Hey /v/, i bought a pre-built gaming pc for $1200, did i do good?

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>>379871049
>$1200
>1050ti

So you spent $1200 for a $600-700 computer?
Hope you saved enough for a knife with which to kill yourself.

>>379871049
you fucking idiot

>>379871049
>120gb SSD
>not M.2
ayyy
>i7
Ayyyyy
>1050
AYYYYYYYY

>>379871049
>1050ti
>corsair 460x

ahahaha

you fucking idiot. You could have got a 4790k and a 1080 instead, would be twice as powerful

>>379871207
Seller has to profit somehow, you dope.

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>replying to bait

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>>379871049
>i7
>non-k
>meme case
>only a 1050 Ti

>>379871049
that build shoulda cost you 900 tops, OP. Give us a more detailed breakdown.

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>1050ti
>another idiot fell for the prebuilt meme

>>379871049
Must be in AUS or CAD. That kind of price for that computer only happens in those two places.

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So You decided that extra 8 gigabytes of ram and i7 instead of i5 is more important than a decent gpu for gaming. Please explain.

You spent 1200 dollars for a motherfucking 1050ti? Good lord anon, there's a reason everybody tells you not to buy prebuilts. If you can't take the time to research what you're buying then PC gaming is not for you.

Take that thing back to the store, and get something better with that budget.
>i5 6600k
>A nice aftermarket CPU cooler, I use the Cooler Master H212 EVO but supposedly there's better stuff out there now
>GTX 1060/70 depending on how much you're willing to blow. Go EVGA if you want a good warranty, MSI if you want a kickass cooler
>16 gigs ram
>at least 1 terabyte of storage
>micro ATX motherboard
>micro atx case
(only go full ATX if you legitimately intend on buying expansion cards)
Voila. Go on the PC gaming subreddits or check a Youtube tutorial like the 3 part series Newegg has on PC building. If this sounds like too much for you buy a Scorpio.

bad bait, stop giving him (You)s retards

>>379871470
4 hours to put together a bare-bones computer like this, absolute max, for a rank fucking amature.
At which point he'd be making $150 an hour.
If you think the seller deserves that much money for doing almost nothing then you are fucking retarded.
Enjoy your $600 stupidity tax, giving money to a company that exclusively exists to leach off of retards such as yourself.

>>379871514
http://www.ecollegepc.com/intel-core-i5-7600k-cpu-gaming.html
this thing, only difference is the cpu, and adding an SSD

>>379871049
ouch, good bait my man

op is prolly bait but i did buy a prebuilt

but i changed the stock power supply to a evga supernova g2 and the r7 250 2gb gpu to a gtx 1060

i know i probably should have built it from scratch but im still happy with it

>>379871789
>bait
no for real i have it
i can post a pic in a few minutes

>>379871049
>dat case
So where do you put the optical drive for when you want to watch blu rays and hand people chucker disks? Do these guys really expect me to plug in people's random USB keys every time I want to pass along files without using internets?

>>379871049
>GTX 1050 Ti
Not good at all
Return it

I want to build a computer but I don't fucking understand all this shit
>Hahah! the (assortment of numbers and letters) sucks, you coulda got (assortment of numbers and letters) and it would have been much better!
Fuck this shit man. Call me a retard

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>>379871892
>>379871686
>>379871995
I dont know if i can return it, i got it a few weeks ago.

>>379871187
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/29RB6X
Welcome to Canada.

>>379872209
I'm in America m8

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>>379871049
>please be bait

>>379872041
Just read up for a day or two and go to /g/ man, it's not THAT complicated

Unless you're buying used and want to buy older hardware, it's pretty simple

NVIDIA:
1050 < 1050ti < 1060 3GB < 1060 6GB < 1070 < 1080 < 1080ti

AMD
460 < 470 < 480 < older FURY card

>>379872320
Just showing you that, that computer would cost around that much up here. We pay 30 cents on the dollar. A 1080 ti is 1000 bucks.

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>>379871650
>2017
>4 cores
Get a Ryzen 5 1600

>16gb ram
>in CURRENT YEAR

>>379872361
it's not
see
>>379872201
>>379872320
>>379871914
>>379871707

>>379872403
>AMD
>460 < 470 ...

you know the 5xx are already out, right?

>>379872201
does it run the games you want it to run well? Are you happy with it?

>>379872519
i keep like 40 tabs open in chrome, which eats up like 4 gb of ram idling

>>379871049
>Hey /v/, i bought a pre-built
Stopped reading here.

>>379872645
your point being?

