xiv

>some random woodwailer instead of Geva
What were they thinking

>>380243025
she's right under him you blind nerd

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who is the best scion?

I want to marry Raya-O-face

>>380243143
Paplymo has been, objectively, the most useful of them all

How do I use HRT to hide my voice from my fc before I kill myself?

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I just hope Stormblood gives us a character you can care about as much as him

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Intending to start playing FFXIV for the first time next week. How long would it take for me to get through the Realm Reborn content to get to Heavensward, and then also how long to get to Stormblood?

>>380243326
a fuckn
long time

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>>380243141
I guess
Also this is apparently the leader of the woodwailer
Another dead npc since 1.0.

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>>380243325
It still hurts.

How do you deal with the trend of VoIP being used in almost every Free Company? Especially if you haven't taken HRT or had your voice change through it.

Basically - I'm a pre-everything transgender man who wants to make friends in the game, but with almost every healthy and tight-knit Free Company I've seen or been in advertising VoIP heavily, I'm finding that very difficult.

Beyond just being shy, it's an issue of how people will react to my voice. It's very high-pitched, so it's very likely they'll assume I'm either a 12-year-old boy or a girl who just likes playing male characters. Even if they don't care, they're likely to be a little wary of me because of it, since it makes me look like a liar if I tell them I'm male and come into VoIP sounding the way I do.

One of the few solutions I can think of until I actually start HRT is being in an FC that is 100% LGBT+ friendly and/or coming out to them before I ever step into VoIP, but even that doesn't feel pleasant at all, as even then I'm not guaranteed to be safe because of some of the stigma within the community. Some of the nicest people I've ever met have bashed trans people as soon as they're brought up, so I don't feel comfortable coming out to everyone in the FC chat at any given time just so that they'll understand, in a sense. Thank you to everyone who pointed out the phrasing here. What I meant to say was more along the lines of: Even people who I've been getting along really well with can end up being transphobic, so coming out to an FC chat as a whole can be very nerve-wracking. They're not nice people if they don't respect me, and that's something I have to keep reminding myself.

The only other solution is avoiding VoIP entirely, or listening in without ever speaking, which I've tried, and it doesn't help matters at all. You miss a lot of camaraderie if you avoid it, and being a lurker without being able to join in on the conversation just feels pretty sad.

>>380243326
A long time. A month at minimum if you poopsock.

>>380243713

Fuck off Balmung.

Why was there a proto ultima in Dun Scaith?

>>380243713
Nobody gives a shit. F2M trannies have it easy. People will just think you're young, or have a youthful voice.

Now if you were M2F you'd be fucked.

>>380243713
holy shit dude.
not even trying to be rude but take that elsewhere before you get flamed to hell and back.

>>380243367
>>380243729
Jesus. Would you guys recommend me to get the level jump or is the story of ARR worth it?

Also, what is poopsock?

>>380243729
How bad at video games are you that a 150 hours campaign takes you a month to complete while not doing anything else

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So 5.0 will be in Garlemald and include a gunshield tank class, right?

>>380243209
I was gonna say Louisoix, but that was before the Scions were a thing. I guess I'd have to agree with Paplymo then, he's got the accomplishment of escaping Ul'Dah with Lyse pretty much completely unharmed, a feat nobody else managed save the WoL/Alphinaud who had sizeable help. He then stalled a Bahamut level threat for quite a while.

I guess that's more telling how little the other scions actually accomplish without your help than him being particularly impressive though.

>>380243290
>>380243713
Please stop posting this shit every thread.

>>380243953
maybe he leveled a gathering class

>>380243872

Old MMO terminology that means playing the game so much you have to poo into a sock at your desk to keep playing longer.

>>380243872
this is a story based mmo, don't be in a rush to get to endgame raiding. just play it though and enjoy it.

>>380243953
maybe 150 hours if you focus on just steamrolling through the MSQ's, but theres plenty of shit to distract you on the way.

>>380243713
It's no wonder people like you off themselves so much, jesus.

>>380243143
Certainly not her.
Unless you mean as a cum dump, then she's adequate at best.

>>380244014
Does Cid count? Because Cid has done a lot more than anyone else. Even though he may not have stopped a bahamut-level threat, whenever you came to him for help, he had a solution.

>>380244074
>maybe 150 hours if you focus on just steamrolling through the MSQ's, but theres plenty of shit to distract you on the way.
That's not what that anon was asking

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>>380243967
NEVER EVER

What's a red mage's favorite clothing brand?
Versace

>>380243326
>>380244074

Don't worry about bumrushing your way to endgame. Take your time and enjoy the story with its side content. It'll be worth it in the end, trust me.

>>380244285
I don't think he's technically a member of the Scions, and just considers himself and his organization a friend. But yeah Cid is consistently the most helpful NPC ally you have, and the dude has never failed anything you've asked of him, despite always being busy as fuck.

I dont want to shit on this game too much but it's just not that good.

Like, I want to compare it to WoW, but actually I'm going to compare it to TOR:

I really feel like gameplay wise, mechanic wise they're both on the same similar level, but my issue is that TOR you actually want to participate in the story, in FFXIV you just don't. It's just not engaging enough.

but I think the biggest thing by far that pissed me off about FFXIV is the lack of character customization. I'm talking builds and itemization. There's basically none of it. Couple that with the fact that items can be transfered cross class over means that if you were to join a raiding free company they would most likely be telling you to switch to the most useful class for them.

Then there's small nitpicky things like having to grind for ilevel just to "unlock" the expansion. So you're basically grinding content that isn't even end-game and as soon as you unlock the expansion you can instantly just buy better gear straight off the vendors.

Now- I don't play WoW either. In fact I play EVE, but I used to play WoW and I think all WoW variants are absolute garbage at this point.

