STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES THAT AREN'T EVEN OUT YET!

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Your favourite game is shit Diavolo.

>>380239964
If people can pre-orfer game, they can pre-shittalk the game too

>JoJo fags

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>>380241843
>mfw a genuinely good manga can no longer be discussed properly because of retarded bandwagoning anime memers bringing it up constantly and at unwelcome times
End my life anon.

>>380243012
ora ora funneh koichi pose haha! x)

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>>380243249
STOP

Fuck off

Next you'll be asking me not to complain about video games I've never played

I WANT A JOJO FIGHTING GAME BY ARCSYS

FUCK DRAGONBALL

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>>380239964

How does King Crimson work?

>>380244237
He can see 10 seconds into the future. He can also 'erase' up to 10 seconds of time. Basically for up to 10 seconds everything but Diavolo stops existing. After those 10 seconds are up, things continue as per the future he saw before erasing. To everyone else, time jumps forward inexplicably and they suffer the results of what King Crimson predicted while Diavolo doesn't, because in erased time he got to move however he wanted instead of what fate decided. So if you got punched but it was erased, you'd go from standing up to lying on the floor with a sore face in an instant with no idea how it happened. If Diavolo was fated to be punched and it was erased, he'd be perfectly fine. That's it.

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>>380245453
wow nice this is the best explanation i've read

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>>380245453

But how does he choose to physically interact with objects/events in deleted time or simply have them pass through himself like during the segments with Nero and Narancia?

>>380245679
I like to think of it as more of he fast forwards time by 10 seconds, but already seen the 10 seconds before hand so he automatically knows how to dodge or react to everything that happens in those 10 seconds.

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>>380244049
yes

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>>380245679
>>380244237

>>380245679
The only time he actually interacts with things is with the blood trick. As for Narancia, that was when he was possessing Trish and happened in an instant. He erased time to confuse them, then threw Narancia onto the grate and popped back into Trish/Mista's body.

With the fight against Risotto, the things he sees in erased time aren't actually those things since they don't actually exist during that period, they're phantoms showing what they were fated to do in that time. So the bullets going through him weren't actually the bullets but a representation of them. He erased time before the bullets hit him, then continued it when they were past him so they WOULD hit Risotto.

The only time he actually interacts with something is when he throws blood in Polnareff and Giorno's phantom faces in the final battle.

>>380246110
According to the manga the time literally IS erased though.

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>>380246110

But he doesn't need to. The event within space-time would be deleted along with all the time in-between also.

The disparity of information surrounding King Crimson is that we see Diavolo's Stand break it's own rules by physically interacting with objects within deleted space-time. Which is why this fucking thing still makes no sense even now over a decade later.

>>380246462
this is the best gif for explaining KC

>>380246357
Is that tattoos or a weird-ass fishnet type shirt?

>>380246775
Also the team who did the first translation misunderstood KC and kept insisting that their explanation was right despite people who could read Nip correcting them. Their explanation is still accepted by a ton of people despite being wrong.

>>380246948
it's like a fishnet shirt thing

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>>380246462

Except Diavolo kills Narancia instantly with King Crimson's power near the end without anyone noticing at all, pretty much implying it happens IN King Crimson's effect.

>>380247096
Time doesn't read well in manga.

He could've just been fast, because stands

>>380246948
Fishnet. Diavolo is weird and dresses up his boytoy body double he shares a body with like a slut before going outside the house.

>>380247143
fast after KC time erase, I mean

>>380239964
Considering the fact that I haven't played a video game in years, what difference does it make to wait for their release before complaining?

literally nobody has pointed out

>tumblr filename

/v/ is dead. it's redditor central now.

>>380246775
>>380247059
Hasn't Araki admitted he hasn't entirely figured out how it works himself.

How does Soft and Wet work?

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>>380247059

>Their explanation is still accepted by a ton of people despite being wrong.

It's been twelve years. Are you fucking serious?

>>380247303
>Considering the fact that I haven't played a video game in years,
Why are you even here?

>>380247360
No?

>>380247096
Nigga, it's Jojo. Crazy shit happens in the blink of an eye, or when someone it just looking away, that would take a lot of time to occur, but happens without the characters notice.

The events surrounding King Crimson and Heavy Weather are exactly the kind of stuff that normally happens in Jojo, but it's always those things that people point out and go "Now come on, that just doesn't make sense."