>>379872041
>>379871650 applies to you, that build i pulled out of my ass is a pretty good newb build and is what I'd get if I suddenly had to buy a new rig. >>379872515 has a good suggestion with the more cores thing since games are starting to use more than 4 threads now but don't get Ryzen for gaming, you'd be better off saving up for an i7 or just keeping the i5. AMD CPU's are a no-no
The assortment of random letters and numbers thing is confusing at first but you'll pick up on the naming patterns quickly.
>nVidia: GT(X if it's a gaming card) XY0 (X being the series, Y being the performance tier, 0 just being a 0, so GTX 970 is a gaming card from the 900 series with mid-high performance for it's time)
X50 is entry level, x60 is mid end, x70 is mid-high, x80 is high, and x80ti is retard/4k tier
nVidia is currently on the 10x0 series
>AMD: RX XY0: Pretty much same as nVidia, only it's RX instead of GTX. They're on the 5x0 series right now.
x60 is low end, x70 is entry level, x80 is mid, and x90 is higher end whenever they can be assed to release a high end card

>>379872637
yeah actually, it runs Subnautica, a torrented Prey, UEBS, Killing Floor 2
all that shit on the highest settings
it feels good because i've been stuck on a "gaming" laptop all my life

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>>379871049
>16 GB

>>379872041
Parts worth buying, ordered from cheap to expensive

CPU:
>G4560
>Ryzen 1500x
>1600
>1700

GPU:
>1050ti
>RX570
>RX580 (get a 6GB 1060 if its considerably cheaper)
>1070 (only get a 1070 or better if you're at 1440p or higher)
>1080
>1080ti

>>379872634
Whatever, I'm hungry.


And it doesn't matter because the stock is so low at this point, it's actually cheaper to buy a 1070 then a 4/580, it's like an inverse situation to 9 months ago.

>mfw selling my RX480 for the price I paid for my 1070

>>379872792
the last desktop i ever had was advertised as being "built for Windows XP"
i remember it struggling to play Iron Aces, which was the first vidya i ever played

>>379872758
>>379872403
>>379872880
Thanks for the advice

>>379872758
>AMD CPU's are a no-no
t. Schlomo Shekelstein

I also like to stream, does that help?

>>379871650
>>379872758
Ryzen 5 is better than i5. Buying an i5 now is a waste. Ryzen 7 vs i7 is more contentious but as of right now the Ryzen 5 is much better value than an i5.

>>379873113
Get a R5 1600 or R7 1700 then, the ryzens excel at streaming.

So someone tell me, exactly where have i fucked up?

>>379872792
You basically wasted around $500 but if it can run what you throw at it and you got disposable income then who cares, have fun anon. When the time comes and you want to get a new build try and do a bit of research. It's really not complicated at all with benchmarks being done everywhere on the internet now.

>>379872403
To expand on this:

Nvidia:
GT 710 < GT 720 < GT 730 < GT 740 < GTX 745 < GTX 750 < GT 1030 < GTX 750 Ti < GTX 950 < GTX 760 < GTX 1050 < GTX 960 < GTX 770 < GTX 1050 Ti < GTX 780 < GTX 970 < GTX Titan (original) < GTX 780 Ti < GTX 1060 3 GB < GTX 980 < GTX 1060 6 GB < GTX 1070 < GTX 980 Ti < GTX Titan X < GTX 1080 < GTX Titan X (Pascal) < GTX 1080 Ti < GTX Titan Xp

AMD:
R5 330 (R5 430) < R5 340 (R5 435) < R7 350 < R7 450 < R7 360 < R7 455 < RX 550 < RX 460 < R7/R9 370 < R9 370x < R9 380 < R9 380x < RX 470 < RX 570 < R9 390 < RX 480 < R9 390x < RX 580 < R9 Nano < R9 Fury < R9 Fury X

Also, don't ever buy anything below a GTX 950 on the Nvidia side or an R9 370 on the AMD side, most of them are trash.
Aside from maybe the 750 Ti if you're looking for performance somewhere between the PS4 and the XB1.

>>379873369
The video card is not worth the money
Power supply is low wattage

>>379873369
Getting a locked intel chip and a 1050ti for the price I paid for a 6700k and 1070 build, and pairing 16GB of ram with that for no real reason.

>>379873497
>You basically wasted around $500
ah shit
well it's better than this gaming laptop which also cost $1200 and couldn't run jack shit

>>379873369
The graphics card is pretty bad for a 1200 dollar build. It's about around the level of my GPU which was 1000 dollar build tier back in 2014
Everything else is fine (although the locked CPU is a red flag) but just the price makes me cringe.

Sell the 1050ti (doubt you'd get much back but it's something) and get a new power supply and a GTX 1060 or 1070 if you are past the point of returning the build. If you can still return it, get that puppy refunded and build something from scratch. It feels way cooler and it's really not hard at all once you get past that initial "HURR DURR I DUNNO ABOUT COMPUTERS BIG NUMBERS SCARE ME" hump.

