Thoughts? Looks fun.

I'll buy it.
Didn't really explain it very well but having zombies has made it more like TBS Halo and I'm happy with that direction.

>>380078185
hopefully they handle the Chosen better than Rulers

>>380078185
>generic Marvel colored aliens
I'll pass

What makes the chosen different from Alien Hunters?

I didn't think the trailer was very good at explaining wtf what going on or what changes it will make to the campaign.

>>380079251
>Marvel colored
what does this even mean

is this a /tv/ meme

>>380078185
>MORE RULERS
AAAAAAAAHHHHHH
Regardless, the rest of the content looks cool as shit

>>380078185
looks like a repackage of laien hunters as far as the chosen go, the idea of destroyed cities and the lost is cool i guess.

I just hope they fix the performance and add in more shit to finnaly deliver the proper resistance feel / theme that was missing so dearly from xcom2.

>>380078185
I always wanted to recruit Advent defector soldiers
and fuck em

>>380079602
>pick a human
>change a color
>it's alien now
At Least this is how GotG worked

>>380079918
alien*

>>380079965
pretty sure that was a Star Trek thing well before GOTG

>>380079965
they're probably hybrids, you fucking memer

>>380079456
Not much, probably. I'm guessing the alien champions will work a lot like the Rulers did. Maybe with some tweaks if Firaxis listened to people about Rulers.

There's also earth factions you can buddy up with and recruit soldiers from and some new classes to mess with.

I'm slightly hype, but skeptical. I just hope it's not 'LOL theres 3 new Rulers and you can only pick one of the new classes by following a faction's quest line' or something.

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2K/Firaxis are fucking jews. 60% off for the Deluxe Edition, but only 30% off for the season pass and no sale for the individual DLCs is a joke.

>>380083421
all the dlc is shit anyway, for real

>>380082648
There's an achievment for getting to high level with all factions in the same playthrough, so clearly this is not the case.

Also, looks like the chosen either adapt their skills based on your game or have new skills each playthrough.

>>380078185
How does it feel to know x-com has succumbed to waifuism and shipping with its bond system?

>>380079965
1. That's a pretty old sci-fi trope as a result of early scifi being done cheap so shows like star trek couldn't do any better.

2. If you knew anything about the source material you'd know there's actually a good reason for that that was loosely touched on in GotG2.

>>380083421
The DLC are not worth it. I bought season pass and disabled al of them after one playthrough

>>380078185

XCOM 2 was completely forgettable

>>380084361
>bond system
wut

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>>380084361
>succumbed to waifuism
>asian engineer girl is still butt ugly
bring back vahlen with anti-aging science

>>380085025
>Soldiers can develop bonds with compatible teammates for new abilities and perks

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>>380085025

>>380084361
bad

>>380084361
>>380085260

Feels great.

>>380078185
>XCOM 2
Pass

>>380085336
Don't worry. That feeling will go away when your SI soldier hooks up with your favorite qt3.14 x-com ayys-murdering waifu.

i only have ONE (1) question:

PORN WHEN

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>More bosses after Alien Hunters

No thanks

>>380086220
>implying I have women in my XCOM squad

>>380078185
>WE DON'T WANT TO FIGHT A WAR

>3 more alien ruler type enemies
>they're boring mass effect humanoid aliens
>4 new enemy types
>2 of them are shitty advent mooks
>1 is a generic humanoid "alien" robot
>1 is a generic zombie

Fucking dropped.

At least enemy within brought us tentacle aliens and mech aliens

Is it weird that I don't give a single shit about how the ayyys look? I didn't care about it during release, during EU/EW and so on, the only game (I'm currently playing, at least) whose design I give a single fuck about is Darkest Dungeon, as far as I care Jake could have simply recolored some Advent niggas, I just want new equipment and enemies.
Also, I'm not trying to justify anything, it's just that I didn't knew people cared this much, it's not like EW (or even og XCOMs) had top tier design either.

i hate this new xcom.

xcom 2 could have been good but it just ended up being a big disappointment. this fixes none of the problems with the narrative or game.

firaxis needs to stop. at least we'll always have openxcom i guess.

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>>380086549
>Bosses don't fucking have the 'ACT EVERY TURN YOU DO EVEN THE SMALLEST OF ACTIONS' feature
That's all I ask for. I loved the Alien Hunters stuff, but that one feature made them far more fucking annoying then fun. It almost ensures you're going to be losing shit no much how much meta-gaming you do, and I feel that something that forces a death, instead of it always being a threat if mishandled, was the worse thing of that package. Just use a mod that stops that though and they are great fights otherwise that pushes your team really good.

>>380078185
i'll pass unless it gets very good reviews and is relatively cheap

>>380078185
is it gonna be a basically seperate game like EW was?

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>>380083421
>>380084878
Shin's Final Gift is good. The others are just bad. Alien Hunters 'could' have been good, but honestly it's a shit show and they never fixed the balance around it.

>>380079251
This is how under age this board as become.

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>>380089591
>Tfw i obliterated the rulers without the mods that removes ruler turns
To be fair the berzerker fight did end up a shit show but i still won that mission and the fight

Is it worth playing both XCOM 1 and 2, or should I just go straight to 2?

>>380078185
is one of the factions going to be EXALT?

>>380090359
What difficulty? I play Ironman Commander, and the Rulers always ruin my day

>>380078185
will it break literally every mod on steam workshop?

I tried playing XCOM for the first time (EW) and honestly I got bored after a few levels. I don't think this game is for me, but I might return to it one day.

>>380078185
Mite be kewl but damn those alien designs are really uninspired.

>>380090471
they both have there ups and downs, play both if you can

>still no interdimensional horrors a la xcom apocalypse
this looks fucking gay

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>>380089591
>Not shredding the armor first

>>380078185
Why do I always have to play as a boring human?

