Cool

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>>380205951
That whole thread complaining about this just got BTFO

>>380205951
hard to see any physics when 90% of the game is scripted

>insomniac

So it will be as big of a letdown as sunshit overhyped.

>>380205951
:)

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Wow, cool! Totally makes up for it being a shitty bam ham clone!

If thats true then they need to do a better job. The swinging doesn't look right at all.

>>380205951
Good. This makes me happy.

And in case you're wondering - we're finally catching up to technology that a game literally fucking did perfectly in 2004 :)

Why are they proud of this?

>>380206234
They said the game will be on the show floor for people to demo, expect more gameplay in a few days

>>380206265
lol.

basically they havent made a good game since ratchet and clank going comando.

>physic based swinging between QTEs
HAHAHAHAHAHA GOOD USE OF DEVELOPMENT TIME

>>380205951
I actually noticed the physics on the video, and they looked kinda weird, like spiderman constantly hugs the buildings instead of moving between them. It's realistic i understand but it's not what you expect after watching movies and series.

This game looks terrible. I can't believe how much they're hyping this boring scripted nonsense.

If they get rid of the QTE's it looks like a good Arkham Clone, but in the state we saw it in, it's way too cinematic

>>380206451
Well seeing as we couldn't gleam shit off a scripted event.

https://youtu.be/C_LnZoJYwKQ
reminder that the best spiderman movie doesn't even use physics

I have zero faith in Insomniac

>>380205951
>Spider man gameplay had more qtes than the new god of war

What were they thinking

PRESS X TO SAVE THE DAY

great, now lets tone down on the QTE/scripted events

>>380206567
>>380206686
>>380206929
>>380207021
>>380207132
Contextual prompts arent QTE

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>>380207349
>it's a feature!

>>380207349
Whatever you say Naughty Dog.

>combat is just pressing x in a rhythm like bamham
>not set combos and freedom like Spiderman 2
WHY
HOW CAN YOU FUCK THIS UP
JUST FUCKING REMAKE SPIDER MAN 2 AT THIS POINT

>>380206773
It's "glean" you fucking retard, dumbasses like you are a diamond dozen

>QTEs and cinematic games are bad
>But only if the west does it
>Azuras Wrath is a masterpiece

Fucking weebs need to die, the game looks cool a bit too derivative of BamHam but everyone was already expecting this.

>>380207427
>>380207443
Not a argument

>>380207652
explain how contextual prompts are different than QTEs then

>spider-man's arkham combat is slower than batman's arkham combat

HOW

BATMAN MOVES QUICKER THAN BATMAN SHOULD IN HIS OWN GAMES, ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS COPY IT

>>380207614
Whatever faggot. You understood what I said.

>>380205951
>I know it looks really disappointing and a reskinned batman game but web swinging
KEK

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>>380207748
contextual prompts
>Run up to a box
>Press X to pick it up

QTE
>if you don't press X during this cutscene you die

>>380207963
>if you don't press X during this cutscene you die

this happened NUMEROUS times throughout the fucking trailer go back and watch it, especially the helicopter segment

>>380207748
QTE's aren't normal gameplay actions. for example, in batman, grapple is on R1, even though every ledge you look at says R1 (like in spiderman), the grapple isn't a QTE.

If it asked you to hit R1 from a cutscene it would be a QTE.

>>380207963
So the Spider-Man footage had plenty of QTEs then.

>>380208160
see>>380207963

>>380208085
Those are contextual prompts, not QTEs though.

>>380206419
You never played a spiderman game before.

>>380208085
the web slinging isn't a QTE tho, which is what a lot of people are shitting on. everything else was, but the webs were just R1 bat grapple

>>380206614
Its being realistic and hes utilizing wall running/climbing more like an actual spider would.

>>380208238
>>380208289
are you retarded? look at the footage when he's on the helicopter, all those are QTEs

>>380208238
>needing to spin this badly

they didnt use moon swinging but have QTE instead. How fucking stupid are western devs?