>>379873497
>get a new build
can't i just upgrade some of the parts and it be fine?

>>379871049
>(non-k)
you fucked up

>>379873736
Specs of laptop?

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>>379871049
>i7-7700(non-k)
>16gb of RAM
>120gb SSD
>1TB HDD
>GTX 1050 Ti
>$1200

>>379871650
This, but also make sure you get at minimum a 7200 rpm hard drive, you'll be fucked if you don't do that.

>>379873539
Honestly, its best to not go below the 1050ti or RX460 on a budget build
Go used if you want something cheaper

>>379873848
Of course. I meant 5+ years from now IF your CPU starts to bottleneck. Replacing your 1050Ti is the only thing you'll have to do to massively increase your performance in games if you have the need to.

>>379873369
Assuming you're American, this is how much an equivalent build would have cost you.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6t4DsJ
So yea, you basically spent an extra $300-$450 to have them assemble it for you.

>>379873848
Yeah but if it runs stuff at the frame rates you like wait until the next generation of gpus to upgrade.

>>379874012
dell inspiron 15-7559
got it a couple years ago

>>379871049
I'd get at least a 1060 in a rig like that. The 1050 is better for smaller budget builds, not for a fucking $1200 rig. If you're spending that kind of money you'll want something that actually has some power. Also get more storage space. 120gb/1tb is nothing. It might seem like a lot but you'll fill it up in no time. Get at least 250gb/3tb, it's not even going to drive up the price much.

All in all I find it hard to believe that's a $1200 build. I'd pay no more than $800 for it. Of course prebuilt is always pointlessly expensive, but still. You're being ribbed off big time.

>>379874105
1050 Ti is quite a bit faster than the 460.
But yea, I wouldn't go below a 460/1050 if you're looking for comfortable modern gaming.

>>379873848
If you can't return it, upgrade the GPU to a RX580 or GTX1070, which will most likely also require a PSU upgrade, and you will be fine
You still wasted quite a bit of money

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>>379871049
>i7-7700(non-k)
>GTX 1050 Ti

lmao you got ripped

>>379874478
hope you got a source for that senpai

I really hope this is bait. 1050 Ti is ridiculously underpowered for that pricetag

why don't you guys do some research before spending that kind of money

>>379874317
>You're being ribbed off big time.
thanks senpai, i guess i know better for next time
300-400 bucks isnt bad over the course of a couple years though, right?

>>379874307
Thinking about getting that actually for melee Netplay.

>>379874830
Fuck off barney

>>379871049
I put a friends 7700k 1080 500gb ssd computer together for 1400$

So no you're a fucking retard

>>379874830
Moot

>>379874830
Fuck off not even slightly pone related.Get a fucking life you autist.

>>379875060
Welcome to 4chan, newfriend.

Sometimes when 2 different images get posted at exactly the same time, they end up getting switched across threads or even different boards sometimes. They're usually easy to recognize by the fact that the thumbnail doesn't match the actual image. The usual reply is to blame the switch on Moot.

Now you know.

>>379875326
>thumbnail doesn't match the actual image
but it does

>>379875326
I'm aware of that circumstance and still how on earth am I supposed to know that was not barneyfag having an aneurysm

>>379871049
You fucked up, the video card is the most important component for games, that alone should cost between 1/3 and 1/2 of your total budget (not including the monitor).

Sell that GTX 1050 ti and buy a GTX 1070 and you wont have to worry about maxing graphical settings for next 4-5 years.

>>379875656
>>379875710
The aspect ratio of the thumbnail was fucked up, because it matched the ratio of the original image instead of the barney image.

It's really fucking obvious whenever it happens.

You did waste like 400 dollars but it's a entry level gayman PC at the very least, 1080/60 on the highest settings on every game you throw at it isn't bad, but consider upgrading that grafix card in the future, right now you could bump the ram to 32 ddr4 and it would set you back 100-200 dollars.

>>379874565
aoiri ichigou

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>>379873205
>Ryzen 5 is better than i5. Buying an i5 now is a waste.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7600K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3885vs3919

Is there any point in getting an i7 for gaming? It's kinda like the Ryzen meme I think. It's useless unless the game uses a lot of multithreading, which almost no games do properly anyway. Might as well get an i5 and save $100.

>>379875846
I had a suspicion but I've seen the same glitch happen with normal pictures, and *that* picture out of all of them seemed too convenient a coincidence and had me check the thread for sneak pony pictures that went past me instead

In the process of getting parts to build a PC right now.

