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AHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>380222641
Why two options for no?
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>>380222641
What happened?
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>>380222641
ok
i don't know if you are doing any favors tho
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>>380222641
His apology on-stage was the worst PR decision ever

If only a minority of people have heard about your scandal, don't announce your scandal publicly in order to apologise for it.
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>>380222962
Balance of privileges. Educate yourself.
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>>380223106
What scandal?
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>>380223106

After all these years and some dumb shits still don't know to NEVER apologize to leftists for anything.

All their problems are made up bullshit anyway, so they have a reason to bitch and a purpose to live, so they can be disregarded without regret.
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>mfw the most exciting thing about e3 2017 was some politically charged indie game drama

make this ride stop
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Who is this and why should I give a shit.
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>>380223106
>not generating attention for your indie game by miring it in controversy
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buy what from who?

no seriously, what the hell is this?
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what did he even say?
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>>380223271
Openly disagreeing with feminism
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>>380223530
http://store.steampowered.com/app/612400/The_Last_Night/
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Guy made a few comments against feminism.
Feminists started a witch hunt against him.

He apologized on stage before giving a speech about his game. And i think it was the best move, would be shit to get booed in front of all your public just for a few retarded bitches and a bunch of white knights.
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>>380223696
wat
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>>380223106
I actually think he legimately just doesn't hold those opinions anywmore, he hadn't tweeted about GG or that stuff in years and the summary on the steam page doesn't match the alleged original concept at all

Even if he does, he still has to suck up to not get dropped by his publlisher and xbox
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>>380223835
What a pussy.
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>>380223835

These feral leftist retards will hate him no matter what. They're cultists, they want you to apologize, and put yourself at their mercy so they can abuse you into being a good little slave.
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>>380222641
>4.684
>.
yurobeens get out
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>>380223696
no he wasn't, he just criticized feminists like anita sarkeesian who says that all cultures are anti-feminist and sexist, when he's from France where masculinity is frowned upon
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>triggered some dumb cunts
>scandal

and I thought it was something serious
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What a cuck.
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>>380223747
oh that game.
yeah, looks neat. ill probably buy it.
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>>380224416
It never really is
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It sounds like he actually grew up and admitted he was an idiot. There is no reason to make a vendetta out of this.
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>>380224474
yeah looks pretty. i'm interested in it
sadly so is the internet autism machine
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>>380224685
kys neogaf cunt, he did nothing worth apologizing over.
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Do these people understand the irony of implementing groupthink onto a developer and the fact that he is making a game about lefties who created a distopia?
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>>380222641
Oh, who fucking cares? Seriously, this ultra-political atmosphere for video games and personalities is repulsive. So a guy made some tweets on his beliefs, who gives a shit? Let him make his sci fi game and if it's a good game, the market should speak for him. The fact that he seems to be going for an ultra-liberal-turned-social-conservative backdrop for his oppressive cyberpunk world is unique, so why not just let him give it a try?

This is just going to politicise this game when all it should stand as is a product of its own design and production quality.
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>>380223106
I couldn't even understand what he was saying anyways, his frog accent was worse than the Ubisoft CEO
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>>380223835

Except apologizing to these kinds of people will never accomplish anything but inform them that they have power over you.

They'll still be mad at you, they still won't buy your product, and they'll still tell other people that you're awful.
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>>380224776
this
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>>380223106
wat? is there a link to this?
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I don't get how his version of cyberpunk works
If left wing political correctness takes over, then we get socialism that forces people to share the same equal wage along with government run production means no competition which means there wouldn't be flying cars as they wouldn't be necessary for the government
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>>380224776
He made dumb remarks that put his game and his team in an unfavorable spotlight.

/pol/ edgelords might not think it's worth apologizing over, but the adults in the room, including him, disagree.
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>>380223106
some MS roastie complained about his tweets
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>>380225152
which of his remarks were dumb
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>>380225152
Dam what a world where we can't speak our opinions on things without someone labeling us as some kind of misogynist or some shit!

Sure is adult.
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>>380224901
this desu

never apologise to these people, it's like blood in the water
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>>380225148
he said that he didn't like the way modern feminism uses shame tactics and sometimes violence to get their point across
he himself is an egalitarian
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>>380223271
Exactly
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>>380225419

The ones that offended eternally butt blasted leftist faggots.
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>don't wholly and automatically agree with the opinion of every single person who identifies as a feminist
>you must hate women

Nah, just /pol/ being sensitive, this witch hunter over the last 24 hours was nothing to get annoyed at.
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>>380224270
He's an egalitarian, and SJWs are triggered by that because it implies feminism isn't (which it isn't)
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>>380225445
>"Why can't I air out my paranoid misogynistic manbaby fantasies without people calling me a """""""misogynist"""""""""?????????????"
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>>380224472
He's not wrong though
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Thats like one of the ten commandments of dealing with postmodernists, NEVER APOLOGISE.
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>>380224472
Wow. This is just a considerate opinion, laid in very polite fashion. How can anyone sperg over this, to the point where the author is forced to apologize?

Good I'm Eastern Europoor, so I don't have to deal with it on daily basis.
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>>380225152
>>380225727
HOW DARE HE MODERATELY DISAGREE WITH ANITA SARKESIAN IN THE MOST TAME WAY POSSIBLE
>>380224472
THAT'S NEOGAF BAN MISTER
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>>380225592
>>380225674
what a disgusting sexist bigot
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>>380224776
Aren't those autists up to like 60 some pages of sperging out by now?
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>>380225727

You dumb niggers are hopeless.

Choke on a big veiny cock, you whiny poof.
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>>380225754
he voiced his opinion poorly
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>>380225532
>>380225747
I agree but dude probably had his livelihood and the people who work for him at risk over it
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Why do Amerifats ruin everything?
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>>380225889
What's wrong here?
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>>380223106
give them an inch they take your kidneys
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>>380225959
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>>380225959
GOOBLE GABBAL
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>>380225915

>why do neo-bolsheviks ruin everything

Fixed that for you.
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>>380223271
He hurt Zoe Quinn's fee fees.
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>>380226103

It's fucking hilarious how these retards are merely proving the point he was trying to make.

Pure pottery.
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>>380226128
I wanna believe she thinks he's trolling her with that
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>>380226128
lol
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>>380226103
ah duckroll the pedo, just the person i want as a moral compass
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>>380225727
nu-/v/ everyone
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It's just all so tiring.
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>>380226103
>>380226090
Yeah? I'm not seeing it.
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>>380225889
>>380226090
GOOBERGATERS WILL ACTUALLY DEFEND THIS
HE ACTUALLY WANTED PERMISSION TO USE VIVIAN JAMES LMAO
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When will Western games not be rife with politics?
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>>380226103
>Luxury purchases
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>>380226371
GOOBAL GABBAL!!!!!
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>>380226371

Because there's nothing there to be upset about. The people who do get upset about this are delusional, disconnected from reality, unhinged, loony.
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>>380226386
yes, this is what the gamers are dead cacophony did
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>>380225674
isn't that the stupid bitch that decided to moonlight as a prostitute while working at nintendo of all places?
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>>380225793

lmao, fucking commies, deep down they understand that they only rage because of boredom
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>>380226402
When Western society is no longer hyper polarized. That will not happen until after the civil wars or balkanizations happen.
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>>380222641
What happened?
What did my fellow frog do?
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>>380225148
Did you not take hipster-indie design 110? Here are a few key points from last weeks lecture slides.

All cyberpunk media must include flying cars, specifically designed to invoke nostagia for Blade Runner even though you were born years after it's production.

Neon is the future. Cyberpunk with LEDs? Are you stupid or just a moron. CRTs, holograms or screens made of a single pane of glass. You're choice as they're all correct.

Rain, Rain, Rain.

Basically make your version of Blade Runner, but change enough to where you can say it "inspired" you.

Next weeks lecture will be on how easy it is to insert diversity into historically-based works. Remember it's not a proper period piece unless you get Alt-Right nazis bitching at you.
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>>380226323
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>>380226497
not many people have the time or money to play games which makes it a luxury
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>>380226571
no that's anita's boyfriend (female)
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>>380226128
i don't get it
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>>380222641
how long until xhe deletes xer poll
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>>380226326

jesus christ
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>>380226103
>>380226502
ONE OF US ONE OF US
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>>380226338
Agreed. Liberals just never let up on their bullshit. How they have the time and energy to complain about literally everything is beyond me...
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>>380225674
>Austin Walker retweeted
I seriously hate that guy more than life itself. What a thin-skinned pussy.
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>>380225021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dp2lugYT70
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SJW tears are the best advertising that money can buy

Shame his publisher is fucking retarded, though
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>>380226670

If they stopped being worthless lefties and got jobs instead of soaking in the neetbux while bitching about oppression on the internet from the comfort of their parents home, maybe we wouldn't have to put up with them being insufferable faggots all the time, because they wouldn't exist.
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>>380226785
Oh my...
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the feral sjws were ready to pounce on it at our site til the eic shut them down
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as always the controversy makes people more aware of the game and people more likely to purchase it
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>>380226757
>zoe stirs up all this bullshit after finding out a guy who didn't like her was making a successful video game
>notch, creator of minecraft, calls her a cunt on twitter
>zoe and her beta knights flip their shit
>one says "wow some game dev should stand up to that bully notch!"
>zoe responds in the pic.
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>>380226103
>MUH EGALITARIANISM!

