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Why is /v/ so pissed off by this game?

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Why is /v/ so pissed off by this game?
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/v/ is /pol/
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because hitler is a good guy
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We're sick of cinematic FPS and we want more immersive sims
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I see more people complaining about fascists than i see fascists complaining.
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It doesn't look fun
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>>380021175
Because you're forced to shoot the wrong side
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generic plot for a generic game and the most stand out thing about it is the afroamerican stereotype lady
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>>380021175
>why is /pol/ so pissed off by this game?

There now it's correct.
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Faggots keep making threads titled "Why is /v/ so pissed off by this game?"
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because you keep making threads about it
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>>380021175
I'm pissed off because it's not the wolfenstien I know a love.

RtCW was goat.
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I'm fine with killing Nazis in Wolfenstein, I really am. That's always been the point.

But siding with communists?

Fuck off.

Also, Nazis hated the KKK. Hitler would never have sided with them as this suggests. It's just poorly thought out liberal agenda "LOOK AT THESE BAD GUYS BETTER KILL THEM. PS PLS BE TOLERANT OF OTHERS" horseshit.

And if that wasn't enough, they had to make BJ a kike. A blue eyed Texan American is now retconned to be a Polish Jew.

It's pathetic, really.
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>>380021175
>looks like last gen game
>nu-Wolfenstein sucks dick
>no occult stuff
>homefront but with nazis and niggers
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Because Jewthesda won't stop pumping out shitty rehashed sequels
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>>380022050
>Texan Americans can't have Polish Jewish ancestry

>mu-muh commies
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>>380021517
you didn't like the mixed dual wielding? you didn't like the rotary-barrel shotgun? you didn't like the idea of a super suit?

it looks like you did nothing but look at a few screenshots of black people in the game and then come on /v/ to whine
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>>380021175
Because /v/ is retarded.
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>>380022376
>1940-60s commies are hated and are still hated to this day for the most part
>guy is basically a reincarnation of a soldier from that time
I mean whatever i dont care
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>>380022376
BEFORE WW2?

Very unlikely, yes. Almost impossibly.
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>>380022050
>Hitler would never have sided with them as this suggests
By the game where Hitler is dead?
Showing off your amazing knoweldege of the series right there buddy
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>>380022050
Nazis hated the KKK
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>>380022050
>they had to make BJ a kike.
He was always a jew
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>>380022050

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

Historically speaking, the United States and the UK teamed up with the Soviets to take down Nazi Germany. Once Germany was defeated, they immediately went into the Cold War where the former allies would be bitter rivals for decades. It makes sense here that two groups who ordinarily hate each other would work together to beat a much stronger foe they both hate more than each other. For comparison in a similar time frame, the Nationalists and Communist Chinese never worked together, and the two of them couldn't do shit to defeat the stronger Japanese.

>Blazkowicz
>not a Polish name

You can be a natural born American with a non-western European last name, which is clearly what BJ is. He's never been confirmed to be Jewish.
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>>380021175
It will portray white cis males who think 2+2=4 as bad guys.
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>>380022634
National socialism is a pretty solid ideology, while the KKK is a bunch of inbred idiots on the same level as modern day muslims from backwards corners of the earth.

I think the Nazis would have viewed the KKK as subhumans, same as modern day neonazis, funnily enough
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>>380021175
It's a vocal minority of easily triggered idiots who don't know shit about video games but browse /v/ because video games are so normie-accessible. What /pol/tards don't want you to know is that /pol/ is actually normie-central, it's the definition of a gateway board, basically /b/ 2.0. So it should be no surprise that when the board leaks, it's to other accessible boards.
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>AYO HOL UP WHITE BOI
>WE WUZ RESISTANCE N SHIEEEEET
The absolute worst.
The rest is fine.
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>>380022480
Not him, but the supersuit is not a good example, cause in the trailer it looks like you are invulnerable with it on, which would make the game somewhat boring if you cannot die. Then again I am all for a run and gun game where you are invincible and just plow through enenies, but it doesn't work in a game with a story.
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>>380021175
I'm not.
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>>380021175
>/v/ is one person
There are droves of neonazis and impressionable people on the internet and if you think all of those posts here are bait or merely pretending for fun then you're a fool.
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Hitler was not racist, he was jewish himself.
If anything the German people themselves were more racist than Hitler himself. He could see the Jewish underworld organization firsthand was ruining germany and the economy of the people. In a selfless act, setting his own race aside, he decided to tackle these things for the greater good. The Jews, these people and their families were all a part of it. You couldn't trust anybody, not even women and children because they would hide and lie for others. It was a gigantic spiderweb of a hierarchy that Hitler was trying to demolish and failed. He wasn't even aryan himself, he was simply trying to stir the people of Germany to stand up for themselves. He was the Jesus Christ of germany and died for their sins. Jesus Christ was a jew, and was killed by Jews for not endorsing their way of life and denouncing it.
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Is this Mafia III all over again?
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>>380024270
Yes
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Since trump election we had a huge influx of newfags who somehow think it's a good place for them, alt right and all that.
Ironic shitposters, ironic weebs, ironic nazis all of those came after gamergate/trump.
Just ignore them and filter their threads.
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>>380021175
I don't like this and previous game for oposite reasons than /pol/

I hate this nazi wank fest.
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>>380022050
>Caring about historical accuracy in a game where you kill nazis in mechs riding a fire-breathing robot dog in an iron man suit
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>>380021175
they are turning people who murdered 100 million people into a good guys
fuck them
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>Most threads are actually started by people complaining about /pol/'s opinion of the game
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>>380024683
>Just ignore them and filter their threads.
This. Literally all these threads have just been you fags complaining about something that doesn't exist.
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Can someone explain the siding with communists posts I keep seeing... Did I miss something in the trailer?
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>>380024683
newfag shill
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>guy tries prevent communist takeover and preserve white nationality while jews attack his country from the inside
>britain spits in his face and turns on him
>decades of anti-white propaganda pumped out vilifying him and his people during and after the war, including a "holocaust" that you're not allowed to investigate ever
>he became the "most evil man in history"
>when guys like stalin and lmao existed
>his country is now being invaded by foreign conquerors and nothing is being done to stop it because the populace have been brainwashed for years to believe they deserve it
>germany will cease to exist in your lifetime
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>>380021254
You are reddit.
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/pol/ became a meme so now nothing can be discussed without being deraled into retards falling for bait.
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>>380022480
Seen it all before.
Nothing that given an SDK couldn't be made into a mod.
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>>380025775
damn
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>>380021175
Dude just wanted to drink his milkshake and see some Id, he didnt deserve to get an axe to the back.
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>>380021175
Cos it looks cool and /v/ is a bunch of whiny tossers.
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Because all of 4chin is just about fishing for responses now
Hurr nazi jew controversy gets a lot of (you)s, and the anon gets to feel like they matter in the world
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>>380026024
idiot everyone is on /pol/'s side now everyone knows that /pol/ is right about everything and once we get rid of the lefties libtards sjws and demotraitors we'll be maga
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>>380024179
>Hitler was Jewish
Is there any concrete proof of this?
I've seen reports of it and then I've seen reports dismissing the other reports
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Because it's ham fisted horn shoeing of a political agenda.
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The game looks good but the falseflagging of nazis sucks
Nazis originally were not bad people, neither were their leaders.
Here they just want them to seem like despots and niggerhaters, which modern nazis have become.
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>>380021254
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>>380022634
The Nazis used the KKK as a major target in their anti-american propaganda.
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>>380027084
Is this bait?
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>>380027217
No. Just tell me how are nazis bad people?
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>>380027084
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>>380022634
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>>380025560
>every assassins creed origin thread is full of "we waz kings" spam.
>the board has had hundreds of "why are the nazis bad guys" threads in just the past 5 hours.

But /pol/ and r/trump are not flooding /v/guys it's all your imagination.
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>>380027620
How the fuck new are you kid.

/V/ has always been pol lite since it's birth

This isn't fucking new
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>>380027389
They killed lot of people, took away many civil liberties, conquered lot of countries, and also did lot of sadistic torture on their citizens. The New Order's depiction of the Nazis is not an exaggeration.
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>>380027620
>one is about calling out blackwashing every thread it features in
>other is a surge of people calling out blatant propaganda
>"same thing!"
really yiffs my .tiffs
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>>380021175
>1000 threads about "why is /v/ pissed off at this game/at killing nazis/boo hoo the ebil kikes are making me kill de natsees
>no actual "im upset at the woflenstein game" threads
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>>380027783
Are you implying it's not worse now?

When the last ass creed game was announced /v/ hated on the gameplay

Now they hate it because black people.
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>>380027952
Yiff in hell furfag
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>>380021592
I don't see any threads on /pol/ about this game
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>>380025761
this desu

after i allocate fuck all ammounts of money im getting the fuck out of here
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>>380022634
You forgot your > there buddy.
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>>380028093
And nothing of value was lost.
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Says who? This is gonna be great.
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>>380027848
>literally believing this
is the 300 movie extremely accurate too???
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>>380028093
And going where?
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>>380028018
The gameplay looks even worse though
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>>380028184
there is evidence of them commiting genocide, what more do you need?
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>>380026926
>marinelepenlost
>francedidnotbecamefrancistant
>trumpsoontobeimpeach'd

Cry some more while I will be unloading my hard earned cash in the next wolfenstein, looser. :3
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>>380023034
>"the enemy of the enemy is my friend"

Historically speaking during WW2. Resistance groups with differing ideology fought each other more than they fought the Nazis
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>TNO is exactly the same shit and is generally the same shitand is well liked on /v/
>TNC is announced and everyone spergs the fuck out, acting like anything about it is new, and there's threads on other boards too, like /pol/ and /tv/

Nah, I know you fuckers are retarded but I don't buy it. This has to be fake controversy shilling so that people can report about how the """"alt-right" and """"4chan"""" hate the new Wolfenstein.
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>>380027620

>make bait threads
>get meme posts
>l-look, /pol/ and a subreddit are invading again!
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Relax, people will get all huffy puffy about this game and within a week threads like this will be few and far between.