>>380247371
He gives em the bubble bubble bubble pop and it pops their bubble pop pop bubble bubble pop.

>>380243012
>bandwagoning anime memers

otherwise known as speedwagoning

>>380247373
Completely. At least the retranslation only has 12 chapters left so new readers won't have to go through this shit. It's still confusing but it's correct at least.

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>>380244237
>>380245453
>>380245679
>>380246462
>>380246775

>this is all actually real

Holy shit, i didn't think Jojo's Bizarre Adventure went this in-depth with it's character powers later. I only just finished Battle Tendency.

>>380247787
It's not really that in-depth, thanks to bad translations and stubborn idiots, King Crimson's power has just been highly contested, which has caused people to literally write whole essays trying to explain it, many times they just explain their own head cannon and are wrong, when the reality is the power is just "Erases time"

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>>380247360

>The author himself doesn't know how his characters powers work

>>380247371
He can steal physical phenomena with his bubbles. So stuff like friction, sound etc, as well as stuff like oxygen. He can use them to carry stuff too, and they have mild explosive power inherited from Killer Queen too.

>>380247096
>>380247143
>>380247417

Niggas you dumb. The whole point of KC and those arcs is that "fate" is set to everyone but Diavolo. Giorno's body (with Narancia's soul) was fated to be impaled on those fences. KC simply erased time directly into the final action.

Same thing with "How did Diavolo steal Trish from Bruno and escaped the elevator shaft in 0.5 seconds?"

Because he would steal Trish and run down the the elevator shaft anyway, he simply skipped directly to the end.

>>380247787
King Crimson is as complicated as it gets, and it's not THAT complicated when you grasp it it's just been translated poorly for years. This was written like 20 years ago though, so it's hardly modern. Besides D4C and Made in Heaven (both the Stands of main villains) the powers aren't anywhere near as complicated as KC.

>>380247787
There aren't really any indepth powers in the series, just specific powers being used in numerous ways.

YEAH STOP GENERATING NEGATIVE PRESS FOR OUR GA- I MEAN THOSE GAMES!

>>380248268
Made in Heaven isn't that complicated aside from the universe-ending shit, but even then it's not THAT hard to understand.

>>380248265
Oh god, this bullshit again. Can you please fuck off back to /a/ with this head canon explanation.

>>380248268
>Made in Heave: Controls the gravity of the universe to speed up time for everything except living creatures
>D4C: Trapping people and things between two objects pushes it into another dimension. If two or the same thing meets in another dimension, they fuse and explode.
It's not at all complicated.

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Can Tusk Act 4 beat Gold Experience Requiem's ultimate defense?

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>>380248265

I thought King Crimson was Cause and Effect?

King Crimson removes the "Cause" (a punch or a bullet) leaving only the "Effect" from the missing event in space-time in it's wake?

>>380246462
This is correct except he can hurt others.

>>380248670
He can't.

>>380248370
I agree, it's just that most people ignore all the details then go 'HURR IT RETCON ED WHOLE SERIES WAHH' when if you pay attention all it does is change 6 since Pucci never existed, so Jolyne never went to prison and Jotaro was more chill during Parts 4 and 5.

>>380247787
Part 2 is best part, tho.

>>380248596
After extensive discussion, I have concluded that no, Act 4 wouldn't beat GER, since GER can render the initial shot from GER back to 'zero' and thus the infinite golden rotation would have no way of reaching it's target.

>>380248575
>D4C: Trapping people and things between two objects pushes it into another dimension. If two or the same thing meets in another dimension, they fuse and explode.
Explain how everyone shot Johnny at the same time. I've read that part 10 times and I've concluded that it just doesn't make sense given his power. Fucking Araki.

>>380248606
No that's what the old translations said, it's been corrected now since competent people retranslated it. See >>380245453

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>>380248798
Damn, so Giorno still has the strongest stand.

>>380248670
>can hurt others
>exact he can't and doesn't
Every time he waits for the skip to end before going for the blow or splashing blood. If he could attack, he would easily do it.

>>380248750
Nah. It's good but later Parts did everything better. 8 is fucking bonkers atm and is really well written.

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>>380248596
no.

>>380248817
Dimensional switcheroo. Everyone was hunting for the president, and each other. All Funny did was move some people around, hide some things just out of sight, and slip between dimensions, until everyone thought they were shooting him, but in reality, they were shooting Johnny. It's not an issue with t he power itself, it's just Araki's really stilted story telling method for that scene

>>380248817
Araki sees things in different ways to normal human beings. I'm not even joking, he is off his fucking tits.