We will get anything like the gene mods from Enemy Within? I miss that shit was hoping that X-COM in 2 would reverse engineer the modern gene therapy clinics or something.

>>380090856
One easy way for to make XCOM more interesting is slapping Ironman mode on and putting difficulty somewhere above normal. XCOM becomes a borefest as soon as you have the ability to redo shit and unit deaths aren't final.

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>caring about nuCom now that Phoenix Point is coming out in 2018

>STILL can't recruit sneks

>>380091623
I'll try it one day, thanks anon

>>380091640
it looks like a clone of nucom, just look at that UI

im not excited for this at all.

>>380091453
one of the hero classes is an Advent traitor

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>>380078185
Gonna pick it up. looks like enough content to keep me interested. but i would really like some after story action.

Really hoping they name drop Exalt. Pretty sure the freaks are Exalt with Dr. Vahlen working for them.

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>>380091181
>Thinking I didn't freezelock it and armor shread before plinking it to death
That's a cute joke, as there's no other way TO fight them.
It was about the only screenshot I did have though beyond a ton of lots of units taking damage and stuff chain reacting.

>>380090663
It always does anon.

>>380091640
I'm looking forward to both, sometimes you're just that hungry anon.

>XCOM 2 ending teases underwater shit
>expansion isn't based on Terror from the Deep

what was the point of the tease then? XCOM 3?

>>380091060
Well since the leaks about WOTC turned out true then I'm betting the stuff about ca_star and ca_finale will just be two more expansions.

>>380092034
I was really hoping the DLC would tie that up. Pretty upset it still hasn't been addressed.

>>380092034
Yes. We kind of expected the expansion to be a modification to the main campaign like EW because of the nature of the game and Firaxis being set in their ways.

>>380085260
i...is this real?

>>380091736

Sneks are for low tier waifufags.

You can apparently recruit the ADVENT hybrids though, which is interesting.

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>>380091640
>YOU CAN ONLY PLAY ONE OR THE OTHER

>>380079456
Apparently chosen level up between encounters

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>>380085260
this + few mods, and I can already see my dongus expanding

>>380092034
>>380092131
>>380092212
>Thinking they told us everything yet
I'm pretty sure that will be a plot point, but they don't want to ruin what might as well be their only ace.

>>380085025
>>380085260
by FAR the most exciting feature i've heard about so far

>>380083421
XCom: EU was better anyway

>>380078185
at first I thought they meant these three were the factions you could befriend but then they revealed the other mercs, well at least one of them is alien so we finally get to play as aliens in sp I hope so i'm pretty excited and it comes out soon

>>380092581
ha thats sick

>>380091783
Well, that sounds interesting. Might give it a go then.

>>380092590
It's coming out in 2 months apparently, I don't think they would be keeping crucial secrets so close to release.

>>380092942
I think they are, including that not many even BEAT the damn game still. They have plans to keep dripfeeding content out till release, so we might not even learn about it till just a few days before.

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>>380078185
>BRAND NEW ALIENS
>3 human recolours
>all 3 are simply shades of blue
Nope, try again you creatively bankrupt bastards! I am not paying or even pirating this bullshit!

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>>380092034
>Under water at the end
>More aliens keep coming through the gates
>Clearly it's not going to end
>Lock down the gate temporarily
>Explore underwater
>Alien research facility
>All kinds of crazy shit found
>GENE MODS
>Invade alien home world through gate with genetically modified crab people soldiers
>XCOM3: Terror from the Deep
>The humans are the terror from the deep

Although I kind of hope that they just aren't ready for Terror from the Deep. They are knocking this expansion out to test some new concepts. Same with Rulers. A little more fiddling and TftD will be a massive expansion and Firaxis was just taking their time and doing it right.

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>>380091736
KILL ALL SNAKEFAG INFIDELS. MASSACRE THOSE WHO INSULT THE COMMANDER. BEHEAD THOSE WHO SPEAK ILL OF BRADFORD, HIS PROPHET.

VIGILO CONFIDO
VIGILO CONFIDO
VIGILO CONFIDO

>>380091851
pretty sure this thumbnail was a naked jonah hill.

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>NEW FACTIONS & HERO CLASSES
Three additional factions have emerged to strengthen Earth's resistance – the Reapers, Skirmishers and Templars – each with its own unique abilities and contrasting philosophies. These factions provide powerful hero class soldiers to aid in missions and new opportunities for the strategy layer.

>THE CHOSEN
The Chosen are the most cunning enemies XCOM has ever faced, each with unique strengths and weaknesses that will be introduced with each new campaign. The Chosen are on the hunt for the Commander and will kidnap, interrogate, and kill XCOM’s soldiers to complete their objective. The Chosen can also invade the strategy layer and ravage XCOM’s global operations. Find and raid the Chosen’s strongholds to defeat the enemy for good.

>NEW ALIEN & ADVENT THREATS
A deadly new alien known as the Spectre, capable of creating dark copies of XCOM soldiers, has snuck onto the battlefield. Adopt new tactics to counter it as well as the explosive attacks of the ADVENT Purifier and the psionically charged ADVENT Priest.

>NEW ENVIRONMENTS AND MISSION OBJECTIVES
Engage in tactical missions across new environments from abandoned cities devastated by alien bioweapons during the original invasion, to underground tunnels and xenoformed wilderness regions.

>>380091736
Vipers are for monstergirl fags who are making their first shaky steps into actual furshit.

Viper King is patrician taste

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>ENHANCED STRATEGY LAYER
Manage XCOM’s relations with factions and counter The Chosen’s operations from the Avenger. Employ new Resistance Orders to prioritize your personal strategy. Soldiers, scientists, and engineers can now be deployed for Covert Actions that award supplies and boost faction favor if successfully completed.

