>$499

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>>379917062
no idiot its $500 for the X not the S

F

>>379917062

SONY LOST

>>379917062
>499 and no games
Do they really have no devs to make excusive games?

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>>379917062
they just killed the xbox for the rest of this console cycle

wp phil

>almost 700 leaf bucks
Fuck this country

>$671.55 Canadian

Yeah, no thank you.

>>379917062

pcmr here, but thats the One S which is $250, the One X is $499.

inb4 consolefags

>>379917275


You were never interested.

>>379917062
500 dollars to play an original xbox game and some indies that I could also just play on pc
no thanks

It's totally worth it for life is lesbians 2.

>>379917518
So glad I built my PC this year for the same price.

so there must be a catch right? 4k and 60 fps for $500

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seriously guys the price is not that bad

i will preorder mine asap, seriously guys you don't wanna miss out on this one its gonna be great.

Seriously though, why the price tag? Microsoft are one of the richest companies in the world and much richer than Sony, $399 would have demolished the PS4 Pro. Why wouldn't they take that hit?

>>379917818
Have fun playing unoptimised AAA ports

[Spoiler] i built a meme pc and dont even play it [/spoiler]

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It's $100 too cheap if you ask me

>>379917062
0 GAMES

Are we going to just ignore the PS3 blunder?

sonyga/v/ is BTFO so hard with this console.

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>>379917848
>60fps

Can buy a vega or 1080 for that, if it were cheaper I could see buying it as a 4k blu player

No poor people allowed.

>>379917848

It's a lie

>PS4 Pro = $399
>Xbox One X = $499

BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY

>>379917736

Wait, it plays OG xbox games?


PICKED UP
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Everyone who thought it was going to be $400 and sell like hotcakes is a fucking idiot. MS wasn't going to let the Xbox division dip that much into their revenue to sell it at THAT much of a loss.

>>379918138
Haven't had any issues playing games at 1440p/60fps besides the rare broken port which people know about day-1 anyways.

If Xbone X/PS4 Pro mandated 60fps, sure, I'd probably consider it more. Instead they're just going to be 25-30fps "dynamic resolution 4K" bs instead.

>>379917062
Is that hole technology?

>>379918138
You must hate video games then. There's quite literally hudnreds of thousands of games at your fingertips on PC, from the latest AAA garbage to emulating an Atari 2600. Literally the only thing you're missing out on are console exclusives, and the Xbone doesn't have any apart from Gaylo.

>>379918138
>spend 4 digits on pc
>dont even play anything on it except games that could run on a $150 console
honestly dont buy into any of the pc gaming memes just build the cheapest shit possible

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>half a grand to be able to play vidya

>>379918081
They're retards. They'll lower it to $399 after its first few months of zero sales. It's the OG Xbox One all over again

>>379918297
/v/ is sonybros
As long as sony does it they don't care.

What's the problem? I make $500 in like an hour.

Try not being poor, poorfags.

>>379918407
It seems to really be those $100 better though.

>>379917848
It will be just like the pro very few true 4k and instead of 1440p upscaled it will be 1800p

>>379917704
It was their job to make people interested.
Too bad they fucked that up.

>>379917062
>500 dollarydoos to play nothing but shitty indie trash and vapid, empty cinematics

Wow, it's almost like I'm playing a PC!

>>379918407
Better console costs a little more money. WOW NO WAY

>>379918452
They announced they're working on OG backwards compatibility for later this year.

They only announced Crimson Skies for now though.

>>379918329
He said it, have you been watching?

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>>379918714

>>379918798
>>379919012
>better
>zero exclusives

SOLD

>$500
Which translates to $1k to most markets outside murica. Dead in the fucking water with just a couple true exclusives

>>379919426
consoles of the future won't have exclusives, they will just be another platform to play their yuge library of games

>>379919316
we were richer back then

Why do they call it the Xbox One X?

Because when you see the price, you'll X it out of your thoughts.

