ARE YOU FUCKING READY FOR THIS SHIT??!!?!?!?!

It's the same fucking game. They even just did a rerelease last gen.

How did the entire audience not riot when they realized it was just a remake and not a sequel? I was livid

Whoa, extra blur? Fuck yeah!

>>380220872

I am excited for this, but also wondering, is this a full blown remake, or just a HD texture pack. It seems incredibly close to the original version.

>>380221126
I dont give a shit, i just want to play this on the next gen.

Was this running on the pro?

I already have this game. I just can't play it because my PS2 is broke and Sony says they don't believe anybody would want backwards compatibility despite constantly re-selling two generation old games.

>>380220872
I love SotC and all, but why?

I'd be up for it if they reimagined all the bosses but this is pretty lame.

>skipped out on this for the ps2 and ps3
it's literally a new game to me

>Are you excited to play a game that was released 12 fucking years ago and already remastered for PS3, but remastered again with even better GRAFIX

No, not really. And I thought Nintendweebs were starved for games.

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>>380222054
They'd get tons of sales if they went for a certain style of reimagining.

>>380220872
I don't play japanese crap.

>>380221340

>is this a full blown remake, or just a HD texture pack

neither.

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any new meaningful content?

>have original PS2 game
>have PS3 rerelease
>will probably buy this one too

hlep me I'm obsessed

>Nintendo drones talk up Wind Waker HD about how great it is
>get upset when Sony does the same thing

/v/ sucks now. It use to be funny but there's too many console fags ruining everything.

>>380221468
You are the cancer then.

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Do you guys think there will be any bonus Colossi that were cut?

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>>380221468
Just rent it and stream it on ps now :^)

>>380222361

What is it then? Surely not just a regular HD port. I don't remember the game looking that good.

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>>380222259
>ruining a game's amazing art for your pedo cartoon child fetish

kill yourself.

I'm going to hold out for the PS5 Super HD SotC. Hate to waste my money on an inferior product.

>>380220872
Who gets excited for rereleases? Especially when they already had a ps3/xbox360/PC port.

Woohoo I can't wait to pay $50 for this 10+ years old game.

>>380222512
There better be or it won't be worth bothering.

still don't understand how the horse survived the fall lads

>>380222605

other elements like lighting have been changed. it's a cosmetic upgrade broader than just hd textures.

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>Devil
>It was an extremely small colossus. You'd defeat it by menacing it with your bow, then drawing closer while hiding in the grass and attacking from behind. I imagined the battle with Devil to be fierce. You'd hide in the grass and jump on its back'.

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>tfw gonna buy this and enjoy it

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>>380222849

>>380222849
Post the spider one, I'd shit uranium bricks if I had to fight that spooky son of a bitch.

This is THE GAME that would've benefited the most from VR and they didn't bother.
Fucking idiots.

>>380222835

So it's kinda inbetween a HD port and a remake?

A redux?

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>>380222981
According to the artbook 'it was defeated by leading it from water to land', so the location of the battle was near a watery area. As stated above, Spider's weak spots were on its legs and after Wander had hit all six of them, it would have 'destroyed its posture' and caused it to fall. The player would then run up to where Spider fell down and be able to jump into his open mouth and stab its major sigil(s). This probably had to be repeated at least once.
The player also had to evade its legs for they were used to attack. In the OPM demo of the game, Wander had the ability to swing his sword sideways while on horseback. This was the main way to target its legs.

>>380222990
you'd get sick from swinging on the arms and shit. VR is a meme

>>380222991

i would call it a remaster personally.

>>380222990

you mean a VR third person camera?

i don't see that it would be that great, and first person would be utterly retarded

These games weren't bad but I wish they had more of a varied gameplay other than:
>ride horse to boss location
>grab onto boss and stab the glowing part
>teleport back to the main hub
>repeat

Kind of an overrated game desu. I'd be okay if they remade it while adding more interesting shit and a few more bosses, but I doubt they'll do it.

>>380221126
This game has no possibility of a sequel, and it had a game taking place in the same universe called "The Last Guardian" that took like 10 years to release and this game released far too early for it's style. I have no issue playing this again.

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>>380223223

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>>380220872

Yeah I'm ready to play a game I've already played but now with more polygons

>>380220872

I'm not even a huge fan and I was able to beat the game in 4 hours on my second playthrough, but the upgraded visuals really do the game a lot of justice. This the a rare case where a cinematic experience is really great.

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>>380220872
I don't have a pc
Can I pirate this on PS4???

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>Griffin
>The artbook gives a relatively large amount of information on Griffin, such as, 'You could defeat it by making use of its weakness, fire. You were meant to fight it by riding Agro, as with Colossus 10'. This could mean that it was afraid of fire, like Celosia, and fast moving, like Dirge.

>>380220872 (OP)

OK, confession time. I modchipped my PS2 and pirated the shit out of this game because I didn't think it would THAT good.

Turned out to be my #1 favorite game of all time and been feeling kinda guilty about it ever since.

It seems my time for redemption is here at last.

>>380220872
Semi related. How good is ICO? And how come it's so annoyingly unbalanced? I cannot for the life of me deal with the horrid little shadow bastards.

>>380221468
*current gen

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>>380223223
I forgot about the water being involved, that is fucking terrifying

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>>380224230
>According to early sketches, 'the joints are relevant and need to be redrawn' and that they 'will act as obstacles'. It also states that 'the wings are for decoration'.

>>380220872
The original game had an iffy framer ate clunky Controls and a worse camera.

Sure the PS4 might fix those things. But it's still the same game. It's like they are putting the ICO team to work ASAP for the last guardian mishap.

380222635
not even worth a (you)

>>380221126
For those of us that went 360 instead of PS3 yes it's going to be fucking worth playing again.

do you guys think they will add the unused Colossus?

the game was supposed to be online. kinda like MH but a bit different. they couldn't do it with the PS2 hardware. they had to make it SP and axe the other colossus.

I honestly don't see the point apart from milking money out of people with nostalgia. They already rereleased this last generation on the PS3. The least they could have done was made it for PC or something, but instead they opt to have it on the PS4, too. Sonybros never change.

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>>380222635
>not being a pedophile in 2017

>>380220872
I played this game a decade ago.

>>380220872
Will it have good controls finally? Both the original and the PS3 version were terrible.
Also:
Ico > Shadow of the Colossus

>>380220872
I already have it twice. Why would I need a remastered remaster?

