The Kommandant

>>380191975
for a second there I really thought it was going to be another fallout desu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Holtaiunes

Might as well post this here since the old Wolfenstein thread was archived. We were discussing whether the Nazis liked the Klan and another anon said the Nazis disapproved of lynching. The only thing I was able to find was a post on le reddit's askhistorians community:

>It was not that figures like Damsleth disapproved of lynching and the Klan per se, but rather they saw the KKK's freestyle violence as emblematic of an uncontrolled and uncultured America that also found expression in the Jitterbug, jazz music, and ferro-concrete skyscrapers.

So there would be tension between the Nazis and the Klan, but it hardly seems insurmountable. If the Nazis were able to reign in the Klan and make them more of an official police force instead of a roving band of vigilantes, it would make sense for them to use the organization in an alternate history.

>>380191975
#notallfascists

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>>380192903
Both are scum

My milkshake brings all the jews to the yard
And I'm like 'stuff them into train cars'

I like him better than the afro sass niggress and the marxist couple that do drugs while expecting a kid.
Is that what the developers intended?

>>380191975
Would show identification papers to.

>>380193314
>triggered sjw detected

>>380191975
>Trailer made me want to side with nazi's
Horrible E3.

>>380193314
not the point of the argument tbqh famalam

>>380192903
>brazenly admits to visiting Reddit
Why don't you fucking stay there? We don't want you people on /v/.

>>380192903
The Third Reich would be COMPLETELY opposed to extra-millitary group running around conducting vigilante justice.

Like it's not even a hard concept, there is no way the KKK would ever exist in a nazi controlled territory unless you're completely ignorant of history

It was obviously thought up by some dumb fuck SJW who honestly thought the KKK and Nazis are all the same, whose never actually bothered learning anything about them outside of twitter.

>>380191975
>Kommandant
>Classy, charming, polite
>Sassy afro woman
>Shiiiiieeeet it a white boi I see

>>380192903
The bigger issue would be that the KKK are highly religious and the nazis ultimately wanted to get rid of christianity in favor of a homegrown doctrine.

>>380191975
>nazi
good looking, has manners acts like a decent person

>"good" guys
dirty commie assholes with no respect for the authorities FUCK THE POLICE WHITE BOI

>>380194151
Like I said, the key words are extra-military and vigilante. If the Nazis made the Klan "official," like the Vichy government was the Nazi's proxy in France, it would make sense.

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>mfw from another timeline and have no identification papers

>>380194287
It sorta depends. Hitler came up with this idea of "Positive Christianity," which might have been amenable to the Klan.

>>380192903
I honestly can't see the KKK trading freedom for totalitarianism even if they are the biggest fags in US history.

>>380192903
Not to mention that the KKK was heavily intro-woven with AMERICAN nationality and religion, which are the complete opposite of Nazi doctrine.

Why would Hitler let an AMERICAN religious group run around putting themselves above nazi law?

They would literally be some of the first against the wall.

Stupid as fuck.

>>380191975
Same
>depict a literally perfect world
>but niggers and kikes can't enjoy it! Doesn't that make you angry!?

>>380193563
>defending genocidal sociopaths and a clan that executes people because they were born black

i'm not the biggest fan of black people. I also voted for Trump. I believe women are inferior to men. long story short, i'm not an SJW, but I'm also not a delusional, emotionally detached piece of shit who fantasizes about killing ethnic people

you're a racist because it's a way of putting yourself over other people that doesn't require you to work for it. you're a fucking cretin

>>380194470
How the fuck doesn't care thier ID?

>>380194887
>depict a literally perfect world
Its literally a police state, even the whites in the Diner were scared.

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>>380191975

i was in until the sheboon started calling people whiteboy. fuck this bernie sanders reddit sjw nigger shit.

>>380194904
>defending genocidal sociopaths and a clan that executes people because they were born black
That's a gross mischaracterization of both groups.

