DB Fighter Z

>Hopes
PC version
>Expecations
FLC characters ar ein packs not just one character for $2.99
>Fears
it has shit latency and terrible network connection for fighting online

>>379994964
They will balance the character as if it was the anime and it's going to be Goku fest : the game.

>>379994964
Hopes: at least 20-24 characters. The 3ds game had 20, so if that's anything to go off by, I'd like that.

Expectations: actual inputs, no dial a combos. I expect it to be a 5 button fighter. Punch/kick/shoot/charge/fly or maybe even light/medium/heavy/shoot/fly. Something like that.

Fears:
none so far. I just know there's gonna be fags with mics on this game.

>>379995895
PC version is confirmed anon

>>379994964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJkC-fSeO2E

How many of you will put Frieza in your team if this theme plays every time he goes golden?

>>379996283
then my hopes have been met, i have only fears and expectations

>>379994964
are goku's arms a little short to you guys? or is it I'm just used to spring man now?

>>379996384
Why do you hope for a PC version of a fighting game?
Isn't it better on console?

>>379996352
fwahfwahfwahfwah

>>379994964
Hopes
At least 24 characters
Fears
DBS characters and shit gameplay like extreme butoden

>>379996608
Nah I think it's just perspective. He's probably bending his arms if you look at him from the side.

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I really hope Goku deflecting those rapid blasts from Freezer was one big series of parries. Also I want to know more about that "fly" state we saw him in. It didn't look like typical Arcsys airdashing.

>>379996735
yeah but my last console was an xbox 360, so really i just want all my games in one place

>>379994964
So it's like the 3DS one but much prettier

Wait and see for me.

>>379996352
Only if it cuts in at the FREEZA FREEZA FREEZA part.

>>379996805
Arcsys have literally never made a bad fighting game

>>379994964
xenoversue was meh so no high hope.

i just want another budokai game.

I don't give a shit if there are in fight transformations and I hope there are none. However I don't want half the roster taken up by transformation versions of characters.

I want Tien, Roshi, and really any non saiyan.

I want there to be some differences between fighters. Make Monster Zarbon a grappler hero, Napa have super armor or something, ect. DBZ games needs variety with their fighters.

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>>379994964
>Hopes
Super characters kept to a minimum
>Expectations
Good combat and a DB game that will last for some time. Like good ol Budokai 3
>Fears
Huge roster negating above point, or leaving most characters with lackluster/copy pasted movesets.

WHO /triplejobhan/ HERE?

>Hopes
DRAGONBALL YAMCHA
>Expectations
not happening

>>379996825
I dunno, because if it was there his fore arms and bicep wouldn't be so close in size and his hands would be a bit bigger.

>>379996735
>Isn't it better on console?
I take it you aren't playing tekken 7

>>379996735
>Isn't it better on console?
Tell that to Tekken 7's net code

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https://twitter.com/Harada_TEKKEN/status/874087186064228352

>itt: people who don't know arcsys games

>>379997109
>they make transformations supers
>you barely get to use transformation or super saiyan

it's either transformation version or bust

>>379994964
I don't see why anyone would have fears, hopes, or expectations of the game outside of it's roster. It's going to play like Xrd. Outside of its roster, the game is a known quantity

>>379997395
It's absurd seeing people compare this to xenoverse.

>>379994964
Hope- vast story mode, customizable moves, interchangeable outfits, lots of characters to choose from (even from the movies) tons of stages to play on from all the famous scenes, very fluid gameplay

Expectations- only 20 some characters, nothing as fun and fluid as budokai, utter disappointment

Fears- that my expectations are true

>>379997076
xenoverse was only good for the hardcore DBZ fan who had OC dreams. I made mine then made Grey Majin named Donato Steelz.

>>379997465
Because ArcSys games are niche and most of /v/ never touched them.
DB games also cater to people not usually into fighters

I can't believe this, and to some extent Wolfenstein are the ONLY two interesting games coming out.


What a fucking E3 so far

>>379994964
I only wish that DB Fighter would actually be a FIGHTAN GAEM worthy enough to be on tournament and maybe one day would be on the big screen in EVO.

t. tourneyfag

Here's hoping they have Zamasu

>>379997526
and budokai even, it's going to be xrd style gameplay tuned for marvel style assists and team supers.

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Cameo characters

>>379997685
what about anthem and a way out

Has there been any gameplay footage of it released yet, outside of the trailer that just showed snippets of it?

>>379997682
or good game play really

>>379995895
>characters priced $2.99
>in an ASW game

How naive...

>>379997994
Not yet, but there will be a playable beta in some expo this summer; before MVCI

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>>379994964
>Hopes
Good netcode, some 25 characters, no one button DPS, Roman Cancels, Insta Kills, no girl broly, not so much Super stuff

>Expectations
5 button fighter, each striker has 3 moves, i'm guessing is gonna be pretty unbalanced but if it is fun i don't care.

>Fears
Shitty Netcode, overly simple gameplay, enhanced version coming out like 6 months after this, boring roster, trying to be e-sports.

I just want a fun game

>>379997713
If Arcsys don't fuck it up, which I doubt they will, this will be played at Evo in 2018 if it launches early enough

>>379998042
thank you for this

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>DBZ is going to bring shit tons of people into it on name alone
>being made by the most consistent fighting game developers
>hype ass marvel mechanics

I don't think you people realize how big this is going to be. You people looking up to budokai are going to even forget that game existed after you play this.

>>379997773
>and budokai even,
But budokai was the best series ever
How can you even compete with the rosters, story mode, customizable moves

I swear to fooking god, if they include fat buu instead of kid or evil buu, I will shit in the mouth of every arcsys dev

>>379994964
trailer had golden frieza so that allays my fears its gonna be nothing but Z content

My hopes are that since the game is 3v3, they have in-battle fusions, and bring in a bunch of what-if fusions like Yamhan and Buu (Frieza absorbed)

>>379997713
the last thing ASW fucks up is good gameplay. They have really shitty marketing though that's why most haven't heard of their games.

fears:we'll never see a good budokai 3 type of game again

Seriously why won't they make a budokai 4? Whyd they step away from it? The 3d with the 2d look is clearly the best way for db games and the way the story was setup in budokai 3 was pretty good for its time. They need to expand upon that shit.

