FFXIV Stormblood

>not playing every day

"We don't want FFXIV to be a game that you want to play"

Ok then.

Who here are ready to study the blade?

>>379908192
I'm ready to watch this game bleed subs.

2 more days I can't fucking wait.

>>379907992
how do people login everyday? Don't they get bored?

>about to fight Garuda

How far can I make if before SB drops? I harbor no delusions of actually finishing in time, but I wanna get as far as I can.

>>379909295
Depends on how much you play, but you could probably get to the start of Heavensward by the 16th.

>>379909295
If you nolife it maybe the end of heavensward.

>>379909295
You might get into Heavensward if you rush.

>>379909628
>>379909669
I'm off work two of the next three days so that'll help. I plan on working on it pretty much nonstop.

>>379909295
You have 100+ hours to go before you reach Stormblood. Keep playing and see to it or buy a skip boost. But be warned that if you buy a skip most people will treat you harshly.

>>379910191
>paying to skip content

Only fucking retards would do this

>>379909069
>PvP
>tomes
>leveling
>crafting
>gathering
>raiding
>pony and birb farming
>Lord of Verminion

It's funny how it works. FFXIV has a lot of stuff to do, but instead of capitalizing on that Yoshida thinks that it's better if people just treat it as just another MMO that you play for two weeks and then quit.

>>379910472
Correct. I don't get why anyone would pay to skip a game they already pay for. That would be like paying someone to spoil a movie after buying it on bluray.

>>379910472
I mean, I guess if you don't make any distinctions over quality, then yes you'd be "skipping content"

>>379909295

No chance

>>379910472
Modern MMOs are full of fucking retards who pay to skip content, get bored and then quit without doing anything significant in the game.

And then people wonder why the genre is dying.

>>379911219
>i don't like it so it's not content

>>379910472
I'd buy it for an alt to be honest.
Too bad my alt is at The Vault with my new leaf so far.

>>379911682
Your mistake is in assuming that "it's content" is an equivalent statement to "it's content that is good enough that you should want to do it".

>>379911219
I've experienced plenty of fetch quests in my day; what's a few more? Besides, this game is set up to be almost as much of a JRPG as it is an MMO, and the plot is the majority of the reason to play those.

>shitposting about jump potions again
We've already had this discussion many times. Fuck off.

>BDO on XBOXS
No wonder there was so much shilling for it in XIV threads, besides the discount on Steam.

>>379913312
>s-stop making fun of me for paying to skip content guys ;_;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onYgFHqyob8

xd

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xRoronoa' Batoussai'x: KIRISTE... GOMENASAI...
Kill me
I'm on Chaos and this is going to be unbearable

>>379913807
At least they have good taste in anime samurai.

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>>379913923
>wanpiss
Nope.

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>>379907217

>We don't want to make content

So, I'm at level 47, and I've been rubbing my face through PotD to level. Any other ways to go about it? Story quests pick back up at 49, right?

Anyone have a source for Lore being the only old tomestone in SB? Thinking about capping lore and just letting it convert to poetics for 260 gear.

>>379914542
Use your leveling roulette. There are also a bunch of sidequest chains that opened up in the back room of the Waking Sands that everyone misses.

Wait are you fucking kidding me? This game is add level boosts too?

>>379914074
>yaoi hands.

>>379914570
for poetics being the only tomestone, I mean. I'm stupid

>>379914570
>>379914867
It was said during the last live letter, but I don't have a timestamp or anything.

>>379914542

Anon, they increased the exp from Main quest, how are you only level 47?

You should be ahead of your level always in main quest in vanilla

>>379913070
I mean, that's cool if you enjoy it and everything, I'm not going to shit on anyone for having fun with something they like.

I just think it's kind of disingenuous to pretend that there's something incorrect about NOT feeling that way, or that playing through the four year old ARR main story is somehow integral to enjoying the current, most recent content, when FFXIV is explicitly designed as the sort of MMO where there's only a thin band of the most recent content that can really be considered "current" while all the older stuff pretty much gets folded into a mostly-inactive archive of legacy content.

I don't know if I'd really be able to bring myself to PAY to skip it, but I absolutely would prefer if the game let you select whether you wanted to start at the beginning of 2.0, the beginning of 2.1, the beginning of 3.0, the beginning of 3.1, or jump right into the beginning of 4.0, once you've already bought SB and it launches.

>>379913312
Hope you never get into one of my groups, shitter. I'm kicking jump potters the instant I see them.

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>>379908437
kay

Reminder that wow is so desperate that they scheduled their next raid specifically on the same day as stormbloods release.

>>379915724
WoW always did this, and not just with FFXIV.

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Final Fantasy 14: Stormblood in a nutshell ~Meanwhile on the melee DPS side~

>>379915629
You're pretty retarded if that's what you think that comment means.

>>379916392
Once again I have cut a worthless object...

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2004: we need to add lockouts and gates so guild leaders don't force their members to play the whole day

201X: we need to add lockouts to mask the fact that our game has no content

>>379910472
BUT MUH ENDGAME. MUH RAIDING!!! IT IS THE ONLY THIG THERE IS! MUST BE MAX LEVEL 5 MINUTES AFTER CREATING A CHARACTER

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>>379916950
WTF WHERE'S THE CONTENT THIS GAME SUCKS

When's the LL?

>>379917528
FUCK THIS GAME SUUUUCKS. ALSO THE STORY TELLING IS SHIT I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE.

>>379916392
Might as well have a BRD playing the world's smalles fiddle while a MCH blows their brain out in the background.