I actually really enjoyed the cinematic experience of the PS2. When you climb onto a flying colossus' wing and stab it while the screen fills with black blood and the frame rate drops to 10. Not even kidding.

If sony took a hint from microsoft then they would give backwards compatibility. But it looks like they want to milk the remastered bullshit.

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>The artbook says, 'It hung from the ceiling, and you'd defeat it by dropping it to the floor'. That, coupled with early sketch designs, indicate that Monkey was fought in a cave-like area where it would hang on to stalactites. It is likely that Monkey would either attack the player by letting stalactites fall, or by dropping itself on the player. There is also the possibility, that Wander had to shoot the stalactites Monkey was hanging on to make it drop.

>In the screenshot of Monkey, it's shown hanging using its two limbs. In early sketches, the colossus is seen holding on to stalactites with one, two and four limb(s).

>>380224643

>do you guys think they will add the unused Colossus?

no.

honestly are you people all ten years old? you're like kids at comicon discussing whether goku is gonna make it into kingdom hearts

I really hope there's new shit.

thank god the progaonist of thos game wasnt black or we wouldnt be able to discuss this either

>>380224905

>If sony took a hint from microsoft then they would give backwards compatibility.

why should they, it's foolish from a business perspective

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>>380224913

>>380225052
It's being done by an american studio called Bluepoint. They've never made a game in their lives and the only thing they've done is remaster old games. They probably aren't adding anything other than prettier graphics.

>>380222456
Zelda games have more replayability than SOTC.

>>380225125
>BC is a bad
Where the fuck did i just timejump to, /v/ hates BC now?

>>380220872
Unless they release the cut colossi and add new content it's literally nothing. Those of us who liked this game played it more than 50 times to the point where it's not even fun anymore and those who didn't like it won't play it just because muh grafix given it was a pretty spectacular looking game when it came out on the ps2

I really don't understand why people get upset about this stuff. Why not just buy it if you don't want it? Really, I don't understand.

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>>380220872
>See the familiar environment
>Was expecting a sequel or spinoff of Shadow of the Colossus
>Hype set to fucking Maximum
>Turns out is just a graphics update of the same game the hace already remastered and re-released
>Boner lost
>They probably won't add anything new like new Colossus, the beta locations that are out of bounds or anything that justifies releasing this game yet again

PC port when?

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>>380225125
Of course they don't have to. Of course they make a quick buck off this. But customer loyalty is also a thing. They already have the sales. They could treat their customer base. I am actually insulted by this.

Remastered remaster is bullshit.

>>380225189
Bluepoint are gods though, They're the reason Titanfall even ran on 360

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>Phoenix
>The official artbook and guidebook gives information on how Phoenix had to be defeated; 'Its body was wreathed in flame. You defeated it by plunging it into a lake'. This indicates that Wander was not able to climb its body straight away. Interestingly, in all released screenshots of Phoenix, Wander is seen riding Agro. So it can be assumed she was vital to this battle.

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>>380224870
>not being a embryophile in current year

>>380225115

>wander becomes gradually more pale as he takes the lives of more and more noble savages
>only when all colour is gone from his complexion does he get to produce a child with a member of the ruling class

>>380220872
No I could care less

>>380225296

i'm very much for BC i just wouldn't buy a console with no games for it.

>>380225519
That's great, but they still don't make games or add content, they just port and remaster old games.

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>>380224870
>not being a heterophile in the year 2 0 1 7

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>think it's a new game in the series
>it's SotC
>again

>>380225450
never ever pkek

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ARE YOU FUCKING READY FOR THIS SHIT??!!?!?!?!

>>380225220
All 3D Zelda games are bad. This is a fact.

>>380225734
fix'd
>think it's a new game in the series
>it's SotC REMAKE
>again

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>The artbook says, 'Its head detail resembled that of a frilled lizard', which can be clearly seen in the screenshots. Its wings seem thin and leathery, like that of a bat. Its neck is very long, because 'I actually wanted to do a long-necked bird-type'.

>Roc was fought in a desert-like landscape, instead of a lake as with Avion. According to the artbook, 'Roc. You'd shoot it down with the bow.', meaning that the bow and arrow were vital to defeating this colossus, similiar to Phalanx. Because Agro can be seen in several screenshots, it is likely that she was necessary for defeating Roc by chasing it, again similiar to the battle with Phalanx.

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>>380220872
They're remastering it.. again..? Are they at least adding some extra stuff to it? An extra colossus, a new weapon or horse.. anything?

>>380225871
This is an opinion that has nothing to do fact that SOTC is a game a for one playthrough or two, as finding a colossis weakspots are part of game's experience. It's like replaying a puzzle game.

>>380220872
DO THEY EVEN HAVE THE ORIGINAL, THE LAST HD VERSION WAS OBJECTIVELY WORSE THAN THE ORIGINAL

>>380225871
OoT and MM are some of the best games ever made, faggot.

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>>380225003
>Stop enjoying things, let your happiness dry up, expect nothing and become a stingy self hating cunt like me.

Wow anon I never looked at it like that.

>>380226183
How so? By not running in slide show abomination?

>>380222470

fuck you bro eat a dick bro you're the cancer brobro

>>380225523
Thanks for posting this stuff anon, very interesting.

>>380224845
>PCfag begging for games yet again

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>>380226097
https://youtu.be/oRMi3GwuwVc?t=114

>>380226261
Jesus Christ don't make me spit out my H2O anon, that was a little bit too funny for me

>>380224570
oh, fuck
>admitting you had a 360
go back to your respective website

>>380226276

my expectations are realistic and i still enjoy games, anon. hell i'm even surprised sometimes, which is a good thing.

>>380226295
They used the european beta version, which is bugged and broken.

the psx2 version is the best way to play it currently.

its basically silent hill HD collection.

>>380226167
It's being done by the guys that remastered the PS3 version. Take that as you will.

>>380222259

you're a fucking idiot.

Never played this game, maybe I'll give it a try.

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>Sirius was a relatively small colossus, about the same size as Celosia and Cenobia (though a little taller than both), resembling a giant boar or hog. Unlike the previously mentioned colossi, Sirius had relatively no body armor and an exposed back with fur on it. This indicates that its weak spot was constantly exposed during the battle.