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>>379998350
By being a good fighting game

>>379998475
The dick in your arse has really twisted your brain

>>379998464
>my fears its gonna be nothing but Z content

Do you honestly expect mercenary tao to fight alongside freeza?

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I just hope we get Kale instead of Broly because of how mad people will get from it.

>>379998365
fat buu is already confirmed

>>379998469
Arcsys make niche as fuck fighting games. Fighter isn't a popular genre in the first place and Arcsys is a small portion of that genre. Even with marketing they wouldn't be much bigger. Games are fucking hard to break into

Sol Badguy hidden really deep in the game as an unlockable character

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>>379994964
>>Hopes?
Goku will fuck Frieza
>>Expectations?
Goku and Frieza sexual tension
>>Fears?
Goku won't fuck Frieza. Oh, yeah also a small roaster.

>>379998475
/thread
Even if it's just the six characters that were shown, this game is what Dragonball Z has needed since its conception.

>>379996352
Reminder that this song is literally the only reason Resurrection of F happened

>>379994964

>>Hopes?
To unlock characters as you progress in the game not as paid DLC
Different costumes/models for characters for example kid Goku, teen Goku and Adult Goku
English voice options because I hate Goku's Jap voice
>>Expectations?
An actual fighting games King of fighters style

>>Fears?
Forced women characters, Pam, Videl and No 18 are fine though

>>379994964
literally nothing can go wrong here, i doubt they'll go for the pay to win route.

maybe my biggest fear is arale, i dont want any of that meme crap in my game, le yamcha dead pose etc.

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Super modes will be X-factor

I never watched super, but what I've seen from webs and screenshots, its nothing but rehashed shit and weird animations and art directions.
>black goku
Also this. I dont know the background of course, but black Goku is literally a low tier fanfiction character.

So what I'm saying here is the less Super this game has, the better.

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http://www.youdubber.com/index.php?video=oBI0MU73nlc&video_start=5&audio=XJ02kti3PVo&audio_start=0

whoops i accidentally made the trailer better

>>379994964
Can I block any shit that comes from Super? I have my own head canon and Super is absolute shit. I prefer to pretend it never existed.

In all seriousness though it looked good. Too bad MVCI couldn't do 3v3. The fucking bastards.

Hopes

Cross play so I can shit on console plebs

Fears

Professional jobber Piccolo gets put in bottom tier

Expectations

Embarrasses MVCI out of relevance

>>379999224
What sucks is he's the scariest villain in the series.
He technically didn't lose.

>>379998042
What are you, gay?!

>>379999330
whoops you accidentally fucked up your post

>>379999224
Goku Black is some asshole that got butthurt that Goku kicked his ass so he used the dragonballs to swap bodies with him

>>379994964
Hopes:
New combo techs with old, Cameo of developers characters>>379997820
like mentioned, secret characters like ssg goku AND vegeta and you HAVE to input a combo that turns him ssjblue.
I like to see some New Super Moves that isnt just combining Kemehamehas, like some slick kung fu shit.
EXPECTATIONS:
For it to run well and for it to play well.
FEARS: story mode, not many characters.

>people picking their other two characters solely on they're assist so they can power up the point character on the other side of the screen.

>>379994964
Goku looks weird as hell in this picture.

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>>379998324

>>379999379
Didn't you hear? Gohan is the new jobber. And Triclops.

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>>379999518
forgot picture

>>379999475
That actually makes it tolerable.
But then again, we had this storyline in the Frieza arc already about, what 20 years ago?

>>379997076
>Xenoverse was meh
>a game by a completely different company(DIMPS) with a completely different focus(OC shit, build a character, collecting, online co-op, 3D maneuvering and showmanship)
>means that DBFighterZ is going to also be meh
>when it's made by a renowned fighting game developer in the same engine as their big name right now with a focus on 2D fighting that will probably be deeper than Budokai's fighting ever was even with 3v3

It'd be cool if it had characters from all dragon ball series including GT, I've always like ssj3 kid goku and the ssj4 forms for goku and vegeta

>>379998324
This. Budokai 3 was my favorite game by a country mile, but this? Oh man, just knowing who's making it just overshadowed all the other recent games combined.

>>379998830
With that logic and DBZ having a bigger audience I bet this would be a great boost for the company to be known outside of Japan. Majority of casuals would buy this game alone due to having DB slap on it.

>>379998324

For those not in the know. You know how people say "I want my favorite anime in a game made by platinum"? Arcsys is that, but for fighting games specifically.

>>379999224
super has its moments

>>379999721
Look at this shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xegnmANoF58

Goku Black is one of the best villains.

>>379994964
>Hopes
Bardock and Pre-fusion Supreme Kai
good sized roster
crossplay
Killing Mahvel
Tournament scene
Good netcode

>Expecrations
Distinct characters
Shitty dlc practices
Streamlining
Launch issues

>Fears
Capcom dickriders still flock to mvc
Community drying up after a few months
No Supreme Kai

>>379999776
still rather just have budokai.

Nothing brings /v/ together like Dragon ball and loli threads

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>>379994964
>Hopes
Caulifla is in and playable. Game covers up to the Tournament of Power
>Expectations
Goes up to Ressurrection of F with the Zamasu and Black saga being DLC.
>Fears
No transforming in the middle of battle and no Semi-Perfect Cell,Imperfect Cell and Super Buu variations.

no tenkaichi, no buy.

>>380000000

>>380000390
Enjoy it while you can. After the game drops it's going to be casuals complaining that the game doesn't have enough gimmicks.

