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goodnight sweet prince Fisher

>>380118678
Call me a faggot but I unironically feel like crying, this was supposed to be the year.

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>>380118678
F

:(

I kept waiting for that sound...

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>we wuz assassins: rehash #50
>reskinned Far Cry 3
>The Crew 2
>LITERALLY WHO ASKED FOR THE CREW 2
>a skiing game
>a toy game

>>380118678
No, Splinter Cell needs to die. Nu-Ubisoft would destroy whatever is left of the franchise.

>>380118678
this. instead they fucking decide to make a prequel for something people have wanted a sequel to for 15 years what a bunch of fucking idiots.

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>>380118678
fucking F

>>380120179
I would much rather play another Blacklist than 90% of what they showed.

>>380118678
F

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I miss you samuel

>>380120154
>THE CREW 2
i wonder how the sales were for the first one. I thought it sold like trash which surprised me when they announced the second iteration.

fuck me

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>tfw they showed those green lights before Far Cry 5
THEY'RE LITERALLY MAKING FUN OF US

>>380120179
Nu-Nu

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maybe, next year

You know guys know it wouldn't be the same without Ironside

I even replayed the series a while ago, why do I do this to myself?

>>380122607
Yes it would, Blacklist was miles ahead of Conviction and Double Agent. MGSV replaced Hayter and it was still a great fucking game.

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>stage lights up in green
>it's FC5: Trump's America edition

>>380121838
Every fucking year I say that.

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>>380123024
>Blacklist was miles ahead of Conviction and Double Agent
>miles ahead
>miles
>ahead

>>380118678
F

>>380119870
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC0KTDMPx5E
;_;

>>380118678
This would be the only announcement I was hyped for and I didn't got it. For fuck sake, they could even put an simple Sam Fisher DLC in Ghost Recon Wildlands and I would be okay with it, but no, instead we got nothing, absolutely nothing.

But was still a good conference tho.

>>380122761
They are good games who still hold up tho.

>>380128398
It would instantly win E3 for me.

>Ubisoft in their infinite retardation completely fuck up the release window for Blacklist
>release it current gen only just before next gen consoles come out
>up against GTA V
>be surprised when it inevitably underperforms
>kill the series immediately

>>380131072
It performed well if I remember correctly. They just don't have any fucking clue where to take the series next.

>>380132181
They wanted 5 million copies, it sold about 2-3.

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>>380132181
More of the same I guess. A few tweaks here and there. In the superspy world of Splinter Cell, there must be an infinite supply of terrorist organization active globally for le globe trotting operator.

>>380132181
Just do Blacklist 2. I liked the way it handled missions. It even had a sequel hook at the end.

>>380126874
Did you even play Blacklist? It was great

>>380120671
NEVER EVER AGAIN EVER

>but they did it in blackli-

AND THEY FUCKED IT UP

>>380133716
it was a decent generic action game at best. It was a very poor splinter cell.

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>>380118678
am i the only one that liked conviction?

it's not a stealth game by any means but it was fun.

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>>380118678
>When you realize the Chaos Theory team is long gone at Ubisoft Mtl

>>380133965
Are you kidding me? Playing that game ghost style was Splinter Cell experience since Chaos Theory.

It was an action game only if you made it so.

>>380118678
It's better this way. The other option is open world run n gun splinter cell

>>380120671
Rank all of em

>>380133716
You're the reason Splinter Cell will never be good again

>>380134267
No Splinter Cell game is a bad game, just some are better at stealth than others.

>>380134267
Hold down on the d-pad to put away your gun and go melee only, then it's really fun.

>>380134267
unironically like it more than blacklist. Blacklist tries to be CT and fails. Convcition is what it is and feels way more jason bourne like. Animations were miles better.

>>380118678
White protagonists aren't progressive enough anymore.

>>380135550
Like the mobile one, or Essentials?

>>380135550
Explain why you have a stick up your butt about blacklist that doesn't include VA or optional loud solutions to levels, that have always been in the games.