>GREATER CUSTOMIZATION & REPLAYABILITY
Soldiers can develop bonds with compatible teammates for new abilities and perks. The SITREP system dynamically adds new modifiers to the tactical layer to make sure every mission provides a unique challenge. Advanced campaign options allow for finer adjustments to game length and difficulty.

>CHALLENGE MODE
Utilize the perfect strategy in new regular one-shot community challenges to claim the top spot on the global leaderboard.

>SHARE THE RESISTANCE
Customize and pose your soldiers, then add filters, text and backgrounds to generate your own unique resistance posters that appear in-game and can be shared with friends.

>>380093428
What are factions anyway? I don't understand, are they just new classes or something separate?

>>380078185
>No from the deep
Pass

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>>380093190
Those are just the alien 'heroes', probably based off the elders with some human mixing. There's other alien types coming too.

>>380093684
they're AI resistance factions who give you a new class if you become friends with them

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>>380093598
>Soldiers, scientists, and engineers can now be deployed for Covert Actions that award supplies and boost faction favor if successfully completed.

GOOD. This means its probably late game stuff since that's when all your scientist and engineers are doing fuck all.

>>380093598
>scientists, and engineers can now be deployed for Covert Actions that award supplies and boost faction favor if successfully completed.

Finally, those lazy ass engineers will have something to do in the late game.

>>380093803
So they'll basically work like new classes then.

>>380093428
the factions part of the trailer made it sound like a sitcom or something
>these three separate resistances have really hurt advent
>the problem is
>they all hate each other
>THIS SUMMER
>A LAUGH OUT LOUD COMEDY ALL ABOUT MEETING IN THE MIDDLE
>"our house" starts playing

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>>380093428
>That psi faction

I can dig it.

>>380093803
Also choosen who hate and kill everyone.

Not sure which ones they are tho.

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>>380093598
>>SHARE THE RESISTANCE
>Customize and pose your soldiers, then add filters, text and backgrounds to generate your own unique resistance posters that appear in-game and can be shared with friends.

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>>380078185

>>380094053
>Selfie DLC

>>380093598
>Can make your own propaganda posters
Noice

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>>380093996
The chosen are the 3 alien heroes.

The factions are on the human side. You get to buddy up with one of them and they'll give you their hero and probably a new class too.

I actually have no idea what the hell the core idea behind this is meant to be exactly. I was hoping XCOM 2's expansion would be basically a bigger and better version of Enemy Within with much expanded choices for soldier customization and extra skilltrees layered on top of the base class, but this almost certainly isn't it from what I can see. If it's just extra unique enemies that give you a new suit of armor when you beat them this doesn't seem very appealing. But I guess more XCOM is always good in my books.

Worst case scenario though, is that it's just going to be them adding the Council back in the game by proxy through the three cunt factions bickering with one another.
>Commander! Faction A wants to attack an Advent outpost and burn it to the goddamn ground, but Faction B wants to steal its incoming resources shipment! What should we do!

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>still no snek waifu available on your team

>>380079965
this has been going on for years you underage faggot.

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>>380091851
>>380093327

>>380093428
Looking pretty CHEEKI BREEKI there.

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>>380093893
it seems like you'll only be able to ally with one or two for them, as they have "differing philosophies", so it'll be like committing to either MECs or Gene mods in EW

>>380083421
At least you can see Xcom on the shop, cuz is not available on my country.

>>380094264
>>THE CHOSEN
>The Chosen are the most cunning enemies XCOM has ever faced, each with unique strengths and weaknesses that will be introduced with each new campaign. The Chosen are on the hunt for the Commander and will kidnap, interrogate, and kill XCOM’s soldiers to complete their objective. The Chosen can also invade the strategy layer and ravage XCOM’s global operations. Find and raid the Chosen’s strongholds to defeat the enemy for good.

They are not one of the 3. They are a new threat.

>go into cities
>fight with advent
>attracts zombie hordes that are hostile to you and the aliens
sounds actually pretty cool tbqh

>>380093327
s-so did i

>>380093598
>new environments from abandoned cities devastated by alien bioweapons during the original invasion, to underground tunnels and xenoformed wilderness regions
>The SITREP system dynamically adds new modifiers to the tactical layer to make sure every mission provides a unique challenge
This may sound like a minor thing, but I'm very much looking forward to more variety in regular mssions. You can do only so many standard missions before becoming completely bored

>>380091640
I'll be happy to give it a go when it comes out, but till then I'll pick up WotC.

>>380094408
I will forever hate Firaxis for giving waifufags jerk off material. Vahlen was bad enough but this is next level of annoying

>>380093598
>Advanced campaign options allow for finer adjustments to game length and difficulty.

This is also interesting. It'd be neat if you could choose to have a really long campaign or a shorter one that could be completed in 10 hours.

Bought XCOM 2 on PC on launch but it was fucked and havent touched it since, what has changed for free? What should I buy?

>>380089591
It's not as big a deal as people make it out to be. The fact that they had to subvert the turn system to make rulers a threat sucks donkey dick (as do certain ruler attacks that deal guaranteed damage thanks to their special turns), but they make for pretty fun fights otherwise.

>>380094694
Oh, I suck dicks then.

EGG SALT IS BACK
THE ELITE HUMAN UPPER CLASS THAT SUPPORTED THE ALIENS

>>380095001

The problem with the rulers isn't the rulers themselves. It's how ruler content fucks up the balance of the game. It's OP.

>>380094959

Did they ever add the option to disable the timers?

>>380094959
That's a pretty vague question. You want someone to summarize a year's worth of patch notes for you? You want someone to tell you how much you'll value content you're unaware of?

>>380094959
>What should I buy?

Nothing. The DLC isn't that good.

Buy Shen's Last Gift if you want to go through a defense mission where you fight waves of enemies.

Buy Rulers if you want gimmicky fights and gimmicky items and armor.

>>380095413
You could add a mod to turn them off.