>Corsair d450 case
>i7-7700k
>GTX 1060
>16gb ram
>2TB HDD
>500gb SSD
>Motherboard: Z270 GAMING M3

Still deciding on the rest. Any thoughts? Am I memeing myself? What should my price ideally be?

>>379872758
>AMD CPU's are a no-no
You're living in the past. Ryzen is not bulldozer, go look at benchmarks on youtube or whatever. R5 1600 particularly has very good value - its IPC is sligthly lower than that of i5 7500, however its multi threaded performance is vastly superior and the platform has longevity because AM4 was just released and you know how Intel is like with socket changes. The R5 lineup made i5 processors not really worth the money.

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>>379876072

>>379876404
Intel K versions doesn't come with a cooler.

a 240gb ssd should be enough, you should only copy the games you're playing on it and then delete them when you're done, so there's no need to store too many files on a SSD.

>>379876706
IPC of Ryzen is actually a bit higher than kaby lake

>>379876404
1060 is povvo tier. Get a cheaper SSD and a 1070/1080 instead.
Also coolers?

>>379874105
the 1050ti is a meme card
in most games you'll get 5 more fps compared to a normal 1050

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>>379871914
1200 THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A 1050TI

>>379876404
I would go for a cheaper case, motherboard and smaller ssd, and get a 1070 instead of a 1060.

>>379876404
Get a Ryzen 1600 or 1700

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>>379873848
If you ever want to upgrade just slap a gtx 1070 in there assuming your at 1080p display. Your gpu is the only bottleneck currently. You did ok but you could have done worse. 6/10.

>>379876974
>>379876904
Was gonna use the cooler master hyper 212

Currently the price is looking up to $1550, which I feel is a little higher than it should be. I may cut back on the SSD drive to 250.

>>379872881
You fucking liar they are still double the price of a 480

>>379871049
>i7
>non-k
>Probably stock cooler
>16GB of RAM
>Only a 120GB SSD
>Only a 1TB HDD
>Both probably bottom of the barrel brands
>A fucking 1050ti
>But I have super ricer case
Congratulations, you have a run of the mill overpriced tower. Did it at least come with a reputable PSU and motherboard?

Would a 1070 be enough for 1440p@144hz? Should I bump it up to a 1080?

>>379878029
1080 senpai.

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>>379871049

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Since this turned into the build thread, can someone r8 what I've got planned and maybe give some alternatives to consider:

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-Z270X-Ultra
CPU: Intel i5-7600K
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 2x8gb
SDD: Samsung 960 EVO 250gb
HDD: Seagate Desktop 3tb

I don't need a case/PSU/etc. because I'll be cannibalizing my old build for them.

>>379878257
not bad, monitor?

>>379878397
I'll be using my old pair of LG 1080@60Hz monitors, might upgrade to 144Hz in the future but probably not any time soon.

>>379878257
Get a Ryzen 1600
Much better than the i5

>>379878537
>might upgrade to 144Hz in the future
do it, the 1070 is overkill for 1080p

>>379878537
Get a 1440p or 2160p IPS screen instead
144Hz is a meme

>>379878924
Kek.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7600K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3885vs3919

>>379878257
swap i5 7600k for ryzen 5 1600, and the motherboard for AB350 gaming 3

>amd cpus
>ever
i dont care if benchmarks or even fps are slightly better, that shit is just unreliable.
intel/nvidia master race

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>>379871049
>non-K
>120gb SSD
>1050 Ti
>Case with no extra fans
>$1200
You got played.

>people are saying non-k like they even know what it means
if he doesn't overclock, there's no point.

ITT: op yer a dumbass fer wasting money vs OP you're a dumbass for NOT wasting more money!!

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>>379871049
>1050Ti

>>379879172
The Ryzen benches consistently worse so even that's not a real consideration.

I live in a 3rd world country and in shops there are guys who assemble all your pc for like 1$ maybe 3$ but the only thing is customs mostly dont let us receive things that come outside of country

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/YxmvK8

Making my first gaming PC and for just general use. Like porn.
I don't play competitive games. Not many multiplayer games either. Just want to play Dark souls and TES games. Terraria. Not sure what else...

I already own a Benq 24" 60hz TN panel. Should I get another second and better monitor? If so, what kind?

>>379871589
>2017
>4 cores 4 threads
Must feel weird being poor.

>>379872880
>1700
>expensive
(lol

Why buy a 1700 when the 7700k exists?

>>379879547
Name five games that properly utilize multithreading.

>>379879489
>Not many multiplayer games either. Just want to play Dark souls and TES games. Terraria. Not sure what else...
You know you could do that with a 400 dollar budget build?

>>379879609
>Why buy a 1700 when the 7700k exists?
Because it has better performance and consumes far less power

>>379879172
The Ryzen lineup shits all over the i5 and i3 lineup, the i7 its still light years away even for the non-overclockable version.

