KINGDOM HEARTS THREAD

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FAQ made by anon yesterday

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>New trailer
>Olympus
>Again

Don't get me wrong - it looks great. But it's like they literally only worked on that one world for the past 3 years.

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/ourheartless/

>>379985267

They're showing off new world trailer in 1 month

How the fuck do I get into this series? I have 1.5+2.5 on ps4 but i sorta stopped giving a shit around agrahbar and stopped entirely after failing on the boss inside the whale multiple times because i fucking suck at this game

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>>379984428
>only for xbox and ps4

>>379985726

you want gameplay tips you mean? More details?

>>379985712
Sure, showing it off. And we've seen a little of Rapunzel's world too.

But the majority of what we've seen of 3 in general has almost exclusively been Olympus.

>>379985726
Literally just keep playing, and play the games in release order. Also,git gud

>>379985726
at this point in time you can't. Go to play anything else

Can we please agree that the music at 0:58 of the new trailer is fucking gorgeous

>>379986559
>0:58

in the subbed one that is.

>>379986559
Absolutely. Nobou is fantasitc, but Yoko still feels underrated, especially when she can make stuff like that.

That said, the attacks in the trailer looked like they lacked "weight". It bothered me a bit.

If forms are tied to key blades does that mean no more key abilities? Also, never played 0.2 so someone explain to me how selecting situation commands works.

>>379984428
every game is a main game whether they're good or not

>>379985726
You've only played KH1? No wonder. It's a 2002 game so it plays like a 2002 game. Keep pushing past, it gets good in a worlds time.

>>379987161
Key abilities? As in, "this one has a longer reach", "this one crits more often", etc.? I don't see how those would go away just because of the transformations.

>>379984428
>First info in years
>Olympus
For fuck sake, show something NEW!

>>379986559
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6ltTZxIzwk
Sounds like the Wave of Darkness version from the concert

>>379988613
First Trailer in years, we had new info every new and then though including BH6

>>379988613
New trailer in a month is going to have a new world, but I share the same pain. I don't even care if all they show is Traverse Town or Twilight Town. Anything different than Olympus again.

Why does Sora's face look much more developed in the gameplay footage than in the cutscene at the end?

>>379989807
Lighting.

>>379990993

I hope they continue to work on it, Sora's face looked great on his ingame model in Kh2. It looks fucked up right now in KH3 closeups.

>>379990993
His position/posture looked odd too

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>>379991875
If 0.2 is anything to go by they'll continue working on it. They're getting there bit by bit.

>>379995732
There isnn't much to discuss until the new trailer comes out, unfortunately.

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It's certainly looking good

>>379996583
The effects were fantastic, but the moves looked like they lacked weight behind them

>>379996583
>masseffect3.png

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>>379991875
Are we really going to pretend that Soras character model in Kh2 looked better than current model? really?

>>379998335
I don't think so, looked exactly like KH2

>>379998335
So like, Kingdom Hearts? I would have it no other way.

>>379984428
Back Cover seems to be quite important to the plot in 3. And KHX(khi) are related to Back Cover right? What was the plot of these two?

>>380001475
Google it, friendo. Kh wiki of black cover has the whole summary of the plot.

>>380001117
>>380001381
Maybe it's my eyes - I haven't played KH in a while. Maybe it was just the lack of a visual and/or sound effect when Sora hit the Heartless. I'm not really sure. It just looked really weird, especially in the part just after he jumped into that big circle of heartless.

>>379984428
They announced this shit 4 fucking years ago how the FUCK is it not done yet?

>>380002061
They announced it before they actually started developing it the madmen

>>380002061
They restarted in 2014 on UE4.

>>380002061
Engine issues and an overworked director.

Everything in the trailer was from the first level, including the same boss that we were shown 3 years ago, so don't expect it for another 3 years at the very least.

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>>379996583

>>380001946
there were sound effects. i'm not worried about that. 0.2 did it good

>>380002061
They just put out an interview where it was admitted that we likely wouldn't see this, or the FF7 remake for three years or so.

It'll be forever.

>>380002542
>reading comprehension

Are you fucking retarded?

>>380002542
>interview
lol at least pretend you know what you're talking about

>>380002542
stop spreading that shit you retard. ff7, kh3, and marvel. kh3 will come next year, remake in 2019, and marvel in 2020 makes the most sense

>>379984428
>BBS is a main game despite Nomura labeling it a spinoff
>calling it an E3 trailer when it wasn't revealed at E3

Shit OP.

>>380001946
This seemed very reminiscent of 2 or DDD to me. I would argue the only game where you could feel the impact was KH1. KH stresses looking cool as fuck, jumping around everywhere, and just all around having fun. A realistic feeling of impact just isn't for the franchise. Even in the bosses it felt like this.

>>380002061
What's worse is according to Nomura just a few months ago they still have worlds they havn't even touched yet.

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>>380002542
stop falling for the clickbaits you fucking retard, they weren't talking specifically for KH3 and FF7 but a bunch of games including unrevealed games.

Pic related, Nier is already released and DQ11 is due next month, by your logic they wont be released until 2020?

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>KH3 has launchers
>FFXV doesn't
How does this happen?

>>380003145
>one is made the type-0 director
>the other is made by the kh2fm director

take a guess

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>>380002807
>BBS
>Not a main game

I'm not sure there's a title in the series besides 1 and 2 that has even close to the weight/importance on the overall plot that BBS has. Maybe DDD, and that only concerns the last third.

So, there's no way it's going to make another appearance at Sony's conference, right?

>>380003614
it'll be the same trailer

>>380003145
Kingdom Hearts has been better than Final Fantasy for almost more than decade now.