See: Far Cry 5
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>>380028204
Then start a thread about it and watch as no one discusses it and it's full of "why black people?"
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>>380022050
>Texan American
>Blazkowitz
He was always polish-american dumbass. Where did he get the jew part from? Is it autism?
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>>380028184
What's your counter claim? They have pictures, logs of torture experiments, witnesses, newspaper clippings, propaganda posters, etc.
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>>380028252
There is evidence of black people committing the most crimes, does it automatically make all black people evil?
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>>380023290
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>>380027981
Is it true that if one of us makes a thread with our fetish on /gif/ you guys have to find porn for the fetish and constantly keep a thread up about that fetish?
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I thought Wolfenstein was about shooting fascists, what is all this talky feely bullshit doing here?
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>>380021175
Just knee-jerking based on a handful of other recent games with similar themes that were hamfisted.

I don't think it's going to be on the nose, like Mafia III / Watch Dogs 2 / etc. etc. BJ us ckearky far removed from the goofy civil rights parody characters.
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>>380023290
>Quentin Tarantino showed me everything I need to know about the KKK
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>>380028451
but i'm not saying all blacks are innocent angels
and you're claiming nazis are good people
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is the new order good? I've thought about getting it a few times but never gone through with it
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>>380021175
1. Polygon writers falseflagging to stir up fake outrage just like with the Far Cry 5 petition
2. People making jokes

If anyone is genuinely upset over a Wolfenstein game featuring the killing of nazis they should seek help
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>>380027848
A lot of people killed a lot of people. Check out Operation Gomorah. Allied bombers killed 40k people in a few days while bombing Hamburg. Civilians not soldiers. Check out the bombings of Sofia in Bulgaria. An axis country which never sent troops to the east front even though they were asked on many occasions, didnt send troops to fight against the brits or the us armed forces. Bulgaria didnt take part in the invasion of Yugoslavia or Greece and yet the USAAF, USAF and RAF bombed it.

The Japanese tortured people as well and did science experiment. The USA had "labor camps" for japanese and japanese americans.

Many countries joined them willingly.
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>>380028505
fuck if i know, I've never been on /gif/
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>>380028632
Yeah it's worth playing. Get it on sale
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>>380028454
>vinyl
why? was jazz too scary fro the germans?
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>>380021175
Because it shows what could have been and how you have to destroy this dream
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>>380028624
I would rather have a nazi neighbor than a black neighbor
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>>380028624
Not all, just they could make some other setting to keep things fresh, ja?
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>>380028438
True. Those masturbation machines, not-lice gassings, ovens that didn't produce any ashes despite burning 400 people a day, swords coming out of floors and walls, and holocoasters were truly the works of evil geniuses. Those jewish-made lamps and soaps were evil too I guess.
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>>380028410
Because there really isn't a discussion to be had there
It's ascreed, the gameplay is going to suck fat cocks like every other Ubisoft game, we all have known this for years

The race thing is controversial, therefore it generates more discussion
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>>380028672
What does this have to do with Nazis? Are you trying to say because others in history have done terrible things too, the Nazis aren't so bad?
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>>380028637
/thread
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Why haven't the nazis gotten rid of African Americans yet?
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>>380028849
oy vey my grandfather was turned into a lamp you BIGOT.
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>>380028672
All war is bad, that's why you shouldn't glorify any of the sides, as all commited war crimes, it's just that the victors won't punish their soldiers for them
that's why american public had a rude awakening at vietnam and were protesting the war so fervently, because that war shattered the myth of the rightousness of the US
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WE
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>>380027620
The ass creed trailor literally opens with WE
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>>380028849
You forgot that hitler was in direct contact with ALIENS
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>>380028815
I wouldn't, fucker would generalplan ost me as soon as I turned my back on him
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>>380021175
Not /v/, /pol/. People who legitimately think Hitler did nothing wrong.

Why did we have to act like idiots and attract stormfags?
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>>380028738
Jazz was said to corrupt the youth, thus it was banned like everything that wasnt approved by the party
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>>380028849
>ovens that didn't produce any ashes
Where does it say that they didn't?
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>>380027620

>Anthem is already forgotten because it's a grey mass of every AAA fad hastily mashed together

The first two days of E3 have given jack shit, there's nothing else to talk about.
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>>380025761
no one gave a shit about nazi germany until hitler started invading neighboring countries, and even then the other countries were incredibly tolerant about it up until the point germany invaded poland

turns out hitler wasn't completely innocent after all!!!
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>>380029168
not even all /pol/ thinks hitler is great, only the amerilards do
literally 90% of hitler praising posts on /pol/ are made by an american
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Becaue you reply to obvious bait so you can talk about your politics.
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>>380029168
>hurr durr /pol/ is really activated almond
>all the similar shitpost is on /v/ and there's only one post on /pol/ talking about it, and anybody with a brain can easily see that the replies in both thread is different
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NAZIS AND KKK BEINGPORTRAYED AS BAD GUYS? nawww...... really???
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>>380029194
jazz was nigger music. look where music is now.

molly percocet smoke weed every day niggah take a hit from the bong

ariana grande literally sings about getting fucked so hard she cant stand

hitler did nothing wrong desu
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>>380029281

>France just sat around and waited to get their asses kicked while everyone else was pointing out "this fucker's gonna invade you sooner or later, might want to pay attention"
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>>380028565
It's wolfensteins ball and chain
Game is very shallow
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>>380029391
Ah well. My point is that it's the crossposters that are upset about it, not the actual /pol/fags themselves.
I personally think it looks alright, though.
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>>380028959
People seem to overlook the other things that happened in the same time period. 120k japenese americans were forced to move from their homes to camps because of fear that they might be double agents.

It's like with communism. People who lived well under communist regime and saw only the good of it wont speak ill of it and same goes for national socialism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQdDnbXXn20

>>380029016
I agree, people just should not overlook the other aspects of ww2. It's not all black and white, there is lots of gray areas.
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>>380021175
Comfy Nazi murdering simulator trying to appeal to the WE WUZ crowd and commies.
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Can we please just separate /v/ into western and japanese, you'd never see any of this political shit from either side in /jv/
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>>380029436
>france declares war on germany
>surprised and mad when they are invaded
???
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>>380029432
>not only a /pol/ nigger, but a "pop music sux" 14 year old
Figures
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>>380021175
DUDE INGLORIOUS BASTERDS LMAO
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>>380027783
how new are you

i've been here since like 2008 and all i remember from those times is people doing shitty memetalk and posting shitty memes and occasionally posting about video games. back then jack thompson's anti-violence bullshit was the boogieman, not sjw shit. people were still racist but it was different back then, people tried to be funny about it but now it's just "look at this graph that shows that black people blah blah blah oh you don't care? well let me just call you a cuck and post 10 more"
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>>380029612
enjoy your pop music lowest common demoninator trash written by jews to make the most money possible
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/pol/tards are crying about killing nazis in a fucking Wolfenstein game
They're hilarious
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>>380029521
there's no "crossposters" here.
there's only shitposters and shills.

When captcha went down that day,
all shitposting is gone.
unless you're telling me that /pol/ is poorfags and couldn't afford a gold pass
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>>380029538
>People seem to overlook the other things that happened in the same time period.
Yeah, that's true. Japanese internment camps (aka concentration camps) gets glossed over a lot. Lot of citizens lost their civil rights and properties just because of racist fears.

>It's not all black and white, there is lots of gray areas.
One thing that isn't gray is that Nazis were really fucked up though. Like really sadistic sons of bitches.
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>>380025761
>charlie chaplin impersonator takes control of weimarland
>he remilitarises rhineland
>he then stages a coup in austria
>then the fucking madman takes over sudetenland
>actually scratch that, all of bohemia
>and then poland
>and then france
>and then denmark
>and then norway
>and then goes as far as 18km from moscow
>and then he devised a whole plan of exterminating majority of slav people
>i swear angry moustache man wasn't a genocidal warmonger guise, he only wanted whats best for the white peoples
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>>380029702
>REEEE POP MUSIC
I haven't listened to the radio in years. I wouldn't even know the name of the most popular artists if you whiny little fucks didn't complain about how bad they are.
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>>380027084
>socialists and redistribution of property isn't bad as long as it's not for commission but for "nationalists"

I fucking hate nazi larping cunts.

Better dead than red.
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>>380029879
>yes i read the slav extermination plan on wikipedia. those nazis were so evil, that slavs fled with them back west when they started losing the eastern front
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>>380029798
Actually yes, I've always assumed /pol/ was all Southern neo-Confederate white trash who can barely afford a burger from McDonald's.
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It's done jokingly, OP. No one really supports Nazism.
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>>380021175
Is this all Bethesda announced? I didn't watch their press conference.
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>>380021287
Then why did Prey and Dishonored 2 sell so poorly?
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>>380029936
>if i cant see/hear it it doesnt exist
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if the games fun it doesn't matter cause imma pirate it keep your political shit to your yourself im here to play games
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>>380021406
This pretty much. One person says something slightly /pol/ related that's probably just shitposting and people start sperging out and spamming their anti-/pol/ folders.
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>>380029761
>hur its just /pol/tards crying about yet another nazi killing simulator guys!
Meanwhile actual complaints are about the communist propaganda it features.
Sorry about your retardation my man.
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>>380021175
>being mad you kill nazis in wolfenstein

It's like you never even played a wolfenstein game lmao that's the entire point of the game dummy
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>>380030058

>We're sick of cinematic FPS

Why did you ask a question after it was answered?
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>>380029810
>It's not all black and white, there is lots of gray areas.
>One thing that isn't gray is that Nazis were really fucked up though. Like really sadistic sons of bitches.
that's just intellectually dishonest, you can't say that everyone else is in the grey, except the other side, who definitely and unmistakably bad
there were awful nazis, there were alright nazis, just like any other side in the war
Your enemy is not a devil's spawn, he's human, has a family, wants for the war to end so he can see his sweetheart again, wants to dress in clean clothes and drink fresh milk just as much as you do
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>>380030205
>communist propaganda
You're calling ME retarded?
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>>380030057
They also announced Paid mods 2: The Revenge
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>>380030205
But soviets are the ones who beat Nazi's you guys barely did shit.
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>>380025052

