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This is not Monster Hunter

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Has anyone here actually ever played any MH and watched the trailer? The trailer makes it look like the whole focus of this game is on environments (which people already criticize about 4 and X) and luring the monster into a precast trap (a tree for a pitfall-esque trap, under a rock to shoot the rock and have it crushed, clumps of branches in the water to make it slip).

You can always just jump onto the monster, even when it's in a trap. He did not stand in front of it and try to time his attacks properly to hit the wobbling head, no, he just jumps onto it and mashes buttons. Almost everything in the trailer seemed scripted, like a long corridor the monster is chasing you through.

It's not Monster Hunter. It could be a fun casual game but it shouldn't even be called Monster Hunter. There is no winner here. Quit the console warrior shit.
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Say goodbye to this for the next years. Maybe forever.

Tip: casuals who defend Worlds will have no idea what's going on in this webm and will shit on it.
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You've gotten the EXACT same game for 14 years. The EXACT SAME FUCKING GAME except it's only gotten worse with each iteration. How many more games on 240p screens featuring the SAME monsters and maps from over a DECADE do you need? And now all of a sudden one spin-off game by the same devs is a problem. Go stare at your tiny 3DS screen and use Super Saiyan Hunter Brave Arts to kill Deviantart monsters.
t. 2000 Hours Played in FU fag
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>>380227483
>same thread
>same picture
600 replies, 80 images not shown
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>>380227654
Tip: Worlds will become the new standard for MH
Say goodbye to your PS2 jank forever
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>>380227483

>>380227893
You could at least linked it>>380215785
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>>380227707
False cause fallacy. There is no relation between handheld specs and bad graphics and the core gameplay. They could just make a Monster Hunter that plays like 4 with better graphics and presentation but without scripted action, precast traps that seem to be the focus of the game, unreliable, pseudo-realistic animations and open world.
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>>380227654
your ancient gameplay is garbage

jewcom is killing off this pathetic excuse and finally embracing actual gameplay
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>>380227990
>"DEATH TO ALL GOOD GAMES!"

Too bad. New games are mostly shit and PS2 had some amazing stuff.
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>Remakes his thread immediatly after getting BTFO in his previous one

You're pretty pathetic OP
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Literally made by the same team as Monster Hunter 1/2/3/4

http://www.capcom-unity.com/dubindoh/blog/2017/06/12/e3-2017-announcing-monster-hunter-world-releasing-globally-early-2018

> so join me, producer Ryozo Tsujimoto and directors Kaname Fujioka and Yuya Tokuda for a live chat about this new project straight from E3

Post YFW the GOAT Monster Hunter game won't be on Nintendo systems
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>>380228160
Yeah, we've all seen this in this trailer. Jump onto monster, steer it against a tree, press button for magic hookshot, mash attack button while sitting on monster instead of timing anything or doing anything that requires precision.

And of course hiding in high grass.

Amazing. So amazing.

Thank you for ruining another franchise, casuals.
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>>380228270
>things that never happened

>>380228290
And Wii Music was made by the same guy who gave us Mario Bros. 3. Shit happens, especially at Capcom. It's like everyone there has this dangerous inclination and tendency toward turning good franchises into casualized trash. Well, they like money and for some reason believe that's the way, I suppose. Fans should show them it's not.
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https://pastebin.com/TRFRGFn1

pastebin with all the latest info, with sources>>380227483
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>>380227654
Say goodbye to clearn, even environments without annoying shit and just a fair, unscripted one versus one face-off with reliable animations and tight gameplay without climbing all the time and using magic.
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>>380227483
THIS IS NOT MONSTER HUNTER STOP ENJOYING IT AAAAAAAAH
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>>380227654
Well said fellow Nintenbro, I will be enjoying the REAL Monster Hunter on my Nintendo Switchâ„¢ this fall. Nintendomination!
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>>380228290
DELET
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Why is everyone on /v/ such a miserable cunt ? It's a new MH game finally on a decent console and all you faggots are tearing it to shreds based on one trailer

Bet most of you fucktards will eat it up on launch regardless
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>>380227654
They removed the GP into super/ultra anyways
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>was going to buy a Switch just for MonHun
Who else /dodged a bullet/ here?
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>>380228940
Why can't brainlets into arguments and syllogism?

>playing since MH1
>advocating not buying World which is a shit game
>also hating X and advocating not buying the Switch port because it's a shit game that pushes the franchise in the wrong direction
>MUST BE NINTENDO!

Jesus.
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>>380228919
>tight gameplay
It's on a fucking handheld. It's impossible to play a game that requires any modicum of skill or fidelity on the 3DS.
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Monster hunter was casualised after the PSP installments, this looks no worse than all the anime jumping shit in 4, which was still a great game.
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>>380228924
I don't even get it. If it was PS4 only, then I could understand I guess, but it's coming to Xbone and PC. A switch owner is guaranteed to own one of those platforms right?
It's not possible to miss out on this game unless you hate video games.
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>>380229184
You can still get MHXX and future MHs with the classic gameplay
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>>380228290
NOOOOOOOOOOO IT WAS SUPPOOSED TO BE SHIT!!!!!

QUICK START A PETITION TO PORT THIS TO SWITCH RIGHT NOW
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>>380229242
Yeah, that guy in the webm you quoted is probably using hacks that make the game play itself.
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>>380229184
You pay attention to the thread at all? The Switch is the only current system getting a real Monster Hunter, and not this spin-off trash
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>>380227483
calm your tits joe, they just showed one scripted bossfight out of of how many hundreds ? lets just hope that the engine doesn't take it's toll on the size of the map.
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UH OH
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>>380229184
I mentally prepared myself to buy a switch, but dont need to anymore
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>>380229305
Damn, exactly. It's almost like someone who criticizes this game actually does it because he thinks there is something to critize about it (maybe the things pointed out in the OP) and it's not a console warrior drama?

Those almonds are blazing.
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>>380229339
No, I'm saying it's fucking retarded to think your babby game is relevant at all when you basically play it on a leapfrog pad at 240p
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>>380229349
>Switch getting a 3DS port of a trash game
>everybody else is getting a new game made by the A team

el oh el
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>>380229378
>bossfight
youve never played a monsterhunter before have you?
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Why not enjoy both?
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>>380229536
I'd imagine most people in /v/ MH threads don't and just came here to find something to shitpost about.
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>>380229378
They showed scripted shit, resources wasted on open world and le epic, realistic traps, animations and Witcher detective abilities and magical hookshots.

They showed everything BUT the old, tight Monster Hunter gameplay (when they showed this in all the last trailers for 4 G, X and XX).
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>>380229565
Non-idorts know not the happiness of getting mhxx and mhw
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>>380229565
Because that's the wise man's move, and /v/ does not have a lot of those. Quick, smear shit on the walls so you fit in.
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>>380229565
because my toys are better than your toys so fuck off from my playground
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>>380229415
b-but muh cinematic movie tie-in QTE westernized spin-off...
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>>380229536
Most people shitposting in these threads haven't ,they're just participating in the latest consolewar since Sony's E3 conference had literally nothing to actually shitpost about.
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>>380229565
Not allowed to apparently. You have to either be a shit eating nintendofag manchild or a bowing literal sonybro like in the press conference.
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>>380229484
I hate handhelds just as much as you do but you must work on your debate skills. It also doesn't matter since they could make a real console game without pandeirng to the Skyrim audience which is what I was hoping for.

>>380229565
Because one is a piece of shit.
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I've been waiting to play MH with good performance, resolution, framerate, and (most importantly) controls. I am never going to play a skill intensive game on some fucking tiny ass screen with some little ass nub and mushy triggers.

And even better that it's the core team working on it and is the main focus. Might be time to jump in. Feels bad for Switchbros, but you should already own a PS4/PC anyways
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>>380228924
>>380229184
>>380229336
>>380229697
Can you underage console warriors just leave? This is about actual video games, not your brand loyality.
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>>380229565
>implying I was going to buy MH Weeb: The Electric Boogalo 2 even before today's announcement
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>>380227483
>normal dev team working on it
>base game elements still intact, such as potions, stamina, health, sharpness, etc
>almost everything said by people have been negative, baseless assumptions
>yet faggots like OP still need to convince themselves it's not going to be Monster Hunter through deeply-infested delusion and the desire to believe a shitty anonymous leak on a chinese knitting board
This shitshow has gotten too ridiculous and it's only been a day. Just full of people making baseless assumptions because, for whatever reason, they actively want the game to be bad.
Nothing that was shown in the five minute gameplay snippit was actively harmful or bad. And if what they say is true and the base game elements are still there, there's nothing to fear.
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How do you people even play these boring-ass games
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>>380229961
Go back to cod and reddit, retard
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>>380229835
No worries, you won't play a skill sensitive game. Just stay in the grass and don't forget to press the hookshot button for awesome.

Also lure the monster to that awesome trap through the corridor with the scripted animations for the monster.
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>>380229940
The hiding in the bush meme was pretty insulting to be honest.
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>>380227483
I feel like you probably started with tri so I don't care about your opinion. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Here listen to the grapple hook explained:
>old
Need to heal? go to a different map segment for safety.
>new
Need to heal? Grapple hook the fuck out of there

>The map being segmented safety net is being replaced by a grapple hook
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>>380227483

Listen, man, why even bother? /v/ isn't somewhere to discuss games, especially around E3. You know it's not a good looking Monster Hunter, I know it, tons of fans everywhere know it. But you're talking to a brick wall when you come here. People are only here to play the correct pre-programmed meme at the correct time, period. Game comes on on a different console? Post rage faces, NEVER EVER, etc. Make an argument for or against a game on some specific console? Shill, you're a shill, check out this sweet meme I learned from screencap threads. Nobody wants anything but to be part of the next epic lulz or whatever.

It's not fucking worth it. Just be comfortable with your own opinions. Speaking them here is pointless, and it has been for years. The game will probably fail in Japan, and Japan is their market. It's just a spinoff. Don't worry. It's no worse than that shitshow of a movie we're getting. And the good games of the series are never going away, nor is the community.

In before fucking "reddit spacing" or something. Bunch of faggots.
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>>380229961
By not giving a shit to the even more boring latest future cinematic shooters western developers shit out.
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>>380229961
autism + lack of skill to play a proper action game like NG or DMC or even Souls
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>>380227483
>this trailer looks like a trailer
WOWIE GEE YOU DON'T SAY
How about we just wait for a gameplay trailer judge it then
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>>380229940
>>base game elements still intact, such as potions, stamina, health, sharpness, etc
Yeah, this is what makes Monster Hunter great. When a game has this, no way it can still be a bad game.

Fuck, I hate casuals.