>>380134267
Same, I've actually killed in every Splinter Cell as much Terrorists as possible, the only difference in Conviction was for me that I couldn't throw them in the shadow, but else it had almost no difference in terms of gameplay for me.

>>380135997
>>380135656

>>380136292
Oh shit, forgot about those. Well, no properly released Splinter Cell games have been bad.

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>>380134386
>It was an action game only if you made it so
If I have the option to go guns blazing, its not a stealth game you dumb faggot

>>380134267
Do you realize that game almost killed the Hitman franchise?

>>380136571
I can go full tacticool and shoot everyone I see in New Vegas, does that make it less of an RPG and more of an FPS?

>>380135856
Exactly. Conviction is pretty decent for what it is. But Blacklist is the classic "we're going back to our roots" while actually targeting the mainstream audience. It always happens in franchises that had its most beloved game long ago.

>>380136571
Just because it's an option doesn't mean you have to take it you dumb faggot.

The levels were designed around it being stealthy. You can go guns blazing in mgs and hitman. Are those not stealth games?

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>>380137257
>the classic "we're going back to our roots" while actually targeting the mainstream audience

this nigga gets it

>>380137020
Wow, this is a truly retarded reply

>>380118678
Every game since chaos theory has been shit.

>>380137257
>"we're going back to our roots"
I actually never got this with Blacklist, sure, it remembered how to be a stealth game, but it was still a lot more fast-paced and killing-oriented than the original SC games.

>>380124440
>#RESIST was written inside that bus

What the fuck?

>>380137515
>retarded statement gets a retarded reply
What's the problem?

>>380137839
Tell me I wasn't the only one to see that

>>380137398
>You can go guns blazing in MG and hitman

You know how I know you are a casual? You dont play the hardest difficulty

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>>380137735
Which is why they always lie when they say it

>>380138382
Bait

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Yves just said that they "haven't forgotten about Splinter Cell". Take it as you will.

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I would have been happy with an MGS V with Splinter Cell skin.

>>380139049
>You can go guns blazing on the hardest difficulty in hitman

Keep lying bro

>>380141124
Bait

>we will unironically get another The Crew and The Division game before Splinter Cell

>>380118678
i'd rather it stay dead than suffer through another abomination like the last 2 games have been
also look at the current shit ubisoft has been dishing out... do you really want another Splinter Cell game made by these hacks?

>>380138918
I don't think anyone believes that a major developer will make a pure stealth game nowadays though.

>>380141643
Hows middle school these days

>>380143241
Do I even need to say it.

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>>380143185
Which is fine but you get underage fags defending these game that you can go guns blazing as stealth games, they simply arent. Its fucking "Gone home is a real video game" all over again

>>380143574
Instead of shouting bait, why not defend your position. Please tell us how call of duty is a stealth game since there are silencers

>>380143794
Don't try and make a strawman.

But fine. I never said anything about hardest difficulty. But if you want to hamhandedly bring that up, you should probably know that it's the same in Blacklist. Guns blazing isn't an option on the highest difficulty.

But if you were turned off from the series because of conviction and never gave blacklist a try, I can see why one wouldn't know that.

>>380143794
If COD was build as a stealth game, yet featured an option to go loud in an emergency BUT letting you take only a few bullets before your character drops dead, I would consider it a stealth game with a tacked on shooter mode.

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>>380141124
He's right tho

i used to main an unsuppressed MP5 in codename47, silent assassin and blood money and wiping out the entire map is ez pz
hardest difficulties by the way.

as for MGS3 as soon as you find the M60 you can wipe out everyone, same for MGS2 if you find the AK, and don't get me started about about GZ or TPP, you could go around exterminating everybody with a fucking handgun

>>380144860
>don't get me started about about GZ or TPP, you could go around exterminating everybody
This. I can clear a camp in minutes with Quiet, even call in a fucking airstrike, but somehow MGSV has amazing gameplay while Blacklist is casualized garbage.

