>BETHESDA BRINGING BACK PAID MODS

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GOYIM

>>379972131
its ok for the low price of 20 dollars you get to add a tame and safe for work piece of armor or a hilarious crab partner to your game, something you wouldn't be able to do anywhere else!

>>379972131
It's such a shit idea, what the fuck are they even thinking?

We rioted before & stopped them last time like with net neutrality. Now we gotta do it again (⌐■_■)

>>379972131
Haven't paid mods been a thing since FO4?

>everything needs to be about money
Humanity was a mistake. Whatever happened to people creating something out of love for the game, community, or just the simple act of creation?

>>379972131
As someone who used to make Mods, I will say that they are alot of work and are difficult to make, so I think its perfectly fair for Moders to be able to charge for their Mod. However they should be able to offer it for free if they want to. If you want a paid mod for free, then make it yourself if you think its not a big deal.

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>>379972131
>the paid mods are a massive success on consoles
>therefore it's here to stay even on PC despite the massive bitching since money is being produced
>mods will soon become a standard on console
>mods will soon become paid DLC across ALL platforms
>there's nothing you can do about it

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Have they learned nothing? What the fuck even is this shit?

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>>379972131
FUCK THIS SHIT. THIS IS NOW A FLCL REACTION IMAGE THREAD.

>console
>no scrip extender
>scripter extender creator is against paid mod
I see how this will go

>>379972131
Just pirate them

>>379972131
IT WAS TOTALLY VALVE'S FAULT
IT WASN'T BETHESDA WHO PUSHED FOR THIS

>>379972131
PAID MODS SHALL DIE AGAIN IF I GET 100 (you)s

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>>379976846
I'm praying to cantido-sama every day that the new season isn't shit.

It's not even JUST paid mods, it's microtransactions.
>credits
What the fuck, bethesda?

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>>379972131
>cuts out Valve as the middleman
>out jewing the jews

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>>379975575
i hate digimon but

>>379977819
Meh. I have decades of games to play without having to worry about this shit. It sucks, but I stopped buying Bethesda games after the shit show that Skyrim was.

>>379977819
pity (you)

>>379978032
Wait there's a new season?

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>>379975575
NO NO NO!!!!! WHY DO CONSOLE FUCKS HAVE TO RUIN EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>379978032

>new season

Explain yourself

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>already backfired on them once
>they decide to give it one more go

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>>379972131
NO GABEN TO LISTEN TO YOU NOW
NO GABEN TO SAVE YOU NOW

>>379972131
They did say they 'implemented them wrong' in regards to Skyrim on Steam. It was obvious they still desired to make paid mods.

>>379979204
>>379978926
not him but it's coming out later this year. i unsure if I should be excited or not

>>379978926
>>379979204
Mah senpai

>>379975575
Consoles really do ruin everything. More news at 11

>>379979595

>exact same shit with still none of the quality control
>but it has our name on it
>so it's definitely better

It's like they want to die

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>>379979889
As a mainline TES fan, I know I do.

>>379975575
Beeing completly honest heRe. paid mods aRe aboslute gaRbage because this shit will infest computeR gaming aswell in the neaR futuRe and theRe is nothing we can do About this but have to Pay

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>>379972131

>>379980323
does your shift key have seizures anon???

>>379980323
>Capitals
Kill yourself my man.

BUY MY MODS

>>379980840
Type out what he capitalized if you can't see it you dunderhead.

>>379979553
How about no more money from me?
Bethesda just killed their modding community

>>379980323
Clever 9/10 post

>>379975575
consoles ruin everything, just think about where gaming would be today if consoles didn't exist

>>379979846
Let's not forget it being cross-platform which means that it essentially negates the Script Extender. So almost all the good mods will still be free.

But hey, you can pay $20 to replace all the dragons with Thomas the Tank Engine. That's worth it.

Let's not ignore that they have completely stopped all development of future ES games because of their garbage MMO.

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>>379976846
Got yo back homie. Posting best girl.

>>379972131
FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA FUCK YOU BETHESDA

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>>379972131
Well the mods are usually what fixes the games so why not give the money to the ones that deserve it?

>>379974560
Net neutrality is going away too though.

So they're going to make all games, even single-player games, online-only. And then we'll have to pay our internet service provider (and there's only one) extra money for a "fast lane" and then we'll have to pay increments of $5, $10, $20, and $40 for content that was made by "volunteers".

>>379975476
Paid mods would be fine if the modder got to set the price and if something like 90% of the money went to the modder.

>>379972624
LOL!

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>>379981836

>the mods are usually what fixes the games

All of which require assets that are incompatible with SE/console shit.

>>379981836
>company releases unfinished game
>buy the game then buy the mod that makes the game launch
>the base game itself is complete ass
>buy 3 overhaul mods
>$100 for an 8/10 game

>>379978118
Yaaassssss Queen!!!

>>379972131
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRkrascT_iM

Dont forget to dislike and comment telling Todd to neck himself.

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>>379982409
>Not just pirating the released game and buying the mods that fix the game

I might be okay with paid mods if Bethesda was taking 15% of the profit instead of 75%.

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>>379981635
Patently false.

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>>379983238
But did she have her own episode? I respect your valid opinion

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Jesus they're not even being subtle about it.

