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>>380254413
This'll be the first game I've pirated in over a decade.
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>>380254413
This'll be the first game I've bought in over a decade.
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>>380254607
>>380254743
If the tiny little Frenchman keeps surrendering to the rabid liberals on twitter I'll pirate if not I'll buy.
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>>380254413
>apologizing during his press conference
hilarious as now people who *were* going to buy this game think he's a coward for conceding, and your outrage screeching children from Twitter, tumblr & NeoGAF will still hate him (perhaps even more now) for thinking apologizing can save him regardless

Way to live up to the spineless coward stereotype, Frenchy!
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>>380254807
You'd rather he surrender to the rabid BoomerKuwangers on 4chan? You retards and the SJWs are two sides of the same shitty coin.
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what game is this
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>>380255027
This.

Imagine how it must feel to have your passion project become a hated flop because of some old tweets.
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>My cyberpunk game fully conforms to current-day social values and forms of control, please believe me!

Why even call it cyberpunk in that case? Cyberpunk is more than an aesthetic.
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>>380255081
No I'd rather he continued on with his original image of the game.
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>>380255181
Liberals Ruin The World™, from GamerGate Studios.
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>>380254413
>pixelshit faux cyberpunk

No
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>>380255458
t. women's studies student
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>>380255081
>"Rabbit Season!"
>"Duck Season!"
>"UGH! Can't you see you're both the same?! Horse shoe theory, sheeple!"
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>>380255545
>t. got muh GED
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Looks so hype. Hopefully he's not changing anything to appease SJWs. No buy if he is.
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>>380254413
I've seen no gameplay, but I'm already disappointed that idiots are gonna buy this because of some gay culture war instigated by a bunch of guys who couldn't find a more egregious example of games journalism being shitty and unethical than some frumpy chick fucking dudes to get good reviews.
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>>380255545
What the fuck are you talking about
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>>380255796
he'll have Zoe NPC as a must for all struggling indiedevs must pay tribute to the gatekeeper.
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>>380254413
Why is there outrage over this game again?
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>>380255962
Because it's set in a world where hedonism and progressiveness have reached their end goal of completely degenerate consumer driven society and fanatical liberals don't like that idea so they're going to hold some book burning rallies in protest.
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>>380255962
he made a gamergate tweet and Zoe, for whatever reason who keeps talking about how GG ruined her and wishes to move on past it but for the life of her, she goes out of her way to bring it up when someone upsets her.
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Zoe and her gang of cocks were vexed how the frenchy's game got more buzz than one of their friends and this was clearly a hit job. Who goes to look at a person's tweet history unless they want to hurt a guy's rep?
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>>380256252
It's amazing to me how few people actually know what Zoe did that started Gamergate, after all is said and done. They really did a fantastic job of censoring everything.
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>>380256168
How many layers of irony and these idiots operating under ? That's the very thing they are backing, how do they not like it
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>>380256520
She fucked 5 guys and the internet freaked out?
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>>380254413
>My cyberpunk is about if feminism/socialism wins!

That is not how cyber punk works considering their are only two end states for a socialist system.

>Technology stagnates to force the use of man power. everyone is employed doing something menial. the socialist government later collapses in on itself because going backwards in the name of equality never works.
>A civil wage is given to the people, machines take most of the labor jobs. consumer market shifts to creative and scientific industries. Humanity never stops advancing.

The first wouldn't count for cyberpunk and the second wouldn't be a dystopia. This is why almost all cyberpunk is about autocratic or capitalist regimes. With technology comes easier ways to control the proletariat for aristocratic purposes such as making them complacent with being fucked over.

Basically if you're going to do an "interesting new take" on cyberpunk I'd suggest having it make a little more sense than "things are bad because people with different opinions won."
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>>380256965
she fucked 5 guys for good reviews, got called out and started blaming sexist gamers
of course everyone believed her and then everything went to shit
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>be french
>somebody says something mean about me on the internet
>surrender immediately
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>>380254413
wtf I love pixels now
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>>380256419
Better question is, what kind of retard puts out controversial tweets that live on the internet forever?
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>>380256818
Because it's made by a white male I guess.
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>>380254413
I was thinking about buying it but then he apologized. That's too bad.
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>>380254413
I don't keep up with video game news much anymore.

What game is this? It looks interesting. Somebody just give me a name, I don't give a shit about the controversy.
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>>380257445

"The Last Night". It's going to be a platformer in the style of "cinematic platformers", so think games like Abe's Odyssey and Prince of Persia.
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>>380254413
I had this image for months as my wallpaper because I loved the asthetic.
Was a great feeling to realise it's a game this week. Can't wait for it
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>>380257076
Why was it even an issue in the first place? Who cares if she fucked some guys? Surely if there's gonna be a culture war, it should be over something more terrible than some chick making the beast with ten backs.
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>>380255027

i heard some of the tweet he was guilty of are fake

can you imagine about apologizing for something you didn't say 3 years ago? how fucking spineless do you have to be?
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>>380257193
Who would've given a fuck about a hashtag from 3 years ago? Also an indiedev couldn't have forseen a big publisher like Microsoft wanting to push a ad for his game.
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>>380257643

journalist are supposed to write about the thing they cover, not their friends, why is this concept so hard to understand?
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>>380256965
She cheated on her boyfriend with 5 games journalists and lied and manipulated him the entire time this was happening. Then, when he talked about it on his blog after they broke up, she doxxed him and told her followers to fuck with him.

The 5 games journalists she fucked all gave her game, Depression Quest, a HTML text game about a disease she does not have, good reviews.

History will remember her as a victim and a hero, though, just like it remembers Hitler as a villain.
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>>380255561
>if I preemptively call him out on calling me out on my hypocrisy it's almost like I'm right haha! What matters is to have the last word!
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>>380257574
Is there more to it than simply platforming? Any RPG mechanics or anything? I love cyberpunk settings but platformers don't have the greatest gameplay to me.
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>>380257643
the extreme censorship was what really kicked it off, never seen anything like it
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>>380257798

"gaming journalism" has and always will be a joke and if you ever took it seriously you're a retard and deserve the suffering.
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>>380257870

I don't know, I don't think there's been that much of footage of actual gameplay.
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>>380257076
This is where it went to shit. Tumblr inacded is with the smear campaign and used /pol/ as a scapegoat, even though /pol/ visits were minor as fuck at that point. However, the ones that did visit saw this and it triggered the influx of /pol/.
This is why we are in the state we are now. Everyone will deny this fact though. Just like how everyone denies how and what GG was about at it's conception
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>>380257801
But wikipedia told me gamergate 'concerns issues of sexism and progressivism in video game culture, stemming from a harassment campaign conducted primarily through the use of the hashtag #GamerGate'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_controversy
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>>380255258
Fuck are you even talking about
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>>380257928

true but the last time someone fucked up like gerstmann gate they just stormed the weather instead of hiding behind identity politic bullshit for 3 years

that's the main difference
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>>380257643
It was pretty much an stress test on the Streisand effect.
The more absurd were the measures of the game journos to try to stop it, more people found it hilarious and more it grew.

It was like an never ending roadrunner cartoon, with the Coyote amped to 1000.
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>>380257824
More like
>I preemptively shut down the usual refuted garbage memes that retards will reply to this with
And you figured "haha if I call him out on this I can somehow make it look like I wasn't a total faggot!"

Good job goym.
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>>380257801
Plus she got her tits out for money which is empowering.
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>>380257643
It was about jorno integrity. All this shit happened with Kotaku too. So of course people we're going to come down on it hard
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>>380255891
>some frumpy chick fucking dudes to get good reviews.
Nobody said that! And it wasn't even about her! Please believe me!

For real though that's not even what happened. There were no reviews.
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>>380258195
this desu
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>>380257798
>>380257801
Okay, so she got some good reviews in return and she was a bitch to her boyfriend, but was there really nothing else going on in games journalism that was worse? I mean, she wasn't even charging money for the game. Wasn't Anita Sarkeesian doing some shit that was WAY more shady?
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>>380258030
So it's just a bunch of ADD controversy mongering that you faggots are lapping up as usual.
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>>380255962
someone faked a bunch of old tweets from him, journalists ate it up credulously
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>>380257928
Yea and people wanted a fucking change
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>>380258365
and now shes smart enough to get the money and run away from the gaming industry.
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>>380258145

Who fucking cares? Is it really any different than review websites selling ad space for the games that they're reviewing? Even if game "journalists" never had any kind of contact with developers, they're still mostly incompetent with awful taste. If you ever gave any fucks up gamergate or any of that stupid bullshit, you deserve it.
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>>380254413
Wasn't the dev posting on /v/
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>>380258375
No man this is the resistence now buy the official resistance-sanctioned line of products!
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>>380258365
This had heavy evidence that was usuable and as I said earlier, involved Kotaku.
Speaking of, funny how a good chunk of /v/ now days is a ok with that shit show of a website
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>>380254413
You sound like a Drumpf supporter
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>>380258640
Just like all the kangz games right?
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>>380258764
Wasn't that Hulk Hogan lawsuit supposed to have killed it?
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>>380258764

Yeah because Gawker is dead, not the same people running it anymore. Now the shittiest "games journalism" site is Polygon.
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>>380256419
Yeah, because why accept the simple explanation when you can assume a conspiracy theory? That's not the gamergate way.
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>>380257574
how did you manage to not liken it to Flashback, you know, considering they look almost the same and were both made by Frenchies
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>>380255081
Pretty sure /v/ isn't getting people fired or apologizing for not including enough radical right-wing themes in their video games.

So no, the SJW is shit, and /v/ dindunuffin.
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The game is coming out normally right? Don't tell me it got axed
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>>380255561
>Using Rabbit season Duck season from Looney Tunes as a metaphor for why that's wrong when it's literally a cartoon metaphor for horseshoe theory
Bugs Bunney and Daffy Duck don't care about their own goals by the end of any looney tunes episode anymore. They don't care about surviving, they care about "winning" by making the other person lose (get shot). When the reality is they could work together and simply BOTH not be shot.

You literally picked the cartoon embodiment of horseshoe theory to say why horseshoe theory is bad you fucking retarded tribalisistic mouthbreather.
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>>380258898
literally exactly like that!
enjoy!
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>>380258103
This article is what made me truly understand why Wikipedia should never be trusted when I first saw it. Made me regret previously donating to it too.
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>>380257021
>A civil wage is given to the people, machines take most of the labor jobs. consumer market shifts to creative and scientific industries. Humanity never stops advancing.