>Sirius was, also similiar to Celosia and Cenobia, very fast and - possibly - very aggresive. It had to be defeated while riding Agro, as it would chase the player at high speed. Because it had virtually no body armor, the main obstacle of fighting this colossus was not removing it, but simply getting on its back. The artbook gives a clue about how Sirius had to be defeated, as it says that "rocks meant to be used in the fight with Sirius", with a picture of a Stonehenge-like monument. It can be assumed that Sirius would chase Wander, while on horseback, and the player had to ride through this monument. As a result, Sirius would get stuck and the player could stab its major sigil(s). This monument can still be found in the released version of the game, at quadrant G7; thus, it can be assumed that that's the location Sirius was fought.

>>380226584
its hard to describe but its one of those games where you get kind of immersed in the controls.

it's pretty good, technically speaking it doesn't get enough praise.

>>380222368
One can hope. They had roughly 50 or so designs in concept, and at least 30 actually programmed (though not all were complete before being pulled).

Even if the main game is the same 16, I'd be fine as long as you could search out another 12 or whatever. Maybe even allow for the player to tackle the colossi in any order, not like the plot hinged on the order it went with.

>>380226459
Literally what the fuck is this even supposed to mean? 360 for the first few years had more and better exclusives. It also ran games better than the PS3. If you didn't start out with a 360 and then get a PS3 down the road when it actually got games then you were a retard.

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>>380220872
I was pretty pumped when I saw it because
A. I havent played the PS3 release
B.Visually it looks great
C. It was an actual surprise and came directly after another big surprise in MHW
I've come down a bit since then, but I'll still be getting it on release as its in my top 5 games. I get other people not being interested though.

Unless they add new content, it's not worth it.

Are they gonna pull this shit again with the PS5? Goddamn.

>>380220872
I absolutely loved SotC when it was originally released but I really dont think that 2017/18 is the market for this

>>380220872
I still have my PS2 and PS3 versions so I honestly don't give a shit unless they do something other than make it more pretty. Adding any of the cut Colossi back would be an instant buy.

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>Worm
>According to the artbook, 'The flower bulb-like section was its weak point'. Besides that there isn't any other information, making this one of the more mysterious unused colossi.

>According to an old Team Ico Gamers Blog post, the colossus was removed for being too powerful and because it required a huge arena to be able to dodge its attacks.

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>>380227123

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>>380226925
Why are you getting so angry over it? This studios job is to literally port things. It's not like making them port this game somehow means you get less games.

I just want to hear that music all lossless n shit

>>380227123
>>380227187
this is the one I most wish was in the game

>>380227123
Seems like it would have been like #10, but with a more wormlike face.

>>380226469
My expectations are also realistic, I expect SotC one of my favorite games of all time.

I also acknowledge the fact that they might if I'm really lucky add the cut content which would make one of my favorite games of all time even better, which is rather exciting and something to look forward to.

I will still be surprised and elated if the content makes it which I realize it might not, it's still fun to think about and discuss with other passionate anon's though. the difference is cynicism vs optimism.

>>380227227
It's still time/effort/money wasted on reusing the same game over and over and over and over again. If Sony consoles still had backwards compatibility this wouldn't be a thing.

The shills are here in full fucking force. Any rational person realizes what an awful cash grab this is. This remaster/remake trend is now worse than DLC.

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oh man I just remembered
imagine how gorgeous and swelling the ending gameplay will be

>>380220872
>game comes on
>my eyes literally melt its too beautiful

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>>380227427

>>380227357
Maybe, maybe not. Remakes were a thing even back around the time of the PS2. Maybe not as obnoxiously so as now, but still.

Even then, a full on remake was rumored before the game was even a year old. Some even thought Ueda was going to make it as his first PS3 game to give everyone a better experience from the PS2 one.

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>>380227558

>>380227357
>It's still time/effort
You mean the time and effort of a studio that does literally nothing but porting games. And it's not like sony isn't funding other games.

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>>380227465
Pajeets are out for blood. They don't want nobody talking about the porshe or severe misuse of the term exclusive.
Sony's show was just a few hours ago.

>>380224570
Well, yeah, if you missed it, go play it. I never even owned a PS2 myself, but I was able to play the game thanks to house sitting for someone. I even have access to the last gen remaster thanks to my buddy's PS3. I'm not that impressed by the concept of it being sold again for the PS4, but if it gets more people to play it, that's great.

>>380227465
>nobody can enjoy this without being a shill
Sweet may-may friendo

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>>380227816

>>380227427
>>380227558

were at least some of these collossi like, finished or working? they must have had something to make those screenshots, couldnt they just finish them up? if they kept the graphics relatively unchanged, they could even do the complete 64 collossi they originally planned with today's technology

>>380227465
No shilling here, no one is telling you to go out and buy it. The people who are buying it are doing so because they loved the original that's it, I'm 100% sure everyone in this thread understand why people wouldn't buy it.

Hell I get it I didn't buy the remake for PS3 because my PS2 copy still worked now that my PS2 is dead this seems like a nice investment.

>>380227295

it really is very unlikely that the cut content will make it in anon. i don't think it's cynical. if the new game was being developed in house i might not rule it out but even then it would be quite a lot of extra work for a product that is unlikely to generate much revenue.

>>380225450
PCSX2

I don't mind them future proofing one of the best games of all time but I hope they add in some of these extra colossus.

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>>380221126
fuck you

It's still gonna sell like fucking crack at your family reunion.

>>380227357

i would honestly pay for updated graphics and improved performance even if backwards compatibility were a thing. this is one of my favourite games of all time and i would happily spend money to get a perfected version of it.

>>380227958
The ones pictured were likely somewhat complete, or at least modeled and probably given a basic pattern for testing. This is likely why many got dropped because they couldn't think of a satisfying pattern. Hell, several were reportedly cut because they were too similar to others, so they voted on which ones to keep for both gameplay and visual distinction.

With over 10 years to think of new ideas, hopefully they can implement some of the cut monsters, even as just bonus fights to give this remake more oomph than just "it's now current gen looking"

I'm expecting them to revamp the controls

SOTC's control scheme is perfectly fine once you get the hang of it, but games like Assassin's Creed have standardized how controls in third-person perspective games should be and you'd be a fool to deviate from that.

>>380228282
FUCK OFF BACK TO TUMBLER

>>380228164
Cynical wasn't the right word pessimistic is what I meant. I am still optimistic, I don't even disagree it has little chance but I am hopeful and I enjoy talking with other optimistic anon's about a game I like.