This. Who gives a shit? It's Wolf.
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>>380030004
>yes i am american i know a lot about history that's why i love hitler
I am slavic dumbfuck, you don't even know what nazis have done to my country
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>>380030307
This is literally proven though. It's really not an exaggeration.
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>>380027783
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>>380030274
Are you implying that those games are cinematic fps games. Don't think we have played the same games.
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>>380028272
Trump isn't getting impeached like you dream of, and he is a shabbos goy, so you should be happy about it.
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>>380029879
And yet lots of slavs fought on the side of the Nazis, Croatians, Ukrainians, Russians, Czech, and if you consider the balts slavs as well you have Lithuania, Latvia. Both in the regular army and in the SS
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>>380029168
Only leafs suck hitler's dick

/pol/ itself is full of people who disagree with each other
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>>380030007
Would you guys all buy a pass to keep trying to false flag?
>>380029798
I hate to say it but maybe this needs to be tried for a while. Hiroshima is supposedly into this kind of thing. It would of course just back fire if tumblr decided to pony up too which I imagine they would since it's only 5 bucks or whatever.
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>>380022050
>But siding with communists?
>
>Fuck off.
I wouldn't be surprised BJ is just doing this to get help taking down the nazis. He's always been one of those 100% true american kind of people. Also just look at the commie leader he just looks like he'll backstab you late game
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>>380030205
>communist propaganda
name one example
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>>380028438
>They have pictures, l
the most jewish lie, is the lie where they show you a picture and then proceed to talk about something entirely different, and not connected to the images shown on screen in any way.

They do this all the fucking time; they show images of dead bodies being bulldozed in to graves, while talking about gaschambers.
They even do it at schools, and you swallow it because you haven't been told anything else.

Here is some food for thought, or something to get you started;
Images shown of "gassed" always appear to be so thin they might as well have starved to death. so why even gas them?
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>>380030123
As far as I'm concerned, yea.
I'm sorry I don't willingly subject myself to garbage music. Try getting some fucking self-control and maybe a car receiver with bluetooth for your vehicle.
Wait, lets be honest; you're too poor or young to even own a car. Ask your mom to buy you a phone with a data plan so you can listen to something other than the radio when she drives you to daycare.
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>>380024048
Why are you being such an insufferable prick lately, /v/?
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Would capitalism end the false flagging menace?
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>>380022050
>And if that wasn't enough, they had to make BJ a kike. A blue eyed Texan American is now retconned to be a Polish Jew.

Boy oh boy are you retarded. They never said he wasn't a jew and his last is basically jew
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>>380030205
What Communist propaganda? Where the fuck do people get this from? BJ try to talk to the commie alliance to form a resisteance and then the commie gets triggered saying how US is imperialist warmachine, wallstreet are getting rich blah blah blah, then BJ kicks the chair and blows him the fuck out because he wants a world without nazis for his kids to enjoy and doesn't give a fuck about wallstreet or any of that shit.

I don't remember if you posted the same picture with the same bait, but if you did, you got me. Fucking hell I don't know if it's genuine or bait anymore
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>>380022050
also he will end up fucking the black chick and making a mixed kid screencap this post its happening
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>>380028074
I literally just went there and I found 2 threads on the front page, I didn't even check the catalog
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>>380030992

>crackhead Pam Grier

Might as well just shut down the entire industry at this point.
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>>380030768
weren't you arguing against him for disliking post-modern music?
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>>380031128
end your life
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>>380024683
>Since trump election
well that explains how you got here
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>>380030697
>so why even gas them?
I don't know, I'm not the Nazis. They were extremely cruel and sadistic.
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>>380030934
>BJ try to talk to the commie alliance to form a resisteance and then the commie gets triggered saying how US is imperialist warmachine, wallstreet are getting rich blah blah blah
Why is it in there if the Nazis won and have control of the US?
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>>380030562
>ukrainians
Ukrainians only did it because nazis were slightly better than soviets
>russians
The amount of people in ROA was negligible, and even then it was just a propaganda thing, and their commander was imprisoned
>czechs
I don't know of any czech military units, though there was the Slovak Legion, which consisted of three infantry divisions if i remember correctly
>croats
it's only natural that fascists collaborate with other fascists, and only croatian fascists supported nazi germany
>lithuania latvia
those aren't slavs, and like ukraine they only served in german army because they viewed them as liberators
It's curious that you didn't list Poland or Belarus though, wonder why is that
Maybe because germans committed a vast number of atrocities in those countries and the populace was widely against the nazi regime to the point of organizing an uprising and actively engaging in resistance?
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SHIIIIIIIIIIET WHITEY

WE E3 NOW
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>>380030697
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>>380030816
I'm sorry
Love ya
choo~
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>we have to side with the communists to overthrow the nazis
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>>380028301
They did?
Any source on that?
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>>380031345
also, as an addendum because i checked out of curiosity, more ukrainians joined the red army than any of units fighting alongside wehrmacht due to them being mistreated by Third Reich
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>>380031468
>pretending to kiss random strangers on the internet, /v/ no less
>being a slut
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>>380031569
https://youtu.be/YO-Ocueehfc
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>>380031698
Interesting, thanks Anon
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>>380031569
Polish resistance was generally unified in that they all fought nazis, though not always agreeing with one another, but I do not know about resistance groups in other countries
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>>380031391
Uh, did you get that name right? Why would Rudolf Hess know anything about the Holocaust when he was imprisoned in England when it started? I think you mean Rudolf Höss.
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>>380024319
Whats the first two games?
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>>380021175
Nazis were stylish as fuck, that trailer got me hyped. I don't understand, who is mad about this?
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>>380021175
First game was bland and boring
This is sequel to a bland and boring game
Gee I wonder
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>>380021175
American setting and KKK inclusion and good guy communists, no one actually cared when it was just about killing Nazis, here they're blatantly going for political propaganda.
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the nazi shit has been played to death and i am personally sick and tired of having it shoved down my throat in a time where we have monthly terror attacks in europe done by shitskins and kebabs
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>>380022050
>I'm fine with killing Nazis
>But siding with communists?
literally history
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>>380031345
There were soldiers from Poland who served, but they were spread out in different unit. Even the grandpa of Donald Tusk from the EU council served in 328. Grenadier-Ersatz-und Ausbilldungsbatallion. He later deserted, but still served.

Simple google search also shows that there were volunteer units of belarussians
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>>380032168
https://youtu.be/qTYSv_YQOVo
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>>380032003
The story of Rudolf Höss's confession is perhaps one of the most jewish stories you'll ever read.
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>>380027848
>They killed lot of people
Does not make them bad at all. Do you think Nazis didn't have casualties?
>conquered lot of countries
LITERALLY ONE
>took away many civil liberties and also did lot of sadistic torture on their citizens
Nuremberg Laws?
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Is there anything more pathetic than a 4chan autist larping as a nazi?
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>>380032331
>later deserted

I wonder why

Also, how many slav Nazi volunteers were there compared to Soviet slav volunteers, slav partisans and resistance personnel, etc.?
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>>380032113
How do I get this incredibly stupid, guys? It seems like such an easy lifestyle
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>>380025052
Pretty much this.
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>>380032293
>LITERALLY ONE
ah yes, the polish-french-czechoslovakian-danish-norwegian-dutch union
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>>380032421
>Does not make them bad at all.
Killing innocent people isn't bad?
>Do you think Nazis didn't have casualties?
Why does this matter? I'm sure ISIS had casualties too, doesn't mean ISIS is less evil.
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>>380032540
Yeah I remember the same controversy about the last Wolfenstien released only a few years ago, except there wasn't one.
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>>380021175
The bad guy is Hillary Clinton and 90% of /v/ voted for her.
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>>380032168
How else are you gonna believe who the real evil people are?
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I'm just tired of Nazis or empire that clearly resemble Nazis as bad guys. Its just boring and unimaginative, and always there so that the devs don't need to establish a moral high ground. There is always this idealized version of the technologically superior Nazi empire , so that its very clear that you are the perfect underdog good guy, and they are the super evil bad guys. Its not just games, but movies too, and its only made by people who can't get over WWII, and really believe that it was the honorable americans who stood up to the evil superior Nazis or something.
Is it really so bad to ask for some sort of interesting premise, or antagonist, because this shit is boring.
Also the writing is fucking cringy.
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Because it hurts american sensitivities, and you know every american, be it unbelievably nationalistic or a cheesy SJW hates that.
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>>380032993
>Is it really so bad to ask for some sort of interesting premise, or antagonist, because this shit is boring.

Perhaps, but not in a Wolfenstein game. BJ kills Nazis. DOOMGUY kills Demons. Don't fix what ain't broke.
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>>380027620
>WE WUZ is a trump era meme
Spotted the summerfag.
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>>380032331
Volksdeutches didn't consider themselves polish, they viewed themselves as germans
You're also omitting the fact that many poles were forced to enlist, particularily from silesia, since they were considered german by law, even if they claimed otherwise.
Most of poles servind in wehrmacht that were captured by allies immidietely switched sides.
On the subject of belarussians in wehrmacht,the ones that volunteered in belarus thought of them as liberators but they quickly saw they're just as bad as soviets, if not worse.
My point still stands, there were more slavs opposed to nazi regime than ones actually supporting it as it was directly detrimental to them
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>>380032021
Mafia 3
Uncharted 4
Both shitty games
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>>380021175
no one is pissed, this game is a great redpill in his own way
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>>380033175
>he thinks burgers are patriotic about their 56% globalist cuck abornatoin anymore

Balkanization might be around the corner if there's a considerable enough catalyst
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>>380032993
>>380032168
Underdog bullshit sells like a motherfucker and the occult/experimentalism the nazis had boners for is fuel for creative exaggeration.