Stop investing time in video games, you don't understand them. Get swole and fuck sluts instead or something, that's also fun.
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>>380230041
>Scripted animations for the monster
So just like every other MH?
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>>380227483
>The trailer makes it look like the whole focus of this game is on environments
I'm sure a guy rolling around and smashing the slash button would've made for a great presentation
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>>380229961
Play more than 20 minutes of the game you fucking child
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>>380230017
actually I would probably play call of duty if I wanted to simulate the monster hunter experience

run around in a circle for 15 minutes looking for something to fight, then have a really boring, anticlimactic fight with it that really doesn't justify its grandiose presentation
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>>380227654
>GPing teo's big bang and roars

Neat. I just cart to them.
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>>380230051
Why? Literally why? You can sneak past little monsters. So fucking what? In any other game, do you know what you'd do if you didn't need their materials? Sprint right by them and pretend they didn't exist. Unless you're doing a "kill trash tinies" quest. Same fucking difference.
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>>380227483
I don't care, Nintendo not gonna get it is the only thing that matter
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>>380230075
It still is an unfair mobility buff if they don't update the old monster's moveset

I hope they do
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>>380230234
I feel that with the ground monsters
But the grapple will be great for the wyverns
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>>380230190
>Yeah, this is what makes Monster Hunter great. When a game has this, no way it can still be a bad game.
But that's true.
Monster Hunter 3 wasn't a bad game because swimming was stupid.
Monster Hunter Generations wasn't bad because of arts or styles.
Hell Frontier has its moments too.
And that's because the base formula ALWAYS remains intact no matter what.
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I'm going to give it a chance to woo me with actual gameplay. I thought 4 looked fucking awful after the trailers and it ended up being pretty good even if I still think mounting is stupid as fuck.
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>>380230041
>MH4
>You don't even have to hunt, spam IG and just wail on a defenceless monster for five minutes
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>>380230041
>skill sensitive game
>240p
>5 inch screen
>played with one nub and a mushy ass d-pad
>low framerate

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*breathes in*

HAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAH
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>>380230085
I mostly do it so people prove me wrong and I'm happy. Maybe I'm missing something, but there always was this looming tendency toward casualized shit gameplay, just look at the Monster Hunter 4 reveal trailer.

Capcom has lost it. Everyone knows it and Monster Hunter was like the only thing they had left. For some reason everyone trusts them now, though. It's always the same thing with casuals and open world games. First they hype them up and everyone buys this shit, later they complain. People probably also need 30 more Assassin's Creed games to finally stop buying and supporting this garbage.
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>>380230041
>No worries, you won't play a skill sensitive game. Just stay in the grass and don't forget to press the hookshot button for awesome.
This is what upsets me.
Monsters are chasing you? Just crouch in some grass and they all instantly lose sight of you.
Monster knocks you away? Just hook shot back onto it, don't even worry about dodging or positioning.
Monster has you cornered? Just hook shot up to the ceiling and you can't get hit!
It literally requires no skill. They're just get out of jail free cards with no disadvantages.
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>>380230085
Get out you fucking degenerate
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>>380230231

Case in point, /v/ is fucking shit. Whether he's serious or false flagging, it's pointless bullshit some sad loser posted between jerkoff sessions for a little giggle. It means nothing and adds nothing, just powering the always-spinning wheel of trash.
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I like how weeaboos pretend that MH isn't a horrible game that people only play because of EPIC LOOT. Normies have Destiny, PCfags have Diablo 3, weeaboos have MH.
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>>380230196
No, what people mean by scripted in this case is that you cannot even influence the animations at all. Like in that tunnel segment in the trailer. The monster is just chasing you through that tunnel system and you couldn't even fight in it, the game basically turns into Uncharted for a minute there. Or maybe half the fight, who knows?
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>>380230357
Imagine if they buff some monsters to counter the hook

>grapple a flying rathian
>rathian turns around and waits until you get close enough
>sends you flying away with a spinning tail attack
>you get sent flying away for what would be worth 1/4 of the map in the old game
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>this thread
>nintenbabbies on suicide watch
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>game is shown to have more of an ecosystem where monsters actually interact with each other in the world and interacting with the envronment and the environment matters
>stuff akin to the older cinematics they would make for the games
>but /v/ is too busy memeing about "muh casualization" that has yet to be seen to appreciate this
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>>380230508
Lot of assuming from one trailer there. We really don't know how the stealth or grappling hook are going to work in practice. Maybe there are limitations placed on them.
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>>380230646
People only play it because of the combat as far as I know. I've been playing it for like 13 years because the combat is so sick.
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>>380230228
Why? Because it's a pretend mechanic you moron that's why.

It's pretend to incorporate a stealth element to the game when in reality there is nothing there. This shit has been in a bunch of movie games recently and it's literally just a poorly concealed way of turning off the AI, there is no depth what so ever to it and it's borderline fucking insulting.

>Enemies go into an animation like they are searching and hunting for you when you literally just walked into a small bush in front of them

Get the fuck out of here.

>You can sneak past little monsters
>past little monsters

Now who is making the baseless assumptions?
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>>380230234
Honestly, I think this looks really fun.

If you actually consider what Monster Hunting would really be like, it would be something similar to what they showed in a Fantasy setting.

It's not like FU or 3U won't still have dedicated fanbases and you can still play them.

Monster Hunter was in desperate need of some new lifeblood, and not the anime shit that happened in 4 and X.

This is a guy who played the OG online.
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>>380230360
To many people 3 was bad because of swimming and 4 and X are bad because of styles, mounting, vertical environments etc.

No, potions and sharpening are not what makes Monster Hunter good.
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>>380230753
Pretty much. Stealth and exploration is not usually done well in the Monster Hunter franchise.
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>>380230491
This.
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>>380230646
But I play it because I like fighting giant monsters. Getting to use their bones to create giant swords is just a bonus.
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>>380230753
>>380230837
What's good about MH combat though? It's just kind of shit.
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>>380230491
That's still a false fallacy. Just because a handheld game is shit you don't have to buy a shit game on a console. They could just make a classic, polished, beautiful Monster Hunter game for a console and everyone who likes the series would be happy.

Not some Skyirm shit with hookshots.
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>>380230550

You get out, memespouting faggot.

>>380230692
>>nintenbabbies on suicide watch

More parroted bullshit. Did you get this straight from /pol/? Did saying it make you happy? Do you fit in now?
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>>380230824
>every recent MH game for the past few years is bad because I say so
Then why the fuck are you still here?
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>>380230491
pretty much
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>>380230720
If this thing is truly open world, I'm gonna be luring a brachydios and make videos on youtube called "Brachydios beating the shit out of everything"
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>>380230751
>Lot of assuming from one trailer there.
But all of that is shown in the trailer. Small monsters are actively chasing the player, they hide in grass, monsters lose sight. The new monster knocks the player into the air, but they just hook shot back onto it. At one point the monster gets close to the player, and they just hook shot across the area. It's all confirmed, it's in the trailer. I'm not really assuming anything, we all saw exactly how it is going to work in practice.
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>>380227483
>murder massive dragon monsters and skin them to make armor and weapons

sounds like monster hunter to me
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>>380230837
That's why I have no strong feelings about the trailer so far. I'll decide when I see combat and not this scripted shit. This felt like it was trying to emulate the opening cinematic of the first monhun.

>>380230939
Everything is weighty, both positioning and reflexes are important. Hit feel great, the monsters usually have interesting movesets, all the weapons feel diverse. It's just great. People jerk off souls combat but I think monhun is a better execution of a similar concept.
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>>380230798
>This mechanic that's in the game doesn't exist
Well since you've clearly played the game can you tell me all about the stealth that you say doesn't exist?
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>>380230939
It's just an autistic grindfest for weebs. Mechanical skill level is very low for an action game (hard to not be considering it is on handheld).
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>>380228919
Say goodbye to fun gameplay because of cool shit you could do, not everyone could do, people online hunting with you being amazed by how good you are and what you just did.

Say hello to Skyrim open worlds, scripted events and climbing a monster which requires no skill at all.
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>>380230753
>play it because of the combat
Oh yes and Destiny fans play it because of how polished the mechanics are. They all use that excuse. Addicted gamblers rarely realise they like the gambling itself, not the mechanics surrounding it.
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>>380231060
Hookshot might be a limited use item.
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>>380230798
>pretend mechanic
>pretend
>mechanic
IT LITERALLY DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE JUST RAN BY THEM WITHOUT ACKNOWLEDGING THEM ANYWAYS, YOU SPERG
I KNOW THIS, YOU KNOW THIS, WE ALL KNOW THIS, NOBODY ENGAGES IN THE TINIES UNLESS THEY NEED TO FOR A QUEST OR MATERIALS.
>baseless assumptions
THE GAMEPLAY HAS THE GUY HIDING FROM LITTLE ENEMIES YOU IDIOT.
CHRIST.
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>>380230996
I said to some people. You're the one who tried to decide what's good and bad and I literally just tried to push back.
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>>380227707

All I've fucking wanted since 2004 is this same fucking game with tweaks and new content

I've gotten it for 13 years and now it could all come crashing down around me if this game is all I think it is and it gets popular. I'm a little concerned to say the least.

Here's hoping it's not or it doesn't.
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>>380231085
>People jerk off souls combat
No they don't. Combat in souls is okay, but very few autists actually talk about how great the mechanics of combat in DS are. And MH combat isn't even as good as DS combat
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>>380231153
I played for like a hundred hours of endgame without attempting to build anything new. The combat is just fun dude. I realize now you're just trying to get a rise out of me though. Take it easy.
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>>380230968
Yes that combat clearly looked like "Skyrim with hookshots".

I'm beginning to think that everyone trying to critique this game we know nothing about beyond a single 5 minute trailer is clinically retarded.
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>>380231267
There is literally no other game with combat like Souls and that's why people like it.
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>>380227483
>B-but muh skill!
Shut up, you don't even know if they are removing the game's playstyle yet!
We have gotten one trailer and it's all CG until we see a hud.
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>game finally does something different
>game finally has more features due to being on a stronger console
>DOEEEESSSSNNNN't COUUUUUNNT
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>>380231152
This is most definitely dead.
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>>380231267
I'd argue it's significantly better. For weighty combat monhun is king, for fast it would be either dmc3 or ninja gaiden.
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>>380231329
The game is clearly pandering to DD players with those mount mechanics shown in the trailer
anybody saying it resembles skyrim is retarded
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Isn't the game literally a movie tie in? How can anyone expect it to not be shit?
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>>380227483
>casual game

Was monster hunter ever not a casual game with autistic grinding thrown in?

Isn't that why literally nobody applauded it on stage?
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>>380231341
It's not the mechanics that work well in DS, it's the balancing of the game. Monhun isn't nearly as balanced, it's all over the place.
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>>380231098
Fuck you, you worthless stupid cunt.

This is why there is shit posting and negativity. You think you are on the righteous side? No, you are just the faggot on the polar opposite of the spectrum. Play some fucking video games motherfucker, this shit is literally all the same in every single one of them. Anyone who knows anything about video games and is being honest would immediately recognize what they saw, it's straight out of garbage like Shadow of Mordor, right down to the object highlight.
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>MHXX
>nerscylla pilots a giant bone mech, something very unlike the series
>crickets
>MH Worlds
>everything is immediately assumed to be awful in just five minutes of gameplay
It's because it's not on a Nintendo console, isn't it?
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>my casual mindless grinding game played on a leapfrog is dumbed down REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Honestly the series is hot garbage and could use a refresh.
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>>380231072
>murder massive dragon monsters and skin them to make armor and weapons
There are plenty of games where you do that. BoTW has you killing big monsters and using their parts for upgrades. Even in far cry games you can murder big komodo dragons, skin them, and use the parts to upgrade your equipment. Are Far Cry games monster hunter? What about zelda? That's a really weak definition.
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Oh no I watched a 5 minute trailer. I know all about this game. Give it a fucken rest it's probably alpha footage take a xanex or piss your pant if your a Switch owner. I'll take a breath and wait for the whole game reveal #spaz.
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WAGH ITS ON PC ON PC NOW

Fuck you Anon, i love monster hunter and im glad this shit is finally coming to PC.