>>380095246
I'm fine with the difficulty spike. Once you get your grenadiers off the ground, 2 becomes piss easy. Rulers add some much needed tension and the genuine potential for a wipe. They're actually threatening, which is more than can be said for a lot of enemies.

>>380095246
yep its a great idea badly implemented.

I wish they would just patch aliens extra turns out, double their health and nerf freeze stuff.

Apparently, they're reworking the previous DLC to fit into this, which also includes buffing Sparks with more HP, weapon mods and such.

How's Long Dong 2?

Does it turn the game into a grind fest and stretch all the awesome content it comes up with paper thin like it did in the original Long Dong?

Alright, with the Bond system, who are you pairing the commander aka MU avatar up with?

>>380095434

I just meant how drastically have things changed

>>380095801
It's been awhile since I played it, but I remember the risk/reward balance for the infiltration mechanics being fucked to shit.

>>380095610
>I'm fine with the difficulty spike.

The game actually becomes easier with Alien Hunters. Frost bombs and Viper King armor makes the game waaaaaay simpler when you're not fighting rulers.

And you can always tell when you're going to fight one when you get the shadow chamber because there's a suspiciously low amount of enemies.

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>>380078185
I still can't get into XCOM 2 because of the armor. Everything after T1 looks like shit.

The T2 weapons are slick imo, but the armor is ugly as shit. T3 is fucking terrible, looks like Nerf shit. If this adds some armor i'll be juiced.

>>380095638

That'd be nice. I honestly don't see a reason to use SPARKS ever when I could be using the time and resources to improve my regular soldiers instead.

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>save scum any time I lose a soldier
>save scum if I start losing the mission
>never play above normal difficulty
I'm just not good at turn based games

>>380095801

Same as Long Dong 1, for better or worse.

>>380096070

>bugfixes
>DLC
>metric fuckton of mods

Game itself is the same. Now would be a good time to try it out, and then get mods to spice shit up.

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>>380096260

Mods, mah boy. Mods. You can literally get the far superior Xcom1 Plate armor and then xcom1 power armor, let alone custom stuff or stuff that has been imported.

You need links to em nigga?

Xcom1 Power armor here.

>>380085260
>tfw your veteran soldier sees his friend getting killed
>Instant panic + stat penalty
I hope they implement this

>>380096450
xcom 2 has some brutal RNG. You can have a whole run ruined by a missed shot hitting a evac or a bullshit wallgrab/wallshot.

>>380096475
Not gonna lie that looks pretty awesome

>>380095801
its awful, it makes the game revolve around stealth by hamstringing the fuck out of the mechanics and it makes it super gamey in that you just do the same thing. The only good thing Long War 2 has done is create a new rabid brand of fans that offer free butthurt when you criticize the game. Spectrum:Green is basically Long War 1 except with some serious depth since you can do a ton with x2's engine.

My advice is the same advice i give everyone. Just play Long War for EW, if you odn't like the state it was officially left in, there's a few rebalance mods

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>>380096260
That's the whole point of mods, man. Who cares what the default armor is like when you can just make it look like whatever you want.

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>>380096475
Oh shit lemme get em bruv.

>>380096584
I think it would be the other way around first.

>Vet sees his BFF's face get blasted off
>Gets an extra action point
>Accuracy takes a dip
>Damage and crit chance through the roof
>Can punch shit harder then MECs
>After mission
>Drinking in the bar
>Stats take a dive
>Have to give him time off to mourn

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>>380096450
I'm a filthy XCOM casual and I don't even care, the games are still fun even if I don't rank along actually good players.

>>380096450

Hello, me.

>>380085260
if this is true instant buy for me
more games need waifuism and shipping

>>380096260
>install nude mods
that's how easy it is

>>380097101
NO NOW GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS THREAD

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>>380096450

If you can't go perfect ironman, try doing more of a bronzeman or what I'll call what I do copperman. Copperman being I savescum to prevent catastrophic campaign failure because I won't be interested in having to restart the campaign all over again and risk fatigue of playing the same early-mid event over and over, but not when I lose soldiers. It's not a perfect system as I do craven out and savescum to avoid a mission failure, but I'm working on

>>380096876
>>380096697

That's the LW lasers & Xcom2012 power armor. I'll pass over a few of the armor sets I like from the workshop

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=729351665&searchtext=power+armor stenchfury modular

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=892409062&searchtext=power+armor I haven't used this, it might be bad but custom gear is always nice

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=653902466&searchtext=T3 his stuff is sometimes great sometimes eh, one problem is the helmets have a big neck gap unless you choose a body armor that covers it up. The great thing with the Xcom2012 power armor I will link next post is it actually has a full soft but thick neck gorget going on.

>>380096450

Play Iron Man. You'd be surprised how much better the game gets and more importantly; how much better YOU get at the game.

>>380097273
im the audience for all the anime mods for original xcom and current x-com

im here to stay
weeb dominaiton

>>380091640
>2018
crowdfunded: 2022 at the earliest

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>>380096876
>>380096697

Xcom 2012 plate armor ported over: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=660878813

And the Xcom 2012 power armor ported over I used here >>380096475
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=660521897

If you see here, this has the 3rd link from >>380097286 's helmet and normally there'd be a huge gaping spot for the neck. But the Xcom 2012 T3 power armor in this screenshot covers it up with a good crysis style skinsuit cover.

In this screenshot I also used an accessory avatar project mask worn underneath the helmet to make it look opaque.

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>>380096450
>Finally break the save scum cycle
>Grit my teeth when soldiers die
>Force myself to power on when my A-team wipes
>Have even more fun with the game, frantically throwing rookies at powerful aliens to see what sticks
>Pull myself out of ruin
>Purge xeno scum
>Realize just how much savescumming has ruined potentially awesome experiences in games

Break the cycle. Grit your teeth. Power through. If you lose the game, so be it, but go down fighting. You'll have more fun

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>>380078185
I just want more custom options

>>380097286
>image
>not using the spark tpose fix

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>>380097286
>>380097698

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>X-COM
>You know what we need to add to this game? A story, yeah... a storyplot and cinematics.