>>379916392
I can't fucking wait when reality sets in and SAMfags are finally BTFO

>>379912002
>>379910472
They said it themselves during the live letter, it's really only intended for people who are already players and not newbies, like for making an alt.
Something about having to go though 300+ quests that puts people off from making an alt. (even though they encourage you to use the subscription option that allows up to eight characters on a world, I don't know who would be masochistic enough to do this anyway though)

How autistic are people who want dailies?
MMOs are fine even better if you don't fall behind by not logging everyday and doing some dumb ass dailies.

>>379918857
>it's really only intended for people who are already players and not newbies
If such was the case then they'd lock it to accounts that already finished the game

But of course it isn't

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>>379916726
Goddamn it Anon.

>>379919321
>If such was the case then they'd lock it to accounts that already finished the game
>But of course it isn't
Why would they so no to more money?

Hey guys, instead of bitching about whm maybe you should listen what people that know what they're doing, such as Miunih, have to say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L42N_gc_-zI&feature=youtu.be

>>379919321
Newbies are far less likely to shell out $25-50 additional dollars for a game they aren't sure they'll play for a long time, especially when you can get a big chunk of the skippable experience free.

And back to XIV. Anthem looked neat tho.

>>379919997
>YuruYuri picture
I hate people.

>>379919997
Fuck off.

>>379919997
XIV youtube community is absolute cancer.

>>379919997
Miunih has never known a fucking thing in his life and we all know it

Can someone who plays AST give Me some pointers as to how to play in 'serious' content?

So far I've only been doing POTD/Dungeons and I've been in the damage/regen sect, pretty much only healing with the emergency heal and an occasional aspected benefic.

As for cards I've just been fishing for Balance, holding it until I get extended/enhanced and sticking it on the best dps and extending it.

In a raid though should I be using Diurnial? I figure I can shield the raid with the aspected AOE heals before a big AOE. Speaking of AOE, is AST AOE prep just pop aspected AOE heal then put up barrier and stand still?

In a raid situation should I continue just fishing for balances and throwing away boles/spires/arrows to enhance them with until someone is low on TP (or mana) or just use Arrow/Spear on dps as soon as I get em?

For after the big AOE to top off raid I just use the spell that reduces cast times then Aspected AOE > AOE Heal > AOE Heal etc? I guess I could use the heal boost from the link spell if I want the bonus healing right?

Only other thing I can think of is in fights with tankbusters should I be holding a bole card as soon as I get it to protect the tank? Or should I be doing this and fishing for the AOE royal road affect in fights with big aoes like Titans ground pound or whatever

Sorry that's a lot of questions

>>379919997
>hearing nerds talk for 3 hours

>>379910472
But don't you want to get to level 70 as fast as possible and then complain there's no content?

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>the game is devolving

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>>379918732
>jap class in a jap game getting btfo

>>379915117
Different Anon here, but I had about a ten level jump thanks to some PotD grinding when I went back to doing the MSQs around the sylph arc and I had to stop and grind more PotD because I was ineligible to continue after the Haurchefant quests finished. Shit was pretty gay.

>>379921624
Why are SCH so fucking obsessed with damage?

>>379915117
>vanilla
>2.0
This isn't WoW

>>379910010
Don't be too bummed if you're not first into the gate in the new content in SB. It'll be waiting there for you when you're ready. No need to poopsock it, really.

>>379919997
Wasn't this the guy that bitched because anger got a shout-out from yoshi for world first Creator and his group didn't get shit for world first Midas/gordias?

>>379922256
Because it's figuratively their JOB, while fairy does all the healing.

>>379921181
I don't mind reddit formatting that much but holy shit dude.
And yeah, you'll be going diurnal 95% of the time atm. Don't know if the shields blow scholar the fuck out in stormblood though.

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>>379922256
Why wouldn't we?

>>379922256
Because arcanist is a DPS class.

>>379922334
He's the guy who threw a shitfit every time anyone even tangentially related to FFXIV didn't do things exactly his way, from the dev team to a different raid team halfway around the world to the Japanese raid community not following his made-up 'rules' about when you can release videos of your clears

>>379922565
I didn't type Reddit at all I'm on an iPad I think it auto spaces

Ok so I should be using aspected benefic as a shield? How often? Since it has 0 CD do I just use it before a big hit? I get using the AOE version as raid mitigation though

>>379909295
You're fucked. When I finished the MSQ I needed to bridge into HW and that took nearly a week with all the horseshit leading quests that locked me out.

And they don't give any EXP since they were quests when the cap was still lvl 50 to lead you into the new expansion to lvl 60. A weeks worth of questing and I went from lvl 50 to lvl 52.

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>>379921624
fucking kek

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Then why do roulettes reset every day? Keep the bonus up, let me finish in 2 days.

>>379915724
>Final Fantasy is so desperate they have to schedule ENTIRE EXPANSIONS on minor wow patches just so that their playercount doesnt fucking plummet for weeks as everyone else will be playing wow instead

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>>379921181
s/\n\n/\n/
Damn son.

>>379915724
they released 6.2 on heavenswards release date too. not the first time.

>>379923289

Why is the diadem bad? I've never gone there.

this shit needs to go to /vg/ every time there is a thread up about it

>>379923662
>don't talk about video-games on a video-game board reee

>>379923406
You forgot /g at the end. Damn son.

To be honest, since I pay monthly. they should make it so tomestones and lockouts can be entended to 1,800, of course it only increases an extra 450 per week but in that last week if you weren't able to play for the first three weeks you have an entire week to farm that 1,800 instead of missing 1,350 of it. Same with raid gear, you would get more chance to get a guaranteed item from it.

What do you think?

>>379923406
I don't know what that means

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>>379923881
shiiiiiiet
brb committing sudoku

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You niggers said to grind frontlines for 235 ilvl, but I'm don't even have enough ilvl to do that.
I'm fucking pissed. If I have to grind lores I'll never make it to SB.

>>379924167
>posting bastard elf
Indeed you must commit sudoku.