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They're not 'paid' mods you dumbasses

https://creationclub.bethesda.net/en

>>379983948
Five dollars for a backpack.

>>379984060

>Bethesda defense force

Get out

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more best girl

>>379981113
BRRRRRRRAP?

>>379984060
They're covering their asses from what happened last time: Random people grabbing whatever already existing mods they could to try and make a quick buck

It's still fucking paid mods though

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>>379984060
>paid mods are not "paid mods"
>official high quality content
>Bethesda

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>>379983847
>mfw recording that episode to frame-by-frame when she lost her bloomers
>the fucking bedroom scene
Ah, to be young and horny again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SxjBWJPf78

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>i really enjoy Game
>I'm going to make a mod that I think makes it better for no other reason than my enjoyment of the game

>I make rifle skin
>gib money pls

To live in a time to see the rise of video games and then watch big business slowly rape them completely

>>379977819
What sad little bitch,are you really that desperate for attention?

>>379984706
Now look at the post's image that he replied to.

>>379984060
>the xbox360 doesnt have DLC
>msp is not a currency

no paid DLC

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>>379984815
Why do japs call them panties they wear in p.e. bloomers anyway? Why do they call bike shorts spats?

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SKSE64 ISN'T BEING RELEASED BECAUSE OF PAID MODS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>379984060
They're mods, though bethesda is trying to make them seem like "DLC"
Except we already know bethesda isn't above dumb shit like horse armor mods.
I wouldn't be surprised if the mods were like 1 dollar on average but you're forced to buy credits in increments of 10 dollars.

>>379985253
OH IT'S A FART JOKE

>>379985154
Yeah but that's not going to deter away from the quality of the game. The small dev them self that made their mod "payable" will be the one suffering.

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>>379972131
I'm tired of this petty greed. Bethesda is already one of the most successful western studios, and yet that's still not enough apparently. I hope this shit backfires again and ensures that no one develops mods for their garbage games.

>>379983948

There's something genuinely disgusting about them joking about how they've helped ruin modern video games and how they're trying to do it again.

Bethesda are the ones who are constantly pushing steam to do paid mods

>>379985576
Hell if I know anon. But from since we're on the subject and I'll take any excuse to share this, here:
https://exhentai.org/g/41497/0cbfe9e4f7/

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>>379985650

Well none of this would've happen if you retards didnt play their shitty games,am I right or am I right,faggots?

>>379972131
>the mods are being made by experienced developers
>a large chunk of those developers actually work for bethesda
Basically it's the DLC structure on steroids. Bethesda will have small teams set aside to make content which the player can buy if they want it or not. They'll be cranking out shit mod after shit mod and charging for each and every single one separately. It's literally just DLC but they're calling them 'mods' because 'modding' is everyone's favourite buzzword right now.

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>>379985962
>It backfires and Todd stops releasing Creation Kits and allowing mods

>>379985650
OH

God fuck
This is why quality posts have gone down the shitter on this site not because the creative Anons aren't here but because you newfag fucks are too fucking dense to fucking think FUCK

>>379986626
That's suicidal.

>>379986526

literally the only bethesda games I own are new vegas and morrowind and I've never even played the latter.

>>379986626
>Bethesda stops releasing the only reason why anyone plays their games

Without mods, nearly all of their games are an exceedingly mediocre experience.

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>>379986526
>>379986838
>have only played Arena and Daggerfall, both free
>friend is game sharing Morrow - Sky remaster, Fallout 1 - 4
>tfw Bethesda has gotten $0 from me

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>>379983948
>purchase credits

>>379987696
That bottom right is nightmare inducing

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>>379986382
Forgot image lol

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>>379972131

>>379987004
Yet they're the ones who are going to try putting them behind pay walls, effectively preventing people who don't have the credits to access them.

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>>379986754
Switched to mobile just to trigger you more faggot

/v/ bought horse armor while paying for their xbox live subscription

PAID MODS ARE NEVER EVER OK

I saw this coming the second they announced mods for consoles. The best way too push paid mods is through consoles.

>>379988374
no

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>tfw you'll never own a yellow Vespa 150SS

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>>379975575
Remember when everyone used to bitch non-stop about DLC here?
Boy howdy, were those the days.

>>379985617
worse, they will price the currency so you can never get the full value from it.

>$5 for 550 points
>there are no 50 point mods

>>379988312
They're greedy Anon. They're just testing the waters again to see if their playerbase will actually eat this shit up this time.

These companies will only get away with what you allow them to.

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>>379972131
Hey idiot, you don't exchange money for mods. It's not paid mods.

Fucking brainlet.

>>379972131
Paid mods are GOOD. The Free Market will make mods better quality and lower price than the current slew of shitty free mods.

>>379988374
There was a massive shit flinging for years and years because of that, not to mention there would be a lot of guffawing from the mention of
>xbox live sub
>playing moddable games on a console

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>>379975575
>>379975971
I WARNED YOU ABOUT THIS FUTURE
ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS SUPPORT EVOLVE

>>379989014
But I have a lot of good mods that the Eternal Hebrew didn't charge me for.

>>379972131
>>379972360
Theres literally nothing wrong with paid mods
>>379981347
Your PC would cost $5000

>>379989014
what about mods that violate the NAP?