For what fucking reason??

>>380097302
>>380097701
What if I don't find the actual gameplay that interesting and don't want to spend dozens of hours on a single campaing only for me to crash and burn?

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>Snooping around
>Trip a pod
>Vipers start slithering around everywhere
>Rookie wearing Cobra Commander armor pokes his head out
>Viper has panicked!
>Viper has panicked!
>Viper has panicked!

I don't care if I look like a saturday morning cartoon, this armor is neat.

>>380097857
>what is fun ?

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>>380098183
>What if I don't find the actual gameplay that interesting

Then why are you playing it in the first place?

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>>380097698

If you mix and match you can get some really neat stuff with either minimal clipping or you don't notice it 99% of the time. This is the COD (I think COD Black ops 3) ported over helmet, with the Stenchfury modular gila mask, and a scouter visor from https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=650809111 . There's a bit of clipping on the gila mask and COD helmet ( http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=795789393&searchtext=black+ops ) but it looks dope.

>>380097813
The screenshots are a bit old but I'll look for that Tpose fix.

>>380084818
Not him but what's the reason?

>>380098367
Because it's a sci fi game and I like those

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>>380098221
>not embracing the ridiculous nature of it and becoming the very incarnation of edgy weebdom

It feels great to Nothing Personnel aliums with what by all rights should be an anime character

>>380096663
>>380096450
It's not RNG at this point, it's bad design.

Even Darkest Dungeon and Modheim are more forgiving then Xcom2.

>>380079723
Rulers were awesome tho. It is the weapons and armor that were shit (in looks at least)

>people here being mad about LW2
It's a nice improvement over the dumb stat pumping and razor-thin margins in LW for EU. The improvements in the strategic layer and the infiltration mechanics actually mean you have to pick engagements wisely, and what you choose as a clear impact on how you move forward.

It's not perfect, but it's a lot more interesting than regular XCOM, and much much better than the original LW.

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>>380098806

>Choose husky japanese female voice for my Nip female soldier
>Literally goes "Nuh..N-nnNANI?!?" When she misses

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>Internet is abuzz with XCOM
>Figure it's time to revisit it
>Browse mods
>Long War has stopped making awesome mods and went back to making the game a grind again

Bummer. They came up with some awesome shit that works great as mods. The enemy pack was stellar.

>>380097701
I had an ironman run and it was genuinely one of the funnest and most memorable experiences I've had with XCOM.

That said it was also infuriating as fuck when I'd miss some 95% sure shot and end up losing great men.

Once I had all the upgrades most of my A-team survived to the end.

>>380086549
Thanks for reminding me darkest dungeon dlc is also coming. Looks like the months ahead will be full turn-based autism for me

>>380098806
Is that viper king armor?

>>380099930
since when was that added in?

>>380099945
A Better Advent 2 is my LW replacement

>>380100204
Mods

Without mods is there ever a chance to get 100% accuracy?

I want to get XCOM 2 but I need to prepare myself for how bullshit it will be.

>>380099978
An ironman run with no major bugs? Not even a soldier killed through a solid wall? Wow.

>>380100389
any male voices for muh gundam themed troops?

>>380100196
Yep, just colored differently

>>380100543

Yes, shotgun to the face is usually 100%.

Anyone who liked Xcom2 will buy this.
Just a little disappointed it wasn't Terror from the deep

>>380100663
Yep, one of the most popular mods on the Workshop is a male Jap voice pack.

They're cool voices, too.

>>380098806
My Brazilian is a Thin Man looking motherfucker nicknamed Coldsteel.

In the final mission, he full Sprint Spray and Prayed Avatars twice at range(in cover!) with his Shotgun - four times, he crit. He SAVED THE PLANET.

>>380100582
It was back when it just came out, but I think I do remember one bullshit event that made me quickly alt+f4 in rage.

Didn't work though. I just had to live with losing a good soldier through some bullshit.

>>380086929
In retrospect, no one was going to think of Butt Ugly Martians

>>380100582

I will never play Ironman (as in the setting) with how buggy it is.

Just recently I had a bug where I would CTD every time I attempted the final mission. Had to reload back to the ADVENT tower. Would've been fucked with Ironman.

Encountered way too many campaign-breaking bugs in XCOM2.

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>Want to play at higher difficulties
>The first retaliation mission always ends in ruin

>>380101090
okay, thanks anon, guess I'll do one last run with ramba ral and friends before the ep

>We still play as terrorists (xcom) instead of the good guys

>>380099930
Mine just sounds like a psychopath, she starts laughing at random when she kills things and it's great

>>380101283
I just kept throwing her at the Alien Rulers and she kept stunning them as they tried getting away from her into the escape portal.
Pretty much was what allowed me to kill all three rulers at the same missions I found them. It was brutal.

>>380084818
It's far older than that. Even John Carter had Martians that were differently colored humans (and some that weren't).

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>tfw your Bob Ross character dies

>>380096751
>Spectrum:Green is basically Long War 1 except with some serious depth since you can do a ton with x2's engine.
what does it do?

>>380078185
Wonder if pavonis will find a way to integrate this with the long war 2?

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What's that one combo in game that you just fucking love. Like if you could tell someone DO THIS ONE LITTLE THING, what would it be?

Mine is snipers with bluescreen rounds. Sectopods don't last two turns.

I haven't played Xcom since LW2 came out.
Fuck, I wonder if my mods and shit are still going to work correctly if I try playing today.
This expansion announcement got me in the mood again.

Also was LW2 ever fixed?

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>>380102387
>not even mods to fix it
I also despair.

>Templars
>Heavy armor with fur lining it on the neck with a cape
instant buy, i love that aesthetic

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>Try Long Dong 2
>Totally misinterpret the whole infiltration thing
>A-team won't be back for another month

Whoops.

