Ace Combat 7 Thread

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>Osea (the "good" guys)
remember hoffnung

>>379943743
>I also hope they don't fuck up the PC version again.

When has Project Aces fucked up a PC port? The only PC port they've ever done was Assault Horizon and that port was amazing. Can't say the same about the game tho.

>almost confirmed we main Erusea
>we bomb everything from ISAF, Belka, to Osea
What went wrong?

>>379944886
I feel like you missed the launch

>someone was allowed to repair Stonehenge
It's like Useans don't learn from their mistakes or somethi- oh...

>>379945617
But stonehenge is still destroyed in the trailer, they're just using the next door airbase for AI shenanigans

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>>379943743
>hope there's some references to Ace 5
There was a statement from someone working on the game posted in a thread a few days ago saying that there would specifically be things in the game that fans of 5 would enjoy.

>>379945816
You can see it being used to destroy satellites at 1:13.

>>379943743

What? The Kestral 2 is clearly the Osean carrier the attack was launched from.

>>379945213
Grey Men are orchestrating international war to allow AC3's corporatocracy to rise.

>>379946163
Listen closer:
>their aircraft carrier and the Kestral 2 warship.
>and
Two seperate things.

>>379946439
I wanted to see at least one of these ships but the map was playing

>>379946439

"From their aircraft carrier and the Kestrel 2 warship" still means that both are owned by Osea.

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>>379946163
>>379946439

>>379946724
Internal War confirmed?

>>379946743

It's saying that Osea attacked using the Kestrel II in addition to an aircraft carrier, not that they attacked a ship called the Kestrel II.

>>379947184
I don't understand what you are getting at. Who said that the kestrel was attacked? I was merely backing up that other anon who said that the trailer clearly states that both an aircraft carrier and the Kestrel II attacked Farbanti which implies that the Kestrel II is something special and not just another carrier.

>>379947725

Read the OP again.

>I heard a reference to a "Kestrel 2" and it seems to take action against Osea (the "good" guys)

>playing as osea again
>Stonehenge is working and shooting down satellites
>A ship is called the Kestrel II
>Laser pods on nonfictional planes
>that scientist and the old man are probably working for the gray men
>They probably instigated the war between erusea and osea
>We're probably going back to farbanti and Nord belka
Belka did nothing wrong

>people think osea is the bad guys
>believing propaganda spouted by some idealistic princess who doesn't know shit about anything
wew lad

Could anyone give me a relatively brief history lesson on what happened since like Ace Combat 5? I'm outta the loop

>>379949568
I think it's more that the player is flying planes with Osean identification painted over with the three strikes implying that Oseans are the bad guys and we defect to Erusea at some point, presumably after the Oseans kill a bunch of civilians.

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>>379949568
remember

>>379946064
That pretty much confirms it's going to be mediocre then.

>>379949568
The stripes anon.

>>379949967
Hoffnung wasn't even that big a deal. Did you just play Zero recently? After the initial bombing, Belkan forces withdrew from the city and abandoned the civilians to perish in the fires.

>>379950803
So you're saying that the Oseans bombing the shit out of civilians is somehow Belka's fault?

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>>379946439
>>379946163
The script in this trailer is screwed up. Remember that the the princess says the Oseans killed civilians "remorsefully" when it should be remorselessly

>Thinly veiled Anti-american jap bullshit
>When their country doesn't even accept rapefugees at all
really makes you think

>>379951320
Malapropism moe?

Why does everybody want a rehash of AC5's plot?

>>379950954
>war factories are located in a city
>complains that civilians died in the bombing of the factories after they were abandoned by a Belkan army pull out
>all this 'membering because you could hear crispy fried belkans on the radio

>a few missions later and they nuke themselves 7 times
There are a lot of things to remember in the Belkan war.

>>379951479
What the fuck are you going on about?

