Is $499 really that expensive for you guys? Is a $100 increase

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yes, but when the ps5 releases next year, they'll gladly pay $499 for it unironically

>>379987020
What does it do shiller? Play games already on the cheaper console? I'll pass.

When you think quality you think Xbox initial launch systems.

Last year the next step into a new generation

This year yeah its still an xbox one bu-

The next generation, ready to play last generation games!
How do Microsoft memarketers create this sort of magic?

To play HUEG games from 2002?

Yes. Because non of the games they showed looked good in the slightest. Even Metro was just a pre-rendered walking sim.

But you can play your 12 year old XB games ^.-

$650 in Australia
I could buy a PS4 Pro for $500, or just buy a normal PS4 1TB for $300 on the next sale.

>>379987438

Almost like the perceived value of a new console versus a console that people already bought but with a new feature are different... how queer.

>>379987020
'Is it $100 better?' is the question to ask.

If anything I'm leaning more towards the S model for backwards compatibility. There's no reason to pay $500 for 4K Minecraft

>>379987020
Its not a $100 increase, thats literally Microsoft's go to price point on a release now. Compared to sony's better $400 price point its an obvious choice on which one to choose.(mind you I guarantee the pro will be $350 by the time x1x is released)

>>379988905
Not on release day, but soon after, yes. Once those 30+ games are enhanced and xbox backwards compatibility incorporates Jet Set Radio Future, it will be easily worth the $100 extra, not to mention all the extra features besides enhanced games it will have.

>>379989021
they have absolutely no reason to lower it until XBX lowers or they release ps5

>>379987020
>Is a $100 increase really that much?

For dwindling MS exclusives and no Scalebound? Yes.

>>379987020
That's $499 that I refuse to give to micro$oft. Every penny counts.

>>379988940
X model will have backwards compat with OG xbox games too, and it will have enhanced backwards compatibility by rendering at higher resolutions. Also, it will have like 25 or something games in 4K, not minecraft.

>>379987020

Yes, I've never paid more than $300 for a console.

I absolutely refuse to in this day and age for a box that can't have its major hardware components upgraded

I almost always prefer to play on console for anything that isn't multiplayer but I still wouldn't ever pay that much for one. Not worth it

>>379989206
It doesn't sell well so yah making it $350 would swoo more people over easily with the x1x release.

Reminder when you shit on Microsoft threads enough, Salty fags make another.

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>>379989575
>I almost always prefer to play on console for anything that isn't multiplayer

Why? Why can't you just play a game you like with all the benefits of your PC and connect your wireless PS4 controller to your PC's bluetooth dongle? Why does it have to be on console? Are you one of those "it just doesn't feel right" retards with zero argument?

>>379989595
they already know people aren't gonna buy it, again no fucking point

I already have a PS4 Pro and a gaming PC that is more then capable of playing games in native 4K.

If Microsoft actually showed some worthwhile exclusives, then I might have considered it. As-is? I am good for now. Maybe I will get it when it has some heavy discounts (Hell, I bought a Xbone for $130 back a few months ago), but for now I see no point whatsoever. Especially when the few exclusives are coming to PC anyway.

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>>379988841
The Xbox one X is a new console.

Just like the WiiU was a new console.

Yes Microsoft made the same mistake as Nintendo with this one. And it will fuck them in the ass.

>>379989884

I prefer to lay out on the couch and be lazy while playing single player games, also consoles get plenty of single player exclusives thats PC doesn't. It's just simple and convenient

Just pop in a disc/cart and play the games. Simple, easy

PC involves sitting at my desk which isn't fun for single player games. I have a nice chair but I really only use it for multiplayer with friends

I have no preference of platform at the end of the day, its just what I like.

Why is that a problem?

>>379987020
kill yourself shill rat

>>379990202
This, if you have a decent rig there is literally no point in buying it. Its better to put that money somewhere else unless you plan to watch a bunch of 4k blu ray movie

I've already got a gaming PC, so why would I need this?

>>379990681
I agree with every point you just made.

>>379990681
the problem is reddit spacing

>>379990954
You don't.