>>380194151
Why are the Nazis teaming up with the Klan more "unrealistic" or "less true to history" than Nazis building giant robots or trying to summon demons or whatever? Maybe the Nazis wouldn't have tolerated the Klan, but then again, they wouldn't have built fucking mecha either. Wolfenstein needed American villains this time, and what other distinctively American groups would team up with the Nazis?

>>380194904
Why did you bite the bait man.

>>380195174
Probably both kikes.
Literally no reason to be afraid otherwise.

I don't think one should let political differences ruin relationships.

That said, I had a friend that literally advocated genocide and that was quite a strain.

>>380196015
genocide is literally no different than a mother bear defending her cubs

>>380195393
Because it's dumb and turns the game into an absurdist fantasy shooting gallery for millenials

>look over there it's a nazi! Shoot him!

>look to your right, its a Clansman! Shoot him!

>look up! it's a flying religious conservative! I bet he doesn't think gay marriage is the best thing ever! Shoot him and collect your tokens, get 100 tokens and you can trade them in for some pink hair dye or septum piercing!

>>380191975
>Show me your identification papers
I'll show you my double barrel in your face, dirty Nazi

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>>380196213

>>380196218
It's just a video game.

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>>380192903

>>380196218
>look over there, it's a nazi robot! shoot it!

>look to your right, it's a demon! shoot him!

>whoah, mecha-hitler is the final boss! Hit his face for maximum damage!

How is that any less absurdist? Hope you're not gonna argue that any of that was any more historically accurate than the Klan possibly making an accommodation with the Nazis in an alternate history

>>380191975
He seemed like a nice friendly fellow.

>>380196213
You are just being an edgy underager trying to be cool, but he was a grown ass adult who advocated nuclear war.

>>380196218
that's what it always was you sperg, you fight magic hitler clones in the first few games

>>380196803
Right, that picture's been reposted a hundred fucking times. It was released late in the war to make fun of American hypocrisy over Germany's treatment of Jews. In an alternate history where Germany won, as I said above, I don't see why they wouldn't make the Klan an "official" body like the Vichy government was, reign in their unruly tendencies, and use them as a proxy police force. It's not inconceivable.

What the fuck was the point of that scene in the trailer?
That was a complete Inglorious Basterds opening scene ripoff.

Uh-uh-uh. Wait for the creme.

>>380194942
a jew, literally

>>380197032
nuclear war makes a lot less sense than chemical war when you stop and think about it. you friend sounds pretty stupid

>>380197181
>DELETE THIS IMAGE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>380191975
Adolf Hitler was the founder of the KKK. It's pretty realistic. I don't get the problem?

>inb4 SJW

>>380197452
nice argument

>>380192903
You're putting too much thought into a game that shoved those two groups together just because they believe its a witty commentary on modern America.

Really have no clue why the writing team shit the bed, that drop acid scene was just weird.

>>380197620
and you

>>380197181
>the Third Reich, who value law and order, would totally let a bunch of redneck christian hicks run around enacting their own justice outside nazi law

Just admit you know nothing about Nazis beyond movies and games and get out of the thread.

>>380196218

Mate, you control a giant robot dog and burn down nazis in power suits with a flamethrower. Even the first one had Nazi moon bases and jew magic. Shit's pretty absurd.

>>380191975
>The Kommandant
what the fuck is someone of his rank doing checking id cards

>>380197637
>just because they believe its a witty commentary on modern America.
Not everything has to be a statement or a commentary.
Kys SJW/altrighter.

>>380196840
When I shoot mecha-wizard Hitler, it's not demonizing very real people who you may then decide not to like based on what you're told they believe.

>>380192903
The KKK hated Nazis. They hate black people, but that's not all - They also love America. They'd never submit to Nazi rule. It'd be hilarious seeing the KKK and blacks teaming up to fight Nazis.

>>380197080
There is a difference between killing Nazis and killing anti-trump boogey men like the KKK in a fucking Wolfenstein game

It's the equivalent of having Dracula team up with aliens in a castlevania game you stupid fuck, they're not related in any way.

