Will they save us from this shitty fucking E3 so far?

of course not you retarded faggot

>>379981840
They have to.

Microsoft already won, though

>>379981840
Don't expect an surprise, but still they have chance to save this E3.

They're not even announcing any games....

>>379982312
what do they do besides games?

>>379982123
with what? multiplats?

>>379982434
Yes, exclusives are cancer

>>379982430
Movies or something?

>>379982312
It will be convention tier.

>>379982434
>with what? video games?

you can't make this level of stupid up.

>>379982434
How can anyone complain about games more people can play?

IT BEGINS!

5 Seconds in and I can tell this is gonna be Konami 2010 all over again.

Is it on youtube or just twitch?

>>379984020
On Twitch, their channel.

what the fuck is happening

>TOMORROW'S UNETHICAL BUSINESS PRACTICES TODAY
>following up Bethesda's conference with that
My absolute sides

This is great

VERY cool.

>>379981840

they are fucking hilarious

Game looks cool

im enjoying this so far

10/10

This conference is better than all the others together.

Unironically winner of E3

>indie publisher ended up being the best conference
holy shit

SUDA!?

link to the stream?

>>379981840
This is great

>>379986927
https://www.twitch tv/twitch

This is the worst humor ever

The future?

It's hilarious much better than the preceding conferences.

What the fuck did I just drop into

Is it weird that I'm kind of loving this

did this just happened did they just shhit on everything bethesda did just now

reddit: the presentation

That was actually very well put together

hey devolver, do less

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P U R E K I N O

It was nothing

holy shit, they saved this e3

God that was awful

This really is unfunny.
How come all of you are saying this is the best conference so far?

is this. . . is this what /tv/ calls . . . K I N O ?

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they just shhit on everything bethesda did just noww

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Did I just see Charls?

>>379987429
reddit is not good at all so that cant be the comparison

Is this suppose to be funny?

JUST: the conference

>>379987547
Take a fucking guess

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Better that fucking bethesda

>>379987547
summer

>>379987547
reddit loves nu-comedy

>reddit and memey

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Best E3 conference of all time.

>>379987547
because this is contrarian paradise

they did it

>>379987547
sorry you have bad taste

That was terrible. Still better than Bethesda's conference though. Ruiner looks interesting.

If someone told me last year that Devolver Digital of all companies would save E3 2017, I'd actually slap them in the nutsack.
This is the weirdest timeline.

>>379987547
We love Konami's E3.

>>379981840
THEY DID IT THE MADMEN

man what the fuck is happening

>>379987547
because not everyone here is a jaded teenager like you

>>379987707
>>379987673
>>379987547
>>379987539
>>379987446
>>379987429
>wanted another corporate presentation
fuck off

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I don't want to sound too hard on this. Because this isn't bad, what they're doing. But they're not quite adult swim, and you make a CHOICE to watch adult swim. when you've had enough you can turn it off. this i am forced to sit and finish which makes it all the more unforgivable.

So yeah this still sucks and lets focus on what games they showed......... oh yeah.

>>379987814
No, that would be Konami 2010

But this one's good.

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What the fuck am I watching?

>>379987632
Kill yourself.

>>379987928
It's not over yet

was that actually it?
where the fuck was minit
where was any of the fucking games that devolver does?
what the fuck?

>>379987982
>this i am forced to sit and finish which makes it all the more unforgivable.
who is forcing you to sit in front of a screen and watch?

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This is unironically amazing.

>>379982312
>he doesn't understand ironic shitposting

that wasnt funny

Now, where did I leave that spork?

>>379987972
It wasn't funny.

Good idea, poor execution.

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Devolve won E3.

Overdone, but still had good satire

>>379987547
Because it is you, who have no sense of humor or sophistication

i should have expected something like that from devolver but i didn't

really reminded me of adult swim's various infomercial things, like too many cooks

>>379987972
>DUDE LETS USE SHITTY META JOKE XD
You are no better asswipe

>>379987982
Um no, you can turn off this stream at any time too...

>>379988182
I'm sorry that you have no sense of humour.

>>379987972
I like videogames, not tryhard humor

Are you guys this dense? Because this presentation was done by Alan Resnick.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13167477

>>379981840
It was shit. ironic "humor" is just as vapid and vacuous as the topic they mock

>>379988182
k

>making fun of indie pixel shit multiplayer games


too based

>zero games shown
>muh lolsorandum comedy hahaha!
>/v/ eats it up
literal reddit

>>379987982
What, are you retarded? turn off the stream then.