Only shills will take a 1700/1800 over a 7700k.

>>379871589
RAM is cheap and CPUs takes ages to get old, its the only part of your system worth overinvesting in.

While GPUs need replacing every other year, and their performance only matter depending on what your monitor has for specs. For a 60hz@1080p screen, a 1050ti is perfectly okay, while a 1070 would be overkill and thus a waste of money.

>>379879738
>Because it has better performance
In a bizzaro universe in your head

Shoo shoo drone

>>379879715
should i buy a 1440p ips screen? can i build use one?

>>379879134
>>379879368
you won't even notice the minor difference in performance and the R5 1600 is quite a bit cheaper plus it has 6 cores, there is no justifiable reason to buy an i5 when the R5 exists.

>>379879708
Nier Automata
Shadow Tactics
Battlefield 1
Ashes of the Singularity
Titanfall 2
DOOM
Hitman
Dude Sex Mankind Divided
Project Cars
Mass Effect Andromeda
Just about any AAA game released in the last few years

>>379879948
1440p gaming at a steady 60fps needs a bit more than a 400 dollar PC, admittedly, since you need a beefier GPU at least if you wish to play DS3 1440p/60fps. I have a GTX 780 and it isn't quite enough to get 60fps when a lot of stuff is happening on screen. You'd probably need at least 1070 for that. Then again maybe even that wouldn't be enough because Dark Souls 3 is just terribly optimized.

>>379879948
Yes
The 1060 will be able to play games at 1440p just fine (you will just have to lower settings a bit)
I bought a 1440p IPS screen a year and a half ago and I can't go back
Huge difference in image quality

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While the thread is up, i'm looking for advice on how much longer this thing can last. I think it's coming in on almost 6 years old now? I picked up the gpu a while ago, thats been the only upgrade. It still runs most games on max, but it's starting to show it's age.

Any thing I could swap out quick, or is it time to build a brand new one? I did all the research back in the day, but i'm all out of the loop now.

>>379879831
>GPUs you have to replace every year
>1070 is overkill for 1080p

>>379878257
Pretty stable build, I'd probably buy a 500gb ssd though since 250gb is just enough for windows and one or two big games.

>>379878537
I really love 144hz, but many games don't support it and you can't really downgrade yourself from it since the smoothness is addictive. I'd go for a high resolution, high image quality monitor with sync technology instead if I were you.

>>379880271
Top kek, lad.

I don't know the details on some of those, but I do know that DOOM, Hitman, Andromeda etc. definitely do not properly utilize multithreading. They might use some multithreading, but nothing that you couldn't do with 4 cores just as well, and certainly nothing that actually takes an advantage of Ryzen's "just add more weak cores and hope someone figures out how to use them" approach.

I heard good things about AotS though, I'll have to check that one out.

>>379880461
>Dark Souls 3 is just terribly optimized.

No it isn't, 780s are just ancient.

>>379871049
>prebuilt
>did I do good?
No. No you did not.

>>379871049
at this day and age I dont see the point of buying pre built if you plan to play games with it
I mean there are many sites offering PC building service from the parts you want these days

>>379880515
recommend me a monitor pls sir

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>>379871049
here is how much of a retard you are

and that's being generous

5 mins on picpartpicker

>>379880597
>250gb is just enough for windows and one or two big games
That's pretty much what I'll use it for anyway.

I can always get a second SSD later on and use it exclusively for games if I felt I needed it. My case has plenty of room and that motherboard has connections for like 6 drives.

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/CXNnTW/excellent-gaming-build
can i replace the i5 with an i7 in this build

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>>379871049
>5 minutes on pcpartpicker
>Significantly better for slightly more
You can make up the difference by dropping the ricer case if you want. Also Jesus Christ these prices, I wish I was American.

>>379880830
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/YxmvK8

opinions?

>>379880752
I got myself a Dell P2416D for about 230€

>>379880950
>amd
>1060
>asrock

>everyone mocking >16GB of ram
>tfw still have 8

>>379871049
Your graphics card is underwhelming but its otherwise a solid PC.
You'll be gaming most games no problem.

>>379879831
GPUs and CPUs have almost the same life, I had a i5 2500k at 4.5ghz and it was giving me shit frames and stuttering on a GTX 970, when I removed the bottleneck with a Ryzen 5 1600 I was getting 80 FPS in BF1 on Ultra settings. The 10xx series cards are for pushing resolutions past 1080p, if you're not doing that then the 9xx cards are the best option.

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>>379880950
Pretty good
Can't really see anything wrong with it, except for the small HDD
Get at least a 2TB one, not much more expensive

is a 1060 good enough for 1080p 60fps?