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>>380248907

So anything that is supposed to happen is just considered "fate" now and Diavolo is essentially cheating "fate" constantly with his powers thematically? That's strange.

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>>380249103
That's what makes JJBA so enjoyable, Araki makes up his own shit as he writes and we're all just along for the ride.

>>380248265
>Because he would steal Trish and run down the the elevator shaft anyway, he simply skipped directly to the end.

So he forced his way into the elevator, cut off Trish's arm, carried Trish out of the elevator and went to the bottom floor in the elevator all in 10 seconds? And did all this without Bruno moving from his position? I call bullshit.

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>>380249103

based LSD tripping manga author

>>380248962
Yeah there's a reason he's never tried anything like Requiem since. The closest thing was Made in Heaven and that required a lot more planning (23 years rather than 24 hours notice) for something that actually had weaknesses.

>>380249061
>but in reality, they were shooting Johnny
Nope. It's mentioned that bullet holes indicate he was shot by a single person, yet the pages show all three shotting him.

>>380247378
To complain, obviously.

>>380249310
>all in 10 seconds?
KC has very little range, in terms of how far it can move away from Diavolo. Short range stands are faster and stronger than other stands by a decent margin.

>>380249247
He's still a pretty smart dude, though, so it's still written pretty solidly at times and most of the "asspulls" in later parts are just characters being absurdly smart.

Like Jolyne giving Emporio Weather Report's Stand disc and him later using it in a way that put Made in Heaven's powers against Pucci. Emporio didn't just pull that idea out of his ass, he's just genuinely smart as he couldn't do anything in his life apart from read books.

>>380239964
NO SOME OF US HAVE A FULLY FORMED PREFRONTAL CORTEX AND ARE CAPABLE OF HIGHER THOUGHT, THUS, HOUSE THE ABILITY TO INTERPRET STIMULI AND INFER BASED ON THAT INPUT

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>>380249373

>that image
>this thread

okay picking up jojo as of now

>>380249226
Yes that's what he's doing. The theme of Part 5 was the inevitability of fate and death; Diavolo had the ability to cheat fate and he used it for his own gain at the expense for others. Bruno and his gang were all born into shit circumstances with no way out and were forced to do evil things to survive because of men like Diavolo. In the end, although dying in gang conflict was inevitable, they died for a just cause and got Giorno into power to help him undo Diavolo's evils. Instead of wasting their life trying to stop the unstoppable, they accepted fate and did the best they could while Diavolo ran from it and used other people to climb higher while suffering none of the drawbacks.

>>380249886
It gets way worse than that. Someone turns the entire population of Florida into snails through subliminal messaging because the KKK killed his girlfriend

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>>380249809
Best thing about Araki is that even when putting silly, ridiculous shit in his story he still manages for it to make sense, taking his own story seriously even when having comedic moments. One of the main reasons I still love JJBA, he even manages to make Jotaro not eclipse over everyone else with his op as fuck time stop.

>>380249886
a cowboy needs to stick his fingers in the nose of a french guy, because a manga told him to.

>>380250048
Who was also his long lost sister, and their brother is a priest in training who is best friends with a vampire.

>>380248606
that is the bad translation, to fully understand it you need to realise how his substand and fate tie into the ability

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>>380249886

>>380250249
And the characters are all likeable despite not always having a good amount of characterization.

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>>380249886
You ain't seen nothing yet

>>380250486
>not "I made that bus look like my father"

>>380239964
>Why are you shitting on my plate.jpg

>>380247614
Underrated post

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>>380249886
dont let people dissuade you. its amazing

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>>380249937
>mob gangster doesn't obey the laws
Hmmm... who would've thought?

Diavolo did little wrong and certainly didn't deserve his fate. He acted like a regular mob boss, controlling business, assassinating people and selling drugs ect. If people join a crime syndicate they should expect laws to be broken within the gang.

>muh drugs
>muh children
Fuck you Giorno, become a cop or something. Such a weak motivation. Diavolo only had the gang gunning for his head simply because they didn't like his business practices and decided on murdering him because of it. He didn't force people to buy drugs, he sold them because they were in demand. A fate worse than death is undeserving.

>>380249026
Best Jojo, best villains, story is focused, short and sweet. Only actual minus of Part 2 is that author decided not to kill Jojo (still don't know how he survived).
Didn't like Part 8 that much, we'll see how it ends. Its halfway now, as i understand?