>>379989014
Yes because clearly the last time paid mods for Bethesda occurred truly wonderful great quality mods were being released, and not shitty retextures and uploads of other peoples work.
Fuck off Todd.

>paid mods are a bad thing
>/v/ bought team fortress and counter strike making valve a billion dollar industry while continuing to support their distribution service to this day

really does that thing

>>379989014
Avenues already exist for skilled modders to be compensated for their work.

Todd just wants a big slice of the pie.

Paid mods would expedite mod creation however the only mods that I feel are lacking for FO4 are sex mods.

>>379989680

>team fortress and counter strike are backpacks

>>379990248
>Need SexTec for sex mods
>Need F4SE for SexTec
>F4SE is still in development because a bunch of people left for SKSE64 but abandoned it when they found out about paid mods
Thanks Todd.

>>379981836
Because if their Steam model is anything to go by, the actual content creature receives only a small portion of the money made off their work and they have to meet sales goals to even see it.

>>379989680

>this meme again

CS and TF2 weren't some small shit like a reskin or a new sword. IT was a full on conversion mod to become different games, not an addon.

OF course you won't give a shit about knowing this.

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>>379972131
i don't even pay for video games so what has changed

>>379990484
>paid SKSE64
They could make so much money.

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>>379989014
>lower price than the current slew of shitty free mods.

That's some mighty fine shitposting there, anon.

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SO.

Will this be killed by the extensive procedure to add a mod into the CreationClub combined with the renewed Internet outrage that's sure to be brewing from this?

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Aaaah, I remember the last time there was a fight against paid mods. Good times, good times. Such a feeling of victory when Valve stepped back on their decision!

Don't worry friends, we'll get through this just like we did last time. Sign some protests and let everyone know how angry you are. Write thoughtful, convincing arguments about mods being free.

>>379990884
Thank god they're not greedy fucks in it for the attention like the majority of modders.

>>379991106
Wont work this time.

Consolebabbies are stupid and will eat it up.

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>Bethesda releases Fallout 5, which is a completely buggy mess just like Fallout 4.
>The only mods available that actually fix the problems are 300-700 credits PER MOD.
>Fallout 5 effectively costs 80 dollars.
>Bethesda creates less release content and more CC content you need to purchase in credits since it's slicing the DLC pie even thinner.

>>379991214
Yeah, instead they are lazy fucks who don't do anything.

>>379981347
>>Your PC would cost $5000

No, if anything, it would cost less because of increased demand, gaming would be only possible on a PC station

Consoles grab a great part of players and monopolizes them (ie console exclusives)

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>>379991106
Beth-drones are already believing the double-speak on the website's FAQ.
It's over.

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>>379983948
>Yeah man fuck History! History is useless! - All the faggots who bash History Degrees and classes and records
this is why god abandoned us. this is why the jews won, this is why waifus aren't real.

>>379983948

>horse armor sold for 2.5 usd
>horse armor sold again for 3 usd

really makes me think

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>>379983948
What the fuck. It's like they know they're trying to lower the bar even more than horse armor did and don't even fucking care.
Just fucking kill me.

>>379991516
Yeah it's kind of a douche move to not release it because of paid mods, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're doing it to try and kill it - without SKSE64, you're going to get shitty mods and meme mods. Think of it as a noble but very annoying sacrifice that must be made for the greater good.

>>379985962
>yet that's still not enough
companies exist to make money
they don't reach a point where they say 'ok pack it all up, we've profited enough'

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>>379983948
>Bethesda will take 75% of the cut for paid mods
>Consolebabbies will still think that they're actually supporting modders

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>>379991370
>>379991574
You have to fight anyway! If you give up, they'll definitely win - if you try to protest, at least there's a chance, even if you feel things are already in doubt. And I don't think Bethesda is so firm in their decision that they can ignore protest from a large section of their fanbase.

If people are speaking in favor of it, make sure you're heard speaking against it. Get as many people as you can to help you out, make sure this is not swept under the rug an isolated gaggle of conservative diehards.

>>379992019
They can reach a point where their own customers can tell them to fuck off though. Bethesda is fully aware of how destructive this will be for the modding community and are still going to go through with it anyway.

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>>379990884
>dependencies all the way down
>end up spending $20 to get my futas with physics and working erections

>>379989167
Not worth it.

>>379991918
Greater good my ass. Modders are either lazy or greedy. There isn't a middle ground. If one wants good mods now one supports paid mods. If one wants free mods four years from now one is against paid mods.

>>379992514
Isn't your dick worth it? Think of all the fun times he's given you.

>>379992770
Maybe you should spend some time away from the cancerous Skyrim and Fallout 4 modding scenes to find some really good free mods.

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>>379992950
Fuck my dick, he reacts the exact same to hundreds of dollars of porn as he'd react to five minutes browsing whatever the fuck 4chan throws at me for free.

>>379984060
D a m a g e C o n t r o l

>>379993087
Oh, right, all the other games that no one mods for and thus aren't relevant.

>>379993462
People still update Oblivion mods.
People still create and maintain New Vegas mods.
Not so much on the plebus (I mean that's basically normie central, they really only care about MUH COMBAT and MUH GRAFICS) but definitely on other modding sites.

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>>379989360
If consoles didn't exist there'd be more PC hardware options and a wider variety of architectures since there'd be a shit ton more customers.
Imagine the exotic technologies we'd have adopted by now if consoles didn't exist. What if those dedicated physics processors caught on back in the day?