>>380103597
>Literally Destiny
I do like it though

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looks like you boys got some competition

>>380104147
why do you think I'm buying Destiny 2? Titans look cool.

>>380103330
My favourite thing was making 2 man sniper teams in long war 2. One would go for the spotter build while the other went for the pure sniper build. Absolutely destroying pods from ranges at which they cannot even see me is a great rush.

>100% chance to hit at full cover.

>>380103229

LW2 devs are off the payroll. They supposedly do have information on the expansion though so they can get their mod updated quickly.

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>>380104224

>>380104224
Would actually play if I ever get a switch (I won't)

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>>380104224

>>380092476
you would be surprised how many people honestly think like that.
What do you think lets people have 4000 hours of dota or CS? Not a diverse diet of games, that´s for sure.

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>>380078185
It almost feels chuuni with all the glowing swords, goofy poses and edgy quotes. I wouldn't be surprised to see seibah make a dramatic entrance towards the end of the trailer.

Might be fun though.

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>>380093428
>xenoformed wilderness
We WotW now.

>>380105068
Good to hear.
Lw2 is by no means perfect, not even close, but I've had a lot of fun out of it.
It'd be nice to see the new systems utilised.

>>380078185
Needs a Snek vore mod badly

>>380096260
I understood that reference.

>>380107358
Fuck that, bring the Reaper back.

>>380103094
I havne't played it yet because it's not complete but it's based around combat instead of hacked up stealth

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Have they fixed the game's performance to not be utter shit? I poured a lot of time into XCOM 2 last year but it ran like ass and there was even one instance where I couldn't see my end game stats after completing a campaign because I'd just get a black screen

>>380078185
Looks overpriced

>>380112013

But we don't even know what it's going to be priced at.

>>380112605
Same as EW, probably.
I don't see how would that be overpriced.

>>380079251
Not gonna buy a game cause the color of an aliens race, really?

>>380079251
Going by xcom lore, they are probably some human+elder hybrid

>>380089591
Literally the only problem with the rulers is the Archon King's devastate. The Viper has so little hp that he's a non-issue and the Berserker queen is hard countered by a single gas grenade.

>>380098553
It's a spoiler but most humanoid life in the galaxy was guided along to its current state by Ego the Living Planet so he could use their species to sire children.

>>380078185
Looks awesome and I'm stoked to play it. Haven't played Xcom 2 since it came out but I've been thinking about it the last few weeks.

the aesthetic looks fucking dogshit

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>>380100663
>gundam themed
Son you'd better link that shit and link it now

The only bad thing about the alien rulers dlc is how retardedly OP the weapons and armor are. The bolt launcher and the frost grenade trivialise the early game. Complaining about "b-b-ut the free actions" is just being bad

Isn't there a mod that balances them?

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>>380106625
MODS WHEN

>>380114759
Devastate wouldn't even be a problem if it didn't have the chance for Unconscious. Why does it have that, why can't it just be a horrible cover destroyer, plus the damage. It doesn't need to have a 30% chance to knock out your squad.

>>380110824
Yes

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Is there a way to set up Long War 2 so that it incorporates enemy types and the new items/classes but without the fucking retarded changes it does like making the Avatar Project progress while artificially limiting how quickly you can get to the Dark Projects that spawned a continent away?

>>380115485
>Isn't there a mod that balances them?
There's mods that remove the free action, there's mods that change to a % chance and there's mods that change it so they only move when you deal damage to them.

>>380115485
>Isn't there a mod that balances them?

Balances what? The armor? Not that I know of.

>>380115485
Nope, but you can bet the expansion will. Jake realized Sparks were shit and is buffing them to high heaven. I'm sure he will realize that Bolt casters do WAY too much damage even in early game and will tone it down. But how the hell he could balance the armors, I have no idea.

>>380115485
>Isn't there a mod that balances them?
You could just not use them.

>>380116113

Just use ABA2/LW2 enemies + a class mod + LW2 items mod. It'd be easier than fiddling around with LW2's settings.

>>380116753

Terrible answer, as the rulers are balanced around you using the new DLC gear.

>>380115783
As soon as you buy credits to download mods with.

>>380117316
Only the bolt launcher feels like the it is designed to be used against the rulers and that's because the increased stun chance

>>380118758
Personally I'm running so many mods that the rulers are never a huge problem, I am running A better Advent which means huge pods, so sometimes you can trigger a large pod + a ruler, which really makes you fight for your life.
Lighting a ruler on fire is great though, they just melt.

>>380118758

The frost bombs and VK's armor frost ability are both clearly designed to counter the ruler's free turn.

Show me pictures of this alien waifu and I will draw porn.

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XCOM is shit, but really digging these new aliens.

Fuck, i'm so hyped. I must have beaten XCOM2 over 20 times by now.

>>380120407
What mods do you recommend?

>>380078185
I'll buy it. If they fix the fucking hitrates.

>Perma death game with costumed squad.
>get crit and die on a regular basis
>bore yourself to death by playing ultra pussy because there is no other way around this shit system


I mean enemy unknown was bad but xcom 2 was straight up bullshit.

>>380119502
>I gave myself all these free and op items and now the game is easy! Who would have thought?

>>380119683
I thought they were designed to freeze enemies in place :^)

But in all seriousness though, what I meant is that while the bolt launcher has a stun chance on normal enemies (Or at least that is what the description says, i have yet to see it stunning a non-ruler), it has a much higher one on rulers. Thus the 'designed to counter rulers', because it is more effective against them

The frost bomb and frost whip, while useful agaisnt rulers, last the same as with non-rulers. They are equally effective against both

>>380104224
>Tacticam
oh boy

>>380078185
>Soldiers can develop bonds with compatible teammates for new abilities and perks.
my penis, it's reacting!