Are they going to make it more causal? yeah probably but at least i dont have to play it on my autistic 3ds
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>>380231236
It also has you hide from big enemies in plain fucking sight with no concern for how the AI looks for the audience you mongoloid. You will be able to hide from the main monsters in bushes just like you can from the little ones.
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>>380231060
For the bush thing it looks like a really strange cut was made between contact with the small monsters and the actual bush hiding. Its possible that there was an entire sequence of running away and escaping sight from the monsters and then hiding from them. It seems really weird to me that the monsters would loose sight and go into a sort of "hunt" mode if they actually see the player dive into a bush.
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>>380231545
>nerscylla pilots a giant bone mech, something very unlike the series

I need sauce on this, I've not touched MHXX
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>>380231505
yeah, but MonHun is also not pvp-centric
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>>380231545

It's because XX wasn't on stage at E3 and because the open world meme is in /v/'s crosshairs lately.
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This is the only thing that resembles "old" MH combat they have shown in the trailer. That's how shit the combat will be. They only keep the worst shit.
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I'll judge the game when it comes out.

I don't mind if the gameplay is different as long as its fun and still challenging. Regardless I hope they continue to make old style Monster Hunter to sell to commuting Japs.
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>>380231317
>The combat is just fun
Sure, so is Destiny combat. It's just fun
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>>380231563

Just go play games you like instead of shitting up ones you don't with casual shit
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>>380231572
That's literally monster hunter though.

I'm not killing the Brach for the 12th time for fun. I'm doing it for that fucking gem that WONT FUCKING DROP!

That's why these games are 500 hours. At least 400 of those are spent killing/carving the shit out of monsters to slap together every set you want.
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>>380231678
According to the community, this is okay but an attempt at re-imagining how the world is set up and giving monsters more depth with their environment isn't.
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>>380231494
shut up! i bet you like dragons dogma

asshole
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>>380231686
Yeah, it's not skill-based, it's loot-based. It's for gamblers.
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>>380231717
Your example is shit because Destiny does actually have good shooting mechanics. Why didn't you just use WoW as an example?
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>>380231702
Can you show this on a real device?
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>>380231508

Namecalling and going full spectrum isn't gonna make you win this argument anon. Game looks great.
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>>380231572
Are you comparing the combat against a big komodo dragon to anything in monster hunter?
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>>380231823
No, this is not OK either. Stop making it a console warrior thing, you retards.

Many, many, many fans hate X and it's not very famous in Japan anyway. We still had hope because it was not designed by the A team, though.
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>>380231702
>the """"difficulty""""of the game comes from the shitty controls and small screen
ebic...
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>>380231887
That makes it a good example. It does have good shooting mechanics. But the actual reason why people play it is because they're addicted to leveling shit up. And yet they always use the IT'S JUST FUN excuse. Monhun retards are literally exactly the same
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>>380231676
>ts possible that there was an entire sequence of running away and escaping sight from the monsters and then hiding from them

Holy shit i cannot believe someone is this delusional. Are you fucking 12 years old or what?

> It seems really weird to me that the monsters would loose sight and go into a sort of "hunt" mode if they actually see the player dive into a bush

That would seem really weird to someone who somehow has not seen any game from which this """"""""""mechanic"""""""""" is 100% copy pasted from, yes.
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>>380231989
You are probably the dumbest poster I've seen on /v/ at least the last two months.

No one even defends the handheld shit. It's not the topic.
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>monster hunter finally gets out of the handheld hole it's been trapped in for years
>it finally gets a much needed graphical update
>"shouldn't even be called Monster Hunter"

also

>Almost everything in the trailer seemed scripted

well yeah dummy it's a trailer not live gameplay
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>>380231823
What the heck did I just watch
Why can a spider control a mecha
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>>380227483
OP confirmed for never having seen a MH trailer.
They are all full of stuff you can't or won't do in the game.
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Wow now I know why game developers don't heed smart advice there is none.
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>>380231361
Actual Monster Hunter requires good timing and precision and rewards both, of course also memorizing things. So shit like in this webm doesn't happen to you.

In World he literally hookshots onto the monster even when it's in a trap, then just scales its body and mashes attack buttons randomly.

Say goodbye to this. Forever.
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>>380232109
Well to tell you the truth, I really want the series off the 3ds because it fucking destroys my hands after a few hours. I just want to not have cramped ass controls for once.
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>>380231942
Fuck off you apex mongoloid faggot.

Come back when you have an actual argument and not soggy knees.
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>>380231508
>This entire post
You come off like you're REEEEEEEEEEEing that not everyone is agreeing with you that NO CHANGES are allowed in a game series that has seen zero real innovation or significant change in a decade. This is exactly the fucking same as the CoD fanboys getting pissy when airdashing and future shit was added to their favorite modern military game.
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>>380232263
>monhun baby thinks this webm looks fun
Woooow
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>>380232263
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>>380232263
Bye.
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>>380232109
Keep getting mad autismo. I'm glad they're making the game appeal to a larger demographic than just autistic weebs who sperg if anything changes. There is nothing to dumb down since it was already casual grinding garbage, maybe they can redesign it so it's actually not shit.

Point is your series has been the same autistic grinding for 10+ years. Replay the old games if you want the exact same shit.
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>>380231958
He said that Monster hunter is about murdering dragons. He did not mention the combat or the mechanics, only killing dragons. Komodo dragons are dragons by name, and in Far Cry you can murder them. Of course Monster Hunter and Far Cry are completely different but going by his definition then Far cry would be monster hunter.
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>>380232263
Good. You just showed me a combo chain with a useless third attack, that whiffed at point blank range twice in a row. Maybe in Worlds you can actually land your whole string.
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>>380232373
If this was a Souls boss, we'd be laughing at how shit this fight is
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>>380232367
>this entire post
>ad hominem straw man
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>>380231508
>this guy thinks hes a video games expert because he knows all the 4chan buzzwords
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>>380232119
Monster Hunter was born on the 3DS. The series shouldn't be anywhere else.
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>>380227707
Madden has been using some of the same fucking basic code since it was a pc only game back in the fucking early 90s.

It has not changed significantly if at all in that time.

Changing something that works and people want and expect this drastically is a recipe for disaster.

Mark my words.
Nintendo is going to all but force capcom to create an oldschool Monster hunter iteration for the switch to go alongside this potential catastrophe.
But with nintendo charging money for online with the worst service ever seen, like the fucking dreamcast online service was better...I don't know.

MH is going to shit the bed in japan bruh. And Japan as well as Asian countries in general is really the place where it does it's best business.
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>>380232263
outsider here
how is that shit different
you complain about button mashing stunned target by posting the same stuff
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>>380232402
Oh, ok then
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>>380231942
Why is Assassin's Creed gameplay suddenly great is what I'm wondering.

Why is sitting in high grass suddenly great?

Why is button awesome suddenly great?

Why are scripted action events suddenly great?

Literally the only hope you have if you are not a retard is that this trailer is very, very misleading like the Monster Hunter 4 reveal trailer. Otherwise they will actually make this game and retards will all eat it up and give it good scores. And then Monster Hunter is dead. Forever.
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>>380232478
>4chan buzzwords

Like?
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>>380232458
The point is that proper positioning is necessary for that third attack to hit. But that was bait so why did I respond
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>>380228208
>"DEATH TO ALL GOOD GAMES!"
That's the thing though, Monster Hunter isn't a good game.
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>>380232263
>complain about button mashing
>post webm with button mashing

wut

I mean seriously I know there are webms out there more impressive than this. Did you select the wrong one when uploading?
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>>380232373
Never played the MH games but this looks like garbage Tbh
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>>380232465
If it was a souls boss you would have like 13 iframes instead of like 4.
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Games change,they evolve that's called game progression even fucking monster hunter.Shit who thought that would ever happen?
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>>380232486
Are you fucking with me? Are you going to reply to this post "lel gotchu ;)"?
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>>380232693
Epic skill bro! I hope you got epic loot out of it!
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>>380232768
Nah, after that fight he got basic components. Gotta try again and again for that rare part.
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>>380232630
>practically rubbing up against the monster
>not "proper positioning"
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>>380232104
It was a theory you autist. All I said was that there was a strange cut in between the monsters seeing the player and the player in the bush. And yes, in other games with bush hiding you usually have to break LoS with whatever saw you for the bush to be effective. I'm not saying its a good mechanic but you seem to think its worse than it actually is.
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>>380232263
This franchise is dead. Just look at all those NeoGAF tourists hyping it here.

>>380232648
>>380232370
It shows doing it wrong, retard. Work on your reading comprehension. It's not supposed to look fun. It's a fail.

Now the important thing is; you can actually do something wrong in actual Monster Hunter. And what the person in the webm did wrong was just mashing buttons without timing. You can't do anything wrong sitting on the monster and mashing buttons. Picture a Dragon's Dogma cyclops fight.

>>380232671
Yeah, I want to hide in high grass instead of perfectly dodging cool monsters. Fuck this.
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I don't see what's so "casualized" by the gameplay we've seen.
I think it's cool that they're trying to implement the monsters finally being able to actually interact with each other and the environment like a real ecosystem. That's the kind of shit the old cinematics would have in them, but we've never truly gotten in gameplay outside of the Raths calling each other to their zones. I thought that was a neat inclusion.
Tracking the monster seems neat too, adds a bit more depth than just running around aimlessly until you find the monster and then throwing a paintball on it. There's actual signs of where the monster is and how to get to them.
Anyone acting like the grappling hook is something new is either out of the loop with the newer games or hasn't actually played them. Every game tries new gimmicks. There's been ways of making movement easier since 4 with mounting and climbing. Adept and Aerial arts are a big example of this. These things have never ruined the game.
Stealth does seem wonky, I'll admit that, but it's not like you have to use it anyways. It's just more options for people.
And why are people upset that you can move and shoot with the bowgun? Are people still trying to pretend that bowgunning is fun? It's clunky as shit, they haven't touched the bowgun mechanics since the PSP era, while melee has gotten minor tweaks and improvements over time. I honestly see this as being people not wanting change than anything.
At the end of the day, unless the game ends up being absolutely abysmal, which, thinking realistically, NOTHING has shown that proves it to be so, I will play this, XX, and whatever Monster Hunters come in the future. We still have yet to be shown the meat of this game, it's best not to assume.
But hey, maybe I'm thinking too reasonably for this board since the majority of people would rather assume before knowing.
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>>380231251

I feel you anon. Not a single damn thing has gotten better with Western popularity. Everything gets worse. Especially these days with insufferable normalfags and their goddamn memes and shitflinging rages and politics.

Monster Hunter didn't deserve this.
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>>380232841
So he has to keep fighting and refighting the same shit monster just for the CHANCE of worthwhile loot.

wew lad.
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>>380229565
XX is out right now in 3ds and it's not enjoyable because it's either easy as fuck monsters that die in 3 minutes or hp sponges who will die in 30 minutes and all of this for no reasonable rewards like the previous games.
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Fuck off. We CoD now.
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>>380231140
>Mechanical skill level is very low
You have anything to back that up?
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>>380232853
Notice how the head of the hammer whiffs? Its hitbox follows that. Meaning that had he stood a little to the side, it would have hit.