>>379985934
Why are you sur-
>The interquels were on nintendo handhelds
...Oh shit...

>>380003145
kh has always made it feel like the attacks had weight to them and the enemies feel it. in ffxv attacks are light and dont phase the enemy mostly, so i cant imagine it having a launcher because the attacks are so light.

>>380003614
If anything they'll probably just play this trailer. Next batch of info is July 15 at D23.

>>380002542
>SE says they have 3 games due 2018 and beyond, all planned to be out by 2020 at most
>They say they plan to release 1 of them every year
>instead of using common sense and deducting that Kh3 will be first in 2018, ff7 for 2019 and the yet to be revealed marvel game for 2020 you go full retard
>"LOL WE WONT GET THE GAMES UNTIL 2020, LMAO THEY STILL IN PREPRODUCTION AND SHIT HAHAHA"

I'm nervous about the combat. I loved the fluidity of 2, as well as being able to see your partners battle along side you at all times. The combat in 3 looks like it's adopting more of BBS, because unless my eyes deceive me, Sora is on his own unless he calls on the help of a partner like a summon.
I also don't like the shotlock commands from BBS, which they showed off more of here again. I guess there was a lot from BBS that I didn't like, so it makes me anxious to see so many elements coming back from it.
Can anyone quell some of these feelings for me?

>>380003145
>>380002278
It looks delicious. I want to play it right now.

>>380003834
>inb4 another sidegame is announced for the Switch at E3

Anyone having trouble seeing the supposedly new cutscene for Days? I can't see it on my end.

>>380004059
you hella blind

>>380003145
No one cares when XV already has vulnerable states on ground anyway.

>>380004059
>not liking shotlock
Literally how

>spells
>reaction commands (?)
>limits
>world based special attacks (?)

It's confirmed, core melee is dead and this will be another BBS style game.

>>380004059
i think the combat looks amazing. and shotlocks are way better and aiming is more fluid and controlled.

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>>380004207
>no one cares

>>380004180
Are the patches out?

>>380004329
reactions commmands are not happening, world based special attacks is the disney rides

>>380004624
You have to get it from the store.

>>380004440
Go back to samefagging you vapid shitposts on gaia.

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/372ZLsncr1Hfh0qrMA1XWw/

>>380004059
Did you not expect as much? KH3 is from Square Enix's Osaka team who are more or less a bunch of inexperienced handheld developers, even if remastering Tokyo's games taught them basic shit (like having hitstun) they still have no grasp of the nuances and deliberate design decisions that went into KH2.

FF7Re is what you should be paying attention to, being from Tokyo team, and there will a trailer at Sony's E3 conference soon.

>>380004326
I'm not a fan of stopping in place mid fight to wiggle a crosshair around a few enemies that I could kill by simply walloping them myself.

There was no point to shotlock.

>>379984658
Did 0.2 retcon the ending of KH1? It didn't change the ending or anything, it literally just showed how the hell Mickey and Riku got there

>>380004404
>>380004326
Shotlocks are garbage, are you people serious? What's fun about abilities that don't require any input? Might as well have a CPU play the game for you.

>>380004908
I wasn't aware that they were made by the other team. That doesn't help much.

>>380004908
They remastered the older games, and they've been working on this one for at the very least 3 years now.

I want to give them the benefit of the doubt. On top of that, I enjoyed the fighting in BBS/DDD so I'm not too worried regardless.

>deliberate designs
Mind explaining? I loved the fighting in 2, but what went into it that made it so good?

>>380005092
Mickey only actually, and even then it was "I dunno how I did it but I did." We just have to assume Riku was cast into the world of darkness after he was possessed.

>>380005169
This man gets it.

>>380005169
nah, they look cool. i like the meteor shield in the trailer. they also do require input by aiming and timing for max damage, like in 0.2

>>380004059
Numbered titles are always going to have SDG. Plus we see Sora and Goofy use a move together.

>>380004326
>Liking Shotlocks
Literally how? There's nothing fun or intuitive about them.

>>380005064
If anything it's just giving you choice in combat, its good for dealing high damage to a single target, but you don't need to use it.

Thats what I like about what the combat looks like, so many ways to go about shit, and it all works.

I really really hope this shit is gonna be 60fps.

>>380004831
>https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/372ZLsncr1Hfh0qrMA1XWw/

i am not even the guy who posted the webm xv-kun, stop being so autistic.

>>380005343
Mickey literally explains that he has to wait for a World to be sucked into the Darkness and follow on through, while Riku presumably rushed on through to the other side of the door to Kingdom Hearts while no one was looking or Corridor'd over there. After all, Terranort opened a corridor there in the conclusion of his fight with Aqua back in BBS, so it may be another way to access the Realm of Darkness.

>>380005439
Yeah, but it looked like a limit. A special case where they worked together. I'm talking about Goofy going off to hit some dudes on his own, without my input. I haven't seen much gameplay of 3, but I thought I saw lifebars of Donald and Goofy in a previous video. I just haven't seen them fighting together like in 1 or 2.

It seems silly to think that they'd change it, but dumber things have happened in this series.

>>380005749
Oh. Wow I have alzheimer's or something.

>xv-kun is so threatened by KH3 he keeps samefagging and shitting on it
>at the same time he defends XV every time someone mentions it or compares it to kh

When are you going to neck yourself?

>>380005862
you still hella blind

>>380005862
The numbered titles are always going to have SDG fighting as a trio.

>>380005862
You can literally see Donald, Goofy and even Hercules' health bars off in the corner and them fighting in the background.

So when people speedrun this, are they going to use the PS4 Pro or Xbox One X to do it?