>>379919426
90% of games in the charts are meme multiplats. All people care about is "muh graffix" on their Cowadoody Battlefifa games

>>379919316
That didn't work back then either.

>>379919601
>Xbox One library
>huge

kek

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do i have to buy a new xbox like the 3ds xl or is the xbox one compatible with the xbox one x games

>>379919778
Yes it did, it managed to outsell the 360 literally every single year it was released. Even during its first year when it had "no gaems".

>>379919209
Only certain games. Like Forza. Most will be 4k30

>>379920014
No you don't understand, I'm not talking about platform exclusive libraries.

>>379917848
nowhere did they say that 60fps is representative of the platform
it can run indies and racing games at 60fps
that's not saying much

>>379919209
For one particular game, Forza. if you think 60fps will be common place at 4k with those specs then I feel sorry for you

>>379919316

Yes and guess what? IT FLOPPED.

It wasnt until there was a price reduction like 5 years later when it started picking up. But the initial price killed the PS3.

The Xbox One X will be one of those consoles only a few people will have, while most will have the vanilla one.

>>379919112

If it can play outrun 2 and jsrf well then im sold

>>379920042
It took a major price drop and a Slim revision for PS3 to start crawling itself out of the hole it dug itself.

>>379917062
>>379918997
>Be Australian
>$499 USD = $662AUD
>Add on our shitty 10% GST tax
>$728 AUD for a 4k Blu-ray player

I guess thats a no from me then.

>>379920634
>4k Blu-ray player
The One S can do that.

>>379918249
dead meme

>>379917848

lol. A 1080 costs $500 and it can barely play the newest games @ 4k/60fps. It was nice of them to pretend though.

They essentially made the DSi of consoles.

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>>379919587
Microsoft doesn't care about black and brown people.

>>379920504
>>379920593
>flopped
>It took a major price drop and a Slim revision for PS3 to start crawling itself out of the hole it dug itself.

Yet it managed to outsell the 360 every single year. PS3 won last gen, its pure numbers.

>>379918407
Its like relaunch all over again. Except this time xbox has better specs, but its too late in the game to fix that.

>>379917062
I'm getting one. Let's face it. Microsoft fucking won.

>>379920042
>Yes it did, it managed to outsell the 360 literally every single year it was released. Even during its first year when it had "no gaems".

Holy shit, no. I'm a Sonybro but even I can't say this is true because it's not. The 360 killed the PS3 because of two reasons:
1. It came out before the PS3 so it built a userbase before Sony could
2. The PS3 was way overpriced. Nobody wanted to pay $600 for a damn console

I still remember the PS3 reveal conference. As soon as Sony said FIVE HUNDRED NINETY-NINE U.S. DOLLARS *nobody* clapped or made any noise. Nobody could believe that shit.

YUROPOORS BTFO

>buying consoles

Just buy a fucking PC

>>379919012
better hardware*

>>379921012
native 4k/60 isn't the only type though
like why are we still pretending upscaling isn't a thing
and that upscaling hasn't worked successfully in games this past year?

>>379917062
They should've given it a new name and pushed the idea that it was a next generation console. The average consumer isn't going to pay 500 fucking dollars for what seems to be just an update of an existing console. Not to mention the fact that a large number of people don't even have 4k TVs.

>>379919601
yes they will.
nintendo and sony understand this, which is why they protect their IPs.
the only way for consoles to stay alive is to release exclusives
otherwise PC would easily trample everything else

>>379918081
>seriously though, why is one of the largest companies in the world trying to maximize profits during a product launch window?

this is why you flip burgers at mcdonalds

can't wait for the shills to damage control out of their asses every day until its over

>>379917848
every game they showed was native 4k so it's got that going for it at least. most people are disappointing at current ps4 pro resolutions and support

>>379921012
It can play them at 4k/60fps. Just not maxed.

Expect a lot of 'medium' settings on 4K XboneX games and obvious pop-in.

>>379920419
I already play 4k@60 fps so dont feel sorry for me friend.