>>379881093
i dont understand. im new to this stuff can you help me instead of make fun of me

>>379881093
Asrock is fine.

>>379880527
I think your next upgrade is gonna have to be the cpu, which unfortunately is not a quick swap

>>379880641
why don't you go educate yourself on /g/
specifically /pcbg/

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Should I go for a 1440p@60hz IPS monitor, or a 1440p@144hz TN monitor?

>>379881324
>HDD
alrighty, trying to find a good one now

>>379876174

You'd have to be retarded to buy a 4c/4t cpu over a 6c/12t with almost the same ipc at a slightly lower clock speed

My 4690k hits 90-100% usage on the regular in 2016/17 games. Bf1 is the biggest offender, stutter fest unless I lock the framerate to try to help the cpu

Even Intel knows 4c4t i5s are now a thing of the past since they got competition, coffee lake in August will have either 4c/8t or 6c/6t i5s so now is a really bad time to buy an i5, could have got basically the same thing 6 years ago called the 2500k

>>379881349
yes, unless the game is severely unoptimized

>>379881361
Ignore him
Asrock is perfectly fine
Avoid AB350 gigabyte boards, asus and low end MSI B350 boards
Gigabyte and Asrock have the best X370 boards

Are M.2 drives a meme? Are they a meaningful upgrade from an SSD?

>>379876404
I would go ryzen 1600 + b350 and put the money saved towards a 1070/1080

Is this good enough for faster melee netplay?
http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/inspiron-15-7567-laptop/dncwf513s

>>379877875
1550 for that? I can make a 1080ti build for that money

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>>379871049
>i7-7700(non-k)
>16gb of RAM
Why do all prebuilts have good to great CPU and RAM but scrimp the money on literally everything else???

>>379881651
144Hz for shooters and other fast paced multiplayer vidya.
IPS for sp games.

>>379880646
sure is, but its not that much worse than 1060.

Hey if i only get 60 FPS on most games, a 144hz monitor will make no difference for me right?

>>379881651
apples and oranges mate.

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I'm looking to make a comp that'll last me a long time. Unfortunately I'm a scrub that's new to this shit. I've been using logical increments as a point of reference(By using the grid and looking at the monstrous stuff). Should it cover everything I need? Outside monitor, mouse, keyboard, etc.

>>379882313
Not really. Then again 144hz displays often come with FreeSync/GSync which is nice when the framerate fluctuates from 40 to 70.

>>379881361
Get a b350 motherboard, they still allow you to OC and you most likely won't miss any of the x370 features.
Get a 2TB HDD, while it's easy to add more storage as needed you'll hit 1TB pretty easily and it's cheaper per/GB to buy larger drives.
Everything else is fine or within the margin of personal preference.

>>379881232
This is exactly why I wouldn't recommend a i5 in 2017. They are outdated since Intel just refreshed it over and over for the last 6-7 years or so since the 2500k so the modern Kaby lake i5s are only 20-30% faster than the 2500k.

Had the exact same experience with a 980 + 2500k 4.6, bottlenecked in alot of games. Framerate almost doubled in bf1 after changing to 1600, I think the 980 was only at 50-60% usage with the 2500k

>>379882313
Correct. 144Hz is a meme for non multiplayer vidya anyway.

Tried offering this faggot https://staugustine.craigslist.org/sys/6125595978.html $900 and he started feeling "insulted" and butt hurt all about it saying I wasnt even in the same ball park. Dude wants $1500 despite I could build new with $1500 and get a TI.

>>379882052
The use the cheapest parts.

Probably 2133 ddr4 ram or some shit

>>379882593
No its not. Smoothness is nice. The jump is not quite as big as 30 --> 60 but to say its nothing but a meme is a load of shit.

>>379882619
fuck that guy and look for a better deal.

>>379871049
16gb or ram is useless and your cpu is way too good for your graphics card

Also your case is gay

>>379877901
>they are still double the MSRP of a 480
Fixed.
I got my 1070 for 350. I sold my 480 for 370.

>>379882593
It's a meme because you need a pc the price of a car to have games running that fast

>>379882619
Then build one. The gayming pcs on ebay/craigslist/whatever are overpriced since they sell to normies.

Some retard bought my 2600k + 680 + 8gb ram for £600 last year, I paid around 800 for it in 2012

>>379883250
I am, I wanted to see if I could snag that for $900 because I felt that would've been really reasonable.

>>379883012
>16gb or ram is useless
sure is 2013 here

>>379882530
Just start with a motherboard and continue from there, you can't go wrong from there on out if you pay attention.

Get the rght DDR version and the right MHz for your RAM, many get that wrong.

CPU needs to be the right socket, graphics cards all work with everything.