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>Thief is dead
>MGS is dead
>Splinter Cell is dead
>Hitman is dead
I just wanted to squat in shady corners ffs

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>>380145681
>>380144860
Mouth breathers

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We had fun, It's for the best.

>>380146446
This poster is a list of logical fallacies that figured out how to use a keyboard

>>380146446
This is no argumento senor faggot

>>380120720
All I know is I got the game for free for who knows what reason. It wasn't even long after release that they started giving it away too.

>>380146912
>>380146896
I can literally picture you two with your sausage fingers talking about how you have over 100,000 hours logged into world of warcraft

>>380120693
Blacklist was fucking trash, especially that retarded FPS segment at the end. The series will NEVER return to the Chaos Theory glory days.

>>380147170
Not that hard when you just have to look in the mirror huh

>>380147370
WOWWWW. All because you can go gunz blazing and there are action parts through out most of the game does not mean its not stealth shitlord.

>>380118678
It sucks but it's better to burn out than to fade away.

Honestly, how many rapings and beatings would you want of a game franchise before you call it quits? Splinter Cell had a good run. Best to discontinue the franchise and try to make something new.

>>380147170
literally never played world of warcraft

>>380123024
no it wouldn't.

besides, canonically, Sam is too old to do Splinter Cell work and there are other Splinter Cells by the time he retired.

Ubisoft should build around those.

>>380136085
Controls like AssCreed, shitty FPS segment, line of sight waist high cover stealth play (instead of Thief style stealth play), continues butchering Sam Fisher as a character, running and gunning not punished enough (character is way too strong--stealth requires vulnerability to work well, hence why Dishonored failed as a stealth game), oh and they still didn't bring back CT's sound meter. Need more faggot?

>>380147738
Stealth is predicated on the player character being HIGHLY vulnerable. When you make it so you can run and gun, you destroy all the tension upon which good stealth games rely upon.

>>380148392
>age matters in a fucking videogame world where they can and have retconned important shit
They already de-aged Sam.

>>380149274
>They already de-aged Sam.
yea and that's what was really annoying.
I happen to like the books, too.

>>380149097
And Sam is a glass canon in Blackedlist who can't take more than a few shots.

>>380118678
I already mourned Sam Fisher years ago.

>>380148529
>someone actually pointing out what they didn't like about the game instead of spouting REEEEEE IT'S NOT LIKE OLD GAMES
I liked Blacklist, but good job anon.

You fuckers I thought Michael Ironside died

>>380149431
>I happen to like the books, too.
For real? They came off as fanfiction tier to me.

>>380148529
You're the only blacklist hater here that I respect, faggot. Even though I don't think any of that means it's a bad game

>>380150000
yeah they're a bit on the wilder side because Clancy didn't write them, but I still like them anyway.

I like mostly anything Splinter Cell. even Conviction, even though it was really too easy.

>>380148529
Not to mention shit level design. Map and enemy layout clearly intends for you to use mark and execute a ton and play pseudo stealth to take out the enemies. As for actual stealth, there's usually just a path that goes around everything which isn't rewarding at all. Like the shitty vents in Deus Ex.

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>>380118678
>mfw

>>380149097
you mean like how sam can die in about 3 shots?

>>380150640
I didn't use mark and execute at all. I think it's disabled on the highest difficulty, which you should be trying to play through without killing anyone for the best score.

>>380150781
Not when he needs 1 second to recover then goes back to machine gunning everyone

>>380118678
They could have killed Sam or retired him and then turned his daughter into the new 4th Echelon agent in Blacklist but no they have to keep Sam.
I understand that changing the mc might not be a good decision (people don't really like Nero in DMC4 or Heller in Prototype 2) but Sam is too old for this spy/sneak/assassinate shit.

wait why does someone think blacklist is a splinter cell game? It literally had autoaim instant headshots lmfao

>tfw I played the inferior version of Conviction and didn't know about it until years later

What's the best version of that that's feasible to play nowadays?