>>380005897
Please take a leaf out of /vg/'s playbook and just ignore him completely. Do not give him the attention he craves.

>>380005862
>Yeah, but it looked like a limit. A special case where they worked together. I'm talking about Goofy going off to hit some dudes on his own, without my input. I haven't seen much gameplay of 3, but I thought I saw lifebars of Donald and Goofy in a previous video. I just haven't seen them fighting together like in 1 or 2.
>
>It seems silly to think that they'd change it, but dumber things have happened in this series.
>how come they don't focus on goofy's and donald's AI in 2 minute long trailers
gee i dunno anon

I wonder if they'll keep Attraction Flow in? Though if something has to be cut to get the game out in time that's one thing I wouldn't miss too much.

>>380006063
Nobody knows which will run faster/have faster loading times until it comes out.

>>380005897
/u/ has to deal with this shit all the time with ACK. Just ignore and move on

>>380006063
I don't care what Squeenix thinks is okay, but always try to play KH on a sony console. Unless you literally can't.

>>380005496
>playing Birth By Sleep on Proude Mode
>struggling with a boss as Terra
>can't seem to beat them playing how I did in KH1 and 2
>finally use shotlock
>the boss becomes piss-easy

What's the point of having a melee-centric brawler if that's literally the worst choice for him? The game was made for shotlock, unfortunately, there's no way around it.

>>380005389
>they look cool
What about gameplay? It's evident at this point that KH3 will lack the key mechanics of combat that made 2 so engaging and rewarding.

>>380005862
Not gonna lie, very few people are excited to see Donald and Goofy in action so they're not going to be shown off anywhere near to the extent Sora will be. That's literally it.

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>FF7 gets weighty, fluid animations reminiscent of KH2 and polished UI straight from Nomura's A-team
>KH3 gets floaty Sora, ugly UI, shotlocks and no weight behind hits
What the fuck.. what should we do KHbros?

>>380006608
>Maybe 3 trailers in total for a game that's likely not even nearly close to done
>bro, it's trash believe me i played it, my dad works at squeenix

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>>380006750
god I can't wait for FFVIIR

>>380006625
Of course you're gonna swap out Donald for whoever you get in that world because he's got the most annoying attack yell. Goofy's tight though.

>>380006750
Kingdom Hearts is no longer about weightiness, it's about how spectacular Sora's attacks are now. They are literally opposites and that's okay. FF7 is supposed to be heavy and weighty to reflect the "realism".

>>380006750
to be honest that's from some pretty old stuff in 2015, so we don't even know how it looks in motion now, and because FF7 is smaller scale combat it at least makes sense for a character with a sword almost as big as himself to have some weighty, beefy slashes
Sora's always had floatiness and a lack of distinct weight to most of his attacks, and combine that with Osaka team and you have a problem.

>>380006969
Sora's transition between moves in KH2 was seamless. In every Osaka game after you can feel a pause and clunky transition is coming.

>>380006913
People swapped out Donald because he fucking died in three seconds. He's alright in KH1 once you can stack MP gear on him and get upgraded spells, and in 2 his limits are really good.

>>380006750
Shit. I was upset when I heard that they'd be doing a different system, but this is the KH game I've been wanting to play right here.

>>380003145
>
tabata is worthless everyone was expecting kh2 combat

>>380007113
I'm glad that he died for other people too. I thought that maybe I had been handling him wrong until endgame. But he just sucks? Good to know.

>>380006608
Not from what I saw. Everything looks great regarding combat. I've been playing 0.2 and I love how it feels. KH3 is supposed to take after the feeling of 0.2 and it looks worked on. So far it looks even better in comparison to 2. I have no doubt that this game will engage me just like the others. Shotlocks look like they have a lot of variety this time around and they are only one of many options.

>>380006945
Sora's fighting style in 2 was already very 'light', but the point is that the animations were good and melee was the core that the system revolved around with resource-restricted attacks complementing it rather than being a replacement. Everything after 2 has been "don't bother attacking, we made it too inconvenient so just use these autotargeting spells".

>>380005339
> I loved the fighting in 2, but what went into it that made it so good?
In KH2, Crit is kill fast and die fast. The extra abilities serve to increase your options relative to the base game (most importantly with a third Finisher Plus). The game is fairly consistent in that the player can avoid anything so long as they know what they're doing, and can do so in a variety of ways. Using physical attacks is fun, and the mechanics that dictate whether a boss will counter (Revenge) is systematic, logical, and allows for a good deal of optimization. If you want to make something work, you almost always can.

Sora's moveset has a good deal of true variety and very few options are completely useless. Having somewhat high damage floors against enemies means not only does Lv 1 work great, but in a normal Crit run you never have to waste time grinding to overcome something. Applying caps to ATTACK-DEF instead of at the end of the formula means not messing with the relative power of attacks endgame. Conversely, the 1 damage min, on top of FM2 rounding up at the end of the formula and the 25% power boost, means rapidly hitting Limits (Duckflare, Tron's, Skellington's) don't really care about the damage floor and will deal consistently high damage regardless of level while getting a nice boost on Crit (screwing over enemies with lower health totals).

Contrast the handhelds, where moveset balance is shit, most of your attacks are useless, there's tons of crappy nukes, and Shotlocks, Surges and Mines/Balloon ruins everything (so every fight ends up really samey). Bosses don't stagger consistently at all and break out at their leisure assuming your keyblade attack didn't whiff in the first place. Dodging comes down to mashing, so there's not much to learn in actual attack patterns. Whereas Lingering Will is a very calculated back and forth and allows a variety of offensive options, MF is mash square like an idiot then Surge after he attacks.