It's really sad. Final Fantasy is a great universe and sometimes I think the IP on a whole is better than Warcraft, but if you're just looking for a good IP just play SWTOR.

>>380243713
"I don't have a mic."

That's literally all you need to say. Unplug your mic if you have one, join in on conversation but never speak, only use text chat to respond to other people, and no one will bat aneye.

Now fuck off, faggot.

Im going to boost me an Astrologian on Friday and you cant stop me

>>380244531
>but my issue is that TOR you actually want to participate in the story, in FFXIV you just don't. It's just not engaging enough.
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>>380244014
>I guess that's more telling how little the other scions actually accomplish
Pretty much. Though Papalymo had his moments, like you mentioned.
It's funny how the Scions were willing to throw themselves into self-sacrifice when Papalymo and Yda were the first to stay behind and the only two to make it out.

They were just random goons, for fuck's sake, you useless bunch of cunts.

>>380243872
I don't think you'll have to level jump, you'll probably be 52 or so around the end of ARR, the XP increase to the MSQ is crazy.

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>>380244531
I ain't even gonna begin to read all that, nigga

>>380244702
Are all garlean women as ugly as Lucia

>>380243953
>>380244074
If i'm working like 4 days a week, but have most evenings and days off to play it, how long do you think it would take?

>>380244309
150 hours is 6.25 days.

I'd say anything past 6 hours a day is poopsocking. 150/6 is 25 days total of every day gaming.

A month is probably about right for someone really focused on it. And they won't just stick to the MSQ, there's other things that will catch their attention.

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>>380244817
Nael is pretty cute

>Let's add fucking spires and spikes everywhere
I fucking hate FF architecture
Interior design is rad as fuck though

>>380244934
>there's other things that will catch their attention.
There's a reason people highly recommend to stick to MSQ the first time round.

>>380244667
It's really fucking not though.

See in TOR your character grows, gains allies and makes decisions in the story.

In FFXIV there's probably a good 400 quests that you have to do just for the main story alone. Keep in mind that only probably 20-30 of these have actual story that is relevant- for example: Most of the time you need to go do "side quests" to progress the main story by "gaining trust" and this type of thing is commonplace.

You might finish 1 significant part of the story, then it's go do another 10 - 15 quests that have nothing to do with it.

This is not my OPINION. This is a fact.

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>>380244531
>actually I'm going to compare it to TOR
> you were to join a raiding free company they would most likely be telling you to switch to the most useful class for them
>but if you're just looking for a good IP just play SWTOR

>>380244912
If you stick to JUST the MSQ I think you'll be fine. Again, xp in the MSQ has been increased again, you will be over the required levels, which isn't a bad thing.

>>380245254
cool dude you're free to think that
go make a swtor thread

>>380243143
Source?

>>380244912
Just boost like me, izi pizi

>>380245369
I haven't played XIV or an MMO in a while, could you tell me what MSQ is?

I'm about to spend the rest of my lore on a WHM weapon talk me out of it please

>>380244817
we've only seen 3 one of which we haven't seen the face of, just wait til the garlean expac.

>>380245486
main scenario/story quests
basically the main plot of the game, behind which 90% of the content is locked

>>380245501
No
Do it faggot

>>380245501
And by lore I mean scripture

>>380244934
Jesus fuck, me and a friend just started this the other day and just hit level 15.
Is the story worth it?

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>>380244649
hahaha i am grinding to get level 60 mnk because i want to know what it feels look cool but be completely fucking useless

grinding my credit card on mog station, that is

>>380245614
it gets decent like 30-40 hours in
which isn't a joke and is kind of a big problem for new players

>>380245614
after level 40+, yes, 1-39 is worthless padding with a few interesting moments in-between them

>>380245614
Most of /v/ would say no, but the majority of the fanbase would say yes.
I loved it, but it does drag, a lot of sidequests are more filler than shonen series.

>>380243872
Play it like a Final Fantasy game the end game is really not worth the skip.

>>380245614
>the level 30-50 ARR storyline is decent
>level 53, in between ARR and HW will suck till the very end of it
>level 54+ for you will be godlike because Heavensward

>NIN is going back to 2.3 level of broken

Jesus fuck.

Which of you people wants to run potd 51-60 on odin right now untill they get bored like, probably 2-3 runs if we lucky?

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>>380246182
>NIN
>2.3

>>380245614
Take it from someone who started not too long ago and is about to finish it:
It suck ass until 45
It's not even about the scenario being cock or anything, it'sj ust a lot of small nuisance like endless backtracking, 60% of the quest will be "go say that to the NPC 3 feets away from me and come back to tell me what he said" and shit like that

>>380246182
>rotation is becoming 2.0 Paladin tier
But at what cost?

>>380245283
Okay then. Now for my "opinion"

The Raids are all garbage. Boring. Nothing to them. The game is unplayable with any kind of lag. (For example if you go up to even 75ms, good luck)

The best way to level is via the worlds worst dungeon. Meant to be a gimmick and like the old FF RPG's, ends up just being an absolutely awful rogue-like where you just kill 5-10 enemies and then teleport to the next level which is exactly the same again.

Character customization is absolutely shit. You have 5 human races with 1-2 things added on and then made them call something different.

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>>380246182
WE NARUTO NOW BOYS

RASENGAAA

>>380245061
Literally an Elezen head with a third eye taped on it. Not surprising, since all Garleans have the Elezen skeleton on their animations.

>>380246395
But 2.0 PLD only use 1 combo.

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>>380246395
3.0 pld.