>>380000331
(lol

>>379994964
As long as I get to teleport around the place and dodge people, that's my fetish.

The kind of shit that happens here at 9:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEHbMyoQ9mo

>>380000618
>Aksys game
>Not having enough gimmicks

Capcom vs Costco when?

>>379999501
>story mode
Why the fuck would you hate story mode? Do you hate fun

>>379994964
>all that pummeling and fireball spam

I hope it's not 2d budokai, and I hope those werent auto-combos. I don't mind if it's casual though, arc sys games have too many damn mechanics.

>>380000841
because we know the story.
they just play the entire story we've seen over and over again with every single dragonball z game.

>>380000747
Compared to Budokai, not SFV.

>>380000841
Yo what if they have same ole' same ole' but they give a flair that makes it fresh again.

>>380000618
ASW is known for putting so many single player content in their games. Also the gameplay mechanics alone make their games hard to break for casuals.

>>380000331
>an actual fighting game is being made
>I'd rather have a mediocre fighting game

>>380000976
The good thing about xrd is that it has a great tutorial mode. Tekken and SF dropped the ball on that. When it comes to flaws, Guilty Gear has the least amount this generation.

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>>380000474

>>380001065
they do that every time with each installment. Might as well just go with out the story mode.

>>380000024
totally this
other than a few exceptions they're very good at balancing fighters, guilty gear is a prime example

>>380001179
fuck you nigger. dont talk shit about dudokai.

>hopes
ratio-fighter a la CvS, no more complex than Xrd (I'm pretty casual with fightan games)
>expectations
Xrd with control tweaks to fit DBZ a little better
>fears
None. These guys are king autismos, so it'll be fine.

>>380001295
No, I refuse to accept them making the same mistake as MvC3 did. A story mode will at least give something to do when you don't want to do online.

>>380000331
then go back and play it?
seriously, it's arcsystem doing this which is a golden label of quality and chances are it'll be a much better fighting game competitively and mechanically than budakai, and this is coming from someone who loves the game

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Arcsys just BTFO Bamco. This is absolutely insane.

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>>380001065
>it's another time paradox happening in a alternate universe episode

>>379999776
why does DIMPS have a huge record of shit? how do they even survive?

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no bergamo no buy.

>>380001295
>>380000991
I've lived long enough to see It's cool to hate story mode on /v/
A few years ago no games had story mode anymore, it's all about online shit

I fucking want couch co op and story mode goddammit. I hate the world we live in now

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Anons you are forgetting the most important character of all Dragon Ball..

>>380001527
it will be dead in a few months.

>>380001714
>gohan dies eternally

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I'm excited at how not "arcsys" the gameplay looked. It seems like movement might be a little more complex than run/airdash. Love their games, but the movement always feels way to contained for the amount of crazy mechanics their games otherwise have.

>>379999224
It would be nice to have a few essential super characters like Hit and Beerus at least

>>380001714
>Gohan the cuck
>important character

>>380001714
>over-hyped jobber
>important

it's a tragedy we never got that Gohan harem

>>380001596
Xenoverse sells like hotcakes. That's probably it.

>>380000041
Is that irony? Because it wasnt anything out of the ordinary

>>380001791
but guilty gear is not dead, nor is blazblue

we're talking about an ip that's thousands of times more popular

>>379998663
why not? you could beat up Justice as Bridget in guilty gear

I wonder how steep the learning curve for this game is going to be. I don't typically play fighting games save for the budokai series.

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This better not do that same shit that all their games do.

>arcade release
>6 months later japanese home release
>6 months after that home american release
>2 years later by the time the japanese arcade has gone up 2 versions, PC gets a release

>>379994964
>Hopes?
I just want to smash some nerds with Jiren
>Expectations?
not enough characters
>Fears?
not enough characters

>>380001561
Well one has to make 100 characters while the other one is focusing on 20 character. Really makes you think

>>380002003
>future gohan being a cuck
I assume you haven't watched the series. But I agree main universe gohan is a fucking cuck.

>>380002274
Probably around the same level as the persona fighting game was. Since that was also an external property meant to bring in fighting game casuals.

>>380002274
Aksys games are hard as fuck. I'm sure they'll tone it down for dbfz, but there'll still be a lot to learn

>>380001714
Future gohan plays similar to Baiken

Looks even better than Extreme Butouden did initially, let's hope it doesn't end up being as simple as that.
This might actually be the DBZ fighting game I've dreamed since I was a little kid.

How are people still fucking up arcsys and aksys?

>>380002174
think your average spic DBZ fan is gonna Invests alot of time with this? only a selected few will play this to shill in thier game tornrummens.

>>380001714
Why didn't Piccolo just teach Gohan the arm-make-come-back move

Is it because one-handed protags are the coolest?

>>379994964

>Hopes?
That it kill MvCI and shows EVERYONE that likes fighting games that Capcom is not and has not been the company that dominates fighting games and that they are in fact scamming Japanese jew greedy fucks
>Expectations?
That it turns out so good that it's not even a contest between this and hat shit they call Marvel Infinite
>Fears?
That they fuck up with even more jewy DLC practices and other Capcom-esque scams

>>380001791
>buying multiplayer games when you don't have friends

>>380002518
I haven't played the Persona Arena games, but I hear that they're a lot more beginner friendly. I'm sure it'll be the same with this game.

>>380002715
it was had button combos for universal DPs and a button for autocombos

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>>380002629
>think your average spic DBZ fan is gonna Invests alot of time with this?

Spics love fighting games.

>>380002518
Stop saying Aksys. Do you even know the difference between Aksys Games and Arc System Works? Aksys doesn't make the games Arc System Works does.

>>380002653
Why didn't he teach him the clothes beam?