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>>379989000
Yes shill harder. Good, good.

>>379985581
Have they actually gone on record for that? If so.

YES, I AM FREE, NO MORE WAITING ON THAT SHIT TO MOVE EVERYTHING OVER TO SE!

This also means that no one will ever make a script extender for Bethesda games ever again. Script Dragon was a piece of shit. The golden age of modding is over.

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Let's say that the worst happens and paid mods become a thing across the board (despite the lack of likelyhood of that truly happening, since mods are so entrenched in the mindset of many fans as being free things and integral to the culture).

What do you do? Are you going to live under the system? Refuse it entirely?

>>379984060
No fucking way in hell those credits aren't fucking real money you cunt.

>>379994173

I just hope total war, arma 3 and tripwire doesn't follow their steps, otherwise i would just kill myself

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>>379972131
Honestly it cant be worse than the first time.
During that time they already divided the moding community from the people who does it for free and the jews.
Mods were taken from the nexus, retards started paying for shitty mods making the situation worse...
Whatever they do now isnt going to make a difference.

>>379994173
Refuse it entirely and go buy other games instead.

>>379994173
Refuse. Don't buy any game with paid mods. Don't pay for mods for your pirated copies.

Instead, pay for games that offer a free modding environment only. Use your wallet to steer the industry.

Bethesda just died for me.
They will never get a single dollar from me ever again.
All their games are boycotted.

BOYCOTT THEIR STUPID ASSES!!!
DEATH TO BETHESDA!!!

>>379994173
Make our own free mods in a free community using free hosting tools.

I'm sorry but you have to be retarded to have this affect you.

>>379994173
Pirate them

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>>379972131
because it worked so well the first time didn't it?

>>379991063
>will this be killed by outrage?

Their horse armor DLC has been getting hate for a decade now yet, according to them, it's one of their more successful DLCs.
Think about that for a moment

>>379994173
I either refuse to participate at all or pirate mods.

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>>379984060
stop falling for Todd's lies

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>>379984060
FAKE NEWS

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See this image.
This is what we do.
Every Bethedsda game should get a negative review on steam,GOG ot wherever they are being sold.

The outlash must be bigger than the last time.

DO NOT BUY BETHESDA!!!
DESTROY THEM ON EVERY FUCKING GAMING SITE!!!
DROWN ALL THEIR GAMES IN NEGATIVE REVIEWS ON METACRITIC!!

KILL IT OFF!!!
KILL IT OFF FOR GOOD!!!

>>379994816
/v/ is the reason why it was successful
fags here claim to be against DLC in all forms, boycott companies, and annual rehashes yet have single handledy kept companies in operation

>>379994614
This time they have support from console wallets
This time is completely different

>>379994524
>Boycotting literal shit
Good for you I guess...?

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>>379983054
>Buying something
>Off a pirated copy

You fucking what matey?

>>379974560
>being pro-net neutrality
>unironically using emojis

>>>/reddit/ is that way kiddo. This isn't even neo-/v/ anymore but neo-reddit now.

>>379995413
Impossible. Bethesda is more then they were those years ago. They have Id with them now. Another DOOM, Quake Champions on the way. Elder Scrolls Online still going strong. They can't be bled, not as they are. You would need to literally destroy their home office, kill their main developers and directors.

>>379981951
Modder who gets thousands of downloads here.

No, paid mods are utter fucking cancer. We already got a really ugly view of what it looks like when you monetize this shit; with communities splitting apart, cowards selling other people's work, reskinned assets for $1.99. This is a sickness.

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The Switch was the best part of the whole presentation.

>>379995681
>horse armor sold because of /v/
What?
/v/ doesn't get nearly enough traffic to even consider them to have buying power

>>379994173
Paid mods been a thing since GG became a taboo. Wake up anon.

>tfw ninamori got rejected so hard she turned into a dyke

>>379996046
You can, just start to rally people and we do what i just wrote >>379995413

>>379986526
I've bought Morrowind and nothing else. Bought that back when it was new too.

>>379996046
Here a link for you to start:
http://www.metacritic.com/company/bethesda-softworks
Every game here must get a negative rating and a negative review.
Same thing on steam.
Same thing on GOG.
Drown them in shit like we did last time.

>>379980323
Kill yourself you fart-fetishist nigger.

>>379996079
Unfortunately you also have people like Arthmoor and the people that made Sky UI, who are more then glad to sell their mods. People that see their millions of downloads as potential money.

Bethesda is coming for you again, the community will split because there is a large group of modders that hate youtubers, they are looking to protect themselves and think that Bethesda will provide the solution. When Bethesda suggests to turn all assets over to them for a large sum of money up front, they will jump at it, because then protecting it is Bethesda's problem and Bethesda will comply, to continue the illusion that they care.

>>379996485
No, it never works. Personal boycotts work, but you can't expect people to stick to it, they are weak. Someone post the picture of all those people that were boycotting Modern Warfare 2! Companies like this, are too large to fail. Especially when they are owned by an even larger company. Zenimax doesn't care if even 1 million people don't buy their next game because of this. Because they can expect over 10 million anyway.

>>379972131
The only problem I have with this shit (which was the main problem the last time) was when people would steal other peoples mods and put them on the platform cause Valve had such shitty monitoring.