So SJW pozzies vs SJW pozzie infighting.
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>showing a world where the literal nazis won is okay
>showing a world where feminists won isnt

Is this feminist privilege?
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>>380226834
man that's rough, poor bastard
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>>380226665
>>380226323
Who is this man, and why does he look like a gayer Filthy Frank
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>>380227000

It's just irony, and feminists are too stupid to realize they're being roundly mocked and ridiculed. Only they take themselves seriously.
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>>380226128
i wonder why zoe could be stirring up so much drama...

hmmm.... :^)
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>>380227000
trips confirm it
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>>380226326
No way that's real. Too many rusemen on this site for that to be genuine.
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>>380227104

Can you find out how many copies she ordered?

I bet her publisher will drop her soon and then she will cry muh soggy knee.
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>>380227104
nah she's just crazy
think back to the five fun guys shitstorm
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>>380227104
didn't she come out as a tranny a few months ago when her patreon started drying up?
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>pussies out and apologises
>SJWs still hate him after three years because that's how they are
>people who got interested because of the anti-far-left sentiment will ignore it because he removed it from the game altogether
smart.
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>>380227104
>Crash Override
Is she zero cool.
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>>380226971
oh that makes sense.
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>>380226834
>manlet
ah, now it all makes sense
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>>380226883
>SJW tears are the best advertising that money can buy
Want to end up like Palmer?

They even added a segment on his wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmer_Luckey
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Guys, the game is SAFE to buy, it will have no regressive ideas!
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>>380227270

Yeah I'm worried he will compromise the core premise of the game itself to get some good boy points back.

He fucked himself by apologizing, he should have ignored these idiots like a man.
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>Yes
>No
>No
>No
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>>380227223
She's ridden controversy and tech media who are hungry for material that validates their beliefs to make a living for years now. She may be crazy, but she also knows what she is doing.
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>>380227373

Yup.

The only thing from E3 that interested me, and it's already in the landfill.

Fuck video games, I guess, but fuck leftists more.
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>>380226271

heh if only
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>>380224416
Thus is the perpetual motion internet shit posting device . Where dumb trolling nerds shitpost and troll an specific dumb person or thing they dislike as if it were for something grander than self satisfaction.


For fags claiming to not want politics in others or specifically their faces they really like to politicize shit. Mainly cause of all the faggy projection they project onto others things to trigger their faggy as victim complexes.
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>>380227223
>you will never be so conceited that you legitimately believe a glib reference to a famous political scandal in a children's roleplaying game is actually a personal attack on you

twitter was a mistake
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>>380224709
can't wait for the "GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW" thread
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>>380227560
doubt
she's not a genius she just has friends with pull
no one is going to buy her book over this guy's tweets. they'd just get him fired and blacklisted.
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>>380227336
>random no name devs cancelled their shitty shovelware games on a platform that was doomed to fail from the start

OK, SJW tears are good advertising for any product that isn't obscenely overpriced
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>>380223835
But leftists still hate him as the OP shows.
All he achieved is turning away the people who got interested because of his stance in the first place.
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>>380227567
i want to go back
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>>380227104
>gamegate wasn't about attacking women
Yet, here we are again!?
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>>380227373
What the fuck is this nigga saying? This shit makes no sense.
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>>380227605
>twitter was a mistake

Not really.

Twitter has allowed idiots everywhere to out themselves as the idiots we've always suspected them to be.
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>>380227769
xe's agender now, so it's OK to attack xir
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>>380224709
What the fuck is that website?
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>>380227772
??

What is so hard to understand?
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Are you guys still hung up on this stuff? I assure you the mental anguish you guys feel is nothing compared to what they feel for Trump - whom they believe is a Russian Nazi spy who is planning their extermination.
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>>380227769

What, miles away from literally who laughing about nothing?
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>>380227881
it's called steam
it was invented by gabe to sell colorful hats to children
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>>380227567
>All left thinkers are regressives.
>M-muh "us or them" mentality.
People like you give extremists validity, retard.
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>>380227769
which attack would that be?
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>>380227769

Gamergate was tied all the way back to DARPA.

No one here probably remembers those brainstorm threads on /v/ and /pol/. Gamergate was the birth of weaponized autism.

Now feminazies and leftists everywhere refer to it as their own personal holocaust, and the eternal justification for all the ridiculous bullshit they do.
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>>380227965
>not being extreme
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>>380227402
He already did. Where the game's original description said that the game's setting is a result of progressivism spiralling out of control, now it's some generic shit about AI outperforming men.
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>>380227605
on the surface of it it does look like someone at Nintendo's having fun at her expense.
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>>380223106
It told me he's a sellout and I won't be buying his game.
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>>380227373
This is why normal people should never tie their name to politics.
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>>380227260
Yep. They even went and changed every pronoun on her wikipedia page to "they" now.
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>>380227772
He's saying the game isn't promoting regressive ideals, sneakily leaving out whether or not it's promoting progressive ideals
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>>380228039

Yeah but that's a description, I mean him going back into the game and redeveloping it to appease these hyenas.
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>>380226402
You already know the answer to that.
First, you kill the leftists starting this crap.
Second, you kill the leftist professors and other extra evil Jews like Bonnie Ruberg who taught them to act like this in the first place. Actually, kill the Jews in general to eliminate a decent chunk of the corporate cancer while you're at it. Whether it's Ruberg pushing politics, Kotick being anti-fun, or Avi Arad whispering sweet Hollywood nothings in Kojima's ear, they've all been pure fucking cancer to video games.
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>>380228118

When the college loan bubble finally pops, all this shit will get flushed down the toilet and into the septic tank where it belongs.
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>>380228039
The screenshot is up thread and it's specifically about UBI. So they've replaced that for the cause of the UBI, since assmads scouring every trace of the game and the person probably seized upon it be mad.
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>>380228039
Changing the description on Steam to a more neutral sounding one has fuckall to do with the game itself

You know that, right
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>>380228118
>First, you kill the leftists starting this crap.
I didn't know 8chubbies were here. Go back to your edgy containment site.
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can we all agree to call this a historical example of McCarthyism in the video game industry in our life times?

gg was right
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>>380228118
>First, you kill the leftists starting this crap.

>literally inciting extreme violence

BUT IT'S ABOUT
ETHICS
IN
GAMING
JOURNALISM
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>>380225889
so what, we say stupid shit, even artist do the same thing yet they get followers even if people bring old stuff everyone else have forgot, just watch furfag artists.
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Do platforms that let you sell indie games force you to put your real name and info publicly? I understand this guy's doing E3 appearances and all but it seems like so much trouble could be avoided by just being anonymous behind an alias.
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>>380228287

/pol/ is the fastest moving most popular board on 4chan, you're in the minority.

Go back to rebbit, faggot.
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>>380228286
There's no reason to believe the new description is lying.
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>>380228287
I think you're confusing /8/autism with /pol/, are you new?
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>>380228329
please point out where gamegate was mentioned
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>>380228286
It's not neutral. It's just vaguer.
I don't even know how you make that "neutral."
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>>380228392

Do like Buckethead, create an alternate persona instead of merely trying to stay anonymous.
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>>380228392
You can remain pseudo-anonymous on Steam. You can hide behind your company account all your like.
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>>380228413
Who said it's lying? The description didn't do a 180 or anything, it just omitted a detail.
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>>380228484

Neutral meaning, feral leftists won't go rabid over it.
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>>380222641
It's almost like nobody has learned anything from Dragon's Crown.
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>>380228598
It completely changes the nature behind the problem.
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>>380228323
this shit has been going on long before GG, but it has mostly died down, and now we have a lot more people calling this bullshit out
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>>380228601
he had to write an entire medium post explaining that he doesn't actually hate universal basic income, which the gamejournos were very concerned about as talentless hack bloggers: https://medium.com/the-last-night-devblog/beyond-cyberpunk-71eacb8e8159
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>lefties and libs outraged over a piece of media that DARES to portray a completely valid end-result of universal basic income

Why is anybody surprised anymore? I wish Russia would nuke us. Anybody dares to portray any aspect of a liberal utopia in a poor light and they get publicly crucified for it.
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>>380227881
get the fuck out
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>>380228694

This.

As long as he only changed the Steam description, but left his original vision intact, whatever.

We won't know for certain until it comes out though, and even still we wont have anything to compare it to.
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>>380228601
Leftists shouldn't even support UBI. Its current incarnation is a liberal scheme to dismantle social programs and replace them with cash handouts.
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>>380228423
>/pol/
>Not a special brand of autism like /8/spergs
Tin foils hats, red pills and Trump memes. They're literally the same fucking thing.