The game is about that scenario, except most people feel life is meaningless, since there is no reason to do anything.
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>>380259127
yes
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>some one making a game said something I don't like better contact the publisher and try and stop it from being made!
I really hate these people, why can't anyone be free to create anything? They don't have to buy the game. I'm sick of gaming being politicised
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>>380258484

>who fucking cares?

i care

>is it really any different than review sites selling ad space?

yes, yes it is, identity politic is a cancer that sucks all the soul from creativity, just look at the comic book industry, that is what the videogame industry risk of turning into

i'm tired of videogame being slammed for every society problem in the universe, and i'm tired of good videogame getting shit review because the reviewer was offended by a sex joke on it
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>>380257824
>I can't stand for any principles of my own so I'll masquerade my indecisiveness as intellectual superiority

You're not even a fence sitting observer. Just a coward in the pursuit of self entitled sense of smug who couldn't even argue a valid point in general without a "neutral" riposte. You're far from the anon club box seats you think you reside in.
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>>380259274
But Bugs was already right and clever, and Daffy was always retarded and wrong (and shot).
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>>380259456

>i care

because you're a fucking faggot

> identity politic

okay then it has nothing to do with VIDEO GAMES and everything to do with politics. hmm i wonder what board people should go to if they want to talk about politics
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>>380259543
Yeah but Daffy usually pulls something off on Bugs per episode even if he never wins (Because it's a cartoon and the "good guys" have to win). They'd ALWAYS have both been better off working together.
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>>380259274
>thinks bugs and daffy were the same.
>calls other people retarded
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>>380259445

>why can't anyone be free to create anything?

But they are. Nobody can physically stop you from creating a video game and publishing it yourself.
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>>380257021
You're assuming all this based on some faked tweets.
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>>380257643
Because people finally had an excuse to be racists and sexists in the name of ethics. Fat neckbeards on reddit and 4chan dedicate their lives to raging about sjws in their little safe spaces. Then moan about black people and women in games. Both groups are extreme cancer.
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can someone give me a rundown of what happened????
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>>380259493

>if you aren't an extremist then you're just a indecisiveness neutral faggot
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>>380259756
only /pol/ does rundowns
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>>380259493
>I'll masquerade my indecisiveness as intellectual superiority
American politics are a binary system when it's proven that their are political systems in the world that support multiple parties all along the political spectrum. It is more than reasonable to not find the left or right in America as representing my interests.
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>>380259756
>developer made pro-gamergate tweets years ago
>fucktards are attempting to use said tweets as proof that the developer hates women in order to sabotage game launch.
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>>380259576

>call me a faggot
>use /pol/ as an argument
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>>380259576
>video games have nothing to do with video games
Anon, I...
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>>380257643
They never really cared about that. It was just a pretext for them to claim some kind of moral high ground so they could tell at women and post shitty memes.
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>>380259981
>developer made pro-gamergate tweets years ago
How long are we talking about here? Gamergate was about ethics for about six months before it became a baffling travesty about nothing in particular that every employee in the industry should very well know to avoid.
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>>380258968
The other day they literally had an article about Chrischan and how "shes" a really nice innocent person whos been bullied, after the comment section filled with proof of all the horrible shot "she" has done over the years, the writer of the article commented saying she didnt care as it "had nothing to do with the article".
Tell me again how they are not the shittest
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>>380259981

addendum: according to some trusted people, some of these tweet aren't even real and were made up in order to stir shit up
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>>380258365
Quinn was simply the spark that lit the powder barrel. For over a decade prior there were complaints about games journalism and their unethical practices. Things like dorito pope and ign reviews were never positively received, but people simply adapted to the new normal. Then one day a man comes and shares his anecdote that reflects negatively on a woman. It's a powerful story, I've read through it myself and from what he showed the evidence was damning. Individuals who already held a low opinion of women (a demographic that has overlap with gamers, not making a judgment; just a fact) whether it was from their lack of success, interest, or loyalty of their partners quickly picked up on this story and started parading it around.

This became the quinnspiracy, aka the five guys and fries happening and for five or so days a large amount of anons focused on ruining Quinn. I don't remember much at this point but the quinnspiracy rebranded itself as gamergate and began to channel all the internet harassment and indignation into something constructive: showing everyone how corrupt gaming journalism was. At this point Quinn became a minor target and gamergate began to go after larger fish like polygon and kotaku.

In short, shit was flung, milo whatshisface got massive exposure, websites got their ads pulled for a while, Sarkeesian and Quinn doxxed themselves, the misogynistic minority of gamergate shouted the loudest and were touted as the mainstream movement, the term gamer (allegedly) died, Moot kicked gamergate out, gender politics was thrust into the national consciousness, and 4chan got even shittier thanks to all the /pol/ kids this mess attracted.
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>>380259576
>okay then it has nothing to do with VIDEO GAMES and everything to do with politics

American comprehension
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>>380259576
Fuck you're an insufferable cunt. Nobody cares that you think you are too cool for this shit
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These issues didn't exist when women didn't force themselves into gaming, and now you there are faggots here who have the gall to bitch about those who are sick of the feminazi/SJW shit.

Fuck you millennial cunt rags that do this. They are still a cancer in the industry.

Give me Jack Thompson back.
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>>380260198

Yes, if only corruption was gone from video game journalism, THEN I could finally take it seriously and read fine articles written by professionals who know what they're talking about. Yep, I can't wait to read the opinions of people who write about video games for a living.
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>B-BUT MUH POL AND SJWS ARE THE EXACT SAME

When was the last time /pol/ went after a game, forced the dev to apologize, and threatened to have their industry contacts shut it down?
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>>380259896
>one side wants to play The Last Night
>the other side wants to blacklist the game over a 3 year old tweet and not give him a fair shake come release.
>"B-But muh radical centrism meme"

>>380259925
good thing I'm talking not talking about American politics.
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>>380259734
Hey tumblr. The smear campaign ended, you won. You can go back now
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>>380260419

You're right, I should start taking things more seriously, what kind of dystopia would the world turn into if we didn't have brave knights of video game journalism such as yourself?
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>>380260194
I see you posting this a lot now. Care to give some details regarding this?
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>>380256818
Because it's about how that's supposed to be a bad thing you dense motherfucker
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>>380260509
I don't get why SJWs always try to pull this "you're just as bad" crap, when every problem mentioned is soley a problem with SJWs.
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>>380260509

The latest far cry game. They weren't successful, but that doesn't really matter if we're talking about who is better than the other.
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>>380260198
You forgot tumblr invasion. They were the ones that opened the /pol/ floodgates
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>>380260641

sorry anon, i don't mean to spam, i just care about the fact A LOT because lies make me really mad

anyway here's your receipt
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>>380260157
I fail to see why the exact timeframe beyond "years" matters.

>>380260198
>Individuals who already held a low opinion of women (a demographic that has overlap with gamers, not making a judgment; just a fact)
You made a pretty serious error here, it wasn't a low opinion of "women" but "rabid feminists" that was the target. Quinnspiracy didn't rebrand into Gamergate, they were seperate movements. Quinnspiracy lead to the rise of GG due to it finding evidence of corruption in wider games journalism circles while digging through Quinns history(as well as the whole mass "gamers are dead" that games journalism tried to pull ringing 40ft alarm bells).
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>>380260749
>complaining about a huge AAA game
>going after small indie devs who are actually vulnerable and threatening to shut them down
>the same

How many indie games that are radically opposed to /pol/'s beliefs have been released in the last 3 years? How many of those developers were forced by /pol/ to apologize?
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>>380259707
>faked
Well, blatant denial has served you well so far, so why not.
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>>380260597
One where you would be constantly taking a big black one you simple minded cuck. Just go back to thinking everythings fine. This is too much for you
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>>380260509
>>380260738

>political extremists who freak out over minor things in media and attempt to politicize everything

I don't see the difference.
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>>380259692
They can cry at companies so hard they blacklist you though preventing you from being able to do it. Which is what these people try to do
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>>380260860

also no one checked if the tweet were real because we can't let some good old SJW outrage go to waste
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>>380260510
Even if it's not American politics. There's a spectrum to politics and no hard left vs right. It's entirely possible for no party in a country to represent an individuals interests.
Especially if you don't just take their positions and policies into account but also their actual trustworthiness to carry out what their going to say.
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>>380260881
You're absolutely right, my bad. The actual women haters didn't really show up until a week into gamergate.
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>>380260860
This makes me want to hurt these people
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>>380260860
I remember the bro team forum days, was stupid fun.
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>>380260943

>How many of those developers were forced by /pol/ to apologize?

Oh no, the SJWs made a company release a bullshit PR statement and the developer forgot about it a week later, how horrible! This is LITERALLY censorship 1984 happening right now.

>complaining about a huge AAA game

So the size of the target matters then? You think people wouldn't have been going after far cry 5 if it was indie? You think /pol/ cunts would've gone "oh no, it's a small game, it would be rude to complain about it being "sjw propaganda"!"
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>>380261007
they are politicised in the first place. that is the whole reason people freak out, because things are overly PC, unneccessarily so, and it alienates people
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>>380260881
>I fail to see why the exact timeframe beyond "years" matters.
Because it's been an angry unfocused disaster that nobody is steering or getting anything accomplished with (Internet BLM) for years at this point.
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>>380261027

When has that ever fucking happened? Name ONE person who was unable to release their game because of the big mean sjws.
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>>380260945
If the tweets aren't fake maybe you can link me to the tweets or an archive of them.
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>>380255258
I hate this they completely miss the point of how society would function in a cyberpunk world
when people are placing their bodies with robot parts it's already gone way beyond your homosex gender identity "issues"
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>>380261042

here's something tim instead actualy said
look at this horrible woman hating monster, how dare he speak against saint anita?
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>>380261223

> because things are overly PC, unneccessarily so

So are you saying developers should force themselves to be more offensive just because of politics?
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>>380261081
okay now explain how the people who want to play The Last Night are mirror reflections of the other side who want to sabotage a game's launch and possibly just outright ban the game?
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>>380257076
>for good reviews
Well that part was wrong though. Hence why the callout was a transparent excuse to bash her and hence why sexist gamers were entirely to blame
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>>380261443
Just be normal. How hard is that? Dont tip toe on fucking eggshells for literal fucks
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>>380261446
posted too soon. Because the only common ground these south park centric cucks want to cite is "both are angry about some conflicting issue"
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>>380261443
no. you understand theres a lot of middleground between those two things? why assume i want the complete opposite?
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>>380261007
Because rightwingers aren't shoving their hamfisted propaganda into video games.

SJWs are.

The reaction from both moderates and rightwingers is "stop doing that", not "we want right-wing propaganda in vidya too".

