOING IT

>>380345630
Bump

One last hurrah

>>380345630
>best games of all time

Jesus Christ, do Nintenbros actually believe this?

They actually decided to develop a concept for once rather than doing the exact same thing in a new suit. Obviously moreso with Zelda.

Just think about what this means for Prime 4. Just think about it for a moment.

>>380345630
Odyssey isn't out yet, it could be shit

BotW is good but not as good as OoT, that game is timeless. SMO looks cool as fuck though.

Nintendo sucks though

>>380346474
go ahead and find me one (1) game on the psx better than either of these games. seriously, try

>still playing neokikeshitendrumpf games
are you 12

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>>380346545

>MFW trying to keep expectations low

OoT is still the best Zelda game though. It's severely overrated, like the franchise as a whole, but it's still the best. The series doesn't need a change to the formula, it needs a change to the setting, story, characters, and maybe even gameplay mechanics. The standard dungeon and key item routine is fine.

Mario Odyssey, on the other hand is a different story. It MIGHT top 64 if we're lucky, but it really cones down to how tight the controls feel, and that's something you might not be able to judge without playing firsthand.

>>380346806
ff7, ff8, ff9, syphon filter, mgs, etc

>>380346806
just go and google "games that came out in 98" and you'll see how wrong you really droid.

>>380347170
>ff8

This is bait, right?

>>380347170
etc was a shit game

>>380346545
>Just think about what this means for Prime 4.
Think about what that means if they ever do a new F-Zero game

>>380346474
Stop being such a fucking hipster

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>nintentoddlers are so retarded they wear their controllers on their feet while talking about how everyone else is wrong and these are the best games ever made.

>>380346806
Pepsiman

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>>380347734
>if they ever do a new F-Zero game

FUCK YOU, IT'S NEVER HAPPENING AND YOU KNOW IT

>>380347998
Damn. OP here, I can't refute this.

>>380347080
>The series doesn't need a change to the formula, it needs a change to the setting, story, characters, and maybe even gameplay mechanics. The standard dungeon and key item routine is fine.

Agreed. I think the worst parts of BotW was the lack of dungeon variety, tedious shrine and resource hunting making the game feel like work, and the removal of metroidvania elements.

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>>380347170
well you tried anon
>>380347475
I have no allegiance to any company anon

>>380347080
>It MIGHT top 64
I think it will. The new trailer is just crazy.

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I'm impressed with the level of detail they've gone into with everything.

>>380349139
>not inventing shit for the last 20 years is "level of detail" for ndorids.

>>380348259
I think my biggest grief stemmed from the lack of a sense of progression. Yeah, you get better items and junk, but your abilities are the same and there's no area you can suddenly access that you couldn't before.
>>380348797
The new trailer didn't show dick in terms of actual platforming though. It was mostly just showing off the games gimmick, which also seems anti imply that there won't be power-ups this time around because of the hat ability.

>>380347080
>The series doesn't need a change to the formula, it needs a change to the setting, story, characters, and maybe even gameplay mechanics. The standard dungeon and key item routine is fine.
Completely disagree, the series was already doing what you're describing and still stagnated because of it. They absolutely made the right choice to try something new with BotW, even if it may not be for everyone.

>>380349857
>The new trailer didn't show dick in terms of actual platforming
They're showing gameplay during treehouse. Still, not sure about powerups. Haven't seen any so far? I don't think they would throw it out but Nintendo likes to keep shit secret. We basically didn't know anything at all about Zelda so I think they're doing it again with SMO.

>>380348620
vectrex super OG

>>380345630
They saved up all their good ideas by not releasing any games for the past 3 years.

>>380349908
>the series was already doing what you're describing and still stagnated because of it
But they didn't. It's almost always been:
>Hyrule
>Red-haired antagonist (mostly Ganon)
>Typical Link
>Usually some significant female character, usually either Tetra or Zelda
>Same old enemies we've been fighting for decades (bokoblins, moblins, oktoroks, keese, deku babas, etc.)
>Sword, bow, shield, bombs, and boomerang
>Muh triforce
Holy hell, try something different for a change.

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Did Nintendo hire this many shills or is nu-/v/ just filled with tons of NintoddIers?

>>380350814
anon if you can't see how each game had a different story, mechanics, characters, and even world then I simply don't know what to tell you.

>>380345630
why is the left a screenshot from star road

>>380345630
I just like how Nintendo is making their staple series try new things that actually work out for the best. BOTW changed up the formula and was amazing. S/M changed up the formula a little and they were good. Odyssey changes a lot and it also looks amazing.

>>380347170
>7
>good
6 shits on it

OP has no idea what is saying.

There are more sales because there are more people in this world + more marketing.

