Does Bethesda know about the origins of the KKK?

Their origins doesn't matter.

They're just bad people lumped into the melting pot of baddies.

Makes sense for them to actually share the ideals of Nazis, honesty I wouldn't doubt they'd join forces if Nazi Germany expanded into the US.

People assume Nazi Germany hated black people for some reason.

>>379982117
You're overthinking it. They're white, that's good enough.

>>379982117
Shit you could even go into the catholic vs protestant bend that the KKK and Germany has, that'd be pretty interesting.

But no normalfag wants to play as a KKK member fighting Nazis

>>379982117

Which history book did you get this information from?

>>379982429
The KKK literally helped communists. Nazi Germany wanted them wiped out of existence.

>>379982429
There's literally no way in hell they would have done that

>>379982742
Because Hitler wasn't a big fan of the blacks. Jessie Owens kinda showed that.

>>379982429

>Makes sense for them to actually share the ideals of Nazis,

Except the KKK didn't like government encroachment while the Nazi ideal is that of complete government encroachment. It's one of the biggest reasons why the KKK didn't like Catholics.

>>379983049
Not OP but if Nazi propaganda like OP pic showed the KKK as bad guys, it would stand to reason that they hate the KKK.

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Agame when the evil, just completely inhuman wicked Nazis taken over america in an alternative story and we have a good white goy fitting the racist nazis with a brave coalition of PoC. The story will be totally super hyper original with a strong and unique must needed moral message to the white racist people left!!!

>>379983084
>The KKK literally helped communists
All the more reason for the US to hate the KKK and be seen as bad people.

>>379983131
>Because Hitler wasn't a big fan of the blacks. Jessie Owens kinda showed that.
Hitler shook his hand but the American president didn't even give him a phone call.

>>379982429

If any of you idiots read history you would know how low the Nazis views the KKK.

>>379983812
cool but this isn't the real world fucker, this is an alternate universe that the devs can do with what they please.
KKK are friendly with Nazis now.

If you don't like it then don't play the game.

>>379983131
>>379983802
Not to mention the all black panzer division in north africa

lol, expecting americans to know anything about history.

>>379984041
dont worry about that, wont be. Regardless of plot, wolfenstein is a shit game.

>>379982117
The KKK was founded by a bunch of racist backcountry retards without the slightest concern for morals or ethics and had no problem using violence and terrorist to gain political power.

They're exactly like Nazis in every way but country of origin.

>>379983131
Yeah, but he didn't exterminate black people, and was nicer to Owens than most people in the United States at the time. The Nazis were more than happy to have blacks in the military, as well, which was something that America was still barely comfortable with.

>>379984272
you are retarded, because that's historically untrue.

>>379983812
The only concern the Nazis had for KKK was the KKK hated catholics and the Nazis were almost entirely catholics.

>>379982117
You mean the KKK was created by a group of Freemason rejects.

>>379984041
>Gets BTFO by historical facts
>hurr durr it isn't real
>alternate history shouldn't have basis in fact

>>379984486
You're retarded, because that's historically true.

>>379982742
Because they literally sterilized black people you collosal fucking dipshit.

>>379984041

>This is an alternate universe that the devs can do with what they please. KKK are friendly with Nazis now.

Because it fits a narrative. Stronk black womyn berating you as white boi sure is enough to make me fight and die for her. Hope our main hero knows how privileged he is despite the fact that he's responsible for killing Deathshead.

>>379982429
Nazi's had no problem with black people, read a book.

>>379983131
Personally congratulating Owens means he hated him?

>>379982117
Because "lol fuck drumpf and fuck white people fuck racism punch nazis". People eat this shit up.

>>379984716
what, no its not. The ku klux klan began as one of the many clubs for veterans of the civil war. It was originally just a group of buddies who drank together. The metamorphosis of the klu klux klan into its political form did not happen until later. You have no idea what you are talking about, so don't try to.

>>379984272
Nazi's were autistic moralfags. Literally anal as fuck /tg/ paladins that were so into LARPing about meh genetic purity that they made autistic charts about sorting races

>>379983131
Based on contemporary writings and legislation, Hitler and his cohorts saw the blacks as intellectually inferior to Germanic people, but not as a societal threat like the Jews.

It's hard to understand how the value judgements the. Nazis made for each race; much in the same way as it is difficult to understand the rationality of a schizophrenic trying to achieve godhood by mutilating his genitals. Delusions only make sense to the deluded.

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>>379984249
>"lol, expecting americans to know anything about history"
>Eurocuck with no history after '45
Your move

>>379982117
>defending the KKK

>>379984272

>They're exactly like Nazis in every way but country of origin.

Except they aren't. The Ku Klux Klan wanted limited interference by the government and felt their states were being exploited by Northern states after the Civil War. It might not mean much in this day and age, but this was back when states still had more control over their territory then the federal government. IF you went to war, you fought for your state first and foremost. Why do you think Robert E. Lee fought for the Confederacy? Because it was for Virginia.