Rightwingers and moderates don't want any propaganda in their vidya, they just want good games, not bullshit social commentary.
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>>380261476
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>>380261446

Those same people would be doing the same thing if the developer was on the opposite end of the political spectrum.
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>>380261476
Got proof on how thats wrong fuccboi? Or are you just a little warrior who mever went back?
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>>380261443
why strawman?
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>>380261347
Plenty of people have been harassed/had their workplace called after disagreeing with people on Twitter. I remember Ben Kuchera tried to get a guy fired for having a different opinion. That's the mentality of these people, they cry about harassment then dox and call the workplace of people they disagree with. Remember the 13 year old boy idiots went after too?
https://bigotwatcher.wordpress.com/2014/07/18/trolls-attack-13-year-old-boy/ This is the first link I found on Google about that. People need to change their fucking attitudes and actually discuss with people instead of yelling YOUR WRONG REE at each other
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>>380261537
>>380261575

So how do you know when the developer is just being themselves and when they're forcing themselves to be PC?
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>>380257021
I am not familiar with literacy genres, but I believe there is a thing called post-cyberpunk, I fucking hate people who are currently claiming that it's not cyberpunk or calling it cybershite or whatever
I can understand if people disagree with his views, but to attack him based on the game, which is certainly a team effort, is just inexcusable
>Stabilised by universal income, people struggle to find their calling or identity, and define themselves by what they consume, rather than what they create.
hell, I don't know why people are making a fuss over the game itself, it just sounds like they went full hedonist
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>>380261616
That never happens. Which is the point. Rightwingers don't act like SJWs.
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>>380261379
He's found out the hard way that it's never been about equality for these people just destruction.
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>>380261684

I asked you to name ONE person who was unable to release their game because of the SJWs, and instead of doing that you tried to change the goalposts. Why is that?
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>>380261616
We literally are seeing the other end at the moment with all these "left leaning" games being show at E3. How many sabotage threads have you seen? I have seen plenty bitching but none, NONE trying to shut it down
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>the far cry shitstorm was barely a few weeks ago
>NO THE OTHER SIDE WOULD NEVER DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

glad to see that /v/ still has the memory of a goldfish
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>>380261708
When shit gets changed/ retracted because someone was """"hurt""""" by it
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>>380255081
>free speech for everyone
>ban everything I don't like
exactly the same.
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>>380261810
games should be political but only if they reflect MY leftist politics
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>>380261616
>won't even argue why the people in the current argument regarding The Last Night are the same
>cops out with this bullshit
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>>380261353
M8 he's gone on air apologising for them.
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>games shouldn't be political, people should stop politicizing games!
>now if you excuse me I need to go finish my playthroughs of MGS and Deus Ex
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There really is absolutely no hope left is there?
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>>380261604
tell that to twitter users mombot and ian fuckface who are all over this game just because it's "so bold" and "so different" even though this shit looks like a rightwinger's night in the woods.
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>>380262165
What was the political message of Deus Ex?
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>>380259121
>Pretty sure /v/ isn't getting people fired or apologizing for not including enough radical right-wing themes in their video games.
You mean /pol/, and they would if they could.
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>>380261446
What I'm trying to say is that Horseshoe theory is why nobody is stepping up to bat for this guy besides Gamergate themselves. Everybody has fucked off because everywhere you fucking see anything about Gamergate on the internet it's them yelling about the other side having an opinion instead of actually discussing the god damn issues.
>Le socjus cucks are trying to destroy another video games reeeeeeeeeee
>How dare this game developer who hasn't defended us or been a part of this for years not rabidly defend his nowadays controversial stance when he's been working hard on a game for years and wants nothing more than for it to be successful
>Instead of doing something useful like trying to get a message out
>"This dev is being put into a really shitty situation because of supporting us, people are trying to abuse their power to get this game shut down, please consider adding this game to your wishlist on your platform of choice and emailing them saying that you don't want the game taken down if you want to help. If you want to know who's having the game taken down, how, and why, follow this link."
Gamergate's message is a convoluted disaster that's turned into yelling about the other side in an incredibly similar way to the other side doing it.
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>>380262165
Hilarious as Desu Ex appealed to all the liberal heartstrings but got trashed for their "Mechanical Apartheid" interview
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>>380261792
You're the one who originally moved the goalpost, If you look at my original post I said they can harass publishers etc to drop you, whether they succeed or not doesn't matter, they actively try to do this shit just for having "wrong opinions" There has been cases of regular people losing jobs over this shit. It's a hard thing to find with google specific cases as none of it is reported on
But whatever you're just baiting me anyway so I guess you win in the long run cos I responded
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>>380262246
How so?
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>>380262165
those games are not trying to push an agenda, you can take away pretty much whatever you want from MGS whether your right or left.
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>>380261373
I think you're missing the point of how they're supposedly missing the point. Extreme body modification will put us beyond gender identity issues in the sense that they'll be easily remedied. It won't do a thing to address the people who feel that that is wrong and unnatural. In a way, modern trans issues reflect a lot of the same issues surrounding transhumanism.
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>>380262267
Gloablism is the death of the people.
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>>380260738
Is a leftypol tactic
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>>380262293
>You mean /pol/, and they would if they could.
They don't, because people who aren't SJWs don't act like SJWs outside of your imaginary scenarios.
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>>380261379
>Liked playing as Ellie in TLoU
>Bored of sexualised characters
>Bisexual main character
>"taking a step in the right direction to offer more diversity to gamers"

Wow what an SJW cuck amirite
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>>380262427

"NUKES ARE BAD" is not an ambiguous message.
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>>380262487
I thought the nanovirus was the death of the people.
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>>380261379
This guy is awesome.
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>>380260738
they always project
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>>380262571
Clearly you didn't read. That was mein kampf in that post.
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>>380262572
not really a divisive left or right issue that will trigger people though.
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>>380262572
Nukes ARE bad, it's up for debate if they are a necessary evil.
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>>380261446
That's a false equivalence. The other side isn't people who want to play this game, the other side is gamergate.
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>>380262993
Is this b8?
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>>380261651
Got any proof on how it's right? Like any review at all?

I remember when the official gamergate line was to vehemently deny that anyone ever accused Zoe of trading sex for reviews because they just couldn't make it stick. Now three years later people are posting their half-remembered accounts of gamergate and this little memo apparently belonged to the half they forgot.
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>>380262672
>Red Panels
More like Red Strawmans.
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>>380261604
>Because rightwingers aren't shoving their hamfisted propaganda into video games.
That's allegedly what this game is, though. And rightwingers are clamouring for it.
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>>380261745
>Rightwingers don't act like SJWs.
Clearly you're new to /v/ then.
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>>380263236
In what way is it a right-wing game?

"Not being a feminist" is a pretty centrist view.
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>>380263236
>And rightwingers are clamouring for it.
proofs
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>>380263134
>I remember when the official gamergate line was to vehemently deny that anyone ever accused Zoe of trading sex for reviews because they just couldn't make it stick.

how the fuck does Zoe's glorified html page win a indie contest against games like Paper Please? Someones getting their dick sucked.
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>>380262427
this, I always just saw it as government gonna be government type stuff
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>>380263313
They literally do not, as was already explained at least twice.
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>>380261810
How many people are "sabotaging" this game?

Define sabotage for me please. Because if it's having a negative opinion about a game or its creator, letting people know your opinion, refusing to support the game, and calling on others to do the same, then /v/ is definitely guilty of that a hundred times over. If it isn't, well, I don't see any sabotage going on anywhere.
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>>380262359
You cannot be serious. For starters you seem to be attributing a message to GG that it doesn't actually have, GG has never been about politics but rather ethics in games journalism and when GG TRIED to put a message out about it in the past, Zoe ran to feminists like Anita who repeatedly tried to drown it out with accusations of MUHSOGGYKNEES because of her involvement (see Quinnspiracy). GG as a movement doesn't exist nowadays as anything more than a boogeyman and the only reason it's come up is because of Zoe being the cunt who's pulling this shit currently.
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>>380263236
What?
They are clamouring it because a dev actually aired his opinion even if it offends SJW.

SJW want games to be about their agenda. This guy just made a game, and had the misfortune to leave in a era where you are crucified if you don't comply with SJW
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>>380263236
We don't know anything about this game except the setting. For all we know we could be a transqueer robot detective killing Cis-men who murdered our cyborg prostitute boyfriend.
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>>380262165
>thinking an 80s action movie plot is the same as "kill evil white Christians!"
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>>380263465
>Define sabotage for me please.
also pestering his sponsors (microsoft)
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>>380262165
>picks precisely two games that depict a world about grey areas and conflict, where noone is wrong or right
Holy shit how dense can you be?
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>>380263521
>where you are crucified if you don't comply with SJW

Like in my current workplace right now, but I have video-games to fall back to right?
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>>380262373
Well, "trashed"... more like regarded with scepticism.

What's even more hilarious is how they came crying to gamergate about SJWs curtailing their creative freedoms right after but all of that was forgotten come release and they got thrashed by the anti-SJW crowd... for "Mechanical Apartheid"
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>>380263814
>tweets are mostly about stupid thoughts
At least he is aware.
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>>380262765
So you're willing to forgive all that because he said Anita is bad? Where are your principles, /v/?
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>>380261810
Video games are the new marvel comics
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>>380260860
lol people are going with FAKE NEWS now about this guys tweets
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>>380263489
>GG has never been about politics but rather ethics in games journalism
Stopped reading there. It is not exclusively about ethics in games journalism. A sizeable portion of that "movement" is people getting upset at Social Justice Warriors. It was pretty much proto alt-right.

I fucking quit that shitty movement when they decided to make some game developer conference that used twitter for networking unusable that year and they flooded it with shitposting about Anita instead of anything about how the journalists in vidya are potentially harmful to developers (Arthur Gies spite reviewing games like Dragons Crown, Fallout New Vegas, etc)

You're a bunch of mouthbreathers with no clue what you want.
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After reading the publisher's apology, where they kept referring to him as "naive", I lost most of my interest. Unless they just drop the past and move forward with information on the game instead of making it all about some tweets the guy made in 2014, I may be interested again.
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>>380263814
Of course an employee at Ubishit would forget the law goes after seeders far more than anyone else.
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>>380263393
Okay so no proof then? Just your fucking opinion?
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It looks pretty good.
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>>380263842
The funny thing is that probably halft the staff think like you, even higher ups.

But since higher ups live through metrics and wellness bullshit, they just pretend to be PC.

Political Correctness is just turning into a selfsustained idea that pollutes and hurts our society, just like a big company too big to be controlled even by their own managers.
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>>380263463
Oh yeah, now "explain" to me how the world is flat, I'm sure it'll be just as convincing.

I don't know who you think you're fooling by denying what's blatantly obvious for anyone to see who has spent more than a day on /v/. Especially now, with E3.
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>>380264012
Holy shit I never realized.