>>380007595
I'd like to think they're trying to nip that in the bud with the spell cooldowns. Several of the used up spells were unavailable for about 15 seconds or so, an eternity in action RPG-land.

>>380007595
>>380006945
2 also had that really nice reactive combat, where your combo attacks and finishers would activate depending on your surroundings.

Tons of enemies? Sora does a spin and finishes with Explosion or the Magnet Spiral thing.
Enemy far away? Slide Dash over

BBS and DDD didn't have this, all of the flashing stuff became commands that the enemies could easily interrupt.

>>380007595
After 2, melee wasn't worth doing. The flow was completely gutted so you couldn't have a high-damage, high-hitcount combo. Magic hit harder than any melee attack, hit multiple enemies, and if you built your character right, had a stupidly high magic meter so you could just keep spamming more magic.

>>380007831
>>380007926
Interesting.

I'd like to believe at least some of this polish will be in the real game. I still had fun with the Osaka games, however, so I'm not worried.

>>380007926
I mean let's be honest, barely any use to the core attacks combined with an encouragement to build decks with exploitative spells became a dumbed down, streamlined variant of Chain of Memories. You're essentially choosing counter-commands but don't have to worry about reloads, number counters or hand draws.

Now that KH3 is back to select spells, large combos and all, it should theoretically be less problematic. Still not sure what to think of the style commands where you get contextual transformations or superattacks, but now they just need to refine and improve the feel.

>>380007831
KH2 truly was gameplay kino.

>>380008228
The real fun from 2's combat comes from understanding it at a technical level.

>How many hits and how much HP can I drain before this boss drops out of the combo and does and attack

Where as in BBS the bosses generally do not get stunned by your hits and will immediately teleport out of them. The safest way to kill a boss in BBS is to use an attack that does massive area damage while making you invincible as the boss is doing attack animations. Unless the boss is the final boss, where they auto-teleport out of almost every shotlock.

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>>379985509
>tfw ansem doesn't have his sick outfit on anymore
>just a generic org XIII coat

>>380009018
>The real fun from 2's combat comes from understanding it at a technical level.
Your explanations were good, but is there anywhere else I can read about 2's technical side? I'm really interested

>>380001475
All the X games are basically what happened during the Keyblade War, aka the war over the light that Kairi's grandmother mentions way back in KH1. There's still a lot of loose threads though, and the major reveals probably won't happen until III.

>>380002278
Why is it -za? Haven't previous FFs established the convention as -ja?

>>380009113
Gonna miss seeing those abs directly in your face.

>>380009295
Go back and play 2 for a while and you'll start to pick up more of it if you're looking. It's seriously like butter on toast.

Newbie question: why the fuck are you retards excited about going to Hercules again?

>>380009556
I beat II when I was sub 15ish, so almost a decade ago.

I still need to pick up the big PS4 collection, though, so I guess now's a good time.

>>380009580
Out of all the world's you could visit, Hercules was the designated "tournament world" for most of the games. When you got to explore it in 2, it was just the underworld. Now we get to explore Mt. Olympus in all its splendor.

>>380009702
You probably didn't play the Final Mix version then. You're in for a treat.

>>380008398
The less there is for the player to do, the worse it gets. A large part of KH2's design was that it allowed you to dictate what you did and how. No individual ability really did everything at once, and the few that offered combined functionality were more restricted by using Drive or all available MP.

The opposite of this is overpowered spellcasting that offers high damage, tracking and range combined with mobility or invulnerability, that isn't heavily restricted by resource mechanics. You end up using a handful of powerful abilities that do everything at once and as such fit every situation, and require minimal inputs to execute.

>>380009580
because now a big part of the world is actually explorable, not just the arena.

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>>379999325
fuck that looks good

>>380009295
I'm not sure where the information would be, but if you search for KH2 "Revenge Value" you'll probably find some of the info you want.

I find it very strange how great kh2s combat is compared to other ARPGS. I played kh2 on release and didn't touch any other kh game until a month ago with the ps4 re-releases and everything about the combat in that game feels really good. Its shocking how that game is more than 10 years old

>>380011009
It's amazing what happens when you have devs that actually truly care about the end result of a game.

>>380011347
Pre-7th gen was a different era.

>>380011465
So very true. We still get the odd glimpse every now and then though.

>>380011009
>>380011347
Knowledge of KH2's combat will always be the most depressing thing about Versus XIII, because you can imagine how it would have worked, and how fights like Aranea would have been.

CoM is boring trash

>>380012843
Shh! Do not say the words which will awaken an unspeakable evil.

>>380012951
yeah it fucking sucks

>>380009113

no homo but ansem sure was a pretty handsome dude, even more so when he was voiced by based billy zane

>>380012843
You shouldn't have said that, let's hope he is not here anymore

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>>380013045
Do we have a summoning circle for Bazztek now?

>>380013513
Just the mere mention of anything related to "that game" will awaken him.

KH2FM is such a fun game. I really want to replay it, but I'm still on my level 1 run. Data Xemnas and Terra are the only things I have to beat before I'm satisfied.

Are there any other game series that have gameplay similar to KH? Combo-based action RPGs is such a good formula

>>380014503
DMC?

>>380014702
DMC is a full-on action game. Nothing RPG about it

daily reminder for bazztek to kill yourself.

>>380014783
Close enough.

>>380014809
Why do you do this? Why are you trying to ruin a thread?

>>380015176

can't wait to see more bazztek meltdowns on july

>>380015460
Leave that for FFXV threads. Please leave our KH threads alone.

>>380015460
Get the fuck out

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>>380009454
for FF games, yeah. Even for KH games, -ja is the 4th level. The only canon time you see a -za spell in the series is Mickey using Stopza in a cutscene in DDD I would assume the order is now (for example): Fire > Fira > Firaga > Firaja > Firaza.