Shit's going to keep being made until the islamists reveal that they're digging for caches of alien space-tech.
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>Stalin has more people killed by "work"camps and execution than Hitler did during WW2
>But Hitler was racist so nazis bad, commies good
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>>380022050
>Also, Nazis hated the KKK. Hitler would never have sided with them as this suggests.
Nazis also didn't win WW2 dickweed. It's almost as if Wolfenstein is not about historical accuracy.
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WHY IS /pol/ INVADING DURING E3

FUCK OFF /pol/ NOBODY CARES
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>>380032636
>Killing innocent people isn't bad?
Everyone in WWII killed innocents and civillians.
>I'm sure ISIS had casualties too, doesn't mean ISIS is less evil.
ISIS is a terrorist group, Great German Empire is an entire nation, there is a difference.
Also the cause and goal of these conflicts are completely different
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>>380031391
death rollercoasters and electrifying floors
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>>380033615
>everyone committed atrocities
>but these atrocities are more important than the other atrocities
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>>380021175
>SHIIIIEEET IT A WHITE BOI I SEE
>"Evil white" KKK best friends with Nazis
>Russians dindu nuffin despite killing way more than the Nazis ever managed
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>>380033761
no, but the numbers speak for themselves

gooks and russians murdered the most civilians by far
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>>380033686

Hello jew.
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>>380033689
So killing civilians is OK when you're a nation? Why is one acceptable while the other isn't?

Also, do explain how the cause of setting up an Islamic caliphate is any less "noble" than creating some Grossdeutschereich or whatever.
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>/pol/ gets triggered by a fucking video game

Are you guys literally shaking yet?
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>>380033689
>Everyone in WWII killed innocents and civillians
Not everyone. It was mostly Nazis, America (bombing Japan), and Japan (raping Korea). And just because someone else did a bad thing doesn't make the other bad thing not bad. Would you let a murderer go free if he says "Hey, I killed people but there are many more murderers out there too."
>ISIS is a terrorist group, Great German Empire is an entire nation, there is a difference
The only difference is size. Having casualties does not make either group less evil.
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>americans takes credit for defeating htiler when the russians did most of the work
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>>380034035
Are you guys at least getting paid? How much longer do you guys see yourselves posting here?
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>>380033939
Didn't gooks and russians mainly kill other gooks and russians, while Germans killed not just Jews and Gypsies but Poles, Jehovah's Witnesses, and a bunch of other non-German groups? It's understandable the rest of the world wouldn't care about third-worlders killing themselves but regard Germans killing non-Germans as the more immediate threat.
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>>380033562
But technically, the Nazis were the Underdogs. They had fewer and more incompetent allies, and worse equipment at the start of the war. The "Nazis were technological masterminds" is a shitty meme that needs to die. Almost all of their equipment was shit from the beginning to the middle of the war, and their initial success only came from superior tactics, like the Blitzkrieg. Germanys technology only surpassed the Allies, during the middle and the end, where germanys massive industry was completely shifted towards the war, but by then it was too late.
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>/pol/ claims to be working to stop white genocide
>Hates when people portray nazis as bad guys working to destroy white civilization
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>>380033454
don't disagree, but
*peaceful
*talk
*ghetto
*attack
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>>380034171
If England had lost the battle of Britain, everybody would've been fucked and the nazis would have won.
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>>380033939
russians are notoriously good at killing and imprisoning their own
and the japanese are savages, their policy in china was literally called "the three alls policy" which means "kill all, burn all, loot all"
>>380034171
it's not entirely true 2bh, russians did recieve a shitton of us equipment, though it's true that russians did most of the heavy lifting
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>>380033686
/v/ is and always has been rightful /pol/ish clay communism will not be tolerated
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>>380034325
where's the contradiction, exactly?
>>
/pol/ was a mistake.
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>>380033689
>Everyone in WWII killed innocents and civillians

Minor collateral damage is different from mass civilian slaughter. In which case would be Germany, 'Murica and Japan.

WWII Japan was fucking savage especially with what they did to the other SEA countries like Korea and Singapore.
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>>380034325
>/pol/
>white

the board is filled with self-loathing shitkins
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>>380034227
>Didn't gooks and russians mainly kill other gooks and russians,
false
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God I can't wait to kill more nazi scum in this game.
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>>380034442
germans at least treated western POW with a smidget of respect, the fucking japanese were barbaric in regards to captured american soldiers
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>>380032282
Reminder:
Lend Lease to the Soviet Union accounted anywhere from 15-50% of goods, depending on what they were.
Lend Lease accounted for:
>18% of all aircraft in the Soviet airforce
>16 of fighter aircraft
>20% of bomber aircraft
>29% of naval aircraft
>all of Russia's top grade aviation fuel
>rubber for tires
>all of their aluminum
>1/3rd of their ammunition
>500,000 trucks
>tens of thousands of tanks
>all telephone communications late war
>317,000 tons of explosives and 22 million shells
>103,000 tons of toluene, the ingredient for TNT
>991 million cartridge shells for various caliber rifle ammunition
>2.3 million tons of steel
>3.8 million tons of food
>56,000 telephones
>600,000 km of telephone wire
>15 million pairs of army boots

The Soviet Union would have crumbled from the incompetence of communism and the unrelenting fury of the German war machine in 1941-42 if not for the Allies. Your tanks were so poorly made that when the Americans field tested them they were appalled at how quickly they broke down.
They were CANNON. FODDER. and nothing more.
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Its looks like an average shooter with some political message added to create controversy in order to get free advertising.
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Story looks pretentious as fuck just like in the first game with BJs depressing monologues.

Still going to buy it because the gameplay is fun.
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>>380034498
Really? Which other groups did the Soviets and the Chinese kill? IIRC the bulk of Soviet deaths were Ukranians, who were other slavs, and the Chinese mainly starved their own people. Genuinely curious, I haven't heard of other mass deaths those regimes caused in other countries.
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>>380034667
soviets did kill a lot of polish inteligentsia, but compared to overall death toll it's not a high number
they also did rape their way to berlin, let's not forget that
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>>380022050
>Americans
Fucking top kek
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>>380034941
Oh yes, the Katyn Massacre. But IIRC they killed a few thousands, like you said not high comparatively. Whenever Nazis talk about the "millions" killed by Communism it's always the famines or the Great Leap Forward, which as far as I know primarily killed internally rather than externally, which was why they weren't seen as an equal threat to the Nazis.
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>>380035020
I sincerely hope you're doing your part in helping your country not be a disgusting culture-less melting devolving shit hole.
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>>380021175
Were there more of these America is the bad guy where you kill racists before Trump, like is this actually a new trend?
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>>380034667
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
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>>380034596
>this is what Americans believe

No he Soviet union did the most job and wasn't relying on the US at all. Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia are the best fighting countries that exist
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>/v/ loves nazis
>/v/ hates communism
>when they're exact same shit
Damn, realy activates your cashews innit
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>>380035285
Yes, I agree.
Also you gotta understand that not talking about these is strictly political, as there is evidence of western allies knowing both about the katyn massacre and the great famine, but they feared soviet response if they did anything, as well as the general public's reaction to who they're allying themselves with.
It's not without reason that no one talks about the great leap forward or holodomor
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>>380035285
nobody knew about the holocaust until the war was nearly over
soviets covered up their own genocides for decades
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>>380021175
The previous one was super hamfisted with the political commentary, to the point where it start to become a drag halfway through the game.

I expect this one to be more so due to the current climate, I wouldn't be shocked that at one point you will be fighting a young nazi Trump with freedumb fighter Hillary by your side.
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>>380035372
Fuck off nigger. Don't even reply to me.
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>>380035709
allies knew about both holocaust and soviet atrocities
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>>380035659
>>/v/ loves nazis
>>/v/ hates communism
>>when they're exact same shit
How could your underdeveloped mind ever come up with that kind of conclusion?
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>>380028202
Poland.
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>>380035659
Well on the surface one is having high standards and pride in oneself and one's people and having a duty to strive for lofty ideals and the other is you are all fucking idiot slobs, let better people decide what you get.
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>>380021175
Because /v/ is contaminated with neonazis.
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>>380021175
Why is there black people and the KKK if the Nazi's won and took over the world? Or is this not set after new order?
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>>380035709
Right, but the point I was making was that the Nazis were going around overtly conquering other countries while the Russians seemed content to bully their fellow Slavs. Hell, they got their asses kicked by the Finns before WWII. Nobody would have expected them to become a great power after WWII. It was entirely rational for the rest of the world to consider Communism less of a threat back then.
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>>380027557
>no replies
Libs BTFO
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>>380021175
they clearly shoehorned KKK, angry black lesbians and 'empowered' preggo women in a 'resistance' because 'muh Drumf' and BLM
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>>380033454
almonds activated. lefties btfo!
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>>380022480
Already seen all 3 of those concepts in other games especially the super suit which has been done to death
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>>380036271
Is there any evidence the Nazis hated the KKK aside from that one picture? Considering the fact that KKK bot has a Star of David loincloth (the Klan fucking hated Jews), I get the feeling the Nazis didn't actually hate the KKK as much as they just tossed together a bunch of American stereotypes without knowing what any of them meant.
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>>380034206
stop arguing with plebbitors. one (you) is like 100 upboats to them
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>>380036336
>KKK
It's the 60's.
>angry black lesbian
Why not?
>empowered preggo woman
Thanks for telling us you didn't play the first game. Now fuck off to your containment oven.
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>>380021175
it hurt our feelings
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>>380022634
Stop being a tard. You also believe Nazis wanted to exterminate all people who did not have blonde hair and blue eyes - even though every picture you see of nazis shows diverse genetics within the ranks. Hitler himself (not even German) and his entire cabinet, totally blonde hair and blue eyes.

>muh comically, ludicrously ebul nazi narrative
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>>380035867
>How could your underdeveloped mind ever come up with that kind of conclusion?