So, is this a full on remake like Crash, or another remaster?

>>380228407

best practice would be for them to provide an option.

>>380220872
But I thought Sony fans didn't like old games.

>>380228521
Crash is just a Remaster, Sony even just calls it that.

>>380222512
100% no.

It's not being developed by team Ico. If they had anything new they would've teased it.

>>380228521
Looks entirely new. There's no way this is just another prettied up port unless Bluepoint found a way to dump all the animations and programming into a new engine without any hiccups.

>>380228604
Sony doesn't like BS because they can't make as much money off of it as they can by just re-releasing decade old games.

>>380228407
>perfectly fine
Then why didn't they fix it for TLG? Same engine, right?

Fixing the camera and controls would be the 2nd best reason to get this re-release/update/cashcow-milk. The 1st reason would be the updated graphamix.

>>380228614
Misuse of the word. A remaster doesn't give you the option to play as a completely different character from the original version (Coco)

>>380228653
Just because the original team wasn't mentioned? That's not a very solid reason. For all we know, Ueda might make an interview soon and mention he's overseeing it and authorized some changes. Whether it'll be a huge addition to the roster or just another 3-6, who knows.

>>380228697
This.

That animation looks way better. Wanderer looked like to much of a rag-doll in the original.

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>>380228697
>There's no way this is just another prettied up port

The sea serpent fight was fucking terrifying to me. I couldn't force myself to jump into the water seeing that thing swim around, I even remember actually going in the water but quickly getting out of it when the colossus came close.

After like 10 minutes I ended up doing it anyway.

>>380220872
>That ending and final battle.
I just wanted to save the pretty girl and ride away together on my trusty steed. It didn't have to be like this.

I give it bonus points because it started raining outside at the same time as it did in the final battle.

>>380228730
Because TLG wasn't the same exact control scheme.

>>380223626
This. I never felt I was fighting divine beasts. Just shitty "puzzle" after shitty puzzle. ICO was better.

>>380228885
Nice shitpost, kid.

Didn't this shit came out on the fucking PS3 along wit Ici?

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I hope Sony isn't expecting to get away with a $60 price tag just because they added more grass to the world.

>>380222456
>it's ok when Sony does it

>>380229074
That was a port, this is a remake.

>>380228754

i think it's better to take a purposive interpretation of the term than a literal one.

coco is a minor addition, the nuts and bolts behind the game are all still intact.

They better add new Collossi and bosses or I ain't buying the game I played 5245245 times for 10 years again

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FUCK
SoTC and related games some of the best fucking aesthetic and atmosphere of any franchise I know. I'm torn between wanting more and the thought that at any moment there could be a misstep and all that would be ruined.
Nonetheless, what a sexy bunch of games. Looking forward to the remaster.

>>380227542
Your screen's from ICO though

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>>380229185

>>380229284
He's not altogether wrong anon.

>>380229101
Sony will probably make it 40 like Wipeout Omega

>>380229372
They keep buying remakes that barely differ from the original games, that's the problem.
If you stopped buying them Sony would be forced to give you b/c.

>>380228862
>trusting Ueda after the mess that was TLG

>>380228862
I'm saying it's unlikely. It's the third time they're releasing this game. They would've shown something new or said something. There's no reason not to.

>>380229578
It really wasn't all that bad. Might not have been worth nearly a decade of waiting, but hardly any game that takes 5+ years ever is. Still fun enough for what it was.

>>380226459
Are you retarded?
360 has been "the PS2 of last gen" for the first 4 years or so. Everybody and their grandma had one, because it had actual exclusives, it ran multiplats better, it was released a year before PS3 and it was 100$ cheaper than the alternative.

Just how old are you

>>380229728
Or maybe they wanted to just dazzle people with nostalgia and the prettier graphics? Game debuts know about razzledazzle first and foremost.

>>380229578
Has Ueda lost interest in video games?

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>>380229185
And yes, there is a significant difference. Contrary to these fags:

>>380229284
>>380229372
>>380229569
Shut up. Some people really want to play this almost exclusively because of the updated graphics. Everything else will be updated too, the sound will be better, the motion-blur, the lighting, the controls. I'm getting erect just thinking about it.

I haven't played in years and would love to replay this again. It was a good call on Sony/Japan Studio

>>380229937
Doubtful, though I can imagine TLG has certainly given pause on how he approaches development. Wouldn't surprise me if he holds off making any kind of announcements now until he's certain he can show something and deliver in a timely manner.

>>380230080
>the controls
One can hope they'll be better. Not that I really minded them, but I can see how this will be a big dividing point for many.

>>380220872
so that makes the 3rd time this game has been made? and without ico too. i really hope it isnt going to be 60 dollars.

>>380229896
Your tenacity to cling to false hope is admirable, but this is just developed by Bluepoint games (who never change a damn thing in games) and nothing new was shown. I'm just going off the facts. I would love new content, but Team Ico is gone and who knows where Ueda fucked off to.

>>380230080
That pic is a good analogy of you taking it up the ass by Sony.

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>The Dam
>The most notable piece of unused architecture in Shadow of the Colossus. This impressive structure is situated at I2 on the world map, a leftover from the larger world map that was originally planned to house 24 Colossi. It lacks collision data.

>>380230285
I'd spend $100 on a collector's edition just like I did with The Last Guardian, and yes: I was fucking pleased about it.

>>380230302
You haven't proven anything other than ask "why not show new stuff?"

Again, they like to dazzle people with the graphics first. Maybe they'll show/confirm something later. Goddamn, it's hardly wrong to believe they'll add some something substantial beyond the graphical update.

>>380230309
They are the last truly great console makers these days.

>>380230447
There's plenty of inexplicable cool stuff in SotC. No other game has filled me with such curiosity. Shame the truth was that it was all window dressing.

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>>380230447

This thread proves that Sony can get away with literally anything.

>>380228730
TLG had drastically worse controls than SOTC. That was one of its biggest problems, it was a chore to play it.

>>380230628
>Goddamn, it's hardly wrong to believe they'll add some something substantial beyond the graphical update.

Something doesn't exist just because you want it to. It's Bluepoint. It's just a glorified remaster. Where is your evidence that they're adding anything?

It would be nice, but I think that ship has sailed.