>>379881967
Evidently. Using parts from Amazon, Newegg is taxed here too. Cart's at about $1,250 without the OS/HDD counted for. First time building a PC.

>>379881482
That's what I figured. Time to dive all back into this shit so I can then waste it playing shit video games. Thank you for your help.

>>379883402
I'd rather have 8gb 3200+ ram than 16gb 2133 that comes with prebuilts

Still no games has ever hit my 8gb ddr3 1866 limit, the most I've seen is bf1 using around 4.5 ram. As long as you don't have 100 Chrome tabs and 20 apps open 8gb is fine

>>379883521
Pirate OS, ryzen is much cheaper than Intels offerings. Put saved money to 1080/ti

>>379883878
Why would you buy 3200 ram. Try and justify it. Your post teems with ignorance.

>>379882052
Many people even computer illiterates tend to know what an i7 means and know at least that i7 > i5 > i3. So prebuilts often lure idiots in with an i7 and then skimp in other areas.

>>379882530
Logical increments has monitor/mouse/keyboard guides as well but they're not updated nearly as frequently. Use a combination of logical increments and pcpartpicker to find things that are priced appropriately(one big issue with blindly following it) and work together(to eliminate the possibility of you being dumb by accident).

>>379871705
Wow you sound poor

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GK99d6
What do you goys think??

>>379884167
Not him but Ryzen benefits greatly from faster RAM.

>>379884474
Get a better heat-sink for that 7700k. And I hope I see 1x8GB ram because you plan to add another stick later on. Also consider an SSD.

>>379884474
>>379884709
Also you're buying a k (overclockable) processor with a mobo that does not support overclocking. Get a Z270 board.

>>379884709
Yeah I plan to get another stick soon but this is just for now, also does a z270 board require a bios update for the cpu?

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>>379871049
This is your pc for 700 euros in amazon without a case or OS (Like anyone pays for it).

Noobie mistake. Don't let it get to you. Sometimes you goof it up. Next time you will know better.

>>379885129
Z170 boards (skylake boards) would require a bios update. Z270 boards which are the boards made for kabylake (intel processors starting with 7) do not. Consider going to /g/'s pc building general for more information.

>>379884474
Either buy a motherboard that lets you OC or don't buy a k CPU
Get dual channel memory, 8GB is fine though.
Try to get a gold rated PSU, 650w would be fine.
Get an SSD, even if it's just for your OS
Get a 2TB drive, it's a better value.

Consider if an i7 and 1080 is worth it to you over an i5 and 1070 and the extra budget for whatever.

>>379885379
oops. Forgot about a motherboard.
Make it 760 euros, 800 if you want something you don't need.

>>379877304
>1.2 million dollars for a 1050TI

Cheap as soap as they say here.

>>379871049
PC gaming is a fucking joke. Not even worth it. Should've used that money to go on vacation. And you still probably would have left over for a Nintendo Switch. You dun goofed

>>379885379
Not american and OP said he was canadian if this is not bait and we have the same fucked up prices as OP but buying an SSD and a meme case instead of better parts elsewhere is his mistake.

>>379871049
>non-k

you done fucked up

>>379871049
That's like a 700 dollar computer my negro

so a better graphics card means higher FPS right?

>>379872515
>falling for the amd meme

ye bra I sure do love having 600 cores that perform as good as a duo core

>>379886563
>>379885379
More like 800, but yeah.

>>379886864
>he still thinks Ryzen is like past processors
educate yourself cuck. AMD is the best buy right now.

>>379877168
And yet it costs the same as a regular 1050

>>379886618
anyone?

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>>379887012
>AMJEW tries to defend MOAR COREZ

Good luck pal but AMD will never win

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>>379871705
Based

>>379884301
Wow you sound btfo

>>379871049
>$1200
>non-k CPU
>1050ti

gr8 b8 m8

>>379881816
M2 drives are not a meme

They're the future

Regular SATA SSDs will die out

Regular HDDs are here to stay because of their reliability compared to regular SSDs

>>379887678
it's not b8, the nigga posted pics

>>379886285
Not everything is about performance. SSDs are great and you really can't go back from one. And while I think buying a tempered glass case on a budget is dumb a good case can outlast basically any other part you buy.

But still, everything in moderation. Cases are a lower priority than not getting a fucking 1050ti.

>>379886618
Not necessarily, some cards do some things better than others
Also research on CPU/GPU cooperation so you don't buy a quad core with a GTX1080 and cry that you're getting 5fps

>>379887579
yes, for the most part. There's other components that influence fps, but graphics cards have the largest impact

>>379872674
this
fuck off retard

>>379887776
Well fuck me then, I had no idea someone could actually be retarded enough to buy a system like that for that kind of money.