That's proper positioning. But you knew that
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>>380232863
>You can't do anything wrong sitting on the monster
Yes, I'm sure he can't trow you off. I'm sure only you saw that flaw.
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>>380232987
How quickly will you backpedal if rapid fire ends up being a new shot type?
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>>380232880
Because it's new, it was shown on the conference floor, and doesn't look like it's held back by the limitations of various handhelds. So it's shit and you're shit for liking it.
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>tfw liked mounting, arts, styles, and swimming
>Tfw this trailer looked pretty hype
>Tfw can't wait to try out the grappling hook and the new mounting mechanics
Stay salty niggers, I'll be ready to do another 2388 hunts with my hammer when this game drops.

Real talk though, how about you purists try looking into Dauntless? It seems more up your alley.
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>>380232863
Brave style was a mistake, it's overpowered shit
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Who would've known that a single trailer for a non-mainline entry in a niche series would produce such a mountain of salty buttholes?
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>>380232987
I personally can't wait to play this epic new third person shooter where I fight dinosaurs with machine guns
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>>380232768
I played souls before you unless you imported DeS and enjoy it and I played monhun from the first. I don't know what you're going for here.
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>>380232987
At least they might be somewhat tolerable to play now.
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>>380232996
Do you do anything in that game other than roll and hit the slash button?
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>>380232863
>And what the person in the webm did wrong was just mashing buttons without timing.
That's literally what the mounting mechanic has always been
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>>380232109

don't reply to people posting meme images. they're not here to talk, they're here to farm a screencap to show their friends.
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>>380232987
Nah man, we're Lost Planet now. Considering we had MH in our LP, we can get a little LP in our MH.
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>>380232465
If it was a Souls bassed, you would just lock-on, wait for telegraphing, then dodge with 30 Iframes, press attack button once or twice, repeat. Doesn't matter what boss. You literally only need to tilt the stick to the right or left, positioning doesn't matter. Nothing matters. Just hope you don't get ghost hit, the boss has a glitchy grab attack or you have to fight four enemies at the same time because From Software doesn't know how to make difficult but fair 1 vs. 1 fights.

>>380232631
That's true. It was around 3 time when hitboxes were fixed and until X.
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>MH was always about perfect dodges
>MH was always extremely skillful and required the best of the player

Where the fuck is my Monster Hunter boys, are they all on /vg/ right now?
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>>380232987
You say that as if bowguns are enjoyable at all right now.
Bowguns need revamping, they haven't been touched since the PSP games.
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>>380233129
I actually played DeS demo at a conference before release, but nice try, elitist baby.
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>>380232987
As a hbg main, this made my dick rock hard.
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Monster Hunter World is literally Monster Hunter for people who neither play nor enjoy Monster Hunter.
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>>380233306
Win some you lose some. Nothing wrong with a little elitism.
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>>380233346
Good, because Monster Hunter is shit
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>>380232854
Here's a theory

>And yes, in other games with bush hiding you usually have to break LoS

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
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>>380233056
>Yes, I'm sure he can't trow you off
it can but looks like you can grapple your way back so thats not much.
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>>380231494
>Was monster hunter ever not a casual game with autistic grinding thrown in?
>i only played the mainline monhuns
casual nigger
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>>380233346
I think some of the potential new mechanics are cool and I'm open-minded to the possibility that this will still maintain enough old Monster Hunter to be fun.
t. someone who has invested countless of hours into every Monster Hunter and will play XX regardless of how this turns out
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Wow! Sony fans sure get assblasted about Monster Hunter!
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>>380233346
Actually it's for people who don't want to sink 100 of hours looking down at a small screen.
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>>380232863
Say goodbye to fun Monster Hunter. Say hello to Dragon's Dogshit: Skyrim Harder

>>380233056
I bet it requires a lot of time mastering your "not getting thrown off" skills in this game. Totally comparable with memorizing every single move of a monster, reading frame windows, recovery animations and GSU properly.
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>>380233401
>I, someone who has zero interest in this series, should be the one to decide who gets to enjoy the games and who should not.
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>>380232987
>Sonygers think this is a good thing
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>>380232987
>moving while firing

Top kek.

People unironically defend this casualized shit game here. /v/ is so dead.

>but but I want to be superman
>why is big sword so slow?

It's amazing and satisfying to maket he best out of the tools you were given and master them.
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Why does open world automatically mean bad? Contrary to what some of you might think, the kind of game Monster Hunter is doesn't need to rely on a million loading zones if it's done well. And since they're adding monster tracking and monster vs monster interaction, it seems like they're doing it right so far. Environmental usage might be okay too.
They'll probably have specific areas the monsters still remain in and paintballs will likely still be around, so what's the problem with removing zones? The only reason zones were kept was because of tech limitations.
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>>380233496
Man I love monhun but you're posting really bad webms. Monhun is at its least fun when a monster is stunned (which is why mounting sucks). Post some gotcha bitch or something interesting.
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>>380233550
I feel like playing it, and I've had my problems with MH that Capcom will never fix for the mainline series.
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>>380233496
>Calling it skyrim didn't work, so now I'll call it Dragon's Dogma+Skyrim!
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>>380233496
I fucking hate the equipment designs in Monster Hunter. They were okay in the first game, for the most part, but it's become self parody at this point.
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>Monster Hunter fans don't like Dragon's Dogma

Is that a common sentiment? I always wanted a MH game with DD combat. The mounting system and the weighty attacks you need to dedicate yourself to would work extremely well with MH's already defined playstyle. Add MH's level of crafting and weapon variety and you have nearly a perfect game.
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>>380233645
Don't kid yourself.
Nothing is satisfying about the bowgun as is. Because unlike melee, which has been getting minor tweaks and updates over every game, the bowgun has stayed the same since pre-Tri. And it's boring as fuck.
Most high level Bowgunners are glorified healsluts spamming party healing items while sometimes being a turret. It's not fun like melee.
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>>380233746
You just want it to be CoD
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>>380232468
I'm sorry that I didn't take the time to dissect and fully appreciate and discuss every sentence of that post anon, but since you need me to break it down for you I will.

>Fuck you, you worthless stupid cunt.
Thank you
>This is why there is shit posting and negativity.
Yes, from reactionary faggots like you that think they know everything about a videogame from one 5 minute trailer.
>You think you are on the righteous side?
This is videogames, not philosophy.
>No, you are just the faggot on the polar opposite of the spectrum.
What, the non reactionary side? Or the non-autistic side?
>Play some fucking video games motherfucker
I do or I wouldn't be here
>this shit is literally all the same in every single one of them
While you are correct that bush hiding is in several games, so is swinging swords and crafting weapons and armor from drops
>Anyone who knows anything about video games and is being honest would immediately recognize what they saw
I never said it wasn't bush hiding, I just said that its stupid to call it a "pretend mechanic"
>it's straight out of garbage like Shadow of Mordor, right down to the object highlight
You clearly know little about video games if THAT'S your example. There are lots of games, hell, lots of good games that have object highlight. Something as insignificant as that doesn't make a game bad.
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>>380227483
That is because western audiences like mechanics over movement/combat, they also prefer "epic" while japan likes "cool". those are the main different philosophies that clash when it comes to western and japanese vidya.

The people they are catering to with MHW are those who appreciate interesting gameplay mechanics that might be small and unnecessary to some like me but together amount to something that makes you feel engaged in the game they're playing. Then you have japan who only wants to do cool shit that makes them go "sugoi!"

An example of what I'm trying to say is the stealth/luring/trap setup thing we saw in the MHW teaser. It looks really cool but I'd rather spend that time engaging the monster face to face and fighting as always, which I'm sure is an option in MHW too.

Also please look at these two trailers of the same game that serve as an example of what I mean when it comes to epic vs cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acHkUhkg6AY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gISo65NUTDI

I personally think that whatever MHW is and Mainline can coexist since they seem to be pretty different.
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>>380233675
It's just infantile panick. It's like when you take a babies toy away. Try convincing a child why one thing you know is better is actually any better then the thing they already love.

The saddest part is they'll only get around to playing it years after we've all enjoyed it to death. Avoiding it out of spite.
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>>380233839
I love both games, but I'm of the opinion that capcom consistently churns out the best combat in the industry (it's just most other things they suck at).
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>all these assumptions
>when we haven't seen a second of the actual combat yet
We saw what mounting might be changed to and a new bowgun shot type. We haven't seen a second of melee combat yet, AKA the bulk of combat.
yet I see some pretty bold statements ITT
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>>380233496
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>>380233839
I dunno, I literally played DD to recapture that MH feel since my PSP got busted. It plays slightly differently, but it's there.
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>>380233843
>Most high level Bowgunners are glorified healsluts spamming party healing items while sometimes being a turret.
t. Someone who doesn't play Monster Hunter
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>>380233843
> And it's boring as fuck.
it sint has alwasy been high reward high risk.
you ben able to move while firing takes away a lot of that risk nad bowguns alwasy had more versatility thanks to bullet types and are better for big monsters.
>Most high level Bowgunners are glorified healsluts spamming party healing items
you have never being a gunner do you?
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>>380234109
Every G Rank 4U lobby I was in had the bowgunner doing this.
But keep thinking standing still being a living turret is fun I guess.
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>>380234006
>We haven't seen a second of melee combat yet,
Must be a good sign.
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>>380233857
No, I want to fix the fucking bullshit when a monster decides to fuck around at the the entrance/exit of an area, where one swing will send you into a fucking load screen.

I want talismans to not be 99% dogshit with a few being elder god tier that take HUNDREDS OF HOURS TO GET.

I want armors to have good skills and not objectively fucking worthless ones.

I also want less fucking recolored dogshit and more actual monsters.

For that I also don't want my time wasted in high rank. I want normal and then I want hard shit. I don't want this dumb middling difficulty that introduces one new monster and some shitty subspecies with no variety in the questing.

And above I don't ever want to see a fucking gem requirement ever again.
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>>380234162
No early footage of any of the games except Generations did. But you can keep pretending this is new if you want.
Early footage is always used to show off the new things, which only leads me to believe they didn't show the melee combat because it's the same.
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You guys are acting like the God of War fans, and their series is going through a much more drastic change than yours.
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>>380234160
>had the bowgunner doing this.
so you never was one yourself?
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>>380234273
It's just the same end of the world shit /v/ gives with any games. 90% of the claims people make in these threads have yet to be validated by what we've seen.
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I can't understand people in here. Are you just upset because you don't own a ps4 and you are a bit mad that you won't be able to play it or are you realy disapointed with what you saw ?

I'm obviously a MH fan, Played the series on psp and 3DS and even if I like the game a lot, you have to admit that apart from a few new weapon, and monsters, the games all look kind of the same after all these years.

I'm actually very happy with what MH world seems to be. The core gameplay seems similar but it feels like a real new game this time (new mechanics, finally a monster hunter that doesn't look like shit, I like that you can hunt the monster and summons players anytime you want, no zones, no loading)

Yes it feels a bit different but it doesn't mean that it won't feel like a MH game. Give it a chance, I can't wait ...
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>>380233839
>Is that a common sentiment?
I don't think so. I think it's some retard memeing because I haven't met a monster hunter fan yet that disliked dragons dogma. If there is one, I guarantee they're a fuckin snore to hunt with.
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>>380234346
I gave gunner a good honest try, then quickly went back to the area of combat that doesn't only have one weapon type, doesn't gimp your armor, and actually has you doing a lot more.
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>>380233916
They can coexist if Capcom actually makes a fucking Mainline title without diverting resources away to World.
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>>380234160
But the 4U healthslut is the sword and shield
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>>380232957
That's pretty much the point of the game. Grinding and making it difficult to boot.