>>379990965

Again, like my original post said, I have a limit on what I spend on a console. I will only pay so much for convenience.

I also won't play "every" 1p game on console. Plenty of devs like Bethesda don't optimize well for consoles at all, I don't tend to like their games anyways but New Vegas was probably the most time I've ever spent with a single player game on PC

>>379991151

>reddit spacing

I'm old can you explain this new spicy meme to me?

>>379989235
Scalebound looked awful I don't know why everyone is mourning this game?

>>379987020
A used XBox One Slim is 250, which would leave you with 250 dollars for games and you don't need a 4k tv. Or you can take that 500 and upgrade your graphics card and whatever else for your PC. Or you could buy a Switch for 300 and have 200 for games. Or you can buy a PS4 and have plenty of money for games.

This console is clearly being marketed towards people who already have an X-Box one and several games and are likely to trade in their old console to upgrade for less. It is definitely not made with the average person who doesn't have an XBox One. There's no incentive for them to not just go with any of the cheaper gaming options
This isn't XBox expanding, it's XBox trying to just consolidate the market they already have

I was pretty impressed with their recent e3 presentation and I've been holding out for this as it is. Plus , i'd rather drink hot mercury then play games on w10

>>379989296
>posted on Microsoft Windows using Microsoft Intel buss drivers
Lel

>>379992658
you can pirate those "Windows Store" exclusives tho

>>379987020
Keep crying, Aaron. You had your chance and you blew it.

>>379992658
I'd rather drink hot mercury than give money to Microsoft.

>>379987020
There is no point. Most games are on PC and they shoving the backwards compatibility while awesome basically says "hey guys we have no gaems so play old ones!"

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>>379987020
>$499
>didn't even include the Kinect this time
I feel ripped off.

>>379992664
>didn't post on windows

>>379990681
Why not just get a long HDMI cable or a steam link instead of DRM boxes?

>>379992809
>Jump through hoops if you wanna play games on PC.
Yeah, nah. Go kill yourself, faggot.

>>379993794
>Piracy
>Jumping through hoops
Kek, are you fucking 50?
Even my 4 year old nephew pirates shit on his shitty tablet.

>>379987020
$499 for a half-gen upgrade.

PC gaming is now officially cheaper. fuck all this noise

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>>379993902

>>379993794
>He doesn't know how to pirate games
You just download repacks from reputable ones like Fitgirl, install, and play.
How easy is that?

>>379991151
Worse, it's a phone poster.

>>379993902
>>379994415
You're wasting your time. I really don't care.

Shit is still going to be gimped by it's ancient laptop tier CPU.

>>379994696
So you're 50?

>>379989157
>extra features
Such as? Oh yeah.

>smol

>people pay 1000 every year for a new iPhone
>They also pay 1,500 every two years for a new laptop/tablet

>$499 is a lot
Reminder that this board is composed of poor NEETs, and underaged fags that can't even get a job yet. Not saying that paying 1000 for a phone is ok but 499 for something like this is literally nothing. And I don't even like Xbox nor do I want this shit because of nogames, but it's a good deal.

>>379994903
>>people pay 1000 every year for a new iPhone
>>They also pay 1,500 every two years for a new laptop/tablet
Neither of those are true though.

>>379994747
This. Remember all the framerate drops you get in just about every ps4/xbone game? Well, youre gonna get to experience those same drops, just now they'll be in 4k. and all for only $500!

>XboneX was supposed to kill Sony

What happened?

>>379994165
At least with the Switch you get an actual new console and handheld functionality for its 300 price tag.

I feel like X-Box forgot what consoles are supposed to be. They're pretty much meant to be weaker yet cheaper than high end PC gaming machines. If I'm spending more for "the most powerful console ever" than I would to upgrade my PC to play the latest high end games and yet the console is still weaker than said PC, then you've failed because you're trying to compete with PC rather than acommodating for it.

>>379995298
This.

And I can replace the parts in my PC to make it as powerful as the xXboxOneXx for way fucking cheaper.