Also, your comment can be used for ANY political ideology. Hey guess what? Communists did the same thing by gaining power. So did Islamists in various countries such as Syria, Libya, and Iraq.

>>379985272
The KKK did the same shit, anon.

>>379985248
http://m.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/history-archaeology/ku-klux-klan-reconstruction-era


How much later exactly?

>>379982117
Weren't the KKK members actually being arrested by the Nazi in the trailer? Are you retarded?

>>379984338
>The Nazis were more than happy to have blacks in the military, as well, which was something that America was still barely comfortable with.

Yes, it's almost they were fighting against the whole world with very limited human resources, you fucking retard.

>>379985324
This. Hell, the Nazi's tried to get the Jews the fuck out and every country turned them back saying they didn't want them either. Nazi's made a few different plans like sending them to Madagascar, but eventually working with zionists on the Haavara Agreement to set up Israel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

>>379984794
Final scene of the game is a moral choice between the protagonist killing himself, the last white male in the world, to end white privilege once and for all, or saving himself but continuing the cycle of oppression indefinitely.

>>379982117
Because

>THEY TOLD US THAT NAZI ONLY WHITES AN HAITZ JEW FRIENDZ FUR NU RESON

Now delete this pile of a shit thread or i'll stab a bitch.

The Birth of a Nation (1915) was a literal KKK movie the first major film from America and as American as it gets, the merchants sure did a real number on American culture since the end of the civil war

>>379985875
It's almost like they had black, Islamic and other soldiers from the beginning of the war, not just when they started losing.

They just really hated the jews, they weren't literally the KKK in Germany.

>>379985552
The Nazis wanted to kill the Jews, the KKK wanted to kill the blacks and the jews.

The KKK gave fuck all about states rights and rights of the individual unless it happened to work directly to their benefit. They weren't mad because the North was exploiting them, they were mad because the North was teaching black people how to read and write. As for Robert E Lee, he fought for the Confederacy because he was a slave owning white supremacist, and fighting for the north would mean giving up his personal fortune.

because they have a cartoon view of nazi germany and if they try to discuss actual history about it they might get thrown in jail for holocaust denial

>>379985661
"The KKK was formed as a social group in Tennessee in 1866. The name probably came from the Greek word kuklos, meaning "circle." Klan was an alliterative version of "clan," thus Ku Klux Klan suggested a circle, or band, of brothers. With the passage of the Military Reconstruction Acts in March 1867, and the prospect of freedmen voting in the South, the Klan became a political organization."

are you retarded? read back what it says to me,because I think it describes the origins of the clan as a social group. Additionally, your characterization of clan members as brutish thugs, while not necessarily untrue, is completely devoid of any recognition of social conditions in the south. Neck yourself.

>>379986464
If you read past that paragraph you would know that it took two years before they became a terrorist organization.

>>379985661
>tfw you and your drinking buddies have a few too many and accidentally set up a wide ranging organization dedicated to resisting the elected government of your state and maintaining strict racial hierarchies

just some good ol boys having fun

>>379986759
Oddly enough, seems almost familiar to the National Socialists of Germany. Hmm.

>>379986640
what the fuck, thats my fucking argument. Thanks for proving it I guess. And again, you should take into consideration the conditions of the south when such groups were created. But you wont, you don't care, its easier to classify the early klan as bigots who really hated black people, without ever considering the reasons they might have hated black people, or done anything, really.

>>379987232
look im sorry if your ancestor was a klansman or whatever but the kkk was operative on history as a terror group opposed to reconstruction

>>379987232
Well, the way I see, if it only took two years before your good old boy drinking parties become widespread organizations devoted to terrozings freed slaves from exercising their rights, it couldn't have been that good of an organization to begin with could it?

The US should have picked it's own cotton or at least did the same thing Arabs have done for hundreds of years and castrate their slaves.

>>379988004
One of the reasons slavery lasted so long in the US compared to the rest of the western world was exactly because they didn't castrate their slaves. The slave population in America grew insanely fast even after they made the slave trade illegal. If all of them were simply castrated early on in the 1700s or so slavery in the US very well could have died an early death.

>>379988004
America would of been a perfect place without niggers but the white man had to bring them. Thanks white people you fucked us all.

>>379987705>>379987935

except im not defending the clan, merely asking you to actually delve into the reasons behind the clan. Think about it this way, did the clan turn from an old boys drinking society into an organization of hate because several people of supreme evil gathered into one spot for a brief period of history? or did the clan form because several very fallible people, fallible like we all are, gathered during a particular set of circumstances. And, if the second is true, is it somehow impossible for those circumstances to exist today? It is important to dig deeper into the clan than just, "it was a group of bigots", because that sort of digging is the first step to precluding the formation of anything like the clan ever again.

