So did they persuade you to buy one?

>>380193529
No, I own a PC

>>380193686
This. I dont even have a 4k TV, so there is no point buying one.

Nope. I'd honestly just get the Xbox One S cause I don't give a shit about 4k

I would've had to listen to them for that to even be possible.

>>380193529
Maybe after sony's shitshow

No, but why should they have to? Consoles don't exist for smart enthusiast gamers. They will objectively provide worse results every time. They're provided for the uh
you know
"simpletons"

>>380193529
Yes, it is done.

No, but Sony did.

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>>380193529
>buy one
>xbone
>xbones
>xbonex


mfw

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that fucking presentation was soo bad I fucking thought of throwing my old XO away since nothing is coming

I have an OG xbone that I use on the regular, so when the price is right I'll trade it in for an upgrade.

>>380193686
this

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>crossbocross cross

>>380193529
No chance. If M$ was the only console on the market, I still wouldn't buy their garbage.

>>380195591
Kek

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Someone post a PC build that can run games at 60FPS at 4K. Also make it come with a controller as well, for under 500$.

If you can do this I will PayPal you 500$.

>>380193529
for what reason? i own a pc and can play all your games. there is literally no point in buying this dead console

Gotta see the cost on my region, and I will see.

>upscaled 4k at 15 fps
wow

console fans are cucks

>>380196597
You'll save the difference not having to pay to play the games and console you bought online sweetie kuns

>>380193529
Definitely.
I'm not going to fall victim to their GFWL2.0 meme store, and $500 for a 4k gaming device is a competitive price. I already have a 4k TV so I'm ready to go

>>380193686
Yeah. And I'd have to buy a 4k TV on top of the XboX. There are like 2 Xbone exclusives not coming to PC

>>380196597
waiting for you to not keep your word

>>380196597
>60FPS at 4K
Not on x you won't. Maybe MAYBE forza will, but it will sacrifice graphics for it. Not saying it's a shit console, but let's not go nuts.

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>>380197149
>>380197320
>>380197342

Waiting.

I will jump on it if they anounce you can decide between having 4K 30fps or 1080p 60fps for most of the games.

obviously that is if the game doesnt run at 60fps 4K

Kinda yes. Xbone is the logical choice for now. Until PS5 arrives. They did their homework at MS and redeemed the trainwreck xbone was.

>smaller than the 1s

How?

>>380197513
Show me a console that can run 4k at 60fps. Or any console that runs 1080p at 144 hz.

>>380196597
No one is building a brand new computer from scratch. Compare prices for video cards, not entire builds. also,

>60FPS at 4k

That will not be typical

>>380197801
Microhard magic
Get ready for RRoD 2.0

>>380197815
Forza literally was 60FPS at 4K on that Xbox X.

>>380197817
You can get the full rig for 500 that is able to run 4K games. Build me a full PC like that for 500$.

Works even better in 1080p guys are you all retarded

I

>>380193529
No, i can play all their game on PS4 + japan's game.

>>380193529
Not immediately. While 500 for 4k isn't a bad deal, they haven't shown anything that really takes advantage of all that power. Nor will they because they want their games to work on the x and the regular bone. So what's the point? 500 for graphical upgrades and better load times isn't a good deal. If they really want this thing to sell, they need to leave the old xbone in the dust and get some games that fully utilize the system's potential.

They're afraid of doing that because they don't want to piss people off the way they did when they revealed the original xbone. That conference doomed the console to playing second fiddle to PS4, so they want to play it safe this time. They aren't wrong to do that, but at the same time, that approach just cripples xbone x

Until someone builds a full PC that can handle 4K at 60FPS, you need to fuck off with the "you can build a better pc for half that price dude LMAO" shit.

Xbox won. Like it or not.

>>380198993
4k is not needed.

>>380198993
playstations conference wasnt great

but in noway or form did Xbox perform better.

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>>380199309
You sound like old console cucks.
>dude who needs 60fps LMAO
But now that a console can have true 4K you PCbros all of a sudden don't think it's necessary.

LOL.

does it have games yet

>>380199935
Fps = gameplay > graphics

>>380196597

You mean at least 31fps at 4K. Because, let's be real, no way will it run anything past 30fps with a fucking 1060 equivalent gpu unless every game looks like shit.

