Why does Microsoft even bother?

You forgot
>Brought out a fucking car again

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Seriously guys, the price is not bad at all, we are talking about a major powerhouse here.

I will preorder mine asap. Can't wait to try it out. PS4 eternally BTFO

Just about all of their games are coming to PC.

Literally no reason to own an Xbox.

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>All those games coming to PC.
Thanks for the games Bonedogs

>>379918442
>console '''''''power'''''''
the concept itself is so fucking stupid

>>379918884
Literally all their games are coming to PC.

Just microsoft published titles are exclusive to the Windows 10 store which is seriously a dumpster fire.

>>379917969
>That fucking name

Is it truly that hard to name a console?

>>379919572
Does it really matter?

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>>379917969
I seriously regret buying an xbox one. Microsoft has really lost their way.

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>>379917969
>the new Bioware game is just another open world destiny game
Not a single game I was interested in.

>>379919572
Just name it "Xbox One Pro". That's a far more effective name than "Xbox One X".

People are going to be seeing the Xbox One S and the Xbox One X and are going to be confused as to why one is 300 dollars more than the other one. Calling it the Pro would eliminate 90% of confusion.

>>379918442
There's no point in a powerhouse if none of the games take advantage of it.

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>>379920947
but you can play this

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>>379921334
and this

>>379917969
Do you understand now why chasing hardware improvements instead of gameplay innovation is a pointless endeavor?

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>>379917969
You literally covered everything, now just mention how bad Anthem looks and you've got my exact reaction.

I get why people fanboy Sony and Nintendo so hard, but why the fuck would you ever fanboy Microsoft in the year of our Lord 2017 of all years?
It's the shittiest rung.

>>379920143
If you're childish enough to ask, you probably just accidentally get another Xbox One for christmas if you want the Xbox One X because your grandma mixed the two up.

Lol.

>>379917969
Found the drone, Xbox one x is going to destroy the switch this year
tfw Xbox one x sells better than the kiketendo tablet

>>379920656
Pretty much this. Its the Wii U all over again.

>>379921686
but this was one of the few games that looked awesome

it's like lego rock raiders the game (not the rts one)

>>379919237
And yet has been the chief arguing point for console fans since consoles came out.

>>379924858
Well back in the 80s consoles were generally better at playing games than PCs.

>>379917969
man if you think any of these games shown will run half as well on a ps4 pro you're nuts, all those 4k 60fps updates looked great

>>379917969
>with games that could run at almost identical settings at on the fucking Nintendo Switch
Reminder: Snake Pass on switch is some arcane sub-600p resolution and at below 30fps.

>>379917969
Pizza is supposed to be greasy and Ramsey literally has no idea how to make most food.

>>379925126
Even between other console fans

>muh bits
>muh blast processing
>muh SuperFX
>muh sound chip
>muh 32X
>muh bits again

>>379917969
I'd honestly sell my XBONE but I'm not sure who'd buy at this point.

>>379925485
T.fatty

>>379925646
I always find it a bit amusing (and tragic) that the 32X was made because Sega genuinely thought the Jaguar was a threat.

>>379925827
Base PS4's and XB1's are worth jack shit 2nd hand already and have been for over a year now.

That was a fucking disaster. The only things I were interested in were multiplats. The few "exclusives" were SHOOTER SHOOTER SHOOTER SHOOTER SHOOTER SHOOTER as far as the eye could see.

>>379926312
as someone who loves shooters, it was great for me

>>379925485
>pizza is supposed to be greasy

What cheap shitty pizza have you been eating?

>>379920656

They thought they were fucking clever because X Box One X can be abbreviated to XBOX, but nobody's gonna fucking call it that.

>>379926219
Well great.

>>379924858
Power doesn't matter that much for consoles. Just look at how good the exclusives look on the playstation from optimization and polishing. Microsoft is really missing the point. They shot themselves in the foot in the 2015 E3 reveal with NO USED GAMES so they could nickle and dime their consumers even harder it was embarrassing. Theyre doing it again when they think having a strong console is going to do anything for them

>>379926462
This.
Pizza doesn't have to be greazy to be good, you disgusting fuck.

>>379926687
>2015 E3
You mean 2013? And wether or not it actually matters is basically irrelevant. All "normies" want is pure specs numbers they can scream at each other even if they don't know what they mean. When someone doesn't know what the fuck these numbers mean, they'll go for the one with the highest numbers since they feel they're getting a better deal. It's how it's always worked and how it probably always will.