Its a niche genre. But it attracted more people, thereby creating copycats. And copycats dealt with some complaints those who played those games but did not like it made. Which is fine, except when Capcom copies the copycats.
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>>380234248
The problem is other MH trailers didn't show much combat but they also didn't show a lot of shit no one was asking for like casual stealth, Just Cause 3 mechanics, even more climbing and le epic, bumpy, messy open world that does not go hand in hand with the Monster Hunter combat AT ALL which is why everyone doing speedruns will always prefer even areas. More reliable, more fun, less "hit nothing but thin air because Monster is morphing through wall or is standing mid-air.
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>>380234248
All monhun trailers got gaemplay and showcased new weapons and combat.
unless you mean the mh4 project which was a tech demo of MH4 when 3G was revealed.
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>>380234481
Don't bother with him, he has no idea what he's talking about.
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>>380234381
I'm worried that they'll stop making the classic-style games in favor of this.
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>>380234557
>muh passive aggressive replying
>am I fitting in yet guys?
This fanbase is full of salty buttholes.
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>>380227654
>cb isnt already dead
i stopped playing because gen killed it and then i picked up HH and couldnt get gud
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>>380234476
>doesnt gimp your armor
as i said high reward high risk.
>doing a lot more
you need to constantly change amo and position yourself . it has access to both elemental and sattus and is the ebst against large enemies.
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>PS4, Xbox One and PC get a Monster Hunter game made by the same team as MH1/MH2/MH3/MH4
>Switch gets an outsourced Monster Hunter 3DS port from 2015

CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
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>>380234623
>how dare you call me out on being wrong
>literally "you mad" posting
Feel free to fuck off at anytime.
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>>380232486
No, monhun was born on ps2
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>>380234221

You forget that levelling quest bullshit in mhx. Its already hard enough to find people fighting a specific monster let alone level X of that monster. I never got to getting monster 10 stuff because no one was doing level 3-4 stuff.

Also urgents not being completed for each person who does it. Look at how many people join parties only to get their urgents and leave when they dont get to choose their quest.
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>we have seen all of two minutes of various E3-show HUD-less 'gameplay' with no music or context
>I AM A MONSTER HUNTER EXPERT AND I CAN SAY THAT THIS TITLE IS BOTH TERRIBLE AND GAY BECAUSE THE THINGS THEY FOCUSED ON FOR NORMIES WATCHING THE CONFERENCE WERE NOT GUARD POINTS AND 240P

What in the fuck is fucking wrong with you goddamn autists? If the first look at Monster Hunter games was all of it, MH4 would have literally just been slow panning shots of multi-level terrain. You need to kill yourselves RIGHT now.

HE ATTACKED WITH HIS SWORD ALL OF TWO FUCKING TIMES AND BOTH BEHAVED AS NORMAL, YOU HAVE NO IDEA IF THE STEALTH SHIT HAS ANY PRACTICAL APPLICATION AND NO REASON BEYOND 'MUH HORIZON', A DIFFERENT GAME BY A DODGY AT BEST STUDIO, TO SAY IT'S GOING TO BE BAD, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE GAMEPLAY WILL BE LIKE, FUCK YOU AND FUCKING DIE

That's all.
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>>380234570
I wouldn't be worried if I were you. XX is coming and the "vanilla" version of MH is so popular that I think the formula will still be somewhere in the future anon.
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>>380227654
>)
I'm a relatively (MH Freedom) old MH player, and i'm happy to see real change in the MH formula, i just hope it doesn't kill the old formula forever.
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>>380234803
If this game was released on the Switch, you would not have any of these posters doing what they're doing in every thread.
I can guarantee it. Some of these people likely think the series started on the Wii.
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>>380234479
This is a valid concern and the reason many people are and will be riled up about MHW until Capcom clears things up. Worst case scenario Ichinose takes the wheels of mainline forever and ever and the game becomes Rathalos Hunter
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>>380231443
cough cough MH4
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>>380227483
I have played MH and have not seen the trailer.
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>>380234915
I hate that game the Switch gets just as much as World at this point, anon. Not everyone is a mentally retarded piece of shit like you.
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>>380229237
game isn't even out yet and you're already telling people not to buy it

maybe get more than 5 minutes of "gameplay" before you fucking judge it retard
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Tracking monsters and the way the monsters actually fight and eat each other like the cinematics used to show are both positives. Shows they have an idea for how to make the open world work.
I'm not going to assume the base combat has been fucked until they show it outside of showing off the environment damage
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>>380235064
For some people three minutes gameplay of a game whose basic mechanics they have internalized perfectly is enough. It's a gift.
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MH fan tears make me rock hard
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>>380235213
Most of the basic mechanics have yet to be shown and we have an employee at Capcom saying a lot of it is still in the game.
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>>380235213
this is satire right
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>>380235226
Why? Did a MH fan fuck and ditch your mother or something? Seems weird.
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>>380234802
I have wanted to strangle a bitch because of that system.

and oh my fucking god it is an absolute fucking pain to moderate that shit and keep kicking shitters.

Also fuck frenzy and fuck the horse it rode in on.


>>380234570
What the fuck are you worried about faggot? This series has way too many shitty mechanics for normies to taint it.
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>>380232987
>we
>EVOLVE
>now

just fuck my franchise up family
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>>380235183
>literaaly 3 new options to moutn or pin monsters
the difficulty is already fucked.
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>>380234482
>Which is fine, except when Capcom copies the copycats.
No. If a game company makes a game and another developer copies it and makes it better, the original game company would be fucking stupid to not follow the copy's lead.

Ultima VIII was a janky game at best and outright broken at worst. It was rushed and a lot of things were cut, but even if it weren't rushed it still would have been janky to play. That was in 1994. A mere two years later a little studio named Blizzard Entertainment copies the basic format of Ultima VIII, removes the jank and smooths out the rough edges, releasing a game called Diablo that becomes a smash hit and makes them a household name.

That kind of wild worldwide success is what Capcom has been missing out on all this time by keeping Monster Hunter the same garbage it has been for 14 years.
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>>380235276
concepts are, but the exection is what matters.
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>>380235276
Those western Twitter nu-males, right?

Cool.

Capcom is purposely catering to casual Horizon fags with this game. It's obvious to everyone who is not a "BUT NINTENDO" or, well, Horizon/Dragn's Fagma/Skyrim retard himself.
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>>380229237
You honestly sound like the most unfun person to hunt with. Like that one guy who insists all shooters are shit because they aren't original quake

Take the stick out of your ass and enjoy the game. They even have guild style and no one is gonna make you equip an art.
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>>380235321
Oh man its just the salt right now. It's so glorious to watch. I thought the butthurt nazis would be the most paranoid, terrified little niche of gamers.
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>tfw gonna play this and XX because I'm not a sperg
How some of you think there's a straight definition for Monster Hunter when every game experiments a shitload is beyond me.
I can only assume people screamed "THIS ISN'T MONSTER HUNTER" when 4 showed off mounting and shit, too, yet now most people consider 4U the best of the 3DS games.
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>>380235450
>game gives you 100 iframes
>j-just don't use it, it's not like you feel like gimping yourself or something
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>>380235276
>there are health bar and satmina guys
Yeah but i want to see how fucking much there is and how much is the depletion or recover of them.
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>>380235321
They have an inproportionally high amount of assholes in their community and they're the worst kind of nostalgiafags
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>>380235441
It really sounds like you had a stroke at the end of your post.
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>sonyfags used to talk about how post-MHFU games casualized the franchise
>now they're defending casualization with a shit-eating grin on their faces
Boy, this sure came full-circle
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>>380228320
Your fucking lying! Capcom wouldn't tank ANOTHER franchise for potential normie dollars, would they?
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>>380235356
Honestly, I don't feel like Monster hunter has ever been a game about raw difficulty
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>>380229237
I started with MH1 as well and I enjoyed gen and will likely give worlds a shot. I had my little fit when I saw mounting and decided monhun was dead, but I played 4u and it turned out to be fun so fuck it. I can always go play FU whenever I want.
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>>380235527
the weakes part of 4U was the evrtical gameplay.
They going full blow with this and adding more options to topple the monsters is taking away from the core combat. its unlikely this game will even have the same number of monster 4g did.
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>>380234964
Fucking kill me.
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>>380235535
You can't burn the candle at both ends. Either use the tools or don't. Don't bitch about using a brick because you don't want to pick up a hammer.
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>>380235467
>shittaste in games, probably likes open world meme and Sony shit
>irrational aversion for a group of people
>antifacuck
>probably stupid

The pieces of this puzzle fit together almost too well.
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>>380235637
Seriously, anyone defending this is letting their console fagging cloud their judgement so hard
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>>380235690
>it's unlikely
Why? because you want it to be true?
They already said older monsters are coming back, there's literally no possible way to predict the amount of monsters in the game. You're being pessimistic for the sake of pessimism by saying it's unlikely, especially when 4U was on the 3DS.
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>>380235527
>"THIS ISN'T MONSTER HUNTER" when 4 showed off mounting and shit


they did, they do the same thing everytime something new is added

they did it for underwater combat, they did it for mounting, they did it for styles and they're doing it here as well

they won't be happy with anything unless its literally a clone of MHFU
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>>380235276
HERE IS THE DEFINITIVE LIST OF THINGS NECESSARY FOR A GOOD MONSTER HUNTER GAME

-COOKING (CONFIRMED)
-COMFY VILLAGES
-COMFIER ARMOR
-CUTE GIRLS
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>>380227483
Look great, will be waiting for this game. Glad its on PC too.
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>>380235438
>>380235637
>>380235774
YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE OF CASUALISATION
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>>380235674
it is not in the sense of unfair. But each gen has been adding more and more shit to give an upper hand over monsters. However pre existing natural traps already set is just too much.
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>>380235862
Nah, only good combat is. Your list is mad gay.
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>>380235830
I like to think this is only /v/ but I heard rumor that other forums were having a fit over this, too.
I haven't checked /mhg/ because that place is bad anyways
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>>380227483
>you can climb them now
What is this, Dragon's Dogma? Because it sure did look like a DD clone, instead of a MH game.
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>>380235862
>COOKING (CONFIRMED)
They removed the song tho
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the worst part about the game is the tri level downgrade in content. It will probably be even worse than tris.
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>the cinematics for the older games would always show things like monsters fighting each other, one monster eating another, or pieces of the environment breaking apart
>now all this actually happens in the game
>not monster hunter
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>oh no, an actually new game is being released in this series for the first time in like 15 years
>it might become the standard to have environments that are open and engaging
>it might become the standard to have new features
>it might become the standard to have intractable environments
>it might become the standard to have a singleplayer focus despite still having co-op and no, you fucking retards, the last several games have been unplayable garbage singleplayer
>it might become the standard to have actually good gameplay
>it might become the standard to have an actual, sizable non-nip playerbase
W-WHAT WILL WE DO BROS?????
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>>380235994
Kill yourself.
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>>380235928
Who needs combat when you can be the warmest man on earth?
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>>380235527
I don't really care about the system I just don't like western games and seeing this westernized MonHun is conflicting because I don't know how much they sacrificed to make it work yet.