>no one's capitalized on making a Splinter Cell knockoff

>>380149797
It wasn't a horrible game by any means, but as a continuation of Splinter Cell, it fails. A game should improve upon other games in the series, not regress.

Am I the only one who unironically literally enjoyed Conviction?

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>>380152546
>turned his daughter into the new 4th Echelon agent in Blacklist
I would rather play a 25 year old numale Sam before this stronk womyn shit.

>tfw my childhood friend and i are going through chaos theory for the PS2
Shit is too much fun

i actually kinda liked blacklist, it's >fun with a friend

>>380152863
you mean Double Agent? it's the one that has multiple versions. As far as I know Conviction is the same for all platforms. Anyways, OG Xbox DA is the recommended one always

>>380153471
>not wanting to play a female in tight-fitted latex stealth suit
nigga u gay
but then again it's ubisoft, they would find a way to make her as unatractive as possible

>>380153380
I liked it. but it was really too easy, even without using Mark and Execute. Sam Fisher, more like fucking John Wick.

>>380118678
The butchering of Fisher was one of the worst things to happen in any series. We went from a loveable old self depricating smart ass to a generic gruff faggot who smashes people into toilets.

>>380153471
She's the daughter of a super spy, I don't see what's wrong with it.

>>380153589

Yeah I got them mixed up for some reason. Damn, I don't have an OGBOX. Thanks though. Reminds me of how the PS2 and PC versions of CT are slightly different (PS2 got water takedowns to make up for inferior lighting engine).

>>380118678
he has to die because enough people don't want tigh focused stealth game all ubisoft knows how to do now is make open world world games, and other games borrow to many elements from it that got recent entries

how are you supposed to make an open world splinter cell game, but not have it look like a """clone""" of wildlands

>>380152546
People don't actually give that much of a shit about Sam's age not making sense, there are a few jokes and stuff but if they show us a good, fun SC game people aren't going to avoid it simply because Sam is seemingly stuck in time.

>>380154085
the whole point of Sam is that he does the fighting while keeping her daughter safe

his daughter going out in the field doing what dangerous shit her dad used to do would go against everything he stood for

Guys
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2017/06/12/ubisoft-ceo-we-are-not-forgetting-splinter-cell.aspx
>I can't say much about that. For sure, all the Clancy games are taken care of. It's just that we have a lot on our plate at the moment and The Division continues to be played and Rainbow Six too. I think yesterday was even one of the highest numbers of players playing...So all the Clancy games are coming along.
>We are not forgetting Splinter Cell.

>>380154871
>We are not forgetting Splinter Cell
>The sequel of Blacklist will be FPS stealth with Briggs as the mc!

>>380155363
>The sequel of Blacklist will be FPS stealth with Briggs as the mc!
might be cool.

>>380146179
Thief>SC>Hitman>>>>>>>>MGS

>>380118678
It won't be gone forever. They'll eventually reboot it and replace all the characters with blacks and women.

>>380118678
Oh no, what happened?

Just let it die.

Pretty much every series i love i just want to be left alone now - the modern games industry is just shit and will desecrate everything i love

Spies vs Mercs in PT/CT is genuinely some of the most fun ive ever had gaming

Blacklist was a fucking great game, don't bother posting the [STEALTH] gifs, the game has fantastic stealth, yes going in guns blazing is a little more viable than it should be on the lower difficulties but on the higher ones, it is not fucking viable

>>380156512
I should really replay the game trying to do Ghost.
needless to say, this game is only meant to be played on the highest difficulty.

>>380154871
That's a very PR-ish answer, though it's nice to see them acknowledge it.