>>379981840
WHO??

>>379987982
>WAAH I HAVE THE CHOICE TO WATCH A STREAM! THIS REALLY BOTHERS ME!

>>379988274
LOUD SCREAMING and RANDOM VIOLENCE XD doesn't make for comedy.

Should've focused on the CEO parody thing and drawn that out over the whole video.

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>>379982123
>>379982632
I remenverwhen yall would only talk about halo. They may have won e3 if this was 1993 but it isnt. 3500 indie titles arent impressive.

>>379988327
Well obviously it was weird as fuck with him at the helm.

>>379988393
They announced beforehand that there wouldn't be any game reveals.

>make something that will put us on the front page of reddit for a few hours

say no more pham

>>379988357
>only 20% of /v/ is made up of humorless assholes
You guys are awfully loud for your size

>>379988393
It's good because it's fucking garbage. I'd rather this than Bethesda's conference

>>379988393
>zero games shown

Sounds like the last conference.

This is the Evangelion of E3

>>379988615
Haha oh wow, so it was supposed to be shit all along? That retroactively makes it funny.

dude it's sooo le weird xD

>>379988707
>wahh, no games were announce that I like

no one gives a shit about your tastes

>>379988393
>/v/ likes something
>that makes it Reddit

Hmm..... What did this anonymous poster on /v/ mean by this?

>>379988357
It was E3 kino, it was really the best you could hope for in an E3 presentation

>>379988707
Wolfenstein isn't a game?

>>379988327
I'll believe it when I see his name.

>round 1 of 6

>>379981840
devolver has the best show so far

>devolver trying to be like adult swim with some unique comedic sketch even if its not THAT funny

>"HURR DURR THIS ISN'T ACTUALLY TRULY FUNNY ITS ALL BS WHERE'S MY CORPORATE PRESENTATION!"

>>379988749
Poorly understood symbolism and waifu wars?

The girl in the lab coat >the presenter

>>379987429
this, it's basically what Reddit Letter Media would do if they did a presentation
>lol we are being ironic guys!

>>379988357
Contrarians BTFO

>>379988973
Did you not check the credits screen when they scrolled past? That's how I know.

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>>379981840
A scathing, ultra-modern critique of both the corporate gaming industry and of those who try to co-opt anti-corporate sentiment for their own cynical goals.

If you didn't like it, it's because it went over your head, and you are, as those faggots over at /pol/ would put it, a "good goy."

You guys should've watched a stream of games journalists reacting to this. At the end when the burrito thing started I switched to Easy Allies' stream and they were all pissed off. They were the punchlines and they knew it. That's what made the whole weird thing worth it for me.

>>379989074
I just want games?
is that bad?

this is so painful. is the deskman meant to be pg sam hyde?

>>379989091
The presenter = Mari

>>379989236
They already said there would be no fucking games. This isn't even live. Is staged. The guys covering E3 already shut down. They aren't covering this.

>>379988861
I'm sorry, did I hurt your feelings annon?

>>379989236
Then why did you watch a press conference for a company that specifically tweeted hours ahead of time there would be no game reveals

I get the criticism
But remember
Random ≠ Funny

FUCK YEAH TWINKLE STAR

>>379989236
Why even bother watching presentations? They all blather on with not games forever anyway. Just watch all the trailers for shit you care about after

>>379988327
Who?

I unironically want this game.

>>379989074
>>379988504
>>379988861

Hmmmmm

>>379989236
they said no games
they said pre-recorded

>>379989218
I hope to see some compilation videos.

Has it started ? Wasn't it planned to be earlier ?

>>379989160
It scrolled too fast. I can take your word for it, but I'll have to check again.

they put way too much effort into this nonsense.

>>379989775
It's over. You missed nothing

>>379989627
The dude who did Alantutorial, Too Many Cooks and This House Has People In It

>>379989715
no games is no reveals
not fucking no games at the game conference

This is One Punch Man of E3 conferences

>we want the reddit audience
what did Devolver mean by this?

>>379990010
But OPM is shallow shounen with massive budget, this is high level comedy with no budget.

>>379989958
What?