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>>380220872
>lmao why would anyone want to play those shitty old games
>rereleases old games

Sony's policy regarding backwards compatibilty infuriates me, because it isn't based around a sound plan or logic but more them being stubborn assholes because Microsoft beat them to the punch

>tfw never got around to playing sotc on the ps3 collection
Should I bother waiting just to make a ps2 game look slightly better?

>>380230080
>the sound will be better
>trailer uses none of the original music

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>>380230841
>The Mask of the Titans is a fourth mask item that would have been used to enhance the damage Wander dealt to Colossi. Unused text related to this item is also present.

>That is the “Mask of the Titans”…
>By wearing it, thou shalt gain the power to inflict deeper wounds upon a colossus…

>>380230869
I broke 2 controllers in rage at SotC. I got through TLG in 3 days with ease. SotC may have had cleaner controls, but it was a lot harder of a game that TLG.

>>380220872
>graphical update of a graphical update minus another game and no new content
>getting excited for this
W O W

>>380230910
It's so they can get you to pay full price for the games they know you want instead of just re-releasing it.

>>380230889
>it's a glorified remaster
Where's YOUR evidence? This is a remake, and there's a chance they can add more.

>>380230869
Was the Bird Dog cute though?

>>380231063
Did you play the remaster or the original?

>>380230997
This did bother me. I might just ignore this game entirely if they don't include the original soundtrack or at least a re-done version of it.

>>380220872
It's probably just because the original game was so far ahead of the curve in graphics, but I was honestly not that blown away by the upgrade.
Yeah, there's dynamic grass, tessellated rocks, finally fixed the bloom, better textures, full dynamic shadowing, etc. but somehow it just doesn't make the difference you'd think it would.

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>The Eye of the Colossus is an item that, while semi-functional in the Preview version, was removed from the final game. It allows players to witness battles through the eyes of the Colossus they are fighting. It is, however, buggy and unfinished. Two pieces of unused text describing the item also remain within the game.

>That is the “Eye of the Colossus”…
>By using it near a colossus, thou shalt be able to see what the colossus sees…

>This item is activated by pressing R3 on the controller. Pikol discovered this by accident in March 2010. It works well for some of the colossi such as colossus #1, #4, #5, #6, #13 and #15 but for others it is clearly unfinished as when the colossi move the camera sinks down into their bodies then back out again. You have to be near the colossus to activate it and when the colossus moves out of range you will hear a low 'beep' sound when you press R3 indicating the colossus is out of range. It has no function at all with colossus #3 but why is a mystery.
>You can even activate the Eye of the Colossus before the colossus is activated (again if you can get close enough). You see a single stationary frame of what the colossus sees and then watch it come to life from its point of view. There is no camera control while using the item but you can zoom in and out with R2.
>Another cool feature is you can activate the Eye of the Colossus when the colossus is dying, so you can watch it fall to its death from its point of view. By pressing R3 again you can watch the death scene from Wander's point of view to get a unique perspective instead of the usual in game death scenes. You have full control of Wander as the colossus is dying unlike in the normal death scenes where Wander is locked.

>>380231224
Both, but the original is where I destroyed two of my defenseless ps2 controllers.

More Colossi please.

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>>380229279
Omg you're right
Hey imagine the Queen's Sword or the beach in the SotC remake, they'll look sweet.

>>380231197
I thought it was. Might have been annoying to guide at times, but man if they took great lengths to make that fucker look neat.

>>380231194
>This is a remake, and there's a chance they can add more.

That's the best you got for your argument? Semantics on what constitutes a remake/remaster and "there's a chance"?

>>380231063
>I broke 2 controllers in rage at SotC
Sounds like you're just a retard who has no self control. SOTC's controls were fine you literally learn everything you need to know in the first ten minutes of the game, TLG's controls are completely abysmal.

>>380231197
It was, but the prevalence of "read my mind" puzzles ruined it for me.
>spend ten minutes exploring trying to find out here to go next
>climb onto trico in a moment of frustration
>he jumps over a giant wall with no warning or indication that that was what I was supposed to do, taking me to a new area

>40 something colossi planned in the original release

Please add the other 25, pls

>>380231334
That'd be pretty rad to have put into the game. Of course, they'd have to make a shit of detail for things like the 10th colossus since he's in the sand so much, which probably isn't as deep as the game makes it appear to be.

>>380231197
My girlfriend was fawning at Trico the whole time I played TLG. Yes, Trico was fucking adorable.

I didn't have much trouble commanding him, it just takes patience and thinking about where he is in the game and what you need him to do.

>>380231408
Not like you got anything better than "these guys have only done ports before" and having no way of knowing if Ueda is uninvolved. Fucking hell, it's not like anyone is saying it's 100% confirmed that new stuff is in the remake.

>>380224570
So just buy a fucking PS2 and the game for dirt cheap instead of giving companies an excuse to constantly rerelease shit most people have played over a decade ago instead of new games.

>>380230910
It's based around the semi-sound idea that backwards compatibility is more work/hardware cost for no monetary gain since you make basically nothing from last gen's games. The fact that it might sell more consoles also isn't super appealing, because consoles cost more to produce than they make back, the only revenue comes from games, and there's a (possibly correct, possibly incorrect) assumption that either A. the people brought in won't buy a lot of new games because they still have old favorites and/or B. The number of new customers you get from having backwards compatibility is so small that even if they DO buy a decent number of games it still doesn't make back the cost of designing for backward compatibility, since it makes the console you're already selling at a loss MORE expensive to produce or costs you money in man-hours to produce a good emulator, which is a momumentally difficult task for some consoles.

On the flip side remastering an old game makes a lot more sense- if you still have the base assets upgrading them isn't as hard as creating a game from scratch, you don't have to have designers creating new rules, because they already exist, etc. It's low-effort, and if you hit a younger demographic that missed the first release you can get a decent chunk of sales on top of the superfans that will rebuy the game anyway just to have it.

Add Mono sex

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Hey what if they add in co-op

>>380220872
As a big fan of SotC, even I think re-releasing it a third time is a bit much. It's a real shame, because the first 5 seconds of the trailer got me more hyped than anything else that's happened this E3.

It's a shame I'm still going to buy it, because I love this game too much not to. It'll feel more like an obligation at this point.

>>380231489
They're not going to add a single one and you know it. Never expect more than the bare minimum, especially when they could have advertised any new features in the reveal and chose not to. It's a graphics overhaul for a game that already looked good.