>>379915724
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvbzKXsRD5E

>he thinks FFXIV is special

>>379923643
beautiful location, fuckall to do there

>>379923406
Are you counting newlines?

Can't wait for faster mounts!

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>>379924260
What does a dog say?
ARF ARF ARF ARF

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>when your lala genes allows you to play the market boards better than other races

>>379907217
>we dont want... that you have to log in every day
stackable pool of days worth of daily roulette bonuses when?
auto-dispensing water tank lasting multiple days for garden when?
all the daily quests being converted into stackable weekly quests when?

>>379923643
Nothing to do, they shouldn't have made fates and instead made open world dungeons in the entire zone along with quests and missions.

>>379923376
You have that backwards, blizzard delayed finished content desperate to stop everyone from leaving for sb

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>>379923643
bullet sponge enemies are boring, fates don't give enough rewards, rng with random gear being good or being shit, people quit the instance when they're done with the objectives so emergency missions are IMPOSSIBLE.

>>379924016
The game should honestly just give everyone the same maximum number of tomestones and whatever else, and have the global max rise every day/week/whatever. Let people take a break, then come back and grind it out if they want to, or just not feel pressured to do it for the sake of doing it if they don't want to.

The only place it'd get kind of hairy doing it that way would be actual raid (loot) lockouts, because those are RNG drops shared between a group of players. There's no reason why you should fall behind on anything else if you take a break or join late.

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>>379924427
it's (supposed to be) a magic formula for replacing double new lines (aka "reddit spacing") with single new lines.

>>379923841
its a general without the word general in the op

>>379923643
tfw love Diadem as a gatherer

>he cares about getting gear when the expansion is 5 days away

oh boo hoo the level 61 mobs will hurt a little :( better get that i270 gear!!!!

>>379924849
>finished content
>wow

wew lad, you're a moron.
the PTR has recently barely been posted as "release candidate" and they havent even tuned the numbers on the class changes

they're winging it and have to release it this week because they literally ran out of their 11 week timegated content from the previous patch lmao

>>379924991
Is there a rule for how often /v/ can talk about a certain game? No? Okay, come back when you've done something about the drawthread that's always up since you think you're a fucking hall monitor.

>>379925097
You need i230 or something like that to finish the last MSQ dungeon of HW.

Actually come to think of it, I'm pretty sure the game waives iLevel requirements on raids/trials if you queue as a full party. I wonder if that applies to 4-man dungeons as well.

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>>379924016
>having to tome grind in SB
This kills the hype

>>379910494
this list is retarded

>>379925541
First two weeks is tome grinding all jobs with the uncapped tome and then farming hunts to upgrade it.

Enjoy.

>>379924746
I think this picture sums up perfectly everything wrong with Lalafell and their playerbase.

>>379925639
You're retarded.

>>379925824
>>379925541

Tomes aren't in the game for 2 weeks. So you will beat the entire MSQ and be bored for a week while waiting for more content.

>>379925541
>he thought 4.x would be any different than 2.x and 3.x

>>379925824
You're forgetting an unbelievable amount of shitters who'll invariably go OH GOD WHAT IS THAT ON MY SCREEN it's your gauge you retarded chucklefuck who can't read the fucking notes

he means they dont want to add dailys...right? right? or does it already have dailys?

>>379925824
>farming hunts to upgrade it
Naaaw man. Naww come on. We are past hunts, right? Anything but hunts... please.

>>379926076
I said uncapped tomes.

>>379926179
Game has dailies and no, they won't lower the rate of doing old dailies from beastmen tribe in previous expansions to rank up.

So stupid.

>>379925824
They already said that the typical tome gear is being handed out with job quests this go around so you'll hit end game with 290 gear and can sit around and twiddle your thumbs begging for raids.

>>379926076
The uncapped tomestones (Philosophy/Law equivalent) will be in from day one. It's the capped ones that aren't going to be in at launch (also they'll be introduced on the fifth week along with Savage).

Hopefully this time they introduce the 2-star crafting recipes along with the Normal Mode raid instead of the Savage raid, so that you can not grind out upgrades for the uncapped tomestones and instead enter Savage with a mix of the NM/Crafted gear.

>>379925248
>delay it
>still run out of time

Is PotD making it harder to properly learn a job after a grind?
I never used it and don't really intend to, but doesn't muscle memory play a great part in learning a job?
Doesn't it fuck with it when you badly learn a job by grinding through PotD and pushing whatever buttons work for clearing that?

>>379926609
The 290 gear is going to be the equivalent of the i55 AF1 from ARR. You still needed to grind out a i70 Darklight set before you started raiding.

is now a good time to resub or should i wait until the expansion hype dies down? i stopped playing before the 3.5 content

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>tfw trying to stockpile crystals for SB
>mfw water clusters

95% sure that healer queues will be almost the exact same as DPS queues. Fuck. I hate tanking

>>379926801
Didn't have any problems. I read and understood the tooltips so PotD worked better for me as I knew the rotation while I playing a level 60 job there. Once I hit lvl 60 I just went to hit some dummies and that's it.

Here is the Stormblood timeline.

Up until July 24th, the only max level content will be two dungeons and two primals. Gear acquisition will be doing the primals for weapons (and possibly accessories if the rumors are true). This is not even multiple days worth of content but you will be forced to do them for tomes as it will be the best gear available. You will also need to do hunts to further upgrade said gear. Nothing else will be added until late July.

Upon the 5th week of the game's launch, Omega will open, now you will have access to normal mode gear which will undoubtedly be on the same terrible token system we saw in Heavensward. Savage will also unlock and likely be so easy it's cleared within the first few days. Even more casual but competent groups will clear it by the end of August.

There will be no new content until December, which will only include a single new dungeon, one 24 man raid and supposedly one extra hard version of an already existing boss.