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>>380206234
>when 90% of the game is scripted
>sees scripted demo for a fucking E3 presentation
>"The whole game will be scripted! Dropped!"
Holy fuck the summer babies are in full swing tonight

>>380207748
Contextual prompts are optional when you get close to or look at a object

i.e. Spiderman looks at crane presses x and causes the crane to hit enemy

QTEs are fast mandatory prompts where you have to hit the button as fast or soon as possible

i.e. the crane falling and spidey webs it to the building

>>380208254
neither have you, fucktard, i've played most of them released in the past 20 years.

the only one similar to arkham was the Noir sections of Shattered Dimensions, which was a 100% absolutely shameless Arkham ripoff. All the others were closer to traditional action games with larger movelists and combos.

>>380207894
Well from the point of view of Spiderman (who you are playing as) everything moved slower because you are much faster.

>>380205951

The Bionic Commando remake did this shit 10 years ago. I'm not impressed.

>>380208161
But mostly it was contextual prompts

>>380208289
They looked more like the shitty Shadow of Mordor move the cursor to this spot and hit X QTEs.

If this was actually just a case like R1 grapple there wouldn't be one huge circle telling you where to aim and what to push there would be numerous options open to you.

>>380207614
Wow you sure showed him. it really is a doggy dog world.

>>380207614

What can I say, it's a doggy dog world.

>>380206496
Because after 2004 nobody even tried.
I hope there's an upgrade system. Swinging looks pretty slow but it was slow in SM2 also before you upgraded.

>>380208254
I mean, I've played Maximum Carnage, the PS1 games, the first movie game, Ultimate and WoS and I can tell you that none of those had bam ham combat.

>>380208621

But anon, nobody played that game so it doesn't count.

>>380208621
its not about it being new you fucking amoeba its that spiderman games stopped bothering with not moonswinging and now its fixed

>>380206234
so by your logic, every game shown on e3 ever is scripted?

>>380205951
>know gameplay is awful and The Order-esque
>Get people hyped about physics instead

This screams No man's Sky misdirection.

>>380205951
I don't believe it. It looked fucked up

Why did (console) Spider Man 2 from 2004 get to be the only good Spider Man game? What went so right with that game's development that they've literally never been able to recapture the magic in the 13 years between then and now? 13 years later the best we can get is a QTE laden arkham clone.

>>380209360

MY BALLOOOOOON

>>380209123
Judging from this E3 so far, he's not far off.

>>380209165
>The Order-esque
what

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>>380208434
>full swing

>>380209360
The psx spiderman was also great.

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Even without scripted swings, physics based just means there's even MORE potential for fucking up and not getting them to go/do what you want them to do.

And even THEN that argument falls apart when non-scripted events clearly show pre-set anchor point indicators limiting what you can do anyway.

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>>380208434
>full swing
Dammit anon

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>>380209668
Did you forget already?

>>380209739
what exactly are you >implying here?

>>380209360
>Why did (console) Spider Man 2 from 2004 get to be the only good Spider Man game?
It's not the only good one you double nigger.

>>380210085
You might be retarded

>>380205951
Will believe when they show actual gameplay instead of a movie

>Spiderman game
>Miles Morales
Its almost as if they were trying to hide the disappointment as long as possible.

>>380205951
Am not convinced on the swinging at all. Looks like anchor point moves with the swing. Momentum is fucked

>>380210149
>swing
>Spider-Man
You doofus

>>380208781
>>380208763
two bees in a bog

>>380210196
Why? That was another game that used "contextual prompts" that fanboys like you told me totally weren't QTEs and were actual gameplay.

>>380210457
I fucking hate the Order. But the fact is most of the game won't be QTE like the Order was, and you acted like the Order is the only time it happened

>>380206234

Are you telling me that a trailer is scripted? Whoah. What did they mean by this?

>>380205951
The GAMEPLAY demo showed otherwise so i'm calling bullshit.

>>380208434
>2017
>still believing in the summer myth
Fuck off, kids don't lose internet access when the holidays end. Time to stop this outdated meme.

>>380210671
Anon, if you're going to have a spastic hissy please do it alone and not on the internet. It'll be far less embarrassing for you later.