I was just wondering if the £1500+ I spent was just annihilated by a £500 console

>>379917062
People were bitching when PS3 price was announced

>>379921213
>console launch exclusives

>>379921496
>yes they will.
>nintendo and sony understand this, which is why they protect their IPs.
You mean like putting PS Now on multiple devices? You mean like creating iOS/Android games that use their IPs?

Face reality, gaming is moving away from platform exclusivity. It's anti-gamer anyways so stop defending that shit.

>>379919316
1.21x inflation since 2006, so that would be 600USD and 725USD in today's dollars

>>379921886
That Shadow of War game looked like it was on low-medium settings.

Maybe I just make too much money at my job but do poor people really make decisions based on which console is $100 cheaper?

Like if $100 is that big of a deal to you maybe you shouldn't be buying video games anyway because you probably need that for rent or something

>>379917062
EXCLUSIVE on xbox*

*also on windows 10

>>379918081
MS has generally found high initial price point followed by aggressive pricing tactic (= low prices) after a while to be a success.

>>379921468

We're talking about true 3840x2160 rendering with HDR/High quality textures & FX. It can't be done with 6teraflop computing power. The games would have to be low-medium settings at most for their claim to be true.

>>379921623
Sometimes companies take a hit on profit because they're thinking long term goals, obviously you're the one flipping burgers at McDonald since you have zero business sense and lack strategic thinking. 0/10 would not hire

they are marketing the 4k hard and to the kind of people who can buy 4k tvs $500 is nothing

>>379921160
>PS3 won last gen, its pure numbers.
wasn't that the wii?

>>379918336
One S is a 4k blu ray player, among the cheapest ones on the markets actually.

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>>379921160
>Yet it managed to outsell the 360 every single year.

Not true. That didnt start happening until like 2010 or so.

>PS3 won last gen, its pure numbers.

To me, yes it did. It won overall but there is no denying that the 360 killed it on the first half of the gen.

It was a tortoise vs hare kind of thing. It ended up winning but it had a massive disadvantage at first.

>>379922176
I couldn't tell since I have to stream at 480p on my shit internet. It just looked like a more colourful Shadow of Mordor with better facial animations to me.

I expected it and i'm still disappointed. I know they're not trying to compete with the pro anymore since it's basically been swept under the rug, but I'm still just disappointed in MS. $500 is too steep, nobody is going to be willing to pay that. I get that's why they went with the whole "xbox one family" shit but that adds to it even further. If none of the shit is exclusive to scorpio, why would anyone EVER buy one?

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>omg $400 for a shitty ps4pro that upgrades nothing, it's not worth it, just a cashgrab
>omg $500 for shitty xboxXXXX it's too good and has actual upgrades but costs too much

t average consumder

>>379922186
And later on PS4, since it is only a console launch exclusive.

>>379921292
2007 (first complete year PS3 was out)
PS3 - 8.7M
360 - 7.3M

2008
PS3 - 10.8M
360 - 10.8M

2009
PS3 - 12.4M
360 - 10.2M

2010
PS3 - 12.1M
360 - 14.4M

2011
PS3 - 14.1M
360 - 14.9M (360's best year)

Yeah man, look at 360 spanking PS3.

>>379922182
>do poor people really make decisions based on which console is $100 cheaper?

yes. Also, no one will buy it because it's more expensive and hardly has any exclusives compared to a PS4.

It's DOA

WORLD PREMIERE 4K EXCLUSIVE DIVERSE IN GAME FOOTAGE

>>379922314
Launch at $500, drop to $400 after 4Q because 1) it's going to sell out regardless during holiday season and now you're making 25% more per unit and 2) once it drops in price people will perceive they're getting a better deal even if it was only ever worth $400 to begin with

seriously dude, don't start with me. i work in marking for a $50 million company

>>379922182
Most gamers are poor, yes. Even a $60 game is way too much for them.

>>379922257
Right, which they are, they have been running on highly custom medium settings for a very long time now. Hence all the "optimization".