>>380246461
>The Raids are all garbage. Boring. Nothing to them. The game is unplayable with any kind of lag. (For example if you go up to even 75ms, good luck)
So you are literally retarded and unable to even begin to function. Not even going into your opinion on the raids, but calling the game unplayable at even 75ms is just so far into shitter territory you'll clearly never recover.

>>380246489
Do nero and cid have elezen skeletons?

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>>380246461
You're on fucking crack. As someone that cleared all NiM content on TOR, and then switched to FF14, TOR NiM content is like FF14 HM content. The raids in FF14 outclass ToR by a siginificant margin. The only raid that can actually stand up to FF14 is Dread Palace NiM.

How does this game compare to the other Final Fantasy games? Asking people who know the series well. Not really interested in the MMO part but I'm playing through the ones I've not played.

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>>380246682
Correction, TOR NiM content is like FF14 Normal Mode content mechanics-wise.

>>380246682
and yet, I think TOR is garbage. FFXIV is garbage. And WoW is garbage.

Imagine that. You're still playing garbage.

>>380246506
>>380246580
>1-2-Finisher
>1-2-Finisher
>1-2-Finisher
>1-2-Finisher
It's not really much an improvement. Hell, in ARR content you'll only have two finishers so have fun hitting the same four buttons over and over again.

I really wish they at least kept Shadow Fang separate and just added a separate DoT on Dancing Edge instead.

>>380246720
It's different, don't expect it to play like other FFs. It's an MMO with an FF coat of paint.

>>380246829
o k

>>380246830
OVERLY COMPLEX

where are the prelim notes

>>380243872
Get the skip potions. Dont listen to people telling you the story is good, youll burn out by the time you reach heavensward and be skipping most cutscenes anyway

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>>380246829
then why the fuck are you in this thread crying about how garbage you think this game is

i mean like, you're entertaining me so thanks for the entertainment i guess

>>380246981
I think even the biggest XIV shill admits that the ARR story is horse shit. Don't bother getting a jump potion though, you're basically paying to not play the game at that point.

>>380246981
Don't listen to this guy. The story starts out lame but it gets better the further you go and once it starts rolling you'll be glad you paid attention to the earlier, comparatively drearier stuff.

>>380246889
Why is it a mainline game?

>>380247081
Take a deep hard think about what you're saying

You're really dumb, your iq must be 80-90.

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>>380247183
yeah, it will start to get good once you get to coerthas for the first time. before that though, its pretty much just typical mmo filler shit; no debate about that there

>>380247254
Same reason 11 was a mainline game. Because japs don't give a fuck. 11 had a better story.

>>380247254
Probably to trap suckers like yourself.

>>380246720
The initital Story Arc (ARR) is very MMO like, mainly your character doing odd jobs for people until a traditional FF Summon needs to be killed. The expansion storyline (Heavensward/HW) is a lot more reminicent of traditional FF journeys, in which you and a party of misfits travel through a new region to chat with an ancient dragon and hopefully prevent a war.

We'll know what Stormblood is like in a week.

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>>380247263
i guess so because i dont get it so explain it to me

desu it sounds like you're talking out of your ass at this point

>>380247340
>corethas
>not enjoying the autism of the titan feast

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>>380247554
oh lord how could i forget that

titan ex is still one of my most favorite boss fights like ever

>>380247163
I like the ARR story
it starts off acceptably small in scale for a novice adventurer, slowly picks up with you tackling more and more powerful enemies
>then titan happens and we dont talk about titan
and after that it picks up again slowly (garuda is kinda shittish but at least its got Cid), ending at a strong finish with praetorium
that said 2.1-2.55 storyline is agonizing until the very end

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>Have all crafters to level 60
>Ironworks slathered with materia, can craft Four Star in every profession
>Hear a rumor that unlocking crafting abilities in Stormblood will be tied to doing the quest chains
>Check my progress on the crafter quest chains
>There are some where I still have the level 5 quest to do

Fuck. The CUL one is the only one I'm dreading, though. Possibly ALC.

>>380247920
The questlines are fun though.

I hope you've done the quests on your gatherers at least because they already do unlock abilities past 50. Good ones.

>>380247920
If you're already 60 they will all be easy as shit. Unless for some reason you haven't bought your Master Book 3s yet.

>>380247915
>>380247340
>>380247183
>>380247554

I can't remember: what was so bad about the Titan part of the story?

I do like how the ARR story kicks off with you getting saved by Thancred and ends with you saving Thancred. Nice little way to establish how much you've grown.

>>380247554
I was actually getting physically angry during the titan saga
at least the boss fight itself was great

>>380247525
Okay so imagine a person that has played all 3 games. Right.

Now imagine a person that has played all 3 games at their peaks.

Now imagine that person having his opinion of those 3 games in their current state, and at their peaks.

Now imagine that he has rated all 3 games as garbage, and wishes people to not waste their time with them, despite the hype that some are getting because they've forgotten what a fun MMO actually is.

Now imagine a person that thinks that because I hate all 3 mmo's in their current state saying that I am not allowed to have my opinion on said games.

Now imagine other people also having this opinion. Millions of people. More people than the opposite party.

Now imagine how little I give a fuck when you say you "like" FFXIV, which is almost like a Furry saying he "likes" FurCons

Now imagine me being a genius and owning your ass in 7 lines of text.

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>tfw in a panicked rush to get classes to 60 before the early start

>>380248142
>QUICK WARRIOR OF LIGHT, TITAN HAS AWOKEN WE NEED TO KILL HIM N O W

>AH YOU WANT TO KNOW THE SECRET TO KILLING TITAN EH? HAHA FUCK YOU BUDDY MAKE ME A FEEEEEEAST IT'LL TAKE DAYS WHO CARES ABOUT TITAN LOL JUST GET THE FOOD WARRIOR OF LIGHT JUST GET IT

>>380248141
>>380248078

I got Gathering done. Actually made a ton of cash in the last few weeks selling off HQ Catkillers for the level 60 quest. My main concern is just running around and grabbing one or two of some materials because the quest demands an item that uses a material that is only used in the quest item.