>>379987547

The competition has been EA, which was fucking cringey garbage. Xbox, which has managed to outdo the "first on PS4" meme. And Bethesda, whose only new games were leaked a day ago and their only new announcement not leaked was the fucking return of paid mods.

So why are people saying it's the best conference? 0 fucking competition, is why.

I POPPED THE BALOON XD

>>379990118
When did you fucking losers give Adult Swim away to Reddit? Fuck off

what the fuck is this shit

HOTLINE MIAMI

>HOTLINE MIAMI

Who's the girl in the pre pre show?

>>379989074
>hurr durr muh parody of e3 cons, so lilt bro lmao.
Get out reddit.

>>379990796
KELLY

>>379990293
When they cancelled World Peace

>>379987713
>>379987735
>>379987763
>>379987891
>>379987969
>>379987972
>>379988237
>trying this hard to fit in

It was trash. Pretty much everything was overplayed.

>>379991029
>it was /pol/ all along
well there you have it

>>379989958
He didn't do Too Many Cooks.

This House Has People In It and Unedited Footage of a Bear are pretty quality tho

http://www.adultswim.com/promotions/claridryl/

>>379988896
humour came off more like /r/4chan than actual 4chan to me

>>379990868
Fuck off. If all you want is serious shit stop watching. This is video shitposting. I like it.

>>379991031
It really is fucking sad how all these little kids need to pretend they don't like something to preserve the idea in their heads that they're intelligent loners when they're actually just average social rejects.

>>379991342
btw not the guy you're responding to

>>379991156
It is what it is. During the 2016 election /pol/ became the overarching culture of 4chan.

>>379991526
No, it genuinely didn't. It influences some other boards, but it's still just one among many.

>>379991342
Why do you know what /r/4chan is like?

>>379982434
>multiplat
>only available from microsoft services.

>>379981840
People who found this shit funny most likely liked Konami's shitty e3 video a few years back too.

>>379991474
>intelligent loners
I don't think there's anything intelligent in seeing crap humour for what it is what the fuck.

Everything about the humour was clunky, overplayed garbage. I'm a little disappointed /v/ can be so easily pleased by this pathetic attempt to get down wit da kidz

>>379991745
I'm sure most people who hate reddit have at least been to the site.

>>379989160
>>379989781
There is no Alan Resnick in the credits.

>>379992008
>gets called out on his routine
>doubles down rather than come to terms with how pathetic he appears to others
You have a tough life ahead of you.

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this is some top cringe, lads

>>379992293
>posts maymays after 2010
>other things are the cringe

And the 'Most Reddit E3 Conference' award goes to...

>>379992282
What's my "routine"

>makes up bs argument about intelligence
>makes up argument about "routine"

Sorry kid, you have shit humour. I really hope people who found this shit funny aren't in their 20s. Jesus, the level of "get with the kids" is off the charts.

>>379992581
Bethesda

>>379992293
I dont know if cringe. They just dont care about being serious. They are just trying to shitpost and i love how out of the norm this is.

With leddit humor? Oh yeah, definitely OP, surely.

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JUST PLAY THE FUCKING GAME.

>Windowed mode

God this is so reddit. Fucking reddit. I just really hate reddit and their taste in humor and I hate fucking reddit. Did I mention how I hate reddit and that it reminds me off reddit? Fuck off reddit! Reddit tryhards!

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>>379981840
well that was fucking awful

>>379981840
They exceeded expectations in the most unexpected reasons.

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Reddit reddit reddit reddit reddit reddit reddit reddit reddit reddit. Reddit? Reddit reddit. Reddit.

I seriously hope none of you find this funny

>>379992743
>gets called out on his routine
>triples down rather than come to terms with how pathetic he appears to others
You're not in high school anymore, kiddo. Time to stop putting on airs.

This is terrible, but I can't stop watching. I must know how it ends.

>doseone
Interesting

>>379993434
Le terally reddit
>green text

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>You probably like stuffed animals with holes cut in the back
They fucking know

>>379993525
Calm down dude, little annon's anus can only take so much in a single night. At least use a lubricant.

>>379993472
It's unfunny but in a mesmerizing kind of way

>>379993525
I really don't get where you're getting this whole argument from. Airs? Intelligence? You're really reaching here.