>>379993086
It's strange, but technically Nintendo is the only one with an actual new gen console. Unless Sony has PS5 up its sleeve

>>379995617
Pretty much. This E3 is for Nintendo to take

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>499USD = 499EUR = £449
hate this fucking shit

>>379995298
Youre making the mistake so many people here do in thinking PC even factors into the buying habits of most consumers. The reality is for most people PC gaming doesn't even cross their mind. When they think video games they think consoles. and when people like with disposable income stroll into Walmart they just buy whatever the top end model at the time happens to be and sit it under their tv

Source: dozens of normie friends who literally do exactly that

>>379995891
after brexit it will be 499 pounds, m8

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>>379996308

That's 700 fucking dollars Canadian. I promised myself I would never pay $600 for a console again after the PS3 launch, but this is even worse then that. I would rather give up gaming, then for it to take over my finances every launch year.

>I prefer to lay out on the couch and be lazy while playing single player games
You can do this on PC too. It's fine if you want to use a console but this is a bullshit excuse.

>also consoles get plenty of single player exclusives thats PC doesn't. It's just simple and convenient
This has nothing to do with your point. I could just say "oh console SUCKS for single player because they don't have kingdom com deliverance, or Endless Space 2"

>Just pop in a disc/cart and play the games. Simple, easy
Just doubleclick the icon and that's it. Simple. Easy. Don't even have to get up to find and insert a disc.

>PC involves sitting at my desk which isn't fun for single player games. I have a nice chair but I really only use it for multiplayer with friends
PC does not involve sitting at a desk if you don't want to. I play games on my couch with my controller wirelessly on my TV using my PC with my Link.

>I have no preference of platform at the end of the day, its just what I like.
This is the only valid excuse you've written so far, though you aren't saying what exactly you like about console that doesn't apply to PC.

>Why is that a problem?
Because you're a huge faggot for lying to yourself as well as spreading misinformation. How about you make a truthful argument like "I'm really fucking lazy and stupid so I can't do any of that" or "I prefer the consoles' online community" or "my router / network setup is trash so Link lags for me" Nope just another "it just doesn't feel right"

>>379987020
one would have to be a moron to fork out 500 bucks for this instead of just waiting for the ps5

>>379987020
Only if I can trade in my current Xbox and get the price down.

Sonyfags paid $599 for a system that didnt have games until its final year.

Xbox fans already own this console and can play every game being released to it. And the people who wanted power already spent $1200 on a PC build to get the 60fps this won't do.

I don't understand who this is for. Just like I didn't get why Sony made a Ps4Pro.

>>379992664
>paying for Windows
What kind of cuck are you?

Ah yes, the kind of cuck who buys an xbone.

>>379996207
I understand that, but I don't think the average normie is going to shell out 499 for X Box One X when there are cheaper gaming options out there. Whether Normie's realize it or not, they are dependent on this non-competitive stance towards PC to keep the price of their stuff down to reasonable limitsfor what console tech offers

The X-Box One X is going to be 499 but if you don't already have an X-Box One or some XBox One games, you might be spending upwards to 600. For people who have an X-Box One to trade in and some games already, it's not a huge deal. But I don't see why anyone who doesn't have an X-Box One already and only has a limited amount of money to invest in a gaming platform would choose to start with X-Box One X. This thing will sell only about as much as the X-Box One has already if it is lucky

It's $500 for a machine with the least amount of exclusives of the trio.

It's $500 for a machine that still has a tablet CPU from 2013 in it.

It's $500 for a machine that will be running games at 4K with pared down settings because it does NOT have a high end GPU capable of running with bells and whistles.

>>379997735
Also most games can't do 60fps on this

>>379997346
He assumed I'm even using windows.

>>379997342
>Sonyfags paid $599 for a system that didnt have games until its final year.
What did he mean by this?

>>379996856
>Just doubleclick the icon and that's it. Simple. Easy. Don't even have to get up to find and insert a disc.
>game crashes within 5 minutes

>"huh, okay, whatever"
>start game again
>game crashes within 5 minutes
>WTF
>look online for solution
>no one seems to have this problem
>look further
>find some 2 years old post that remotely looks like your issue
>"I PM'ed you the fix"
>ffs
>look further
>somehow find fix
>apparently game does not like newest graphics card drivers
>install older version of said drivers
>game starts working flawlessly
>other games stops working / start crashing

say what you want, but with consoles it's simply put disc, wait for the data to be automatically copied to hdd and start a game. It just works™. With PC often you'll have to go through some hoops in order to make it work on your particular hardware and OS combination, especially for older games.