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ORE WA STANDO DA

>>380250048

Even better, there's some heavy Romeo and Juliet with a touch of incest.

>>380249886

Black Twin Brother gets kidnapped at the hospital when he's a child, raised by an interacial couple, falls in love with a girl,
which turns out to be his sister. His twin brother (now a priest) discover all this, hires thugs to lynch his brother so he stops dating his own sister.

The thug group are actually members of the KKK, and they lynch his ass and left him hanging. His gf (sister) desperate with the situation throws herself off a cliff, but surprise,
he survived the hanging and sees his dead GF.

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>>380250486
>>380250250
>>380250048

What the fuck am i reading

This is all legit?

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>>380250661
>not the entirety of this fat fucking alpha's arc

>>380250974
Look up Jojo out of context in google.

>>380250257
>brother is a priest
Gay priest.

>>380250974
A crippled jockey (don't ask how he gets on the horse) has to find the parts of Jesus Christ's corpse around America and keep them from the president so he can walk again

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>>380250831
the manga has too many pricless panels

>>380251016
>that guy got to bang that man's daughter twice
its not fair

maybe if people open with Part 8 jojo we wouldn't have pleb anime posters

So let's get this out of the way once and for all.

Was Pucci black?

>>380250863
The writing is pretty bad. Joseph is the only protagonist who does anything, and the villains are pretty standard with Wham being the one who sticks out the most. He should've been the main villain and not Kars.

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>>380239964

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>>380251159
Maybe.

>>380250974
also Dio makes Hot dogs in part 1

>>380251276
I really hope Joubin's wife is the main villain.

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Explain this, DIOfags.

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>>380251386
I thought NotJolyne is the main villain.

>>380251386
>>380251442

Whoops, meant mom.

I keep confusing her as his wife.

Not!Jolyne? You mean the ski lift guy?

>>380251178
I don't think so. He's pretty tanned whenever Araki draws/colours him, but not black. Italian people can get pretty tanned, but I don't think they can get fully black like how Pucci is coloured in the official coloured scans.

It also makes no sense for Pucci to be black if the KKK take orders from him and kill Wes and their sister because of reasons other than Pucci being black.

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>>380251485
His mom came out of jail bro, she's basically the Jolyne of this universe. Her hairstyle is even similar so expect some thread stand powers coming from her.

>>380251178
He's Sicilian. His parents and fraternal twin are all white but are said to have Italian ancestry. There are a lot of dark skinned Italians, though they're dark skin isn't a result of African heritage if that's what you're asking. He's black but not African black.

>>380251240
Well, maybe i just like it the most, Part 7 was pretty awesome too.

>>380251542
Wes wasn't even black either, one of his adopted parents were and the KKK got it wrong. He was a pure Italian.

>>380251606
>expect some thread stand powers coming from her
But she already used her stand and it had absolutely nothing to do with threads.

>>380251542

The KKK lynched Wes because of Interacial marriage, not because he was black himself.

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>>380250831

I just sat for three minutes reading all of this in disbelief. What in the actual fuckery...

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>>380248962
yeah its kind of a running subtext in Vento that GioGio having the compassion and bravery of a Joestar but the ruthlessness and ambition of Dio results in an apex warrior of limitless potential, what Dio thought he would accomplish by stealing Jonathan's body

>>380251709
Yeah, and for them to kill him for that and not Pucci being black or whatever is more evidence that he isn't black. I wasn't trying to say that Wes is black.

>>380251752
95% of it makes perfect sense in context.

>>380251731
She's Pucci's sister which implies Pucci is also black. It loops back to why the fuck the KKK would work for a black man.

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>>380251715
Oh crap I must've forgotten it then, nevermind. The fact that the chapters are monthly kinda fucks me up.
>>380251783
And he ends up just being a mob boss, with Jotaro leaving him the fuck alone. Its amazing how Araki ends things with his protagonists sometimes, especially when only like 3 of the Joestars in total got "good" endings.

>>380251606
her only similarity to Jolyne is that she came from prison

her stand is the playing cards - she can hide anything in it

I said she's probably the villain in what she did and how she influenced Joubin

with that said, we've never seen Joubin's wife right?

>>380239964
...it's complicated

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This is what happens when JoJo isnt translated properly

enjoy

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>>380252037
I don't believe so, it might be possible that she's the one producing the Rokaka and might be the Kars Rockhuman unless I'm forgetting someone.