>Ninja gets a job gauge for their Ninki and Huton timer
>doesn't get one for their Ninjustsu Timer

Why the fuck not? That's more important than a Huton timer when huton extension is including in your rotation.

>>379927473

How hard was Ravana Ex on HW release? I knew that Bismarck Ex was dead on arrival.

>>379927474
I never thought about that but that's a really good point. They could pretty easily build it into the stupid Huton pinwheel thing.

>>379927353
Healers should be dying out and thus becoming more rare, same with tanks. A lil of both are gonna switch off to be either of the 2 new dps.

So if anything you will probably have shorter queue times than you have now. But of course tank will be even more instant than before.

>>379927473
Please tell me the AF at lv.70 quest will be dyeable and not have some retarded method to upgrade it just to dye.

>>379926801
>Is PotD making it harder to properly learn a job after a grind?
I would say so yes.
The only time you can do a proper rotation is against a boss and they usually die very quick.

>>379927125
>Tfw I farmed Diadem before they changed it like crazy as a gatherer and I have over 200 Steel Sky Pirate Spoils

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>>379927353
>Fuck. I hate tanking
Too bad 85%+ of the player base hates it too, huh?
It could get even worse in SB with the new damage nerf and DRK/WAR being underwhelming and SAM/RDM being both DPS jobs.

>>379927680
Both of them were quite easy.

>>379927473
The live letter this tuesday will be talking about what's coming in 4.1

>>379927764
The i290 AF3 gear is dyeable from the get go.

>>379926885
Are people still trying to equate 2.x bullshit to 4.0's launch? The team's been ripping out all the crap people have been whining about for years now and openly telling people it's not going to be the exact same treadmill. Are you so cynical you can't see past your own nose?

>>379911618
lmao a friend spent hundreds of dollars on warframe within days of starting it. then he quit within a week because there wasn't anything to do

>>379927881

I thought it was just a Q&A?

>>379927680
A lot of bads got stuck on bismark because of the add dps check.

XIV already won E3 anyway.

>>379927827
As a tank main, fuck tanking. I'm maining samurai.

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>>379927926
Gotta rev up them Soot Black dyes and retainers.

>tfw your comfy PLD job will be invaded by best in role shitters

Guess I'll try WAR

>>379928128
>not jet black

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Which one? (don't hate me, but i have no one else to ask)

>>379919997
>Miunih "I go on xivg to damage control" Evans

>>379928134
>making premature judgment based on an April build
Nigga, don't.

Only the patch notes will tell.

>>379928218
black horns

>>379928218

Right at least seems to fit the aesthetic, left looks like a fag.

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>>379928105
Tank here and I'll probably do the same after the MSQ at launch because lolqueues.

So most efficient level grinding in PotD is to just do 1-10 then delete your character over and over again?

>>379928218
They both look like shit if I'm being honest.
But black horns go better with your look

>>379928218
Stick those horns up your ass.

>>379927473
This is totally wrong though

June 16th: SB launches, max level content is 2-3 dungeons, 2 primals, hunts
July 4th: Omega Normal Mode launches
July 18th: Omega Savage, capped tomestones release

And 3.1 was early November, and they've already said that they're not going to make the mistake of waiting so long for 4.1 to release, so it's probably mid-October at the latest.

>>379928516
No. Floors 51-60.

>>379928504
Just gonna bunker down with my friends, thankfully one of them is autistic and hates both SAM and RDM and is more concerned with leveling PLD.

>>379928608
How the fug do I do that

>>379928516
nah 51-60 is faster if everyone in your group has high level gear.

If you're a 30/30 shitter it might take longer.

>>379927974
AF3 is base gear given out to make sure everyone is the same equivalent power level when they hit 70. There will still be a tomestone grind post-leveling.

>Spending $25 to gain levels(?) and skip one of Final Fantasy's biggest selling points: the story

On top of a game that you have to pay 20 bucks for the base game, 60 bucks total for the expansions that actually have the fun stuff in it, charges 15 bucks a month, and has some of the most ridiculous microtransactions I've ever seen in MMO history.

Anyone who defends this shit needs to kill themselves.

>>379927827
>shitters complain about tanks and healers dealing too much damage
>SE caters to them and remove all complexity from those jobs
>50 min queues for expert roulette
At least the shitters will be happy

>>379928750
Clear floor 50 then you can start on 51 every time you delete the character

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>tank and healer players drop so hard that the game becomes unplayable

>>379928902
>I posted it again
I know it's hard to believe but some people don't want to deal with 500 boring fetch quests

>>379907217
They're going the WoW route

how long before XIV the official app

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>>379927353
>>379927827
>dps will be dps and keep suck tank's dick
damage number whoring is real.

>>379929134

Yeah, I don't feel like they thought this shit through much. The changes to War have me wanting to switch and I've played War since 1.0.

>>379929213
It's already been announced.

>>379928218
The black horns look better but lore wise you should probably go with the Raen (white one).

>>379928598
>one thing wrong
>totally wrong
Do you have a source on normal Omega release?

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>>379929134
>we've increased the adventurer in need bonus g-guise!
>it's 1500 gil now!
>p-please tank!
Why even tank? The only perk is quick queues.

>>379929398
It was announced years ago.

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What if Y'shtola isn't dead yet and WoL is going to Doma to find a cure to magic cancer caused by nippon steel?

>>379927974
They haven't said anything remotely like that. They said that they're going to award your AF via your level 70 job quest because they want people to easily be able to use their class's iconic, job-specific gear.

That also doubles as a way to fix the Heavensward problem of people getting to max level and not having enough gear to enter the max-level dungeons because they had poor luck with their 51-59 dungeon drops (or don't you remember how shit it was that people had to show up to Neverreap/Fractal with NQ vendor gear from Azys Lla?), and prevents the situation from both ARR and HW where the first set of weekly-capped tomestones bought job-specific gear that didn't let you share it between all casters/healers/tanks/ranged/etc.