>>379993957
It is the kind of humor that is so forced it makes you want to drop video games forever knowing that these faggots are in charge of them

Is this Hotline shit an actual game or am I wasting my time watching this for nothing?

A lot of mainstream shills shitting up this thread because the goys are enjoying something they didn't personally okay.

The shitposting after Bethesda was ruined by this... garbage.

This isn't funny nor is it exploitable.

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>tfw you've finally hit that point of age where new "comedy" seems fucking stupid to you
Do younger people really find this style of comedy funny?

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>>379994594

Gave me this though

what happened to the video games

>>379994986
No, I'm 19 and it was mediocre at best, cringe-worthy at worst.

they already saved us
it's just the shillposters here that are butthurt

>>379995634
It's hard to watch your paying overlords mocked so effectively

>>379981840
They just want to remind even more of how shit e3 always is.

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Remember when E3 was about... video games?
Like, remember when that meant something?

>>379995572
>teenagers trying too hard to fit in
Who would have guessed

>>379994986
I'm 25 and I was entertaied

Devolver feels validated by posting this atrocious "comedic" skit. They've produced literal shit and are patting themselves on the back for it. Jesus christ this is cancer.

>>379996490
Comedy is subjective. I enjoy it.


We have reached the point in which they overstayed their welcome. They keep going on with the same skit for over 40 mins. But its not shit.

>>379995721
I know, right? Sucks to be you.

YOU JUST GOT BOONED

>>379996712
It's shit for the precise reason you stated. This has gone on for way to fucking long. It should have ended when the girl's head exploded, but it didn't.

>adult swim games shirt
Now I know where they got the budget for this.

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>ywn be boonified

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Everytime it gets too shit for its own good, the ridiculousness loops around and it goes back to being fucking unbelievable.

Honestly, if this truly goes on for 10 hours I have no idea what plane of existence I'll be on.

They made fake games just to have on their fake post-show?

>nu/v/ doesn't understand successful marketing to normies
This is why you're poor and living in a basement.

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>>379997057
>it's a real movie

i went away for a while, wtf did i miss? why is toejam and earl here?

>>379993807
Context?

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I need to sleep but I don't want too

Twitch why have you made such advanced real-life shitposting?

>>379996490
It's twitch dude, twitch is behind all of this. Devolver was just one of many people part of the joke. The movie is real, kaiju big battel was always a thing, futureman is a small streamer they keep shilling.

>>379996968
Nah. The first part of the skit of the guys playing hotline miami was fine. by NOW its overstaying its welcome. Look at the viewer counter cutting to half ever since the stream began.

oh shit its johnny mundo

This wasn't funny at first but the fact they've been doing this for an hour straight shows their devotion to the joke. It's alright.

>>379996968
>>379996712
You don't get it, thanks for telling us. It's tell you to go back but redditors are all blacked so I doubt you know how to.

>>379997481
they are doing it until the conferences start up at 9 am tomorrow

Truckheck when?

Fuck, maybe it's the time that messed it up.

5am when I saw it. Way too sober and tired out to appreciate the humour?

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>Look for Devolver Digital Pre Pre Show
>When you see it

>>379997481
It's going to be a 9 hour stream

>>379994594
There are plenty of threads crying about Bethesdas shitty conference you fucking faggot

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dudes... all this absurdity and really short games, is this some insane announcement ARG for Frog Fraction 3?

I mean he even kept bringing up the frog game like 30 times

I don't like this take on Toejam and Earl, it looks like a shitty flash game

>>379994986
No trust me, they don't.
The only people I've seen who find it funny are 30+ and laugh at family guy jokes.

>>379995909
e3 is all just commercials and hype generators and hype and anything related to "hype" is the crux of the cancer to /v/

>people think pre-recorded footage shown 'live' is live

Lol twitch users.

WTF is Johnny Nitro doing there?

>>379997782
I'm pretty sure its not real. They some how got the rights just to fuck around.

>>379997676
fuck yes

>>379997953
That's not how you pronounce live

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>>379997676
>11 hours

>>379997718
Yeah, too bad a lot of the initial fun of it is gone now that I've had to bare witness to this train wreck some people mistakenly believe to be "comedy".

>>379997676
It has to be them messing with us, right?
r-right?

>>379997997
No, this is real. This is the Toejam and Earl game that was kickstarted awhile back.