>>380228403
>Having to use rebbit instead of reddit because you've hit your filter cap for the day.
Any like all the times before. Nobody is going to leave or take your memes seriously. You know that /pol/ is actually the punch meat board, right? Anytime users want easy reactions from triggered conservatives, we go practice over there.
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>>380227881
spotted the NeoGAF user
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>>380228761

They're both the victim and the oppressor, amazing.
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>>380228694
It changes the focus of the problem in the description itself. It's pretty clear they're both true. Shit isn't black-and-white, problems don't just have a singular underlying reason.
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>>380228323
naw you are just an projecting faggot throwing out accusations like if you were some sort of gay mind reading psychic faggot..

ya queer.
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I hate women so much
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>>380228329
Anon.
This isn't 2014 anymore
The commies and nazis are punching each other in the streets now. We all fantasize about bashing each other's heads in. Did you know the commies have even used Pepe as a shooting range target?
Ethics in gaming journalism? This shit is turning into a cold civil war.
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>>380228818
I think it you've never actually been to /8/v which is just autism video games. You could even say less /pol/-like since it's sort of like preaching the quire. They have more thoughtful discussion of more autistic games, because in general, they seem a lot more autistic.

If you think /8/v/ is like some weird /pol/ off-shoot you're probably believing what the media tells you and have no personal experience.
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>>380229014
As long as white people kill each other I'll be happy.
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thank you notch
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>>380228761
>Leigh Alexander
I totally forgot that cunt existed until today.
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>>380228761
This is one of the goober targets that really deserved to eat every ounce of shit she got.
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>>380227260
Yeah, xe has said that they aren't cis. Pic related.
>>380227769
xe does not identify as a woman. Check your priv, shitlard.
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>>380228329
Sweetie, it's okay to kill comies
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>>380226834
huh, where is the apology?
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>>380228234
I can't wait for that bubble to pop.
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>>380228783

Hilarious.

>>380228813

Want an analogy for universal basic income? Look at the food donation racket in Africa. Decades of free shit and they're no better for it, they're actually worse off than they were before. PLUS it's all compounded by their population boom, their population has risen 40% over the last 30 years. The few people who actually do know how to farm have to compete with free food.

It's a giant mouse trap.

>>380228818

/pol/ has been trolling /pol/ since it was /new/. The only people you're triggering are newfags.
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>>380229023
>preaching the quire
Now here's a diamond dozen if I ever saw one
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>>380227772
He's trying to atone for his sins without realizing that redemption isn't part of the Feminist religion.
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Why would anyone buy the game now that he stated publicly that feminism is retarded and later backpeddled to say feminism is awesome?
Now hes in no camp and annoyed both feminists and anti-feminists.
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>>380229198
m-muh spellchecker :<
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>>380229236
because I don't care either way
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>>380229149

When it does, hang on to your butt.
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>>380229168
>Want an analogy for universal basic income?
No, not really.
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>>380229103
If only everyone had millions of dollars and could speak their mind freely without fear of their livelihood being attacked. Can't get someone fired when they have enough money to not give a shit.
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>>380229281
it's a doggy dog world here on /V/, anon
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>>380227605
>Five Guys
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>>380229373

>want to exercise critical thinking?
No, not really.
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>>380229168
>UBI is exactly the same as funnelling """aid""" to african warlords
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>>380228286
Coupled up with the fact that he publicly apologized and said his old posts are not indicative of who his is today, it's a pretty surefire way to tell that the game was changed.

Look at what his Swedish publisher had to say about him:
>The comments Tim made in 2014 are certainly surprising and don’t fit the person we know, and we hope that everyone reading this who knows us at Raw Fury on a personal and professional level knows that we wouldn’t tolerate working with someone who portrays the caricature of Tim going around the internet right now
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The game's fuckin sexy. They have good taste.

Also
http://rawfury com/games/the-last-night/
>Humans first knew the era of survival. Then they knew the era of work. Now they live in the era of leisure. Machines have surpassed human labour not only in strength, but in precision, intellect, and creativity. Stabilised by universal income, people struggle to find their calling or identity, and define themselves by what they consume, rather than what they create.

>The Last Night immerses you in the everyday life of Charlie, a second-class citizen living in a city brimming with augmentation and citizens living a gamified existence — none of which Charlie can experience himself due to a childhood accident. Apathetic and disheartened by the seemingly pointless world around him, Charlie is presented with an opportunity to take matters into his own hands. But at what risk?

http://rawfury com/the-last-night-is-coming-to-xbox-one-and-pc/
>The Last Night is what we call post-cyberpunk – it’s not the kind of dystopia the genre is famous for, rather it depicts an alternate direction for society. One where the fight for survival doesn’t mean food and water, but a purpose for living. Human labour and creativity has been rendered obsolete by AI, so people are now defining themselves by what they consume, not what they create.

Now you know why they're assmad as all fuck. This guy already made a game criticizing something that is currently occuring in the first world, but he also tweeted wrongthing, which is a sin.
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is society ever going to move on from being so fucking worried about hurting peoples' feelings
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>>380229023
I'm not talking about /8v/. I'm talking about our /pol/ and their /pol/. You can literally find the same exact threads on both sites. There is a LOT of cross user base between the /pol/s despite claiming we're cuckchan.

You're not wrong, their discussion is better but that's probably because they have 1/1000th of the users we do.

>>380229103
>legbeads vs neckbeards.
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>>380229103
Ugh... bros... I just... I just can't... how can I tell my wife's kids that their favorite game is made by a racist?
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>>380224472
>not listing kreia, the most well written and absolutely beautiful character ever written in video games history
kys soret.
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>>380229469
>Want my uneducated opinion?
No, not really.
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>>380229556
>Swedish
it's always the fucking swedish.
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>>380229573
More sexyness
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>>380229573
Yeah the game looks amazing, did the developer really need the viral marketing from making political tweets/redactions?
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>>380227104
>450k in Germany
This is sad.
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>>380228761

oh yeah, leigh alexander exists
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>>380229556
>it's a pretty surefire way to tell that the game was changed
During three years? Yeah, no shit. After a small change to the Steam description? Hmm
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>>380229575
twitter snowflakes and neogaf neckbeards do not represent society, thank goodness
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>>380229575
No people can't take criticism. From sjw's ganging up on anyone who dares have a different opinion, to the president blocking anyone who criticize him on twitter, and everything in between. Humans are sensible beings, no matter how much we try to deny it by saying "just grow thicker skin". Everyone gets triggered by something.
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>>380229710
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>>380229575
see third reich and how that went
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>>380229575
Not unless we have a genuine species-wide crisis of survival, or the whole first world goes to shit some other way.
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>>380229365
Wtf I only knew Chmielarz from his blog about game design which is really smart and insightful.
Great guy.
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>>380229740
Probably not but some dumbasses have no common sense and invite identity politics into their lives as if it will somehow enrich them rather than make them irrational and paranoid.
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>>380229768
they're not sales, anon
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>>380229836
how much does it really take to replace a static string in a dictionary file with some new dialogue after it all got reviewed by the publisher?

I don't think they're "look, don't telling" a bunch of super abstract concepts like my personal subjective feelings about egalitarianism and progressivism.
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>>380229862
>From sjw's ganging up on anyone who dares have a different opinion, to the president blocking anyone who criticize him on twitter
These two are not the same.
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>>380229740
>did the developer really need the viral marketing from making political tweets/redactions?
no press is bad press when it comes to libshits freaking the fuck out over nothing.

>>380229867
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ok what is this?
who the fuck is this faggot and why should I care?
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>>380229575

Not until the first bomb drops
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>>380229975
>look, don't telling
fuck I'm drunk. "Show, don't tell"*
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>>380230012
Someone working on The Last Night.
You shouldn't care, but goobergate can't stay on 8gag.
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>>380229989
different magnitudes, but same concept. People get butthurt at other's disagreeing with them and act in order to spite the other person, however small or large that action is.
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>>380229975
Probably not much, and if you think it's that's inconsequential to the plot, why even care.
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>>380228051
On the surface of it it looks like Nintendo's making a fucking watergate reference, you dumbass
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>>380230002
was this the only decent looking game at e3?
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I'm not going to buy it.

But thats because theres no PS4 version
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>>380229862
>to the president blocking anyone who criticize him on twitter,

you mean the people that literally just spam fuck you everytime he tweets?
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>>380230012
>who the fuck is this faggot and why should I care?
he made a game(a sexy one if I do say so myself) and committed wrongthink so libshits are on the hunt, lookin for an e-lynching.

>>380230002
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>>380227104
>Hardcover only.
>No data for kindle versions.
Ch-ch-cherry picked. Fuck Zoe Quinn regardless. I wish those numbers were accurate.
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>>380230176
FUCK YOU
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This game looks insanely good, I hope he doesn't really compromise the story.
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>>380230071
he is one of the people working on the game "the last night"

4 years ago he made some posts that were critical of zoe and anita during gg

now zoe is screeching like a harpy on twitter about him and trying to hurt sales/get him fired/create controversy

also buy zoe's new book plz
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>>380230182
I'm sure the book is actually really popular, because people outside of niche Internet communities ever gave a shit about her.
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Can GamerGate morons leave, please? You got kicked off this board ages ago. Get back to your containment chan.
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>>380230170
metro looked good as well

>>380230178
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>>380230142
looks like made a five guys reference :^)
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>>380229740
What if he really cares aboout that shit?
Is he not allowed to care about it?
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>>380230176
He's blocked tons of people who don't swear or call him stupid shit like drumpf.
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>>380230142
well I'm not American so I don't know shit about watergate.
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>>380230124
It isn't the same concept. One situation is people ganging up on and trying to silence people they disagree with. The other is refusing to associate with someone you disagree with, to ignore them and not listen to them.
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>>380222641
>being that fucking dumb
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>>380230378
What does it say about him to contradict himself later? What does he care about really?
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>>380230379
proofs
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>>380230446
Serious question, what did he mean by this
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Is anybody else wondering why the fuck so many people openly support communism and post the hammer & sickle these days?