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Almost certainly not the X because I own a gaming PC with 10 on it but I'm kind of tempted to get a used One or One S now (I dont understand the difference, is it just size?
Please help redpill me Xbros.
>3 generations of games natively
Sounds fucking awesome, I've always been curious about the post Dreamcast Sega games on it and the other obscure cult classics the classic Xbox has.
And I have a few 360 games because I was given one for free and because I hate using the 360 I never finished any of them.
Can I buy these games on the online store or do I need to have the disc? If its disc only thats a pain in the ass a lot of those obscure games are probably $$$$ especially after the announcement
>Console exclusives like Kingdom Hearts 3 and Final Fantasy 15, probably RDR 2 when the time comes
Not sure about any other games in this category but these two (Way less common this gen thankfully), but Kingdom Hearts 3 was going to be the catalyst for me buying a console at some point and I'll still be able to play it on the Bone
>Someone mentioned in an earlier thread that it was capable of emulation (I dont know if more) through dev mode
I'm really curious about what support the Xbone has for playing games for free, homebrew content, emulation, etc.

My only problem right now is what games aren't also on windows 10? Pretty much all I can think of is Killer Instict, Rare Replay, and the I think still nonfunctional Master Chief Collection. I'll never be able to justify buying 90% of the exclusives because I can just play them on PC instead. It doesn't seem to have a single killer app that I couldn't just play somewhere else. Sea of Thieves and Crackdown 3 are exciting but I can't justify not playing them on my PC. On the one hand I love their policy of bringing their games to PC, but on the other I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place because I want an Xbone, but PS4 is going to be the console that releases content my PC won't be able to play.

Fuck no

So, is Super Lucky's Tale only on Xbone/W10?
That, Ori 2, Sea of Thieves and Cuphead kinda make not as regretful about buying an Xbone S.

Why does anyone care about 4k when the models look so undetailed that any benefit 4k brings is completely pointless? Is this shit even true 4k or upscaled? I noticed the ass creed menus were laggy so I guess you don't even get stable 60fps either with the xbox. To be fair, it's early footage

>>380193529
Waiting for games.

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>>380200647
Xbox One S is just a way to shave the ugly off of the VCR original and to add little features like 4k Blueray playback. Not all games from previous gens are available, it's rolling out. Let's be real and say Xbone really has little to no real exclusives. Any emulators in the store will be taken down at a heartbeat since MS doesn't want to deal with any legal issues.

>>380201049
Someone explain to me what's so good about Cuphead. It just looks basic as fuck with an art style intended to milk nostalgiafag wallets.

>>380201049
I think it'll be on steam.
I'll buy it on my xbox though. wouldn't feel right playing it on pc

No I own a PC and the Xbox has no games. They want me to buy OG Xbox titles but I rather buy remakes too.

>>380196597
...You know a 4K TV alone would dwarf the price of any PC including monitor that could run that, right?

>>380201331
>Not all games from previous gens are available, it's rolling out.
Saw that, unfortunate but it makes sense. Can I buy these games on the Bone or am I stuck playing ball with scalpers?

>>380201365
It's supposedly a fun 2d platformer with a consistently 20's art style

My friend was at PAX-E last year

>>380201623
4k tvs are dirt cheap now

I don't think the XboneX is worth buying, but that's not a good argument

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So is Xbox One X worth the price or would you just be better off with a PC or the cheaper xbone S?

Nah I'd rather get a Pro. More games I want. Anything I want on Xbox I already have on PC.

>>380193529
It still is an Xbox One. Why would anyone buy an Xbox One?

>>380193529
yep.

day one purchase

>>380201652
Yeah it's in the normal marketplace for actual Xbone games. It will not play the game off of the disk, you have to dl it first. The disk also has to be in while playing since it acts as a key

>>380201731
You are unquestionably better off with a PC.

As for the XBoneS, wait and see just how badly MS is lying about 4k.

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hnng

>>380201756
Basically this

>>380201731
If you don't own a good pc xbox one x seems like a good option but if you have a decent pc just stick with that.

>>380202019
You can build a better PC for about $100 more than a XBoneX. Two years of not paying for XBox Live makes up the difference right there.

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>>380196597
I can do it for 399.

>>380201652
You can buy it in the store, but you cant use prepaid cards.

>>380197513
who is this gal

>>380201623
My 4K TV cost me $200 on Black Friday

>>380202291
This. 4k gaming is meme tier though

>>380202291
No you can't, i'm a pcfag and i even admit this. You can build a better pc but it would be way more than $100 more.

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>>380198364
>a game showed off at a presentation is indicative of what it will play at release
You do fucking know they all use PCs to simulate consoles in order to easily fix it in case shit breaks, right?

