Are games art?

>>380050329
No

>>380050329
Yes.

>>380050329
no x2

>>380050329
Maybe

notice how it's always the super hard core lefties that want video games to be art?

I wonder why that might be? hmmm.

Pictures aren't art.
Photographs aren't art.
Sound isn't art.
Moving pictures aren't art.
Video games aren't art.

Those are mediums in which you make art.

Depends on what you define as art

>>380050329
are tiger games video games?

>>380050329
Doesn't matter, art is a meaningless tittle. It honestly feels like it's worthless trying to give it a meaningless tittle to validate the fact that they like and play video games. It's really pathetic.

Only if they're a good video game.

Otherwise it's a video game that has art in it.

>>380050329
Videogames are a medium.
Some notable examples of the medium can be defined "art".
People that don't accept these notions are simply afraid. It's a primordial fear. They are scared of taking responsability of judging something beyond their personal tastes, which would require way some kind of actual knowledge about how a videogame is made.

>>380050329
what are they discussing on that pic

>>380050329
Yes, and so are those posts.

>>380050329
They definitely can be, but there are few that come close to being deserving of being called art. Then again, art is such a broad term that you can call almost anything man man-made art and make a case for it.

>>380050924
somebody probably said something was sexist and that guy was probably banned

>>380050924
I think it was when a Kotaku writer called Kamitani a pedophile for his art in Dragon's Crown? Then Kamitani drew the hard gay dwarves for him.
Could be very wrong here.

>>380050924
Kotaku wants to ban big anime tiddies

Some can be. Those crazy fucking slavs who made The Void and Pathologic, those are. they make you SUFFER for ART.

Self-masturbatory hipster devs who come out with hour-long walking simulators claiming they're art, aren't.

They are, pretty much anything can be considered art. But games that aim for artistic are merit invariably shit, developers shoud concentate on good gameplay rather than trying to be deep.

>>380050329
No. Games will be aren't when society views games as art, not when hipster douchebag indie devs or trade-press hacks want to feel better about telling people what they do. Games are toys.

>>380050889
Adding a detail to the post, those that "argue" everything is art are the same kind of people that say videogames are not art. They are still scared about thinking and not being able to validate their tastes.
That's why they speak in extremes: either games are not art or everything is art, they don't have the will and courage to actually find a middle ground, because that's too much work for their neurons and it wouldn't allow their opinion to be heard.

>>380051462
Hotline Miami also had a real genuine feeling behind it.
The 2 swedes that made it obviously wanted to say something with the game, and they half succeeded.

They can have artistic properties. Buttheir art is secondary and they are first and foremost, games.
also Would you guys consider tabletop games to be art?

>>380053126
>also Would you guys consider tabletop games to be art?
Of course. Gameplay can be so well made and crafted it could be considered artistic, in some cases.