>>380002446
I just hope there's no autocombo button.
Even knowing its there completely throws off my ability get relaxed in P4:Arena, because all my muscle memory keeps telling me that the easiest way to win will be to abuse it
really throws off my focus

>>380002715
Its a lot easier, no DP notations or half circles, all just quarter circle forwards or backs.

That said, dont mistake the easy execution for a shallow game. Persona 4 Arena is a dirty dirty game with lots of ridiculous high level setups and combo routes.

>>380002161
I thought the little masochistic laugh was hype at the time as did everyone else. The voice acting sold everyone on Goku Black.

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>>380001714
This

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>>380001714
Is Future Gohan the Punished Snake of Dragon Ball?

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>>380001561
Bamco should learn to play their games with mods on

They look a lot better

>>379999148
This is probably correct. Super DBZ had temporary SSJ modes through inputs

I think the Axis Powers make good fighting games, good choice to have them make a good DB game. I hope it's good enough to be a main lineup game at Evo and big FGC majors, just to hear commentators say stuff like "And Buu goes down to Krillin, that's the match!"

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will this game have active online for PC?

>no CaC

DoA.

>>380003031
Why didn't he just Clothes Beam to constrict his enemies so they couldn't move away from his attacks
Why didn't he Clothes Beam himself so much that he didn't even feel his enemy's punches
Why didn't he just beam weighted training gear onto his opponents to slow them down

Why didn't he have a dick
Why didn't he use Dick Beam to give himself a dick

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>>379999501
>cameos
lets waste character slots on non DB characters

>>380003848
The CaC thing has been going badly for Dragonball Z games so nothing is really lost tbqh. Fact is that no company has it in them to make a real What-If story.

>>380004026
anything that won't fit on the disc can be made a day one update. the roster can be a big as they want

>>380004026
Sol Badguy would be hype as fuck for a secret character. Not only is he ASW's flagship protag, he can easily match DBZ characters in Dragon Install mode. The game is asking for it to happen

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>>379994964
>Fears?
there used to be a time where DB game's roster was "bottom of the barrel" and "literally who" tier .

nowadays there are so many fucking characters thanks to super that im scared the representation will not match my expectations.

i want it to feel fresh and modern, like "this is fucking 2017" tier.

i dont like that they used the letter "z" in the title is not really giving me hopes in that regard.

Multiple forms/modes won't be multiple characters because Arcsys doesn't do clone movesets.

DBZ game

battles take place 90% on the ground

Fuck this, where's the new tenkaichi

>>380003181
>>380001561
You know both of them are from Bamco right?

>>380004137
Xenoverse did okay though. Just some quality of life issues like the hair and tails for saiyans.

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>>380003848
>CAC
Single handily the worst thing to happen to Dragonball, second only to the abominations known as Battle of Z and Ultimate Tenkaichi

>>380004586
It's so bad that even sonic is copying it.

>>380004304
>so many characters thanks to Super
Super hasn't really added that many relevant characters

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I wonder how may people in these threads have actually played an fighting game before.
It be some chum is gonna buy this game expecting it to be like all the other ones and get his shit kick in by GG and BB players dustlooping them to death.

I know we probably won't get it but I want characters from Dragon Ball.

Namely Tao

>>380004137
The only game that had good what ifs was Supersonic Warriors on GBA.

>Krillin masters the Spirit Bomb and defeats Cell
>Piccolo asks Porunga to wish back Piccolo Daimao to fuse with him to beat Buu, then seals Super Buu using the Mafuba
>Frieza conquers the earth and gains immortality and Dr. Gero leads a rebel faction to assassinate him

>>380004381
>normal mode goku always
>to even get to ssj3 you have to do some obscure retarded shit in situations that seldomly happen

fuck that

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>>379997378
>use Arcsys' GGXrd game as template
>instead of using Tekken's

>that choppy intro animation

>>380004872
I button smash every fighting game I play and I can have decent fun in it. I even won against my friend that's actually playing properly. Maybe I'll be good if I actually get to know the combo.

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>>380001714
How could I forget the champ anon? I wonder what ArcSys is going to do with him.

>>379994964
33yo frenchfag here.
I grew up with this show.
This is the game I wanted since I was a kid. The quality of the cel-shad, the 3 on 3 thing, the pacing...

Thank you ArcSys.

>>379996384

That depends entirely on stick compatability

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>>380004292
that would actually be pretty hype but if I come to find out that Sol bad guy was put in but my boy Bardock wasn't.

>86 Players Currently In-Game on Steam 2 weeks after release

>>380005276
Those 86 players are going to be having the time of their life with an amazing game.

There's probably going to be about 10-15 characters, since they already showed 6, who else will be in?

Will it have SSB Vegeta? I want to fight for his new home, family, and friends as a blue haired godly being.

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>>380005276
post yfw the game outsells Xenoverse

>>380005048
Let me guess you think shoryuken motions are hard?

Most likely it will cost some sort of meter. Probably something separate from regular super meter. And if they're smart it will be very hard to max out in the first round except in unusual circumstances. But actually activating it won't be hard. Probably just press two buttons at once.

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>>380001623
This but I'll settle for Champa.

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>>380005153
>Maybe I'll be good if I actually get to know the combo.
Go get 'em champ

The thing that will make or break me buying, probably, is just Bardock's inclusion. It's pretty unlikely though.

>>380004872
Add the Marvel refugees who're experienced with filling the screen with shit and having 3 layers of OS on incoming.

That said, I trust ASW with providing a very interactive tutorial and matchup specific guide in-game with FGC terms.

>>380005417
>There's probably going to be about 10-15 characters
The original Xrd had 17, and at that time they were a much, much smaller company with less funding. I'd say this game is going to have more than 20 but less than 30 characters.

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Just need one character

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>>380005153
>I beat my friend who said he was good

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>>379998324
>DBZ is going to bring shit tons of people into it on name alone

People said the same shit about Pokken, and while it never really died in terms of online players or the competitive scene, it sure as fuck did in the public eye and in terms of internet disscusion/viewers/ideos.