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>even FF14 has a Hokuto no Ken reference

>>380248142
The lead up to Titan is the epitome of everything wrong with the ARR storyline. A bunch of pointless filler that leads to no payoff, and the worst part is the game plays this completely straight, as if to mock the last few hours you spent doing nothing.

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>>380248275
>writer's face when tried to make a fun, lovable quest about a feast, but ended up being the most annoying thing in the game

to be fair, Koji's translation only made it even worse

>>380248275
I was considering dropping the game at that point and it'd be the first FF I dropped. God that was awful, so obvious they were padding it out.

>>380248191
Do you get paid by the government?

>>380243713
voice chat outside of raiding kills the game.

no one ever will talk or respond to you in chat ever again.

why would you want to listen to other all day when playing the game outside of raiding

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>>380248191
man, you're all kinds of pathetic

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Containment_Bay_Z1T9_(Extreme)
Looks too complicated and if my experience with others tactics for triads right it's worthless on top of that too
Can someone make it simple? I want finally to try normal

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Who /ready/ here

>>380248420
>nd it'd be the first FF I dropped
What about ff8?

>>380248592
>Sophia wep

But why?

>>380248592
>ready to have your gear replaced 5 minutes into Stormblood

>>380248380
Limsa speak is cancer, especially pirate speak where you can't even tell if they're talking coherent sentences.

>>380248676
With an odd exception of NIN, best weapon set in the game.

all this crafting stuff I see people talk about looks really overwhelming from the perspective of someone wanting to start the game

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>>380248191
imagine yourself on a cambodian basket weaving imageboard crying like a little girl about a game in a thread that is about said game that you're crying about

the reality is that i pointed out how stupid i think your opinions are and you're crying like a little girl over it

i only needed 2 lines to own your ass sorry man its time for you to stop imagining things

>>380248760
dont worry, i have over a thousand hours in ffxiv and still have no fucking clue where to start with crafting

>>380248760
You can get by without ever crafting shit in this game.

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>>380246461

>75ms
>unplayable

>>380248630
Not the worst one despite some annoying mechanics.

>>380248845
Have you tried going to crafting guilds and picking up the intro quest, dipshit

>>380248275
Worse is they are treating you like some scrub with no combat experience when you had killed Ifrit literally days ago while woefully unprepared after getting ambushed.

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>>380248812
oh no thats 3 lines of text. i am correcting my own record here

>>380248530

It's really not a hard fight at all, you'll probably learn it a lot faster just by doing it than me even telling you

main things you need to watch for are soar, where you just pick a corner of the map and run to it, and tethers where you want to stay as close to your partner as you can while moving to the right spot. those are by far the two mechanics people fuck up the most, the rest is a cakewalk.

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>>380246461
>75ms
>Unplayable
(you)

>>380248939
the second someone says "levequest" my brain deactivates, so I don't actually know how to level them properly

>>380248945
>Further in your adventure with the Crystal braves(?)
>LOL GO HAND OUT UNIFORMS FAGGOT

>>380248812
You're the furry at the furcon.

Your opinion is invalid.

Mine is valid.

That's how the world works.

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>>380248945
>>380249125
This wouldn't have happened if we had been the WoD

>>380249125
God Alphinaud getting betrayed by his own special secret police was satisfying.

Fuck you alphiaud, fuck you

>>380249221
You're the one coming into a thread and shitting on the floor while screaming and crying incoherently

you're the goddamn furry

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Dead game.

>>380249125
>Everything about that fucking storyline
>Ilberd still gets his fucking wish after forcing our hand with the start of Stormblood

Ala Mhiggers are scum.

>>380249105
>Take a leve from the levequest NPC
>Go to the target NPC and give them the necessary item
>Leve complete!
>x2 EXP if the item is HQ

For leves themselves, you get them automatically daily. They can stockpile up to 100. To get a crafting class from 1 to 50 takes about 70, but you're better off getting said crafting class to 15 to 20 first so you get the most out of the exp scaling.

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>lvl 60 miner
>show up a couple times each day to gather clusters and sand
>the same people are there on a dailly basis
>feel an unspoken bond
>one day he stops showing up
>it doesnt feel the same without him
>wonder if the other miners noticed his absence

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>>380249394
>all the foreshadowing Ilberd does in 2.1-2.55
sneaky fuck

>>380249380
No you are. And i can prove it.

Mathematically.

As WoW dropped 7 million subs, any one of those 7 million players has more right than you to call you out for being a retarded furry autist.

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>>380249221
holy fuckin triggered man hahahaha that's all you have to say? just go away before you lose even more dignity hahaha

>>380249595
>BTN
>Already in the cuckshed since consumables aren't worth fuck all
>Show up at an unspoiled node
>The fucking thing despawns just as I start gathering.

>>380249693
what kind of learning disability do you suffer from? please keep posting it is really amusing

>>380249812
Your game is shit, you keep playing. I will not. Lmao.

You haven't read a single word I've said and you still think you're arguing at a high level. Cmon pal- Your brain is about as shit as your sisters autistic child.

>>380249236
>insufferable nerd tries to outsmart the (((lalafells))) and the smuggest man in eorzea
he got what was coming to him

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>>380249812
but he's right though hahaha

>>380249390
stop playing on Zeromus

>>380249917
I dont even play I just like hanging out in these threads. watching some random autist have a meltdown is a great bonus though. do you have some kind of medication you need to be taking? something that stops you from seeing red when you see the letters M M O anywhere?