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>>380252028
Yeah she has a deck of cards and she can hide items inside the cards or some bullshit like that.

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>>380252037
She's been in the background a couple of chapters but hasn't had any dialogue yet. She probably had a bigger role originally since Tsurugi was 2 in the beginning but Araki retconned his age to 9 before his first speaking appearance so he could be more active in the plot, and she was probably going to act on his behalf when he was intended to be 2. She still has character bios in the new volumes coming out so Araki clearly has SOMETHING planned for her.

>>380251904

Nigga that's not what happens thou. First of all, there's no "hard" evidence for Pucci or Wes skin color, specially since they're Sicilian, meaning darker skin tones than normal.

Secondly, he was a priest above everything, even the KKK still to this day interact with priests, regardless of their skin color.

Third of all, again, they didn't lynch Wes because he was Black or Not, they lynched bcause the woman who had kidnapped him and passed as his mother was black, and his supposedly father was white. Ergo, he was in the view of the KKK, a interacial product.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pESEJNy_gYQ

Link related.

>>380252365
It's kinda like Soft and Wet now that I think about it, just with cards and not bubbles.

>>380252420
I thought the father was black and the mother white?

>>380252404
>>380252365
>>380252234
Interesting trivia; the Higashikata women + Tsurugi are named after the Japanese names for the suits from a deck of cards.

Kaato = Card
Hato = Heart
Daiya = Diamond
Mitsuba = Clubs
Tsurugi = Swords (the Nips use Swords instead of Spades, and it's also a pun since he's a boy raised as a girl so he has a 'sword', which is also probably why he loves puns and is a horny little bastard)

>Kaato
>villain

Name a single thing she did wrong.

>>380253019
Get caught.

>>380252546

Could be, I don't remember. Since Wes was kidnapped as a baby, I just thought it must've been a black mother, because you know, stealing and nigger.

>>380252234
well, we already got our Wammu and he's a mix of tower guy, the chef dude, and rohan

>>380252404
far right one right?

also I'm pissed in EoE's rep

>we got worst Jojolion character
>rather than femjotaro

>>380252861
I learned the spade - blade from 0w0

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>>380243012
Nah, it's mostly ok, as long as you talk about anything past part four, or refer to everything as their original, not just-barely-not-copyright-infringing names it will be like you're speaking in foreign tongues to them.

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>>380251407

>>380253059
Yep, that's her. She's appeared like 4 times total, but Araki keeps listing her in bios and stuff so he must have some sort of plan for her.

>>380253171
I want to fuck Evil? and Kyo

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>>380253171
oh god that Atum, I'm dying

Is JoJo really popular among normalfags now? The only thing that really irks me are the ZA WARUDO XD comments on youtube videos but that's been around since the 2000s

>>380253059
speaking of femjotaro, I'm surprised norisuke didn't do background check on kyo, you'd think he'd know she's holly's daughter

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>>380253171
>Trish tuna
oh fuck my sides

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I completely lost track, who was fem-Kakyoin again? Kira's ex-girlfriend?

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>>380239964
You've done it again.

>>380253856
that's Karera who is based on Yukako, their stands are even similar (Love Love Deluxe -> Love Deluxe)

>>380251709
Just so you know, historically Italians and other immigrants were also targeted by KKK.

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>>380253171

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>>380254083
but they were in Italy and were probably Italian themselves.

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Please, don't pretend Jojo's powers are complex and sensible. Half the time they don't make sense and the other half they aren't working as they should. Jojo has always been about style over substance, you aren't supposed to think about them at all.

>>380253651
She used a false identity and he didn't really have a reason to suspect anyone at that point.

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>>380253856
She was Karera, Josefumi's stalker. Josefumi and Kira died trying to steal a Rokakaka from Big Dick Damo and parts of their corpses were exchanged by the Wall Eyes to create Josuke. Karera hated Kira because he used her as a decoy to escape Damo's boat trap, though it still cost him his life.

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>>380255245
thanks for the quick rundown

>>380253171
>burn victim harry potter
kek

>>380252420
It's a stereotype that all Sicilians have darker skin tones than normal. In reality they are quite varied with their skin tone going from tanned to very fair.

>>380250831
>A rat? Like Mickey Mouse?!
everytime

>>380244237
He has the ability to see fate, and avoid it while leaving it intact for others. It's not that hard to understand.