I'm reading the Gulag Archipelago and honestly I'd rather live in Nazi Germany than the USSR (unless I was Jewish, but Stalin started killing them too)
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>>380230446
I suppose his top is a living monument to the horrors of objectivistic capitalism then. :/
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>>380230547
Because virtually every single university/college professor is a communist.
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>>380230378
he's allowed to care, he just can't say it and he might have to actively lie about it. He also can't include it in his game.

He could also just give up his career. It's not censorship, it's not like the government is making him do anything, just corruption in the industry.
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It looks pretty interesting. But can you play it without having to degrade yourself to using W10?
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>>380223106
He was forced to by Microsoft, he's honestly lucky they didn't drop the game entirely.
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>>380229645
I love how you can take the man out of 4chan but you cant take the 4chan outta the man
I have no doubt that Notch is one of those anons that claim to be richfags
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>>380230547
>I went to school for art and gender studies, why do I have to work to pay off my debts? We should all have communism so I never have to work ever and I can spend all day drawing and blogging for the rest of my life!
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>>380230547
People are fucking retarded and believe the only other option to fight capitalism is with Communism.
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>>380230614
>lime
haha nigga I ain't reading shit from that tranny
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>>380229909
He's Polish so he hasn't been infected yet
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>>380230446
>Objectivism is bad
Oh man what a daring commentary!
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>>380230107
>using that term unironically
Tumblr lost an idiot, you should get back
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>>380230392
Protip: when fuckign ANYONE adds "-gate" to the end of a word, it's because of fucking watergate. Gamergate was named after watergate, thus the fucking "-gate". Watergate was a huge dumbass scandal, so now every huge dumbass scandal gets called "debategate" or "cheesegate" or "tumpgate" or what have you.
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>>380230409
both are results of not being able to take different opinions well though. The reactions are different, but the root of them are the same. If he truly didn't care he wouldn't have taken the time to block them. But instead he literally reads every single tweet he gets, and starts blocking anything remotely negative.

>>380230515
you can literally find tweets that caused him to block people using google. They varie from "Fuck Drumpf!" to people telling him they don't agree with his cabinet picks.
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>>380230630
Didn't learn anything from Notch did they?
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>>380230601
>be dirty chinkmonkey
>ancestors fled China to get away from communism
>CURRENT YEAR
>gaijin white piggus supports communism
Remind me again why white piggus are supporting a political view that has fucked people time and time again?
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>>380230801
>Watergate was a huge dumbass scandal
It was actually a pretty serious scandal that cost nixon the rest of his presidency.
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>>380230796
Don't get defensive. Reflect on why someone might call you goobergate and do better.
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>>380230902
because real communism has never been tried >:^)
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>>380230547
Because nazis are evil white cis males, and don't you forget it unless you want your grades to fail goy.
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>>380230801
I get the but what about the 5 guys bit?
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>>380230868
What does "take someone's opinions well" mean? If some idiot I disagree with on every level is pelting me with garbage, I don't have any obligation to continue listening to said garbage. You seem like you're just obsessed with equating both sides so you don't have to take one yourself.
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>>380230868
so no proof, got it
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>>380230525
I think the clapping indicates he wasn't being entirely serious. Just a hunch.
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>>380227605

Twitter, and all of social media, is a pretty stupid waste of time. 4chan as well, but at least there are no labels as all are anonymous.

It's just a cute reference to watergate. Nothing else.
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>>380230723
I haven't been able to figure out what they hate about capitalism. They may be confusing corporatism's overlap with capitalism, but doing away with private property because you don't like Comcast seems.... naive...
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>>380230493
It says more about the state of the industry, I would say.
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I don't know what these mother fuckers are talking about anymore.
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>>380231003
The world may never know.
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>>380231092
that's actually not what the clapping implies, whether he was serious or not. Typically it's used when _extra serious_ (by black women).
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>>380231092
Alright. I've honestly never understood exactly what brand of sarcasm the clapping is supposed to represent.
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>tfw people who defend social parasites
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>>380231191
it's almost certainly not an actual gg reference and an accident. It doesn't make it less funny and it obviously triggered Zoe since she brought it up. Pretty dank meme desu senpai.
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>>380230801
Huh, I thought they put gate after gamer as a reference to the gates of heaven
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>>380231026
Yeah, I hate both sides tbqh. Also learning to take someone's opinion well means not sperging out if they don't agree with you. I have no problem with him blocking dumb people who spam, but blocking people who just speak their mind without cursing, like adults seems childish.

>>380231031
Anon, I'm not going to make a screencap collage for something that would take you literally a few minutes to look up.
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>>380231191
well I learned something today.
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>>380227274
i get that reference.avengers
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>>380230902
Certain middle eastern areas have true communism. Where people born in that land are given an allowance from the oil rich government/prince.

China obviously doesn't have the resources to provide equal support for that many people, so they are communist in name only.
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>>380231339
I thought they called GamerGate, because they really hated GamersGate.
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>>380231347
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>>380231436
>GamersGate
I bet they're still super mad
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>>380222641
I noticed that a lot of these psycho "SJWs" are college women.

Seems like what they say about women's mentality is true.
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>>380231347
that's alright i'm just giving you a hard time m8
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>>380231436
that was kind of hilarious
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>>380230902
Because communism is the ultimate logical conclusion to the false premises of the enlightenment. It was made for, by, and appeals most towards western white people. Russia/Vietnam/China and the like mostly adopted it as an anti-western imperialism and (ironically) pro-nationalism thing.
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>>380231495
Some people spend all their time shitposting on a taiwanese knitting forum. What's your point?

>>380231569
Never fucking reply to me again unless you are contributing to the thread. ;^)
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>>380231003
Because 5 guys were wrapped up in the scandal.
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>>380231604
poor bastards
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>>380231604
Didn't the founder of that site quit because people kept harassing him and thinking he was Gamergate?
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>>380231347
There's nothing childish about that. You don't have a right to have your tweets be read anymore than you have the right to be friends with someone without their consent.
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>>380227104
Wasn't "crash override" the name of their chat where they bullied people who disagreed with them?
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>>380231654
At least here we talk about things other than how much we hate the president.
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>>380230170
>was this the only decent looking game at e3?
There was also Dragon Ball Fighting Z.
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>>380230801
Wouldn't it be called watergategate then?
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>>380231742
I think that was called /pol/.
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>>380231628
What? Communism was made by and for Jews.
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>>380227104
>that title
>those sales
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>>380231920
How dare you
/pol/ is a board of peace, inshallah you will be banned for spreading hate to your fellow anons
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>>380230956
Well, then a huge scandal caused by some dumbass mistakes, at least, but you're right.

>>380231003
Because the video game had five guys as part of the skit. believe it or not neither the presence of five people, or the phrase "five guys" are things that have only ever happened in one point in history. Do you seriously think that EVERY TIME there are five people in a room that at least one of them is laughing to themselves, thinking "oh yeah, we're making this reference happen, that'll show that bitch"?
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>>380227772
Read it from the bottom to the top you mongoloid.
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>>380231919
No
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>>380232043
I'll track down five loony anarchists as penance.
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>>380231774
It's starting to seem like you can't go into a thread anymore without someone bringing up politics and derailing it nowadays, so I don't know if that's really accurate anymore.
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>>380231654
My life doesn't revolve around what the president said on a social media site. They're in the same tier as losers who spend all of their time here. It's wasted on nothing of any constructive value.
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>>380231920
Infidel! /pol/ is a board of peace!
I will have your head if you speak blasphemy again!
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>>380231963
>being this dense
Karl Marx was not jewish
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>>380227208
you think gawker didn't have literal shills crawling all over this board at one point?
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>>380232292
I was actually referring mainly to the early Soviet leadership. Half their number were Jews even though they were a small part of the population. Based Stalin eventually purged them though. Many of them fled to Burgerland where they became Neoconservatives and continue to pursue Jewish interests under a very different ideology.
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>If the account belongs to a person, the name reflects the real or stage name of the person.

Why is quinn allowed to remain verified when her twitter display name doesn't come close to matching her real name
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>>380232251
I seriously doubt that most of the people shitting on Trump on twitter do that all day. You have to remember that a lot of people don't like him, and there's a difference between someone making a negative post or two about him a month, and someone shitting on him 24/7. But you're right that people whose lives revolve about Trump are pathetic.
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>>380228063
someone convinced him it was the right thing to do, should honestly show him support let him know he didn't have to apologize
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>>380232414
>where they became Neoconservatives and continue to pursue Jewish interests under a very different ideology
>he thinks token conservative imperialist corporatist zionism is different from trotskyism

oh boy
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>>380230182
Supposedly the Kindle sales were even worse.
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>>380230525
>>380231092
>>380231227
The claps actually mean he's making a super-serious demand. It's emphasis like ending every word with a period.