Even Aqua (whose specialty is magic usage) only had access to -ja spells in 0.2. And since she's much stronger than Sora is, I'm not sure how he can use -za spells.

I guess we'll have to wait and see.

>>380016432
>she's much stronger than Sora is
prove it

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alright, let's get a bit more discussion going
we've seen Second Form that allows you to use KH1 and KH2 moves
the shield form (see webm)
and the twin pistols that transform into a huge cannon
and that drill? from the end of the last trailer

what kinda keyblade transformation/form would you like to see?

>>380016517
duel wield

>>380006525
>playing Proud mode
>not Critical

there's your problem senpai

>>380016517
Someone yesterday mentioned that the shield comes from the Olympus Keyblade, 2nd Form is from the Kingdom Key, and the dual pistols are that other one we saw.

It's possible each keyblade simply has it's own forms.

>>380016432
Wrong. In the Japanese versions of DDD and 0.2, 4th tier spells end in -gun. The localization team fucked up by putting -ja in 0.2 when it was already established to be -za in DDD (which was also used in Zero Graviza)

>>380016474
really? Fucking Riku is stronger than Sora right now, and Aqua would push his shit in.

She's canonically the strongest "light-side" keyblade wielder alive right now. They make note of this multiple times. She was the stronger of the three (Terra, Ven) to begin with, but since she's been in the WoD for 10+ years, she's only gotten better.

>>380016859
>It's possible each keyblade simply has it's own forms.
yeah probably, now which forms/transformation would you like to see?

I'd like a keyblade that transforms into a wand for better spellcasting, maybe something that enchants all regular hits of your combo with elemental properties

>>380016474
Sora is back to Lv1 due to DDD.

Olympus is the 1st world because he's training to be a true Hero.

>>380017210
A magic based transformation would kick ass.

>>380012951
>>380013116
fucking kill yourselves

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>>380017541
>it makes all your spells -za tier

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>>380017658
>it makes all your spells -za tier

>>380017725
>donald also gains -za spells with this
>still doesn't use curaza on you when you need it most

Command Styles or Drive Forms, what's your favorite?

>>380017843
They're basically the same thing. I appreciated them more in BbS because you had no abilities to modify your base combos

>>380017843
I like the versatility of drive forms, but can appreciate the command styles for what they are.

It really depends on how the game is designed around it.

>>380017541
>>380017658
>>380017725
I think I'd like something more like this
>magic based transformation that you get early game
>increases level of spells by one
>when you get it, you're usually casting Fire's with Firara finishers
>transformation changes it to Firara's with Firaga finishers
>only becomes really powerful at endgame when you're regular spells are at -ga and your finishers are at -za
>turns your regular -ga spells into -za and gives even more overpowered finishers like Mega Flare, Deep Freeze etc.

>>380016590
Dude, don't hit the camra.

>>380016474
>>380017005
>>380017250
Adding to this, even if they're roughly equivalent overall, Aqua would still have him beat magically. That's her specialty.

>>380017826
>curaza literally brings you back to life
>if you die with it active, donald will automatically curaza you

>>379984658
>"This is the game where the plot finally goes fully off the rails".

God forbid you finally got character development in this series after a decade....

>>380018274
Plus, she's the last remaining keyblade master (I believe) that was trained from an early age and named one by another keyblade master.

>>380016916
IIRC, they were called -ja back in FFX as well.

>>380012951
That the Osaka team for you.

>>380018771
>com
>osaka
CoM was made by Jupiter you idiot

>>379984428
>The same 50 autists hyping another E3

>>380012951
Fuck you, CoM is great. At least the GBA version is. Haven't played the 3d version.

>>380018771
Nice job outing yourself as a retard.

Haven't really been keeping up with it - Any word on if Star Wars or Marvel are getting into the game yet?

Still holding out for Vader to be the Sephiroth optional boss equivalent of 3.

Also, any news on if there's going to be a Mirage Arena analogue with co-op multiplayer? I've been waiting for something like that on a main console ever since BBS.

>>380019183
the lightsaber effects would look so good in UE4

>>380018537
I think he's talking more about 'Suddenly, everyone is Xehanort.' and the screwed up way the series approaches time travel.

What's the appeal of this series? It's just Mickey and Friends meets weebshit. It's literally deviantart tier.

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>>380016517
I cant imagine what something like Ultima Weapon could become. II bet it'd be OP as fuck though.
>mfw the Fenrir keyblade turns into a motorcycle

>>380019291
There was actually a recent UE4 VR demo with a lightsaber in it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S48T-cOG0ks
at 3:35

>>380019183
No word on any of that.

>>379984428
trying to play bbs right now.
holy shit, why is captain hook to fucking strong?

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>>380019659
I wonder what they'll have it look like this time around.

>>380019912
Captain Hook has been strong in like every KH game he's fought in. It's kinda weird.

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>>379984658
I hate unchained, but after I got illustrated kairi it got easy

All the games have a little something different for the plot

We're almost at the point of getting new plot in the missions soon, it has plot about the key blade war

>>380019912
>>380020116
he's got a killer right hook

>>380020140
>he chose ursus
THAT WAS FOOLISH!

>>380019912
he can be tricky to start, because he actually punishes physical attacks pretty well. Magic fucks his world up though, try that instead. Plus he's weak to Fire I believe.

I recall people pointing out few major issues in the 1.5+2.5 release so decided to put hold off for a while, did they manage to address them?