I like it. But i stopped watching. Its 3 am here and i am tired as fuck. If that's unironically going on for so many hours i am gonna love and hate devolver.

>>379998107
>Bethesda conference ends
>tons of threads memeing about it
>instead, though, you go to a Devolver one to complain you couldn't meme with your idiot pals

I'm, actually kind of taken aback by how smart you are.

>>379998304
Yeah, I'm about to turn it off for bed. Reticent, though

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>>379997676

>>379998401
I congratulate them for shitposting for so many hours for no reason. But my human mind is too weak for these memes.

>>379997676
Twitch does not have this much shit to last 11 hours, fuck off.

LAMO IT'S FUCKING SHÄDBASE

i like how this is just turning into some weird wrestling thing

>>379997997
http://store.steampowered.com/app/516110/ToeJam_and_Earl_Back_in_the_Groove/

Bet you fags can't last til 9 am!

>>379999086
You bet right, but damn if I wont' try

>>379999086
>implying it's not 9am where I live already
the sleep deprivation is doing me in hard right now and I'm loving it

>>379999061
Oh and Frog Smashers was an itch.io game

>>379999086

... i dont want to stay up for this

>>379988393
They've shown 2 in 20 minutes compared to bethesda 1 in 40 minutes

BLACKED

>>379999329
If this screencap were posted on Friday, nobody would have believed E3 would come to this and that it'd fit in perfectly.

>>379982123
literablly who

>>379999449
show got blacked lmao

jesus christ the black guy just came in and literally stole the show from that cuckold

>>379997676
source on this image?

What game have they shown? Too lazy to read through thread

>>379995909
e3 has always been about marketing presos that are about video games but bear little resemblance to the video games that are eventually rleased so this fits in perfectly imo

This looks like a real game

>>379999610
>that cuckold
johnny mundo?

>not a single DHMIS reference in the whole thread
did no one else get that vibe or did you already forget about digital dancing?

>>379999449
>>379999582
>Mundo got cucked again
hahah

>>379999637
Two games that might not have been games, both Iso shooters, one of them was Serious Sam. Now it's Tim and Eric/Million Dollar Extreme abstract comedy that goes on for about 6 more hours.

>>379999637
you're actually watching bro simulator 2020, made with incredibly advanced tech

i'm sorry but that black guy is not funny at all and he doesn't mesh with the rest of the group.

>>379999086
No, I got to go to work

>>379999086
>went from 70k to 50k to 45k to 36k

Dropping like flies.

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Name the next wrestler to come out

a black professional wrestler is commentating a weeb puzzle cooking game

what the fuck

It's 1:30 am and this isn't even good but I kinda want to see how far they'll go

>>379999843
BROOKLYN BROOKLYN

>>379999637
>I forget
>Serious Sam 4 or something
>A Frog clone of Duck Game
>Old Obscure game tournament
>Procedural Generated Hotline Miami
>Toejam and Earl something or other
>And some Cooking Puzzle game now

>>379999843
he needs to get stoned

Is this proof that 4chan has finally completed it's transition from oldfags enjoying immaturity to newfags pretending to be serious?

Anyone from 2004-2008 4chan would love this shit

>>379999814
every game has been real except that arcade wario ware shit

>>379999880
hopefully kurt angle

>>379999880
>3am
>stream has dropped to 1k watchers
>rocky comes out

>>379999993
I know I am

>>380000000

>>380000127
it'll all be recorded anyway

>>379999993
>Anyone from 2004-2008 4chan would love this shit
No they wouldn't have, this is the fucking epitome of shitty millennial humor

>>379999993

'07fag here, loving every minute of the absurdity

>>380000043
The arcade was real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M_wwSlqAGw

Ok, which one of you took >>380000000?

>>380000206
fuck that

>>380000209
shitty millennial internet humor comes from 4chan in the first place

>>380000236
stop lying

>>380000209

>same people who thought blocking off areas in online games was funny

>>379982817
>>379983110
>>379991867
>IT'S OK WHEN XBOX DOES IT
I can understand Nintendildos because Nintendo was a great video game company for a long time, but Microsoft has always been a source of cancer. Fuck off and kill yourselves

Isn't this the Twitch show not the devolver confrence

>>380000374

Nigga I don't even consider myself an oldfag. That's reserved for people who've been here since 05

>>379999993
It was good, but the novelty wore thing shortly after kaiju wrestling
Was fucking awesome to see morrison still alive.