Alot of modders that originally had them for free on Nexus basically got fucked over.

>>379984815
>Anime playing on Toonami
>Be 12 years old

Fuck, this anime was a great coming of age watch.

>>379997295
They care about publicity.If all their games are getting bad reviews and bad word of mouth they will care.

Bad word of mouth and negative reviews drive sales down.

Boycotting them works.

Negative reviews work!

They worked last time and they are going to work again.

they better have pretty stringent restrictions for what these faggots can sell at what prices
i'm only buying your shitty suit of armor if it's $2, well balanced and has a fully voiced quest line
how will they even handle shit like Immersive Armors?
what about the poor gentile creators who make add-ons for other mods?
this whole thing sucks

>>379997662
I think we've already seen that companies don't give a slight fuck what people think of their games when they're being bought anyway.

>>379997609
That's exactly what it was meant to be.

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>>379979435
>Hey! Buy this shit for 20 bucks!
>Fuck off

>Hey! Buy this card for 20 bucks then immediately trade it for this shit instead! You're not buying it, it's free as long as you have a card to trade in but only I sell the cards. The cards also have zero value outside of what I'm selling, no refunds!

Only in the game industry would we see something this dumb that companies think will take off.

>>379997784
I think that we saw the exact opposite since we destroyed their first attempt.
They care.
Unless you are a paid shill that is here to do damage control?

>>379997440
Impossible this time, but it still doesn't solve the other problem and that is the fact that this only encourages weapon and armor reskinning for a quick buck. Gameplay enhancements are harder, take more time. Bethesda would have to pay based on the type of mod or time put in.

>>379997673
Actually, I would expect that Bethesda would use their own Voice Actors when they can, most of them are in house anyway. They want to maintain an air of consistency with content provided. Having a mish mash isn't going to work.

>>379988693
every fat Filipino basic bitch has one here.

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>>379984060
you forgot part 2

>>379998048
>Impossible this time
t.paid shill

bethesda damage control is real folks

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>HOW DARE MODDERS MAKE A BIT OF MONEY FROM THEIR WORK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Stupid dumbasses the lot of you.

>>379997986
>I think that we saw the exact opposite since we destroyed their first attempt.

No, it was Valve who backed down. Which is why Zenimax/Bethesda cut them out.

>>379977061
Good, fuck those greedy assholes. If they want money they can make their own damnd scripts. Oh, but that would take work. All the monetization goons don't want to learn and actually understand what goes into making mods work. They just want it to work so they can make their precious dough. It's gonna be like early access all over again.

>>379998424
If it was a donation button, I wouldn't mind. But it's not and you know it's not.

>>379997986
No, Valve cared because we pestered them and DDoSd Steam until they decided the heat was too much. Bethesda weren't the ones that pulled the plug, they wanted to stay in and weather the storm. They will do so and it will stay.

>>379998275
Well, not impossible, but discouraged would be better. Bethesda would be facing legal trouble as they have already said it's not a service for converting existing mods and they have already turned over all 'rights' to current mods made with their tools to the modders. They would be in hot water if they allowed a current mod to get through curation. Class action lawsuit worthy shit and the service would be killed before it even began.

Actually I would encourage people to try, make sure they are paying attention.

>>379978542
until other game publishers do it. It'll catch up to you like all the other shitty practices, all because you just do nothing about it.

>>379998424
How many times do people have to spout this dumb shit? It's been refuted multiple times.

Last time with paid modding, Bethesda and Valve took the majority of the cut, and modders only received their cut after reaching a certain sales milestone. This won't be any different and is ultimately just a way for Bethesda to make a quick buck off the hard work of other people.

>>379998424
>How dare Bethesda make money off the work of their own customers fixing their shitty games.

Fixed that for ya, no charge.

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>>379984060
>But these Purchase Credits are useless.
>Each Purchase Credit will be worth 1 dollar! That will be the exchange rate set by gamers when I kidnap their modders!

>>379984060
>They're not 'paid' mods...
retarded

>>379984060
>No.
>…credits can be purchased on [every platform's marketplace]

Did Todd write this

So how does the Wolfenstein timeline work? Was it normal up until WW2?

>>379999452
No Hexen and Heretic happened; The Spanish Inquisition was the original SS

>>379999768
So the Spanish Civil War was like a family reunion for Germany?

>>379991524
and anyone with a toaster would be able to play newer games at 1080p 60fps with no problems because lazy ports wouldn't be a thing, while the high-end stuff would probably be pushing 8k resolution by now

consoles are true cancer

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THIS IS NOW A TODD HATE THREAD

FUCK YOU TODD YOU LYING PIECE OF SNAKESHIT YOU WEREN'T WITH YOUR SON AT ALL YOU ALL YOU DID WAS COVER YOUR SLIMEY NECK FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At first I was a bit skeptical about the whole Creation Club announcement but when I read through their official website, it seems like this is a way for them to try and improve mods and make them better.

They will have quality control, collaboration between the game devs and the mod authors and a bunch of other procedures and guidelines.

I can't wait for the exciting new mods that will come out from this system. Its gonna bring polish and better integration for mods as a whole.

>>380000210
Bitch we're talking about bethesda. They can't even QC their own games.

>>380000210
You see, even the wifi reception over at the graduation ceremony is better than what's in Todd's puny little brain.