>>379917969
Microsoft doesn't realize that the ONLY selling point of modern consoles is exclusives. Consoles are no longer "pick up and play" machines, there's too many bullshit inconveniences now. If you just put everything on Windows 10 there's no point in buying an Xbone. Might as well drop the Xbox brand and invest everything in PC.

>>379926563
>From the same team that thought people were seriously going to call their console "The One"

>>379917969
Xbox one X? I hope that's a name you came up with and not the actual fucking name

>>379917969
What's wrong with the 'za?

IMO, Xbone X works while Wii U didn't because the Xbone X is still an Xbone, while the Wii U was not just a Wii.

Still a pretty shitty conference, only thing I'd actually want to play was Super Lucky's Tale.

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>>379920303

I feel the same

>>379927638
>Microsoft doesn't realize that the ONLY selling point of modern consoles is exclusives

For people who are moderately informed. For the average consumer its specs, even if they don't understand them.

To the average person "higher number = better". They'll plaster 4K all over this thing and spout off every spec they have thats better than PS4 Pro. People want the thingy with higher numbers.

I sell electronics and I see it every single day

>This camera has more megapixels so it must be better, Ill take it
>The CPU in this phone has a higher clockspeed so it must be faster
>I don't have any 4K media whatsoever but I'll take this 4K TV because it has a higher number for its resolution


Microsoft have already been doing it because they know thats what dazzles the average joe. They've been spouting muh "6 TFLOPS" ever since they revealed that basic info even though TFlops by themselves are basically meaningless as a way to judge power.

>>379921686
>>379921334
Both are coming to PC so Yes.

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What were the worst parts of the presentation?

For me it was revealing a car that pretty much no one watching can ever even hope to buy, the guy pretending to do live and super hype commentary for the random battle royal game and spending an absurd amount of time on that pirate game.

>Make a new console
>Call it the Wii U
>Never show the console, only the Gamepad
>Be surprised when nobody buys that shit

>Make an updated console that works exactly like the old one including all accessories, only more powerful
>Your audience isnt comprised of autistic manchildren or literal toddlers so there isnt any confusion when you call it the Xbox One X, as there wasnt any confusion when they released the Xbox One S

*thinking*

>>379920656
>>379923517
>People are going to be seeing the Xbox One S and the Xbox One X and are going to be confused as to why one is 300 dollars more than the other one.
>People will be confused why the new console costs more
>hurr its the wii u again

See
>>379929284

>>379927791
You really thought the company that called their third system the Xbox One would come up with a non stupid name this time?

>4k
>4k
>4k
>4k
>4k

I know literally no one who has a 4k TV or even wants one. They're banking on a market that mostly doesn't even exist yet.

>>379929284
>Work at Gamestop part time during college
>Wii U launches
>A dozen times a day this happens
>"This game wont work on my Wii"
>"Because this is a Wii U game"
>"I don't want to buy that stupid tablet I just want to play this game"
>Have to explain to them its an entirely different console

>>379929865
HDTV's were pretty rare when 360 launched but it didnt' stop them going "HD! HD! HD!" Gamers bought them for their consoles which caused the price to drop which in turn caused average people to buy them once they dropped in price.

>>379917969
Unrelated to the topic, what is with the resurgence in Ramsay posting?

>>379930327
My guess is that it's to combat all that dog whisperer posting.

>>379930186
The difference is in 2008 or whatever HD TVs were a huge leap from CRTs. A 4k TV isn't that big a jump from a 1080p, and most people still have relatively new 1080s they won't want to abandon just yet.

>>379929284
>Your audience isnt comprised of autistic manchildren or literal toddlers so there isnt any confusion when you call it the Xbox One X, as there wasnt any confusion when they released the Xbox One S
In what way does "X" indicate less power than "S?" If you saw both on the shelf and didn't know anything about the specs, how would you even begin to know what the difference is? Is the "X" different than the Xbox One you just bought a few years ago? Is it better? How much better is the "S" than the "X?" Is it a new console? Are either of them a new console? "X" could mean "extra," so it must be better, right?

>>379923316
>Found the drone
So you looked in a mirror?

>>379920143
Ask Nintendo.

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>>379917969
It was a fucking disaster. Not a single interesting game beyond a few PC indie titles. I fucking hope Sony has better stuff to show.