>>379997991
PS Triple son
You have to be over 18 to post on this board.

>>379990215
no it isn't. Its the Xbone with extra bits attached.

>>379997342
They did it at the beginning of a generation, and PS3 did suffer for a good one and a half years till it caught up. But that's the thing, PS3 caught up near the end of its life cycle, Xbone won't achieve the same feat.

>>379997881
Exactly. When graphics cards like the GTX 1080 Ti can't do 4K60 at high+ settings in modern games, everything else is going to see major compromises to even hit 30.

The total TFLOP power of the Xbox One X is 6TFlops. A GTX 1070 alone is 6.5, before you factor in your CPU. And that thing struggles to hit 30 fps @ 4K on most modern games.

So whatever GPU is in the XboneX is less capable than the 1070/1080/1080Ti and will not do 4K as we'd expect.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see framerate drops.

>>379998080
But PS3 had Uncharted in it's first calendar year. MGS4 shortly after. Also RDR.

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Not for me

But if Microsoft really wants to compete with Sony, 499 is too much

Parents will just buy their children a Pro instead, both of them are "4K" in the eyes of ignorant consumers, but one of them is 100 bucks cheaper

>>379993056
Why? Did bill gates rape you as a child are you shit posting from a windows based pc cause if you are.....

>>379998512
Uncharted 1 was garbage. Uncharted 2 was the real start of that movie series.

MGS4 was garbage, so bad that Kojima made another prequel.

RDR is a technical mess on ps3, and came out 4 YEARS after the ps3 was already out.

Try again sonybro

>>379987020
If it has a 2TB SSHD standard, then it is worth the extra $100

>>379997445
Well I was talking more about the average well-off consumer with money to burn. The type who shells out money for meme products like curved tvs and iPhone pluese. Obviously poors aren't going to be interested in this

>>379998852
It's only 1tb and might only be a hdd. They refuse to confirm what type of drive it is.

>>379987020
No, that's why I built a PC.

>>379998512
RDR came out in 2010 & was shit on PS3, why do Sonyfags act like it's exclusive when the port was so garbage R* gave you some free content to say sorry

>>379998319
AMD TFLOPS are different to Nvidia, the Xbox X is around GTX 980 level while Pro is 970

Difference is Sony gimped themselves on the bandwidth side, Microsoft didn't, so it should help MS get to 4K with some compromises, like don't expect Ultra graphics & 60fps

>>379998010
It sounds like you have a toaster for a pc.

If my current xbox dies (fat chance, the controllers are caked in dust) I might consider it for the UHD playback? Presuming it's true UHD, which it probably won't be

>>379998772
>MGS4 was garbage, so bad that Kojima made another prequel.
Thank you finally someone said it.

>>379987020
they paid 599$ for ps3
how is this expensive ?

Next gen console shitting on anything else. PS5 will be 599$ minimum when it comes out. So yeah.

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>>379998772
>it has no games
here's some games
>no those don't count

xbox one has been out for almost 4 years now, and it still doesn't have even close to what PS3 had at this stage in it's life.

i can guarantee 100 dollars of that price tag is due entirely to bluray.
sony has been making a killing in royalties over the format.

>sony won E3 and they have not even shown their suff yet

feels as expected man

>>379998990
The shit CPU + that GPU will never use the 8GB of VRAM it has available to it.

This thing is going to have some definite downsides. Platform holders should recognize that it is far too soon to aim for 4K. It consumes more hardware resources than its worth.

>>379999151
You realize this game came out 3 years into the ps3's lifecycle, and is one of 3 games sonyfags say is good? AND IT WASNT GOOD

This,
Demon Souls
and some shitty rpg they usually pick

You sonyfags can't say Zelda is shit, and then get laughed at by review scores of Horizon, and then turn around and use review scores for shitty games like MGS4.