>building a $1200 last-gen console
holy shit

Seagate or WD 2tb HDD?

>>379881816
m.2 is just the connector. They can either be run of the mill SATA drives or really fast NVME drives. The difference isn't enough to purposefully upgrade from a SATA drive but there's no reason not to get one if the price is alright.

I buy prebuilt gaming PC's every 4 years, up until this year I"ve been buying gaming laptops. They're super expensive but if the components are good I don't mind, I deserve the best and I have plenty of money.

This year I got my Corsair One which is $1800 lol. Trust me I don't care that I trigger /v/ kiddies with how poorly I manage my money.

>>379889008
I got an NVME drive recently. It only gives you extra perfomance if you handle lots of data constantly, but the real effect on boot times and just general use is zero. I still like to have it because It seems to be the way to go for fast storage in the future, it will be cool to see where it ends up in a year or two.

But yeah, only buy an nvme drive if u are a heavy user or curious for the new technology, the day to day advantages are negligible.

>>379888423
>memegate
>ever
WD black senpai

>>379884167
Ryzen gains like 20-30% with faster ram

>>379880950
unless you plan to use SLI the x370 motherboards are a waste of money. You can still overclock with a b350 board. You'll only lose SLI capabilities

>>379889748
I feel like the benefits are more subtle things that you don't really notice much compared to standard SSDs which obviously blow HDDs out of the water. Like the (theoretically) lower latency or the occasional scenario where it doesn't cause a stutter due to system activity. Overall not something you should prioritize but a nice to have.

>>379889812
>sold out of newegg

wew lad

>>379890991
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Y4kwrH/msi-b350-tomahawk-atx-am4-motherboard-b350-tomahawk

what about this one?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/FamishedPants/saved/BTNLrH

How's my build? Opinions on the Razor items are not needed, I just want to know if this thing would work if I went out and bought all this stuff

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>buying prebuild
pleb.

>Ryzen 1500x
>1050ti
I got them pretty cheap and the build came around at $680. Is this fine for most modern games at high 60fps?

>>379904835
>buying a case with a window.

>>379902692
If you have a windows 7 or 8/8.1 key that you're not using (like from an older laptop or w/e), you can use it to legally activate windows 10. That would save you $100, which you would use to get an i7 7700k, a better gtx 1080 and a slightly better cooler if you plan on overclocking

are you fucking retarded? you could have just downgraded the cpu and halved your ram to get a better video card

>>379905464
I'll have to see if I do have one, thanks.

>>379871049
>1050

Ayy lmao

>>379905405
explain how this is a negative pls?

Amazon third party vendors, worthwhile?

>>379893313
>fell for it
>muh cheap
yeah, pretty much

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>>379906076
It's not.
>>379905405
>not taking the panel off anyway for better ventilation

>>379871049
>$1200
>GTX 1050
Tip top kek m8

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Fuck it, I'm just going to keep using my monitor from last year which is a TN Benq 24" 60hz with this build...
Any changes I should make?
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/YxmvK8

>>379910258
Looks good, but you can shave a few bucks off by not going logitech. If you like logitech then go for it.

>>379910258
Get some Edifier speakers instead of Logitech.

2TB HDD have more GB per $ value so I recommend upping the budget there.

1060 is good for 1080@60hz

>>379911384
the video card I chose is also a good one too?
>>379911319
and when you say logitech you mean both the mouse and speakers??
Okay I will look for different ones. Hope I dont regret using my monitor but i dont know if its worth it to use a 144hz one since im not competitive and just lightly play games

>>379871049
jesus man that's highway robbery

>>379911384
can you link me to these speakers lol
i dont see any on pcparkpicker

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>>379912634
You've got a great build for light gaming plus extra if you wanted it. I do mean the speakers and the mouse. I use pic related. $14 on amazon and I've never had a problem with it after a year. Take your pick on speakers. I use headphones. Also, I'd never advocate for case fans unless you have a special situation that required them or you have autism. It's easier to just take the side panel off.

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>>379871049
Haha you dun fucked up. Now I'm ready to play

>>379914115
hmm. i dont want it to be too light. thanks for the recommendations.
will i be able to play skyrim and dark souls 3 max settings and 60fps with it at least?

maybe some overwatch if i wanted it?

>>379904835
What case and is it available without a window?

>>379915315
Yes, but dark souls max settings I'm not too sure. If you want peace of mind use the savings and put it towards a 1070. The 1070 has the best performance per dollar anyway.

>>379905478
>better video card
He can run basically any modern game at 1080p 60fps, he doesnt need a better gpu unless he wants to play in 1440p

>>379916754
For 1200 dollars though, that boy got robbed

>>379916754
The build is fine, the price is what we're balking at.

>>379918482
got fucked like a catboy trap