>>379930805
>most people still have relatively new 1080s they won't want to abandon just yet
This. I don't really know a single person that has a 4k TV yet, let alone a PC monitor with 4k. And then there's the HDR shit that is the new cool stuff that literally NOBODY has.

>>379930805
HDTV's were mostly twice the resolution of SDTV's. As 1080p TV's were ludicrously expensive and very rare.

4K is 4 times the jump for most peoples TV's and 4K TV's are already beginning to be cheaper than HDTV's in 2005 when the 360 launched. TV's tend to be an investment, people want it to be relevent for the next 5+ years so you'd be surprised how many average people are going to go for 4K displays when choosing their next main TV. Secondary bedroom TVs? Sure they'll still be the bargain basement $150 HDTV

>>379930929
Slim=S, which has been a pretty standard naming convention since the PS2.
X in this situation quite literally does mean extra, so I'm not sure why you think that's a problem. It's more honest than the scorpio which implys a whole new console.

>>379929865
>>379930186
>>379930805
>>379931632
>>379931737
My ex's dad had a 4k tv. He was the kind of guy who had to have the newest, most expensive everything because he grew up dirt poor (would go buy a new vacuum cleaner every time a new model came out, often less than a year after getting his previous one). He didn't game, just watched Fox News literally all day. That's the only kind of person that owns a 4k tv.

>>379917969
Why are companies so obsessed with their systems instead of making a potato that runs a literal cocksucking rainbow farting baldness curing exclusive?

That's literally all they need to do...

>>379932031
>The Xbox One X is slimmer than the S

>>379932316
When HDTVs first started coming out, people were buying them on the assumption that all their TV was now somehow magically in 720p

>>379932316
Yeah, and on the other side of the coin you have people like my parents who are going to use their old gen 1080p TV until it literally dies and can't be repaired.

And then there's me who's definitely NOT going to just go out and pay shitload of money for a 4k gaming monitor when I bought a 1080p decent one not so long ago.

I really want decent 1080p graphics, I don't fucking care for 4k. It takes too much GPU power anyway.

>>379932520
Because they saw you can sell 50 million units without having to put any effort into games thanks to sony, so they want to copy that.

>>379932875
I have a 1080 and shitty Comcast will still only broadcast to me in 720. They keep saying it's not their fault, I only have a 720p TV, and I know that's bullshit.

>Xbox One S
>Xbox One X

>X and S sound very similar verbally

I feel sorry for the retail workers who will have to deal with this shit.

Almost "NEW Nintendo 3DS" tier.

>>379933428
Now they just need an Xbox One Elite

>>379933428
Yeah, the name is legitimately dumb as fuck and I still can't believe they'd do it to their BEST console. Why not just call it a fucking Xbox Scorpio? Or Xbox One 4k? Literally anything would do.

>>379933968
>Xbox One 4k
They shot themselves in the foot (in another way) by naming it the Xbox One since saying "eks bawks one four kay" sounds retarded, but this is probably the most sensible name they could've gone with for clarity.

So what are we calling this beast? I liked someone's suggestion of Box Ox but it doesn't really work.

>>379934282
They did but it's also dumb that they're trying to continue the One series. Why not Xbox Two?

>>379929146
E
S
P
O
R
T
S

The cringe went through the fucking roof and into the fucking stratosphere.

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Why dont they just call Xbox one XL Slim?

>>379934793
Xbox One Elite

>>379918442
>real powerhouse
>500 dollars
Your mom know you're gay?

>>379934608
Because calling it the Xbox Two would probably create more confusion since it sounds even more like a new generation of console. They are basically tied to the "Xbox One" name until they are ready for a new full generation, same reason why we have shit like the "New 3DS XL."

>>379934793
They should have called it the Xbox One R. What's more clear than the distinction between the Xbone and the Xbone-er?

>>379935236
There won't be a new generation though. We're confined to this weird situation where MS, Sony and Ninny release their shit regardless of the competition.

>>379931632
The only people I know with 4k TVs are film officianados and even then they barely own anything in the way of 4k video content.

99% of video content out there is made targeted at 1080p right now. There's no compelling reason to buy 4k.

>>379934282
>not the Xbox One Elite
I mean they already have Xbox Live Elite and its basically just the same idea as the PS4 Pro. A whole lot better than Xbox One X.

>>379935584
Probably for the best, since one console always ends up severely under-baked due to rushing out the door to not fall behind. I'm curious if any of them will try the "moddable" console concept again since we're basically at the point where shelling out $400+ for an entire new console just doesn't make sense given how little each one improves over the last. I hope we aren't just stuck in an endless cycle of full-priced half-generational updates every few years.