If you want to actually talk calmly about how this game looks like shit and all the shady shit they pulled with this trailer you can stay.

>>380209360
but ultimate spider man was better then spider man 2

>>380209360
The graphics were pretty shit even at the time. They look like smoothed out PS1 models.

>>380208434
>full swing
>implying

>>380211063
>spastic hissy
elaborate

>>380206529
>implying R&C '16 was bad

Kill yourself.

>>380211228
see
>>380210671

>>380205951
Why did the swinging look so slow and floaty, then?

>>380206234
>action segments shown off for a few mins in E3 is the whole game
Holy cow why do I respond

>>380211339
>Projecting
stop. Using one bad word doesn't mean the tone is of anger

>>380211063
>shady shit

what exactly

they showed an arkham ripoff, not shady. shit, but not shady

they showed you running after a helicopter mashing R1 like bat grapple. shit, but not shady

then they showed a stupid QTE/Boss thing that was almost entirely automated. shit but not shady

what was shady

>>380210984
spotted the summer

>>380211464
It's not on PC, that's shady and anti-consumer as fuck you stupid nigger

Reminder that these faggots made Fuse.

>>380205951
Thats nice
are the qtes physics based to?

>>380206614
That was less bad physics and more a shitty player. Look up how the old Spider-Man 2 game played on PS2... oh the glory, I remember begging my parents for that on on my Bday, I think I was 13 or 14, and staying up all night playing it.

>>380211841
>a shitty player
I can assure you, this is the stupidest thing I read all day

>>380211436
This is just pathetic at this point. Why am I even wasting my time with (you)?

>>380212078
Is this a new attempt at trolling?
I'm legitimately confused on how anything I said was spastic

>>380211352
It's a year away from being released. More than sure it'll be worked on.

>>380211706
B-but they also made Ratchet and Clank 1-3!!
and some other games too

>>380211706
Fuse was EAs fault

>>380206686
>Arkham Clone
I dunno m8, combat looks close to spider-man 2, which came out before so it makes sense. Spider sense makes sense for that gameplay style

>>380209360

Shattered Dimensions was great, you colossal pleb.

To everyone complaining about the QTEs, what would you rather? Just have a cutscene with no player involvement where the same shit happens or Just not have those cool sequences and all the actions is just the swinging around and standard combat? because those are the only two options because there is no real intuitive way of controlling Spider-man to do all that crazy shit with the regular play style.

>>380213116
it's mash x with a counter button like arkham. You hit circle and triangle for finishers the same way, the "stealth" works the same way, even the big brute fight at the end was just like the boring brute fights in arkham where they are invincible until you open them up and mash X until a QTE shows up

it was very, very similar to an arkham game. For comparison, spidey 2 involved jumping a lot more to dodge attacks, and spidey had more specific combos that were emphasized.

>>380213815
They're just shit posting famalam

>>380207614
>>380208763
>>380208781
>>380210429
I hole-hardedly agree, but allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go. Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn't take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It's clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the facts. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother's mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it’s a peach of cake.

>>380205951
But its not?

The stress and strain on the webbing, let alone its tauness or slack aren't even shown in any meaningful way.

>>380205951
Cool I'll have to remember this when I'm swinging around the city at 15 mph.

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>>380207349
>people really cognitive dissonance'd themselves into thinking QTE are now """contextual prompts""" which is literally the same thing with a different connotation

>>380213815
show more of the game where the player actually does things

>because those are the only two options because there is no real intuitive way of controlling Spider-man to do all that crazy shit with the regular play style.

1. it is literally the job of the designers to figure this out, it is their problem if they end up with an arkham ripoff

2. fuck you faggot play web of shadows, that game gave you the tools to do crazy spider-man shit

>>380213815
Its fine to have it, just don't make it a huge part of the gameplay reveal you stupid faggot

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>>380205951
>insomniac
Fuck you,all i wanted is Spyro remaster but couldn't do even that.You are worthless!