Seems to be a somewhat common habit among SJWs on Twitter.
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>>380232467
>most of
Hard to say, but there's a cottage industry of people that write up stupid shit to post the instant the orange posts a tweet, and those people are t he ones that get blocked and threaten lawsuits.
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>>380232516
True. Apologizing was a bad move on his part, but he's still our guy. We can at least show him more warmth than the cretins who rejected him after he acknowledged his mistakes.
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>>380231742
>>380231920
The Crash Override Network chat logs were leaks that basically verified a lot of the unverified conspiracies around contacting moderators and admins at various sites. Ian Michael Cheong verified it because he's an SJW turncoat who is actually in the chat logs, effectively narcing on himself: https://heatst.com/tech/chat-logs-expose-crash-override-network-as-online-bullies/
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>>380232732
please clap
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>>380232414
By that measure the nazis were a jewish movement as well.
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>>380232884
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>>380232732
I hate Twitter.
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>>380232926
Nowhere near as many Jews in their ranks.
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>>380232962
There's no one at that table that anyone should know about.
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>>380233039
>a strictly ethno-nationalist movement didn't have a leadership that was half foreign
woah really?
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>>380232732
I agree, faggots like this bitch, phil fish, ishmal rami, and literally who should not be allowed to release games. Also extend it to journalists.
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>>380226128
Ahahahaha
That's fucking poetry.
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>>380222641
I like how she responded to every reply with
>It's just a question
>Just answer the poll
>lol I didn't mean anything just asking a question
I don't understand why she's even trying to hide her stance considering it's right there.
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>>380226834
That's it? That's what everyone's talking about? That was like, 9 seconds.
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>>380233136
What argument are you trying to make? You are arguing against yourself at this point.
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>>380226654
>specifically designed to invoke nostagia for Blade Runner even though you were born years after it's production
>it's another "nostalgia means you grew up with it" post
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>>380232467
If you go to Trump's twitter page click a tweet and find a blue tick liberal you'll find that these people literally tweet trump 10-20 times a day
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>>380232732
CLAPPING TRIGGERS ME YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO USE FINGERSNAPPING ONLY REEEEEEEE
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>>380233214
positioning to play the innocent victim
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>>380233169
how did phil's vr blockout turn out
i'm too lazy to google its name or him tbqh
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>his twitter joke was about how feminism won
>his game is about how creativity is stifled
>feminists want to censor his game

If irony could kill, these fucking stupid motherfuckers would burst into flames around the globe.
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>>380233398
Yeah, probably because her poll got btfo. It'd just be her circlejerking with everyone if it was the other way around.
>Look at us NOT buying a game and you can't do anything about it, even if you try to make amends
So pointless.
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>>380232732
>The claps actually mean he's making a super-serious demand. It's emphasis like ending every word with a period.
I'm pretty sure I've seen people use it sarcastically too, which makes sense, but how am I supposed to distinguish between memers and people whose opinions cross the parody horizon
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>>380233278
I'm not arguing. kek.

I'm just being a smartass. I actually think Hitler was a little too soft.
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>>380232876
I feel kind of bad for Cheong. I remember when he was a turbofeminist lashing out at everyone, before he dropped the act and tried to go straight journo after burning bridges for years. It's like he can't find his place in the world anymore.
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>>380233978
A little? The cuck praised single mothers!
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>>380233853
I guess it comes down to the surrounding context and familiarizing yourself with the person who's saying it. Just like in most other cases of typed sarcasm on the internet.
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>>380228019
I remember the DARPA connection to common core and Bill Gate too.
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>>380233451
oh shit son, it came out and tons of people cared
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>>380234185
Sure. It's more effort than it's worth when it comes to random twitter screencaps of literally whos though.
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>>380234196
yes bill gates is zoe's real father and they designed common core to get kids to buy her fmv 'games' that never come out
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>>380233853
Poe's law has been in full effect since 2010. Everything is an attempt to troll you, until you point it out, at which time it becomes independent free speech that you're attempting to stifle. Nothing is real.
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>>380234115
Yeah, I'll never personally respect him because he seems like a sneak, and a spineless cuck for even being so deeply involved in the first place. I can appreciate his selflessness in the way he's made himself a huge target. I see gamejournos regularly, and openly talk about how much they _hate_ IMC. It's like they hate him more than some more well known OG GGers.
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>>380232732

Is that autism? Just imagine talking to someone clapping after every word just to make a point. Holy shit
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>>380234530
everyone hates a traitor and a snitch
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>>380234276
I will never get over the fact that his big VR game was "Hipster Hole-in-the-wall"
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>>380234613
It's board culture.
Think of it like using meme arrows.
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>>380234140
>A little? The cuck praised single mothers!
Yeah I do not in any way agree with everything he did. In my opinion a better style of National Socialism or Fascism for America would be a confederated one(because diversity is our greatest strenf after all) with a hearty Jacksonian bent.

Get yer ass ready for indian removal act 2.0: Taco Edition
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Whoever starts these shitstorms about these little indie games is a fucking genius. They always wind up generating positive buzz about the game in question, and even if the game always turns out to be "okay," tons of people buy it anyway
I want to read something in a history book 20 years from now about the minds that made us fight for these games' success over the years
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>>380234739

Are you sure? This is getting down the rabbit hole of parody. I'm reminded of people trying out shit from musicals thinking people will join with that clapping shit
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>>380234739
>y'all>ready>for>some>meme>arrows>up>in>dis>bitch

Am I doing it right?
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>>380231742
It's Zoe's "anti-harassment hotline and support group", which pretty much amounted to herself and her close friends futzing around in a private chatroom, talking shit about people they hate and deliberating how they can ruin them. She's trying to cultivate it into a personal brand, which is why she mentions it so often and named the book as such.

I can't believe it STILL has its own dedicated Wikipedia page...
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>>380234613
>Just imagine someone quoting you but with something you never actually said just to make a point
Yeah it's annoying
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>>380228329
>almost 3 years later leftist redditors are still salty
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>>380226386
Vivian a cute!!! A CUTE!!!
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>>380228329
we want to kill leftists BECAUSE they have no ethics!
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>>380235020
They've defined Crash Override Network article as a direct extension of Zoe Quinn the person and they have some fucking SJW editors guarding that article 24/7 claiming IMC's verification isn't enough because it's a "living biography" and not a normal organization.
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>>380235147
>????

She lets you smell her feet for $10
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>>380234991
>not time for some game theory
you had one job
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>>380222641
what happened

someone quick rundown

this game was the only interesting thing amongst the trash to be shown at E3
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>>380223106
>ever apologizing to left wing radicals
>admitting that they are right about you being racist/sexist/bigoted/other buzzwords etc.
worst mistake you can make
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>>380235351
>what happened
feminists
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>>380233398
pls /v/ is cancerous enough, keep that faggot out of here
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>>380234972
I don't know. Stupid people take Internet shit seriously offline. Look at the kekistani faggots from /pol/ or /b/'s anonymoose.
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>>380229575
there are no actual classic human problems here in murica so thats all that matters now
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>>380235351
you came just in time for september 2014 all over again.

you're gonna tell your grandkids about this
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>>380226654
You're a fucking moron. Cyberpunk originates in Neuromancer and is fundamentally a leftist genre because it is about the evil of corporations running amok.
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>>380235370
>expects a frenchie to hold his ground
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>>380234613
Black "people" do this a lot. I went to public school.
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>>380235632
neogaf plz
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>>380235529

I hated the cringy kekistan shit until I saw how they handled leftist extremists on their home turf of Portland.
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>>380223835
It's one of the rules of politics that you just never back down and apologize.

It might be completely shit in terms of discussion, but you can see from any politician who fucks up, admitting guilt just shows weakness for the opposition to strike. They're not gonna forgive you, they're not gonna respect your honesty or humbleness, they're just going to demolish you. It's depressing but it's true.
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>>380235370
>left wing radicals
It's hilarious you think anything even remotely outside your comfort zone is "radical". These guys are as centrist vanilla as they come, they just disagree with you a bit.
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>>380235745
>centrist vanilla
No they're not, not unless you're a hardocre communist
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>>380235745
>SJW isn't a form of extremism
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>>380235689
William Gibson is a huge liberal. Check out his twitter. The genre is literally about how capitalism is evil. Punk itself, as a musical genre, is a leftist genre as well.
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>>380235891
he probably is
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>>380226128
>*it's a hologram*
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>>380235745
>postmodern marxists
>centrist as they come
end yourself
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>>380235914
that's retarded, and if William Gibson thinks his personal political opinions on how to avoid cyberpunk-like futures matter so much to the genre he's an idiot. By the way Neuromancer is pulpy trash for teenagers.
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>>380235914
cyberpunk is about how asian corporations are going to buy up your communities and turn the frogs into cyborgs
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>>380235891
That's what I mean. They're liberals, WELL within the overton window.
>>380235962
Heh, kid...sjws aren't extreme...i'm extreme.
>>380236025
>postmodern marxists
why
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>>380226828
they dont have a job and they live by leeching off their parents,whenever they arent smoking weed or sleeping they are complaining about something
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>>380235745

(((centrism))) only goes left.
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>>380235745
Well, they do try to get the people who voice thoughtcrimes fired, and doxx them in all the ways they can.
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>>380236079
You're not extreme, you're a child
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>>380236031
>that's retarded
I DISAGREE WITH IT SO IT'S RETARDED WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
>>380236131
Centrism is certainly retarded (I personally disagree with it), but it's also, you know, centrist.
>>380236160
That's not extreme anon.
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>>380236031
Neuromancer IS effectively the platonic cyberpunk piece. It's the first reference.