>>379936114
>elite
>pro
I sincerely hate how Microsoft and Sony haven't realized how annoying terms like these are.

>>379936376
I agree. Its problematic as it implies and perpetuates the systemic divide we experience in a capitalist society and denigrates those who aren't in the Pro or Elite class as inferior.

>>379936190
>I hope we aren't just stuck in an endless cycle of full-priced half-generational updates every few years.
I'm afraid we are, anon. When 360 and PS3 came out they were legitimately the most powerful gaming devices out there.

The most powerful console as of now - the Xbone X is actually kinda mid-range, pretty much as PS4 was in 2013.

>>379936376
There's obviously a significant enough sub-section of their audience that eats that shit up though, that's the problem.

>>379936660
Mid-range in what sense? Genuinely interested.

>>379936660
>they were legitimately the most powerful gaming devices out there
Except PCs existed back then

So Xbox One X is literally the Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan of video game consoles?

>>379936376
>>379936621
Thats literally the reason why they name the consoles as such. It encourages the have-nots to buy the new console so they can be part of the cool kids club.

>>379937085
The GPU that rivalled the 360 cost the same as the 360 when it launched. 360 launched with brand new rendering techniques that literally didn't exist on Windows until Microsoft ported them and made them part of the DirectX10 standard for Windows.

>>379936975
The new Xbone is literally RX480 tier powerful. And you can get the RX480 realitively cheap. I did.

>>379937085
360 and PS3 were more powerful than PCs at the time. Sure, PCs got to there very quickly but still...

>>379937401
Anon, 360 was DX9...

It simply had a decent GPU and a very good CPU.

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>>379937085

>>379937771
360 used a heavily modified version of DirectX, the new features were eventually ported to DX10 for Windows.

Also it was the GPU that was its strongest part, the CPU was mediocre and devs were claiming to have maximised its potential inside of 2 years.

>>379925485
I love American food but it is poison.

>>379937952
>360 used a heavily modified version of DirectX, the new features were eventually ported to DX10 for Windows.
Nope. It was 100% DX9.

And yeah, 360 had a great GPU while PS3 had a great CPU. Kinda funny how the games were practically identical on both.

>>379930186
>>Have to explain to them its an entirely different console
This is why it'll be a different situation, though. As of right now, there are no games (or accessories) that won't work on the original Xbone, because it's the same console, unlike with the Wii U.

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>>379936025
Most people change TVs every 5 or so years. Currently all the TVs you find in the store are 4k.

Was 4chan this deluded when HD flatscreens came out last gen? I remember in the early 360 days people complaining about small letters on their CRTs.

>>379922674
I was excited for anthem for 10 seconds.

>look at this world
>all these people doing real life stuff
>I can't wait to get lost here

>o-oh wait, you leave it all immediately and enter an over saturated empty "open world" with hidden walls and 95% of it completely skippable
>oh, a destiny ripoff


Really when the demo is saying skip this part of the world it isn't worth showing to you, that is when you I lose interest in exploring your world.

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>>379938792
>100% DX9
Uh what? That's not what ATI said back then,the other guy was correct,it's a very heavily modified version of DX9 with some DX10-11 features.

https://www.engadget.com/2006/08/24/xbox-360-cant-run-directx-10-confirms-ati/

>>379939596
>Currently all the TVs you find in the store are 4k.

Well this is just untrue.

>>379939778
I can't really prove it but back in the day when I was into unpacking 360 games, I read a lot on how it only ran DX9. And didn't really have DX10 features. It was the main issue with the 360 - it couldn't run DX10.

>>379939940
With horrendous input lag.

>>379939596
>I remember in the early 360 days people complaining about small letters on their CRTs.
Playing through FFXIII on my old family tv from the early 00's made that game a fucking nightmare. Even moreso.

>>379940164
It couldn't run the full feature set of DX10. However several of the features in DX10 were features created and ported over from the 360's modified DX9 version.

The 360's DX version may as well have been DX9.5

Worst confrence this gen

>>379940549
>The 360's DX version may as well have been DX9.5
Fair enough, you might actually be right. I remember seeing something like that.

>>379917969
Which episide of Kitchen Nightmares I'd that? I wanna rewatch.

>>379940803
Denver pizza or something

>>379941106
Thanks niBBa

>>379939940
Oh I'm sure you can find an old 1080 set somewhere in a big store at the back.