MGS4 is a 20 hour movies with some broken ass controls mixed in. It's not a fucking video game.

>>379998080
>>379997991
Demon's Souls.

By the way, NEVER EVER.

>>379998010
1. You are either inept at using a PC
2. You have a toaster
3. You are playing some shitty shovelware

Also don't try to act like there's never disc problems or that games never crash on consoles either retard.

>>379999742
The person I'm replying to said the PS3 didn't have games until it's final year. Whether that game came out three years after release or not is completely irrelevant to the current topic.

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>>379987020
I'll get it when the price drops down to about $250 like I have always done. Gotta let retards beta test it first.

>>379987020
No it's not out till November more than enough time to scrounge up $499

>>380000030
I mean to be fair to that guys point, ps3 really didn't start getting games until about 2009-2010ish. And they didn't really hit their stride until the last few years

I regret making this thread

>>379998010
>PC sux because I don't know how to use it

here's a tip, don't download your drivers from totallynotmalware.com and don't click on porn ads.

>>379987020
A gaming system is not worth half a grand.
Thats why when the xbone and ps4 first came out i just got the ps4.
I dont even like console gaming that much, i just got it to say i have one honestly.

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>>379987020
XBOX ONE X BOX 1X BOXONE X

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>yfw dudebros buy it for Terry Crews

>>379987020
Considering we've got 6 months to save, no it's not. I'm just not convinced it's really as powerful as they claim, I think they're overselling the hardware and I might be better off just getting an One S.

>2017
>he still buys console
top kek why not buy a CRT TV while you're at it so u can get the top experience
>>379998010
Anon if you are so stupid that u can't use a PC you have much bigger problems then what platform to game on

>>379992061
Which market? I know no one that has a xbox anymore.

Even the few that bought the one sold it after while and got a switch or ps. I'm really curious how big their market is. Since I think it's dead in europe.

>>380000986
A what?

>>380000986
Some consoles are worth buying. Just not an xbonex.

>>379987020
>the ps3 wasnt expensive at launch

>>379994903
Maybe rich yuppie kids. They won't be for long if they spend money like that though

>>380000986
I've been considering buying a CRT TV actually. I'm an oldfag though who started with the NES right when Mario and Zelda first came out.

>>379997959
Well, are you?

>>379987020
For a console? With no exclusives? When MS themselves are basically spelling it out in plain English that you should just get a gaming PC and have a vastly superior experience?

You bet your ass it's too much. Not too much to afford, but certainly too much for what it offers.

>>379997342
>Buying a console on release
>ever

>>380001991
Nope

what does it do differently than the old one? Is it just standard hardware update with some [useless gimmick feature]?

>>380001843
i unironically thought about getting a CRT for duck hunt a few years back but ultimately decided against it

>>379987020
It is when the only noteworthy thing announced was backwards compatibility for a console I've owned since launch.

>>379987020
It's not really too expensive on its own but its too much for what it does. If I had never bought an Xbone before today, it would be great. Is what it offers so much greater than what I have now that it's worth dropping another $500? They sure didn't prove that to me today.

>>379987438

If you already have a boner, why would you buy a $500 bonerx

hell, if you already have a PS4 or hell, a PC, why buy a bonerx if it's just the same fucking shit but with more computation power. It plays the same damn games. You got, what, Ryse, Gears 4, and the new halos?

Like, most people who play video games must have, in the four years since the launch of this generation of consoles back in 2013, purchased at least one out of PC, XBONE, or PS4, and if you have any of those, the XBONX is a dubious upgrade.

What is the market niche this is supposed to fill? Children who have just gotten old enough to get their first console? Faggots who absolutely have the latest thing?

>>380002434
Useless gimmick feature

It's actually a REALLY good deal for a higher end PC. The problem is, Id rather just save a bit more so i could get an actual PC instead of a PC wannabe. Now if this thing had more exclusives that would be a different story.

>>379987020
$500 for games I can play on pc.

>>379987020
Please Microsoft don't make Sony fuck so hard.

I wonder where that wojak spamming Xnigger is now.

Probably crying in the corner while tossing himself off.