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>retards on this board actually complaining about scripted elements in an e3 demo as if its any way relevant to what the final product will be like

honestly im just getting too old for this shit now. You are all fucking stupid as fuck and looking for any tiny thread you can cling onto to shit on something, its fucking pathetic and embarrassing. /v/ has always been a shithole but at least it used to be a somewhat validated shithole. I'm convinced this site now is just used by people from other forums when they want to act edgy.

just fuck off, the lot of you idiotic cunts.

>>380209123
If it's not a completely open sandbox that lets you go anywhere and murder anyone, it's scripted and therefore shit.

>>380206529
How bout any of the mainline ratchet games

>>380205951
Now they better explain why they turned the combat system to BamHam.

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>hating QTEs

https://youtu.be/0uZX60akANU

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>>380209453
>MY BALLOOOOOON

>>380214195
>Developers job
Dude, there is a limit to what you can do with buttons and analog sticks. To be able to do the crazy QTE shit manually you would need to control spider-man directly with your brain waves
>Web of Shadows
Good game but it had a shit ton of QTEs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6FUsXnzWOs

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>>380208434
>full swing

>>380214456
Cry more you salty bitch

>>380214456
Don't act like the web swinging wasn't bad

>>380214178
You're retarded

>>380205951
the camera is too close to prove them right

>>380214716
>Good game but it had a shit ton of QTEs

not where it matters (core combat)

in that game spidey was extremely agile, you would be fighting the same enemies on the ground, on the walls, and in the air all in the context of a single combo. the mobility was totally OP, but at least you felt like spider-man

this spider-man moves slower than batman does in his arkham games. he never even fought from the ceiling or move mooks around the battlefield. it's lame

"Too many QTE's"
>Acktshually they're contextual button prompts, totally different
"It's just a shitty Arkham ripoff"
>B-but what would YOU do, Mr. Game Designer kuhuhuh smiley
"The swinging feels floaty and automated"
>It's just the guy playing it, I could do better I bet

Look, I've been a bonafide Spidey fan for a decade now, but the hoops you people jump through to defend Amazing Spider-Man 3 are embarrassing. Is it impossible to accept that games can't always meet your expectations?

Looked fun, I liked that spidey sense was actually represented in gameplay.

How is the Spiderman 2 PC port?

>>380209360
Because Treyarch typically knows what the fuck they're doing, even now in the discomfort zone of CoD. Black Ops 3, despite being mediocre/okay, was sandwiched between two terrible CoD games, being Infinite Warfare and Advanced Warfare.

>>380215404
how can you argue that something feels wrong when you haven't played it yourself you cretin

>>380206234
You already played 90 percent of the game? Nice.

>>380215524
how can you defend a game you haven't played yourself haha gotee

>>380205951
If that's true they showed it really poorly. Spooderman doesn't need a shitty uncharted cinematic trailer

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>>380215659

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>>380206419
>shitty

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>never see pic related get mentioned, not even once
this was a fucking incredible spiderman game, and you could even play as the fucking green goblin
and when you did, there was extra/special dialogue as well
did no one else play it?

>>380209780
I really enjoyed them when they were new, but going back to them years later they're pretty trash and only really notable for fanservice stuff.

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>>380216702
Spiderman One was the tits. That initial training area with Bruce Campbell gets me hard every time.

Contrary to popular opinion I think Spiderman 3 was great too.

That's good but the combat still looks like utter trash.
Very disappointed.

>>380214138
>I definitely know more about the game than the developer, I'm an anonymous poster after all

>QTEs
Why do people on here, and only on fucking /v/ still say this like it is a negative thing? It's a cool way to add things you couldn't add into normal gameplay, and there is still a fuck ton of gameplay.

>>380215414
>port
nigga it was straight different game

>>380205951
>no moon slinging

fucking dropped

>>380218969
Doesn't take a genius to see that he is completely right

>>380205951
I like Insomniac but, the trailer was presented poorly since most of it was just scripted cutscene stuff. I guess they wanted to hide the fact that it was so similar to the Arkham games but, oh well.