>>380231389
>>380231418
>>380231605
It seemed cute in the trailers, but I don't know what he was like in the actual gameplay.
I wanted to play purely for Bird Dog and my love of stories involving pets, but that price tag was a little steep going by my experience of the previous games.

This is a good game, but it doesn't hold up under tons of playthroughs. Do other fans really want this? What new audience is there for this type of game; who hasn't played this on PS2/PS3? And why not remaster ICO too?

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>>380231552

>>380231830
It's annoying at times, but that was kind of the intent as he's meant to be like an animal. You can't just say "stand up on this and wait you feathery nigger".

Obviously, it comes down to patience like >>380231605 said. If you think you can do that, then maybe rent it from somewhere, or just find it somewhere cheap if possible.

>>380231418
>he jumps over a giant wall
> no warning or indication that that was what I was supposed to do,
>not thinking about a huge fucking core mechanic to the game play: working with Trico
>calling other people a retard.
Did you not know what to expect in the game?
The first thing I always did in TLG was to see what Trico could do to help me out. It's like your mom bought you this game because you thought it looked cool and she wanted to shut your faggot ass up.

>>380223376

Are you fucking retarded? It's a remake, you seriously think that shit is even remotely based on anything of the original?

Take your goggles off and go see what the original looks like.

It's my all time favorite game. Platinumed the remaster even. I'll buy this day one.

On that note who actually asked for this? Even the PS2 version holds up to this day. Out of all the remakes they could they do they do one nobody asked for. Again I absolutely love this game but really? Give me my fucking Socom 2 remake all ready you know the game people have actually been asking for, for fucking years.

>>380232038
Does it play out like a Ghibli/Kid+Big Monster movie?

>>380231661

This was just a video dropped in between other trailers with no press, there's no mention of Ueda being involved, it's being headed by bluepoint games, and simply no one has indicated there's anything new.

I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying the ONE trailer showing the same locations and content we've see with updated textures isn't enough to convince me they're adding in content from a 12 year old game. I need more than wishful thinking to convince me.

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>>380231871
>why not remaster ICO too?
Because you don't fight giant monsters in Ico. That's basically it.

Yorda is the #1 reason to play Ico. I want to lick her feet after her walking around the castle for days.

>>380232105
To be fair, it does look like the original just super prettied up. But it's obvious they didn't just force the original engine into overdrive. If they had that kind of talent, they wouldn't have made the PS3 versions of the first two games look only reasonably better than some of the emulations that were out at the time.

>>380232180
SotC is safe, easy to get a budget to remaster/make. Propose your SOCOM remaster to your bosses and they go "never heard of it"

>>380232296
Yes, it feels very Ghibli.

As a side note, the way the boy runs down stairs reminds me a lot of the scene where the girl from Spirited Away runs down a flight of stairs.

>>380230628

>Goddamn, it's hardly wrong to believe they'll add some something substantial beyond the graphical update.

in the absence of evidence, it might well be wrong anon.

get your head screwed on mate.

>>380232105
I guess the question is "what makes this a remake and not a remaster?"

Is it a new engine?

>all these people thinking their going to add significant content
they aint adding shit.

>>380231735
That'd be cool but highly unlikely. I'd see them doing this as a new title before ever adding it to the 2020 Remake Ultra HD, 1.5 Supermix Edition featuring Dante from Devil May Cry

>>380232518
We have no idea. Everything in this thread is conjecture.

>>380232372
And all I'm saying is that it's possible they could be. Again, no one is screaming "We've got 30 new colossi and Mono and Yorda making out on a robotic Agro spewing fire" or anything.

>>380232296
I guess? It certainly loves to tug on the heartstrings. So if you're a sucker for sad moments, you'll probably be touched. If not, you might be annoyed or just unimpressed. Honestly, I say just give it a go if you can find the time and cash to spare. It's not perfect, but it's far from god awful.

>>380232074
>game gives no indication where trico can or can't go
>only method of finding out is just climbing on him and testing
Thrilling Trial and Error gameplay. There's no "mechanic" in hopping on Trico and then watching a scripted scene of him jumping over a wall, it's just "read the game developer's mind because we couldn't think of a good way to signpost a way out of this area".

TLG was a huge disappointment with terrible puzzles. They clearly decided that story and presentation were more important than gameplay while the other two Team Ico games had an excellent balance.

Anyone who breaks a controller in a rage is a retard, simple fact.

You guys know they're going to ruin this, right? You can't make a 2004 game with 2017 technology because there are too many technical limitations nowadays.

>>380232518
Remaster usually entails increased resolution, making some textures prettier and making the lighting better.

It's clear this is a remake because it looks like a complete graphical remake.

>>380232450
It's on just fine, buster.

>>380230910

why would you pretend to know anything whatsoever about business

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>tfw no remaster with new colossi
>it's just gonna be the same game again

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>>380232674
>there are too many technical limitations nowadays
>compared to 2004
What

>>380231830
It wasn't worth the money and I'm a massive Ico/SOTC fan. TLG fucking sucked.

Animations are okay but you may as well watch it on youtube because it's not fun.

>>380232296
No, to play like that the game would have had to have a soul which it doesn't.

>>380232410
>>380232410
>Yes, it feels very Ghibli.
I'm definitely interested. I just don't want it to turn out like a movie, rather than a game.
Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons is an example of what I mean. I enjoyed it, but it should have just been a short film.

>the scene where the girl from Spirited Away runs down a flight of stairs.
I don't remember the scene you're talking about, but I can somehow perfectly picture what the girl would look like doing it.

>>380232614
Will probably check it out soon anon, thanks guys.

>>380232105

>Are you fucking retarded? It's a remake, you seriously think that shit is even remotely based on anything of the original?

yes i think it's very visibly based off the old assets dude.

>>380228441
>triggered because colossus will sell well again

BTFO

>>380232628
>Thrilling Trial and Error gameplay.

Not him but there's actually a puzzle really early on that gives the player a great grasp on what kind of distances Trico can jump. The player cannot make it past that part of the game without making this realisation.

With that knowledge it's pretty obvious when and where you're supposed to try to get Trico to jump up on things, so it sounds like you're just a bit dumb.

>>380232867
>I just don't want it to turn out like a movie, rather than a game
You aren't going to like it. The gameplay is lousy, all the appeal is in the presentation.