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>>380249752
>>380249595
>Only DoL at 60 is MIN
>tfw you feel scared about it going to the cuckshed in SB

>>380250143
>I dont even play
no shit you don't the game is fucking garbo

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>>380249917
then why are you still crying on this thread? if you're doing it to amuse us please let us know, i have been very entertained

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>>380249595
>>380249752
>>380250191
>not leveling up MIN and BTN at the same time since they're exactly the fucking same

If you're higher than 50ms or using some shit like wtfast or pingzapper just fucking QUIT

>>380250191
why would it?
as long as crafting exists, people will always need clusters

>>380250289
good to see you admit you're a spastic after all
acceptance is the first step anon

>>380250297
Same reason people telling Trump he's a shit president.

>>380250143
>I just like hanging out in these threads. watching some random autist have a meltdown
Funny, 'watching some random autist have a meltdown' is why people in this thread are watching you.

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>>380250362
i play in NA servers with 250ms+ and you can't fucking stop me
im in your fucking groups
but since i've played mmos for years i've learnt to more or less make up for the delay and can perform pretty well to the point where i doubt you'd notice i was especially laggy, especially in a community full of really shitty players

>>380250449
I love the fact that a 3rd dude just started shit talking and now everyone's confused who is who.

Fuck.

FFXIV is still a god awful game and should be uninstalled completely.

>>380250338
because lvl 60 mining gives you 4 eorzean hours of freetime if you want to make millions and thats hardly time to smell the roses so to speak

>>380249596
I mean, they threw a ton of foreshadowing in that shit was not on the up and up with Ilberd. Some fairly straight stuff like Riol investigating the 3rd squadron for having more funding, and that being where Yuyuhase and Laurentius were. Yuyuhase literally never ending any conversation without mentioning how he would do anything for money, literally fucking anything.

Then some camera stuff like just settling on Ilberd walking away for too long, or showing some of the 3rd Squadron doing stuff for no reason.

And then some minor stuff like Landebert refusing your invitation to join the Crystal Braves because he knew the syndicate would somehow get its gil into their pockets and take control, and he'd just end up with a fucking dagger in his back poor Wilred.

Also an excuse to post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj6eQ7oitJo

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>>380250448
then what would that reason be
i dont understand what President Trump has to do with ff14 man lmao

>>380250449
that was my second post in the thread lol

FINAL FANTASY 14 ISN'T GOOD OR FUN.

IT IS OBJECTIVELY WORSE THAN TOR, AND BOTH ARE OBJECTIVELY WORSE THAN WOW.

JUST PLAY LITERALLY ANY OTHER GAME.

>>380250559
Your people lost to fucking birds that can't even fly. Your internet is like India is to the rest of the world.

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>>380250579
There are like 5 of us just going all in on one guy actually.

its part of the reason why i started responding like i ive been smokin a bit too much man hahahahaha lmao

Plus, responding to this guy like that is getting him even more triggered GG

>>380250759
Why? This game is fine and it has the added bonus of pissing people like you off :^)

>>380250648
cause sometimes even though you can't actually change something you can make people who made the retarded decision in the first place feel like fucking shit so they never ever do it again.

You're like a feeder but for MMO Devs.

>>380250759
counterpoint: it's good

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>>380250759
well i think its fun and so do a majority of the people posting in this thread do

so why the fuck are you even here man we honestly dont care and we're just leading you on because its funny dude

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>>380250786
>tfw the only shitposting anyone does against your country is that one time like 6 guys failed to kill some birds
feels so fucking great my dude
i get a bit of a chub every time someone talks about emus because they can't think of anything else to pin on australians

anyway please remove double weaving my ping can't handle it ty

>>380250559
I play EU with 300ms+ and still run rings around the other DPS on shitty fucking datacenter.
Though that's hardly a fucking accomplishment.

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>>380250759
(you)

I bought this game last week, got to max level today and am already bored.

2/10. Grindy as fuck and no story. Especially if you skip it.

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>>380250902
but you aren't making anyone feel like shit
we're all just laughing at you, not with you man

lol you're fucking delusional, kid

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>>380251106
>no story. Especially if you skip it.

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>>380251106
>and no story. Especially if you skip it.
Well no fucking shit, Sherlock.

>>380250972
You're the fucking minority, so instead of being like "wow, my opinion is the best'

You should say

"yeah this game sucks, and its kinda dying but I just like final fantasy"

and id be klike - why not just replay a diferent game that is also good you know?

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>when the AST gives you all the balances instead of anyone else in the 8man
feels so fucking minty my dude

>>380251106
This is some HQ mooching

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>>380251106

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>>380251106
>no story. Especially if you skip it.

>>380251253
It feels bad having to tell my AST friend to give it to another party member if I'm not on top of DPS.

Also boy this thread is getting derailed pretty hard.

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>>380251243
then why is it only you crying about this game on this thread

and besides, you're the one acting all holy about your opinion man lol i just pointed out why i wasnt a big fan of your opinion and instead of debating on whether Nefra NiM 16-Man was more mechanically intense than Shiva EX, you resorted to just calling me an idiot for having that opinion bro lmao

live letter when

>>380251550
12hours

>>380251540
i really wish you guys would get banned for instigating a flamewar so we can talk about the game but alas mods are asleep

>>380251467
It's just two faggots both trying to get the last word. Business as usual on /v/.

>>380251243
are you done yet lol

>>380251106
ive been playing for 4 weeks and at first I liked it but i just wanted a red chocobo and everyone says i need to join a free company but i dont get why i would want to do that its not like i consider my self easy or anything id rather just join a company thats not free

>>380251728
What if it's just one guy jerking himself off?