Open world games like Horizon and that Bioware game they showed yesterday really don't do anything for me so seeing MH like that is scary as a fan of the series. I know the MH devs are really talented but the model they seem to be going for is one I'm not fond but that's my opinion
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>>380235872
>machine gun bowgun

uhh
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>>380235916
>He's never baited diablos to get stuck in a wall after a charge
>He's never knocked kecha wacha through the canopy to get that dank mount attack off
There's nothing in the trailer that tells us the environment interactions aren't in the same vein.
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It's literally just Dragon's Dogma under a Monster Hunter coat of paint.
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>>380235397
Toukiden and God Eater are not smash hits though. Not to the point they threaten the throne of MH.
And your analogy would hold if Ultima IX had been a copy of Diablo.

More to the point, this is more a case of Diablo 2 vs Diablo 3, to keep the analogy. Blizzard was the one who made the ARPG genre what it is today, when everyone copies D2. When they changed things around in D3, many people complained and still do to this day. Regardless of who is right in this scenario, there is nothing wrong with innovating. Copying mechanics that are dubiously considered superior is where the problem lies.

Which is not to say that what Capcom is doing is bad, because we know little. Only that some things are either changing or being added.
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>>380235994
They confirmed it though
It's just not in the trailer
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>>380236046
Can I borrow your time machine?
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>>380235872
>hunter literally hides in front of a pack of lizzards and they lost track of him
>enviroments have natural traps that mosnter fell on easily.
>drop in and out online emans deaths from teammate or in general have little consequence, like soul games summoning.
>lack of zones mean you can agro monster to each natural trap you encounter.
>moving bowgun
still need to see what they did to items and animations.
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>>380235872
>grappling hook nonsense
>sole point of trailer is to showcase cinematic casualized gameplay
>chase scene through linear area
even the original leaker said it was made to be casualized for western audiences. I want it to be good but all the signs point in the wrong direction. This was clearly made to draw in casual non MH fans and its working wonderfully from what i've seen
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>>380236049
BRACHYDIOS
BEATING
THE
SHIT
OUT
OF
EVERYTHING

this is why I'm buying this
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Hmm, so this new Dinosaur game is a Dragon's Dogma spinoff? Interesting
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>>380236142
That's rad.
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>>380235994
the trailer had a lot of sounds/music turned off for the presentation
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>>380235765
It's shit. Period. Imagine you're a football goalie and you're allowed and have the option to use have a goal of the size of an icehockey goal. Every player would do it, but they certainly wouldn't enjoy it as much. Maybe sometimes they wouldn't do it, when playing friendly matches or just practicing, but once they fail to catch the ball? They will be frustrated and know the goal is self-imposed to an extent. Self-imposed loss is the worst loss. Also see loss aversion, a psychological effect that described how we rather avoid a loss than give a hostage to fortune (deciding against an advantage and hoping for an additional value, in this case more fun).
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>>380236089
Japanese developers tend to be able to do open world right, from what we've seen.
The tracking of monsters and the way they interact in their environment leads me to believe they know how to handle open world.
Loading zones were always a product of tech limitations, I'm sure if they want to they would have opened up the world already
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>>380236225

I wish, Dragon's Dogma is such a jewel compared to dogshit handheld pleb hunter.
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If I'm not mistaken, one of the trailers for mh on the ps2 shows players hiding from monsters several times in bushes and behind rocks. So they've been trying to push half baked stealth mechanics for a decade, and NOW it's ruining the game.

Also, this trailer looks pretty similar to the trailer for 4 where the player just runs and jumps to show off the new movement mechanics, hardly a great representation of gameplay in either case.

Fuck all of you babbies, I'm looking forward to a game in this series that looks nice for change, AND I don't have to play it on that faggy little 3ds screen. What a time to be alive.
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>NinToddlers defend Gen
>NinToddlers defend XX
>Shit on this based on a 3 minute long trailer for normies
Yeah, you're totally original MH fansâ„¢, and not console warriors. That's why whenver FU is brought up in modern MH threads every single NinToddler jumps out of the woodwork to tell us how "jank", "outdated", and artificial difficulty it is. NinToddlers just want to have their cake, and eat it too. Every single pre Nintendo MH is "Jank aritifical difficulty try hard shit", everything post Nintendo MH is "casualized western trash none real MH". Get the real MH experience only on Nintendoâ„¢ consoles today!
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>>380236049
there is a point where realism and game balance need to be proritized.
why even interfere with 2 monsters when one will kill the other surely.
is like if peco summoned jho and this killed him and ended the quest.
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>>380236108
>>380236185
>>380236202
Alright, you've convinced me to bait you as much as possible until the game is released. Hope you see (You) in my threads!
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>>380236367
I have to assume many of these players either never watched the old trailers or are just straight up new.
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>>380236275
So let me get this straight, you're so much of a casual AND a psychological wreck that you can't enjoy a self imposed challenge?

If lobo can autistically complete dark souls a thousand times over with his dick in a mouse trap, you can play guild without having absolute evasion equipped.

Give me a break.

Also
>Comparing mh to a competitive sport
Retard detected.
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>>380236365

speaking of which when can I get Dragon's Dogma 2 pls
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>>380236202
>grappling hooks are casual because I say so
>Sole point of the trailer being to show it off and make it look cool means "casualized" despite needing to make a cut every three seconds to make it even vaguely cinematic
>plenty of points in the chase have clear other paths
Stop being retarded
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>>380235987
For some reason Capcom really wants to turn MH into this overhyped, loved by NeoFAG Dragon's Dogma shit. I've never played a more boring game.

>empty, boring open world meme
>literally not one itneresting enemy in the entire world except chimeras and cyclops which are both easy and boring as fuck after the first time (the chimera is basically a braindead Teostra which can't hit you even if you want to to parry it)
>literally huge gameplay chunks and skills locked behind a grinding wall

It's funny that the same people who hype this shit moan about grinding in Monster Hunter, a game that offers all gameplay elements from the get go.
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>>380236427
Now you're being the console war faggot.

Just talk about the game and ignore console war fags
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>>380236461
>your point gets btfo
>haha it was bait i fool'd u xd
weak
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>>380236367
>to the trailer for 4
that was a techdemo when 3G was anounced the games was barely done at that point.

>and NOW it's ruining the game
becasue they are still half baked, how the fuck is hidding in a bush or with a cape usefule against this monster with good smell sense.
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>>380235872
power moves (especially evade)
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>>380236365
DD is overhyped trash same as Dark Shit. Go back to NeoGAF.
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>>380236446
It'll probably be used to help inhabit and fill the world, like, as you're going around doing whatever you can see the food chain and cycle of nature in action in the ecosystem.
Whether or not another monster can kill your mission target, however, is an interesting thing to consider.
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>>380236275
>Football goalie
Eurocuck detected. Opinion discarded. You may now bin your longsword.
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>>380236639
Not in the MHW trailer.
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>>380229565
>enjoying something new
Where do you think you are?
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>>380236427
why so butt hurt
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>>380236616
No, it was and is true. You can't prove any of your points are casualisation, and many of them are just speculation and extrapolation to begin with. But you're such angry children that you deserve to be triggered as frequently as feminists.
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>>380236502
>So let me get this straight, you're so much of a casual AND a psychological wreck that you can't enjoy a self imposed challenge?
Yes since I'm an almost perfectly normal, healthy human.

It's stupid. Getting the most out of something, minmaxing and completely perfecting your performance is what the Monster Hunter meta is about anyway.
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>>380236708
Retards on this board think the grappling hook can trivialize everything, yet hunter arts and styles don't despite being way more impacting.
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>>380236708
I know, but that was the point of no return.
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>>380236704
>pls say soccer because muh nigger dominated eggball
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>>380236650
>Shitting on DD
>Shitting on DS
>Shitting on Skyrim
>Shitting on a MH that is 6+ months away from release
>Shitting on everything
Enough anon, you've clearly made your point of being retarded obvious to everyone
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>>380236827
t. casual baby that needs her crutches
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>>380236562
>Beholder, gryphon, Drake
>Boring
Ok.
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>>380236683
in my opinon it takes from the game, monster already do damage to themsleves when attacking, they aggroing each other is to eazy. if the game wants to be doing this trap, sneak mechanics they will have to lower the combat options weapons have for it to not be broken.

in fact this would mean that dual monster fights might not happen on arena (if there is one) or might be easy as shit.
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>>380236427
>This much damage control

Here's your (YOU) and fuck outta here spergian

lmao
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>>380236789
Were that true, every hunt would be a 4 man team using a sequence of trapping/bombing/sleeping the monster to maximise the inflicted damage, break every relevant part and be done with it in a minute or less.

Which is a legit way to hunt, but fairly boring.
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>>380236621
My point is, it will be irrelevant as it always has been. I know I'm just gonna kill the thing instead of crawling around it like I've been doing forever. Why does it have to be a big deal? Just ignore the stealth like you've been doing ever since you started playing monster hunter.
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>>380236789
>Meta
>In a PvE game

My friend you are far from normal if you think you need to adhere to a meta.
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>>380236972
You don't even know what damage control means.
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>>380236930
>anything that adds to the base gameplay is a crutch
Go play FU again.
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>Nintendorks complaining about MHWorld not being a true MH game

What in the fuck. MHX/XX was already so far removed from the true MH experience and was a giant piece of shit for it. This looks like it's going back to its truer roots.
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>>380236827
Well it may make positioning and evading some attacks trivial. Also, long range weapons abuse by standing on ledges the monster cannot hope to hit the hunter on.

Which is not to say it will happen, since we don't know nearly enough. But it might.
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>380237045
Ew don't fucking reply to me sperg
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>>380236827
becauuse arts and styles affect mainly the combat but still need you to learn them and position yourself according to them.
grappling hook seems toogod, makes you move to new areas, can remount a monster if you are launched and seems to have little to no backdraw. positioning has alwasy been important on MH this just change that.
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>MH XX outsourced game
>MH World made by the same guy who made the first 4 games
No wonder nintenbros are on full denial
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>>380236789
>completely perfecting your performance is what the Monster Hunter meta is about anyway.
...so why have a problem when the games add more tools to your kit? I don't get it. If you're trying to get it perfect, why would having more flexibility in attaining that perfection be undesirable?

I simply do not understand.
that is unless you are foolishly trying to derive some kind of status by having mastered a video game, in which case I would refer you to a fighting game or something with a scoreboard for that kind of shit.
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>>380237086
>WAAH WORLD NOT REAL MH
>WAAH FU IS TOO HARD
Fucking Nintendies.
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>>380237106
a lot of the people complaining about world also complained about XX and don't consider it to be a part of the mainline series, which it isn't, it's an anniversary game.
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>>380237106
N-no the game was never meant to be a cool game about hunting huge monsters
It was always meant to be a ridiculous parody of itself pushing every aspect to the extreme and resulting in a grindy piece of shit
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>series has been highly experimental in each new release since 2007
>yet suddenly 10 years later it's a problem for them to experiment
Oh yeah, the series that drops new mechanics as quickly as it introduces them sure does have a clear definition.
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>>380237086
>adds
trivializes*
I bet you're an IG mount spamming faggot that defends that too.

