I fucking told you, it's another Mario 3D World garbage

>>380344439
the stream was in 720p you moron

>>380344439
>no, it's not youtube compression this time.
yes, it is
and no, you're not putting out good bait
for another year in a row

>>380344439
God dammit. Sunshine 2 when?

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>>380344439
>BAWWW ALL MY GLORIOUS SONY GAMES LOSE TO SOME ITALIAN PLUMBER

>>380344635
look at the textures it has nothing to do with stream quality you autist

Are we collecting moons this time?

The camera puts me off so much, I was expecting another sunshine/m64 game but it's just another Mario 3D world copy.

>>380344439
3D world was a great fucking game, so how is it a bad thing?

>>380344439
>AHAHA SOMEONE MADE RAELISTIC CURRENTYEAR MARIO NINTENDO BTFO
>new mario is exactly that
>WOW IT'S SHIT GIVE ME BY PLASTIC NINTENDOOMM
The sorry state of the sonislam cult.

>>380344989
>The camera puts me off so much
huh?

>>380344989
What do you mean?

>>380344439
I don't know how 4chan could survive without OPs like you, OP. Keep sucking that dick you crazy shitdiamond.

>>380344902
its nintendo textures

I don't want my Mario to be in hd, also Switch is underpowered we all know it, suck my big fat cock you disabled mongoloid

>>380344439
>same annoying Mario 3D World camera
blatant lie, the camera in 3D World is locked to certain direction whilst Odyssey's camera can rotate freely.

>>380344989
But the camera works exactly like sunshine or 64, what the hell are you an OP on about

>>380344915

Yes

>>380345324
3D world looked better

>Graphics make a game

What a pleb.

>>380345092
I wanted the focus to be more free roam platforming like 64 and Sunshine.
When you get segments that take away from 3D movement it really suck in my opinion.

>same annoying Mario 3D World camera
It's not though.

>>380344439
> /v/ yet again can only concentrate on the fucking textures because everyone here is woefully vapid

>>380344869
>muh sony boogeyman

Everytime

>>380345617
Yes they do, with graphics you are looking at a black screen

>>380344989
>>380344439
>>380345619
samefag

>>380344989
Just because the guy is good at controlling the camera that doesn't mean it's like 3d world

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T-thats right! You tell them!

>>380344439
its a fusion between 64 x 3d world
check the live system
i was disgusted at first but it seems at least the worlds are big as fuck

>>380345957
lol pleb

>>380346021
wrong
are you so surprised there are other people that share my opinion? in a thread of 22 people?

>>380346168
>muh sony
Like clockwork

>>380345324
>I don't want my Mario to be in hd
>I don't want my game to look good
How does it feel to be retarded?

>>380346587
how does it feel to swallow

>>380346361
samefag

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>>380346168
W-what are you talking about?! M-my new game will be the b-best Mario yet!

I haven't played a mario game since mario 64. Is there a suggested mario play order

>>380347065
yes, Ratchet and Clank 2, 3 and 2016 remake.
Forget about everything after Mario Sunshine

>>380347065
no, you can pick any single one.

>>380344439
>>380344989
The camera isn't what defines how they're played. Hell not like 64's and Sunshine's were even the same.

I wonder if OP actually played 3D world since the camera is locked on a angle.

>>380347519
Mario Odyssey looks a carbon copy of Mario 3D World except for the hat and some bonus stages

>>380344439
It actually is garbage, but not necessarily for the reasons you listed.
Everything inside a level looks the same. It's not that you could get lost or so, it just doesn't seem to have a lot of things to do. And since everything mostly looks the same, it feels pretty lame. I got bored watching the gameplay videos because of that.
Not much to do at all.

I'd probably buy it if I had a Nintendo Switch, but that's not saying much. Game seems very limited.

>>380345957
How can you say we're not looking at a blank screen even with graphics? Are graphics real? Am I real?

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/nu/nintendo is fucking awful. Pandering to hipsters and party people was a huge, huge mistake.

>>380347065
All the 3D games are a blast.

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3D world was great though

>>380348193

>that camera angle

it truly is 3D world garbage

absolutely dropped.

>>380345619
>I wanted the focus to be more free roam platforming like 64 and Sunshine.
But that's exactly what Odyssey has.