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>>380231931

>>380232105
>>380232385
The animations of everyone but Wanda are the same and the scale + animations of Agro and the Colossi are the same.

It's a remaster with really fancy new graphics.

If they were developing the entire engine from scratch, which would be impossible for this team, they would just be making a sequel.

>>380232684
Remaster typically entails nothing more than a port; see SOTC HD.

This is a remaster in the truer sense.

>>380232380
I wouldn't be surprised if the game includes bonus teaser for Ico PS4, probably with a VR option to float around the castle.

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>>380232674
>because there are too many technical limitations nowadays.
????????????????????????

>>380233048
Wow, they faithfully recreated the animation, that must mean they didn't do any actual work!

Are you fucking brain damaged? It's a remake, they made it.

I already played it.

I didn't like it then, I'm not gonna like it now.

>>380220872
I don't really need it. Sotc was my first console game in 2012. I don't want to play the same game again wheres my bloodborne?

I'm not expecting any new content, and I don't think they'll use the sales of this game to test the waters for a potential sequel.

If people want to buy the same game again, good for them.

>>380232867
It's a very adventure-esque game, you're in it for the journey not so much depth of gameplay. That being said, an adventure with a giant feathery dog is novel in and of itself.

>I don't remember the scene you're talking about, but I can somehow perfectly picture what the girl would look like doing it.
Yeah it's just a little thing I noticed, they really nailed that child-like style of movement.

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This is probably the best game they showed at the conference, and that's saying something.
Fuck this E3.

>>380233153
He does have a point, I highly doubt Bluepoint made an engine and all the assets from scratch, it's way above their pay grade.

>>380233003
I enjoyed Brothers and that was 60% presentation, 35% story and 5% gameplay.

I'd much prefer gameplay, but I feel I can enjoy something regardless of the shitty gameplay if it excels in the other areas.

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>>380233035

>>380233185
cool thanks for posting

>>380232628
>There's no "mechanic" in hopping on Trico
If it was so easy, why didn't you figure it out faggot? Again, it was the entire selling point of the game: to work with Trico. That's like playing Metal Gear or Thief, or Splintercell without utilizing stealth first and foremost.

> story and presentation were more important than gameplay while the other two Team Ico games had an excellent balance.
I liked Ico, but the fighting mechanics were garbage compared to SotC and even TLG. All you did was wack black things to stop them taking your waifu who was completely fucking useless. Trico actually did shit and the Wanderer was a badass.

>>380233153
They CLEARLY can't animate you autist, look at Wander.

>>380233494
Modders have 'remade' games more drastically than this, I don't get what's so hard to grasp. I'm getting really annoyed at the people hyping up a cinematic trailer like this. It looks good but every sign points to remaster than proper remake. The game didn't even need a remake, it plays fine.

TLG under preformed so they're rushing out this. Simple as that.

>>380232827
>>380233064
more advanced and elaborate simulations of things are more difficult to implement, so things that used to be easy (such as being able to shoot ropes on any wooden surface and climb them in the original Thief) is removed from later sequels due to "technical limitations"

you might think this sounds retarded, because it is, but that's how this industry is

>>380233494
It's still more of a remake than a remaster though. A remaster is just the same exact game with its assets prettied up. This is the game in a whole new engine and from the looks of Wander's movements, some changes to the animation/physics.

Even then, is it that hard to believe they could be doing it all from scratch? The guys who made Sly 4 did the PS3 ports, and I don't think many expected them to go from porting to a full on original creation.

>>380233678
Wander moves a lot less stiffly than he did originally, nigger.

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>>380233049
>VR
>Yorda
>Yorda in VR
I just want to lick her feet. Is that okay?

>>380233792
A remaster will guarantee the original experience with everything upres'd and in HD. If this is some sort of remake, it may noit play as well as the original and, frankly, it's a bit insulting because it turns a game that was meant to be piece of art into more of a cash cow.

>>380233678
>I don't get what's so hard to grasp.
Mainly that Bluepoint has worked almost exclusively with remasters, not creating engines and assets.

>They CLEARLY can't animate you autist, look at Wander.
To be fair, Wander's run animation in SotC was jank as fuck.

>>380233703
From engine homogenization? Or the work of animation?

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>>380229101
well well well

>>380226459
FIVE
HUNDRED
AND
NINETY
NINE
US
DOLLARS

>>380233703
Fair enough.
>>380233792
I guess I can see that being a thing depending on how much they're working with Japan Studio, because that would certainly explain it.

>>380233971
It is some sort of remake. This is clearly not the same exact engine as the original PS2. They probably dumped it into whatever engine they're using, like some folk have done with bits and pieces of other games. Even then, BP have shown some crazy wizardry with their ability to tinker with games.

>>380222259
01 a best

>>380220872
AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
IS THAT FUCKING SHADOWS -AGAIN-!?
HAHAHAHAHAHA OH WOW YOU FAGGOTS WILL DEFEND ANYTHING WONT YOU!?!?

AHAHAHAHAHA

>>380223807
>this game released far too early for it's style.

no, it didn't.

>>380234204
The real question is whether Ueda is involved like he was with the PS3 collection or if he wasn't even aware until just now.

>>380234085
both

>>380233792

this is the same exact game with its assets prettied up.

>This is the game in a whole new engine

that doesn't necessarily mean much anon.

>Even then, is it that hard to believe they could be doing it all from scratch?

they visibly have not done it all 'from scratch'.

i think the purposive definition of 'remake' is where the actual game is substantially changed beyond upgrading the quality of the assets and cosmetics. i see no evidence this has happened.

>>380234272
What else are we supposed to be excited about from this E3? Another fucking Assassin's Creed?

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Would rather a sequel t b h, will consider buying if there are more collossusses than the original though.

>>380234495
brarp

>>380233904
No, he moves more stiffly. Look at the cape. You're the real nigger.

>>380234071
That's my point, this isn't a remake because they're remaster dudes.

I agree but it's better than this stiff shit now, it looks nowhere near finished. And it was mainly his model that sucked in the PS2 game.

>>380234453

mario

>>380234410
Why? It's clearly not the same engine from the PS2 version, it's in something else now. That's makes it more of a remake than a remaster which is just restoring whatever was lost/unable to be done with previous hardware.

What if they put all the cut content with the 8 other colossal they were gonna put in the PS2 version in this one?