>weebshit top gun

no thanks

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>>379951479

>>379951479
>When /pol/ projects too hard

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>>379951870

Didn't they already do the "Osea is secretly part of the bad guys lol" plot in Ace Combat 5

>>379951668
Lot of people thought 5 had a good plot.

>>379952512
5 was just geopolitics with some autists sperging out about borders in the corner.

>>379943743
Su-25 please!

>>379952697
I just disliked the amount of squad chatter in AC5
If they kept similar to AC4 it would be even better then it already is.

>>379952819

All the "muh borders" stuff is in Zero.

>>379951668
5's war was the most interesting. The characters were shit but the war was the best

>4
dude ribbon lmao cruise control to farbanti

>zero
dude demon lord lmao cruise control to belka

>6
dude galm lmao cruise control to gracemeria

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>>379951695
did you even play the mission? because the belkan military is still there trying to defend the factories.

>>379953170
>dude galm
Galm was Zero

Talisman was 6

>>379953168
>>379953170
sly, is that you? i know you have a wiki page to shit up but not ace/v/

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>>379953279
Not quite. They left and burned everything. You can even search the acecombat wiki.

>>379953340
The unit was Garuda. Talisman was the pilot's call sign.

>>379952697
And they're wrong.

>>379954203
No they aren't. 5 had a great story. It was the perfect amount of over the top cheese.

>>379954171
Shamrock didn't do jack shit, it was basically Talisman

>>379954374
I remember the story to be fun and entertaining to play. I believe I played one of the missions on the day it happened back in 2010 or 2011

>>379954374
>Nice kill Nagase!
>Don't you wish the skies could be peaceful?

Not to mention the conspiracy stuff was incredibly weak.

>>379954374

All the whining about peace (these are fighter pilots, meaning they're officers who had to go to a military academy, not draftee infantrymen) ruins it.

But regardless of whether you like it or not, do we really want another game where Belka is pulling the strings of two countries again? Why not something original?

>>379954481
>Shamrock didn't do jack shi

WRONG

>MARCUS! MARCUUUUUUUSSSSSS

>>379954008
i dont remember belkans retreating in game. also, in game > wiki page. probably sly edited it

>>379954743
Because the alternative is another "Lol I guess this side's military and government is just evil for no good reason" shit like Ace Combat 6

>>379954374
Same. Zero actually has the worst story. It almost doesn't exist apart from some interviews where the shut down pilots reveal all but nothing.
Knowing you will get a cutscene after defeating an ace unit also ruins suspense. It was so bad at times I almost fell asleep.

>>379954617
>>379954743
The dialogue between the wingmen was weak I'll grant you that but the overall plot was amazing and it really tied the missions together nicley.

>>379949568
>There are Belkan sympathizers ITT

OSEA/EMERIA STRONG

>>379955221
more like
>SlyCooperFan is here trying to brainwash ace/v/ with osean dick
ftfy

>>379951668
>>379952697
Thing is AC5 was the most immersive (due to squad chatter, ability to respond, player having a small growth story etc) game of the PS2 trilogy. That alone makes you appreciate it's plot more than in the other games, even if it wasn't the best.
Although thanks to it's length advantage compared to 04 and Zero, the twists weren't as obvious as in those too which helps as well.

>>379955317
Got the image macro of him? I remember it being rather funny.

>>379954879
You're just really biased towards Belka. A lot of the annoying fires you see in that mission are self inflicted.

See. I checked. Timestamp 10:00 minutes in.
https://youtu.be/eOT9reUQDbg?t=598

>>379956104
>Turn it to ashes! That's not enough! Drop more bombs!

hmmm

>>379956273
>Pixy
><< The Belkans are setting fire to their own... >>
What if I told you that you should hate the Belkans too? And that you should stop being so blind when I already provided gameplay footage.

>"Allied Bomber" speaker means Osea
Stop your hate boner anon Zero isn't all that good since you need to play the same missions three times.

>>379956104
and yet reinforcements came in as super hornets plus stealth and an ace pilot

Is infinity worth a play?