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>>380078185
>tfw installed a mod that made the rulers regen to full if they escaped

Advent Priest looks like a cool idea.

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I was interested in xcom 2 until I found out the super secret avatar project is just for making anime edgelords. Fucking gay.

>>380096908
This is my video game guilty pleasure.

Imagine the final fight where people might die left and right. The last dude will be so fucking anguished he'll panic and berserk at the same time. Hitting like a truck after running up to point blank and screaming his lungs off.

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>>380116691
>Jake realized Sparks were shit and is buffing them to high heaven.
Pls
They're not a worthwhile substitute to glorious Mechs and genemods, but either way, pls.

The idea of your soldiers now being able to have bonds is cool. Maybe now instead of freakouts, they'll turn into revenge seekers whenever a veteran soldier bites the dust.

>>380120695
Yet Another F1
Training Roulette
Mod Everything
A Better Advent 2 (not for every playtrough but i use it to shake things up a bit every few runs)
Pod Activation Preview
Training Roulette (especially if you have a bunch of custom classes downloaded)
Grimy's Loot Mod
Black Market Usage and Tech Tree

And on top of that i recommend downloading a shitton of cosmetic mods. Mostly because i like to make stories about my soldiers and dress them appropriately.

>>380097286
shit, they added mechs?
How good are they?
I have the dlc but haven't played it in ages.

>>380093428
>DestinyClasses.jpg

>>380121231
>last the same as with non-rulers

No, they last much longer comparatively (normal enemies don't have free turns, meaning you get way more attacks in) unless you use it on a Sectopod/Gatekeeper. They are way more effective on non-rulers.

The Alien Hunter items unbalance the game on missions where you don't have any rulers, but if you don't use them at all the missions with rulers become unbalanced. There is no way to get around this except disabling the DLC.

>>380122459
>Sgt. Wimp has panicked
>Sgt. Wimp ran to his friend for a hug.
aaaaw~

>>380078185
I just realized that i haven't played unmodded XCOM 2 in a long time. It's going to be weird deciding which mods to keep when the expansion arrives.

>>380096450
Buy that Mario + Rabbids game.

>>380093893
I think they're unique "hero" units or something.
Maybe someone you rent or hire.

>>380122972
>which mods to keep when the expansion arrives

Likely most of them won't be compatible and some completely depreciated, so you won't have to make the decision.

>>380123084
I've never bought a nintendo game and I'm not about to start

>>380122421
Confirmed, getting more HP, more Armor, more Aim. He wants them to be the Tank of the group, able to stand in the middle of enemies and soak damage for you.

>>380122459
Vengeance was something you could buy in the GTS, but people ignore it because it's complete shit. Bonds are more for the abilties and perks they give though. So prepare for 'dual' attacks. Two psi ops combining powers together for a much more massive attack. You thought that Null Lance was powerful before? Just wait for the close range double attack.

https://youtu.be/M2XdjCjEOsE?t=237

>>380123384
Emulate Pikmin 2!

>>380123337
I don't see why most mods wouldn't stay compatible. Obviously things like Long War 2 or A Better Advent won't work but additional classes, weapons, gameplay rebalances and cosmetic stuff should all still work.

>>380096450
Who cares? This game goes out of its way to shit on you no matter how good you are. It also promotes that kind of behavior.

>>380123738
Thanks but I'm not into those kinds of games

>>380084361
How is it going to work?
I dont want faggotry in my xcom

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>Skirmishers are ADVENT defectors
But I thought they mind controlled their troops, how can they defect?

>>380093935
Rival groups who have a common foe are pretty common in this kind of fiction.

Just replace resistances with "Elves, Dwarves, Haflings" and so on.

>>380124002
what "kinds" of games are you talking about? RTS?

>>380124119
They do like Tygan and yank the chip out by force

>>380124119
the mind chip broke.
they didn't defect, they are defective!

>>380123758
The Map mods should work as well I think, but maybe turn them off for the first playthrough to have a chance to see more of the new ones.

>>380124119
Defective chips, or somehow destroyed in a previous skirmish, but didn't get killed. Just like how in the end of the game, Advent starts surrendering when they get a will of their own when the control of the Elders is gone.

>>380124238
Ones that look like they are for children

>>380124119
That image is the worst meme, delete now

>>380124702
>Bad at games for adults
>refuses to play games for "children"

Do you even like video games?

>>380123758
>gameplay rebalances will work
>with an expansion that changes the gameplay

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>>380124119

>>380125026
>bad at one genre
>DO YOU EVEN LIKE VIDEO GAMES
Yes I do actually

>>380124702
tits are technically for children, and they're a lot of fun.
Just don't do it in public.
And pikmin 2 is just a great time, one of my favourites of all time in fact.

I suck fiercely at anything Xcom but I enjoy watching good people playing it.

Who's a good streamer now that Beaglerush stopped playing xcom 2?

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>>380125214
Wonder if Vahlen will finally reappear. The way the Rulers DLC played out, it certainly seemed as if she wasn't killed off.

Granted, she'd be a hag by now unless she modified herself with alien genes to stay young.

>>380125264
Well I don't like tits, what now smart guy? Will you reply and shall we descend into retardation or can I go to a coma and remove this E3 from memory

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>>380125214
>>380125694
more likely that she's modded herself into some abomination

>>380125779
Oh so now you're gay an one of those "I only play mature games for mature gamers like myself"

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>>380124938
>implying

>>380125779
nah, I'm going to sleep soon anyways. You can play whatever you enjoy.

>>380125062
I mean minor gameplay stuff like for example there's a mod that adds back the defense bonus from being on high ground. That should still work.

>>380126065
Why are you so triggered by me not wanting to play games that have an aesthetic I don't like?

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>>380125983
Didn't sound like she was too far gone, just obsessed with creating weaponized aliens to stop Advent.

Hell, she might have cloned a hot daughter.