>>380251763
i'll do you a special deal anon, i'll let you pay me to join my company.

>>380243713
m2f here, I just made an application post on my server's Facebook page and included in it that I'm transgender. I also avoided voice chat for the first month or so to give myself time to establish myself. I've received nothing but support.

>>380251467
>Also boy this thread is getting derailed pretty hard.
Just some bored /vg/ falseflaggers. Like we had a while back with BDO. Pay it no attention and it'll go away.

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>>380251253
>not saving Balance untill you get Expanded to make it 8 times as powerful

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my fucking diiiiiick

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>>380251958
>futa au ra WoL

>>380251935
>8 times as powerful
I think you need to recheck those calculations.

>>380251909
at least BDO has world pvp

FFXIV forces you to do dungeons just so you can play a game that you already bought

>>380251958
>only 3 pages of kan-e and yuri
>become disgusting faceless men gangbang with a fat cow after

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>>380251958
>You wanted a Kan-E-Senna doujin?
>Too bad, here's 10 pages of futa au ra OC
Never felt so betrayed

>>380252072
8 party members
Casting Expanded puts it on everybody on the party instead of one person.

Therefor it is 8 times as powerful.

This is assuming an 8 man full party.

>>380251881
I honestly hope someone slaps you upside the head and knocks that gender bender shit right out your damn skull.

Just kidding :)

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>Pre-ordered two days ago
>Might not get early access

>>380252313
wait shit fuck what
I still haven't pre ordered because I heard you can basically preorder after early access has started and still get in
s-should i go preorder right now? I have the money

>>380247920
Oh shit thanks for reminding me anon, i never did bother to do the bsm and arm questlines even though i have all crafters at 60

whats the cheapest place to buy Stormblood now?

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>>380251958
>Kan-E on cover
>barely in it
>mostly about futa OC lizard
At least it's an accurate portrayal of 99% of XIV porn shit, I guess.

I got the stormblood preorder on ps4 and for whatever reason it cancelled for everyone who got it on ps4

>>380252206
Expanded cards are half the normal potency of a single target base card. That's 4 times the effect at best. Not even taking into account some people not even taking advantage of the boost which often happens.

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>>380248592
I'm trying but it's kinda hard to find a decent farming party after the echo, I keep getting those "but I've been to 1%!" faggots joining groups and then someone always has to fuck up something

>>380252371
It takes two days to get the code, for one thing.

>Pre-order disc Stormblood for PS4
>The Stormblood content will be a mandatory patch anyway and I get early access, meaning the game knows I paid for it already.

What the fuck is this disc for, then?

WHY IS IT NOT FRIDAY ALREADY
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>380252582
what about if i play through steam

>>380252803
Then you're a fucking moron for one thing.

>>380252731
Because some people still hold on to physical content for literally every form of gaming as if it still holds some relevance.

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>>380252963
I didn't know any better ok
and now my account is tied to steam

>>380252803
right click game in library
"view CD key"
stormblood early access

go to Mogstation and you can input the cdkey to add it to your account

>>380252990
No I mean like, do I even need to put the disc in?
Will it force me to use the disc for absolutely no reason? Will it work normally once I put in the code, then disc lock me once I use it?

PS4's whole system when it comes to this kind of stuff is nebulous.

>>380252803
You get the code instantly without needing to jump through hoops, provided they still have keys. You're also using a retarded version and your friends are assholes for not warning you.

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>Made stupid mistake and put ice on the fire
>dpsed only on the first and add phase
>Generally could perform better
>3 comms
Guess not dying to the mechanics counts as something too...

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>Dayan says to Mide they'll one day return to the world once they find the perfect future
>they're reborn thousands of years into the past
wew

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>>380253052
Just buy it again through the Square Enix Store, friend! The convenience is well worth the price, especially with the new, low cost complete collection download!

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>>380244531
SWTOR's IP is an abominable, Bioware-ed version of Star Wars, I mean after the last expansion your character is the Emperor ffs

SWTOR is cringeworthy since 3.0 and even leveling isnt fun now because it was made so easy that your companion solos bosses

vanilla and 2.0 were mediocre and yet compared to what it has became they were masterpieces, not to mention all funding goes to cash shop and cinematics

its a joke

Seeing how much money they put into marketing I'm expecting this to be 100% garbage with almost no content to do after the two extreme primals

>>380253140
That would explain why all the Au Ra look inbred

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>>380253095
>>380253118
Well, that was easy. No 2 day wait for me, I guess steam is actually superior after all!
whats actually wrong with using steam

>>380253132
Nobody cares what a tank does as long as he doesn't die and keeps agro

>>380253215
Accounts are stuck on Steam for PC once you start there. You basically have to burn your file or switch to console version to escape that hell.

>>380252582
do you get emailed or....?
when does this thing start anyways

>>380253140
Yeah, something so terrible happens in the future that Alexander estimates that it's worth sucking all the land's aether to go back to the past.

>>380253317
nothing, but memes will never go away

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>>380253345
You guys just keep parroting "wah wah steam is so bad a bloo bloo bloo" but haven't listed a single reason it's bad

Personally I like having access to steam overlay for convenience and for chatting with friends

>>380253346
Amazon's shit says they'll email you in two days after the pre-order transaction takes place (and that is indeed what happened for people before).

The actual early access starts Friday.

>>380253317
you have to buy the expansions through steam, and they don't go on sale as often as anywhere else

that's it really, it's not a huge deal if you're buying them on release anyway

>>380253345
>hell
OH NO
I CAN PAY FOR SUB WITH GABE BUX
WHAT AM I TO DO

They even made collector's editions for Steam users this time, the fuck are you whining about

>>380253532
thanks lad

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>>380253345
Who said anything about buying the PC version first, goy-I mean, good friend? I simply meant they could buy a PS4 download. Perhaps they could even buy a default PC version as well, just to make sure.