>>380000210
hello there you fucking manlet
how was your wife's son graduation?

>>380000210
>Quality control
>Collaboration between the devs
>Polish

So basically everything Bethesda lacks?

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I mean, it's been done before.

>>379998424
You are the stupid dumbass if you don't know modders already get paid without this bullshit.
Nexus had a donation button since forever.

>>379984060
>All content works together

This doesn't even make any sense. Many mods are mutually exclusive to each other.

>>379972131
THIS IS SONY'S FAULT

They wouldn't allow third party assets in mods without a curator system, this allows that and introduces the paywall.

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>>380000210
>quality control
>Bethesda

>>380000210
>No more hentai mods because they wouldn't make it past corporate qc
No

>>379989360
no one reply to this poster

>>379994173
Don't really play that many mods anyway but I sure as hell wouldn't be supporting anything like a "paid mod" world would bring anyway. It honestly will mostly like be stuff exactly like they showed, minor cosmetic crap and I'm just not interested.

>>379982748

It's your civic duty to dislike this shit.

>>380001174
Why would you even think this? People will still make those mods, they just won't be on bethesda's official store.

>>380001662
You're delusional if you think they're not going to go a step further and find a way of only allowing mods they've OK'd.

>>380001896

I wouldn't doubt it, but that'd be in the far future. Maybe when they release TESVI, or even TESVII.

>>380000834
A lot of the popular FPS franchises started on PC as mods basically

>>379984060

Are you fucking stupid? What the fuck do I purchase credits with then, air? No you fucking monkey, ACTUAL MONEY.

KYS.

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>>379994173
obviously just pirate the mods. I pirate the games anyway

>>380002157
What makes you such an expert guy?

>Playing Bethesda games

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>>380001896

>>380000896
Who are these guys?

>>380002450
It's the logical conclusion. Straight-up paid mods blew in their face. So now they try to blurry the line between DLC and mod, then charge for mods under the cover of DLC. Afterwards they can claim that due to "quality and security concerns" they'll only allow official mods.

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>>379987696
Oh god, the bottom one made me tear, fuck.

>>380000000

>>380002450
Oh I'm sorry, did I accidentally find out your corporate strategy for the next quarter?

>>379975575
>Massive success on consoles
They had to disable console mods because people were bricking their console with them.

http://www.fallout4guides.net/fallout-4-console-mods-mods-that-can-supposedly-brick-your-xbox-lets-talk-about-that/

Not a great success there, boyo

>>380002329

They can't monopolize everything right now. They'd need to take down sites like LL and the Nexus. Then they'd have to prevent you from hooking in mods they don't want/mod piracy with some kind of DRM system.

They want to ease you into it. Going all in and taking down modder's sites just when they're trying to monetize mods would backfire.

>>379994173
stick to minecraft, semi-realistic shooters and milsims from indie devs like I always do

it feels good honestly, having a wall between you and the whole industry

>>379974560
Net neutrality is going to die, anon. A battle was won by we lost the war.

>>380002575
valve employees

>>380002450
it stopped being a fallacy when they tried to implement paid mods the first time
you are dumb as fuck if you can't see they want to control your game experience entirely

>>380002686
We are reaching retardation levels not known to humankind, what the fuck are they even thinking by implementing the shit that divided the community AGAIN?

>>380002838
They wouldn't need to take them down. All they need is DRM with an integrity checker at startup. Once legitimate owners can't use nexus copies anymore, nexus isn't relevant to bethesda anymore.

>>380003021
I assume it's something along the lines of "if you can't jew them now, try again a little more subtle".

>>380003035
>modders and crackers are an oddly dedicated bunch throws something like that at them, and they won't stop until it's smashed to bits.

>>380002838
Didn't Doom have Denuvo?
I think Todd is already experimenting around with DRM.

>>380003287
Modders and crackers are also irrelevant in terms of force of numbers. Bethesda isn't concerned with them, the crackers and pirates aren't their customers anyways. They care about the millions who purchase anything Todd shits out, and those aren't smart enough to even apply a crack, or to know that it exists.

>>380003035

I'm saying this is all unnecessary. Skyrim is already 6 years old. They'll save the more extreme stuff for a future game.

>>379989014
Spot the retarded libertarian (I know, redundancy) who can't fathom that somethings are not amenable to a market solution!

>>380003481
Skyrim, yes, but not FO4. I don't know how the modding scene for that looks like, or does it even exist?

>>380003464
The casual person also isn't into mods, either. But those that are, are usually smart enough to figure out how to patch/install tricky mods--and let's be honest, if the barrier to the modding scene was just a tad higher, would it really be all that bad?

>>380003950
The casual person is into DLC, just push the mods into their face alongsite the DLC, as "fan created DLC" or something. Done.

>>379994173
pirate the mods or dedicate my free time to making free shit until im eventually sued for illegally stealing potential mod ideas from AAA publishers

>>380002970
>you are dumb as fuck if you can't see they want to control your game experience entirely
If they wanted that then they wouldn't even release modding tools in the first place.

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>>379989014
>I support free association except when I don't make money off of it.

>>380004639
Modding tools are a relic, a holdover from yesteryear when devs actually released them for free for people to enjoy.
Have you seriously stopped and wondered why the fuck Bethesda is the only company at this point that still gives their tools to the customer to use? No one else does that anymore. It used to be very common.