>>379922182

It's not about being $100 more, it's more about "how much money for a videogame machine is too much?"

To me, more than $400 is too much for videogames.

>>379922630
Some of the textures on the orc actually look like 480p funny enough.

>>379922848
>Also, no one will buy it because
>hardly has any exclusives compared to a PS4.
Reminder: no PS4 exclusives were within the top 10 most purchased PS4 games last year.

>>379922182
>maybe I just make too much money

No you still live with your parents so you have plenty more than others cause they don't depend on other people.

500 bucks for a system that has no real exclusives. kek

>>379922091
>ps now and pokemon go are equivalent to bloodborne and botw
>capitalism is anti-market
ok faggot

>>379923095
Exclusives are what drive purchase of a system, not what sells when people have it, in the case of ps4/xbone.

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>>379922182
>360 wins because $100 cheaper
>ps4 wins because $100 cheaper

yup

>>379923095
what about this year?

>>379922574
this.

>>379918452
damm I'll hava to buy an xbox just to play DOA Ultimate and DOA 3

will it have online too?

>>379923250

Does my PC count as a console? :(((

>PS4 Pro launches at $400
>only does 4k on a few games
>most of those upscaled
>most games run at 1440p native or 1800p upscaled
>CPU such a bottleneck that it still can't push 1080p/60fps on most games

>Xbone X is going to launch for $500
>actually does 4k
>CPU isn't much stronger than PS4 Pro's, but MS reduced draw calls greatly, freeing up a lot more power for processing

I think the extra $100 is worth it. Between the GPU being much stronger than the Pro's, and the CPU being a bit stronger and having almost 50% of it's power freed from just doing draw calls, I think it'll do pretty well at 4k

>>379922379
But that's the thing, most people don't have 4k TVs. The fact that none of the games will be exclusive to the Xbox one X doesn't help it's case either. Why would anyone spend 500 dollars to get a console that plays the exact same games as the cheaper consoles that are already available? I could understand if 4k TVs were the standard, but they're not. This console is fucked.

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>>379917062
>$499
>499 EUR
>THE GOYS WILL NEVER NOTICE

>>379918991
>implying you can make people convert to Xbox or Switch if they haven't already

>>379918297
>getting so angry you have to bring up a discontinued console

>>379923629
>CPU isn't much stronger

Which means 60fps is unlikely on any games that only do 30fps on base Xbox anyway.

>>379923301
Protectionism != capitalism. Capitalism is great, your inbred corporatist ass isn't.
Literally mafia tier, forcing devs to sign shitty contracts just so you can shill out hardware is cancerous.
PS Now allows you to play all PS3 exclusives, with the original intention that they would expand to other platforms. That's a pretty damning case against exclusivity when they aren't all that exclusive anymore.
But whatever, stay delusional to the future because for some reason you love sucking that corporate cock.

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FOUR HUNDRED NINETY NINE US DOLLARS

>>379923629
>I think the extra $100 is worth it

That's great that you think like that, but normies don't. They want whatever is cheapest and most popular.

>>379922182
I sell used games on ebay. A two dollars difference on a 30 dollar game can mean the difference between it being sold quick or it going unsold for months.

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>>379923629
>actually does 4k

point and laugh

>people want 60fps and 4k but at the same time want it to be cheap

Good luck with that

>>379917062
>5 (cinco) mil reais
HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>379922741
>Counting Europoor.

>>379923629
I don't think anyone is debating that the X1X is a better console based on specs. But this is the same as last gen.

PS3 is a superior console to the 360 based on specs but it failed because it didn't have exclusives and was more expensive.

>>379923691
People claim 4k stuff looks good on 1080p tvs too. Dunno if that's that big of a difference. But whatever I'm still comfyguy with 1080p because it really hasn't been that long that I've had a decent 1080p tv.

>>379918452
Still waiting on Dead Rising and Vanquish. Not too interesting in Xbox B/C, unless that means online play is coming back.