How are the ps2 ones emulated these days?

>>379957173
5 and zero emulate well. 4 is still broken on hardware mode as far as I am aware.

>>379956017
>length advantage

That's not a good thing. AC5 is too long and has too many filler/gimmick missions.

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>>379949967
>>379944828
>>379950803

6 MILLION BELKANS NOT ENOUGH
BELKAN / ERUSEAN GENOCIDE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE

Fuck them. I hope the campaign is from the Osean perspective.

>>379957515
hi slycooperfan

>>379957448
>too long

yes, I too prefer cinematic experiences

>>379957728

Then I'm sure flying an unarmed trainer for 15 minutes is right up your alley.

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>ace combat thread on /v/

feelsgud

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>>379957448
Nigga it was clearly an advantage with the plot. The more time you have to tell a story, the easier it is to hide the twists. 04 and Zero are suffering from the opposite, badly. 5 also had the best level design of the trilogy so I don't know what you're talking about with filler/gimmick.

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>>379958059
ace combat threads are holy until
Su-47 > F-22

>>379957440
any tips friend? i got zero to work well, but 5 if i'm over anything thats not water the fps drops to 3

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>>379954903
But the Estovakians had a reason to do what they did. They even tell you one of the reasons in the very first mission. Their country got fucked up by Ulysses, and despite help from other nations their economy never really recovered. Years of internal strife and rule at the hands of what amounted to competing warlords gave way to a military junta, and later the war.

Sure, it's a boring reason and very similar to the motivation Belka had in 0 (except for the fact that nobody tried to take Estovakia's land so it paints them in a worse light), but it's a sane one. And I'd prefer that over shadow plots that cause two world superpowers to go to war with each other and "The 8492nd squadron doesn't exist!" Regardless I think 7 will lean closer to the latter than the former, but we'll see.

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>>379958059
>Fresh AC memes

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>>379958381
I can't into emulating so I just did what the guy in this video did and both zero and 5 run decently enough. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv_zb9NLjEY

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>>379958354
F-4 > all

Belka did nothing wrong. Everyone must face the V2 for the rest of the world must suffer

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>>379958584
Yo buddy, you still a good boy?

Anyone else feel that Belka and pro-Zero posters are just like Nagase with a different skin?

Like Hoffnung poster. In the mission Inferno, Pixy and PJ are very upset that the allies are bombing the factories and Belkans are setting fire to the buildings, whle both were disregarding civilian lives.
So Pixy starts his defection because he wants to achieve muh peace in his own way.

Literally just a double standard. In fact all three Golden Trilogy game have a peace message. And all three have a symbol of peace that betrays its original purpose. Stonehenge for 4, Arkbird for 5, and the mission itself for Zero. Its why there are no true bad people in Ace Combat except for the mega corps.
Play 3 and X for a different message.

>>379958328
>Four Horsemen
>Final Option
>Desert Lightning
>lit fuse
>8492nd
>desert arrow
>desert lightning
the list goes on

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>>379943743
>Osea
>good guys

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>>379958616

>>379958807
sly pls. dont you have a wiki page to fuck up?

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>>379958827
See the fact that you're bitching about Four Horseman tells me a lot of things.

>>379959040
Sorry mate. I provided you a youtube like and a wiki page for that shit mission.
I don't know anyone name sly.

If even the game betrays your beliefs you Zero fags really are fucked in the heads.

>>379958827
I don't get it, why are you listing the best missions?

>>379958328
No, it isn't. You could easily remove a dozen missions and still be fine. Several missions only serve as a vehicle for the (bad) dialog between wingmen. Then you have missions with excessive amounts of downtime on top of the poorly executed gimmick missions (coordinated strike on radar bases, anti-gas attack bombing, spy plane, ect).