>>380348646
Yes, did you believe in /v/ "n-no it's a-actually dynamic xD" meme?

>>380348626
Well, yeah, but strictly speaking, it's not a 3D Mario game.
It's a 2D Mario game with 3D movement (i.e. Galaxy).

>>380348193
>>380348646
There is nothing garbage. it's like complaining that some of the castle part in N64 are streamlined. Or complaining of the fludless section of Sunshine.

This is still on the same level of free-roaming as N64 and Sunshine.

>>380349235
>This is still on the same level of free-roaming as N64 and Sunshine.
Nah. It's 3D world tier.

>>380349463
>Nah. It's 3D world tier.
It's everything but that. you didn't actually watch the gameplay.

>>380349785
I was watching the stream. It's 3D with a free camera setting instead of 3 angles of 3D world however when you move it means it's just 3D world with static camera

>>380349785
I did.

>No jump momentum

>>380350025
I'm not quite sure what you're getting at. Gameplay-wise, it's hardly like 3D World. Do you mean graphically?

>>380350025
>however when you move it means it's just 3D world with static camera
Uh? no. 3D world is more linear, like the galaxy games. Odyssey allow for lots of explorations and 3D roaming.

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>>380346804
I don't know, why don't you ask your mom?

>>380350196
>>380350514
The camera you autists. There are more gameplay variety but it has the same old boring 3D world sections

>>380351154
And Sunshine and N64 are some linear section too.

How is the camera an issue? Everything I have seen it has placed itself perfectly to see very well where you are going.

>>380351154
>y but it has the same old boring 3D world section
3D world wasn't boring.

>>380349163
What did they mean by this?

>>380351774
>are some linear section too.
I don't mind linear sections, I hate the
>low floor kill 2 enemies
>gimmick to go to the higher section of the level
>jump and kill 2 more enemies
>now you are at the top and the end of the stage is near
This is the problem

Looks like the best game ever to be honest senpai

>>380352175
That's one stage on the early level and the mexican level was way different than this.

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>>380350514

People trying to compare this to 3D World are terribly wrong.

3D World : 1 level you traverse with a goal at the end. Exploration of the levels is encouraged by coins/stamps. When you touch the goal, the level ends.

Odyssey: Kingdom contains X number of Moons. When a Moon is collected, you can continue playing the level. Exploration is a necessity in order to collect all the Moons. Coins are also needed to buy outfits/collectibles to decorate Mario's ship. There is no end goal like a 2D Mario or 3D World.

If anything, it's closer to a Banjo Kazooie game mixed with SM64/Sunshine. I wonder how many Kingdoms there are and how many Moons are on each.

>>380352937
but that's the problem, it has the 3D world DNA.
They can't simply make a sequel to Mario 64.

>>380353383
>it has the 3D world DNA
Nothing wrong with that
>They can't simply make a sequel to Mario 64.
Mexican level show that they can.

>>380353010

Found an article online that states

>(Nintendo says there are significantly more moons to find in Odyssey than the “stars” and “shines” in previous games.)

https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/13/15788152/super-mario-odyssey-nintendo-switch-preview-e3-2017


So with SM64 and Sunshine having 120 stars, I wonder how many moons well see per kingdom? And what's the minimum to beat the game? What happens if you collect all of them?

>>380345324
>I don't want my Mario to be in hd

keep telling yourself that, nerd

>>380346986
Has someone edited wojak wearing all the different odyssey hats yet?

The free roaming is a lie. What you have are worlds with a set of courses to clear for each moon. The only free roaming that you do is going to the start point of each course. It's completely streamlined.

>>380344439
>I fucking told you, it's another Mario 3D World
? What did you expect?

>garbage
SM3DW was great, what are you on about?

>gamecube textures
I mean it's on the Switch. This is Nintendo we're talking about. You don't exactly play their games for the graphics....

>same annoying Mario 3D World camera
I mean I think it could have been better, but it wasn't really that much of a problem for me personally. Also, I'm not entirely sure you can say it's the exact same camera mechanics just by looking at gameplay. I would expect it to be the same, but I don't think you can really know unless you play it yourself, but that's just me.