Because he's an American teenager.
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>>380036865
High fructose corn syrup was a mistake.
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>>380035982
I know, right? I hate those problematic assholes. It's like, why can't you just agree with everything I say instead of having your own opinion? I mean, some of these pricks even voted for Trump. What's that about? #notmypresident
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>>380029936
So you agree with him you fucking idiot. Only reason he brought it up was due to the subject.
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>>380037059
>you will never be this dumb
at this point I believe 90% of "humans" are devoid of real thought and free will, they just barely stay lucid during their "days" and regurgitate things the other 10% stuffs inside their heads all day.
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>>380029436
France has always been an irrelevant white flag bearing pussy ever since Napoleon died.
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>>380035659
>communism means everyone should be treated equally. (so if your communist government is oppressive like...all of them sans china, then everybody's getting treated like shit)
>Nazism is that one group gets to be treated like people while everyone else is treated like shit, if they're allowed to exist at all. destined to collapse in on itself because everything, literally all of it, is fundamentally retarded. As one would expect from the political ideal that is literally "Thinking in simple shapes and colors over critical thinking."
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>>380021175
Personally I feel like it's pandering to the "pc crowd", whom I can't stand.

But it's wolfenstein, so it's not like they're gonna let you play as a Nazi or something even remotely edgy.
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>>380030425
>you don't even know what nazis have done to my country
Obviously not enough considering slavshits still exist
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>>380035896
No you aren't, stop LARPing you neet subhuman.
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>>380021175
the /pol/ invaders don't like seeing Nazis get killed.
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>>380037303
Nice comeback. I like how you proved your claim by saying "LOL U R DUMB NAZI".
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>>380036641
>Hitler himself (not even German)

Austrians considered themselves German, that's why Hitler was so obsessed with that Anschluss stuff.

>Nazis wanted to exterminate all people who did not have blonde hair and blue eyes

Where did he say that? The KKK didn't even have anything to do with blond hair and blue eyes, they just hated kikes and niggers (and Catholics).
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>>380037487
>it sucks
>because it's dumb
> As one would expect from the political ideal that is literally "Thinking in simple shapes and colors over critical thinking."

laffin
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>>380037587
dude, as an american you shouldn't use the phrase slavshit, when you are at least 10% nigger with some mexican and native mixed with a bunch european ethnicities (it's a statistical impossibility otherwise at this point, one of your ancestors fucked a nigger and kept the kid alive)

Americans are the definition of "mutt"
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Edgy kids that are so annoyed with sjws and the left in general that they spend their time larping online as nazis and white nationalists
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>>380037717
See? look at this person. Doesn't seem like they even know whats going on, just do things without any real thought.
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>>380037797
I may be a mutt but I'm still more civilized than a vodkanigger that can't go more than a week without starting a petty little war with the country next to him
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>>380038043
your society lasted 300 years and now it's falling apart already, you are about as civilized as Africa
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>>380025761
>germany will cease to exist in your lifetime
Good, it was never meant to be anyway.


Daily reminder that the treaty of Versailles wasn't harsh enough. The only way to ensure world peace is to completely balkanize Germany and never ever ensure that they form Germany again.

Uniting Western and Eastern Germany was another such mistake.
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I'm personally pissed of by it because they remove all the swastikas and put in some stupid G symbol instead.
Whats the fucking point?!
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>>380027783
>/V/
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>>380034596
More like 5-10% and most of Lend Lease came in 1944, when war was already not about the victory but about claiming european clay, that's literally the only reason why US came to "help". Clay is also the reason why US dropped the nukes on Japan, it was just a message for USSR to stay away from Japs.
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>>380038248
Because of the German market.
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>>380038298
>it was just a message for USSR to stay away from Japs.
Where the fuck did this meme start?
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>>380038223
EUROPE UNITED AROUND GERMAN HATE
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>>380037510

What's pandering about it besides the new black character?
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>>380037849
>all the way to the white house.
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>tfw you're looking forward to playing a fun video game where you shoot people with cool guns
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>>380038223
>Germany forms """"""""""""""empire"""""""""""""
>owns a single desert in southern africa
>YES WE ARE SUPERIOR!!!! OUR """"""""""""EMPIRE""""""""""""""" IS THE BEST!!!

German nationalism was a mistake.
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>>380036506
The nazis were against cruelty. Yes they killed tons of people but they tried them to be the most quickly and painless as possible. If a german guard is a concentration camp were seeing torturing the prisoners he was severy punished by his superiors.

SInce KKK murder method is beating up people in the streets the nazis would hardly accept them.
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>>380038276
I really like that image fellow /v/ poster
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>>380038150
Yep America sure is falling apart. There's so many abandoned buildings and everyone is dirt poor and can't afford anything and the suicide rates are sky high because of how low our quality of life is and our AIDS rate is skyrocketing. Oh wait I just described Slavland.
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>>380038438
U wot?
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>>380021175
Because /v/ is browsed by the same early-teens who browse /pol/
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>>380038747
>If a german guard is a concentration camp were seeing torturing the prisoners he was severy punished by his superiors.

Citation? And how often did this happen?
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>>380038337
Fucking nazis, always ruining our fun.
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>>380037742
i think he's going off the propaganda we're still taught in school about nazis, when nazis are introduced in history class, everyone without blonde hair and blue eyes is told to raise their hands, then the teacher says hitler would have you exterminated
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>>380027783
>/V/
t. Someone who found 4chan because of GG
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>>380039041
6,000,000 times.
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>>380021175
/v/ is pissed about every game.
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>>380038747
Bullshit, there was not a single case of that recorded and many cases of guards being moved by their request with no punishment are recorded.
You're literally pulling "history" out of your ass.
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>>380039253
Maybe some schools do that, but mine didn't. We just learned about how the Nazis hated Jews.
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>>380021175
How many of these Right Wing, KKK, American Nazi killing games were there before the past election?
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>>380033689
>Indeed, that was an apt and true reply which was given to Alexander the Great by a pirate who had been seized. For when that king had asked the man what he meant by keeping hostile possession of the sea, he answered with bold pride, "What do you mean by seizing the whole earth; because I do it with a petty ship, I am called a robber, while you who does it with a great fleet are styled emperor".

Always interesting how so many alt-righters and /pol/ goons default to 'might makes right' once they're backed into a corner. Every fanatic believes his violence is just, and not merely a refuge for their incompetence.
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>>380030058
>implying I buy games
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>>380027084
>>380027135
Actually falling for nazi propaganda LMFAO
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>>380035659
Nazis hated communists, even more than jews.
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>Nazis in stereotypical 1950's America
What stupid shit is this?
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>>380039441
Did you also learn that WW2 had nothing to do with 'da joos'?
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>>380038383
Well it's a speculation, USA might as well just wanted to test their new toys and finish war faster, but USSR declared war on Japan, cornered Jap army in China and had plans to invade Japan Islands.
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>>380028849
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>>380024683
t. neo-/v/
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>can't find the bodies because of cremation
>kikes say not all auschwitz prisoners were cremated
>illegal to do scientific tests on auschwitz
>all we have is witness testimony (the weakest form of evidence)
>sonderkommando would take a bodies out of the unventilated gas chamber, with a wooden non-air tight door up a wooden lift to the crematoria where they would stick 5 bodies at once to burn in 20 minutes to get the official statistic
How does anybody believe this shit? those communist were really bad at propaganda.
>b-b-b-but muh piles of bodies it's not like Germany was literally falling apart at the end of the war.
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>>380038248
THIS, HOW CAN YOU MAKE A NAZI GAME WITHOUT SWASTIKAS
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>>380022634
The KKK was against anyone who was not white and protestant. Nazis were catholic.
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>>380027557
Propaganda =/= actual dislike for the KKK. This propaganda was effective at paiting the US as the bad guys, and not many German civilians knew about the holocaust until after the war ended.
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>>380035440
come on now, the end of the third reich was a combination of German rigidity with the inability to improvise combined with them fighting too many fronts. every nation and private citizen that fought the nazis is what ultimately beat them, even the french.
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>>380021175
TIME TO BASH THE BASH WITH MY ETHNIC DIVERSE KOMRADES
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>>380040465
The truth about the 'camps' is that due to the Allies inhumane destruction and the attrition they applied to civilians, the camps where detainees were held were understaffed and starved. The allies were indirectly, and ultimately responsible for the conditions of all the camps discovered post-war, and then later used as propaganda in future generations - with the revisionist dogma, to imply "this is why we fought".
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only poltards are
they are retards liking dictatorships and hating freedom
they unironically think they can live in peace like in the trailer
its never going to happen
theyre just shit humans
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Because it's propaganda, the good guys lost the war
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>>380021175
Not /v/, /pol/.
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>Hitler is bad because... um... he was a dictator and he killed people!
>Stalin? lol who's that guy? Communists are such good guys! They are totally not dictators!

The state of modern humanity is sad.
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>>380040960
whats wrong with propaganda if its right?
do you want to drop freedom and move back to dictatorships and wars? for real?
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>>380040932
>poltards hate freedom
>yet are strongly opposed to anti-free-speech movements, the European union who strips countries of their sovereignity, and strongly oppose any kind of internet-related regulations
>SJW are 98% white betas with self destructive white guilt who treat other races like childrens who need to be taken care of
>pol is actually ethnic diverse
Your comment really made me think, hmmm
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>>380040660
B-BUT THE HOLOCAUST DIDN'T EXIST
MUH FEELINGS
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>>380040932
Communism is a dictatorship, I know you were taught otherwise, but communism is a dictatorship agains freedom.
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>>380041328
It's a cycle. Neonazis are beyond their time.
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>>380041362
you don't live in anything remotely even close to resembling a free society you cretin
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>>380041362

>Propaganda.
>Right.