>>380004639
don't come crying to me when you're getting fucked in the ass even more than you are now, sheep

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>>379994173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2jzDa3p-JE

IT'LL BE A NEW GOLDEN AGE, BOYO!

>>380005795
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY

YOU ARE A PIRATE

>>379972131
we all knew this day would come eventually, we just have to respond the same way we did last time.

>>379994173

If your game requires mods to play then it's not a good game.

That said aside from WoW I don't use mods.

>>379994173
Live under the system, of course. Do you actually think people have power against the elite? If big business wants something to happen, it's gonna fucking happen.

>>379972131
>micro transactions in a 6 year old game
Why

>>380005969
>Not posting the Kino version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMhfbLRoGEw

>>379975575
>there is nothing i can do about it
>implying implications
i can and will pirate both the games and the mods

I've bought all my bethesda games despite them being horribly coded buggy as fuck messes simply because despite all that you could at least mod the fuck out of them and have enough fun out of it to be worth the money. That's over though, I'm just going to pirate it from now on.

>>379972131
At first I was a bit skeptical about the whole Creation Club announcement but when I read through their official website, it seems like this is a way for them to try to white people because white genocide exists and the white race is being destroyed by the jews and improve mods and make them better.

They will have quality control, collaboration between the game devs and the mod authors and a bunch of other procedures and guidelines.

I can't wait for the exciting new hang all niggers mods that will come out from this system. Its gonna bring polish and better integration for mods as a whole.

I am really excited.

>>380006234
>paid mods are successful merely by console profits
>b-but I'll vote with my wallet by pirating the PC version!

Like I said, nothing you can do about it.

>>380005021
>the fuck Bethesda is the only company at this point that still gives their tools to the customer to use?

That's not true. Firaxis and Paradox does. Firaxis even paid the LW developers and helped them polish up LW2 (which is still free).

Lack of modder support has more to do with games that were for PC mostly being sold on console. Even Bethesda games make the majority of their profits on consoles.

>>380007763
>M-MUH CONSOLES
Consoles have existed the 90's.
So did publishers releasing modding tools.
Stop using that as an excuse for everything.

>entitled /v/ermin demanding people to put in their time and effort to make something FOR FREE

Lmao, retards

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This is the end, isn't it lads?

>>379972131
TES VI RELEASED!
>Creation Kit now costs $30
>There will be paid DLC for the Creation Kit
>CK can only be used to create Creation Club mods

>>380008836
Also, a DRM'd "Assured Quality" environment for the game that will prevent any third party modifications that haven't been approved by Bethesda.

Why? Because all those loli bestiality mods really hurt their brand, that's why.

>>379981951
>dude net neutrality is like, so important to keep the evil ISPs from like, raising our internet prices, and stuff
I like the internet and all, but idiots like these are really, REALLY making it hard to take this particular issue seriously.

>>380009321
Fucking normies.

>>379989014
if people really wanted to support mods, they would donate money to the moder. todd is just trying to cut in the market and steal they profits.

>>379972131
yeah, if this is true, fuck em.

>>379972131
blackfax when?

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>>379976846

>>380003657
FO4 modding Community is dead. no one wanted to work on that shit Engine.

>>380011656
This. The only mods for it on the plebus and LoversLab are guns and body presets.

>tfw 10 years since gurren lagann aired
>tfw there will never be a better anime

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>>379984060
>They themselves call it 'mods'
>You pay money for credits for said 'mods'
>not paid mods

They're paid mods.

>>380012747
They're not paid mods. They are more so mini-expansions because Bethesda is actually making them official content.

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>>380012747
You're paying for the credits, not mods.

Checkmate, fuckboi.

>>380013293
See this anon gets it. They're mini-expansions that look, work, and behave identical to mods! And you aren't paying-! You're exchanging currency for a product through a streamlined process of bartering!

There's a lot of advantages this implementation has over the Steam version, but that is not the hill to die on.

>>380013293
>Bethesda takes user content made in their engine
>gives it it's own store area
>official content

No

>>380013293
they're paid mods.

>>380013293

And how many mods rely on edging the line (or just jumping right over it) on copyright infringement, something that Bethesda has a history of cracking down in their own content. And now they will have control of others works through this system? They will shutdown a great number of projects before they can get off the floor.

>>380007654
But that's not all you said, you also said
>therefore it's here to stay even on PC since money is being produced

>>379972131
>Jan 2018 version update for SKSE only 10$

>>380013293
>Paid mods
>Mini expansions
>micro dlc
all just euphemisms for "we are milking your wallet and you are dumb enough to think this would benefit the modding community and not just our bank account"

>>380014050
SKSE won't follow this shit.

Right now, I don't think the environment will change much at all. Skyrim's pretty much done. They'll make some spare change on the switch, that's it.

I think they're mostly trying to introduce the system in a deliberately dead environment, so everyone can get used to it where it can't do much harm anymore, and then introduce it as "that's how it's been for a long time" in the next TES.