>>379918740
Thats funny because everyone made fun of sony back than.

its normal to pay 1k for a phone in new zealand a $700 console is fine

>>379917518
>thinks that is a lot
try brasil leaf

>>379924206
>Hey if you don't count Sony's 2nd largest market then the numbers are less than Xbox!

>xboxox

>>379924341
I got some good news about Vanquish buddy, for a small fee you can now play it on the superior plattform :^)

>649 didgeridollars

I was expecting worse desu, switch will set you back nearly 500

>>379924607
Those sales are in monopoly money. Compare US sales and consider PS2 US sales.

>>379921292
You forgot the fact that they shared a lot of their libraries too which was a huge advantage for the 360

>>379924910
I already have the game. I little no reason to purchase it again.
>>379924341
Add Crackdown and Tales of Vesperia to that list.

>>379924341
>not buying 60FPS Vanquish for $15
You're literally retarded.

>>379921012
Because 4k/60fps are the only settings in a game, right? Fucking retard.

>>379925481
>literally retarded for not buying the same game twice
Sure, buddy. Whatever you say.

>>379923961
I'm leaning towards that too. Having a lot of power freed up from draw calls is going to help a lot, but help enough to make 60fps feasible? Ehhh. I wouldn't hold my breath. It's still basically a really shitty FX-8350 underclocked to 2.3ghz

>>379924101
Hate to say it, but you're right. Marketing to normies is literally just a series of buzzwords and whatever is "cool." That's why Sony and MS are both pushing teraflops as THE metric of power, when it's literally just how much math it can do. The ~8.4 TFLOP Fury X got bodied by the ~5.7 980Ti in most games. Much more to performance than sheer number crunching capabilities.

>>379924175
Fair. I'm not sure how many 3rd party games we'll see at actual 4k, but I know for damn sure that number is going to be higher than what we see on the PS4 Pro. I could write a small essay on the questionable choices Sony made

>>379924215
Good point, but most people also knew that most 3rd party games looked worse on PS3. Sony's Cell architecture was powerful as hell for the time, but also a massive pain in the ass to program for. It was basically a repeat of Nintendo's mistake with the N64. Throw in the fact that system level voice chat wasn't able to be implemented due to only 256mb of RAM, and you have a losing combination.

>>379925964
>I don't like Vanquish
You having shit taste isn't my problem.

$499 AMERICAN DOLLARS TO PLAY HE GAMES YOU ALREADY OWN IN SMELLOVISION

>>379918138
>spoiler tags
Just fucking crtl+s you turd

>>379926302
>" That's why Sony and MS are both pushing teraflops as THE metric of power, when it's literally just how much math it can do

It is pretty important metric when both Sony and MS use practically the same uArc

>>379919316
>paying 100$ more for 40gb

How did they get away with this.

>>379917518
>>379917620
Get ready for that to be at least 750$ when minimum wage increases and prices of games inflate even more.

>>379926968
Fucking children need to leave this site. They obviously didn't get away with it.

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>overclock an Xbone S and put a liquid heatsink on it
>That'll be 250 dollars plus tip

>>379927114
>children

No just a pc user. Consoles never interested me.

>>379924009
Win

>>379926937
I actually didn't think about that, but that's a great point. Still, comes down to buzzwords. Teraflop advantage is easy to point to and say "LOOK, IS STRONG!" when the reality is that they could be boasting about how much more RAM games have over Pro (5GB max vs 9GB), how much faster the bandwidth is or explaining effective memory, or how the hard drive is going to be able to crank out a lot more data than the usual HDDs. That's a lot to leave out in favor of buzzwords. I get their reasoning, I just don't like it

>>379920634
it's 649AUD

>>379927302
>liquid heatsink
um excuse me that's VAPE technology.

>>379918452
So does my Xbox. Don't need to pay $499 to play them either, it's pretty sweet.

>>379917848
They're lying you dumbass
Remember E3 2013 and Xbox One's announcement?
And even if they're not who the hell in right mind would buy an merely updated console with no games?