Every time I see people discussing marvel comics I can't avoid to cringe.
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For those who thinks SJWs don't have an agenda.
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>>380263814
So pirating and seeding a game is sabotage? And you want to claim /v/ is innocent of this with regards to "left-leaning" games? At least try to make it believable m8.
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>>380263997
>So you're willing to forgive all that because he said Anita is bad?

bisexual characters don't bother us as much as kotaku likes to tell you it does. It's when it's pushed in the front of the marketing to increase draw power is when we shitpost about it.
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>>380263489
>GG has never been about politics
lol
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>>380264176
not the same anon you were replying to. Just giving my opinion. That game didn't warrant jack shit.
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>>380264398
nothing wrong with political aspects in games, much like there's nothing wrong with it in movies, books etc.

but SJW don't mean political when they say political, they mean ideaological
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>>380255027
>>380257096

DELET
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>>380264429
/v/ doesn't sell video games. Ubisoft does and is advocating others to do it while throwing shit fits when people pirate theirs.
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>>380263824
Hmm yeah maybe ur right maybe MJ12 had a point?!?

Bob Page was a good guy??!?!?

Big Boss using child soldiers was actually... a good thing?!!?!?!?!?!!?

What if... Skullface was right?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!??!
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>>380264520
>us
Fuck off usfag

This guy is virtue signalling like hell in that post and not a peep from you. You make me sick.
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>>380264398
This is just stating facts, though.

You got any more of them out-of-context powerpoint slides?
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>>380264262
Then we should sink down to the level of SJWs.

Instead of stopping at "this looks like shit", organize campaigns against developers and companies who put up SJW shit.

Harass their Twitter and FB pages, send them emails, and label anyone who disagrees as being "toxic".

Develop boycott lists of games that don't now to our politically incorrect demands.

SJWs keep saying "you're just as bad as us", so why not try acting like it for once?
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>>380264814
Oh, so you are picking the only characters that play a polarized role, to prove your point.

Because the developers clearly had an agenda to make us hate people who murder hundreds just for profit and exploiting children in war.

I was so blind man. Thanks for red pilling me!
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>>380264756
Correction, some twitter rando who worked for Ubisoft is doing that. I've seen plenty of people on /v/ who claim to make games as well.

Also, you're changing the subject. You can't use his alleged hypocrisy to distract from your own.
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>>380265228
Trying way too hard my dude
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>>380265339
At what?
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>>380264429
>So pirating and seeding a game is sabotage?
Yeah, and it's even shittier when someone who works at a big AAA video game publisher is saying he will seed an indiedev's video game.

Imagine Todd's face if someone at EA advocated piracy of Bethesda games.
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>>380264398
Ummm sweetie, fighting Drumpf is very important, I'm shocked you think people here would be against weaponizing games against the orangetang.
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>This is now a gamergate thread
>In the >current year

How fucking autistic you guys can be, this is pathetic.
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>>380265101
>stating facts
>out-of-context

What?
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>indie pixelshit
>memepunk
>"but this time it's got super duper cool lighting guise!"
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>>380265228
That would never work. That fighting on their element.

What you need to realize is that you do not need to comply with society, as much as society doesn't have to comply with you.

Just know the rules of society, and live through what you like, instead of living through what you hate (like they do).

Even if they win, even is society end up being like they pretend it to be, you will still win if you only nurture that thing you like.

Because even if it's not the norm, at least will be YOUR norm, and that is all that matters at the end.

Don't let them break you.
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>>380265396
Fitting in. You are so new it hurts.
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Just came into this thread to ask "What the fuck is a drumpf? Are you trying to make fun of trump? ebcause thats a very stupid way of doing it, and I can only assume this is /pol/s new meme that nobody but they care about like /tv/
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>>380265248
>Because the developers clearly had an agenda to make us hate people who murder hundreds just for profit and exploiting children in war.
You say this mockingly but there are people on /v/ genuinely upset that Nazis are being portrayed as bad guys in several upcoming games.

It's not just an "agenda" when you disagree with it. Everything sends a message. How about this: all of MGS has a very strong anti-war undercurrent. That's political as hell and strongly associated with the left. The stuff about the war economy also gets into anti-corporatism and anti-capitalism.

Deus Ex, like proper old school cyberpunk, is also heavily anti-corporatist. And sure, you can choose to trust the Illuminati, but you'd be a chump. The arguably best ending eliminates all existing hierarchies and class structures. And the prequels used augmentation as a stand in for all sorts of social issues. Politics, and especially left-wing politics, are written all over these games.
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>>380265430
>>380254413
DAILY REMINDER:
REMEMBER WHO IS WRITING HISTORY
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_controversy

Are you really ok with this?
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>>380265787
drumpf is trump's real name. you don't even watch john oliver? you're a loser my dude.
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>>380265705
The difference being, /v/ actually occasionally plays video games.

SJWs do not.

/v/ refusing to buy a game would actually hurt their sales, which in the end, is all any company really gives a shit about.
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>>380265413
So you're saying /v/ is actually sabotaging left-wing games on a near-constant basis and has no moral high ground to speak of?
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>Caring about the man, not the product

This is why /v/ and consumerism is dead. stop giving a fuck about who made the damn thing and just enjoy the media. For fucks sake, why are humans so interested in the other humans who make shit rather than just playing it for what it is. God you faggots dont even realize YOU are the source of all this unwanted drama, all because YOU make it so.
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>>380265787
>"What the fuck is a drumpf?
A john oliver meme who wanted to try to prove a point about Trump's stance on immigration even tho hilariously, it plays on the same xenophobia that he supposedly stands against.

A joke he made days before super tuesday when Trump won at all of those states during the primaries.
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>>380265768
You're scared because you know how easily it would work, especially in today's political climate.
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>>380255081
>You retards and the SJWs are two sides of the same shitty coin.
>say something offensive
>only one side leaves because they can't handle it

You've always been a turdskid.
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>>380265228
Yeah, that could work. You need a catchy hashtag to go along with it, like... #gamerhate or something. To show the things all gamers hate. You know. Has some real potential.
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>>380265891
>You dont watch john oliver

I haven't watched TV in 7 years flat because its a poisonous medium that I want no part of, and I could give two shits about anyones political beliefs or standings or anything going on the worlds that is remotely political.
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>>380265857
Yah.
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>>380266074
No, i'm just calling you new and found your post cringeworthy. I couldn't give too shits about your little chanology movement or fight the power! mentality.
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>>380265934
Then who buys EA games? Or Ubisoft games? It can't be /v/, can it? Anyone who likes that garbage is an SJW.
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>>380266149
That's a retarded hashtag.
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>>380258984
Who goes to look at a person's tweet history unless they want to hurt a guy's rep? Answer the question you fucking nigger.
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>>380265857
wasn't the author a /m/ lurker? and the mods banned him because he was editing it for 14 straight hours?
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>>380266367
/v/ still buys them even while calling them garbage.
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>>380266395
Alright, hear me out, maybe... #lamergate? Because it's about the scandal of all these lame people (or "lamers") influencing our video games?

Maybe #shamergame?

I feel it has to be something along those lines.
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>>380266367
That's normalfag fratboys you dumbass. They don't care about that shit and just want to ply muh shooty game of the month. The success of those companies has nothing to do with SJWs..
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>>380263179
>More like Red Strawmans.
#killallmen literally happened
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>>380256252
She's a professional victim. She is so pro she actually made it to the united fucking nations over how victimized she was.
Her patreon and other donation platforms will get a boost from all this.
Any time anything happens that upsets her, people donate shit.
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>>380266523
We play them, but we don't purchase them.
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>>380258984
I may go to a dev's twitter account, but I don't scroll to fucking 3 years, Zoe.
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>>380266445
lmao forgot about that guy, Ryulong or something

wonder if he an hero yet
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>>380266436
I know that's the only reason why you ever do it but maybe some people are actually interested in hearing a dev's thoughts?

I mean these tweets are the only reason they might want to hurt his rep in the first place so it's kinda circular to asssume they went looking for them to hurt his rep. The tweets are the scandal.
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>>380265857
I came here to talk about the Redpilled Frenchie's little game, not beating a dead horse.
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Honestly, does it care to normies? It only seems to be small fringe groups that care about better representation in games or that there's a black woman in the Beyond Good and Evil 2 trailer. Even then, the anger is only on social media and you really have to hunt for the "outrage".
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>>380266596
No, backlash is when people call it a -gate.

And if /v/ actually started doing this, there would be more gates than an international airport.
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>>380266632
It was literally one person who immediately tried to back out of it , calling it a joke.
>muh persecution complex
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>>380266776
"smal fringe groups" are the only ones who even know what the fuck beyond good & evil is at this point
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I wouldnt specially want to support some avid feminism supporter but the game looks good so Ill ignore the drama and play it anyway.
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>>380266654
So why should companies pander to you again?

I feel like this is a good time to remind everyone that "SJWs don't play games" is a dumb meme based on nothing but /v/'s weird wishful thinking about people who play games being like themselves in other aspects of their lives as well. The sheer amount of SJWs who offer in-depth opinions on obscure games, not to mention actually developing games, should show what a crock of shit that is, really.
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>>380255081
>rabid BoomerKuwangers on 4chan

Hearty kek
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>>380265857
>REMEMBER WHO IS WRITING HISTORY
>U OKAY WITH THIS

Most of my friends barely even recall gamergate, I still haven't figured out what it is about.

If a couple of /v/irgins can't make up with that shit, no way normies will remember your precious """history"""

also
>Wikipedia

neck yourself my dude
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>>380266885
I get the feeling you're not following me here.

Did you get here within the last year or something? Or are you just really, really dense?
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>>380266889
Wasn't it a college "diversity director" or something?
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>>380260749
>I will fall for literally anything
Anon, in the span of 4 hours, no fewer than 14 articles were released about that irrelevant, sad, pathetic little petition. More articles were published about the petition than it had signatures when the first article dropped. None of that strikes you as suspicious? It couldn't be that gaming news was real slow around that time so they decided to bring back the "geek culture is full of millions of stealth bigots" routine?
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>>380266983
This. I don't give a shit about twitter wars. I just like cyberpunk.
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>People are truly this guillible in this day and age

Jesus fuck kids should not be given internet access. Alright, heres how it goes, so listen up.

All this /pol/, /v/ talk of "Down with blacks" "Women in gaming" "Whitey gonna get it" etc, is not real. Its bored teenagers on the boards looking to spout negative context because they know they'll offend someone with it, who in turn will reply, and in turn will give them (you)s and start an argument.

Said instigator now gets to sit back with a glass of wine and watch his handiwork as two random anons fight it out on the internet at his behest thinking either one is now a racist/.bigot, etc.

If you truly think 4chan upholds values of racism, sexism, contrarianism etc, you need to leave. Its all a ploy used to chase off "normies" or rather, normal upstanding people who don't get ironic humor and keep this place "Secret" because of a likeminded value that chases off normal people and conflicts with their own values.

No person here on /v/ looks at a game and automatically dismisses it because of a persons skin tone, or because a women is on the cover. Nobody is that petty, they just use it as fuel for threads, and arguments, all the while playing the game and enjoying it on the other side of the computer screen.