>>379958827
>he can't shoot down all the enemies in 8492

>desert arrow/lightning

those types of missions are the backbone of 04

Is seems from the trailer that Erusea is the aggressor and Osea is responding to it. Btw most of the shots show the player fighting that old man's su

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>>379956104
>Priority is placed on destruction over accuracy
hmmmm

>>379959265
>he doesnt know why sly the autist is
im not even those people you listed but holy shit, i bet you only played 5 and thats it. i just came here just now

>>379958594
i'll definitely try it out, thanks a ton my dude :)

>>379951479
it's just acecombat

u could even say they had anti russian stuff with ac6 but who cares it's a fake universe

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>>379959471
tfw took an A-10 into the Fortress

>>379959625
I played 2, 3 in the 90s on a PS1.
I played 4, 5, and Zero in the 2000s on a PS2.
I played X and Joint Assault on PSP.
I played Infinity and did the fuel shit.

Keep moving the goalpost.
>you don't share my hatred for this fictional country you're not a true fan
What a shitter.

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>>379959702
I took an f35

>Burn Osea to the ground
>Princess crying because Osea is supposedly doing the same to their country
nice double standard Eruseacucks, sounds like sour grapes from the losing side

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>>379959471
i did shoot them all down with an F-4

>>379959471
04 had a return line that let you restock your ammo.

Meanwhile in 5 you can run out of ammo in those missions even with perfect accuracy.

>>379960072
>blowing your wad early
>not being ready for a counter attack

You deserved to lose

>>379959965
>waaah why does this guy doesnt share the same thought as i do in zero!?!?
anon pls, i dont know you are either sly or those AC5fags in ACS. most people already concluded that AC0 > AC4 > AC5 here. your the only one here who wants to swap the tier list

>>379960043
>Burn Osea to the ground
That was the mechanic though, not the qt princess.

>>379960072
The only time I every came close to completely running out of ammo in 5 was Journey Home, which I think was intended as it certainly made that mission a lot better.

>>379951695
They bombed fucking everything. It wasn't a precision mission to take out military facilities

>>379960557
The princess is acting like the victim even though she's the aggressor

>>379960861
>declaring war first makes you the agressor

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>>379960861

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>>379960861
Have you played the game anon? Do you know something we don't?

>>379960773
They bombed the Capital. Probably to force an early end to the war because most of the Erusean government leaders would be gone
>>379960962
>>379960997
>>379961049
Does it say why she has. Most Ace Combat trailers have been very clear on whose attacking who

>>379960962
Yes, that is generally how it works

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>>379961049
Yes
THE DOG IS BEHIND IT ALL

>>379960537
Nobody mentioned tiers retard. You have a hateboner for everything 5 and are going to sabotage Ace Combat 7 for others because of your memeing on how Osea is bad.

>but this guy called sly
I showed you the gameplay for that mission. I don't know anyone named sly.
>but the allied bomber
Ignoring that Belkans set fire to every building that wasn't bombed.
>but muh tiers and zero circlejerk who cause the fans of other games of the series to leave
Even the developer doesn't agree with you. "Fans of 5 will be pleased."

>but you're wrong because I still have my angst
Fuuuuack off.

>>379961305
but in this case, its not

>>379958354
Why are Ace Combat threads so much better than the majority of /v/ threads?

>>379961376
How so? Because judging from the trailer was doing nothing and Erusea just declared war for no reason

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>>379961340
then again, hello

>>379961181
>Does it say why she has. Most Ace Combat trailers have been very clear on whose attacking who

The trailer says that the cause of the war is ambiguous with both sides being partly to blame.

>>379961305
You're that kid that did the "I'm not touching you" thing and then cried to your parents/teacher when you got a fist in your nose

>>379961376
The only thing we see in the trailer is Erusea declaring war and then a lot of idealistic drivel from the losing side about how Osea is raping their shit

Would be a lot more sympathetic if they weren't the aggressors

MUH IDEALS
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>>379962017
Is Erusea the new Belka

>>379961840
/vg/ is cancer.