There's nothing in there about altering the flow of having a starter, freshly-leveled iLevel for new max-level players, and then having a series of upgrades including unlocked tomestone gear for people to go through prior to actually entering the raids, and there's no reason for them to eliminate those steps, because nobody really bitches about it and it adds longevity to the game for the majority of the playerbase.

>>379929529
Not him but
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14SbRI6EBkgUfQxaQM-qIwN7c__Hvuk4vW6VN11OlKUo/pub
Early Access: June 16 2017 at 9:00 GMT

Release Date: June 20 2017 for Windows, PlayStation 4 and Mac
4.01(Omega Normal): July 4 2017
4.05(Omega Savage): July 18 2017

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At this point I'm playing the game at launch just to see how hard it will flop

>>379929529
They've said it at least twice over the last two Live Letters, and it's how they handled Heavensward.

>>379929875
Why would it flop tho?

I'm retarded, the class changes are on the 16th regardless of EA right?

>>379929828
Thanks

>>379922256
Because it's all SCH mains care about. They, along with WAR mains, are the most arrogant cunts in the playerbase.

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>tfw you're a sproutshitter who watches every cutscene the first time through
>tfw no one ever tries to kick you because you're the tank
I have a feeling this will change when I get to the double tank sections, but for now, it's a pretty nice feel.

>>379929395
every single tank in my FC except one is planning to switch to SAM or RDM

fucking hell

>>379930147
I've never see a vote kick happen aside from afkers. No matter how bad or even when they are bming. You'll be fine.

Most players aren't cancerous and understand that watching cutscenes is part of the expiernce

>>379930058
You're an idiot.
Alex normal ame ou halfway between heavensward and Alex savage.
Why the fuck you would assume otherwise, and not only that but PREACH your bullshit is well beyond me.
You thick cunt.

>>379930147
no one kicks for watching cutscenes

>>379930408
Nothing else about my post was incorrect and only shows how rigidly they follow the same formula.

>>379928218
Male face 3 is trash, no matter what.

>>379930121

Man don't lump the War mains that spent most of 2.0 being bland with the people that hopped onto the Fell Cleave change. I don't want to be a DPS that sometimes Tanks, I wanna be a tank that fucking tanks. The changes on the way look like shit.

Clunky starter, clunky stance changing, removal of bloodbath and mercy stroke. Two skills that won't even be put on my fucking bar and one I'll probably ignore 99% of the time. For the first time since 1.0 I'm genuinely thinking of switching, queue times won't be a deal for me because I duo with a healer anyway.

>>379928902
I'd agree usually, but now that SB raised the cap to 70 you're basically missing what a lot of idiots who get into the game want now. To be at end game with their friends who talked them into this bullshit.

If the 1-49 story was at least half as compelling as the 50-60 stuff then maybe people wouldn't mind as much. (Those last few dungeons can make up for Waking Sands every 5 seconds, even with skipping CS and being totally lost in DF runs.) They're pretty shit though, and to really give a shit about the world you need to do most of the side quests as they pop up along the MSQ, which are even more boring outside of the minor exposition. In the end you have a huge second expansion of gates before the current one that has another set of gates. All of this stopping people from playing with their friends as they wanted to in the first place.

It's going to be abused a lot.

>>379925248
They had to "delay" it, and by pure coincidence it just so happens to come out not within the same month, no within the same week, but on the exact same day as stormbloods release?

Buddy, they don't roll a dice to see when they release this stuff.
They're a big name game corporation and ffxiv is their only real competition in the mmorpg world.

I guarantee you, their release date was planned down to the last minute the moment stormbloods release date wan announced, they CANNOT let it release without some competition from themselves and just let it steal a potentially large amount of players from their own game that is already losing a million+ players every year.

>>379930147
It's not possible to kick people at the beginning of an instance, and the 8-man cutscene stuff is really only an issue in two instances, where people will just do the fights without you anyway.

>>379929994
Copying WoW even further while neglecting its unique charms.

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I'm leveling really slow at 50-60 right now, I'm playing tank and it still take forever. Is there somesort of buffs or bonus can do to maximize my lving experience? I really dont want to run 4-5 runs per level

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Samurai or Red Mage?

Which will be less popular?

>>379927680
Ravana's mechanics were pretty tricky to get at the time, you couldn't brute force him the way we can now at that ilv

>>379915724
Nu-Blizzard has done this for years. And not just for MMO releases either.

The Necromancer for D3 is being released purposefully when Path of Exile's expansion releases as well.

The worst part of it is the Blizzdrones continuing to claim that it's all a coincidence.

>>379930121
Arrogant cunts because they want to have fun?

>>379930664
>They could have left Deliverance alone since it pretty much already worked great, and instead focused WAR's SB changes on making Defiance viable again

>But six Fell Cleaves yo

>>379930942
Honestly its hard to say. I'd give it to RDM being less popular, since all the hardcore weebs are going to roll on SAM as soon as they can.

>>379930942
RDM less popular by a considerable margin.

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>>379930942
Personally playing RDM, hoping and assuming that SAM will be more popular, because of weebs and autists who wet themselves at it's damage output.

>>379931082
>the crux of WAR fun will be pressing Fell Cleave 6 times
They just don't get it huh

>>379930664
>the people that hopped onto the Fell Cleave change
That's why 99% of people even hopped on WAR in HW, though.
MUH
FELL
CLEAVEZ
And now look at how WAR's getting fucked. SE's doubling down on the DPS aspect of WAR because of retards. They memed themselves down this path.

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How do you hide names on crafted gears

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>>379930942
As soon as the June census is out I'm summing all of the playerbase's RDM levels and SAM levels.