I mean, all things considered, the courses in SM64 and Sunshine were still basically stages with objectives ontop. This isn't much different, although it seems they actually have you activating objectives and doing them as part of the progression mid-play instead of constantly exiting and re-entering stages over and over.

Also the camera can be close up or overhead, it really depends on the situation and your camera control. This isn't 1:1 a direct successor to the more sandbox-y games but it's not 3D World either.

>>380353609
>Mexican level show that they can.
nah, it's better than 3D world but not anything that I'd call amazing or superb.

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They lied.

>>380349163
>It's a 2D Mario game with 3D movement (i.e. Galaxy).

I..... what? What does that even mean? Did you seriously just say that SMG isn't a 3D Mario?

>>380348193
What am I supposed to take away from this webm?

>>380354207
what is going on in this picture?

can anyone translate?

I recorded some of the Mario 64 tier, i'll post shortly

>>380354893
sandbox vs stage by stage

>>380354207
They didn't. Odyssey is like N64 and Sunshine.
>>380354284
He means that the level are designed to provide a linear progression(i.e. a single direction to go to progress) while game like sunshine allowed you mor exploration and a goal could be reached through several ways.

That does not make 3D world a 2D mario at all, bit that's how they simplify it.

>>380354893
It was from the game's unveiling earlier this year where they say the Galaxy games up to 3D World went one direction with linear stage designs that were point A to point B, but Odyssey was following more of the Super Mario 64 and Sunshine style of letting you explore and do things as you please

>>380344989
This isn't true at all. It's an open world Mario. Having said that, I think open world Mario is pure garbage. The concept is antiquated and was only used for 64 due to hardware limitations as a compromise. I would take 3D World any day

I'm lost. Did no one here watch the extended gameplay videos? In the Forest one, the presenter explores for 15 minutes straight, finding moons in all sorts of places. This is the most exploration based Mario game yet.

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>>380354284
>>380352053
i think anon is saying its just linear levels after linear levels with no outer world connecting them
i think

It's me or Mario+Rabbids looks better?

>>380354207
how?

>>380344439
and yet all of your muh graphics shit on xbox or playstation will run sub30 fps

>>380347721
Huh?

>>380355117
>Odyssey was following more of the Super Mario 64 and Sunshine style of letting you explore and do things as you please
And this is really unfortunate. "Doing as you please" is the problem with modern games and the reason why they're all trash.

Open world games are autism simulators for sheltered millennialist and the generation after them who all have ADHD, autism spectrum disorder, and fidget spinners. It's the video game equivalent to fidget spinners.

>>380355391
I wouldn't be surprised if that were true, they do have to follow the precedent they set with Zelda after all

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don't expect the entire desert level to be like this camera though
I think it will change to 3D world camera later on

>>380344989

I know it's bait, but you got me. Fuck off the camera is still m64 style and it looks beautiful

I'd rather they focus on making the game good rather then the 64x anisotropic filtering and tesselation on marios fucking nutsack

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>We're in a state of /v/ where nitpicking how the camera moves is a big complaint
Whatever happened to just playing games

>>380354207
Galaxy was such a good fucking game goddamn

>>380355638
>And this is really unfortunate. "Doing as you please" is the problem with modern games and the reason why they're all trash.
And it's sunshine all over again.

It will take what? a few months before the general opinion switch again and say Sunshine was a shit game, like they used to say a few years ago?

New Donk City and Mexico seem larger than anything in any other mario games. Explain that, faggot.

>>380355821
>playing another mario game
>In 3D Land/World camera
you can't be fucking serious if you are ok with this
At least there are places where it will have traditional mario 64 camera

>>380355638
This isn't the open world you're thinking of, though. Look back to Super Mario 64; when you go into a stage, you get an objective select, along with the bonus objectives, and they're delicately designed individual courses intended for these objectives. They're little sandboxes, not open world. Sunshine was much the same, even if a little larger in scale and actually having different courses visible from one another for some continuity.

This isn't open world, it's just small sandboxes to go from objective to objective and there's still a tight design interwoven compared to something like Breath of the Wild's foraging across miles of landscape doing a lot of the same thing over and over.

>>380356125
Hold down on the analog stick and it brings the camera back down in and behind Mario.
Wowee, it's a fucking versatile camera system, jackass.

What I want to know is if Mario's movement mechanics have been dumbed down or not.