Then why do you need propaganda? If something is right, then it is absolutely correct, and you don't need to constantly tell people.
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>>380041592
no but we are progressing towards it
unless you want us to stop and move backwards
wait u do
u voted for trump
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>>380041328
People hate Stalin too tho.
Pol pot and Mao are the ones forgotten.
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>>380031084
just checked it, they don't even seem to care.
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>>380038747
Then explain why Dr Mengele was never penalised for his 'experiments' (in the loosest sense of the word) during his career in Auschwitz/Birkenau. And by the way, beating up people in the streets is EXACTLY what the Sturm Abteilung (the Nazi Party's private army before the SS) did, especially to Communists.

If a particular group is degraded to a subhuman level, people will treat them as such regardless of direct orders; thus, I highly doubt wanton cruelty against Jews was ever prohibited or even discouraged by the regime. Do you kill vermin just because health authorities tell you to do so?
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>>380041683
pol people are retarded so they need reminders from time to time
sometimes they remind themselves
by voting trump and it backfiring on them hard
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>>380041714
>we are progressing
LOL!
You were born in probably the most fucked up time regarding western civilizations.
Enjoy your cultural marxism (Marx was against democracy btw)
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>>380041881
you need to be 18 to post here.
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>>380041720
People don't even know who Stalin was, or that communism is a dictatorship.
Modern humans think communism is all about accepting LGTB and minorities. This is how fucked up we are.
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>>380041881

it didn't backfire. Another murdering, raping Clinton wasn't elected; it was a splendid victory for the American people.
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>>380025761
>germany will cease to exist in your lifetime
Its another muricans projecting episode
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>>380041848
Mengele's experiments were for the greater good and were made with as many humanity they could.
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>>380042047
im 20
>>380041943
we are just not in the direction we should be imo but the people choose that
i dont like lib shit like the many gender stuff but im still for democracy
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why is no one mentioning that BJ is wearing yellow and black

Is he secretly /ourguy/?
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>>380028849
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>>380042089
>People don't even know who Stalin was
Who are you quoting?
>>380042089
>communism is a dictatorship
Dictatorship of proletariat. Literally in definition.
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>>380042157
you didn't have 2 options
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>>380042317
>i dont like lib shit like the many gender stuff but im still for democracy
You don't know what democracy is. Keep wearing those Che Guevara t-shirts though!
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>>380041428
They only support freedom of speech for speech they like. They get super offended when people say things or make media they don't like and wish they had powers to take away other people's freedom of speech. They claim to be for freedom yet are offended when people take that freedom to make radically different choices that they would have made. They constantly make fun of people's appearances.
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>>380042089
>People don't even know who Stalin was
Do you have a single source to back that up?
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>>380041328
Actually Stalin was persecuting jews too and I believe that's why there is so much anti-Stalin rhetoric.
STALIN PERSONALLY KILLED 60 GORILLION RUSSKIS.
>>380042089
Kek, communism was more about conservative values, no gays or degeneracy(outside of this cancer ideology) was allowed.
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>>380042415
>Dictatorship of proletariat. Literally in definition.
You commie son of a bitch, you know FULL WELL that communism is a dictatorship and that it's all military-based, and that they would execute anyone who doesn't agree with the regime.
You fucking fascist.

you probably are against Nazi germany but you praise worse devils like Stalin.
Your generation was a mistake.
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>>380042534
I'm not sure if that's is a man or a woman.
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>>380042534
I dont even know who that is
and i dont want democracy just choose it out of the horribly failed systems used in the past
we should come up with a better one for no wars freedom peace and if u got a problem with skin color then move out and go to some white only city
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>>380042415
>proletariat
Why did Stalin kill all these "proletariat" though?
Also, it's still a dictatorship. You defend a dictatorship, end of the discussion.
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>>380040780

holy fuck is that bubbles on the right? That's fucked.
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>>380040713
> German rigidity with the inability to improvise combined with them fighting too many fronts
?
It was the failure of Operation Barbarossa that marked the downfall of the third reich, When Hitler invaded the Soviet union and was halted at Stalingrad, a big chunk of Wehrmach troops were stuck deep in Soviet territory in a war of atrition, that swallowed millions of troops and resources. Hitler even said in private conversations that he never anticipated the Soviets to put up that much of a fight.
It was the soviets that turned the tide of the war, its pretty clear.
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>>380027557
At least post a proper version.
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>>380042868
>doesn't know who Che Guevara is
Pay attention in class, kiddo.
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>>380042726
Just because I know some things about communism doesn't mean I'm for it. I live in a post-Soviet country, and I don't want it back.
But let me clear this misunderstanding point by point.

>People don't even know who Stalin was
That's a bold statement to say.
>, or that communism is a dictatorship
As I said, it's in definition. Not kind of "dictatorship" you implied, but still one.
>Modern humans think communism is all about accepting LGTB and minorities
Literally who. Give me studies that show this is the case.

It just seems to me you are assuming things and then being backblasted by your own imagination.
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>>380043232
>class
sorry i dont study /pol/
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>>380042946
Many historians and analysts have come to the conclusion that Germany would've eventually lost anyway, or at least get stopped far short of their goal. They simply did not have the resources and manpower to continue the war, which explains why they came up with increasingly ludicrous yet impractical weapons and vehicles.
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What if in next game USSR and Nazi declare alliance and BJ should kill both communists and nazi at the same time?
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>>380042946
Based Japan released a game where you take the role of a SS general during the Barbarossa operation.
This game would be impossible in the fucked up western world that fellates fascism and dictatorship like Communism.
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>>380021175
>white utopia
>destroy because white people are evil

It helps not to insult your main demographic too much.
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>>380043257
>Not kind of "dictatorship" you implied, but still one.
There's 2 kind of dictatorships: Dictatorships, and not dictatorships.
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>>380040465
Yeah pretty strange how holocaust denial is actaully punsihable in some countries. Makes you think.
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>>380043315
How about a history class, then?
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>>380043685
im not in hs
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>>380043424
Also — Operation Europe path to victory 1939-1945 in which you can play as both Axis and Allies.
Loved that game as a kid.
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>>380043765
They don't teach history in middle school anymore?
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Game looks fun. I liked the first. If my PC weren't so shit i'd buy it day one.
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Because I don't want to side with kikes, communists, and niggers.
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All the Nazi stuff doesn't bother or surprise me, it's Wolfenstein.
But what made me tap out was the sassy black woman and the KKK.
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Why no talk about Metro Exodus?
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>>380022050
>doesn't know 1/3 of Texans have polish heritage.
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>>380034596
Frankly we had the same propaganda here in Russia, especially in the 90's.
Now it funny, looking back.
But it's also sad knowing that many people still believe this.
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I've seen more posts asking why /v/ is upset than actual posts by people who are upset.
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>>380021175
It has always confused me how in video games they glorify killing random nazi soldiers and not focused more on officers or higher ups.

Most people in the german army were conscripts who had never fought anyone or did anything wrong. Near the end of the war they were drafting 14 year olds and 60 year olds to fight. The idea of brutally killing some 14 year old who had a gun shoved into his chest doesn't really sit right with me. I'm not some /pol/ national socialist, but I genuinely feel bad for the average german solider. They had to fight an unwinnable war because their insane commanders told them where to go and who to fight and they'd be shot if they disobeyed.

>Hey Hans, I know you're 16 but go march in the frozen wasteland of Russia, where if the Russians don't kill you, the frostebite will

It seems to be like video games and movies miss opportunities to tell interesting stories by making every single german of that era some faceless nazi to be slaughtered. The idea of a bunch of starving, poor, worn out kids and old men being lead to their deaths by some pretty fucked up people is really emotionally compelling. Instead it's wasted.

In these games they even seem to go out of their way to kill people who are literally just doing their job and have no interaction with combat. Some random mechanic who is fixing pipes, or a deliveryman, or a chef.

This doesn't just apply to Wolfenstein though. This is every WW2 game.

My favorite is when soviets are depicted as good guys, when they were objectively worse than the Nazis. The Nazis and Russians were pretty bad dudes
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>>380032282
>Implying America didn't save Europe from the Soviets

America was objectively the good guy of WW2.

>Put down Italy and Japan
>Help to put down Germany
>Put a line in the sand and prevent Stalins massive land grab from enveloping all of Europe

You can thank us later, Yuros.
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>>380042246
I'm not going to dignify such an awful post with a detailed response. Just read through this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_human_experimentation

No, seriously, read it, and I'd advise everyone in this thread to go through it too. If you choose to venerate Nazis, you're choosing to venerate those who carried out these atrocities, and those who authorised them. No amount of what-aboutism and deflection can diminish their depravity.
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>>380043329
>Many historians and analysts have come to the conclusion that Germany would've eventually lost anyway, or at least get stopped far short of their goal.
I do believe its the other way around. Sure, they might've stopped short of their goal, but thats because they wanted to rule the entirety of Europe. The outcome of the war, is a different matter.
>They simply did not have the resources and manpower to continue the war, which explains why they came up with increasingly ludicrous yet impractical weapons and vehicles.
Thats because the eastern front swallowed all of their resources. It accounted for a majority of German deaths. Out of all the Allies, the Soviets killed the most German soldiers, and Even Churchill said: "The Red Army decided the fate of German militarism"
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Cause i thought it was a new fallout game at first since I wasn't paying attention and then I saw nazis.
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>>380044825
Don't worry, when WW3 breaks out, America will be the bad guys.
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>>380044912
>can you please read all this propaganda?
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>>380045141
No it won't. The Muslims will.
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>>380025761

>Trying to paint the shittiest tactician in history as a smart and just man

You're actually lucky the he was as stupid as he was to fight the goliath that was the Soviet Union because if he survived he would have run Germany into the fucking ground.