>when I am so out of touch with indie scene I have no idea if this game is a ruse or not

>>380000209
This is all still quite high brow compared to ye olde 4chan

>>380000209
this

>>380000239
did they actually play it rather than just showing a video, though?

>>380000043
>he's never heard of Twinkle Star Sprites and Ninja Baseball Bat Man
Pathetic.

/r/ r34 of that chef in blue

>>380000482
nope or maybe yep idk

>>380000534
You can see him on Lucha Underground every Wednesday

>>379999843
None of the group is funny, though
If you're still laughing at this shit you are a sad sad human being.

What's the puzzle game called?

>>379999787
There's no horror element to this.

>>380000652
it's all the newfags

Daniel Bryan namedrop

>>380000695
Based lucha shill

>>380000482

your fucking stupid. this 'pre show' is part of the pre-recorded 'conference'. just because it switched staged doesnt change shit. notice how it fucking says 'PRE-PRE show' that shit aint real. this entire thing is their 'conference' and it goes until like 9 AM PT

>ywn be big black and jacked

>>379999993
the planned jokes were shit, as it continued into more improv I'm assuming it started to get better
I'm planning to watch the whole thing, and I hope everyone becomes really tired and laugh at stupid shit.

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>>380001038

>>380000897
well somebody has to..

>>380001038
WHAT

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Big black man caressing a fat nerd's bread on an E3 livestream

We had truly arrived

>>380001087
I'm crying.

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>>380001087

>>380001079
>actually thinking its live
You are extremely naive.

>>379999993
It's a weird mishmosh of trolls pretending to be retarded and people (reddit) who think this is what you're supposed to say to fit in

>>380001087

Oh my fucking god

>>379982123
Okay, here's a challenge for you;
Rewatch their bit and take a drink every time someone says "4K"

>rick and morty
T R I G G E R E D

>>380001087
B L A C K E D

>>380001418
WORLD EXCLUSIVE

>>380001418
That's a really roundabout way of telling someone to kill themself.

>>380001325
I guess I am, but I'm not going to stop thinking it
it's more fun this way

>>380001087
dreams into reality
all of this on a indie stream

what the fuck

i watched the 15 minute pre-show skit/presentation

aside from one or two jokes that was the worst thing i've ever seen. couldn't bring myself to watch whatever the fuck they're streaming right now because it has to be worse

you were supposed to be the good guy underdogs, devolver. stop spewing this unfunny LOLSORANDUM garbage and just show some fucking games

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>schedule lists the show as 11 hours long
>haha good one it can't be that long

>check back hours later
>it's still on

>>379981840
Didn't Devolver participate in that resist jam? I don't see why I'd want to buy anything they are involved in.

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>>380005248
You missed out

>mods deleted the other thread
listen here you lil shits

>>380007131
/v/ is serious business. No fun allowed.

Duane!

>>380007227
It feels that way now. This is my first week back here in about 3-4 years, and there's nothing fun or interesting on this board anymore.

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>>380007227
>No fun allowed.

WHAT THE FUCK WHY DIDN'T YOU SPOIL THAT?

SHAUUUUUUUN

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>SHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN

fuckin kino

>SHAUN!
I've never been happier that someone is making fun of a game like this. I hated this fucking game for shit like the "SHAUN" and "JASON!"

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>>380005579
>i care about a video game developers political opinions
Careful, you may have enjoyed something they published in the past without knowing it. Better check google so you can hate it now and deny you ever played it in the first place.

This is fucking amazing
Captcha:Gordon's Fisherman

>>380007707
That's exactly what I intend to do.

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Definitely won E3 for me just because of these reactions.

Are you 32Xing yet?

>>380007946
I was watching Easy Allies cover Bethesda's. They got pretty upset over Devolver's. One in particular was really butthurt.

>>380007946
literally what is there to be bothered by

Sometimes when I pull it, it stretches the skin

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mfw

>>380008110
muh gore

>>379999787
where's the shitting on society
where's the shitting on religion

So much boat talk I'm having berserk flashbacks.

This shit is literally just Adult Swim shitposting on the Twitch E3 stream.

Amazing idea, the humor itself was a bit too over the top though. The first few minutes or so were the best though.