Learn this simple fact ladies and gentlemen, Yes ladies. Don't act like there aren't women on 4chan as there clearly are boys, And you learn the secret to 4chan.
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>>380265829
>You say this mockingly but there are people on /v/ genuinely upset that Nazis are being portrayed as bad guys in several upcoming games.
While this is truth, there are people that are mostly pissed about having communists as allies (which is equally retarded desu)

> all of MGS has a very strong anti-war undercurrent. That's political as hell and strongly associated with the left. The stuff about the war economy also gets into anti-corporatism and anti-capitalism.
Completelly true. But on the other hand glorifies soldiers, and makes a big deal about what the real mission of a soldier is.

>Deus Ex, like proper old school cyberpunk, is also heavily anti-corporatist.
Yet it also shows the perks of working for corporations and being part of the big machine that connected society is.

>The arguably best ending eliminates all existing hierarchies and class structures.
I'd say you say that because you just agree more with it. I certainly see all endings equally good/bad, even the ones where the secret societies rule in the shadows.

>And the prequels used augmentation as a stand in for all sorts of social issues.
You are probably right about mankind divided (I couldn't even get past the tutorial with all the racial undertones), but human revolution made a wonderful point about creating a setup to challenge the player about questioning where technology is leading us. It had NOTHING to do with political correctness or social issues, you could read it that way, but you can literally do that with ANYTHING.

It was about science fiction, proper science fiction: Presenting a groundbreaking technology and showing and hinting all of its ramifications, and how it would impact people and society itself. Not reflecting current issues using technology as a metaphore.

Sorry for my english, not my first language, and writing in a hurry :/
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>>380266609
Oh yeah, normalfag fratboys are going to be so excited about all the new gay romance options in Bioware's next game.

So anyway the success of those companies also has nothing to do with /v/.
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>>380266761
Anita was interested in hearing a dev's thoughts huh.
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>>380266994
Because we could start autistically screeching at developers themselves, instead of at each other.
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>>380254413
yes
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>>380266689
Gamergate would, though ;^)

Maybe she just did a search or something?
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>>380267053
>Most of my friends barely even recall gamergate, I still haven't figured out what it is about.
Yeah, and now, when people will look about it, they will discover the great oppression women suffered that day : ^)
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>>380267197
Nu-/v/ actually thinks those things though. A massive amount of newfags who refused to lurk has thrown off the balance of the site.
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>>380266915
M8, it was the grand finale of Ubisoft's E3 press event. More people know about it now than in the past fifteen years.
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>>380267197
>Don't act like there aren't women on 4chan as there clearly are boys, And you learn the secret to 4chan.
jokes aside, i actually believe that 4chan is nothing but sex-deprived stay-at-home moms, except for me
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>>380267256
>"Nice game you got there...Be a shame if someone were to say 'misogyny.."
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>>380267361
Try "months"

This is why they don't let you write history
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>>380254413
looks inspired by this.
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>>380267446
>M8, it was the grand finale of Ubisoft's E3 press event.
the consumer base doesn't even know about E3 these days. this event is fringe.
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>>380267123
No.
Is there a reason you're entire argument is "I have to shit this down before it starts!"
You have yet to name a single reason why /v/ shouldn't start doing this.
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>>380267234
>Oh yeah, normalfag fratboys are going to be so excited about all the new gay romance options in Bioware's next game.
They don't care. Whenever they think of Mass Effect, they will think of 3 or 2s action gameplay and buy it because their friends bought it. You overestimate how much people care about this shit.
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autistic janny is making the rounds of deleting every threads on the board. get ready, lads.
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>>380267197
Any community that gets its laughs pretending to be fools etc.

At this point you're just fooling yourself.
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>>380254413
That sort of future is the one we face if blumph continues his reign of terror and right wingers continue to go unchecked.
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>>380266889
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/03/a-twitter-hashtag-probably-doesnt-prove-feminists-want-to-kill-all-men/359493/
it was a bunch of people and had a ton of apologists

apologists like you
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>>380266994
>SJWs complains about lack of diversity on video-games
>this is why video-games is sexist/racist not welcoming towards us
>gets a push/pandered

>Moderates complains about for whatever reason
>why should companies pander to you again?

Really makes me think
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Will I be able to play this without using fucking windows 10?
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>>380267542
the horror, those poor women
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>>380254413
Is the only game with a vaporwave aesthetic?
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>>380265986
What games you fucking spastic?
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>>380265829
>all of MGS has a very strong anti-war undercurrent. That's political as hell and strongly associated with the left.
Huhh... even if that's true, I have never, ever, seen a single person go "oh man, fuck the military" right after finishing a MGS game.

The reaction is most like "holy shit I wish I could be a super soldier!"
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>>380267893
Sorry if I don't get buttflustered by a literal who's social media war. Yeah dude I really feared for my life after that, every time a fat women with dyed hair rolled near me I started hyperventaliting and ran away.

Grow up you fucking child.
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>French buckling under pressure
AGAIN!
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>>380267216
>While this is truth, there are people that are mostly pissed about having communists as allies (which is equally retarded desu)
Worked for WWII
>But on the other hand glorifies soldiers
Soldiers are shown to be victims of war more than anything else.
>Yet it also shows the perks of working for corporations and being part of the big machine that connected society is.
And how only a privileged few get to reap the benefits.
>human revolution made a wonderful point about creating a setup to challenge the player about questioning where technology is leading us. It had NOTHING to do with political correctness or social issues, you could read it that way, but you can literally do that with ANYTHING.
It wasn't even subtle. They literally copied some of the rhetoric surrounding abortion at some point, with stuff about bodily autonomy. Also, the part where capitalism forces people to augment themselves and they become dependent on corporations and that dependency is turned against them, both in the form of neuropozyne and the Illuminati control chips, doesn't really have a positive reading, if you ask me.
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no but seriously wtf is this game and wtf is happening here?
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>>380267256
Surprisingly, people aren't the strawman /v/ makes them out to be.

It also wasn't Anita but whatevs
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>>380262210
No, there is not.

Wait, I take that back.

You can hope for it to end soon.
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>>380268042
>game developers
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>>380267323
Yeah, you definitely could. I mean, we already know you're basically SJWs in all but name, so go ahead and cement your reputation a bit more. Worked so well last time. Or is that times?

Those who do not remember history are condemned to repeat it.

Anyway so you're saying devs should definitely pander to SJWs
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>>380268460
Neat looking game whose developer once said a mean thing relating to feminism and subsequently apologizing for it on E3 stage.
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>>380268491
would love to see their games
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>>380267572
Because /v/ already did this. Did you get the extremely subtle reference yet?
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>>380255081
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>>380254807
He said it was long ago and he's changed his mind about the subject. Equality isn't a bad thing, anon.
Nu-feminism =/= feminism.

Game looks cool.
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>>380268361
>They literally copied some of the rhetoric surrounding abortion at some point
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>>380268315
>Yeah dude I really feared for my life after that, every time a fat women with dyed hair rolled near me I started hyperventaliting and ran away.
>Grow up you fucking child.
well that escalated quickly

and i'm not scared of this shit, i just don't think that it's a strawman to show a feminist with a placard that says kill all men
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>>380268463
>scrolling back as far as 3 years
>not suspicious
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>>380268769
t. tryhard pollack
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>>380268042
What is that purple hair thing doing with those sea mammals?!
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>>380267974
>Moderates
kek

You've been on /v/ too long if you think throwing a shitfit about black video game characters is moderate while celebrating them is an extremist position.
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>>380268664
thank you
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>>380268042
The only thing that's getting harassed around those fuckers is the buffet table.
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>>380268198
Fucking everything. Literally just look around. You're the one who defined sabotage as vowing to pirate and seed a game. You can't be this fucking in denial.
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>>380268776
>Equality isn't a bad thing, anon.
yes it is because it's a lie
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>>380256520
>yfw zoe is STILL mad about gg
>yfw zoe is STILL trying to milk it for pity points and money
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>>380268306
That's because gamers are largely manchildren. Video games are wasted on gamers.
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>>380268910
I didn't throw any shitfit about any video game characters, what was the original question again?

Going back it was this post >>380267974 to my post >>380266994
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>>380268818
>well that escalated quickly
If you can't handle "Grow up you fucking child" you really don't belong on 4chan.
>and i'm not scared of this shit, i just don't think that it's a strawman to show a feminist with a placard that says kill all men
It's not that you're scared, it's that you care at all. You are exactly like the SJWs who need some opposition to fight against to make them feel special. Let me guess, you've been here for like 2-4 months and think that this is some super epic staging ground against the evil feminists right? It isn't, it's a shithole that talks about video games and produces he same stale shitty memes over and over.
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>>380269189
>2016
You're just as bad as she is for digging up old shit
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>>380268910
>>380269204
I meant my post >>380267974 (You) to this post >>380266994

My bad
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>>380269189
Why was she okay with signing a movie deal with sony if she just wanted people to forget?
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>>380269138
>two people getting the same amount of money for the same work done is a bad thing
I bet there's something different with one X and one Y chromosome, but I doubt it's that substantial.
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>>380256419
She's probably just trying to salvage her shitty book's sales, Anon.
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>>380269204
>I didn't throw any shitfit about any video game characters
I dunno, you've got a problem with SJWs, and SJWs aren't really doing much besides putting in black video games characters (and female, and gay), so what's the problem again?

Point is, /v/'s complaints largely do not represent the moderate side and SJW complaints largely do.
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>>380269189
Her "misery" is what gets her more donations. Do you really want her to go back to her last job before being a professional victim?
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>>380268361
>Worked for WWII
It does.

>Soldiers are shown to be victims of war more than anything else.
Victims AND heroes.

>And how only a privileged few get to reap the benefits.
Yes, but the thing is that we are all privileged. The fact that you have the resources and time to post on 4chan about menial stuff like this proves it. Not that it's a bad thing. It's just a thing.

>It wasn't even subtle. They literally copied some of the rhetoric surrounding abortion at some point, with stuff about bodily autonomy.
These are more paralelisms than social commentary. Maybe I don't see it as such because I live in a country that gives bodily autonomy and abortion for granted. So eh.

>Also, the part where capitalism forces people to augment themselves and they become dependent on corporations and that dependency is turned against them, both in the form of neuropozyne and the Illuminati control chips, doesn't really have a positive reading, if you ask me.
Then again, those behind that plot are the SUPREME SUPER EVIL that hardly any person could agree with. Again not social commentary, rather a way to move the plot forward and also show case how that technology could backfire on their users.

I mean, there would be no narrative or grey area if augmentations where free for all and they had no downsides. That would be soap opera tier plot, not really science fiction.
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>>380256419
The game's been on the radar in the indie game scene for a while. People who care about muh politics would have noted his opinion after following him around the time he and his brother released the first demo.