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>>379940345
>Get 360 at launch
>Try playing Dead Rising on my SDTV

>>379917969
So, why are you this defensive and frightened if everything MS has put together is so shitty to you?

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>games coming to PC
>but only on Windows 10

Is it really "non-exclusive" if one version requires malware on your computer?

>>379928780
>PC
*Windows 10. Unless I can play it on my Windows 7 PC.

>>379940803
I only just discovered that show like a week ago, and I've been binging like fucking crazy. Chef Ramsay is a fucking god.

>>379921334
>Top fucking kek.

>>379917969
Was it just me or were there some serious fps drops going on in some games? That shit looked disgusting.

>>379919206
>Everytime there's less exclusives
Truly a glorious time to be a mustard.

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>>379920303
>bought xbone to play games with friends
>games get stale
>R* updates game
>still sucks
>buy PS4 for a handful of singleplayer games
>have more fun on my own than with anyone else
When did you realize that singleplayer games are the best, and friendship is overrated (excluding a handful of PC games)

>>379917969
they were mostly indie hipster 2D Humble Bundle worthy shit

>>379942067
Isn't only MS funded games on Win10? I think indie stuff will still be on Steam.

>>379942150
Yeah thats one issue that sucks. I don't see why they want to push people that hard off of old OS's

>>379920303
>>379928468

cancelling scalebound killed it for me. i honestly was considering buying the console for it.

>>379942217
>I only just discovered that show like a week ago
Where have you fucking been for the past ten years? Seriously what is up with Ramsay's sudden popularity lately? Where did this come from?

>>379942515
you buy alot of useless shit anon

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>>379919206
Post yfw when you realize that Win10 is still MS and the "PC" games are still MS exclusives that Sony doesn't have.

MS truly won.

>>379942641
They want everyone on their ecosystem. They want your data, they want you added to their numbers and they're willing to make all their games available on both platforms to get people to that shit. It's why all the shitposting about "Exclusives" is laughable at best. Microsoft doesn't care, they want you using their shit and giving them all your sweet data. I'm sure the people who have xboners don't care either. They still get the games and the games are still exclusive to the family of systems they're in.

Man I love this salt mine

Xbox Won

>>379917969
>majority of them are indie shit that was already coming/on the PC or a 3 year old dead MMO


uhh no fuck off only 4 games were xbox exclusive

its cuphead crackdown forza and state of decay

the rest were @ "launch" exclusive

there are on ps4 too

>>379920656
S = Small to Americans.
X = Xtreme rad cool

They'll get it.

>>379942641
WIndows 7 doesn't have a M$ store app built into it.

IT'S RAWWWW

Anyone got a link to the conference? I missed it.

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>>379941829

>>379944117
www.nothing.com

>>379943287
cuphead is coming to windows 10 the same day as xbonex. Did you not research?

>>379945062
im only taking about console noone gives a sit about pc

>>379917969


Why are you so salty? are you a secret sony shill console baiting? Most of the games looked awesome, some looked like shit. But most looked pretty cool with some of the smaller indie games that are new refreshing IPs.

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>>379925485
>Ramsey literally has no idea how to make most food

>>379946065
Not to mention he bitches at owners when he finds frozen food in their kitchens but was shown to serve frozen food at his restaurants too. He's a total hypocrite and in it for the fame only.

>he didn't go into the announcements looking for the games to play on his PC in the next 2 years

That's where you went wrong.

>>379946747
There's literally nothing wrong with freezing food.

>>379947342
There is when you act like some anti-frozen crusader and turn around and do it yourself.

>>379920656
X = Xtra large like a big juicy burger

S = Small like a tiny box of fries

It makes perfect sense.

>>379923316
Yes, but only because Nintendo has no idea how to keep a console stocked and is fighting for parts against Apple.

>>379917969
Xbox is just for Halo and its legacy and everything else is going to be meh by comparison.

>>379917969
microsoft is over after today i've been on every gaming site and everyone is saying it the xbone x looks like shit all the games are indie shit anthem looks awful and everyone knows it will be a huge let down

i'm glad microsoft is finally dead once they leave and nintendo gos third party gaming will get back on track with sony running the show.

>>379939778
It was 100% Dx9-likeish

the fact that some effects (that were later part of the Dx10 API) were possible with the X360 gpu doesn't mean it was Dx10 compliant, we are talking about some really minor bullshit.
As for Dx11, the 360 gpu could do absolutely nothing remotely similar