>>380020367
There's a patch coming soon. Just have to wait and see

So how do keyblade transformation work? Are they like stance switches in dmc? Or are they the new limits? Are they drive forms? I want to be able to switch constantly on the fly like Terra and run over nigs with my hoverbike.

>>379984428
I would argue Chain of Memories is more important than Birth by Sleep, it was a sequel to KH back when it only had one sequel and if you were only ever going to play one other game besides I and II it should be CoM

>>380021059
I would agree with you if 2 was the end of the series. As it is now BBS is the most important as it pretty much sets up Xehanort's true intentions.

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>>380021059
>CoM
>more important than BBS

>>380020869
see
>>380002278

hit shit physically and the form assigned to the keyblade you wield will appear as a situational command (kinda like spellweaver in 0.2)

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I've been catching up on the kindom hearts series in mostly plot order (kh1 > recom > days >kh2) and now I don't know whether I should do re:coded or Birth by sleep first. I know coded is not plot-relevant at all and was released before BBS so I'm inclined to do that one first before starting the arc that BBS starts, but I was wondering if re:coded maybe added some extra content that requires me to know what happened in BBS.

>>380021293
Yeah, anything that started KH's slow lead into III is a clusterfuck, CoM is enjoyable because it's able to tell a streamlined story back when the narrative was simpler and nothing had to be retconned.

>>380021664
BBS literally has the most straight forward plot of all the games

>>380021382
>I know coded is not plot-relevant at all
The events from Castle Oblivion until the end are. So basically the last 1/4 of the game/movie. Do Birth by Sleep first.

>>380021208
who cares about his true intentions? When III is over and Xehanort is dead will you still like BBS more than CoM? The events of CoM the pertain to Namine and the Organization are entirley self contained, as is the altered Sora, you play BBS and it feels like the only reason your supposed to care is because it's supposed to be relevant eventually, I don't care about eventually, I care about the moment, if something isn't good in that moment it isn't good.

>>379984428
Have they fixed the save glitch with KH2 yet,
have they even said anything about it?

>>380021896
Yeah I probably will like it more simply because it's more fun to play and I happen to really enjoy CoM's gameplay.
Your point is ridiculous though. Before 2 CoM was literally a game about setting up a future game exactly like BBS.

>>380022128
There's a patch coming out soon. So maybe?

>>380022283
I hope so, I really wan to replay KH2 but don't want to deal with that shit.

>>380022458
I feel ya. 358/2 Days is getting a new scene as well, plus KH1 is getting a Theatre mode so it'll be a big patch.

>>380022547
the "addition" patches are already out, but they're optional
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/addons/kingdom-hearts-hd-15-25-remix-%E2%80%93-theater/cid=UP0082-CUSA05933_00-KINGDOMHEARTADD0
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/addons/kingdom-hearts-hd-15-25-remix-%E2%80%93-additional-scene/cid=UP0082-CUSA05933_00-KINGDOMHEARTADD1
especially since KH1's theater mode is 10GB because lol prerendered videos instead of in-engine

the "correction" patches are still coming though, let's hope it fixes Xemnas RC's and the save crashes

>>380022547
That'd be great if it did, I got the game just yesterday after finally accepting it won't ever get fixed and stopped waiting.

>>380022850
>optional
That's new.

>>380022850

fuck fingers crossed for them to actually fix the game.

>>380023012
wouldn't wanna force a 10GB "patch" on anyone just for an optional feature like theater mode, very considerate of them

>>380023012
It's just a theatre mode

>>380023096
Good point. Still, it's nice that KH1 finally got it since every other game has one.

>>379984428
>inb4 Tabata comes in to actually get work done in KH3

>>380023671
Get out

>>380022850
>>380023012
>>380023026
>>380023096
>>380023343
looks like the optional content is already on the store but the game itself hasn't been patched yet so it doesn't include the dlc
>>>/vg/179501108

>>380023671
>>>/v/

i've literally been to every moogle shop in DDD but i still haven't gotten the trophy. fucking annoying im trying to platinum every game

>>380023812
Must still be tweaking a few things then. It'll probably come out sometime within the week.

>>380023843
There's obviously one you missed anon. Consider if you died after visiting one and before going through a door. Might not have counted then.

>>380023671
I'd rather wait another decade.

>>380022128
They haven't. In my 60 hour play through where I 100 percented the game I got it once. If you save often you won't lose more than 40 minutes in a playthrough, if that. Not saying that justifies it or taht it shouldn't be fixed but the way I see people on here talk about it they act as if the game is unplayable. Some people make it through the whole game without one instance of the bug, it's really not that bad.

>>380019291
Moreso, just imagine Vader as a KH endgame boss.
>Instead of being a speed battle like Seph or Terra Armour, or just ridiculous high speed like Lingering Vanitas, he's a mighty glacier.
>He just keeps slowly walking towards you the whole time whenever he's not doing a move, advancing slowly but surely, kinda like MX would in BBS, but without the constant teleporting.
>Flinch-resistant against everything but thunder element and combo finishers. Will keep attacking with zero regard for you trying to combo on him.
>Massive damage on melee attacks, less so on the rest of his arsenal, most of which is there just to harass you and get you into melee.
>Keeps force-pulling random debris from the walls and hurling it at you.
>Keeps trying to force-push you off edges forcing you to aerial recovery or die.
>He'll force-pull you towards him to stop you abusing glide.
>Saber throws for long ranged attacks, knock it out of the air with a strike raid or other ranged attack of your own to create a short window where you can get in and wail on him.
>Will stop and telegraph Force Choke with an audio cue ('You don't know the power of the dark side', or something similar.) before using it, so you need to stay fairly close to him to get in and smack him before he can fire it off, similar to Seph's descend heartless angel, but less damaging and with a shorter 'charge-up' time.
>Periodically powers up with an aura of darkside energy and enters a state where he will parry shotlocks with his saber and use a fast lunging/dashing strike to close distance from a few metres out.
>Get him down to 1/3 health, and the armour falls off to reveal Ep.3 Anakin underneath.
>Turns out the KH version of him isn't crippled and it's actually just armour, not a life-support suit.
>Same moveset, but gets much faster without the armour, and starts using Force Lightning and leaping/somersaulting moves thrown into his melee combos.