>>379959651

INITIATING STAUROUS LOADING

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Soon

>>379959651
Ac6 is more like the Balkans or baltics

>>379962532
Sly isnt /vg/. ge's from ACS and acepedia

>still enough time before release for AMD to release non-shit drivers so I can play the PS2 trilogy without slowdown
I have hope for the future.

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>>379962532
to be fair, only a few threads on /vg/ are alright. i go to /aceg/

>>379962847
I don't even know what ACS is. But I use acepedia to look up Infinity plane specs. Otherwise I never go there. This thread is the first time I've seen the name sly. Because I had to search for Hoffnung.

I would want to buy Ace Combat 7 one day, but I shouldn't have bothered to give (you)s to that anon when it didn't even form constructive discussion. I don't even know why I bothered.

>>379964097
almost forgot, he's also from /r/acecombat

>>379962467
No, because the main characters will be on their side so they will win.

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>>379964559
So all this time I was responding to a guy who goes to reddit. How else would he know about that guy? I need some time alone now.

I like what they showed in the trailer in the OP. Back to Strangereal baby!

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>>379943743
3000 hour in paint. Any suggestions for making it better? I might put the bottom of >>379958354
in it.

>>379949568

REEEEE

UPHOLD THE MONARCHY

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REMINDER TO PLAY ACX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqG4nYj9gTc

Just beat AC4 for the first time, are the rest of the games as short?

>>379966157
>No, AC5 is nearly twice as long, and ACZ is about in between (but is the most replayable)

>>379966308
Didn't mean to quote that

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>>379943743
>Stonehenge
>Kestrel 2

...this might be the only game I want.

>>379944886
Assault Horizon port was Qloc, people who know how to port games.
But yeah, when was there any PC port of UE4 game that was fucked up?

>>379966723

Only game I care for so far at E3

>>379966308
Cool thanks. I liked the game, but 3 hours was pretty damn short.

GUYS QUICK

SHOULD I EMULATE THE OLDER ACE COMBATS OR BUY THEM FOR THE PS2?

>>379949810
The small neutral country of Nordennavic is revealed to have a top secret air force squadron that apparently has been intervening in wars worldwide since the Usean Continental War.

Estokavia goes to war with their neighbor Emmeria in 2015 after years of economic decline after landfall of Ulysses. They use a flying aircraft carrier with cruise missiles to get the upperhand in a surprise attack. Later they use a giant railgun larger than a Stonehenge turret.

Civil war breaks out in Leasath, then they attack their neighbors Aurelia in 2020 with a flying fortress that uses a shockwave weapon, synchrotron laser cannons and a plane with optical camouflage and mounted microwave beams. Takes place the same year as 7. The whole point of this war was developing and testing new military technology. A Neucom Delphinus prototype appears for the first time.

>>379967705
ALL OF THE ABOVE

>>379967705
They dont emulate well so PS2

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Shattered Skies > Belkan War > Unsung War

So, are Rafales confirmed flyable in this game? Just interested.

>>379967747

GO DANCE WITH ANGELS MISTER

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>>379967747
>optical camouflaged flying fortress
>with tendy cooking rays
>rock music is the weapon
>lasers

What in the Star Trek fuckin Star Wars Disney universe did this series turn into?

>>379967969

Absolutely correct.

>>379943743
Farbanti is the big city you fight over near the end of AC4. 2nd to last mission iirc.

>>379967969
Mobius wasn't nearly as cool of a power fantasy as the other two though, I can't not take points off for that

>>379969082
Jean-louis please go and stay go you're not fooling anyone

>>379969082

What are you talking about, Mobius 1 invented that shit and did it better than everyone else.

"I don't care if it's a lie, tell the troops that's Mobius 1 up there!" is a line of dialogue from that game.

I really liked how one of the first things your AWAC's says in 4 is "Its my birthday today, a victory sure would be nice." And that's also one of the last things he says in the final mission. Really helps let you know how long the war lasted.