>>380253317
You have to use Steam. Mileage of complaints vary by user, but >>380253567 has the most of it.

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>"Last time we could barely contend with the remnants of a single Garlean legion"
>"so let's go fucking attack the empire"
??

I know a military city state whose people are veterans of a thousand year war just rejoined the alliance, but they seem to be contradicting themselves a bit.

>>380253798
>you have to use steam if you buy from steam
woah....

>>380253140
>>380253428
They better not pull a Bravely Default and the world resets at the end of FF14

>>380253847
I mean its not like we're attacking Garlemald. And the trailer makes it look like our attempt to free Ala Mihgo goes really very poorly.

>>380253847
They don't really have a choice. Ilberd provoked a war regardless so may as well go on the offensive.

>>380253798
>you have to use steam
You gotta be fucking kidding me.
Youre telling me
I have to use
the platform I bought it on??

DROPPED

>>380253847
After the wall was destroyed it was pretty much inevitable that the Empire was going to counter-attack. By pushing a bit further into Ala Mhigo they're assuring that the bulk of the fighting won't spill over onto Eorzea itself and they can use those Ala Mhigo revolutionary retards as canon fodder.

Pretty much, the entire plan of The Griffin in the first place was to set up a situation where the empire would definitely be guaranteed to attack the Alliance no matter what they did, so the Alliance was forced to preemptively attack the empire. His plan worked perfectly.

>>380253513
If you get it on steam you don't need to open it through the library option too. You can go to FFXIV's Home folder to open it even when you're not signed in on steam. So the whole hate for it is a meme besides always needing to buy expansions from steams store, another non issue I guess.

>>380254035
>its not like we're attacking Garlemald
considering how they own Ala Mhigo...
yeah. It kind of is.

>>380253513
Personally, I dislike the lack of options of where to buy expansions the most. Second is having to use steam to play it, which can be annoying at times, especially when you can easily window the game and any benefits of steam go out the window. Lastly is if you ever somehow check the game data it freaks out and deletes everything from 2.2 and makes you redownload half the game or more again from the launcher. Sure that rarely happens, but when it does it's stupid as fuck.

>>380254224
perhaps I phrased that poorly
its not like we're attacking their big boy main base capital city or anything

>>380254238
You don't actually need to use steam to run the game

>>380253513
For the same reason WHM is bad, you parrot and shitpost like a mindless sheep

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>>380251253

>AST keeps giving me balances because I'm 2nd on the enmity list
>I'm a WAR

>>380254238
just use the xiv launcher exe in the steam folder, doesnt load the overlay and doesnt need steam either

>>380254332
They said they had that planned for 5.0 expansion. They talked about fighting Doomtrain in the Garlemald capital city

>>380253882
>>380254117
Shitposting aside, most games I bought on Steam don't demand I buy add-ons through Steam later. It's not very well thought out between SE and Valve in terms of customer relations.

Do I boost DRK or AST

How is AST solo levelling?

>>380253847
>>380254035
>>380254224
It's quite possible the alliance DOES get rekt in the initial attack like the trailer suggests and that's why you go to open another front in Doma to draw their forces away

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>>380243713
>all these serious replies

You guys are the most gullible fags on the entirety of 4chan, congratulations.

>>380254540
AST does the least damage of the healers so questing with it is kind of miserable.

>>380244531
Nice reddit spacing.

>>380254540
Dungeon queues with healers and tanks are instintanious.

If you feel like you need to boost that class instead of playing content with them, you need to stop and seriously ask yourself if you enjoy playing that class if you desire so much to avoid playing that class.

>>380243713
It's time to stop posting.

>>380254695
its literally a post copied wholesale from reddit, so yeah.

>>380254745
it's time to stop replying to copypasta

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>>380243713
>getting all those (you)'s for a copypaste

>>380254705
Not him but grind is grind dude. Is running 30 potd or 20 dungeons really a testement whether you can enjoy the class or not

Also you're assuming that it's his first class

>>380254705
Lmao Ill boost thank you very much. It is not my first class

>>380255065
>literally playing to NOT play as a class
>thinks he'll like to play the class

rly makes u think

>>380253981
It can go both ways, perhaps Alexander had to suck all of the land's aether in order to save it. Him and his passengers being thrown to the past is merely the only way he had to siphon such a huge amount of aether.

It's not impossible that an increase in aether to the point it ends up killing everything, perhaps it's related to Hydaelyn growing uncontested.

>>380246461
Are you really pulling the customization card when races in SWTOR are literally just different-skinned humans with some extra facial features tacked on?

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>nintendo e3 and live letter today

English or Japanese voice acting?

>>380255343
The english one is cringey as fuck with tons of complete amateurs whereas the japanese one features seasoned veterans, plus it's the original.

Really hard choice.

>>380255343
english

>>380255303
>live letter today
Which hour?

>>380251106
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8

>>380255475
Japanese voice acting is just as cringy, the only difference is that you don't know what they're saying so you don't realize how bad it is

>>380255570
Only 5 more.

>>380255343
Japanese. English went to shit in HW and it wasn't very good to begin with. Set it to English only in Baelsars wall for maximum memeing

>>380255343
Excuse you but I play a japanese MMORPG with english voice because I am not a weeb.

>>380255661
nice

>>380255650
Not really, no. There's some cheesy lines, but it's generally better.