>>380197605
>Six Confederate veterans from Pulaski, Tennessee created the original Ku Klux Klan on December 24, 1865

Source: WIkipedia

>>380195393
Fascist League of North America, German American Bund, Silver Legion of America, American Nazi Party (with a different origin, they were formed in '59). It's not that hard to find, they just had to look. Also as a little aside my phone insisted that Bund was Buns.

>>380191975
Strawberry milkshake best flavor. Maybe in another life we could have been friends.

>>380197782
Right right, I know the Nazis were orderly bastions of civilization, but the point I was making is that their love for "law and order" would be satisfied by controlling the Klan, shaping it up, and using it as a controlled, well-ordered auxilliary instead of simply doing away with it entirely. How would that be "historically inaccurate?"

>>380195583
They were shown to be as White as he is.

>>380197959
I don't think it's implying that's how he spends his time or anything, he's just suspicious of the protagonist.

>>380197421
He is actually pretty smart. We were both in a physics program and I believe he later became an engineer.

He looked and talked like a low IQ Chad though.

>>380197959

Obviously BJ is a big enough threat for this to be a special exception, tard

>IT'S....JUST....NOT....REALISTIC!! PLEASE LISTEN TO MEEEEEEEEEEEE!

God damn, people. This is just pathetic now.

>>380192903
It is insurmountable. Most southern Klan had black in him around that time. Nazis don't do race mixing, and the KKK itself had minor splinter factions over whether or not to even endorse the Nazi's so what would most likely happen is both parties (and several splinter secs of KKK, mostly southern and Northern secs) would fight one another in most likely violent guerilla style combat. Both KKK and Nazis are super national too, so there's also gonna be tension there too.

Pretty much zero way Nazis and KKK come together on anything except a broad "i fucking hate those jews and blacks"

>>380198656
>and using it as a controlled, well-ordered auxilliary instead of simply doing away with it entirely. How would that be "historically inaccurate?"
Well it would be in the fact that IT NEVER HAPPENED

>>380198025

Demonizing who? Nazis? Because they're already universally been demonized and with good reason too.

>>380198234
>it's the equivalent of having Dracula team up with aliens in a castlevania game

I know Aria of Sorrow had laser guns at least, wouldn't surprise me if they did a Vampire Hunter D type thing where a future castle has aliens and cyborgs in it.

>>380198234
Except that sounds fucking amazing.

>>380194151
>The Third Reich would be COMPLETELY opposed to extra-millitary group running around conducting vigilante justice.
So brown shirts don't count eh.

>>380198234
does it count when dagon and cthulu were in some of the castlevania games

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post yfw nazi scum

>>380198234
are you implying that aliens in castlevania wound't be the hypest shit? the games already rip off a ton of classic horror movie shit like frankenstein so it wouldn't be too far off

Me too, OP. But not before I laced his with ricin. All Nazis must die.

>>380198914
Yeah, because the nazis NEVER ACTUALLY CONQUERED the US. In an alternate history where they did, that's another question.

>>380198902
Now this is interesting. I figure in the Nazi future, though they probably have some way to screen for "pure white" members, and like you said, it's possible a splinter faction of the KKK that supported the Nazis ended up winning over all the other factions. So in reality, we'd have a lot of friction between various race/nation groups, but in a world where the Nazis conquered the US, I don't think it's unreasonable to say that a Nazi-supporting Klan faction took power and serves as a useful tool for Nazi rulers.

>>380198234
>He doesn't want to kick Mothmans ass using Draculas spinal cord as a whip.

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>>380198234
From the guy that came up after the trailer I think the point was to take the over the top nonsense from the original reboot and take it to another level
>not wanting Dracula to team up with aliens

>>380199812
Wrong.

They are completely different ideologies except for the fact they're both racist(by modern standards)

The fact that you think the KKK and Nazis would "team up" is based on nothing beyond your pathetic anti-white fantasies created in your own broken brain and reinforced by other broken brain individuals on whatever shithole, SA Neogaf or Reddit, that you came from.

>>380197959
Look at the image.
BJ has his face printed on every walls with a big WANTED above his head.

>>380194756
>biggest fags in US history
The klan is up there, but I think the fucking Weather Underground has that "honor".