Granted, this has an advantage over pokken in that it's not nintendo so FGC people aren't instrically skeptical of it's competitive viability, and Pokken also got screwed over by an Evo showing before the meta even had a foundation, but this is just as likely to exit the public consciousness in terms of casual fans as with Pokken

>>380004676
bills, champa, cabba, frost, hit, toppo, jiren, cauli, kale, black, zamasu.

that alone is an interesting cast that rivals the whole DBZ series.

>>380005626
>Has a nose
>Doesn't fight for her dad

NOT
MARRON

>>380005610
Xrd is also a sequel

>>380005646
This isn't exclusive to a DOA console though.

I hope the cast is at least in the high twenties, and has some picks that aren't the same old shit we always get

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>>380003170
No.Venom actually achieved something without dying.

>>380005729
Xrd -Sign- was a brand new game with entirely new assets on a new engine made from scratch. It was a sequel to a 2D 480p pixelart game.

>>380000331
But this is better.

Budokai was fun, but it pales in comparison to Guilty Gear in terms of raw gameplay.

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>>380005475
DEAD ON ARRIVAL

>>379994964
beta pls

>>380005646
Pokken's thing was it was a game that catered to no one. The Pokefags would rather play their handheld turn based games """"competitively"""" while traditional fighting game fans disliked the Arena fighter approach instead of a 2D SF template or Virtua Fighter/Tekken template.

It was also on a system on its deathbed and demands you have a ridiculous setup to even play locally.

DB is a franchise that's begging to have an actual competitive fighting game built around it, the only hurdle being if its gonna be good or not; but since this ASW, I think it will be OK, balance issues during the first 2 months aside.

>>380005048
all the powerups in guilty gear are just 214214+one button and cost half a meter
all the powerups in BlazBlue are a single button input and consume your burst and no meter

>>380005646
Pokken had a lot of disadvantages. First of all, it was on the Wii U, so its main draw would be to smash players, who all largely stay in smash. Second, with the way the game works, it requires two consoles for one offline setup, so TOs don't want to run it. And more subjectively, the game mechanics glorify the RPS mechanics too much, so at least for me, watching it feels like a string of lucky guesses.
The DBZ game has so much more to work with in terms of consoles, so while it also has the anime audience in the bag, it also easily appeals to regular FGC players, as you can easily see on Twitter anyway. Even smash players are into it, because everyone fuckin loves DBZ.

>>380005983
>60% playerbase drop in December

jesus christ what fucking happened

>>379997229
>Teen
>Great Saiyaman
>Ultimate/Mystic

I have no doubt you'll be able to get all three, either in the base game (We already know Teen, and I'm sure Mystic will be there) or as DLC.

>>380005953
A sequel nonetheless, with about half the characters the previous game had

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>>380005508
>>380001623
>thats not janemba

>>380005953
ye they don't have to come up with new moves or anything besides three characters

>>380005531
Bardock is one of the most popular characters thought, and he was already in the 3ds one.

He's one of the most likely to get added actually.

>>380005983
GG has atleast a dedicated and consistent playerbase since its start. That said, these are going to be the guys who will do the pubstomping when DBFZ releases.

>>380004292
Yeah Sol is absurdly strong in the lore. Isn't he powerful enough to actually destroy the planet or something ridiculous like that if he wanted to with the limiter off?

>>380006185
That's still pretty irrelevant to creating assets.

>>380006206
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Z:_Extreme_But%C5%8Dden

>>380006193
No movie characters is my hope

>>379999025
this sounds like the making of a hilarious anecdote. please enlighten me

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>>380006427

>>380006384
yeah he is. the main issue he has is that to use hi full power he has to let himself fully transform into a gear, and that's a transformation he won't be able to revert from.

>>380006384
One of his feats included breaking through an unbreakable magic barrier by hitting it with the force of a black hole.

And that's while he's out of Dragon Install.

arcsys are the gods of fighting games

marvel infinite is dead as of now

>>380005983

>pc

kek, this will be a ps4 game.

>>380006206
new game new mechanics
new mechanics new balance
new balance new redesign.

Xrd lost the FRC, one of the biggest things about +R and shit loads of other things as well. You can't just dump the characters in there and expect them to work the same. Everyone got the once over.

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>>380006053
>it's a "someone who doesn't know anything about competitive Pokemon calls it a joke" episode
Someone change the channel, it's a rerun.

>>379996805
I hope they have a roster that shits on tenkaichi 3

>>380006567
Which would be a non issue if he's doing it as a non-canon guest character in a Dragon Ball game, of course.

>>380006610
Fucking hell.

>>380006319
Yeah but he's not in Z or Super, really, and that's probably what they'll be focusing on. It's a stretch, if anything he'd probably end up as DLC.

>>380006684
literal 0% chance of this

>>380006507
Toriyama literally just came up with the concept for this movie because just some random day he was listening to this song and he thought how cool would be to bring back Frieza.

biggest fears are that they make the game too casual... but its arcsys... i have faith

i still dont know if i want a 50+ character roster or a more manageable 20-30 character roster. If its a real fighting game then i guess i will be happy with 20-30.

its gonna be hard, i know people are gonna be disappointed just for the sheer fact there are sooooo many characters that will not be in this

i dont think movie, DB or super characters will join.

i am just so happy, this is literally the dragonball game ive begged for forever and its arcsys doing it haha

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>>379994964
strangely enough this is the only game I care off this SJW E3

>>380006891
There's not a chance in hell the roster will go over 30.

>>380006891
they have golden freiza. no way they won't have beerus

>>380006684
No fucking way. Not when they're making each character as detailed as a Guilty Gear one.

It'll be all the most important characters, and a handful of lesser or unexpected ones. I'm sure they'll also fit Broly and maybe Janemba in there, too. We might see a couple GT characters, as well. But it's not even going to come close to the size of Tenkaichi 3.