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>>379930264
>the one that doesn't switch is a content respecting, defensive-stance-only, single-mob pulling autist

>>379928218
None, play a real race such as Male Highlander

>>379931429
You can't

>>379930942
Probably gonna be SAM once people realize how high the skill ceiling in and how much flack people will get for being shit at it.

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In before PF is full to the brim with
>SAM LF static
>RDM LF roster
>WHM LF roster
>MNK LF roster

>>379928969
Oh I thought that would be retarded because of DD levels

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>>379928539
lel

>tfw trying to level up paladin right now and the queues aren't instant because all the wars are rerolling

>>379930924
pls help.

Astrologian should have just been an advanced job for white mage. Since White Mage plays exactly like an Astrologian except with less shit to do.

>>379932102
There's no way.

Blame SE for raising the level cap for no reason, and making those 10 levels take as much time as 1- 50.

>>379929719
>(or don't you remember how shit it was that people had to show up to Neverreap/Fractal with NQ vendor gear from Azys Lla?)
Didn't quests give better gear than that

Side note I'm going back and doing sidequests I skipped to make leveling alts less boring and I missed a lot of that shit because at ~58-59 I got burned out and just went dungeon power grind to 60.

>>379931337
I hopped off the WAR train because I really liked the (post-2.1) ARR version of the class more than the HW version, but I really feel bad for people who were still into it because they really kind of shit the bed and doubled down on the parts of it that were already overemphasized, while removing most of the stuff that was actually interesting and cool.

DRK in SB honestly looks like it has a lot more in common with what made WAR good in HW, and I'm not even just saying that to shitpost.

I think there's going to be a divide between WAR players who are into the class because of its versatility, utility, etc, who are probably going to end up rolling DRK (or at the least doing DRK/WAR and switching on a per-fight basis), and the ones who carry on about "so well designed, so much synergy" but actually just bask in it being overpowered, and they'll probably jump ship to SAM or something.

>>379931981
>tfw playing WHM now out of spite

>>379932253
WHM was fun in ARR.

>Graniteskin a tank before the buster
>having to Protect people being raised due to Proshell
>fucking Holy
>MP management was still a thing
>SCH couldn't into AoE heals so it was your responsability
Good times

>>379932332
>raising the level cap for no reason

Need to string that carrot.

What MMOs have had been expansion level releases that didn't raise the level cap since EQ?

Casual game. Play a real MMO. Or better yet, don't.

>>379932663
GW2 just released an expansion 1 or 2 years ago and didn't increase lvl cap.

>>379932663

FFXI didn't raise the level cap for fucking years but gear in that game could last you 70 levels.

>>379932663
FFXI hung in there for a long ass time. Until Abyssea, which wasn't Yoshi P a big part of? I can't remember anymore.

>>379932663
FFXI

>>379932838
>gw2

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>FC runs out of things to spend tomes on
>Tell him to just decorate the house or something.

My mistake

>>379932987
All our content is gated behind story and ilvl so raising the level cap makes even less sense.

It's like triple gating.

>>379933186
whos the guy in the pictures?

>>379926801
Play your job in a solo run on floor 51+. You will learn quickly how to play your job, or you will die.

>>379907217
What is the point of an mmo if I dont log in everyday? Wtf yoshida.

>>379932838
>GW1 released three expansions and never released either an expansion pack or even stronger gear than what was in the game when it first launched
>Its business and development model was that it could keep releasing expansions as basically standalone games on a 6-9 month dev cycle, and could have kept doing that for at least 5-7 years
>There was a clear upward trajectory in the quality of Prophecies - Factions - Nightfall
>And they all made really good bank, to boot

>But then they sniffed the money tree and threw it all away to make GW2
>And then fucked up Eye of the North by making it all a shitty teaser for GW2 stuff

The world sucks I guess

>>379932332
Raising the lvl cap is really important though, especially to a game like ff14.

Imagine if they never did, we would be clearing the old dungeons even faster. What would be the point of doing new harder content? Why are there gear increases? We'd have all our new skills during the old dungeons.

>>379910494
I think he means he doesn't want people to feel they have to login everyday or fall behind. DESU it's not really an issue as tomestones are getting easier and easier to cap. Scripts can do every easily in one evening and it's uncapped in stormblood if what people say is true

>>379933260
Pretty sure that isn't the point of leveling.

>>379933445
If this is actually adhered to, I have to say that there isn't any hope for this game moving forward. The bulk of the playerbase already plays for a month or two every couple major patches. Doubled down with the one dungeon every odd patch number. Things aren't looking good.

>>379932527
WAR feels the same, outside of stance dancing changes and defensive cooldowns not giving wrath. I'll stick with them because I've always liked their cooldowns, but am making a SAM.

Really don't matter for me, because I do zero Savage content. So the min-maxing is pretty much lost on me.

10 for base game, 15 for heavenward, 35 for stormblood and 13 monthly sub.
Phew, and I was interested on Red Mage for a while.

>>379933342
an NPC that becomes important around when Heavensward content starts

>>379933975
Stormblood comes with heavensward.

>>379927025
What do you want to do? If you're planning on leveling SAM or RDM (or any DPS) through dungeons, then you'll definitely want to wait.

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Who
>finished grinding PvP and has all the Garo pieces
here?

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>>379933514
This is a problem with vertical progression game design. There's nowhere to go but up. It's the same reason that people complain old gear is pointless as soon as a new patch drops--you have no choice but to farm for new gear, your old gear is useful only as a means to get new gear.

In a horizontal progression system (see FFXI, GW1) you don't progress through ever-increasing numbers, but rather through completing content, acquiring gear with situational uses and cycling through it depending on the situation, and getting cosmetic rewards.