>>380202573
It really won't. The XBoneX is not particularly powerful. A mid-tier CPU and a 580 is equivalent or better.

>>380202291
>$600 PC can run games at 4k at a stable framerate above 30
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No, it'll cost more than one grand to build a 4k capable PC

Xbone X isn't native 4k. I guarantee it. PC would then end up being super cheap to make if that were the case

>>380198364
see
>>380197342
Battleborn can run at 4k on a ps4pro, but it doesn't look great, that doesn't mean there are many 4k games though.

No, they didn't. But Sony's shitty E3 conference did.

Day one purchase now.

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>>380201848
>Yeah it's in the normal marketplace for actual Xbone games
>mfw
>It will not play the game off of the disk, you have to dl it first. The disk also has to be in while playing since it acts as a key
Weird as fuck, but I'll put up with it

Is there really no game to grab my attention and keep it being the console of choice plugged in? No exclusive? No fun multiplayer game thats windows 10 and bone and only alive on bone or something? No game thats played best one Bone because of a really shitty PC port?

If Sea of Thieves is good-great has couch coop that runs good on the S I can justify the purchase because that would be fun as shit with some friends and I cant lug my massive PC to their houses (we tried, it just didn't work).
I need something to justify this purchase more than 3 generations of compatibility with one of them being entirely played better on my PC.

This sucks because I don't want windows 10, am stuck with Windows 10, and my situation would be solved without windows 10.

>>380202573
No it wouldn't.
Doing an apples to apples comparison, a serviceable 4k@mid settings capable tower and a controller won't cost much more than the XB1 does.
It's that on PC we don't generally settle for "serviceable" hence all these $2000 watercooled super rigs used to play shit (but pretty) games on Ultra downsampled from 8k.

>>380193686
This. 144hz>4k anytime for me.

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>>380193529
No. And learn to shit in a fucking toilet, Pajeet.

>>380202821
The XBox One X also can't run every game at 4k. Notice that half the games in the conference were just "enhanced" rather than "play in 4k"? And yeah, plenty of budget PCs can play indie shit in 4k. Intel's integrated graphics can fucking do that.

It'll cost you more than a grand if you want 4k60 on most-all games at max settings. But XBoxX can't do 4k60 on most to all games on anything approaching PC max settings.

I dont know if I'll run out and pay $500 for an Xbone X but at least it showed off a variety of games and backwards compatibility is enough to make me think about getting an Xbone S way down the line.

I still cant believe Sony dropped the ball so hard this year that MS had a decent confererence in comparison. I cant believe they didnt show off anything interesting like Yakuza 6.

>>380202817
>>380203025
While i havent seen any gameplay and performance from the xbox one x, if it has 12gb of vram you'd need a good video card for that and considering the 4/580 are purpose built 1080p card it would cost alot more than $100 extra

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>>380203023
I'm not exactly saying that what MS showed off is terrible, but to have that presentation with the full announcement of a, practically, new console? Nearly all the multi-plats I'll play on my PC since it's just more adjustable to how I want, but actual console exclusives like Crackdown and the fact most of my friends play Xbox is what's keeping me anchored to the damn thing. There ARE good games on the Xbox but if you're playing alone, there's no reason to buy one.

>>380203804
It has 12GB RAM total. That ram is split between VRAM and regular RAM.

N

>>380196597
The thing is that it's not that hard too achive since console games usually use low to mid settings and almost no AA

>>380193529
Yes it looks like the most economical way into 4K gaming for me as I only own a shitty laptop

>>380203804
>12gb of vram
This is wrong. That is combined ram, I have more system ram than that alone.

>>380203941
And if it's anything like the other versions, 2-3 gb of that will be reserved for the OS

Yea I'll trade in my One S and get the X when it comes out, Ive always been an xbro tho. I really dont want Xbox to die also, so that factors into it as well.

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PC gaming is too much of a hassle to pick up so I'm considering this. I'll still have my ps4 for weeb shit.

>>380204452
confirmed 9gb are for games
and the rest 3gb for the OS

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>>380196597
>run games at 60FPS at 4K
Here you go, have fun playing morrowind at 4k 60fps, paypal above.

>>380193529
look at their launch trailer. they don't want cis white males. the future is brown and female.

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>>380203869
>There ARE good games on the Xbox but if you're playing alone, there's no reason to buy one.
Oh well, maybe when the price goes down a bit. It looks like it might have a decent eclectic collection of couch multiplayer games on it that would make it fun to bring to my friends house.