>Personal political opinion
The genre is literally, literally about how the lack of regulations allows corporations to take over the world and create a dystopian future. The genre is *rooted* in these ideas. That's what cyberpunk *is*.
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>>380236228
While it's true that's what it's rooted in, that doesn't mean you can't use it for your own ideals.
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>>380235745
from the left pole, every direction is radically right huh

idiot
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>>380236271
Okay, sure, you can take it in another direction but that's fucking weird. It's like someone taking a fundamentally right-wing genre and making it about socialism.
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>>380222641

I want to buy it just to support a Garbage Man, but unfortunately I also want to buy it because it looks good?

What the fuck do I do in this situation?

Also;

>stay away from /v/ and game journalism/news in general for about a year and a half

>Just plowing through my backlog

>Come back in the last couple of weeks

>Some dude is literally getting shat on by all and sundry and his companies are having to defend themselves because he said "I'm not a feminist, I'm into egalitarianism"

I was told SJW's/GamerGate was just a meme. What in the actual fuck is happening?

This is more askew than the movie industry.
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>>380236227
I mean it is retarded, an authors personal feelings doesn't limit or define it. That's like John Carmack telling us it stops being an FPS if you include RPG elements or something.

It's actually retarded. It's logically dumb and only a dumb person would think it's valid.
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>>380235432
>>380235596

so what relevance does a pixelated blade runner-esque cyberpunk sidescroller has to do with militant generation crybaby feminists

i need a quick rundown
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>>380227769
GamerGate was originally about the corruption in game journalism, with Zoe Quinn taking the highest spot because she slept with some guys for reviews, which is a really scummy thing to do. Also cheated on her boyfriend but that's unrelated.
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>I think feminists are a little censor-happy.
>NO WE'RE NOT DELETE THIS YOU'RE FIRED
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>>380236364
No you faggot SJWs are just milquetoast vanilla, just like your average conservative. I hate to say it anon, but maybe you're just not very knowledgeable about these things?
>>380236368
That's been done and also it's pretty normal.
>>380236371
Oh sure I agree with that. I thought you meant being a liberal was retarded.
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>>380223050

Some guy made a game that everyone thought looked really cool.

Turns out he's a bit wishy washy on his support for far left radical marxism.

Has to apologize, although no one can actually figure out what he's apologizing for. The publisher defended him and said they're sorry about whatever it is he said that seemed to make people angry, and they want everyone to know they like feminism too. Then microsoft said they didn't like his comments either.

Now some AAA company is saying that people should pirate his game because Literally Hitler.
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>>380236371
Not if Carmack baked his ideology into his genre and used it as the premise..
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>>380235745
>KILL ALL WHITE MALE CIS SCUM, MASH DA PATRIARCHY!!!"
>"we're not radicals" :^)

Nice try, leftypoz.
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>>380223106

I didn't even understand what he was trying to apologize for. I don't mean that I don't think he should have apologized, I mean that he didn't really make it clear what the hell he was actually meant to have done to upset people.
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>>380236635
Yeah, sounds about right. Liberals -- they haven't been radical since Napoleon.
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>>380236635
It's like fedora autism but they never grow up.
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>>380226338
>told myself I would just judge video games on their merit as a game when I saw the political shit heating up in 2014
>put up with so much neo-liberal progressive bullshit from all directions that I now strongly consider buying a pixel point-and-click indie game from a guy who might agree with me on a few things
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>>380236627
>William Gibson invented everything about cyberpunk
>I'm also retroactively drawing a bunch of political rules that didn't actually exist
Go argue with a film student because no one except them thinks this is a real discussion. It's a shitty excuse for SJWs to shit on the guy.

Also FPS are about satanism, it's baked in.
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>>380236763
Wow that's dumb.

Then again I've been put off buying this because I get second-hand cringe just from hearing about what he did (seriously it's gotta be embarrassing).
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>>380236794
You mean they're about punching Nazis.
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>>380224472

I mean, I'm a tolerant guy, but if that doesn't sound like Hitler addressing the faithful at Nuremburg, then I fear you need to spend less time on /pol/ and more time in the real world.

Literally sent chills down my spine. Think I'm gonna need a stiff drink.
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>>380236635
>god this shit reads like he thinks he's a fucking game of th--
>look at profile pic thumbnail more carefully

fucking poetry
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>>380229573
Nothing says CyberPUNK like conforming to social pressure!
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>>380236940
Nazi's love occult shit, according to Wolfenstein.
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>>380236794
FPS is a set of mechanics.
Cyberpunk is a setting. A setting whose premise - that the lack of governmental regulations will lead to evil corporations taking over the world and making it hell - is left wing propaganda.
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>>380236862
Yeah he probably shouldn't have apologized but can you blame him?
Not everyone can afford to stand up to this kind of bullshit, ya know?
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>>380237006
Well, it's true.
>>380237043
Doesn't matter whether I blame him, it's just painful to think about.
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>>380237028
Have you ever played Deus Ex by any chance?
The first one not HR or the sequel to HR.
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>>380222641

Honestly, there is NOTHING worse in this world than knowing that someone out there has slightly differing opinions to you. It's enough to make you contemplate suicide.

Anyway, no work of art has EVER been good when it was produced by people with unusual opinions or ways of seeing the world. It certainly can't help if they hold different political views and they might somehow seep into his art work. Literally anything any distance removed from beige and generic is what's ruining vidya and entertainment and culture in general. It's bad enough that some people expect to be challenged by mechanics, let alone content. Absolutely offensive. Will not buy.
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>>380235692
how did they?
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>>380237002
or backing the prevailing conservative narrative :^)
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>>380237028
>is left wing propaganda.
By no means.

I'm a socialist but even I know other ideologies (like Fascism) believe the same thing.
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>>380236862
It is pretty dumb, I'm just done fighting it
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>>380237028
The actual symptoms that make up a cyberpunk society could be caused by any number of things. Megacorps and "high tech, low-life" could as well be the result of over regulation of markets creating oligarchies of megacorps.

It's a retarded argument to say it's one very narrow definition. No one cares but film students I can't believe this is a real thing, only SJWs could take try to make this a "serious criticism", hilarious.

Everyone and their mothers will always considering The Last Night as cyberpunk as anything else no matter how many film students scream and cry.
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>>380237138
Nope.
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>>380237207
No. AAA is shit right now, with only a few exceptions.
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>>380237207
This is what final years of a generation look like. Notice how almost nothing big is announced for 19. It's coming
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>>380226103

Literally sounds like an interesting premise.

I'm not even memeing or /pol/ing.

What if you have a dystopia in which the "good guys" won?

Holy fuck. How can people get mad over that?

Goddamn, video games really are for children. This wouldn't even be controversial in Hollywood.
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>>380237207
nah that was the worst e3 in a long time
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>>380237239
It's good and contradicts your statement a great deal.

The story can take a while to ramp up and a lot of people don't make it past liberty island.
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>>380237232
>Megacorps and "high tech, low-life" could as well be the result of over regulation of markets creating oligarchies of megacorps.
How would progressive taxing benefit big corps rather than the other way around? All it would do is cost them more money.

>It's a retarded argument to say it's one very narrow definition. No one cares but film students I can't believe this is a real thing, only SJWs could take try to make this a "serious criticism", hilarious.
>Everyone and their mothers will always considering The Last Night as cyberpunk as anything else no matter how many film students scream and cry.
For the same reason retards consider any Victorian setting with steam technology steampunk. Lack of education.
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Man, if feminists and SJWs would be so persevering while looking for a job, unemployment would drop to all-times low
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>>380235596
>GG will be 3 years old in a few months
It feels like it happened yesterday. I want to go back to before it happened and stay there forever.
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>>380237482
Feminists and SJWs make up like 4% of the unemployment market.

When was the last time you spoke to a normal person off the internet?
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>>380237482
Being a conservative correlates with being uneducated and vice versa.
Education correlates with employment.
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>>380237480
>can't be caused by regulations because regulations = progressive taxing
you can't make this shit up.

Please go back to NeoGAF/IdleThumbs/Waypoint/GamerGhazi
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>>380237482
shouldn't they be fixing inequality in manual labour related fields and waste management etc?
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>>380237482
Complaining IS their job.

...I really wish that was a joke. The most radical SJWs I know actually get paid a fair amount to do "research" on toxic internet masculinity and why feminism will fix it.
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>>380237390

It's not a dystopia it just means the protagonist is kind of a crazy tone deaf asshole. It doesn't even make any sense. Robots do all the work so humanity just has no creative drive? What? He's a second class citizen in a world with no class system? Huh? Theres universal wealth and mankind is free to pursue whatever they want? This is bad?

Oh but its still full of neon lights and stormy skies because I TOTALLY GET CYBERPUNK ;)
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>>380235689

Look, I get that Neogaf is a shithole but he isn't wrong. Cyberpunk is anti-capitalist. It's about the juxtaposition of high (frequently unethical) technology and mega corporations and low life/abject poverty.