>>380254604
Scholar has lower sustain. It just does more in actual content because dots + higher cleric uptime

>>380255772
It's not about being a weeb, you can't understand what they're saying. They might as well just be random grunts and hooting and you wouldn't know the difference

>>380255343
The english voice acting has a lot of poor and inexperienced voice actors until you get to Heavensward, but unlike the japanese voiceover listening to it for more than five minutes doesn't make me want to hang myself.

I can't understand how people can listen to that gobbledygook, it's like jamming white-hot nails into your ears.

>>380255650
This argument is such a huge meme, pathetic. I bet you watch Tarkovsys movies in english dub too you colossal faggot pleb.

>>380255570
http://na.square-enix.com/us/blog/square-enix-presents-e3-2017-program-schedule

>>380255661
No. Live letter starts 4:30pm PDT

>>380255570
It's in 23 hours. 4:30 pst.

>>380255798
Oh you mean something that won't matter in 2 days?
Better meld that piety if you want to spam Broil2, lad

>>380255798
Scholar has a completely free 300 potency heal cast on him every few seconds when he's out solo and infinite mana from Aetherflow. He has endless sustain

How do you pronounce Khloe?

will new classes be available during early access?

>>380255650
People this stupid actually exist, or autistic, either one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T_TLBZxY4U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Uge0DljYA

vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q-QtjGRv54

>>380255904
My man, are you on drugs?

>>380256083
Yes, nearly everything will be.

>>380256102
Wow, I don't remember these scenes from the videogame Final Fantasy XIV, which is what we were talking about.

>>380256083
Yes you dummy
You preorder to play earlier

>>380255895
Ok, I'll take a nap then.

>>380255650
If you dont understand it then how do you know it cringy?

>>380256053
kay-loee

>>380246461
>if you go up to even 75ms, good luck
wew lad. Guarantee you I parsed better at 120ms than you do at 30.

>>380256270
How do you know it's not?

>>380255883
Shh anon, it makes him feel superior for enjoying shitty dubs of foreign media because the "elitists" are the only ones who use original languages (even though the reality is that the majority only use dubs because it's default or they are literally too lazy to read)

>>380256002
>piety
i have news

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Looks like the Stormblood PSN preorder theme goes live at midnight EST tonight

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A reminder

>>380256494
Because I speak Japanese, that is irrelevant though because I'm not the one making a claim here, you are. But since your argument was just a nuh uh I am guessing you don't actually have a real argument and are just parroting a common pleb excuse for not using original audio like the kind of retards that complain there is no dub for classic foreign movies

>>380256209
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEsKncw1u7A
vs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBEvWWdKOBA

I know this is bait I'm replying too, but I've listened to the same people argue that they can't hear the differences in voice acting. Seriously, so I can't listen to Ave Maria and not be able to tell if she sings well or conveys emotion well? If you literally can't tell the difference in acting then you should immediately kill yourselves.

Listen to that pipe women in both scenes, listen to the Okami dialogue. Seriously maybe open your ears

>>380255904
Starts in 11 hours.

1:30am CEST
0:30am BST
4:30pm PDT

>>380256750
Am I to infer from this that weakness no longer invokes a HP debuff?

>>380256791
They are retarded normies who never watched a foreign film in their life or got really invested in music, just ignore them.

>>380256750
Maybe that's why tank damage doesn't scale off vit anymore. Its the only stat no longer affected by weakness.

>>380255343

German

>>380256907
That's goddamn right

>>380256750
It just lowers stats right? You're still gonna be a useless sack of shit since DPS is all that matters in this game

>>380256907
Which means the 320 ilv stuff leak is real

>>380243326
Just play through the story normally.

Word of warning though. Don't be mad when you get to the lv. 50 story dungeons and see people speedrunning it. Just run through the dungeon with them and watch the cutscenes in the book at an inn.

Trust me, it makes the experience much better.

>>380256962
The german one is even worse than the english dub but they have the best localized text and subs besides the japanese original, I'll give you that.

>>380255650
>>380256494

You are retarded.

>>380253847
Yeah but last time they didn't have Japanese pride to allow for the Nippon Banzai Go Big or Go Home Suicide Tactics. Fight or Die anon!

>>380243713
literally no one fucking cares. Just play the game and enjoy yourself. If someone asks just tell them the truth.

What're they gonna do, kick you out of the party/fc? You'll be fine dude, don't worry.

>>380256750
Perhaps that fear also have a HP down effect?

But to be fair, in some fights, using raise was useless, the hit to HP made it so that you were guaranteed to be killed by any strong AoE if you didn't have Stoneskin and since that spell disappeared they had to do something about it but yeah, it's casualizing that part of the game.

>>380257364
No, if you watch the full video it's pretty clear.

>>380256791
Replying to my own post.

I'm not saying the all of the dub is inferior to the Japanese one, but there's A DIFFERENCE. I seriously like the two who did the ending lines for the English dub. They have really good chops, it's overacting, but it's not really cringey.

>>380254446
I'd say that seems a bit early, but we know FF17 Online will be revealed by then.

>Diversion > B3 > Enochian > T3 > B4 > F3 > Triple > F4 > Lucid > F4 > Sharp > F4 > Ley > F4 > F1 > Convert > F4 > F4 > F4 > F3 > Potion > F4 > F4 > F4 > Swift > Foul

You do have your new opener memorized. Right?

>>380256750
I hope the "you don't lose skills when synced" thing is true.

>>380257730
That would be dumb. Potency doesn't sync so there's no way it would be balanced.

>>380257662
no
people will have it figured out before I hit 70. I'm not learning a rotation around numbers that might change.

>>380257730
I could see it happening for fates. But there's no way they would allow that shit in dungeons.

>>380257605
>we know FF17 Online will be revealed by then.
Expect it by the time of 6.0 at the earliest.

How long left? Five hours?

>>380257730
i can almost guarantee it isn't