Or some fat angry bitch looked through his twitter. idk
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>>380269213
saying something is an escalation doesn't mean i can't handle it
>It's not that you're scared, it's that you care at all.
i'm literally just correcting you on a fact

it is a fact that killallmen was a thing, so le redpills meme isn't a strawman
> Let me guess, you've been here for like 2-4 months and think that this is some super epic staging ground against the evil feminists right?
i lurked in 2009 and started posting when idra was still winning mlgs in 2011 i guess

you're totally overreacting to a set of very tame posts
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>>380261373
>bearish
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>>380269391
Wonder how many copies she printed for 1st edition.
Probably some ridiculous number and has to store the boxes in his home.
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>>380269441
eh, I'd smash
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>>380269432
see
>>380261604
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>>380260198
What about this from Wikipedia:

>In August 2014, Eron Gjoni, Quinn's former boyfriend, published the "Zoe Post", a 9,425-word blog post that quoted from personal chat logs, emails, and text messages to describe their relationship. The post, described as "a rambling online essay" in The New York Times,[7] complained, among other things, that Quinn entered a romantic relationship with Nathan Grayson, a journalist for the Gawker Media video game website Kotaku.[8][9][10] The post was linked on 4chan, where some erroneously claimed the relationship had induced Grayson to publish a favorable review of Depression Quest. Grayson had never reviewed Quinn's games and Grayson's only article for Kotaku mentioning her was published before their relationship began.[11][12][13][14][15] Gjoni later updated his blog post to acknowledge this.

Did Grayson review Depression Quest? Who were the other journalists that gave her coverage in exchange for fucking her?
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>>380268623
What nonsensical word salad.

Game devs pander to SJWs because they autistically screech at them.

If /v/ did the same thing, the worst case scenario would be "well whatever I do creates controversy, so may as well ignore both sides."

What are you going to do? Call us "SJWs", like you've already been doing?
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>>380269441
yikes
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>>380261476

>the articles fluffing her game don't have scores so they aren't technically reviews
>checkmate glooperglorpers

Go to bed Valkenburgers.
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>>380269471

You're arguing against someone who says that being against authoritarianism is a leftist position. Are you sure you aren't just wasting your time, anon?
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>>380267197
Nice bubble
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>>380269583
>saying something is an escalation doesn't mean i can't handle it
It means you were bothered enough to talk about it. Hyberbolic language is used here frequently, get used to it.
>i'm literally just correcting you on a fact
I thought killallmen was from this one "journalist" from gamergate. I had no idea it was an actual hashtag because I don't pay attention to useless things. I still don't give a shit.
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>>380268894
>anyone who laughs at my "both sides are bad maaaaan" schtick is clearly a nazi

I agree with you that the early South Parks were amusing. But they are not a solid foundation for your entire political and cultural worldview. M'kay?
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>>380269842
I'm curious, can you point me to the "reviews" puffing up her game? Who were the journalists who did this? Where do they work?
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>>380269879
I actually like this kind of discussions to understand myself better, not to convince other people.

I never though my society have bodily autonomy and abortion for granted.

You could say.... I checked my privilege
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>>380269286
we don't claim to be victims of a hashtag and wish everyone to forget only to bring it up if it can be used on your enemies (The french dev)
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>>380269471
>Yes, but the thing is that we are all privileged. The fact that you have the resources and time to post on 4chan about menial stuff like this proves it. Not that it's a bad thing. It's just a thing.
It literally has a line about the underprivileged rattling their cages as they die and serving as a warning to the rest. Another character gives a speech about the wage gap growing.
>Then again, those behind that plot are the SUPREME SUPER EVIL that hardly any person could agree with.
And so what it is saying is that by getting augmentations you're potentially giving the supreme super evil control over your body.
>I mean, there would be no narrative or grey area if augmentations where free for all and they had no downsides.
Right, but the downsides it is showing all relate to capitalism and corporations. And you could argue that it's just an extrapolation from our current society, and I'd agree, but then what kind of commentary is that on our current society?
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>>380269971
it's a discussion board, being bothered enough to talk about things is why we're here you brainlet
>I still don't give a shit.
ok, fuck off then
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>>380270037
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>>380270195
It is a cyberpunk game you moron. Do you know what cyberpunk means?
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>>380269615
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>>380270037
Both extremes are obnoxious idiots, and it's as simple as that.
Anybody whose opinions are based on unchallengeable beliefs is not a smart person
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>>380270250
kek
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>>380270457
That's not a girl, you know, Anon.
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>>380269971
kill yourself my man
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>>380270567
wouldn't be my first trap tbqh famicom
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>>380270567
>gender police

What did she mean by this?
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>>380254413
Remember to vote
https://twitter.com/Gameonysus/status/874305527588769796
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>>380270195
>It literally has a line about the underprivileged rattling their cages as they die and serving as a warning to the rest. Another character gives a speech about the wage gap growing.
Again, you are refering to the SUPER EVIL CHARACTER YOU CAN HARDLY AGREE WITH NO MATTER WHERE YOU COME FROM

>And so what it is saying is that by getting augmentations you're potentially giving the supreme super evil control over your body.
Yes... so? How is that social commentary? That's a ramification of the presented technology.

>Right, but the downsides it is showing all relate to capitalism and corporations.
Not really, it also show cases how "naturalists" could be at a disadvantage. The technology makes you straight up better, yet there is no room for people who refuses to use it. Reminds me about the movie GATAKA.

>but then what kind of commentary is that on our current society?
The one you want to find. Really.
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>>380269686
But that's wrong though

When you say you don't want female characters shown to be capable of holding their own, you're saying you only want men to be shown to be capable of holding their own, reinforcing the status quo. When you say you don't want black or female soldiers to be shown in a war in which they were historically present because they were a minority, you're saying you want to erase that minority's contribution from history and maintain an all-white imaginary idealised version of the past.

The status quo is just the status quo. Most people will arrive at it not through active consideration, but simply because they're not thinking about things too hard. That's alright, I guess. Could be better, but it's alright. But what /v/ wants is to aggressively push the status quo as correct to the exclusion of other points of view, and that is conservative propaganda.
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>>380270748
she's a transnigger and doesn't want to get lit up by oppressive straight white males
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>>380270921
I totally agree with you, expect for the "female soldiers to be shown in a war in which they were historically present because they were a minority"

https://www.t-nation.com/opinion/women-in-ground-combat
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>>380270762
https://my.mixtape.moe/dhcfyb.webm
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>>380269820
>What nonsensical word salad.
What irony.

It's not a matter of "if," it's a matter of "when it happened previously". We don't have to speculate about this.

You're also wrong about SJWs. Game devs pander to them because, well, treating people with respect is the nice thing to do. So generally all an "SJW" has to do is let their opinion be known for it to be earnestly considered. They're not going to pander to Nazis no matter how hard they screech.
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>>380269879
Could you quote me on that?

Pro-tip:You can't.
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>>380270037

WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS OBJECTIONABLE SIR
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>>380270151
>and wish everyone to forget
Who are you quoting?
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>>380271273
When have SJWs ever been known for being "respectful" in the entirety of their existence?
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>>380270424
Yes, I know very well. Anti-corporate messages are pretty much inherent to the genre. That doesn't render them meaningless.
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>>380271528
Zoe
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>>380271405

>implying I can't
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>>380270424
Rain, permanent night time and neon lights for no reason and asian metropolis city design.
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>>380270250
whoa, you figured out the point of the meme. nice
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>/v/ complains about no gameplay in the new spiderman and other games like days gone, uncharted etc.
>loves this

i fucking hate you all contrarian hipster pseudo intellectual faggot faced fat fucking cunts
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>>380268463
Well luckily for /v/ commies aren't people.
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>>380271916
So you agree it's dumb and super transparent?
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>>380271925
you kiss your son's grandma with that mouth?
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>>380271925
/v/ is huge and not uniform. Most of /v/ are also fucking idiots with varying, shitty opinions in a clusterfuck of idiocy day in and day out.
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>>380270831
>Again, you are refering to the SUPER EVIL CHARACTER YOU CAN HARDLY AGREE WITH NO MATTER WHERE YOU COME FROM
Who is incidentally representing the corporations. Super evil characters can definitely serve as a way to deliver commentary.
>How is that social commentary? That's a ramification of the presented technology.
How is that not social commentary, then? It's literally saying, here's what will happen if you take modern (capitalist) society, and you add this technology to it. And in a way it's representative of other technology as well. People are already heavily dependent on smart phones for many things. But they are still in control of the corporations who manufacture them and they control to an extent what you do with them. Very similar situation to augs in Deus Ex.
>Not really, it also show cases how "naturalists" could be at a disadvantage.
Because they're forced to compete on the marketplace.
>The one you want to find. Really.
It's literally just how technology exacerbates problems already present in society. It's what makes it so depressingly believable.
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>>380272109
yeah dude we're too intellectual for dumb low-brow things like memes
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>>380262572
Nukes are bad isn't the message. They've always been a commentary on deterrence when it comes to nikes.
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>>380272134
Most of video-gamers are also fucking idiots that spend most of their time playing "interactive visuals" day in and day out.
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>>380261787

This. Everyone seems to miss this point entirely.
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>>380270762
Holy shit that totally backfired
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>>380257898
>That pic
>They raided the archives
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>>380272264
Oh yeah for sure. It would be even worse if you used them in an actual argument. But I trust you anon you're too smart for that.
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>>380272503
me and you both
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>>380271616
Most of the time, really.

You should actually read some of the tweets or forum posts /v/ gets absolutely livid about. The guy who complained to Blizzard about Tracer, for example? Perfectly polite. The woman who asked Obsidian to remove a transphobic joke from Pillars of Eternity? A pillar of the community.

For extra laughs, compare that to the tsunami of shitposting people get when /v/ sets their sights on them.
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>>380272240
>still in control of the corporations
Should be *under the control of the corporations, or that gives off a very wrong message
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>>380272648
top kek
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>>380272648
>The woman who asked Obsidian to remove a transphobic joke from Pillars of Eternity? A pillar of the community.
why do you lie?
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>>380257643
It wasn't an issue. The only issue was that she got a favourable view from one guy she fucked. Had the guy or the kotaku editor apologised it would all have fizzled out over night; instead the games journalism industry circled the wagons, insulted their core readers and tried to censor the entire Internet, revealing a huge anti consumer political conspiracy.
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>>380272648
/v/'s biggest problem is itself. Anonymous 24/7 shitposting and memes makes everyone immune to how shitty it actually is, and they accidentally bring the stupidity back off the board and look like fucking retards.
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>>380254413
>The Last Night is set in a universe where Blacks (or NIGGERS) and Jews won, you play as the last bastion in decency, embarking on a quest to end degeneracy once and for all
What did the french director mean by this?
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Won't support anything that gets politicized one way or another. And especially not if the creator is a coward.
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>>380272854
Yeah, said it was hilarious, didn't I? But I'm not wrong.