>>380006891
>i dont think movie, DB or super characters will join.
You're a fucking idiot if you think Beerus won't be in the game

>>380006093
I don't wanna see Super Saiyan transformation last a few seconds because they're supers

>>380006891
Their most casual game persona 4 Arena
has no Shoryuken or Half circle notations.
The reversals are 2 buttons as well. That didn't stop it from being an absolutely broken game with lots of tech.

That said, expect 25 characters on launch.

>>379994964
>Hopes?
multi ost tracks from jap/american dubs
>Expectations?
working ggpo online
>Fears?
I don't want it to be shitty psuedo 60 fps like gg, meaning the movement of the models is slowed down to actual 30. I dropped guilty gear and told everyone to not touch it due to this

>>380006891
idk, Rosé Black at least stands a pretty good chance of getting in. Maybe Zamasu. Beerus likely too. Golden Frieza is already confirmed.

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Attention to detail

>>380007030
dragonball character designs are less detailed to begin with than guilty gear ones. way less belts and floppy hats and shit they have to go over with a fine comb so they bounce convincingly

>>380006053
The thing is, pokken isn't even a fucking arena fighter, it's pretty much just a traditional 2d fighter. The 3d stuff is more of a spefific mechanic on top of the traditional 2d gameplay then an intrsic aspect of the game itself.

>>380006129
>the game mechanics glorify the RPS mechanics too much, so at least for me, watching it feels like a string of lucky guesses.
I don't really agree. The game's tutorial and menu tips do, for sure, but in terms of the actual importance and impact of it on play it's really not any more dominating or centralizing then the typical attack block grab trifecta of any other traditional fighter. And hell, pokken's counters are just a renamed version of SF4's focus attacks, there's even FADC; so it's not even a depature in that way either.

Garchomp as a particular character is sort of very read dependent though since his entire oki game is based around his run stance cancels into his command grab/counters and him doing mixups that way, and a single wall combo from garchomp can do like 1/3 of your health.

>>379997395
this

>>380006797
The title of the game literally says just Dragon Ball, they aren't focusing on the main series alone, in fact most of the recent games even if they focus on Z or Super they feature Bardock and even a couple of GT characters like Xenoverse or Extreme Butoden, and arcsys also worked in the later one too.

Why must it always be DBZ fans that get nice things? Why can't us One Piece fans get something like this too?

Why is 8ing not making a 2v2 One Piece fighting game like TvC with playable giant characters such as Moria and Big Mom that play like Gold Lightan and that Lost Planet robot that can't have tag/assist character?

>>380007195
>no Shoryuken
it's been over a year since I last played it but I could have sworn Yosuke, Max Edgelord, and Elizabeth had shoryukens

>>379994964
>Hopes?
More than 20 characters, even 21 is ok in my book. As long as they have a bunch of joke characters like Mr Satan.
>Expectations?
I expect it to be better than Xenoverse or other recent 3D DB games, which isn't a hard task to begin with.
>Fears?
Super versions of a character get a slot each, that would be terrible, imagine having 6 Goku, 6 Vegeta, 3 Frieza and so on.
Also, expensive DLCs and new version of the game after one year.

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>>380007159
I'm still putting my money on some sort of unique meter mechanic. Probably one where you have to choose to either burn it early on basic modes/forms or wait until it gets really filled up for the good shit. But once it's activated it stays activated. 90% it's a revenge gauge too.

No matter what it is I am almost certain it will be some sort of comeback mechanic.

>>Hopes?
optimized and has a good roster of archetypes
>>Expectations?
good online experience and goodies to earn ala , actual online tourneys like tekken 7
>>Fears?
3v3 is the main and only mode and not able to do 1v1 battles, cause vegeta accepts no help from anyone

>>380007604
Why would I bother with an xbox, I have a PC

>>380007346
I saw this too.
Hype as hell, they also gave him that cutting move he used to make the Cell games stage.

It alwasy pissed me off that Toriyama gave characters seemingly lots moves but the fights always just devolved into beamstruggle shit.
Fucking hack

>>380007604
Literally no one. Fighting games are dead on Xbox.

>>380007518
>Why must it always be DBZ fans that get nice things?

Because Goku is Japan's Mickey Mouse.

arcsys deserve this.... their games are criminally underrated. they cant even do dubs anymore because their games dont sell enough to be worth it. it makes me sick that such a talented fighting game developer is overlooked

but this, they needed something like this. i really hope this will get people to check out guilty gear too now.

check out rev2 just to see how amazing they managed to make a game look like an anime.

>>380007518
Because DBZ has that ever-valuable mass market normie appeal around the world, ensuring the biggest return on investment. OP is popular as shit in Japan, but pretty niche everywhere else, outside of random corners of the internet.

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>>380007159
Goku's character portrait already has the hair. In-game transformation to SS1 is out. It kinda looks like transforming is his pre-fight intro.

My guess is that base forms aren't playable for characters that can transform and they enter the fight powered up already, and transformations to further forms are installs or part of another super.

>>380007518
One Piece got a 2D fighting game too on 3DS (which cross plays with the Dragonball one) developed by the same dev.
So who knows, maybe they'll do a OP fighting game too soon.

Besides Unlimited series and Giant Battle are great.

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>>380007678
>>380007717
you filthy ningens. I'm gonna play this game at 4k, with X enhancement and you can't do anything about this

>>380007656
>3v3 is the main and only mode and not able to do 1v1 battles, cause vegeta accepts no help from anyone

They could always go the skullgirls route and give you the option of choosing less characters for more individual strength. Of course they'll still suck because assists are worth more than extra health and damage.

>>380007585
It doesn't have Shoryuken Notations (623x). They do however have Reversal/DPs by pressing 2 buttons.

>3v3 with ASW's fast-paced gameplay featuring worldwide long beloved super powered characters from a very well-known franchise brand

This is a Marvel vs Capcom game.