He was just like the rest of you idiots on /pol/: extremely shortsighted butthurt manchild that didn't care about consequences and blames all his problems on others.
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>>380044912
NAZIS TURNED PEOPLE INTO SOAP AND LAMP SHADES

Do you really believe this garbage? I'm 0% National Socialist (in fact, I hate socialism with a passion) and all this shit is just allied propaganda.
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>>380045141
America has been the bad guys for like 50 years already.
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>>380044825
>Put down Italy and Japan
Italy defeated itself, and Japan was also fighting against China and Russia.
>Help to put down Germany
Help, as in, refuse to fight and help their allies for several years and doing next to nothing in the war? They helped, but thats it. Even Churchill said: "The Red Army decided the fate of German militarism"
> Put a line in the sand and prevent Stalins massive land grab from enveloping all of Europe
After they helped the Soviets by bending over their resources for them, and making them into a worldwide superpower.
America is the bad guy of WWII
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>>380022050
>But siding with communists?
>Fuck off.
This. I'm cool with the Nazi trend it's been like that for a while, it's easy to write. But siding with the commies was fucking bullshit. God I hate how much millennials love communism.
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>>380021175
I don't care much, as long as the game is actually decent, but I hate this "they are all evil, we are all good" shit that the trailer is trying to pass off.
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>>380021175
god do I hate nazis
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>>380044825
>America was objectively the good goy of WW2.
FTFY
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>>380021272
spbp
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Just watched the trailer, looks pretty dope.
>bj now a cripple
>uses the jew armor
>gets a new robot body?
And it takes place in murica now? About half a year after the new order, since lady is pregnant.

Did killing totenkopf do nothing then?
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>>380045563
you have never met a single nazi in your entire life, you limp-wristed sniveling lefty pleb
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>>380025761
I fucked a cute lesbian, does that count?
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>>380045368
>SOAP AND LAMPSHADES
So you didn't read it? That goes for >>380045240
too. The experimental data is there, and is still used for reference in medical studies. All of it happened, as much as everyone would like to wish it isn't.

>I hate socialism
So you don't understand what Nazism is?
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>>380046007
I've met exactly one Nazi, he was overweight and didn't tip.
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>game is a completely made up hypothetical future with mechs, moon bases, brain powered robots
>people get upset about the lack of realism when it comes to the nazis in this world

Are you retarded?
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When I saw the name The New Colossus I thought (and hoped) it would be something like Red Alert or something with you fighting USSR now
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Strawberry milkshake: the official beverage of white ethnonationalism.
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>>380046007
Not that anon, but meeting the average /pol/poster or Stormfronter is close enough. A jackboot in the mind is as good as on the foot.
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>>380021438
mein neger <3
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>>380027783
You clearly haven't been here very long if you have that opinion
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>>380021175
Why is /v/ so full of marketers?
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Which board am i on again?
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>>380045969
Totenkopf was just another cog in the regime. BJ's going to have to aim a lot higher to bring down an empire that big.
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>>380021175

BJ Blackowicz having kids means that the whitest protagonist of all time is born in the darkest future

Commander Keen in Quake when
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>>380046667
I don't often visit McDonalds but when I do, I always take a strawberry milkshake, even in winter.
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>>380046257
Was he black?
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>>380021175
what do you (((meme)))?
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>>380047885
No, skinhead.

I have to admit I don't know if he was a nazi at that very moment but the tattoo looked real and I wasn't gonna fucking ask.
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>>380044653
>insane commanders
In truth nazis were never forced at gun-point to serve, simply because hitler was so well liked after the (then fucked) country almost became a superpower while under his control, fixing poverty and giving a means to live to those who normally couldn't afford it.
Everybody but the top brass trusted his judgement to the end, sadly.
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>$60
>15 hours of gameplay max
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>>380021175
No one is pissed off.
Its artificially created controversy.
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>>380022050
yeah dude the game where nazi's built a moonbase and also summoned a demon to fight you should be more realistic in the portrayal of them
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>>380046860
They're neonazis, not nazis.
It's like calling Protestants Catholics.
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>>380048057
>Its artificially created controversy.
True. But not by the right side.
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>>380032993
it's wolfenstein dude, come on

you're looking in the wrong place for nuanced writing and deep plots
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I'm just glad The New Order came out before they could reference
>blm
>gamergate
>trump
>brexit
>refugees
>le pen
>antifa
>etc
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>>380039451
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ebul nazis
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>>380046596
USSR as enemy would be nice, but I don't think this would fit with the name of this game. Unless you play as nazi soldier against communists hordes.
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>Game is about killing Natzis
>Not a nuanced polititcal commentary
>Just killing Natzis
>Just mindless FPS carnage for dum dums like every other FPS
>Pretty simple for Americans when the plot takes place thousands of miles away

>New game takes place in America
>When hysteria about hate groups is at an all-time high
>People will look at Wolfenstein, of all things, for some biting, meaningful commentary
>Devs might even get an idea that their game is a proper platform for such things

If both people and the devs could keep it focused on "killin' Natzis" we'd be in good shape, but that isnt gonna happen.
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>>380048510
im all for hating nazis but im going to need source on this
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>>380048510
You'd think with all these amazing death devices they supposedly used in the camps that they would use them in the actual war itself.
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>>380049297
They actually do use gas in wars Y'know?
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>>380039451
Well there were dozens of Medal of Honor games, Call of Duty started out in 2003 as a WW2 game about killing Nazis, 2 and 3 were also about killing Nazis. W@W I think was more about killing Japs, but there could have been Nazi killing in there, too. Wolfenstein, back in the '80s all the way up through today is about killing Nazis.

There were tons of them. People like killing Nazis. It's good that there's been a resurgence of games about killing Nazis, maybe it'll help remind wannabe Nazis that people won't tolerate their shit.
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>>380021175
Because we want to play as the good guys
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>>380021175
Well I'm not.
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>>380045292
>/v/ unironically thinks anything from the middle east will have a big role in WW3
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>Anons are literally pissed that a fucking Wolfenstein game lets you kill Nazis.
Jesus Christ you guys what happened
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>>380049204
It's all from testimonies. Believe it or get sent to prison for five years in most western countries, goy!
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>>380049465
But what about those guns that could supposedly penetrate through 12 people's worth of skin or these knife floors? Surely those would have seen use in the war if they actually existed.
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>>380049204
some of these were first hand accounts of jews in camps; interspersed with made up ones to blur the lines between jewish lies and ridiculous keks
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>>380049792
Are you seriously retarded or?
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>>380049730
>i haven't read the thread
unless it gives way to having to fight a soviet re-emergence too, commie propaganda
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SQWB36uKkw
Holocaust was real guys*

*in my mind
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>>380031334
Do you seriously think Wall Street tycoons and right-wing elements of the government wouldn't jump at the chance to become a Vichy regime, especially those who were already sympathisers to begin with (e.g. Henry Ford)?

How bitter would you become if you realised the people running your country decided the American Way was worth less than Deutsche Marks and guns? That despite all their lying protests to the contrary, it DID happen here after all?
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>>380050064
>commie propaganda
Like the other Wolfenstein games right? The game literally uses the "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." How is that propaganda?
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>b-but look at all those picture! they look sick! and there's piles of hair!

Hair was shaved off te prevent typhus spreading via lice, the pictures are very real and sad, but also mostly either typhus victims or starved prisoners. Fun fact: the allies bombed food supplies, causing most of the starvation.
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Because some people have autism and take out their frustration of not being able to pass on their genes in retarded ways, such as bitching about like this.
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>>380050484
*food supply routes, excuse me.
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>>380022050
>I've always been fine with killing Nazis
>Fuck those kike Jew Poles
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>>380021175
because both sides in politics have become annoying as fucking fuck and we can't have fun anymore. I love Trump as much as anyone else but everyone's starting to suck
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>>380042209
It will still exist, it will just be under sharia law.
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>>380034482
This.holy shit 97% of that dumbass board is now filled with spics and Muslims obsessed with euro culture
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>>380033454

This is not how this age libtards think, they think an all white society simply cannot exist, they are like Nazis but in reverse, they consider whites as physically inferior and that they should give all their privileges to the physical superior negroes, basically, make the law of the jungle effective in the modern world.
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>>380050484
>Naww mayne Goebbels dindu nuffin there was a swimming pool and everythang
Why lock Jews up in the first place?
Why testify at all that they even exist when you know it could result in your death?
Why have all that photographic, documented and anecdotal evidence that it indeed happened?
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>>380034035

Constant and non stop anti white propaganda en every game in every movie in every tv series, in every fuckign advertising, ll media is anti.white of course I am triggered, would you get triggered if people made fun of your physical apperance? you think manlets enjoy being called inferior by the liberal crew? I dont think so
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>>380021175
apparently people forgot what wolfenstein is
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>>380049514
American Nazi not actual Nazi was the question.
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>>380051186
Why did the US lock up japs during WW2?
Really activates your almonds.
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Because white people are an oppressed minority and they're upset that their cultural representatives are demonized or some shit.
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>>380051186
>Why lock Jews up in the first place?
Deportation to Israel. Not pretty, but that's not what we're discussing here.

>Why testify at all that they even exist when you know it could result in your death?
Huh? After the liberation it was A okay to shit on muh ebul nazis.

>Why have all that photographic, documented and anecdotal evidence that it indeed happened?
Photographic evidence often contradicts testimonies or straight up doesn't prove anything. Aireal photos made over Auschwitz show no signs of burning bodies, people being gassed etc. despite 'survivors' saying it happened around the clock, huge burning piles of corpses and all.
What do pictures of starved prisoners prove? That the allies destroyed food supply lines? That people died during war?
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>>380021175
It's called "marketing"
>create a bunch of fake outrage threads
>cascade effect triggers a flame war that ensures free publicity
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>>380051453
Why does it matter if they're in Europe or America? Nazis are for killing because they are worthless scum.
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>>380038150
>a third worlder is talking shit about the U.S
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>>380050747
>listening to western "historians"
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>>380052270
Commie fag.
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>>380050774
>I love Drumpf as much as anyone else

Which is to say not at all?
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>>380027783
I'm onto you falseflagger-kun
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Video Games?
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>>380052429
Nazi shitbag.
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>>380021175
/pol/ is mad about this game because we get to kill their ancestors or/and their idols. so they come here to cry about it.
>>380022050
>siding with communists
you mean what the allies did in WW2?
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>>380051186
>Why lock Jews up in the first place?
Why did the American lock up Japanese? They where enemies of the state. Fun fact: Judea declared war on Germany before the war started.
>Why testify at all that they even exist when you know it could result in your death?
Did you ever read about the Nuremberg trials or are you just asking empty questions? Threat of torture or torture, false promise of low sentence. The Nuremberg trials even stated to be political in nature.
>Why have all that photographic, documented and anecdotal evidence that it indeed happened?
Most is out of context, Allied bombing of trains and roads lead to starvation, disease and even direct death of prisoners. Also many photographs where Russians and some where altered. You can find originals and compare.
Oral testimonies are all over the place, and tell of retarded things that are physically not possible. There's a reason no court convicts on oral testimony alone.