>it's a super powerful console!
>4K 60FPS!
you have to actually have a 4K TV to get a decent use out of it and only like 5-10 games have 4K compatibility

everything they showed today works on the regular XBone at lower res, but they're asking for twice the price years into the 8th gen console cycle

Xbox users don't give a fuck about framerate and performance, they literally made a console too good for its fanbase at twice the price and only a handful of games can actually maximize it's potential AND that's assuming they have a 4K TV.

Microsoft is retarded and they deserve to lose money on this.

>>379917518
>2017
>Being canadian

You deserve all of your suffering

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time to get a job

>>379927302
>post yfw the inevitable leakage of the liquid cooler happens and fries everyones console

How much do you wanna bet this shit happens day fucking 1.

>>379920038
you don't need to upgrade, the games would just run better on the One X

>>379926968
They didn't. The PS3 sold like shit until price drops made the purchase seem sane.

>>379930005
uhh xbox users are retarded and will jump on the idea of 4k and if you tell them its not true 4k they wont believe you.

>>379924009
Damn son you're really shit at photoshop aren't you, you piece of shit,.

>>379917062
How the fuck does Microsoft keep getting away with this shit?

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>>379917848
>4k and 60 fps for $500

Why is everyone chimping out now?

Geoff leaked this like hours ago

>>379917919
fuck off shill

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>>379917919
>filename

>4K
>Likely chance all the games will be 60fps too
>Backwards compatibility with BOTH Xbox and Xbox 360
>Enhanced Xbox Original, 360 AND One games

Too bad this all goes down the drain because all the games are on Win 10 and the $499 price.

four hundred and ninety nine US dollars

>4k60fps
>TRUE 4K
yeah using the power of the cloud right? Lel

>>379931021
>if you tell them its not true 4k
Is it not?

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>The Xbox X is just an Xbox S without the HOLE TECHNOLOGY

Who thought this was a good idea? Who thought adding another slice of bread in the PS4 sandwich for the PS4 Pro was a good idea? Who keeps hiring these retards to design shitty looking consoles?

>>379927056

Thanks for reminding me. I can't wait for all of the minimum-wage jobs to be replaced with self-order screens.

>>379917062
Xbone X

My favorite part of the conference

I wonder if Microsoft will let him back

>>379932014
>Likely chance all the games will be 60fps too
You SEVERELY overestimate how most developers and publishers work. They get to decide the framerate, and they will invariably decide that 30fps with drops will be fine because that means they can use bullshots to sell more copies of the game.

Every goddamn time. This happens every fucking time. Developers will never strive for 60fps on fixed hardware. Ever.

>>379932014
for the crowd without a viable gaming pc, $500 for the XboneX is a pretty solid deal, considering the pc equivalent is easily more than double the price

>>379932695
chances are it's not. It's probably some fuckery similar to checkerboarding. That said, the actual rendering res is probably higher than 1080p at least. But even supremely optimized, it's unlikely that the specs given allow it 4k60fps gameplay.

>>379923691
Downsampling / super-sampling anti-aliasing is a thing. The extreme TL;DR is that at native resolution, there's a sample for each pixel, which makes things look more sharp and detailed if the assets are good enough (bad assets = no reason to increase res). Downsampling will give each pixel more samples, resulting in a softer, more colorful, more natural image. Downsampling from 1440p gives two samples to each pixel. Downsampling from 4k gives 4 samples to each pixel. Things aren't going to look sharper, but they'll definitely be prettier

>>379919316
I got my MGS4 80GB BC bundle for 499

>>379932014
what devs hurt you?

>>379918297
No, this is the exact same blunder. Except you can get the same system and play the same games for half price right now, so it's even dumber.

>>379918660
the same games run significantly better than on console. that's the point. also you can have hundreds of thousands of games available to play from all of gaming history. meanwhile xboxdrones shit themselves over getting access to the original xbox library