Vertical progression systems weren't meant to just keep going forever. It leads to older content becoming more and more redundant as time goes on. Look at WoW with it's level 110 characters, with characters that have literally millions of hit points.

>>379933514
>What would be the point of doing new harder content?
The same reason we do new raids and dungeons - to get better gear.

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>>379934204
>PvPing at all

>>379934008
Does it come with the base game too? (and the trial month)

>>379934449
Heavensward either gets rolled into the base game or Stormblood, I'm not sure which. Someone else here will know. Either way, don't pay for it now.

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If you have multiple jobs at 60 and you go into leveling roulette as a healer at i230, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ANY GODDAMN IDEA HOW TO HEAL FUCK

>>379934605
Its rolled into SB

>>379934413
>being too casual to PvP

Don't you have an Au Ra or Cat to play dress up with, virgin?

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>>379934413
>not enjoying racking up kills as a BRD and after the match ends see you at the top of the list

Farshot too good.

>>379933907
Defensive CDs don't give wraith?

How will xeno continue his offensive tanking play style?

>>379934628
You don't pay my sub.

>>379934449
>>379934605
There is a 80 dollar package that comes up with the game, both expansions and a month of sub.

>>379934197
i wanted to get into MCH but yeah, considering how bad it's going to be for DPS i think i'll wait

>>379934204
Stll need to level
>MCH
>NIN
>BRD
>DRK
>DRG

I hope I can do it before the event ends

>>379934889
Isn't it cheaper to buy them separately then?

>>379934204
All for every class? Fuck that.

The only ones worth it are WAR/DK, NIN/PLD, and DRG. Rest are garbo. Still need to get the DRG set, but I'll never level a DRG so wondering if I really care.

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>>379934413
>SMN in PvP

>>379935035
Oh its only $60 my bad. But even at 80 I think the price is roughly the same.
https://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-XIV-Online-Complete-PC/dp/B071CMXD5H/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1497225250&sr=8-3&keywords=ff14

>>379935035
The complete edition is $60 not 80.

>>379934859
Wasn't even that. The WHM DPSed and healed. He just sucked at BOTH. And I don't think he had swiftcast on him. SWIFTCAST. WITH A LEVEL 50 BLM IN HIS PROFILE.

>>379928218
Left is less disgusting, but holy shit don't use that face.

>>379933907
It's going to be interesting to see how WAR's superior lineup of baseline mitigation tools (especially now that they got to upgrade Foresight into Rampart) compares to PLD and DRK being able to use their IB-alike active mitigation skills from their DPS stances.

My gut-level reaction is that WAR is going to fall pretty far behind, but I'd love to be surprised and find that all three tanks have good niches.

>>379934628
i see you've encounter your first neflix healer

>>379935312
not him but what's a good male midlander face?

>>379935298
Maybe the rest of the group was the problem then. Are you upset that he didn't raise you when you died from standing in aoe?

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>>379935390
>Warlords of Garlemald
>niches

>>379927827
Just gonna keep being DRK because it's the only proper edgelord class. I'll DPS more if they make a necromancer or void/blood mage.

>>379930942
Red Mage will have more people afk in the end city.
Samurai will have more people actually playing it.

>>379929569
I like it.

>>379935596
I don't get it

>>379929569
Because window lickers still exist

>>379929569
Yeah but you can quick queue on a tank to get dailies done faster as opposed to waiting 15-20 minutes. I would use my WAR to catch my NIN up on gear in HW because the grind was so much faster.

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>WARbabbies spend all of HW calling PLDs cucks abd jacking off to MUH FELL CLEAVES
>now that PLD might be on top WARbabbies are crying about "Muh tank balance"

Get fucked

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I'LL CUT YOU TO PIECES

>>379933483
Some skills from the expansions were STRONG and required for a lot of good builds. May as well have put in a stronger fucking sword

>>379935545
the ones at the bottom, 5 and 6 I think, are pretty decent. Anything but that absolute baby face is okay.

Huton shouldn't even have a countdown until you hear battle music.

>>379934376
Another problem with vertical progression is it acts as a reset every cycle like ARPGs do with seasons or ladders etc.

You already know going into an expansion that everything you do is for naught (ultimately) because the next expansion is going to reset everything to push box sales and bring in newbs.

This is a cycle that won't be broken. The stranglehold that the WoW model has put in place for 13 years now has not been altered or changed. MMOs are destined to whither and die.

>>379936581
Why not just make it permanent :-)

>>379935545
Just don't pick 2, and never ever use facial hair unless you're using face 3.

I'd probably go with face 4, if I had to play a Midlander.

>>379936581
Same with Monk forms. Being able to formshift to Coeurl and have it be permanent until combat started would be such an awesome QoL change.

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>>379936352
>everybody memes about SICKNESS MUST BE PURGED when this fuckface gave my groups way more trouble

>>379936581
Shield oath and Sword oath shouldn't even have mana cost in the first place let alone how expensive they are.

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>Have over 200 million gil from selling A12S
>Struggling to find anything worth spending it on

At least it made getting the blessed crafting tools pretty easy

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>>379936834
DID I JUST HEAR A FILTHY RAT

>>379930942
On paper right now, RDM damage is kind of disappointing but fun to play.
If SAM damage is as crazy has people say, he will definitively become the new FOTM.
And the new dungeon king.

Just had a few ideas for both useful and hilarious RDM macros for Verraise, thought I'd post a few:

>"You're back <t>, don't waste it or you're gonna get verslapped."

>"<t> is back, can I go back to being a dps?"

>"Dammit <t>! You threw off my mana balance! I forgive you though."

>>379935573
The rest of the group had it's own problems, but he played like shit for having so much leveled. If this is what jump potion fags are gonna be like, I'm going to be leaving duties like crazy.