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>>380344439
>Doesn't remember that switch downgrades visuals in portable mode

>>380354290
that bitch is TERRIBLE at video games

It really is basically another 3d world. The entire time I was watching it just looked like they were playing 3d world in a factory setting.

>>380344439
>3D world
>garbage

what is this meme? Also odyssey level design is clearly very 64 style

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>>380356292
No
This webm you can see it. there are places where you use the Mario 64 camera and then you'll move to the later part of the stage which is 3D World like in this webm >>380348193

>>380356125
Even if impressive for its time, the camera in SM64 and Sunshine wasn't good.

Chances are it's all about improving user experience with a comfortable camera and that's it, they have said from the very start that it's not a game like 3dworld.

>>380357103
Honestly to me it looks like a merger. When it comes to the smaller challenges it resembles 3D World's course design, while at other times it's more like Super Mario 64. All the while using modified controls drawing from the SM54/Sunshine games.

>>380357506
everything I've seen other than a few seconds of the desert stage are 3D world with awful textures.
I bet the city level will be 90% like 3D world

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>>380344439
>muh gwafix
you are the reason video games are shit now

>>380357869
You mean kind of like this?

https://youtu.be/iZIW9ztwsvs?t=59

>>380345957
Being literal with graphics making the game is still wrong since the coding and developers make the game.

>>380358051
holy fuck anon, Nintendo release 1 mario game every 3-4 years and they have a 120+ team just to work in a fucking mario game
3D world was finished in late 2012 5 years later we have the same textures

>>380357869
not him but I fail to see the problem with this camera system, so what if the camera locks in the sidescrolling section? rotating the camera around in areas like that would just fuck yourself over. As other pointed out, Sunshine and especially SM64 had poor camera controls anyway. also fuck you 3D World was great

>>380344439

if you want HD graphics you can play PS4 and PC. they are not going away. capcom's sucking their dick as we speak, even. you don't need mario.

Mario 64/Sunshine - freecam
Mario Galaxy - freecam until fixed cam area
Mario 3D World - fixed cam at an angle so you can't percieve depth

So which is this? It's looking to be closer to Galaxy than anything else.

>>380358489
Mario Galaxy is the most fixed camera of them all
And unlike 99% of /v/ I didn't like both wii games.
At least Odyssey is looking more like 64 than 3D Land/World

>>380344439
>Didn't announce a single new AAA IP
>Actual new game announcements consisted of game LOGO's and nothing else
>Nintendo killed the fan remake of Metroid 2 so they could force you to pay $60 for their worse looking one
>Announce a "Core" Pokemon game for Switch accompanied with the information that it won't be out for at least (18) EIGHTEEN MONTHS
>Xenoblade has been anime-ified to UNsalvageable levels
>Announce Kirby #354 and Yoshi #212

Mario looks fun gameplay wise though but graphics wise it looks like total shit and I don't think my eyes could stand looking at it.

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>>380344439
I like this semi linear go at your own pace style, reminds me of my waifu Ape Escape.

One day...

>>380358489
Odyssey is mostly freecam judging by the gameplay footage

>>380358810
Oh you hush now, the switch kiddies are starving for some games. They still want to claim E3 for being their essentially, and showing off odyssey. Also shame on the 2D metroid, still looks like trash compared to AM2R

>>380358810
at least they had the decency to make 2 Metroid games. If Iwata was alive this wouldn't happen.

>>380358810
That's still more than any other conference today

>>380358810
>Watching the Xenoblade trailer

>That English dub

They better have dual voices.

>>380356817
fucking already?

>>380360835
I'm willing to be people have learned from BOTW and you will have a voice pack.

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>>380344439

>below gamecube quality textures
>same annoying Mario 3D World camera
no, it's not youtube compression this time.

It doesnt look that great honestly. The main praise is from of course nintendo drones who have nothing to paly on the switch. They think the song is amazing because its the first real ish sounding song theyve ever heard, since they dont listen to real music. The worlds look largely empty, kind of like banjo tooie where everything is bloated and huge for no real reason. The level design in the bonus rooms looks very lazy, just slowly moving things you hang on to until the next slow moving thing comes your way

>>380348193

Why are women so terrible at games? Why is she fucking up the jumps on this game for children so badly.