So maybe if you want to get shit done, learn how to communicate like a functional member of society instead of trying autistic screeching like you're used to. What would also help is not having shit opinions no right-minded person would listen to in the first place.
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>>380272648
Nice delusion
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>this game looked nice I wonder what /v/ thinks of i...
>it's shitters shitting the shit board and don't giving a single shit about the video game
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>>380273096
>immediately surrenders at the first hint of criticism.
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>>380273570
"don't publish games by this piece of fucking garbage" --a respectful person
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>>380273713
if the dev doesn't have enough of a spine to stick with his words, why should I give a shit for the game?
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>When we were developing The Last Night we took a look at our real lives, and noticed how Blacks and Jews always fuck up everything, and so we thought: wouldn't it be wonderful playing a game where you fight against the root causes for the white genocide?
I think he might have gone a little too far on a few places.
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>>380272938
>The only issue was that she got a favourable view from one guy she fucked.
Well, the thing is, even that is a bit of a stretch. The guy literally wrote a steam greenlight roundup of fifty games, and included "indie darling Depression Quest" among several others in the preamble. That's the extent of it. And it might have happened before they were ever in a relationship. Honestly not clear on the timeline.

But also /v/ wanted to see him actually fired for it when he wasn't even working for the same publication any more. So when Shitaku did an internal investigation and concluded that they hadn't published anything corrupt or whatever, and had no reason to take action, well, they were right. But /v/ wasn't having it.

It also didn't help matters that a lot (like, the vast majority) of the attention was focused on Zoe. And that a lot of it was harassment and sharing nudes and e-stalking her and calling her a whore and a bitch. Again, getting rid of that shit wasn't so much censoring a legitimate issue as putting out a dumpster fire. And of course the biggest story related to all this was the gamers throwing a shitfit over practically nothing.

But /v/ was too hopped up on righteous fury to realise how completely sensible this all was when you consider what an actual non-issue we were dealing with, and out came the conspiracy theories about Zoe Quinn controlling games journalism with her vagina.
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>>380273570
>>380272648
You're a fucking joke Neogaf, leave.
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>>380273713
literally every single time
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Now they go after cyberpunk games too. Can't I just enjoy the games I like in peace?
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>>380274210

Because the game has to be out for awhile before he can say "Just kidding, SJWs and feminism are both cancer."

He was obviously forced to issue a fake apology to stay in development due to the usual SJW bitchfest.
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>>380273713
wow that memepunk pixelshit has neat lighting
and there's literally everything that can be said about the game so far. happy?
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>>380273570
>reasonable opinions
>kill all men
I don't think you properly realize just how far gone you are.
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>>380272240
I see it just boils down to your ideology. You are just projecting your believes in the games.
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>>380274754
Now when you are out of video games to talk about you can fuck off to /b/ or somewhere else.
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>>380274992
maybe if you bitch some. cry for me, bitch, cry.
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>>380272648
>For extra laughs, compare that to the tsunami of shitposting people get when /v/ sets their sights on them.

If you don't like Todd-posting, then get out, cunt.
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>>380270045

Grayson fluffed her game up a couple times, Robin Arnott was on the indie award panel that gave her game an award.
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Reminder that liberals started all this political shit flinging. Tired of the state of games and /v/? Thank liberals.
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>>380275478
Thank you, liberals. Fucking with both sides is the most fun I've ever had on the Internet.
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>>380257898

Right Wing Safety Squads is the one time where /pol/ actually did something objectively beneficial to society. Watching people's brains twist into knots trying to say they were actually doing something bad was hilarious.
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>>380271208
just because women are shit in ground combat doesn't mean they haven't tried
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>>380257643

"Gamergate" would have never become an actual thing if not for the subsequent "Gamers Are Dead" articles. After that, Zoe Quinn (ideally) should have become irrelevant.
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>>380264326

Whenever a game comes out that has LGBT themes or whatever yeah there's conservatives and pol-tards who cry about it but none of them suddenly start digging up dirt on the devs and try to get the game black-listed and the small minority who do try this shit are shouted down/ignored by the majority.

Meanwhile if you're an tenured professor at an accredited university and you say you think there's only two genders you will literally get SJW's trading around your personal info and digging up dirt on you from 20 years back to get you fired. They will call your work and friends and family and spread lies about you just because your worldview doesn't agree with theirs.

Also can you give me an organized side on the right that is as violent and disruptive as Antifa?

I admit people on far right have some egregious views, but they are allowed to have those views. Far leftists don't seem to get this and think it's okay to call anyone who disagrees with them a nazi and punch them despite the fact that they probably would have gotten their shit kicked in by an actual nazi.

I ride the fence and I can see how pathetic both sides are. The only winning move is to play videogames and not give a shit.
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>>380257898
>/pol/ triggered a bunch of drugged up communists by calling fire departments
>Drugged up communists then tried to raid /pol/
>They raided the archives

That was a magical day
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>>380274992

Suck a dick, anon
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>>380275903
If you notice all of these things, how can you say that non-SJWs are as pathetic as SJWs?
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>>380274253
>But /v/ was too hopped up on righteous fury to realise how completely sensible this all was when you consider what an actual non-issue we were dealing with, and out came the conspiracy theories about Zoe Quinn controlling games journalism with her vagina.

Reddit was getting shadow bans and threads deleted. The mere mention of burgers and fries on 4chan got you banned, and even youtube was removing videos trying to cover it. On top of all of this all the game journos push "gamers are dead" articles at the same time and have the gall to say "lol conspiracy theorists!"
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You guys also thought Hatred was /yourgame/
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>gaynur gate
Redditfags
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>>380275946
w-what?
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>>380276681
I'm glad the game was released and I respect the devs for having the balls to do it in this day and age.

The game however was shit
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>>380275662
>Trying to silence people
>Good
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>>380267197
Fuck off Anita.
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>>380256168
It's cyberpunk, Cyberpunk is the opposite of progressiveness you idiot, it's a world where corporations control everything.
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>>380276684
GOOBERGGLOBERS RRREEEEEEEEEEE
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>>380254413
>editing out the basic income part
Is this nigger serious? After all the support he got from industry veterans?
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>>380276845
How did that silence anyone?
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>>380276845
>Silence people
>A bunch of antifa faggots fucking and taking drugs in empty properties while creating fire hazards

I'm sure they'll find somehwere else to shoot up don't you worry princess
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>>380255081
I'm pretty sure that pointing out the corruption within any form of media isn't the same as being a reviewer that gets paid to give a shitty game a high score.
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>>380269821
>>380269441
Social Jewing Warriors are the true evil Hitler was trying to save us from.
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>>380276427

First of all, I never said which one I thought was "more pathetic nor did I even make an outright comparison in terms of comparative shittiness. You should read better.


But I don't side with either directly because they're both loud idiots that let their emotions get in the way of the facts. They are terrible in different ways, and perhaps even one is more terrible than the other. Certainly wrt to my values like free speech, I find SJW's and the left especially egregious so I would say I lean right in that regard, at least in our current socio-political climate but even ideologically I tend to find myself to be more of a moderate. I even sympathize with alt-righters like Milo whom I love just because he uses the platform of free speech to say abhorrent shit and it's great because SJW's are too scared to offend muslims.

Basically I find both groups to be ultimately useless to rational discourse and just because one is slightly or even appreciably worse than the other doesn't mean I suddenly have to champion the other side like it never does anything wrong. This tribalistic attitude is self-limiting and self-destructive.
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>>380255561
two sides of the same coin =/= horsehoe theory
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>>380257643
>Who cares if she fucked some guys that reviewed her game?
Oh boy I wonder who, people with ethics are such losers amirite?
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>>380254413
I like the art style, but haven't seen anything about the gameplay. Is it just a platformer?
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He apologized ON STAGE. Fuck him
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>>380257643
>Who cares if she fucked some guys?
yes, who cares if real games get shit canned out of becoming a big success all because all it took to ruin them was suck the dick of gatekeepers? Enjoy your surge of "thought simulators" instead of games in the future.
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>>380276845
>Stopping fire hazards and cracklandias is silencing people
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>>380277805
Tom Cruise is a crazy scientologist but I don't hold that against him when I watch his movies
If this game looks fun, I will play it independently of the creator's personal values and actions
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>>380277406
they both lead to the same tired "Me smart! you both are wrong" ripostes.
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>>380258103
>>380258365

Sarkeesian and Quinn are corruption incarnate, in case you hadn't figured it out yet.

Same as the 'journos' who hoisted them up as savants, and constantly speak against what actual gamers want from games, because "muh contrarian opinion of games is of the utmost importance compared to you peons constantly just buying games and staying home to play them"
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>>380275946
What do you mean they raided the archives? they couldn't even target 4chan properly?
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>>380276574

Why did they even think that was a good idea?

There was, what, 20 or so articles in the span of 48 hours all with the identical message of "fuck gamers".

Even if you had no idea "gamergate" was going on, that in itself would be suspicious to anyone.
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>>380276923
>editing out the basic income part
explain?
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>>380264045
>>380264541

I agree with this, GG was at it's core conceived through the Quinnspiracy shit which was disproven for the most part anyway (only one journalist reported on the game, and it was like two sentences before they even supposedly had the affair).

The thing is, GG tried to present itself as standing for ethics - an actual good cause. The image problem and the divide between trolls spamming the 'Literally Whos' and the people who actually wanted to change something with journalism.

I don't poo-poo anyone for supporting the movement, but the 'noble cause' was overshadowed by the nasty shit going on at the same time - I think the developer was naive but it's so fucking dumb to see people bring it up again just to throw stones.
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>>380277261
There is far more grey area than "champion a 'side'" and "not admit one side is objectively worse".

Nazism has nothing to do with "not being a SJW". The "sides" are SJWs, and everyone else.
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>>380276574
>Reddit was getting shadow bans and threads deleted.
Yes, because the whole subject was toxic as hell and no one felt like sifting through the 99.9% shit for the sake of the .1% pyrite.
>On top of all of this all the game journos push "gamers are dead" articles at the same time
Because it was a hot topic at the time and most of them were reblogs of two or three articles. It really didn't even require any sort of collusion.
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>>380274884
Maybe learn to recognise jokes before you comment on what's reasonable
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>>380278404
>I don't poo-poo anyone for supporting the movement, but the 'noble cause' was overshadowed by the nasty shit going on at the same time

And who told you that?

Was it the same shitty journalists who were the problem in the first place?
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>>380274961
No, I'm just capable of more than the shallowest media analysis. All this stuff is in there.
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>>380254413
Who gives a shit about the politics behind a game, as long as they are not something outrageous as Phil Fish's stupidity and arrogance?