>>380219006
>I'm 12 years old and don't remember games ever not taking control away from you every 5 seconds

>>380216702
>invisible wall
>invisible floor
nah nigga

>no moon slinging
Good This will be a good gam-
>Spider Man is black
Dropped.

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I feel like I got a fucking awful monkey's paw wish
>Yes, the swinging is based on physics and not moon swinging but the main story will be comprised of shitloads of boring piss easy Arkham combat, scripted events and QTEs
I went from a potential buy to a guaranteed rent

>>380219382
play the thousands of other games that dont have QTE's then.

>>380219653
>Willingly eating shit

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>>380205951
The swinging looked SLOOOOW as shit
They better have up-gradable swing speed or a swinging boost button
Just look at Spiderman 2 from goddamn 2004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0S5t5ObqH8&t

>>380205951
It was clearly the case from the trailer.

If I had to guess, every 3D object (at least the big ones) have "swing points" coded into them which is why you saw the prompts as you swung on by. Press a button and you shoot a web to that point.

I'm guessing there's some other input to decide how you swing from that point but until we play the game it's hard to say.

>>380219883
what are you talking about? I'm not a fan of spider man or even 3rd person action games so I never experience this qte shit. but it's hardly a giant trend thats in other genres of games.

>>380219897
here's a better video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb8ZhKgieTw

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>>380219897
that swinging speed is exaggerated via camera perspective/fov sliding

you can tell the world stretches when he swings at the lowest point and is done intentionally to make it look faster

>>380205951
Best game shown at e3 by far just wish it was 2017 and had mysterio in it.

>>380220531
Hi, Insomniac employee, I have but one thing to ask about this game.
Who got the Snowbeast Award and why this time around?

>>380219472
Spider man isn't black

>>380220492
Who cares how they did it, it felt good
This looks like shit

>>380219897
That makes it look ass too because he keeps swinging into buildings, doesn't use webzips, wallruns, lamp swings or anything to make it fluid.

>>380220492
So why didn't they do that with this game, then?

is it old insomniac working on this title? Or is it modern insomniac who's been making blunders ever since Crack in Time

>>380221158
I don't know, but I agree that it would improve the swinging experience.

I can't say the motion blur would be welcome, though.

>>380220672
Whats the snowbeast award?

>>380206234
spbp

I'm kind of mystified at all the new /v/ retards defending this qte shitfest, and this is coming from someone that only owns a ps4 from this gen. /v/ really is an absolute trainwreck in 2017.

>>380221795
It's been a running gag in Insomniac ever since Ratchet and Clank Going Commando, that the Insomniac employee who programmed the worst thing in the game gets an "award" for it.
It all started with the Snowbeasts in Going Commando cause they were fucking horsehit and have been doing this for every Insomniac game ever since.

>>380220492
It doesn't matter about the visual effects, because you COULD ACTUALLY build up A LOT of real speed and momentum and shoot through the air with good swinging
seriously just compare >>380220293
to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4zm30yeHHE&t=5m40s
In the second video, spiderman is just SO SLOW in the air (maybe he's intentionally moving at a fixed speed just for this scripted part/demo) and the wall run looks like it moves at a set speed instead of being based off of how much momentum you had when you hit the wall like in Spiderman 2

>>380213815
>Just have a cutscene with no player involvement where the same shit happens or Just not have those cool sequences and all the actions is just the swinging around and standard combat?
the latter. you know, an actual game? it doesn't have to be bad combat either just because it's a game. late '90s born fucknugget retard.

>>380206419
Spiderman is cooler than batman

Threads like this are why I still come to laugh at you people.

Every time anything is revealed you extrapolate how every modern game is complete shit based on a reveal designed to drum up hype.

Parasites can't stay in the /vr/ containment board, I guess.
What makes this extra funny is i'm willing to be most of the "GAMING WAS SO MUCH BETTER 10-15 YEARS AGO" people are barely over 20

>>380222449
Simple people would laugh at anything I guess.

>>380222449
the reason modern mainstream games are shit is because of the stock market interacting with a bunch of other fucked up societal shit like the public school system making everyone retarded.