>>380007518
One Piece fans are younger than DBZ fans and these kind of games appeal to an older demographic.

I can't imagine reading the whole manga and watching the whole anime to figure out a unique moveset for every character. It must be ridiculously hard.

>>380007839
So is everyone on PC. Enjoy your dead community.

>>380007374
I'm not talking about just the art. I'm talking about the way they play, sound, move, and everything. In Tenkaichi, every characters really more or less plays the same with some specific variations. That's why they have so many characters. It's not that hard to make one in that style of game. But in this style of fighting game, every character is built from scratch, and very different from one another.

>>380007972
Would it be hard when you're a fan? Japanese people love DBZ, mostly fighting game developers because they take inspirations left and right from either DB or JoJo.

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>>380007993
>muh PC
enjoy cheaters

anyway any news about SUPER characters?

>>379997913
Anthem will most likely be another slot machine loot shooter with brain dead bullet sponge enemies.

>>380008192
DB vs Jojo sequel when?

>>380008389
It's a fighting game, what are you going to do, wallhack?

>>380008192
>Japanese people love DBZ

that's a pretty broad generalization but it was huge back in the day and a lot of fighting game makers are probably well familiarized from at least that point in time, especially with all the inspiration fighting games as a whole draw from it

I remember a dev blog about Juri's announcement back in SSF4 where they were talking about the kind of ways someone could channel ki without producing it themselves, citing examples as getting it from some kind of device or augmentation (the way Juri did) or by gathering it from others like a genki dama

>>380008389
>enjoy cheaters
It's a fucking fighting game. There's nothing to cheat with, and no reason to cheat. Besides, if that were a thing to worry about, people would have been cheating in GG or BB on PC already.

>>380008389

I've yet to run into a single cheater in Xrd, SFV, or any of the random low population SNK games I've played.

However...I've run into a lot of Dead or Alive 5 cheaters. so much I quit playing really soon after it released.

>>380008192
I think he means this >>380007346
Recreating a random, unnamed attack that happens in only one panel
He's even doing it against Vegeta in the trailer

>>380008524
>>380008572
macros/hotkeys and lag switching have been a thing in online PC Street Fighter for a good while

>>380008695
That's because the netcode is really poorly made

>>380008524
>>380008572

>unlimited super meter/v trigger
>botters
>unlimited health

I've seen those 3 on USF4 and SFV. If the game is popular it will have hackers.

>>380007518

buy this game and Bandai Namco will let them do a one piece fighting game

seriously im not just saying this because I want OP fans to love both like i do or anything

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>>380008524
well on console you can ban people while you can't a PC
>>380008572
you noob
>>380008662
nobody plays Xrd and SFV

honestly this has been the best thing shown off at E3 so far.

>>380008695
Macros just do combos, they aren't gonna help your dumb ass block better. Lag switching is the only real thing to worry about, but that shit happens on console too, retards play on wifi way more often on console and people will still start up a torrent or some shit to make the connection go terrible when they want it to.

>>380008572
>>380008524
>>380008662
>They don't know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWS3Kq5p77k

The part in the trailer where Vegeta and Goku punch eachother a bunch has me worried. If this game has "guy who mashes hardest wins" mechanics it's ruined

>>380007518
Because one piece is fucking retarded.

I just want Persona 5 Arena

>>380001714
I want Future Gohan and fucking Bardock in this game. Nobody else matters. Fuck everyone else. Also Future Gohan is best Gohan.

>>380008695
>macros/hotkeys

Anyone who can't be arsed to learn a basic BnB won't every be good enough to win even with the most optimized autocombo. Can't combo if you can't open them up

>lag switching
exists everywhere

>>380008929
That's on console

>>380008845
That's called shitty design. Any halfway decent online need to be synched between players. That shit has literally never existed in those games.

>>380008538
Recent TV ratings show DB super is getting high ratings and just took over One Piece

>>380008929
Toolassisted isn't a cheater, he's the final boss

>>380008952
It's probably a Danger Time sort of thing when your attacks clash. That said Danger Time in Xrd is completely bullshit and the game would be tons better off without it.

>>380008864

I find matches when I play so clearly people play them

>>380008929

That...looks like shit. Has literally never happened to me though.

>>380008662
how does one cheat in DOA5?
I mean I play it once in a while and never come across a cheater in both Xbone and PS4, so kinds of cheat have you experienced?

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>>380007346
Naw nigga, I recognize the viper elbow any time.

>>380009081
>Any halfway decent online need to be synched between players.

Literally all netcode is some forum of synchronization. What in the fuck are you talking about?

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Is Arc System Works a better company than Dimps?

>>380009381
yes

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I know there are babbies in this thread that aren't watching SUPER but what are the chances to see Cabba, Kale, all the Hakaishins and more in this game.
I don't care about Cell

please respond, I need answers

>>380009324
Hell yeah

>>380009353
>Literally all netcode is some forum of synchronization

It's more severe in fighting games. Since you can't fake half of the action with client side prediction. If ANYTHING is off in most fighting games the fight will auto disconnect.

>>379994964

Hopes: At least 30 character roster
Expectations: Characters are DLC
Fears: Characters are $5 each

>>380009443
this one specifically?
near zero.
The updated re-release that comes out several months later?
significantly higher.

>>380008695
Macros and hotkeys are barely an issue. If anything, it would probably be worse to use a combo Macro in an Arc Sys game because of how adjustments need to be made depending on distance to opponent and walls. And anyone who uses macros for single moves will probably get shit on anyway because they suck enough to have to use them in the first place.

Lagswitching can be done in any game and any system and it's obvious when someone does it. Just block them or something.

>>380009081
Yeah honestly I just wanted an excuse to post that video.

>>380009238
It's just the one guy who does it, and he got banned. I don't think it's actually a problem for most people playing fighters. I'm certain he's never given out his tools.