It has a great style, but I'm not sure about the gameplay.
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>>380261373
>bear
>no twink, hunk or whatever
Booooooring
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>>380278676
this man can't even stand up to his own game. Why the fuck should anyone feel the need to defend him when he won't even stand by his work? The french are cowards afterall.
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>>380275131
That's not actually what I mean. I mean when /v/irgins try to get a dev's attention through social media, same as SJWs do. You will be inundated in anime avatars with bios mentioning kekistan and cultural Marxism and anti-feminism and a post history of hentai, WH40k, and #gamergate #notyourshield
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>>380278676
He should put that part back in. It makes the game sound far more interesting.
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>>380276845

See what I mean? Hilarious!
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>>380275478
All Anita wanted to do was critique video games in peace. You started the shit flinging.
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>>380279043
>I mean when /v/irgins try to get a dev's attention through social media, same as SJWs do.

When does this ever happen?
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>>380269365
Which I would not doubt you're an idiot for thinking so.
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>>380278746
Dude I hardly even check game journalism anymore, I became disillusioned years ago before the whole shit.

But anyone with working eyes can look at the tweets and reddit posts and see why GG had an image problem. It was a minority for sure, but when a lot of these people also champion #GamerGate then it makes it hard for people to take you seriously.

I wish that wasn't the case, but sadly it is. I learnt that when I supported the actual 'movement' but still found myself being called guilty by association.
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>>380275903
>Whenever a game comes out that has LGBT themes or whatever yeah there's conservatives and pol-tards who cry about it but none of them suddenly start digging up dirt on the devs and try to get the game black-listed and the small minority who do try this shit are shouted down/ignored by the majority.
Only because gamergate is banned here. They take that shit to 8gag probably. I haven't checked recently but I see no reason to assume they stopped doing that.

>Also can you give me an organized side on the right that is as violent and disruptive as Antifa?
Neo-Nazis.
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>>380279218
>All Anita wanted to do was critique video games in peace
lol
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>>380279218
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>>380276910
And also especially about how that's bad though
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>>380278493
>the whole subject was toxic as hell
Because they decided to make it so
It could have been a funny story that everyone forgot by now, instead they doubled down and blamed "mysoginy" for their own fuckup
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>>380279218
>All Anita wanted to do was lie, and paint video games as satanic anti-woman bully propaganda keeping the brown people down

Fix'd that for you

>You started the shit flinging

False. Anita critiquing = first stone cast.
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>>380279076
Because it is, basic income, rather than A.I or humanoid robots is the actual deciding factor of what could really cause cyberpunk to become a reality in our world.

When people don't have to worry about survival they do a lot of stupid shit, and the more stupid the person the more kids he/she will have.

Population would explode to a point where law in itself wouldn't be enforceable anymore and the state of anarchy you see in several cyberpunk settings would surely reign.

t. someone that lives in a place with basic income.
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>>380279218
>All Anita wanted to do was critique video games in peace.

Really? Because she made a lot of money from feminist cunts to do just that and then hey look at that DIDN'T FUCKING DO IT YOU BLITHERING NIGGER
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>>380278676
I'm interested in the game still but I have doubts that the developer's original vision won't be tampered with by the publisher now because of this twitter drama.
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>>380279448
>Neo-Nazis.
I don't know about Europe, but what violent demonstrations have neonazis held lately?
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>>380277879
>yes, who cares if real games get shit canned out of becoming a big success all because all it took to ruin them was suck the dick of gatekeepers?
I dunno, why would anyone care about shit you just made up?
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>>380278446

I didn't say nazi's were the opposite of sjw's. Your brain made that up and it should stop it if you want to have rational discourse. I only described how SJW's themselves create the narrative of "Them vs. Nazi's" where "Nazi" means "someone I disagree with".

I even said I tend to lean right in many areas wrt free speech in the current socio-political climate. Key word: current. Maybe you don't know this but many values held by self-described democrats and republicans have switched over the years and the waters have become even more muddied by the readiness of information, misinformation, fake news, and intentional disinformation.

Like I already said, I find more thing SJW's do egregious than things alt/far-righters too. So I guess if you NEED some sort of writing in stone that I find one worse than the other, there it is. It would do you good to actually read what people say though unless you just like making people repeat themselves.
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>>380278031
The butthurt is palpable

Found some actual proof yet that holds up to five seconds of scrutiny and doesn't require me to watch a five hour video and inundate myself in a bunch of memes and "board culture"?

Keep sending emails
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>>380262429
Transexualism is hardly transhumanism. Transexuals feel they can't change themselves. Not the opposite.
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>>380279448
Since when have Neo Nazis been a problem in recent times? Every such organisation is an FBI honeypot in this day and age.
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>>380278746
No, it was the actual nasty shit constantly overshadowing it.

Even the noble intentions were just a smoke screen and the gullible fools who bought it were human shields. It was always nothing more than an angle to get at Zoe and SJWs, because people HAVE to listen if it's about ethics, rite?
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HAH

I told you /v/, cyberpunk is the new zombies. Prepare to a shitload of bad quality normie compliant cyberpunk entertainment for the next 10 years.
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>>380267197
>Don't act like there aren't women on 4chan as there clearly are boys

tits or gtfo
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>>380279640
>Because they decided to make it so
Because gamergate decided to make it so. With its misogyny.

I'm not quite sure why you're not getting that spreading libel about people and calling them whores and sharing their nudes is both very sexist and not actually doing anything for ethics in games journalism. Even if you had a point you ruined any chance of ever getting to make it within hours of the zoe post breaking. After you'd dragged this woman through the mud with all your bullshit, literally no one cared when you said "oh and by the way maybe she was involved in this teensy tiny scandal no one would even give a shit about if it weren't for her involvement in the first place"
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>>380279242
Less and less, admittedly.

I guess they did realise it wasn't working. Shame they didn't learn why.
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>>380280359
>cyberpunk is the new zombies

I thought open world was? Cyberpunk is becoming too close to reality and is also a niche genre.
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>>380280616
>I'm not quite sure why you're not getting that spreading libel about people and calling them whores and sharing their nudes is both very sexist and not actually doing anything for ethics in games journalism.

She shared her nudes, though. Her frumpy ads was a suicide girl.

Why aren't you more body-positive?

Are you some kind of backboard MRA?
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>>380279650
Anita has never lied about anything and if you wanted to prove gamers weren't massively sexist you sure went about it the wrong way.

>Anita critiquing = first stone cast.
No. Critiquing is not attacking. What you did was attacking.

>>380279691
She did though.
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>read synopsis
>can't tell if it's supposed to be about the present or the future
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>>380280794

So, you can't name a single time?

Why do you come here to spread lies, then, especially when everyone is calling you out on them repeatedly?
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>>380254607
this.

might actually buy it honestly.
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>>380279413
>It was a minority for sure
kek
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>>380279914
>many values held by self-described democrats and republicans have switched over the years
I dunno, unless we're talking about the days of Lincoln I don't think they've changed all that much.
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>>380279983
>and doesn't require me to watch a five hour video
Sounds to me like you want a simple explanation of the situation handed to you on a silver platter, instead of actually watching/listening to the people who have take the time to go through various leaked chatlogs outlining the blatant behind the scenes collaboration of all parties involved in, say for example, the "gamers are dead" articles.

You could read the logs yourself if listening to someone bores you, but you've already shown that you have the attention span of a retarded gnat, so I don't imagine that reading a fuckton of logs will do anything except make you chimp out because you don't understand the situation. You would rather just suckle the teat of the "gamurz ar mysoggynitz" narrative because that's all you want to hear.
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>>380280616
>gamergate decided to make it so
Gamergate wanted to expose the thing, not bury it

>spreading libel
Libel only to false accusation, she actually did these things and the public was right to call her out

>After you'd dragged
I'm not part of gamergate, i'm not even american and dont have a twitter

If she apologized and moved on, none of us would be discussing it right now
All I'm seeing here is that she lived in her echo chamber and expected to call half her viewerbase sexist and just win the following flamewar
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>>380280013
They can't change their identity. They can change their body. It's actually cyberpunk as fuck.
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>>380254413
what game is this ?
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>>380280870
>is also a niche genre

zombies were too, and now look at it.
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>>380281807
The Last Night.
Visuals look pretty, I hope the gameplay is as well.
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>>380281801
el oh el
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>>380280914
Don't pretend for a second it wasn't a shaming tactic.

>>380281667
>Gamergate wanted to expose the thing, not bury it
I never denied that. They just went about it completely arse-backwards.
>Libel only to false accusation, she actually did these things and the public was right to call her out
False, and you still can't prove it.
>I'm not part of gamergate, i'm not even american and dont have a twitter
That's fucking great to know. You're just really invested in the gamergate narrative but you definitely want to stress that you're not part of them for some reason.

Maybe if gamergate apologised we could all move on. Even if you were right, which you were emphatically not, it would not have been worth the incredibly disproportionate shitstorm you threw at her. Speaking of fucking echo chambers, if you think there was anything remotely resembling a good point in all of gamergate.
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>>380281027
>Anita has never lied

LAWL gr8 joke m8 I r8 8/8

>Critiquing is not attacking

Oh all of a sudden, "critiquing isn't attacking"?

Despite the many individuals who have come out to refute her points and say "hey you're being blatantly dishonest about video games in your videos.", who then also immediately got blocked/comments disabled for simply "critiquing the critque" and then SLANDERED as being hateful bigots, for simply saying "I DISAGREE WITH YOUR ASSESMENT".

It's critique when you do it, but harassment if someone else does it. Of course. How consistent.

....yea, no, that's not how that works. Either they're both "attacks", or they're both "critiques". You can't have it both ways, Quinnita.
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>>380281096
Oh, I can, several. Even if you want to count gamergate as just one. Anita. Alison Rapp. Amber Scott.
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>>380254807
3 posts in and the whole thread got fucked because of politics.
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>>380282528
>Maybe if gamergate apologised we could all move on.
>Maybe if an unspecified, loosely affiliated "group" of random anonymous people on the internet apologized we could all move on.

makes sense
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>>380281496
If you have a shred of evidence it doesn't require five hours of disingenuous window dressing and leaps of logic to mentally prepare me to accept it.
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>>380283075
Did you actually just say that Anita is a developer?

Are you off your medicine, or something?
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>>380283362
They could all harass together well enough.
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>>380283547

I'll tell you what your kin tell everyone else

>Do a google search, and educate yourself
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>>380282126
Cool, keep not understanding either trans people or cyberpunk I guess
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>>380283031
>Despite the many individuals who have come out to refute her points and say "hey you're being blatantly dishonest about video games in your videos."
You mean take out of context and misrepresent and then call her a liar because THEY disagree?
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>>380283797

People voicing their own opinions individually one at a time is categorically not harassment, especially when no actual rallying organization is involved.

Unlike C.O.N. of course. But you know that already.
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>>380283747
Oh, my mistake.

Every dev /v/ mistakenly associated with her, then. So that also counts for several. Good catch.
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