Old PS2 KH player and later bought the HD collection for Ps3
Sadly my Ps3 died during the middle of KH1
Best way to play it all on computer? Emulation right? Is everything working?

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>>380020182
Made me smile

>>380020116
he's a cakewalk in re:com, otherwise I agree

>>380023843
10 seconds on Google mate.
Traverse Town – First District.
Traverse Town – Fourth District.
La Cité des Cloches – Town.
La Cité des Cloches – Court of Miracles (Sora).
The Grid – City.
The Grid – Rectifier 2F.
Prankster's Paradise – Amusement Park (Sora).
Prankster's Paradise – Ocean Depths (Sora).
Prankster's Paradise – Monstro: Mouth (Riku).
Country of the Musketeers – Training Yard (Sora).
Country of the Musketeers – Grand Lobby.
Symphony of Sorcery – Chamber.
The World That Never Was – Avenue to Dreams (Sora).
The World That Never Was – Nightmarish Abyss (Sora).
The World That Never Was – Delusive Beginning (Riku).
The World That Never Was – Verge of Chaos (Riku).
The World That Never Was – Memory's Skyscraper (Riku).

>>380024263
I've completed kh1, re:com and 2 fm on emulator. With a keyboard and mouse. It works really good on 7 years old amd cpu.
BBS FM is also perfectly playable on PPSSPP emulator.
Days and Recoded are playable too, but they are meh, so you can skip them just watch the cutscenes.
DDD is playable with glitches and stuttering sound but you need i7 and GTX 1080. The citra(3ds emu) is still not very optimized.

>>380019183
>Any word on if Star Wars
Pretty much no chance. Someone from SE, pretty sure Nomura, said they was pretty much no chance because it wasn't Disney's decision, it's EA's. Disney sold the video game rights to EA for a few years and they were exclusive video game rights because Disney are fuckign stupid when it comes to vidya now.
>>380019905
Yes there is, see above.

>>380024670
i have been reading it. i have the trophy list up and it shows the same guide.

Does the HD collection on PS3 share trophies with the PS4 version?

>>380025229
Then you must have missed one. I've got the trophy for it. Just redo them all.

>>380025343
No, two separate lists. The PS4 version changed a couple of them (KH1 and CoM difficulty trophies now stack) so they're less grindy.

>>379987860
don't listen to this guy KH always sucked, only nostalgiafags defend this garbage for toddlers

>>380025795
bait

>>380025795
Wow you sure showed that guy from 6 hours ago. I'm impressed.

>>380025968
>>380026035
t. squareshills

>>380026157
>shilling a 15 year old game
You're beyond retarded. Seek medical help.

>>380026157
(you)

-Adjusted player movement and actions in Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts 2 to accommodate 60fps.
-Adjusted Kingdom Hearts 2 battle feature.
-Fixed Kingdom Hearts 2 application error upon saving.
-Adjusted Kingdom Hearts camera speed
-Fixed other various issues.

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QUICK! CLAIM YOUR KEYBLADE

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>>380026364

>>380026229
you are shilling this garbage franchise here idiot.

Wow
Jap Sora's voice is really shit

>>380026320
source?

>>380026458
nigga leave the thread

should I:
Play Re:CoM on easy to get through as fast as possible?
Just watch the cutscenes on youtube?

I played original on GBA when it came out, but I need a refresher.

>>380026458
You don't even know what a shill is. Please stop regurgitating buzzwords you heard other people use to try and fit in.

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>>380026364

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>>380026364

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>>380026364

>>380026737
If you don't care about trophies, then yes.

>>380026572
posted on gamefaqs i believe

>>380026320
someone needs to confirm if they fixed zebra xemnas, fuck I want this shit to be the definitive kh2fm

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>>380026364

>>380027056
I'd probably buy it if most things were fixed.

>>380027138

the save fix is a maybe for me, if they fix xemnas it's a 100% buy for me

>>380026737
If you are already played the original and just want a refresher, just watch the cut-scenes

>>380027415
noice

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>>380027415
>battle feature

what the fuck does this mean?

>60fps movements

color me impressed, if they went that far they have got to fix xemnas.

someone gotta test this with a save file right now.

>>380006750
I have heard people call just about every KH game "floaty."

KHIII's combos look like KHII's.
KHII never had the weight that .webm portrays.

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>>380012951
>Platnium'd KHFM because I wanted to
>Will probably go into Re:CoM on the easiest difficulty
Should I skip it and watch the cutscenes and go straight into 2?

>>380027415
Thank you Joshua Stephens.

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>>380027415
so does anyone know if this fixed xemnas yet? i doubt they fucking did it. so i'm just going to assume they didn't

>>380027958
Allegedly he is fixed.

https://youtu.be/qt_qBLzwIAY

Apparently it was fixed, at least according to this video.

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>>380027776
>that pic
Censor that shit you nigger, do you wanna get banned?

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>>380028197

the madmen did it! fucking based SE

>>380028197
holy shit. holy shit.

>>380028197
>they actually patched it after all this time
Wow, credit where credit is due. I thought they had forgotten all about it by now.