>>379970329
SkyEye a best

>>379969082
Mobius One is much better as a power fantasy though. In AC4 the enemy forces are cool dudes, and the main antagonist is the coolest dude and has a lot of buildup so you feel great when you finally beat him. In AC5 the enemies are all retards and losers so beating them is just boring. AC0 starts off fighting cool dudes but then halfway through switches the plot turns stupid so it's not cool either.
I'd rather be the guy who triumphs over cool dudes than the guy who beats up morons. If they're going to be like that they may as well go the whole way like in AC6 and make the enemy a total joke. 5/0 don't go as far as 6 so it's just kinda sad.

>>379970329
My favorite AWACS is till Eagle Eye, his voice reminds me of Bryan Cranston, and he does bro stuff like offering to buy you a drink from a bar he likes in the city you liberate, also praying for you during the final mission

>>379971123
Pixy is cooler than anything ac4 has to offer, and Morgan is pure sex

>>379971123
The amount of protagonist dicksucking in Mayhem is so good though

I was going to say nobody brings up Ace Combat 6 but then I remembered literally every enemy in that game was a huge fucking jobber + some irrelevant zombies who managed to survive AC5's belka purge

>>379971123
>enemies in 04 are cool
>just roll over and take it in the ass the whole game despite MUH ELITE SQUADRON and MUH SUPERWEAPON

>>379972473
>I-its over, we've won-

>>379972608
C'mon anon, that's literally every ace combat to date

>>379958882
Every time I look at an F-16 all I can see is a retarded porpoise

>>379972473
I almost believe they were trying to make the enemy in 6 bad on purpose. I mean, the game starts with the enemy invading, but then you beat the shit out of them while joking about it. They only manage to take over your city by deploying their superweapon, and even then you shoot down their ace squadron before running away. And then they try to loot things, except they fail because somehow a bunch of children managed to hide all the valuable stuff (including the fucking massive statue) before they could get there. The game's barely started and they're already incredibly huge fuckups. It's like a parody.

>>379943743
I hope stuff from Ace Combat X makes it in. If I remember correctly, it also takes place in 2020.

>>379968410
That's Electrosphere baby

>>379975176
NEMESIS

>>379977125
I'VE HEARD ENOUGH OF YOUR TALL TALES FOR ONE LIFETIME

In the final mission are we flying up the space elevator or are we flying down it?

>>379978815

tangentially

>>379978815
we're destroying it

>>379978815
Both.

>>379978815
Maybe second to last mission is a space dogfight like in Electrosphere and the final mission is flying down to Earth down the space elevator and destroying chunks of it as it falls apart.

KILL ALL ERUSIANS NOW

Anyone else notice the dog doesn't move AT ALL from 1:01 - 1:04 in the trailer?

>>379971123
And let's not forget:

>You're not going to believe this, Jean-Louis. All of them have ribbon insignias!

The enemy slowly coming to fear Mobius one was one of the highlights of the game, and Megalith is the mission the rest of the series has been living up to for me in terms of that kind of hype.

Shattered Skies story stands out for me because of the lack of focus on the war itself, but instead on the Narrator's childhood as a war orphan who befriends Yellow 13. The entire lore part of the game getting related through his letters to Mobius One, as revealed at the end, kept things more grounded. It was just a big continental war with a Super weapon or two intervening and about the rivalry between two pilots who never truly met in person. It had the tone of the "war sucks" moral, but it wasn't as bizarrely preachy and ridiculous as 5. The narration relating the daily life of the occupied town and Yellow Squadron did a much better job giving that sort of feeling to the game.

The actual game is still ridiculous with railgun AA artillery, Mobius One almost single-handedly winning the war, and the whole "fly into the missile silo" thing, but the story as presented was nice and constrained. Just a war story about pilots.

>>379980715
yeah it looks like a placeholder image

>>379980715
There's some kind of shaky filter over the top so it looks like the dog is moving a little unless you are really focusing on it.