>>380009608
>Fears: Characters are $5 each
It's Arcsys, this is guaranteed.

>>380009443
100%. Between Super, the movies, and the Olympics DBZ is on full sellout mode. New characters will be included for sure in the hopes of better sales.

>>380004872
why are noses so fucking beefy in super

>>380009632
>>380009081
>>380008924
guys I'm not the OP of the "enjoy your cheaters" reply, I don't think it's a very big issue, but the replies that tried to make it sound like cheating isn't even something you can do in fighting games are dead wrong

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>>380009623
>>380009740

>>380009697
Actually it's Namco. ArcSys is developing the game, all of the content decisions are not up to them.

>>380007937
But better

>>379996805
>24
You'll be lucky to break into double digits

>>380009291

>so what kinds of cheat have you experienced

They'd just sit there and everything I did I'd get counter-grabbed until 0HP

People need to understand that current Super character won't likely be in the release game. If this really does come out early 2018, they must have in development before the current Super arc.

watching the trailer again, going ssj3 seems to be a super move of SSJ1 Goku.

>Hopes?
It won't be casualized to shit
>Expectations?
GG/BB and other fighters players will pubstomp newcomers trying to have fun
>Fears?
It will kill the game

>>379994964
>Hopes
S-Switch port ;;
I might end up buying a PS4, it's gotten so much shit I want to play at this point.

>>380009794
Anything actually worth doing like messing with health or meter is literally impossible if the online wasn't designed by chimps, and everything else is pointless/exists everywhere.

>>380007937
This is the actual MvC4.

>>380009081
>That's on console

Toolassisted was on PC.

>>380009381
When it comes to 2D fighting games, they're currently the paragon right now. Not the best example of business models however, but they're learning.

>>380009608
>30 character roster
maybe over the course of 10 years or at the sacrifice of fleshed out characters

>>380009205
It'll probably work the same way it does in Hyper Dimension

>>380006193
underrated character and post

they said the recent blazblue game was the last one for now, right? does that mean the entire Blue Team has been moved to this project?

>>380010035
>if the online wasn't designed by chimps

That's a big if in the modern industry. Why should someone just assume a game won't have terrible netcode. All fighters have pretty bad netcode.

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As amazing as DBFZ is, y'all have to remember when speculating, this game is ASW's 4th foray into Dragon Ball. If you want to know who might make it into this game's roster, y'all should probably remember the rosters of their previous DB games...

Supersonic Warriors:
Goku (Base, Kaioken)
SSJ Goku
SSJ2 Teen Gohan
Ultimate Gohan
Piccolo
Kamiccolo (Base, w/ Kami)
True Piccolo (Base, w/ Demon King Piccolo)
Krillin
Kaioken Krillin (Base, Kaioken)
Vegeta
SSJ Vegeta
Majin Vegeta
SSJ Future Trunks
Ginyu
Frieza
Mecha Frieza
18
Dr. Gero
Perfect Cell
Majin Buu
Super Buu
SSJ3 Gotenks

Supersonic Warriors 2 (not including assists):
Goku (Base, Kaioken)
SSJ Goku (SSJ, SSJ3)
Vegeta
SSJ Vegeta
Majin Vegeta
Teen Gohan (Base, SSJ)
SSJ2 Teen Gohan
Gohan (Base, SSJ, Ultimate)
Piccolo
Krillin (Base, Unlock Potential)
Future Trunks
SSJ Future Trunks (SSJ, Ultra SSJ)
Ginyu (Base, Goku)
Frieza (Final Form, Full Power)
Mecha Frieza
Dr. Gero
Semi-Perfect Cell
Perfect Cell
Gotenks (Base, SSJ)
SSJ3 Gotenks
Majin Buu
Super Buu
Cooler (Final Form, Further Form)
Meta-Cooler
Broly

Extreme Butoden (not including assists):
Goku (Base, Kaioken)
SSJ Goku (SSJ, SSJ3)
SSJG Goku (SSJG, Godly SSJ)
SSJB Goku
Teen Gohan
SSJ2 Teen Gohan
SSJ Gohan
Ultimate Gohan
Vegeta
SSJ Vegeta
SSJ Future Trunks
Piccolo
Krillin
Raditz
Nappa
Ginyu
Frieza
18
Perfect Cell
Majin Buu
Kid Buu
SSJ Gotenks (SSJ, SSJ3)
Beerus
Bardock (Base, SSJ)
Broly

Surely what-if forms like Kaioken Krillin probably wont make it, but there's a good chance a majority of the characters listed above who have been in all 3 previous games will make it into DBFZ.

>>380006648
It's multiplat, it's already confirmed.

>>380010035
I fought an E. Ryu in Ultra once where, after I'd gotten him to considerably low health, the game got laggy to where it didn't even register my inputs, and meanwhile he calmly walked me to the corner and did a (probably macro) optimal axe kick loop

AGAIN I'm not saying this is a significant issue that will apply to much of the experience but dude, stop saying these things don't happen. People said you can't cheat online in fighting games. They are demonstrably wrong.

So let's see, so far we have:

>Goku
>Vegeta
>Gohan
>Frieza
>Cell
>Buu

What definite additions will there be? The obvious ones are:

>Future Trunks
>Piccolo
>Super Saiyan Blue Goku (Golden Frieza is in)

What else?

>>380010317
see
>>380009594

>>379995918
But Kakarott always had help he is nowhere near as good as other fighters.

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>>380010330
>no Zamasu
this game is gonna suck, isn't it

>>380010330
Didn't know they also made SS warriors, now my hype is through the roof.

>People in this thread wanting Budokai 3 style

Do you not understand who's fucking making this game? This shit is going to be actually competitively viable, balanced and probably get sequels. Play the Guilty Gear Xrd demo or some shit and imagine that system with DBZ characters.

The fucking mere thought of doing air combos in an Arc game with fucking Freeza literally makes me diamonds.