>I-it a-adds t-t-t-t-to t-the g-game, I-I s-swear!
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>>380237106
It's literally console warriors. It's amazing they exist, and here of all places, but we're in it now.
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>>380236910
>no argument

>>380236939
>Beholder
No idea, killed it so fast before it could really do anything and I was probably overpowered already. That's another point, it's RPG trash and you are overpowered in no time.

>gryphon
Literally have to go through disgusting, annoying shenanigans (you have to look up on Google) to even make it appear reliably if you enjoy the fight. Another point why this game is so fucking stupid.

>Drake
That dragon in the forest? Yeah, that one was decent. Except I think one of the best and safest tactics fighting him is literally just throwing your pawns at him, so he holds them and you can attack the heart. Once I noticed, it stopped being fun and was just stupid as fuck. Telegraphing is also kinda fucked, especially of that tail swipe. You're definitely getting hit a few times before you can read it.
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>>380237106
Children just like to cry a lot to get attention.
Game looks good, im hyped.
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>>380236231
>>380236142
>Capcom hands the project to DD team
>it's not meant to be anything more than a cheap cashgrab spinoff that doesn't fucking matter
>DD team accidentally turns it to a DD clone and accidentally makes the GOTY
Post yfw
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>>380237106
That's just as much an assumption as believing this new MH is casualised shit made for the western market full with broken mechanics.

We don't know nearly enough right now because they showed very little.
Also not everyone compaining is a Nintendork
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>>380236789
Have you tried fidget spinners? I've been minmaxing now for about two hours and already have 1200 spins in a row.

If you need meta information just ask.
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>>380237289
You clearly haven't enjoyed this series in 10 years and have no reason to be in these threads other than shitposting.
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>>380237309
There's no argument because shitting on everything is not an argument either
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>>380227707
To be honest there is nothing wrong with reiterating stuff that works. I played every psp installment of the series from MH to Mh3rd with my friends and it was a blast.
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>>380237018
Man, if Worlds is what's need to shake the minmaxing fanatics out of Monster Hunter I'd gladly welcome it.
Shit's become an epidemic these days with every other player thinking they're hot shit because they watched someone else crunch numbers only to lead the team to a Quest Failed as fast as possible.
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>>380237106
Is it on a Nintendo console? Then it's true a Monster Hunter experienceâ„¢.

Is it on a competitor's console or PC? Casualized Western trash.
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>>380227483
You're right. It should be called Dragon's Dogma 2.
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>>380237440
What if it is on both a Nintendo console, PC, and two competitor's consoles?
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>>380237285
it's literally a nintendo fag shitting on it because it's not exclusive
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>>380237556
Any version other than the Nintendo version does not feel right.
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>>380237386
That is some hardcore projecting.
I loved 3U and 4U despite the glaring issues with the mechanics they added. X/XX is trash, 3Ubaby.
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>>380237301
PC 3ds ps4 masterrace here, I'm cautiously optimistic about the game, but when i first saw it i had a few reservations about the game because its a spinoff

If it was just MH5 i would've been through the fucking roof, but time will tell, I'm certainly not going to spend all day shitposting about it on /v/ though.
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I'm just upset about what seems to have been done to the bowgun. What the fuck is with automatic firing and moving while shooting? Either that's broken as shit, or has all the impact of a wet noodle.

I don't want them to remove the risk/reward gunners had before, where you had low defense, ideal ranges that were still within 2-3 rolls of a monster, and shots would root you into place for a moment (especially siege mode or rapid shots), in exchange for those meaty, ranged hits.
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>>380236994
the stealth is there for a reason, the hunter hiding from the pack of lizards means that they actually present a treath. this might mean that mobs might be x10 annoying this.
they are going for a more realistic approach and im afraid this might gett into a far different experience than what people would like. Mobs being dangerous woud explain the stealth being way too good to the point of ridiculous.
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>>380227483
Why such hate? I have played most of MH games for like 400h+ each, loved them all (expect swimming fuck that shit).
And i could not be more hyped for MHworlds.. sure thay can screw it up but just because thay finally make a game for non-handheld with amazing graphics doesn't mean thay are totally going to change up the gameplay. And to be honest little change wouldn't hurt anyways. Stop whining like a little bitch and wait until the game actually comes out.
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>>380236984
There clearly can be a loss noted here, though. In-game resources, your time, other people's time, and if you lose for some reason, you lost everything and gained nothing.

There is almost no loss whatsoever when decigin to use one of those overpowered artes.

>...so why have a problem when the games add more tools to your kit? I don't get it. If you're trying to get it perfect, why would having more flexibility in attaining that perfection be undesirable?
Because the gameplay is shit and positioning is less important. It's almost Souls territory unimportant where you don't have to give a shit about GSU and hitboxes anymore and just morph thorugh everything anyway. Just look out for tells and press button.

Webm related.
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>>380232502
Because madden is a fucking sports game. Until the NFL introduces jetpacks the game isn't gonna change much. Monster Hunting doesn't have rules and regulations so the devs can change whatever the hell want. I don't know why you nintentendies want rehashes so badly.
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>>380237636
You might have a point.
The FE tie in armor does look nice.
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>>380233496
>>380235987
>>380236142
>>380236225
>>380237494
>climbing is literally the only feature in Dragons Dogma and now any game which shares this single feature is LITERALLY the same game
Fucking kill yourselves.
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>>380237285
each gen usually adds one new mechanic. Here we have at least 4.
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>>380237391
False fallacies are fine but they're also a privilege and you have to deserve this leeway first. Your posts are just nonsense.
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DELETE THIS THREAD

THEN DELETE THIS GAME
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>>380232502
>implying the core gaming audience doesn't mock madden yearly and it holds even the slightest traction outside of ubercasuals who rarely play videogames
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>>380237779
This
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>>380237750
Those licenced armors shouldn't have fucking wigs. it's dumb.
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>>380237262
>anniversary game
>they got the entire a-list team to work on MH World

You're deluded and/or have no idea how Japanese anniversary titles work.
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>>380237106
>has quest marker trail system

truly back to the roots
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>>380237972
DOUBLE

CROSSED
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>>380237972
XX was the anniversary game tard
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>>380237696
>Because the gameplay is shit and positioning is less important.
Wait, so let me get this right...

>Gameplay is shit
How? They only add. They don't subtract. All hunts are completable without any of the extra shit too. The Core gameplay is still there.

>Positioning is less important
Depending on your skills I guess? Some skills might fuck you over or get you into a frame trap in the more recent games, while other require you to understand positioning to get the full effect of your weapon art.

I'm not seeing how the additive nature of the combat is hindering your ability to perfect your gameplay.

In fact it seems your only point of contention lies in the fact that someone who has spent less time getting to know the monster than you might have the potential to perform just as well as or even better than you - with presumably less effort

And I'll bet that makes you really fucking mad, doesn't it?
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>>380238007
Look around you. You are the first nigger not to notice the fireflies are highlighting resource points which don't stand out as much since the entire environment is detailed and not made for 240p 1996 hardware.
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>>380237696
I'm not disagreeing so much as saying that you can very easily optimise much more than being capable of predicting monster attacks and maximising the time you spend on attacking.
I mean, look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjTRdXhkT98
That's a legit, optimised hunt. But fairly boring.

And the loss of in game resources is minimal. A few materials that can be easily gained and gathered is not the end of the world.
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>>380238007
They somehow got the wrong roots and dug up Fable's I guess.
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>>380237686
Mate, I get what you're saying but I highly doubt a pack of jaggi reskins are gonna be that stronk.
The only conceivable use for stealth I can think of is to simply avoid a nuisance monster because you won't be able to blast through and load into a new zone, which is fine imo.
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>>380237972
>a team
a swear to god bb fan are the most stupid fucks with this shit .
It was an aniversary game thats why you revisited many older geenrations npcs and towns
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MONSTER HUNTER WORLD CONFIRMED MAINLINE

BAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>380237675
But now we'll get MH5 (eventually) *and* MH World. I don't see why that shouldn't be exciting. This is the most exciting time to be a Monster Hunter fan because we are getting a simultaneous release, a Monster Hunter that's not on a tiny screen with bad graphics. Literally everything that MH fans have been begging for ages now.
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>>380238138
And you're the second nigger.
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>Nintards complaining about grappling hook when their shitty game has the fucking meme insect glaive
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>>380238187
Well, im officially done with capcom, im pirating all of their shit from now on
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>>380238012
>>380238049
>>380238183
He was claiming that MH World was an anniversary title as well. Learn2read.
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>>380238238
Insect glaive is confirmed for worlds
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>>380238267
>MY GAME ISN'T NINTENSHIT EXCLUSIVE SO FUCK THAT COMPANY
So much salt
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>>380238115
I explained it and even put a webm in my post for dummies.

>>380237696
He is dodging but also has to consider the monster hitzones and position himself pretty much 100% perfectly which yields a challenge, satisfaction, fun. With that evasion arte on you would have just dodged to the side without giving a shit if the claw hits you or not. Basically Dark Souls.

Now all that's missing is Z-targeting.
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>>380238187
>yuri araujo
who?
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>>380238115
>How? They only add. They don't subtract. All hunts are completable without any of the extra shit too. The Core gameplay is still there.
Cheats also add but don't subtract. If it makes a core mechanic of a game trivial, it makes the game less of a challenge, like mounting in MH4.
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>>380238293
No i wasn't retard, i was saying that XX wasn't a mainline game, it was an anniversary game

learn2read retard.
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>>380238371
What rock do you live in anon?
Original creator of the first to fourth monster hunter unlike that xx outsourced shit
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>>380238187
Why do all those retards in this thread pretend those literally who American nu-males on Twitter matter?

Do we even have actual confirmation ALL the A team people work in this game or is it just some Twitter retard again who implied it?
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>>380236781
> haha le epic feminists btfo
jesus christ why did I even come on /v/ to talk about this game. If you can't see from the trailer that this is blatant casualization I really doubt you were a fan of this series in the first place.
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>>380232465
if this was a souls boss none of its attacks would matter and you wouldn't have to learn to position and evade the proper way because you can just roll through everything
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>>380238520
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Alright you fucks here's how it is.
First off, you're all making stupid ass assumptions about the gameplay despite the fact that we've literally only seen about 3 seconds of it.
For the faggots complaining about it being "scripted and cinematic", go watch the fucking Monster Hunter 4 trailer, it's the exact same fucking shit as World
Thirdly, the game has been confirmed to NOT be open worlds, but rather the same map-based quest system but with larger, seamless environments.
The one argument you dicks even have is the grappling hook, which does look fucking shit in what we've seen of it.

In short, kill you are self.
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>>380238520
It's okay baby, you'll be getting MHXX on your switch, don't worry, Nintendo's still alive, it'll be fine
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>>380238480
The capcom site names some big names.
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>>380232671
it plays very well though
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>>380238480

It's confirmed

http://www.capcom-unity.com/dubindoh/blog/2017/06/12/e3-2017-announcing-monster-hunter-world-releasing-globally-early-2018

>so join me, producer Ryozo Tsujimoto and directors Kaname Fujioka and Yuya Tokuda for a live chat about this new project straight from E3


Kaname is the head director.

It's over Nintenbros
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>>380227483
you sound like that superior limb based combat fgc faggot
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>>380238210
My mistake, I would have never thought to carve the dead Apanoth unless it was glowing. I mean, I haven't killed and carved other things before, and I have no desire to explore or learn my environment unless it's glowing like Las Vegas telling my diluted brain that it's not just part of the backdrop.