There's a bunch of indie multiplayer games with no fucking online on PC like Nidhogg, Duck Game, Castle Crashers, Crawl, Gang Beasts that look interesting but I haven't bought them because how am I going to play them on my PC? If the Xbone is getting decent multiplat support in that area I may pick it up. The 360 selection looks weird but I'm finding a lot of thing I would be interested on it like Sonic the FUCKING FIGHTERS for 5 dollars, I didn't know that game was available outside of arcades.

I hate Black consoles, they're boring.

1st special edition or new color I'll buy day 1.

>>380203207
I didn't say the Xbox would be able to do it, in fact I agree with you when you say that it won't be able to do it for all games, I was just pointing out it'll cost a whole lot more than $500 to build a PC that can do 4k on high graphical games, like Anthem

Please recommend a console

Seeking a console without games indie (independent)


no Internet access.


Which has more and most games for all ages and all audiences (E For Everyone in ESRB and 3 in PEGI)


Where there are very few violent games.

N

>>380196597
A decent CPU, some ram and a 970 can get you 4k with the graphics and fps of Xbone X or even better. Most consoles are in the low-medium settings range so it's not too hard to ahicve that in 4k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rGNfveTD4Q

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>>380204847
DONT YOU MEAN SKYRIM ANON?!

>>380193686
Yep. There's literally no point in the xBon3x when all the games are coming to PC anyway.

>>380205352
Sure. But the point was XboxX equivalent or slightly better. And if you think Xbox is doing 4k60 on Anthem I don't know what to tell you.

The game isn't even made yet. They have no way of knowing how it's actually going to run. It could do a bullshot demo in 4k60. You really haven't learned your bullshot demo lessons by now?

>>380205427
buy a wii

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>>380193529

Very unlikely, but at least less so than with the original Bone.

Main problem MS has is their complete lack of exclusives that interest me at all. They basically have Killer Instinct that kind of looks neat, and then a billion multiplats that I cannot affect my purchase decision. I don't give the least fuck about your Forzas or other Chad games.

If Microsoft announced let's say 4-5 extremely promising Japanese games of Nier Automata tier, I could be interested.

The stupid thing about console upgrades is that most games that came out before the console launch won't get good support apart from maybe super sampling or better fps for more recent games. It's only really worth it for games in the future, that's where PC will always have the advantage depending on your built of course

>>380205728
And why the Nintendo Wii?

Do you give good reasons to buy a Wii?

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>>380196597
>>380204847
holy kek you are one insane anon

>>380205858
They did announce a bunch of neat looking platformers, indieshit, and one weeb game.

I just need a better PC

>>380203804
>it has 12gb of vram
You're a fucking idiot.

t. computer scientist

>>380206063

I don't like platformers or indieshit. The weeb game (Code Vein) looked admittedly interesting, but it's not an exclusive.

>>380203804
Man i'm a console fag and i even i know more about hardware than most PCfags let alone you. Learning a few words and numbers isn't that hard

>>380206032
It sounds to me like you want a console for a child (no internet and non-violent shit).
It had plenty of nonviolent E rated games, no indieshit, and didn't need internet for most things. The only issue is it had a ton, and i mean a TON of shovelware, but there are enough first party nintendo games to make it still worth it.

>Sony abandons indies and only shows AAA Western games
>Microsoft's whole conference is practically indies and weebshit
Wait what happened?

>>380206416
>abandons
Most of the weebshit just happens at TGS or PSX

>>380206346
>>380206204
I didn't look into it and general GDDR5 translates to just vram.

>>380206057
What the fuck

>>380205725
When did I say that it would be 4k60 for Xbox?, I just said that a $500 PC wouldn't be able to do 4k for a game like Anthem.

>>380206401
I prefer a console that does not need the internet at all.


And is there a FIFA, Madden NFL, and realistic racing game on Wii?

>>380204373
that's ddr4 at best
This is gddr5. Way better.

>>380206806
You never know that, they might actually use the Frostbite engine as well as Dice this time. And the thing is despite being "4k" usually consoles still just use low or medium settings, if you'd do the same on PC you could easily run it with a 970. A 970 and a decent i5 can run even Arkham Knight at 4k with way better settings than consoles

>>380206416
>>Microsoft's whole conference is practically indies and weebshit

indies and weebshit that is either launching at the same time that it does on xbone, or will be launching on PS4 like 2-3 months after xbone gets it.

whoop de fucking doo

Run all your games with super low settings now at 4k.
It's the same shit as the Pro just slightly better, the CPU will still be a huge bottleneck

>>380193529
No, I don't care about AAA tech demo 'games' that you play once and forget.