>>380126146
stop with the fucking prequel memes already!

>>380078185
What looks fun? They showed nothing.

>>380127170
what do they need to show exactly? its an XCOM2 expansion. or is it a full game? not to mention all the cutscenes use the game engine so what we see there is what we get in game.

I just hope like fuck somebody uploads the linux version to the internet.
I'm too poor to buy it and I hate windows
Life is hard

>tfw no X-Com/X-Com 2 port for Switch

>>380127506
How is this going to make me want to play through the campaign again? They knocked it out of the park with Enemy Within, how're they going to do it here? New mechanics beyond just new fancy weapons. How do the three factions effect the game? They've shown off a bunch of fancy visuals, concepts and toys but they didn't really illustrate what it any of it meant. It was like somebody cut together three different blockbuster trailers.

>>380128429
steam has a list of new features.

>>380128429
It's an announcement trailer though, not an in-depth look.

>expansion pack about to come out
>STILL NO NUDE SNEK MOD

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT

>>380128931
So? They showed that we have to deal with Aliens who actually have personalities, a bunch of factions who will only join if we can convince them, and zombifie humans again.

I'm bad at Xcom but like playing it.

I'll probably buy this or the season pass and then start playing again.

>>380129628
What do you struggle with?

>>380124119
>>380126090
GREAT TITS AHOY.png

>>380125380
I enjoy watching xwynns playing LW2. If only he just stopped farming easy missions and started liberating regions

>>380129628
What difficulty? If you were trying normal, go for easy until you get a grasp of the finer mechanics, then try a campaign on the higher settings.

>>380129937
I'm bad at losing people so I savescum.

Then I get bored and the game loses my attention. I'll do a mission, take a break and then not come back.

And positioning my people, not the best at that either.

>>380130084
He doesn't have the resources to do that, he also spiked up strength too high in his starting region, so trying that would be suicide and he wouldn't be able to hold it anyway. He's not going to try against an HQ until he has Mag weapons for everyone and tier 2 for all his other weapons. So much shit he would have killed if he just had Mag Sword.

>>380130301
I can't help you much in terms of savescum apart from "Don't do it" but some pretty good beginners advice that helped me along was that half cover pretty much isn't worth it.

>>380129937
Not cutting my wrists every time more than one guy dies.

Doing what I think is the safest possible thing every single round and still losing guys. Going any slower and the god damn timer runs out. It's a stress simulator and makes me not want to play.

>>380092942
They revealed way too much about XCOM 2 before its release.
Almost everything except the shitty performance.

>>380130571
I'm understand, that's speaking purely from a viewer's perspective. Multiple low difficulty flawless missions in a row are getting boring to watch

>>380130668
>>380130272
Thanks, though I've had the game since release and had the previous game or ages. Not completely a beginner

I also don't like having the pressure of the timer on the world map. Feels like I'm moments away from losing the game despite just starting. Especially since you start the game with it like a quarter full.

The timer in game when you're fighting aliens was always ok to me but outside the combat, when you're flying around and shit, feels like it goes too fast.

>>380096450
Slap on ironman and live on the edge, you'll learn to adapt.

that's what I did, even if it meant all my cool troops got ayy'd

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>GRAZED

>>380131236
Can't disagree, but really it's more just pointing out a fundamental flaw in Long War. I know it's suppose to be a LONG WAR, but hell it gets boring to know that you will be running the same shit for months before you make any kind of progress.

Base game too short and enemies aren't tough, LW too long and enemies can be bullshit. Why can't there just be something in between?

Not enough Rabbits though.

>>380131916
Someone is going to make the mod. We will at least see a Mario voice pack in the coming days and even if there aren't enough voice clips for it, after that game.

>>380130794
Safest possible thing isnt the correct choice usually. You always have to think "what will I gain". XCOM2 rewards aggression quite a bit. Shotguns are amazing and the only way for low level troops to hit is by exposing the enemies by flanking or grenading.
Psionics are bloody broken, get them asap
t. Legend/Ironman completed

>>380122421
>those red hot Julian bantz

nice

>>380133261
Shame you couldn't force him into a SPARK and make him begrudgingly join you.

>>380122703

They are shit unmodded. Unmodded they can't upgrade their weapon, can't do a lot of shit a regular soldier can. So basically they are good early or slightly mid game but are gabage late game.

Mod them up and they become much better. There's a Long-war-style MEC mod for your SPARKs that lets them become the specialized classes.

>>380132960
Love Psi so much. Nothing like using Fuse on a Muton that you Line of sight hack when he's on a roof top with his buddies. Five enemies, only two survive the two story drop and both shred from the grenade, right into an overwatch trap. Only thing better is Void Rift giving you mass control over a pod of chrysalids that you use to scout a Retaliation mission. Activate every Advent and they run right into your overwatch wall.

>>380133564
You actually can. Sort of.
There's a voice pack modeled after him

>>380133564
...Anon, how don't you know that you can do exactly that. He's an alternate voice option for the Sparks.

Did they say whether the expansion would be stand alone or require the base game?

>>380133783
>>380133823
Voice packs don't count.

So... is that co-op mod still a thing? I haven't checked on it in a while.

>>380110824
Nope, runs exactly the same as it did at launch, don't listen to that other anon.

>>380133783
No, not even sort of. Shen talks about how she made it so that he couldn't fight back and had no choice but to obey. It's part of the story.

>>380078185
is this gonna have ps4 version launch the same date as pc? I got this game on my laptop but I don't want to play is silky smooth 16fps

>>380133986
One would assume it'll be like Enemy Within, in that you'll have to start entirely fresh, with saves separate from the previous iteration of the game, but all the DLC stuff unlocked (if you have it) for the new expansion.

>>380133991

Lily mentions that she's going to try to find a use for Julian at the end of the story. You're supposed to add the voice to a SPARK and pretend she did exactly that.