>>379936897
I'm still a little annoyed that they didn't cut the Oaths down to 1.5s half-GCDs like Meditation.

>>379936834
People complain about the last boss being a heal check but keeping a retarded tank alive after he gets 6+ stacks of vuln up is much harder.

>>379935656
Do you have your skills macro's with lines for party chat?

>Anon has embraced the {Darkness}

>>379936720
I like the reset button, mostly. I wish some old stuff would be useful beyond quality of life and cosmetics but I enjoy fresh starts that put people on roughly the same level for people who join late. It also refreshes the game experience in my opinion, as otherwise you'd lose that new character progression feeling forever

>>379907217
shit like that is why i have absolutely no faith in the dev team anymore

>>379936720
I've never seen anyone complain about vertical progression who didn't ultimately reveal themselves to be an absolute idiot. You're no different.

>>379935774
You know exactly what's up. Have a (You).

>>379936581
well its not as bad anymore, they changed it so hide refreshes ninjutsu CD. so you can huton then hide -> unhide before pulls

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>>379936352

>>379937043
This reminds me of that autist who had cringey pre-planned lines for every situation imaginable while playing video games with this girl IRL

Anyone have the image?

>>379937159
No I'm silent for the most part. I even get to tank shit by myself in the corner or ON THE EDDDDGE of the arena

>inventory 100/100
>retainer #1 175/175 Venture Complete
>retainer #2 175/175 Venture Complete
>market #1 20/20
>market #2 20/20
>all left side armoury chest slots full

rip

>>379937531
Stop hoarding shit you don't need.

>>379934795
>Tfw you're top 3 in damage as a WAR
It's always an awesome feel.

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>>379937531
>he hasn't bought more retainers

>>379937531
Better start collecting more jewelry anon

>>379936834
it's the first fight in heavensward that taught people how to position

>>379937043
>that last one
... But verraise doesn't affect your mana balance?

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>>379937441
Nevermind found it

>>379937531
Stop hoarding useless shit. Sell it already, I haven't once had both my inventory and my ONE of my retainers full.

>>379937251
#BRINGBACKTANAKASVISION

>>379937676
Dude I can't sell this shit fast enough

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>>379937676
Problem?

>>379937687
>tfw top damage as DRK by a good 200 DPS
>and there's no NIN or WAR

It's more of a stuck-on-an-elevator-and-the-building-caught-fire feel.

>>379919997
>3 and a half hours
oh wow its the sargon of ffxiv

>>379937531
You gotta let thing go anon. I'm taking in the new expansion as fresh as I can and sold everything I own. Armory chest has just the required stuffs, I've maybe on tab worth of glamour stuff on my retainer and that's it. Inventory is stacked with aetheryte tickets and some random tokens which I need to discard when I login next time.
can't wait to swim in GC seals after the Gordian gear can be turned in

>>379937176
As you said the old stuff continues to be pushed farther and farther into obscurity. I'd contend that giving people whom have done the content already decent incentive to get through the old content has potential to at least shake up this decade old system and at least give something different.

>>379937332
I'd wait for an actual counter argument, but this is /v/ so I know better.

>>379937892
Anon, we were talking about PVP.

>>379937794
lol

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>>379937676
>potential glams or leveling gear for alt jobs
>crafting meterials
>don't need

AST feels like such an awkward class

It has all these options but pretty much anywhere I've looked it's 'fish for enhanced balance unless you're in dire need of TP/Mana'

The 'not beacon of light' move has a 20% potency buff attached to it so is often popped just for that because it's rare than only tank + one other person needs heals (it's usually either single target or raidwide damage)

The move that removes cast times seems to just beg you to overheal massively since Aspected Helios > Helios nearly tops off a raid instantly anyway

It has all this cool stuff but I feel like it just boils down to chasing balance cards and AOE healing. I'm so rarely even out of cleric because you can just toggle out , hit Essential Dignity Aspected Benific to instantly top someone off and continue


Or am I just massively misreading the class

>>379937796
>>379938029
What part of all my market board slots being full are you people not getting here

>>379938124
>leveling gear for alt jobs
>LEVELING
>FUCKING
>GEAR
What the fuck do you think palace of the dead is for? You don't need gear.

>>379938124
We're going to get a glamour log just you wait...

The Glamour Log has a monthly fee to use

>>379937676
But I might NEED it at some point, you never know!

>>379938340
>doing potd to grind 50-60
No thanks

>>379938312
>right click
>have retainer sell this item
It only hurts once m8.

>>379929569
Best reason to play tank, skip the shittiest part of lore/scrip farming with instants

>>379938041
>take my ancient faggotry seriously
Come up with something less boring then.

>>379938294
Spear needs rework, Ewer/Spire should just be on card.

Spread should allow you to hold that card meaning when you Draw again you can't obtain the card that is in your Spread giving you a 1/5 chance of a card instead 1/6

>>379938460
I hope they never increase inventory space to fuck over you hoarders.

>>379938124
>Not having everything at 60
It's very liberating getting all the jobs that wear a type of gear to max level. Trashing all your low level gear feels great.

>>379937153
Its not a heal check, its a retard check. The one who suffers the most just happens to be healers.

>>379938342
>The Glamour Log has a monthly fee to use
Don't joke about it, buddy!

>>379938381
I hate how HW crafts need ARR material and it will most likely continue in SB.

>>379938124
>>potential glams
I have the same problem, but the stuff I have can't be bought back, like the maid outfit. SE needs tto make those armoire-able and buyable with gil for those who had it once.

>>379938612
I only hoard important things.

>>379938612
They won't for retainers since they make dosh from people buying extra retainers.

>put single soot black dyes at 15000 gil a piece when there's players selling 10 of them for 450 gil
>it sells super fast anyway
whew
this is babby's first MB but damn it's working well