>>380233678
>TLG underperformed

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>>380229578
You watch your fucking mouth.
It may not have been the 10/10 game everyone was expecting, but it was still very good.

>>380234565
The cape moves just fine, and his run is not nearly as stiff you retarded cocksucker.

>>380234453
>Being excited about E3
I found your first problem right there! What are you twelve?

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>>380234453
(Also the new Spidey game looks rad)

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>>380220872
>releasing a remaster of a game that has already been remastered

>>380234618
>8 other
Nigga, they had at least 14 more ready to go before trimming it down to the 16 we got.

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>>380234763

This is a remake you dummy

>>380234330
I'd hope so.

>>380234618
>the 8 other colossal they were gonna put in the PS2 version
Honestly this doesn't need to happen. The scrapped Colossi were really just combined or integrated into the other existing Colossi. These "new" ones you're hoping for would just be the cut up chunks of other colossi that made into the final cut. I highly doubt they will add anymore than 1-2 new colossi IF even that.

>>380234586

>That's makes it more of a remake than a remaster which is just restoring whatever was lost/unable to be done with previous hardware.

i find that a really spurious definition of the difference. i see lighting and increased detail above all in the new game. should that not be considered something 'lost/unable to be done with previous hardware'?

if the game plays the same, and everything looks the same, and the devs were working from old assets, i can't see why you'd call it a remake. can we really class this and the ffvii remake in the same category? it seems irresponsible to do so considering so many people in this very thread seem to think that gives them a licence to wildly excessive expectations for added features.

>>380234817
wtf that's like a whole game

>>380234903
I don't see why not. Unless he had something underway before or after TLG dropped, I could see him at least supervising this so Wander isn't given a motorcycle and the music is all tecno daft punk stuff.

already played it

>>380234565
I'd disagree, while I feel very nostalgic for the old animations it contorted his body in an unnatural way if you look at it closely.

When he pressed his leg forward his knee would jolt out in a really jarring way instead of looking like a real leg.

>>380235029
play it again

>>380234895
so that means its not going to be fucking trash?

>>380235103
No

>>380235103
i did, on the PS3

>>380234918
Because there's far more detail to things than just a new paintjob. From what little is shown, there's still a lot of new details like the stone and fur on the colossi and even the eyes on #6 spinning.

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>>380233942
>>380232380
>feet
I want to kiss and suck on her neck and slowly make my way downstairs

>>380235201
play it on the ps4
look at all that grass, don't you want 4k grass?

>>380235207

> From what little is shown, there's still a lot of new details like the stone and fur on the colossi and even the eyes on #6 spinning.

are you distinguishing between textures and polys or whatever to make this point? because adding detail is exactly what a remaster does.

>>380235313
Too much grass

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>>380235256
Can we just have a Yorda threat please?

>>380234895
>believing it will be in any way different to the original

why do you lie to yourself anon?

>>380235417
Yea, in the same engine it was made in. This isn't the same exact engine. Just because Wander isn't a transgender overweight black woman now doesn't make it any less of a remake.

>>380221126
How did microsoft get away with remaking crackdown 1?

>>380235256
>>380235496
Need Shadow bird tips please. Wanna play for Yorda, but shadow birbs are no fun.

>>380235537

it doesn't have to be the same exact engine. the difference is between cosmetic and substantive changes, not between trivial and significant amounts of work. you could spent 100 years on a remaster, it would still be a remaster.

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I imagine she smells like a dusty old book. It's hot af

>>380234586
>>380234895
According to you FF9 and 10 are also remakes then.

>>380234720
It doesn't hardly move. It looks like it's cardboard. His run is stiff as fuck his neck isn't even moving.

Bluepoint CANNOT animate. The colossus and horse animations are the same as the PS2 game that's why they looked fine.

>>380235656
And yet this isn't a remaster. For fucks sake, this is more remake than when people were calling remasters remakes. This is clearly using a new engine, which is far more than the remasters that were just the same game with a polish. Just because it's not 100% fresh doesn't make it less of a remake.

>>380235612
JUMP NIGGA JUMP
JUMP AND SWING

>>380235672
>According to you FF9 and 10 are also remakes then.
No. FF9 was just given a slight overhaul, and only to the characters, namely the main party and some key NPCs, everything else was the same.

And the cape is barely given time to be shown moving. Wander moves a lot less stiffly than before. His legs aren't spazzing out like the noodles they were before. Bluepoint can animate just fine.

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>>380235612
Shadow bird? You mean an enemy from Ico? SotC? What are you trying to tell me?!

>>380235095
>it contorted his body in an unnatural way if you look at it closely.
Because they had to in order for the gameplay to not look totally weird. Ico and TLG both have the same thing going on but since Ico and TLG aren't trying to climb on giants going ape shit, it wasn't as drastic. But the instant animation switches are in all of the Team Ico games.

The aren't going to fix the camera and wonky controls just like that new game they made.

>>380235508

When did I say that?

>>380235823

when you port assets and logic and shit into a new engine in order to utilise the more extensive capabilities of the engine to make cosmetic improvements while retaining the nuts and bolts of the gameplay and the substantive characteristics of the assets themselves, you're doing a remaster. i don't think you've made a case for why the definition of remake should be widened. from a distance this looks like the exact same game.

Ima get it

>>380235672

No?

>>380235961
FF9's original everything was lost. It was remade from scratch.

The cape moves around like it's a piece of cloth in the PS2 game even when you slowly walk, it moves around like a piece of fat cardboard when Wander is running in the PS4 game. Because Bluepoint cannot animate and everything they animated(Wander and his cape) looks stiff as fuck.

BANG BANG MOTHERFUCKAS

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I'm gonna post best Ueda girl until someone tells me to stop.

>>380236220

stop

>>380236095
Because it's not just a dump right into the new engine. They clearly had to program some stuff. You can't just take a game and put it into a new engine like switching batteries in a remote. If it were that easy, then literally anybody could do it, and we'd have long since had Spider-man 2 in an engine that didn't look dated.

>>380235958
I try to swing, but they hit me and steal my girl. Then they hit me again while I'm getting up, and again when I'm chasing her down. They never seem to stop appearing either.

The bird's are assholes man, and the really long down time doesn't help.

>>380235997
ICO man, ICO. Yorda's not in SotC, unless Yorda's the girl in the ending in which case please shut up and don't tell me if that's the case.

>>380236220
Continue.