The genre quite simply does not work otherwise.
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>>380237621
Nice argument there m8
Progressive taxing is at the core of left-leaning economic schemes.
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>>380237621
Not him but strong regulations require a strong regulator, meaning you'd get strong nation-states, which isn't SO MUCH a thing in cyberpunk (but I get the feeling that's because in Neuromancer nation-states are almost Godly compared to any of the characters -- look how military tech is talked about).
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>>380232732

As long as we're on the road to Thought Police, can we please arrest people who write tweets in that format. Jesus christ it's visually offensive.
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>>380236368
So it's LITERALLY the diversity of ideas that the leftists have been claiming to champion for the past 5 years?

And that's a fucking problem now? I mean we all knew that premise was bullshit but it's just funny to see one come out and say it. "We want diversity as long as it's all the same". Fucking A.
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>>380237701
Welcome to philosophies you disagree with, anon.
>>
For a bunch of people so concerned with the "language of supremacy" and of "othering" people, it's funny to see them describe someone as "garbage".

>>380223835
>apologizing for having an opinion
Bad move, it just makes them 100x more determined to drive you out of physical existence. Always double down.
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>>380237591
Real education you mean.If youre an engineer or a doctor you´ll get a shitload of money and you´ll always have a job available,but we cant say the same of gender studies or psychology(not a shit job,but there are too many of those)
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>>380226128
Wew lad.
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>>380235370

It's not left or right.

Unless you genuinely believe you were wrong, you don't apologize. All it does is put blood in the water and then they (whoever it is attacking you) will seek further concessions.

If you were wrong, say so. If you don't think you were wrong, definitely do not apologize ("just to make them leave me alone").
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>>380237707
>It's about the juxtaposition of high (frequently unethical) technology and mega corporations and low life/abject poverty.
I saw a bunch of low life in the trailers. People on welfare (or UBI I guess) doesn't automatically mean no low-life. No organized crime, no vice, no debt, etc.

Cyberpunk is a setting, not a alternative timeline of earth.
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>>380237759
brb making a Dungeons&Dragons game about pacifism and befriending the goblins
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>>380227000
>feminists are LITERALLY NAZIS
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>>380237723
>Progressive taxing is at the core of left-leaning economic schemes.
I don't care, it just reveals how you don't actually care about cyberpunk. You're just using it as a shitty what to shit on a dev who has different political leanings than you.
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>>380222641
God damn, reading the Polygon article and comments on this "controversy" gave me cancer. Kuchera is such a disgusting fat cunt, it's unbelievable he's still employed.
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>>380237915
Undertale was a resounding failure, as everyone knows.
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>>380236372

He made some comments that his future dystopia might contain elements of a future world in which left wing ideology won out.

I mean, I'm not sure what the big controversy is or why this upsets people, but if you can't handle some minimal political satire in the background of your fucking platformer you need to grow up.
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>>380237915
Yeah it's not like an RPG where you didn't have to kill the enemies made huge waves in the gaming community over the past few years.
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>>380237976
shitty way*

disingenuous is a better word, too.
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>>380237759

>So it's LITERALLY the diversity of ideas that the leftists have been claiming to champion for the past 5 years?

I mean, not really. It's just that a critique of socialism/leftist ideology makes approximately zero sense in the context of cyberpunk as a genre.

How are you going to explain the rapid, unfettered technological expansion characteristic of a cyberpunk setting in a world where profit has ceased to serve as an incentive?
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>>380222641
Reminder that Zoe Quinn is a cunt
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>>380229645
oh this is the guy harry potter lady was talking about
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>>380238079
F A S C I S M

or even fucking nihilism

Other ideologies than socialism hate capital too.
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>>380237028

>that the lack of governmental regulations will lead to evil corporations taking over the world and making it hell

Settings don't have premises, AND that's not a prerequisite for cyber-punk.

Cyber-Punk for normies is more an aesthetic than a genre anyway.
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>>380237676
This reminds me of a documentary I saw on the "gender equality paradox."

It's fascinating. The most "gender equal" nation on earth, norway, has the largest gulf between the genders in occupation.

Construction, physical labor is still almost 90% or more men. No matter how you try to change the gender roles in society, people seem to stick to them. Almost like...maybe it's more than a social thing.
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>>380238158
>Cyber-Punk for normies is more an aesthetic than a genre anyway.
And it eats at me.
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>4 options in a yes/no poll
>3 of them are no
>The three combined can't make a third of the votes of yes
Point and laugh
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>>380237991
>>380238034
Undertale is not like Dungeons&Dragons and doesn't pretend to be like Dungeons&Dragons. Dungeons&Dragons is at its core about going about murdering things for fame and fortune.
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>>380238273
It's literally based around the RPG genre, which is itself founded entirely upon tabletop RPGs. You're full of shit.
>Dungeons&Dragons is at its core about going about murdering things for fame and fortune.
Yep, it is. But people can take that and make it their own.
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>>380238158
>Cyber-Punk for normies is more an aesthetic than a genre anyway.
That's what triggers me though.
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>>380237701

>It's not a dystopia

I mean, that's kind of the hook, right? That's the high concept. The catch.

A """"""dystopia"""""" in which the good guys won.

That's what makes it more interesting and unique than a """"""dystopia"""""" in which the bad guys won.

>This is bad?

Jesus, do you ever have access to cultural touchstones outside of children's video games?

The subject of over fulfillment, contentment and ensuing ennui has been the subject of countless works of art in all mediums for hundreds of years.

>I TOTALLY GET CYBERPUNK

There's nothing to get. He's adopting an aesthetic, not adapting some pre-existing work.

You're dense.
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>>380238230
>>380238361
t. liberal art students
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>>380238352
>It's literally based around the RPG genre, which is itself founded entirely upon tabletop RPGs. You're full of shit.
DotA is based on Warcraft 3 I guess that makes it an RTS.

>Yep, it is. But people can take that and make it their own.
Sure, just don't call it D&D-like/cyberpunk.
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>>380237676
I swear to god the exact same thing as in this image happened in a Judge Dredd comic I read years ago.
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>>380238079
But that's the POINT.

If you have to stay inside the lines clear cut you can't have that sweet diversity you claim to want. So it's not pure cyberpunk, it's cyberpunk derived. You wanna go REEEEEE at Steam about "Roguelike" titles or something now?
>>380238273
And? Undertale is LITERALLY marketed as "The RPG where you don't have to destroy everyone". AKA it subverts the gameplay of EVERY OTHER RPG where combat is the bread and butter. Explain to me how this is totally different from a tabletop RPG variant with the same method? If you made that D&D game and it was well made, it would be critically acclaimed.
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>>380224472
>bisexual
dropped hard, and I was so interested too
the dev and publishers should have kept their mouths shut and they'd have an indie hit
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>>380224472
This was his defense of something he said earlier. What did he originally say to upset people in 2014?
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>>380237915

Sure.

Why not? It would be, ya know, something different and unique?

You might actually have autism if you're this obsessed with all creative works mimicking exactly that which came before it.
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>>380238517
>everyone
anyone* my bad
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>>380238165
surprised the were allowed to release it, sound very problematic
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>>380238517
>You wanna go REEEEEE at Steam about "Roguelike" titles or something now?
Not them but YES.
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>>380225903
And apologizing is like shooting himself in the head. Doing so only raised the risk, because now the psychos have sensed weakness in him and the "controversy" is now something that will be plastered on every vidya blog/news site.

If he had simply ignored them, he would have been just fine. But now that he brought attention to it, everyone fucking knows. A figurative show of hands would very likely show that almost nobody fucking knew about his very sensible comments until the guy strangely apologized for something on stage in front of a big online audience.

The only way this could go well for him is if enough people basically come to buy his game and shit on the sjws who will go on the warpath against him on social media.
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>>380238651
Me too tbqh
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>>380238517

>So it's not pure cyberpunk, it's cyberpunk derived.

His idea isn't just a departure from the tenets of cyberpunk, it's antithetical to the core premise of the genre (and basic economics, I might add).

He can do whatever the fuck he wants but it still isn't going to make any sense.
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>>380238583
I'm obsessed with proper, useful genre classification. Make what you want. Don't present it as something it is not.
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>>380238230
>>380238361

Oh well?

There's more than enough fucking material out there to sate you to not have to worry about this one particular game doing something slightly different with the trappings of a genre you like.

Thank god you don't watch movies or read books, because it's a favorite occupation of theirs to constantly rewrite and undermine genres and their conventions.
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>>380231347
>i hate both sides
do you still argue with either of them or are you also too much of a pussy to have your viewpoints challenged?

if blocking someone - cutting off your argument in a fail safe way - for acting like a child in your replies is refusing to see their viewpoint, logically you're being closed-minded by breaking off discourse at any point at all instead of being in a constant state of bickering

surely you agree with this since you've reached a lot farther in this thread already
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>>380238079
>not seeing the potential for a bread-and-circuses, gilded-cage state of affairs in a story concerning a left-wing dystopia
read your brave new world
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All this talk about liberals this and liberals that and no one seems to realize that when liberalism and conservative-ism get involved with vidya its always bad.