Also, the Holocaust is mentioned in the Nuremberg trials. All 5 lines of it. You would think it be a bigger deal.
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Why was there no blue Zyklon staining in the supposed gas chambers, while delousing rooms, where Zyklon B was used to disinfact are full of it?

Why even gas them in the first place? Starving them is way cheaper.

Why use Zyklon B at all? It was used as a pesticide all over Europe during that time (I was shocked to find a canister of Zyklon while cleaning out my grandpa's attic until someone explained it to me), but wasn't practical at all to kill people with. Zyklon pellets needed hot air to give off the zyklon to the air, yet survivors tell us the nazis just threw them in there and minutes later everyone perished. (Zyklon B took tens of hours to kill lice in a heated room, let alone people.)

Why was there Zyklon at camps never used for extermination?
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>>380052608
You wanna do a LARP street battle? I've got tons of craft supplies. We can probably make face mace from Kool-Aid or something.
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>>380051186
>Why lock Jews up in the first place?
Madagascar Plan. It is way cheaper to kill the jews on sight instead of inprison then, feed them and then kill them, you know?
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>>380052835
That sounds kinda fun. I wish I still had my Super Soaker collection
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>>380052739
Why did the 6 million figure appear before Hitler even took power?

How come the death toll of Auschwitz was lowered from 4 million to 1.1 million, but the 6 million figure stayed right where it was?
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>>380051049
This is unironically a lie,ballpoint pen was invented in 1910
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>>380021175

HITLER
DID
NOTHING
WROOOOOOOOOONG
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>>380052739
>I was shocked to find a canister of Zyklon while cleaning out my grandpa's attic
>Oi, grandpa, why do you have Zyklon B?
>Uhh... ahh... do you remember when i told you not to go into the cellar..?
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>>380053310
>/pol/ slideshow time
Oh boy
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>>380053117
hitler was responsible for killing many people in horrifying ways though

if I kill you in a horrifying way am I doing something wrong?
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>>380051682
Fairly sure Jewish women and children weren't directly attacking the Nazis.
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>>380053310
You're aware that the fat guy is a prison guard
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>>380053463
>Oh boy
Feel free to counter. Truth is the child of discussion.
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>>380053539
Jewish women attack anyone within earshot.
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>>380046195
>So you don't understand what Nazism is?
National Socialism?
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>>380053608
>actual Nazi propaganda
>truth
lol
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>>380053656
Just say no.
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>>380052739
>Why was there no blue Zyklon staining in the supposed gas chambers, while delousing rooms, where Zyklon B was used to disinfact are full of it?
(CN-)+(H+)->HCN(g); Same reason why Rasputin survived poisoning by cyanide.

>Why even gas them in the first place? Starving them is way cheaper
Gas is quick and efficient

>yet survivors tell us the nazis just threw them in there and minutes later everyone perished
Surivors of the actual gassings? Gee...

>Zyklon B took tens of hours to kill lice in a heated room, let alone people
Quite the opposite HCN is extremly deadly to men, but lice survive it easier.

>Zyklon pellets needed hot air to give off the zyklon to the air
"The large chamber also had a metal pipe, 25 mm in diameter, fastened to one of the walls above the floor. As in the smaller chamber, the carbon monoxide from a steel cylinder got in through this pipe. In addition, there were two openings in the western wall, through which hot air (120 degrees C) was blown in by a ventilator from a stove placed on the outside of the chamber, which alone killed the victims and, at the same time, intensified the action of Cyclone B, since the lethal effect of the gas increased at a temperature of over 27 degrees C. The other small chamber, on the southern side, had only an opening in the roof to pour in Cyclone B. The massive metal doors to the chambers were air-tight, fastened by two bolts and iron bars."
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>>380053743
>it's literally in the name
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>>380021175
because nazis were objectively correct
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>>380053608
You won't listen to anyone no matter what they say to you, so what's the point? You'll accept the flimsiest of evidence for your point of view but stipulate rigorous proof for your opposition.
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>>380053897
You dense motherfucker, its not the same. Socialism is basically communism. National socialism means that economy/politics have to put the nation first, aka anti-globalism. Its not about free gibs.
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>>380053093
>Why did the 6 million figure appear before Hitler even took power?
What kind of argument is that?

>How come the death toll of Auschwitz was lowered from 4 million to 1.1 million, but the 6 million figure stayed right where it was?
Are you refering to the Soviet plaque at Aushwitz that refered to Slavic victims, but was never acknowledged by western authorities? I hope not, it would mean you are retarded.
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>it's a /pol/ack spams his infographs that are all of his historical knowledge episode
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>>380035440
>wasn't relying on the US at all
99% of their rubber to make their army motorised came from the USA you fucking retard. Russia closed truck factories to spam out more tanks because Americans were giving it to them. If those trucks had never come the Soviets would be walking thousands of miles to reach Berlin.

>>380044557
>we did everything, fuck you guys!
If that's what you want to believe buddy go ahead, but lend lease saved your arse in WW2. That and German stupidity over Stalingrad. If Stalingrad had fallen, you would've capitulated.
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>>380054181
I'm not sure if you're trolling or not here... but Nazi is the shortened version of National Socialism
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>>380053093
>How come the death toll of Auschwitz was lowered from 4 million to 1.1 million, but the 6 million figure stayed right where it was?
How's that school history class working out for you?
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>>380024683
But if begin filtering this shit, there is nothing left at the end of the day. Its the only "discussion" that is still happening on this board.
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>>380054045
I don't know who you think you are talking too, but you replied to one of like 3 posts i made in this thread. I just issued a general statement because you people come loling and rofling without ever answering the critical questions asked by some people here. That's exactly why this topic is still such a debated thing.
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>>380054181
>/pol/ intelligence
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>>380054181
Jesus, that was so American I just gained 20 pounds of pure fat.
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>>380054181
foy
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>>380054181
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>>380054181
>National socialism means that economy/politics have to put the nation first, aka anti-globalism.
That's just plain nationalism/isolationism. But once you do that and add a bit of socialist collectivism, you get national socialism.

It's literally free gibs mixed with isolationism.
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>>380054470
>>380054563
>>380054572
Are you retarded? How about going on fucking Wikipedia for a start? You can even find a statement from Hitler himself explaining WHY National Socialism isn't the same Stalin had.
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>>380054858
Oh you poor fool
>>380054787
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>>380053836
>(CN-)+(H+)->HCN(g); Same reason why Rasputin survived poisoning by cyanide.
I'm a retarded faggot who has no clue what you're talking about

>Gas is quick and efficient
Yes; Zyklon B isn't. I have the calculations for how hot the gas chamber had to be for Zyklon B to kill a single person within the time most people say it took, will look it up in a bit. (It was in the ballpark of 7000 degress celcius.)

>Surivors of the actual gassings? Gee...
There are many supposed survivors who BY MIRCALE escaped or could hold their breath or some shit.

>Quite the opposite HCN is extremly deadly to men, but lice survive it easier.
Haven't looked into this enough, I'll give you this for now.

>"The large chamber (...) and iron bars."
I'd like to see a source on this first of all, or even tell me which camp this was at. 27 degrees celcius would still be way too low for the gas to escape the pellets within the 3-20 minutes we always hear about. Concerning the air tight door, see part 2.
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>>380054559
>because you people come loling and rofling without ever answering the critical questions asked by myself

Lad, when you ask questions like >>380053093, you can't expect anything but laughter. It's like asking "If the Earth is round, why don't I fall from it?".
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>>380054858
Yes, listen to the dictator tell you why he's better than this other dictator
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>>380052659
Funny how this applies to communists as well.
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>>380054819
It was a term coined during the political phase of the NSDAP to attract more people. Nazi Germany didn't give out any fucking Gibs. You had an overly strong emphasis on social issues and support. But it was far away from traditional meaning of socialism.
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>>380053836
>>380054974
Air tight door:
This is why I want to know which camp this was at. Both Auschwitz and the Rheinhart camps all used simple wooden doors which would kill everyone; including the people outside the chamber. auschwitz even has a doorhandle on the inside of the chamber. The tour guides and historians will tell you these are all original.
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>>380054787
>>380054940
WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU TRYING TO SIGNAL HERE? YES IS HAS SOCIALISM IN THE NAME BUT ITS NOT THE SAME FUCKING THING THE SOVIETS HAD.
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>>380053608
And a discussion involves accepting the validity of different points of view. No, you want a circle-jerk, and that's not going to produce any children, literal or figurative. But perhaps I'm expecting too much from people who slept through sex-ed and debate class.
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>>380055354
NOT REAL SOCIALISM™
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>>380021175
Because /v/ is literally as autistic as 11 year olds on twitch chat
This e3 so far was one of the funniest for me, so many edgelords were getting triggered/baiting really gullible fags over the internet
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>>380055354
The argument, oh illiterate one, was that National Socialism was somehow different from Nazism. They are in fact the same thing.
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>>380055579
>Richard Evans, in his magisterial three volume history of Nazi Germany, is quite clear on whether Hitler was a socialist: “…it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth of, socialism.” (The Coming of the Third Reich, Evans, p. 173). Not only was Hitler not a socialist himself, nor a communist, but he actually hated these ideologies and did his utmost to eradicate them
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