>>379984762
nope

>>379986640
And that just proves his point you idiot, just admit you fucked up

When you're not-white you don't need to connect any dots or pretend you're intelligent.
No low IQ black person is going to question this shit. White leftists rush to the pets aid an defend them so they can keep drooling and sucking shit off the floor that Bethesda shits there.

>>379982782
This basically.

>>379988814
So your point is that we should not rag on the KKK because we are all human and all make mistakes. Yeah, I'll pass. Racist shits like them deserved to be stamped out and made life in the South a living hell for freed slaves.

>>379989548
No Deashawn, you are the racist.

>>379988914
http://m.dw.com/en/the-fate-of-blacks-in-nazi-germany/a-5065360

>>379989548
What? no, that wasn... fuck it, whatever, do what you will. I wont repeat myself, so just reread my previous posts to get the crux of my argument. You know, people like you are what truly allowed hitler to come to power. And presumably are what will provide for the next one.

Now this is video games.

>>379989548
stop making fun of racists you fucking bigot

calling out racism is a form of racism in itself

>>379983131

Owens claimed Hitler had at least smiled and waved at him while our FDR refused to meet any non-white athlete. It is a myth that Hitler snubbed Owens when he really did it to every athlete including Germans. It is believed(but probably not true) that Hitler refused to meet with any athlete because he did not want to congratulate any competition and meeting with German athletes would obligate him to meet with the competition as well.

>>379989939
That's what you get when you start to incorporate a political agenda, with no knowledge other than a superficial one, into something that never needed it, and that is made mostly by drones for drones

>>379989937
I'm simply not grasping your argument. You rush to the defense of the KKK, then preach that we have to understand them. You can understand the beginnings of an organization and still despise their actions. And if you have to repeat to yourself that people who disagree with you are who let Hitler come to power, whatever. You do you.

>>379982117
>>379982117
Americans are legit retards with elementary level education. Their only knowledge of the National Socialism comes from American Nazi Party larpers who were just a KKK offshoot, and of Hollywood movies like Indiana Jones.

They know nothing of how National Socialism was an anti-reactionary movement that opposed western capitalism and supported eastern non-white races against colonialism.

>>379989548
>Racist!
I'm pretty sure what that anon wants to explain is that instead of shutting your eyes and ears and scream racist at everything, you should instead look up how it came to be that way. Ghandi didn't became a pacifist hippy from day one nor does Hitler started gassing the Jews with his zyklon b pacifier. Even if you cannot sympathize with them after knowing what made them that way it is still something worth looking up which will make you grow up as a person instead of another retard who shuts their ears and scream buzzwords following popular opinions without a thought in his brain which is the /v/ problem now really, so many idiots screaming out muh pol/sjw without a second thought because it's easier than thinking.

What if....
Nazis having robots change space and time and so they are friends.

Or maybe they just pretend to be friends, because if KKK reveals Nazis would just kill them with rorobots

>>379990375
But you don't, you do not understand the start of the kkk, you have shown to not understand the start of the kkk, and that means everything. You are so worried that by not saying something negative about the kkk in every statement, that by somehow examining them from a neutral standpoint, you will become racist by proxy or somesuch. Live inside your box, and don't cry when reality comes knocking.

tl:dr, this
>>379991010

>>379991010
Listen, I understand the complex series of events that lead to organizations like the KKK come about. It was a case of once very much in control white land owners suddenly losing a very important facet of their economy - slavery - and being forced to watch as what was once their human chattel be treated as equal citizens by a government that just montages ago raided their land in a bloody, bloody war. I get that. But the KKK, Nazis, or any other goddamn organization of the same should not be treated with kiddy gloves just because we don't want to be too rough.

>>379991531
See >>379991578

>>379991578
you are still missing a single important factor.

>>379991794
Then explain it to me.

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Sure do love talking about video games on the video games board

>>379984272
>liberals are pretending they give a shit about morals and ethics now
Loving
Every
Laugh

>>379991578
>Leaving out the colossal rampage of rape and murder in the wake of roaming gangs of former slaves.

Come on. The KKK is evil but don't sanitize history. It was a shitshow

>>379993746
Source. Give me this fucking source

>>379993906
Google exists y'know
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan#Activities

>>379993746
Oh, I know what they did. The anon I was replying to was talking about their formations and motivations, so I was talking about that.

>>379995119
Right. The KKK was majorly concerned with the floating blobs of former slaves than went on murder and rape rampages and that's what let them grow so quickly, since the government was shit-poor at responding to it themselves.

And when things got under control, they stuck around like all protection gangs do, and became evil fucks.

>>379982117
All politics aside, that is a very cool picture.

>>379993746
Any source on black gangs raping women? The wiki page says nothing about it.