>>380120720
they gifted the game for free on uplay for a while, thats how bad it went
fuck knows who approved a sequel to a multiplayer game nobody fucking plays

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>>380156390
Sadly, this. I don't think I even want a new Tenchu game at this point.

ptseeeeeew!
;-;7

>>380157197
I downloaded it and couldn't play for more than a few hours.

it definitely looks good, and I do want to travel around a watered-down United States, but it's just a silly game with a silly story.

oh someone killed my brother, I'm supposed to solve this by endlessly driving around the country and racing with random strangers. great.

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Huh, I was replaying Blacklist recently and nu-Sam was actually growing on me. There's something amusing about his John Wick-ish stone cold intensity. Almost felt like watching 24 again.

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Every fucking thread.

>>380118678

The series died when Michael Ironside didn't come back

hmmm I bet you blacklist lovers liked dark souls 3 as well

>>380158361
>Conviction good
Literally no one.

>>380158671
it's a guilty pleasure game
you play it, enjoy it like a Call of Duty campaign, and never tell anyone.

I just got around to playing the original Splinter Cell I got from that anniversary free game thing they did. I just finished the CIA mission, and I'm having a blast (No surprise given my love for Thief and MGS).

I'm planning to play more in the series once I finish the first. Which games are worth playing and which should be skipped?

>>380158474
Michael Ironside is extremely overrated and definitely isn't necessary for Splinter Cell to continue.

>>380159114
just play all in chronological.

>>380159212
t.blacklist shitter

>>380158361
Did you just call me cute, anon?

>>380159984
I've played every SC game and I still have an old DVD with the first four games I bought at a sketchy kiosk that sold pirated games as a kid.

He's just never been more than a voice actor to me. Crying over his absence is as pointless as crying over David Hayter.

>>380149097
Then don't play in a baby difficulty.

You can die with three shots or less in the "realist" difficulty.
The game lets you play ghostling stealth, and lethal stealth, but guns blasing is totally unviable in higher difficulties.

>>380154085
First, Sam was a Navy Seal before becoming a Splinter Cell, it's not like you can learn the trade just because you're related. Second, he wouldn't let his daughter come anywhere near this business.

>>380145681
Splinter Cell doesn't have enough memes and a celebrity director.

I still enjoyed both games, even though they went on a different direction from their roots.

>>380144860
>>380145681
>mgs
>good stealth
Hitmans shooting is so clunky and slow I'm not sure how you can stomach clearing a room

>>380139941
>tfw no game where Sam finally hatefucks her senseless
JUST

Ubi only makes open world co op shit now. If they made another Splinter Cell, it would probably be like Wildlands.

>>380159114
Honestly, all Splinter Cell games are good. Play them all. Chaos Theory is the best.

>>380161129
the difference is Ironside was actually good

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>>380123024
>Yes it would

>>380173834
Blacklist didn't have Ironside and it damn straight was more of a Splinter Cell game than Conviction.

>>380174730
>Blacklist didn't have Ironside
No shit, instead it had some guy in his mid thirties play a nearly 60 year old man. They didn't even try to get a similar voice for an aging protagonist and they definitely didn't try to make another CT like everyone says they did.
>more of a Splinter Cell game than Conviction.
Conviction was an attempt to make a theatrical play out of a stealth genre, it's not exactly difficult to make a better stealth game than it.

>>380174730
it was okay, but it wasn't the same.

>>380171607
>>380159382

Awesome, that was the plan. Even the ones on side consoles, like the PSP game? Or should I stick to the PC releases? (I seem to recall playing a GBA Splinter Cell as a kid, too, but somehow I doubt that's worth tracking down.)

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>>380139941
> yfw you'll never see an angry Sam beat up Grim ever again.

>>380178882
I don't know about the side console ones. but yeah, I can't get enough of Splinter Cell myself, I even played some shitty mobile phone version, it was side-scrolling.

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>>380177170
Because he wasn't 60 in Blacklist, it was a clear attempt to retcon his age without directly going out and saying "yeaaah, he's about 35 now".

The voice actor is actually the right age because they redesigned the character.