>>380193529
I always do the exact opposite of what /v/ says and it works every time.

>>380206598
Xbone and PS4 are APU's or AMD CPU's with integrated AMD graphics on the same chip. They use the system RAM as both regular RAM and VRAM for graphics. These are also on PC, both AMD and Intel offer integrated graphics, which run off of the system RAM. Consoles can get away with using GDDR5 for the whole system, since they are primarily targeted for gaming, while using GDDR RAM for PC's would be inefficient. PC's use DDR for system, the downside being that integrated graphics can only use that for RAM in games. Graphics cards have their own RAM on the card itself separate from system RAM, which was an innovation in the 90's because PC interfaces at the time were far too slow to use system RAM for 3d graphics. (Even PCI-e is still too slow for RAM, which is why Crossfire and SLI don't double VRAM).

>>380206057
Holy shit

>>380207007
the wii has internet but doesn't need it for anything since most of the games are single player or local multiplayer (splitscreen) based. It has need for speed and other racing games, madden, and fifa.

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>>380193529

No.

>>380207247
Both of Sony's major Japanese titles, NNK2 and MonHun, are multiplat. Two last year, FFXV and Nier Automata, were also multiplat. Whoop de fucking doo indeed.

>>380193686
fpbp

>>380193529
>everything also coming out on Windows
nah

>>380193686
4k monitors/capable GPU that you can game with cost 10x more than a 4k TV

>>380207742
Crossplay with different framerates would be retarded. 60fps on the PS4 Pro would be dumb too.

>>380207792
nier isn't on xbox one. 17 of the 22 '''exclusives''' xbox showed are timed and are gonna show up on ps4 AND on steam

Nah, I'm sure it will be a decent console though.

>>380207618
Didn't know APUs were like that on consoles.

>>380193529
>Want to play these games on PC
>requires Windows 10
Fuck off Microsoft, I don't want your shitty spyware

>>380196597
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YPshwV
i had to cut so many fucking corners
can play many games 4k 60 fps (some modern some not i don't have time for a list)
will get a little hot but can stay alive
get a cardbord box for a case and it might be even smaller than a xbox one
buy a wired xbox 360 controller for 12 bucks or if you have a wireless controller buy a wireless receiver for 12
[email protected] is my paypal
ready to be fucking scammed.

>>380206057
an anon that follows through? this has got to be a first

>>380193529
lmfao no

>>380206806
We can't even tell yet, for all we know the game might be really well optimized or won't look anything like that when it comes out. And 4k isn't that hard to achive with console graphic settings.
The biggest problem is though that the Xbone X won't help you with older games as much as PC since devs will have to specifically make patches for each game unless you just want upscaling or super sampling and most devs just don't care enough. It basicly only good for games that release after the console or some exclusives

>>380207665
Any other Wii game that you recommend me?


Remember, Only games Rated E For Everyone in the ESRB

And i hate pokemon and the legend of zelda

>>380208203
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YPshwV
Where's the case and controller?

>>380206057
well this is epic

>>380196597
>>380206057
Nice. Send me $250 just because I believed you would pay out

paypal.me/MCGates

>>380208440
Do you have autism? Not 4chan autism, but actual, diagnosed autism.

>>380208440
Pretty much anything nintendo made, xenoblade chronicles, maro stuff, donkey kong, etc. I honestly don't know much about the console, i just know it fits your requirements perfectly. It had a lot of 3rd party support back then because it was before the big publishers stopped making shit for nintendo, so just do some research

>>380208598
i told you , get a box, it won't get hot and will be the size of a console
hell put it under your desk, it suprisingly works
i don't know how to add a controller, but wired controllers are 12 bucks and wireless controller receivers are 12.

>>380209024
I only look for Rated E For Everyone video games on the ESRB


No violent video games please

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMguSriiu3U

>>380208130
I guys you'll need to buy the xbone

No, I already own XO and PS4 and if I wanted better graphics, I would buy gaming PC instead of toaster laptop I own now.

>>380197285
Which?

>>380202515
She's from Tsukihime, it's just Fate shit.

Have a GTX1080TI and an Acer Predator XB271HU monitor, so no.

>>380196597
4k is a meme idiot

and it will run a tiny handful of games at that

muh 4k racing game xD