Politics needs to stay out of games and out of /v/ it brings nothing but cancer.
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>>380238603
It's from 2011.
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>500 posts later
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>>380226828
>be me
>"all this political nonsense is getting ridiculous"
>share this opinion
>anon 1 replies: I agree
Finally, another person who is also tired of all his bullsh-
>anon 1: "Liberals just never let up on their bullshit"
Oh fuck you and fuck off.
>anon 2: "dont listen to him. I am on your side and agree with you"
Wow anon, thanks. Good to see other people tired of thi-
>anon 2: "right wings can never let go of anything"
Ohhh FUCK you too and go the fuck away.
What the fuck is wrong with everyone nowadays?
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>>380238724
that's just like, your opinion, man :^)

cyberpunk is whatever I want. Language is description, not prescriptive. Cyberpunk is an aesthetic now, nothing more, nothing less. Enjoy the word cyberpunk going forward and remember to clarify when talking about that stuffy old definition no one gives a fuck about.
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>>380224472
>is for basically everything feminists and SJW's want
>but feels Queen Anita and journalists are overdoing the hate a tad bit
>is now being eternally-ramrodded and petitioned-against as an evil Nazi

Far Cry 5 missed out on the real American Cult here, these people are just fucking creepy more than they are sad now. No wonder devs cater to them.
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>>380238143
this
control and dominance can be an incentive
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>>380238741

Did he self describe it as Cyber-Punk?

And again - Cyber-Punk is a VERY loose genre and often interchangeable with an aesthetic.

So it's really not a big deal.

>>380238724

>it's antithetical to the core premise of the genre (and basic economics, I might add).

I can't really say more than "no".
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>>380238869
he's a french living in france
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I'm a fairly liberal person but these controversies make me wish I wasn't. These far-left internet nutjobs give all liberals a bad name.
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>>380238798

The difference was that Jack Valenti and Tipper Gore never got inside the industry.

Otherwise it would be a nightmare scenario.
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>>380238431
Holy shit those unnecessary redit spacing
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>>380238838
politics on /v/ is a cancer through and through. Its all the normies that /pol/ attracted from the election. I can only imagine anyone not american is sick of amerifat politics invading everything.
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>>380238869
they wouldn't have the balls, they're cultists not artists
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>>380238724
He doesn't describe it as Cyberpunk though, he describes it as post cyberpunk. Hence if it was cyberpunk it would be antithetical to the description because it's literally not cyberpunk.
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>>380238987

They aren't nutjobs. They are the Liberal Center now.

Also you may as well stop using Liberal, since it's basically just synonymous with Leftist now, which is kind of weird, but oh well.
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>>380238754
>This is an Objectivist work it is about how you should give yourself to the greater good
>This is a Marxist work it is about how hoarding capital is good
>This is a Christian work it is about how God isn't real
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>>380237701

I take it you had issues with Brave New World's setting being popularly labeled a dystopia as well?
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>>380238856

>future is a leftist dystopia where everyone is languishing in a stupor borne of universal basic income
>but somehow we have robots and flying cars
>???????????
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>>380239071
yeah definitely not the outdated left wing politics being introduced to every game.

>b-but I said normie and talked like one of you guys

no one cares
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>>380239113
So what is the old moderate-left called now? Centrism?
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>>380238869
>Far Cry 5 missed out on the real American Cult here,
can you imagine a game where no one would try to kill you, just lock you in a room and nag you to death?
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>>380239059

It's called 4chan spacing and it was specifically designed by tripfags to get attention.

Lurk moar, my summer dude.
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>>380238987
classic liberals are considered literal nazis now, it's insanity and it's infecting fucking everything
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https://twitter.com/mombot/status/874533149216092160
Apparently the "MY FUTURE IS INSANE FEMINISM GONE WRONG" tweets may have been faked
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>>380239187
I dunno I haven't played it yet. I mean you could read that long as medium post if you care, it's super long. I certainly don't, I think the argument is pants on head retarded and entirely based in politically motivated disingenuous attacks.

Game looks cyberpunk as fuck and the existence of UBI does not exclude cyberpunk in the slightest. Stay mad.
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>>380239201
Is it a reddit or tumblr idea that people stay inside one board and never crossboard at all or what?

Shit I'm /pol/, I'm also /v/, /co/, /fit/, /ck/ and occasionally other boards. That's kinda the fucking point.
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>>380239236

I think they just refer to themselves as Moderates or Centrists or even Libertarians, but for some reason calling yourself a "Libertarian" now makes people get really mad at you.
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>>380239357
>may have
ok
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>>380239357
Then why did he apologize?
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>>380239114

They are philosophies and economic policies.

Not science fiction sub-genres and aesthetics.

Cyber-Punk is not an economic model or philosophy.
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>>380225148
I don't really know, but
>people get enough money just to survive
>anything above the most necessary things is far beyond the reach of those on basic income
>getting off basic income is virtually impossible because everything can be done by machines better than you in every way
>only way to get more paper is doing shady/illegal shit
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>>380239486
Probably because he represents a company, not just himself. And because he's a fucking idiot and doesn't know the first rule of politics.
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>>380239486
because the truth doesn't matter :^)
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>>380239438
I can't say for certain that they are fake but this is pretty damning
>>380239486
He apologized for his views of Gamergate that pissed SJWs off, not these tweets
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>>380239357

>Apologizing for tweets you never made

That's pretty Philip K. Dickian.
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>>380239407
That makes sense.

Honestly this constant internet politics shitstorm is incredibly tiring. Maybe I'll just become apolitical
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>>380239627
>I can't say for certain
Then don't say they have.
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>>380239241
>no one would try to kill you
>nag you to death
But Antifa is a thing.

Agendas-aside, if a game can feature fictional super-Christian hicks armed to the teeth with military weaponry up to rocket launchers, the same can go for super-Marxist tumblrdykes.
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>>380239667
>Maybe I'll just become apolitical
What good does that do? Everyone else will still be shitting up a storm. May as well pick a side and join in, it's fun.
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>>380239486

He identified as offensive.

Also "evidence" is a CIS White Male invention designed to prop up patriarchal power structures utilized to oppress majority-minorities.

What matters isn't what he said, but that I felt offended and uncompensated for my psycho-social damage.
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Open question to you guys, I favor a slow transition to socialist policies as wealth and automation increase, out of both necessity and the fact that these policies are essentially what we're 'purchasing' as a species, but I don't want communism. Even in a 99% unemployment scenario I would favor allowing the hardworking and industrious to amass relative wealth on a merit system.

I understand that the weakness of this ideal is the power of government to define merit and distribute most goods and resources, however I don't consider this a fatal weakness and rather something that can be countered with ingenuity on a societal level during a slow transition to a semi-resource independent society.

Until then, I favor a generally tempered free market.

Am I some sort of communist enemy, am I the leftist threat?

Also I hate Pajeets.
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>>380239729
evamom and broteam and good track records for legit leaks like this. They would know, but I haven't look personally. I just recognize these people.
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>>380239821
i don't know but i also hate Pajeets so high five my friend
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>>380239667

I'm not apolitical but I pretend to be IRL because it's not worth the headaches.

I just add "What if?" or "It's interesting..." or "You know, SOME people think..." to the front of any political statements. That way all my statements can be interpreted as hypothetical, so if some mental midget gets bent out of shape I can simply tell him to ruminate on it, but that otherwise I agree with whatever it is he might think.
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>>380239825
>broteam
>good trach records
Since when?
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>>380239821

Nearly every country on earth employs mixed economies.

All we do is argue over the balance.

There is no need for a slow transition, because we already live what you describe.
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>>380240093
I dunno, you weren't going to bad till the end, but then you made it seem like you were too afraid to have your own opinion and rock the boat in case there was a social downside which kind of makes you a coward. Saying I don't fucking discuss politics is alright, but "haha yeah" is just a bit beta.
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>>380240154
broteam has leaked tons of shit before
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>>380227104

>She ranks at the bottom of Amazon in book sales
>Right now, right this second, Dangerous by Milo, a book by her "biggest online hate monger", is number one in preorder sales for 2017.

Phew.
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>>380240039
A dog shits in the street
What makes you different, indian?

Rats are all different colors
What makes you different, indian?

Send this to all indians
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>>380239543
It has an ideology at its core in the exact same way.
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>>380240258

I know, it just feels weird acknowledging horrible amounts of corruption and evil in the world, while also feeling like we're on a decent path overall.
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>>380240536
Pajeets eternally BTFO
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>>380240326

I'm not afraid. Just bored.

Having the same argument repeatedly on topics that entirely dependent on the subjective experience of the individual is just banging your head against a wall. It's important that the person you're talking to believes you agree with them, otherwise they simply won't let it go, and your time is spent listening to someone trying to convert you like some kind of door to door mormon. It's especially tiring if they're thick and don't understand the opinions they hold and are just regurgitating at you.

>Saying I don't fucking discuss politics is alright

Everyone I know already knows my policies on not discussing politics and religion, especially when I'm doing drugs.

But politics and religion will often come up as a matter of course because they are infused into most aspects of polite discourse revolving around current events.
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i cant wait until like 30 years down the line someone is running for public office or something and gamergate gets brought up
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>>380239821
i think there should be some kind of "service" requirement to be a citizen. otherwise you'd be surrounded by a bunch of entitled cunts.

but the basis of the story of this game seems to be something i've already seen. welfare cases that have enough to live and be comfortable, they don't bother to have other goals
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>>380240563

Having an ideology at your core and BEING an ideology are not the same things.

Just because a book is about Railroad Sluts doesn't mean it's inherently objectivist.
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