SM64 and Ocarina of Time are examples of amazing programming.

Open your eyes.

>>380349139
>mario culturally appropriating british, mexican, american and chef culture

>>380349139
Can't wait to be Amarican.

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>>380345630
BOTW doesn't hold a candle to Ocarina of Time in terms of inventiveness. Yeah, sure, you can climb everything (which I'll even admit here is a damn fantastic bonus) but it's an incredibly lackluster game with a pitiful story and copy and pasted content.

Literally only three bosses (Yiga clan boss, Thunderblight, and the first form of Calamity Ganon) were even remotely interesting and each dungeon and shrine had the same assets and music.

Don't get me wrong, I still adore BOTW, but it doesn't come close to Ocarina of Time.

>>380350814
>Hyrule
>Red-haired antagonist (mostly Ganon)
>Typical Link
>Usually some significant female character, usually either Tetra or Zelda
>>Same old enemies we've been fighting for decades (bokoblins, moblins, oktoroks, keese, deku babas, etc.)
>Sword, bow, shield, bombs, and boomerang
>Muh triforce

None of these things were ever problems. Holy shit never make a game please.

>>380351171
>s/m
>good
nah
its cutscenes and hand holding, somehow they made pokemon

Nintendo Magic.

>>380351380
top kek

>>380346806
>The series doesn't need a change to the formula, it needs a change to the setting, story, characters, and maybe even gameplay mechanics. The standard dungeon and key item routine is fine.
That's why Majora's Mask is better than OoT tho

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Which outfits would you guys wanna see? Crossing fingers for Dr. Mario.

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>>380352238
>Which outfits would you guys wanna see? Crossing fingers for Dr. Mario.
Don't worry anon, that will be in a future DLC(Only 5 bucks!). Please look forward to it

>>380345630
Odyssey looks good but isn't out yet so we can't make that call.
Your picture is a Mario 64 rom hack, not Mario 64.
OoT is better than BotW.

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>tfw Nintendo actually fucking delivered with the Switch and is sending the 3DS out with a bang

>>380352434
Or locked behind the Dr. Mario amiibo.

>>380351064
Anon, if you can't see how miniscule those changes were to the overall lecture, then I can't help you either. There's a reason why games like Darksiders and Okami are so loved. They take Zelda and change everything except that core formula. You could argue, that they aren't quite as high quality as the Zelda franchise, but they've been ranked above many a Zelda game because the Zelda franchise has stagnated, and the formula isn't the problem. For what it's worth, I thought that Guardians were great and the shrines had a nice aesthetic, but they didn't go far enough with it. A regular Zelda game where you get spells to use on a Sheikah artifact while you explore magitek dungeons? That would definitely mix things up, especially if they drop some of the typical conventions of the series that I listed in the last post.

>>380345630
Well it almost took em 20 years to do it.

>>380352205
Majora's mask is great, but when it comes to content, it doesn't really stand up to OoT.

>>380345630
mario might be good, but BOTW is easily one of the worst in the series.

>>380347170
>FF8
>Syphon Filter
End yourself.

their developers are passionate about what they do while western debs care only about virtue singaling and use their video games for it

>>380348052
New Prime and a remake of Metroid 2 make me feel optimistic. If nothing else they'll just remake one.

>>380346953
You're trying too hard.

>>380352642
Okami and Darksiders don't really use the dungeon formula though

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>>380345630
Odyssey isn't even out yet.
BotW isn't as good/revolutionary as OoT.

>>380347998
Pepsiman 2 when?

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>>380346545
What direction do you think they'll take it in anon?

I'm thinking a large focus on multiplayer like in the DS versions - and that'll reflect in the campaign like every modern FPS, but the unique power ups is what'll be the new take. Changing how we move around in a 3D environment, like the morph ball was in prime 1. Or the grapple beam.

>>380345630
I don't know but you better believe Odyssey is day 1.

>Literally Mario: Banjo Edition
I've died and gone to heaven

>>380347080
>OoT is still the best Zelda game though
"Oh my god! Look at this massive landscape! It's so big! You can ride on Epona for hours! I mean, there's nothing to do but slash at a few infinitely spawning zombies and catch a few ghosts here and there, BUT IT'S SO BIG!"

That game was so fucking boring big and empty. Don't get me wrong, the dungeons were fantastic. I fucking loved them, but it wasn't enough to fill the open empty void of an overworld OoT was.

Majora's mask did a much better job. Every single location had something to do at some point. No wasted or empty space.

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>>380352238
'Nam Mario from the Game & Watch game is a personal favorite of mine

>>380353932
They absolutely do

>>380352941
>But when it comes to content
It has more content than OoT, it just doesn't spread it thin.