>bethesda helped out the skse devs for skyrim
>special edition rolls around
>refuse to help in making skse64
>basically tell modder to fuck off
>modder is hard at work but its really painful work because code obfuscation and bethesdas refusal to help
>seemed illogical half a year ago
>now makes perfect sense
>consoles cant have cool mods so pc doesnt get them either in the future
>in fact no one will get free mods anymore at all in any future fallout or elder scrolls game

>>380013708
>>380013709
>>380013757
>>380014270

Again, you guys are ignoring the fact that Bethesda is not just putting a sticker price on them. They're actually taking some of the really good mods and putting them through their own development process and only then releasing them. That is why they are "official."

>>380014806
They're "curating", i.e. they agree to take them at all.
They're "polishing and localizing", i.e. they probably won't do dick.
They're doing "Quality Assurance", i.e. they probably introduce additional bugs, knowing bethesdas track record.
They're not doing shit. Actual work would be way too expensive.

>>380014806
>They're actually taking some of the really good mods and putting them through their own development process and only then releasing them.
So they are basically cherry picking the best mods and putting a price tag on them?

>>380014954
fuck bethesda and fuck zenimax

>>380014685
THIS
At first it doesn't make sense why SKSE64 is in limbo and it's release was constantly getting shifted forward to the point it was basically "whenever we feel like it"; or that no betas/early versions were released like for every script extender before it.

>>380014954
not him but yes, i recognized many highquality mods in there quick showcase

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>>379972131

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>>380014806
>the company that develops a shitty unfinished game is taking the mods that fix their bullshit game and putting said mods through their own development

You've given me a new perspective; this is worse than I previously thought.

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>>379975575
I won't cry for yesterday. Shame to see things turned out like this though.

>>380014685
>>380014685
>>380014685
>>380014685

>>380013996
Yes and I said you can't stop it
You then said you'd simply pirate it which only avoids the situation rather than stopping it since it will succeed with or without the PC buying paid mods.

won't bother playing anymore of their games anyways because I just highly highly doubt they will release a game with as robust porn mod support as Skyrim, and lets be honest, unless it was written by obsidian, theres no other reason to play a bethesda game

>>380015886
>I just highly highly doubt they will release a game with as robust porn mod support as Skyrim
Well yeah, those frameworks require script extenders and ways to add new animations, and thanks to paid mods both are never going to happen anymore.

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Only way for bethshit to save this is to make credits free, which in addition would make for a fun little store minigame.

>>380014806
THEY. ARE. PAID. MODS.

>>380017710
Then "paid DLC" are "paid mods" too and you guys look ridiculous.

>>380018021
Bethesda makes it = DLC
Someone else makes it = Mod

Is that so hard to get?

>>380018021
Wow, you're slow.
Do you know what DLC fucking stands for?
Yes, all mods are DLC.

>>380018387
>>380018415

Bethesda is putting it through their own dev cycle. How is that not relevant? Obviously we need to distinguish between what Bethesda is doing here and "paid mods" as they are generally thought. These are not "mods" in the traditional sense which are by definition unofficial.

>>379988693
I almost bought one in high school
I bought a ninja 250 instead.

>>380017601
Paid mods are ok if I can grind for credits or buy credits if I'm a whale.

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>>379989014
mfw we will be payed to download mods. God bless the free market

>>380018681
>Bethesda is putting it through their own dev cycle.
They're approving and putting it through their QA, and we all know the bethesda QA.

>>379989014
>free market
>forces people to distribute through a single platform that essentially taxes mod mod makers for using it.

>>380014806
They said they're putting their "polish" on them. Which I find pretty funny considering they produce unpolished work.
I can't wait to pay for the "unofficial" patch made for my paid mod

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You know...I cant remember what it was like when DLC was new. was it this bad? how far will we get jewed until they stop fucking us over

If any one can up load any mod at the start that may happen.
We all need to flood the mod page with shit like MLP, Futa, rape, loli rape, shota rape, horse rape and every thing else we can find the moment it comes out before they put blocks up.

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>>379972131
>consoles
it will work too because people will buy it anyway.

my room mate bought fucking skyrim remaster for xbox one when he had a fully modded version on his PC that looks way the fuck better, and he said he would buy mods on console if he could.

his reason for buying remaster is that "he likes using a controller" even though he uses steam controller for every game on PC.

>mfw he wasted $60 for literally no fucking reason

>>380019460
Nope. They've learned their lesson, and hardened themselves against the most glaring issues of the last run.

>>380019198
I remember I was honestly excited by the prospect. I thought, "neat, if I like Game I can pay some more money and get a little more Game"
I was naive

>>380018681
I don't care about your stupid definitions.
They're paid mods.
the hoops you're jumping through are stupid and of your own design.
You'd think Bethesda was paying you the way you act you pathetic sad fanboy.

>>379984060
stop using insulting words shill or I will report you to your handler

literally free money for them it was fuckin obvious

>>380019840
yeah and its a shit genre with the worst user base

they basically deserve it

>>379994524
this this this

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the worst thing is, it'll probably work

>>380019793
...and you're a hateboy, so we're even. Anyone looking at this objectively wold give Bethesda a chance, especially since they specifically acknowledged the concerns people have about "paid mods." We're not talking about EA or Activision here. Todd Howard memes aside, they do not have a reputation of screwing gamers over and their games are full of content.

>>380020510
>they do not have a reputation of screwing gamers over
They didn't until their previous attempt at paid mods. That burned through their goodwill fund. Fallout 4 didn't exactly refill it.