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>>380192903
the nazis did not like the KKK.

>>380200770
Nazi ideology wasn't that similar to Japanese ideology (as far as I know, the Fuhrer was not considered the Divine Father of the German people) but they teamed up in WWII. Still don't see why it's inconceivable the Nazis might work out whatever their differences with the Klan were in an alternate history.

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Wolfenstein is known in China as 德军总部(Déjūn Zǒngbù), which translates to "German Headquarters 2".

>>380196218
>the game into an absurdist fantasy

oh, so you've never played a video game before?

>>380201103
>>380196803
you guys know that this is a norwegian poster, not a German one, right?

http://ww2propaganda.blogspot.com/2011/04/kultur-terror-liberators.html

>it's an anti-american, pro-axis poster made by norwegian artist Harald Damsleth

>norwegian artist Harald Damsleth

>>380200770
Holy shit, you're one triggered polly

>muh nazis were perfect unlike filthy klansmen

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>make a silly B-movie style game with the Nazis controlling America, Jew spacemagic and a women straight from a Blaxplotation film
>REEEEEEEE THIS ISNT HISTORICALLY ACCURATE

>fergus wyatt and max hass are all alive
?

>>380201798
?

I never said that, good job projecting your own biases onto my post though.

I'm sure in your insane fantasy land the evil KKK, Nazis, Skinheads and Holocaust deniers are all good friends and work together towards a common goal, you stupid fucking twat.

>>380198365
You know racists can edit wikipedia right?

please for the love of god say there is a section where you kill KKK members more importantly why are the nazis putting upwith the KKK they are the clowns of racists

>black woman assumes the protagonist is a nazi because he's a FUCKING WHITE MALE
How racist.

>>380201332
They didn't team up, they were war time allies.

That's not even comparable to the idea that the Third Reich, a totalitarian fascist dictatorship that hated american ideals, would let a bunch of nationalist racist hillbillies break the law and lynch people.

So many children in this thread who are proud to be ignorant of history. That right there is why Trump won by the way.

>>380203918
fuck off /pol/

>>380204148
Everything I typed is true.

>>380204241
fuck
off
/pol/

>>380204070
Nazis didn't really hate Americans. Hitler saw Americans as mostly ethnic Germans who went and found their own lebensraum.

>hated American ideals
They hate us for our freedumbs.

The ideals Nazis hated most were communist ideals, they practically existed as a reaction to leftist/communist attempts to take over Germany in the first place.

>>380204556
Don't be such a baby.

>>380204840
But Nazis are about the state being greater than the individual while Americans are directly opposite that belief, putting the state before the individual in communism happened more often than not

Daily reminder that Wolfenstein was never good

>>380194151
Except the Nazis did use extra-military groups like this to fight partisans, conduct searches for political enemies, and help police occupied territories. Ukrainians in Poland, for example.

>>380205236
go back to /pol/ your bullshit is not wanted here

>>380205376
>being this much of a cuck

lmao fucking faggot

>>380205376
Tell me what was wrong with what I said.

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>>380205491

>>380204840
This wasn't some sort of ideological or even ethnic civil war. In this alternate timeline Germany has defeated America in a war. Why on earth would the Germans want to promote American nationalism in German occupied America? That just seems stupid

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why do Americans have such a hard time understanding fictional media?

>>380205517
stop being worried about white peoples future its not in any danger stop being a retard

>>380204070
Like >>380205375
said the Nazis did use native extramilitary groups for those purposes, so I dunno why they wouldn't do so in the US.

>>380205724
That has nothing to do with what I said.

>>380202223

I fucking hated the Tarantino style they went for, which is a shame because I really liked the gunplay.

>>380205829
just go back to /pol/ already and stop trying ot make a big deal out of a video game

>>380191975
>we want the tarantula audience

>>380194887
>they already had a moonbase before the 80's
that's fucking impressive

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>>380194904
the batman will get you strawman and all your arguments, better look out

>>380196803
that would make an awesome monster to fight in a dark souls or silent hill game.