Kinda seems like if you can tell at a glance what can be interacted with or not on a tiny screen that's more detailed than anything bigger to me.
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>>380238605
>go watch the fucking Monster Hunter 4 trailer,
that was the tech demos you autist. the original MH4 trailer showed the enw weapons and plentiful monster.
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>>380238367
>With that evasion arte on you would have just dodged to the side without giving a shit if the claw hits you or not.
You'd also be locked into an animation for a while, preventing speedy follow ups.

There is still value in positioning, but the arts make it possible to get out of instacart scenarios.

The evasion arts also make it so that stuff like brave and adept aren't absolutely the only option for fighting and allow you to go for other skills instead of evasion or evade distance. It promotes skill diversity and keeps other non dodge styles relevant.
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We already got our new Monster Hunter game.
It's just that, they gave it another name.
They called it Final Fantasy XV.
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>>380238709
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

DELETE THIS
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>>380238885
This bait is getting crazy, man, but you can do even crazier than that
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>>380238709
So Capcom really has no good designers, the last ones left with Mikami and Kamiya. The MH team was just lucky with MH.

Now they ruin this franchise just like all their other franchises.

Good night.
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>>380238428
The question here is defining "trivial" in this case

It appears that anything that removed a bit of jank or bullshit is a trivializing element, so pardon me when I say it's pointless to use such a term so wildly.

Also, when you cheat you're bending the games rules to your whims. Thats an entirely different proposal than accessibility elements.
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>>380238885
The fishing spin-off is GOTY tho
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>>380236556
> spammable long range movement option and more mounting cancer isn't casualization
come on now
As for the trailer all the gameplay shown was pseudo QTE garbage, running around and monster fighting. There wasn't a single second of core monster hunter gameplay displayed. The entire focus is cinematic moments. compare it to something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msAqXJ2Xeq4 which is like almost every other monster hunter trailer in which they bullshit around with cinematic shots for the first half then cut to the core gameplay. The difference is glaringly obvious.
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>>380238797
My point still stands cucknugget.
Nothing we've been shown so far is any more or less "cinematic" than things shown in the past.
This trailer shows off new mechanics, new monsters and new environments just like the others.

So again, kill yourself cumdumpster.
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>>380238617
I have a ps4 and not a switch, I don't care about your stupid fucking console wars I care about the monster hunter series
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What baffles me the most is that this was a legit case of "my dad works at nintendo" Sorry for the ants size.
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How many franchises has capcom "killed" now?
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>>380239818
Its probably best not to count
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>>380234381
>because you don't own a ps4 and you are a bit mad that you won't be able to play it
>I have no fucking clue what the fuck I'm talking about and will reveal this in the first line of my post
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>>380239679
Bigger version here
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>>380239884
>calls it mh5
The leak is already wrong.
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>>380239679
>>380239884

Every single person who has ever played a Monster Hunter game could have called ALL of this, coincidence has just worked out (for the points that are known thus far)
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>>380227483
It's a spinoff, it's not MonHun5. Could be fun, I don't know, my main problem is : Is it a solo game ? For the moment, it just looks like a poor Horizon clone.
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The fact that people are still perpetuating the falsehood that MonHun World is open world just goes to show how little they've actually looked up about it. Do your research before you spout off bullshit, kids.
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>>380239931
Not this shit again, see
>>380238187
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>>380239995
see>>380238187
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>>380240048
But if he was a genuine leaker he'd know to call it Worlds.
This is as shitty of a leak as any other but you guys choose to believe it because it fuels your hateboners.
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>>380240126
The post was from pre-mhxx era, title changes to an unannounced game in development are extremely likely
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>>380238187
Wait for real? they're actually going to kill the series for this shit. It shouldn't surprise me from capcom but god damn it still hurts
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>>380240227
>damage controlling a flawed leak with excuses
You guys really are this desperate. A response like that wouldn't fly with any other leak.
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>>380239954

I think there are too many right claims to call it a coincidence.

>Predicts XX
>Predicts new installment by main team in specifically everything but switch
>Predicts it's going open world and casualization of the mechanics

It's clear he got legit info. The Game being called MH5 at the time was probably just a placeholder.
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>>380240126
Forgot to mention, I'm not hating it, I wanna see more of it before calling it casualized, the post said it was getting changed to be more acceptable for the west, and from the trailer that was damn right

I'm getting it and the nintendo ones, idort life is good
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>>380240083
Well, who is this guy ? Also, why didn't they call it MonHun 5...After, I don't care about the game's plateform, but for me, MonHun is a multiplayer game, and I'm impatient to see how it works.
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>>380240384
Except he didn't.
He got XX's name wrong, he got World's name wrong, and World isn't even open world.
Fuck outta here nigga
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>>380227483
that's the spirit of monster hunter people bought into in the first place

all the newfags joining in with tri or later (crying nintenbros) like the retarded direction it was going in

BASED MH DEVS
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>>380240593
>World isn't even open world
But it is
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>>380240671
I've played since FU and was disappointed when it moved to nintendo (especially the 3ds) and while I understand what you mean from an art and "feel" perspective the gameplay just doesn't look right to me. I really hope they keep the core gamplay intact because thats what has really kept me coming back to the series
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>>380240593

>He said cross cross instead of double cross so he clearly didn't know what he was talking about

>World isn't even open world. Instead it certainly is compared to what MH has been doing till now.

Come on anon.
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>>380240720
But it isn't. refer to >>380238605
This point towards it still being map-based but with larger seamless worlds.
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>>380240935
the devs are based

I personally liked what they tried to do with tri and it looks like they're keeping it going

I would welcome a less pinata monster hunter, but I actually think they'll keep combat mostly the way it is, maybe with more events like mounting

I say that because they've never radically departed from the formula and there is no reason to
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>>380240970
Leak BTFO again.
Yet all the faggots desperately wanting the game to be bad will continue to parrot it.
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>>380240569
It isn't single player

In the trailer, by the end of the fight and when the hunter uses the flare, you can see other hunters arriving by air
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>>380228919
>those ultra-tight hitboxes
God damn, I loved 4U
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>>380241195
I was never a fan of mounting, really hope they don't overdo that aspect. The reason i'm worried is because every other big MH trailer has always come back to some of the core gameplay at the end while this one avoids it completely (the one exception is 4 but that was a tech demo). Makes it look like they're going for the horizon zero dawn audience to me, but I hope i'm wrong and the trailer was just cinematic to generate hype
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>>380241195
>>380241507
oh and also agreed on tri, that game had the most authetic "hunt" feeling in the series
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>nintenbabbies are mad because they get shitty port instead of the real game
>sonyfags are mad because it's not their exclusive
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>>380239179
>It appears that anything that removed a bit of jank or bullshit is a trivializing element, so pardon me when I say it's pointless to use such a term so wildly.
Removing janks or bullshit is fixing the awful hitboxes pre third gen. Does it make the game easier?Yes. Do people give a lot of shit for it?No.
Giving you Spider-Man powers in a fucking MonHun game is on another fucking leel.

>Also, when you cheat you're bending the games rules to your whims. Thats an entirely different proposal than accessibility elements.
Same as using exploits or headlocking.
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>>380229049
>/v/intendo hates game that's on every system but Nintendo's
woah...
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>>380239179
but the "jank" of monster hunter's combat is what makes it both difficult and satisfying. If you streamline it too much you ruin the experience, which is why adept and brave styles were cancer
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>>380231006
4U was 60FPS.
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>>380227483
Kek.

Played Monster Hunter on PS2 and have been legitimately surprised that every new MH is the same shit.

Decide to go look at the new game while reading this thread.

It looks way fucking better.
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>>380241507
>goes back to the gameplay
I'm quite sure they won't have the entire crafting system intact for you only to use your shit briefly

that said, it's probably missing because it's a new engine, and because they want to appeal to westerners with the trailer, who probably don't want to see how under powered their character is

my only fear is like what others are saying, and that's going in the opposite direction too far from the cuhrazy mhs and casualizing or "eventing" too much

I personally didn't like mounting that much, or at least I think it should be toned WAY down to like once per fight

like why the fuck can you topple tetsucabra?
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>>380242101
Indeed, we can hide in grass now and climb like in BotW, Dragon's Dogma, SotC etc. before which is totally challenging and fits the tight MH gameplay.
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>>380242093
Technically yes, but in practice no.
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>like DMC, they rape the franchise
>like Dead Rising, they rape the franchise
>like MH, ...

Surprised it has taken this long. Goodnight sweet prince.
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>>380242208
it does and hiding used to be an advertised feature before they stopped caring about the "hunting" aspect

tri attempted to reintroduce some features and this looks like it's furthering that

what did you think crawling was for you little bitch? you only start playing after it came to your babby systems?
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>>380242367
XX still exists, you know. If only NOW is the franchise raped for you, XX should be fine for you.
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>>380230491
See >>380228919
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>>380242208
To play devils advocate on this one, It could just be to let you sneak up on mosters for the first strike which wouldn't take away from the core fight and would only really add some extra immersion
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>>380242367
monster hunter has been going downhill since they started going overboard with cuhrazy shit
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>>380242508
I didn't like X, i'm not into the anime abilities they introduced or the nostalgia pandering.

I was considering it to be a spin-off though so didn't irk me too badly. This on the other hand is clearly a gutting of the core gameplay that makes the series great.
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>>380242684
That is, the last game, Generations. 4U was the peak
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>>380242751
Oh, is there a trailer of the gameplay I haven't seen yet? Please link the video of someone playing the game where you got your information from.
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>>380227483
Removing clunky mechanics and retarded drop chances on certain monster parts will make game playable for non autists who don't have time to grind for thousands of hours.
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>>380242314
>play singleplayer without palicos on n3ds
>stable 60
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>>380242901
>charge blade
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>>380242901
Debatable, mounting was already pushing it. I would say 3U or FU are both better contenders
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>>380242947
>drop chances
one of the best parts of monster hunter that has already been getting nerfed retard

there is nothing left to chase anymore
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>>380242932
There isn't. He like everyone else is making brash assumptions.
There was a five minute gameplay video that showed off environmental stuff, but it was taken down by capcom.
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>>380242947
If you're a good player you make the best of what you have.
Only autists care about min-maxing in MH.
Only autists who can't get git gud complain about the self-imposed grind.
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>>380243205
Oh no, you'll have to play the game for the gameplay now!
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>>380243490
>you should just kill the monster to unlock it's set
>you didn't play the game if you were missing that one piece
kill yourself
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>>380243205
Grinding isn't good if it's based on a 1% chance dice roll. Any other fanbase would call that padding.
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>>380243693
>once you defeat a challenge you get the rewards for succeeding at that task
Yes, that is how the majority of videogames work.
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>>380243912
Padding is all MonHun has had for ages. Half it's fans judge the games based on how many pointless identical things it has. Watch them complain because actual fucking graphics means it only has a normal game's worth of content.
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>>380244167
Because obviously having next gen graphics means there will not be any monster recolor
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>>380244332
Oh, no, I'm under no illusions as to that. But there'll probably be less base monster models and the first place, less armor, weapons, etc.
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>>380244053
>the challenge is killing a single monster
kill yourself
>>380243912
I don't think it's ever been 1% and there have always been ways to increase your success rate. And this retard thinks rarity is bad
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