>>380027292
nigga >>380028197

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>>380028197

I know what I'm buying next weekend

>>380027956
Don't fuck with the Goof

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>PS4 now officially the definitive version
They didn't even need to give KHFM a theater mode but dammit am I glad they did

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>Not having Drill-G on your gummi ship

Wonder what FF character will be introduced in this game. Better not be Lightning please.

>>380028197
I haven't bought the rereleases yet, what was wrong with Xemnas previously? You couldn't use Reversal on him?

>>379984428
what does the patch fix for the collection fix

>>380028678
Roxas vs Xion cutscene added to 358/2 Days as well.

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>>380028826
>not wanting some lightning x sora /ss/ in kh3

>>380028826
Cor?

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>>380028197
webm version

>>380028928
>Roxas vs Xion cutscene

what do you mean?

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>>380028826
No chance considering she's not a Nomura character. It'll probably end up being Noctis, which is fine because I like him. I hope he and Sora go fishing.

>>380028901

reaction command fails to appear and you get hit or killed by the attack, it has a small chance of happening in the original ps2 kh2fm but the ps3 ports increased the chances for some reason

>>380027956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHp7-azrj2c

>>380028787
To this day I don't know how the melee pieces work.

>>380029121
It skips over the battle in the movie version of Days. Apparently they're adding in a battle cutscene, think Sora vs Roxas in KH2.

>>380029191
Aw shit that was a bug? I thought I was just supposed to Reflect or something.

>>380029134
>Were where you when Noctis was crown king of Hollow Bastion.

>>380029134
>she's not a Nomura character
U wot

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>yfw 2017 is the year of Kingdom Hearts

can't fucking wait for next month

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>>380029534

>>380029534
I literally marked my calendar. This shit better be good.

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>>380028670

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>>380029534
15 year anniversary.

>>380016432
>>380009454
It's actually -Gun for 4th level spells in Japan (and for some accessories in KH1 in english) but it was changed to -za in english localization. You also have Zero Gravigun/Zero Graviza in 3D

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>>380024254
my dick twitched reading this

>>380029863
The English version of KHFM also has accessories like Blizzagun

>>380016859
I can see that. It gives more of a reason to use other keyblades

are the disney ride things still a thing or what

things I love about Aqua
>she's cute
>she's smart
>her short+thighhigh combo
>I love her!!
AQUAAAAA!

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>>380026364
>Claim your keyblade
>Everyone keeps posting keyblades that doesn't look like keys
STEP IT UP, SEMPAI

>>380030168
no one knows

>>380029863
>>380030021
KH2 has the Firagun Bangle, Blizzagun Armlet and Thundagun Trinket as accessories, as well as two RCs against Volcano Lord and Blizzard Lord called Firagun and Blizzagun

>>380028197
I never really understood this attack. Do you just spam reversal until he stops doing it?

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>>380029825

>>380030272
thats just a sword though

>>380030272
>Everyone keeps posting keyblades that doesn't look like keys
No.

>>380030350
That's the idea, but you can choose to do other things like Reflect and Session

>>380030350
its one of the few reaction commands that requires timing

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I won't touch KH until they announce a complete collection

>>380030350
yes, you are probably confused because you got hit even when you spam triangle which is the glitch itself

it looks like valor/wisdom/master/final forms aren't making it in, and we're getting individual keyblade transformations or something instead?

a shame, I always liked them

>>380030350
Yep. Throw a Reflect between each one and you can deal some decent damage

>>380030350
if you mess up on the reversal then sometimes you get this hidden reaction command where xemnas riku and sora clash

>>380030563
That's going to take a while, if at all. Maybe a few months before KH3's release in a few years or something.

>>380030604
>implying they won't just assign those forms to some keyblades

I hope they do

I WANT TO CUM INSIDE AQUA!!!

>>380030604
there was a trailer back then that was never released that showed off valor and wisdom. i wonder what was up with that

>>380030563
Most you're getting is a saga bundle after KHIII releases.

No way they're doing a 1.5+2.5+2.8+III

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>>380030778
>a trailer back then that was never released

>>380030563
Best case scenario is KH3 comes out in 2018. Which means we probably won't see a bundle on PS4 (maybe PS5) until 2020.

>>380030886
Sometimes they do KH events that have exclusive trailers.

will this game have dual audio?

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I NEED THIS GAME NOW

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>>380030272
How do you feel about the upgraded Fenrir featured in KHX?

>>380031024
no

>>380031169
not him but what the fuck? kh2 one definitely looks better

>>380031024
>listening to it in a foreign language
baka

>>380030886
>http://www.siliconera.com/2014/12/01/saw-kingdom-hearts-iii-teaser-soras-transforming-keyblade/
>The next scene showed a town with white houses stacked on top of each other and huge windmills. This town seemed grand and tranquil, not unlike Twilight Town, but instead of a sunset palette the buildings were primarily white. A plaque underneath said "Cable Town" and the camera zoomed into one of the buildings. Doors opened and the camera panned horizontally by chess pieces (one of the pieces had Mickey’s head on top) and a chess board. The scene switched to Sora entering the room and walking towards the chess pieces which were placed by a window. Sora picked up one of the pieces and the trailer ended with a message promising more Kingdom Hearts III news in 2015.
They do it all the time

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>>380030272
this is to go even further beyond

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>>380031306
keyblades in KHUX come in 'lesser' versions which you upgrade. it reaches a second stage (the original) before reaching a third, which is more...garish, in general.

>>380030458
Its a motorbike key amigo

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>>380031169
>>380031306
I'm him, and it's nice that they actually tried to carry the spirit, even if it's a bit too symmetrical. I agree that the KH2 one looks better, though