Crusador Kings 2

>>379868138

The destiny to remove Moor from peninsula

>>379868138
>actually playing the tutorial
wew

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>>379868559

>>379868138
>what have I gotten myself into
The more you play, the more you will suspect your IRL siblings. Or you might fuck them.

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CK2 is hands down the game that I've had the most fun playing.

>>379868826
That post tells me a lot about you anon. You're alright by me cunt.

I've played 1300 hours on ck2 AMA

>>379868138
Leonese manifest destiny, my dude.

I played so much but I've just gotten sick of it. Once you start blobbing and have an empire it just becomes too dull. And I can't not blob because my neighbours annoy me.

>Hasn't pirated all the DLC
(lol
But seriously, if you do don't use the new portraits, they fucking suck. The only good ones are the black portraits, all others just look bad. I think the artist must have fucking died or something.

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>>379868138

>starting as an iberian catholic

Oh boy are you in for a bad time.

>>379869308
>>379869308
Play as Norse and watch your blob get split up every time a character dies so that you have to scheme, fuck, kinslay and fight wars to get it back.

>>379868138
>assassinating your firstborn grandson because your secondborn grandson has better stats and will make a better ruler
good fucking game

>>379869425
I have 1000+ hours in game and never once played a filthy Muslim.

>>379869680
The only time I did, I died of cancer after 3 generations

>being a Norse pagan and kidnapping the king of frances wife and making her a concubine
10/10 game

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>>379868138
You don't know the half of it.

>>379868559
>not ironically playing tutorials

>>379869546
I already did. Started out as Saxony. Denmark declared War on Sweden so I used my invasion to invade Denmark and won the war just after he subjugated Sweden. Half of Scandinavia and northern Germany under my control after a few years. I raid West francia, he tries to inavde, I let attrition do the work and his wars against the Iberians and revolts + wars with Middle Francia occupy him and conquer some slavs.

I racked up piety from burning churches, reformed the faith, went feudal and got rid of gavelkind. 200 years later christianity is gone and I'm back to fighting muslims.

>>379868138
Just keep playing. System heavy games require time to understand how they work but then it becomes second nature. CK2 is also easier than other Paradox because you're working with quantifiable like individuals and shit, and not some idea of embodying a state.

One counter intuitive thing I have to point it to you that it is MUCH easier to start as a well established larger country than some small one-two provinces country in the middle of nowhere. You want options and interactivity, not being stuck for 70 years developing.

>>379868559
it's actually hard as fuck. the abassid sultanate or whatever shitfuck is occupying iberia together with your greedy ass neighbours make it quite challenging.

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How do I marry this cunt?

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>>379868138
I actually like CK2.

But it is NOT a grand strategy game.

It's "The Sims:Medieval Inheritance Law Edition" with somehow MORE DLC than EA could even dream of making. But I like the sims, so it's fun to me. You pick a dude, set some goals for yourself and experience the Incestuous Magic play itself out while practicing a casual family eugenics program

Search your heart. You know it to be true.

>>379869425
I started my first game of CK2 as a relative of the Ruler of Aragon and did just fine. Managed to take the throne and expand both the Kingdom and the Dynasty. It was a lot of fun while also presenting a worthwhile challenge.

Maybe it's harder now with all the extra DLC.

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>>379870152
>It's "The Sims:Medieval Inheritance Law Edition" with somehow MORE DLC than EA could even dream of making.

But they already did.

>dat OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR2-ElIe37I

>>379870125
Click on the other circle with the question mark and add your character's face in there.

>>379869808
>Be mongol
>declare self Genghis Khan
>Persian emperor decides this is the perfect time to execute his wife, who happens to be my sister
>Invade his kingdom, raze his lands and slaughter his people until persian culture is removed from the world, have his entire family trampled by horses, cut out his eyes and then send him out to tell the world what happens to those who cross the greatest of khans

best part is, real life genghis khan would have reacted in exactly the same manner

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Why is uniting the Empire so hard? How do I prompt a Chaos invasion so I can get the intrigue option?

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>>379870573
SUMMON

>>379870152

Aside from the DLC part which I agree with, couldn't you argue that "The Sims:Medieval Inheritance Law Edition" is the closest Medieval GSG you can get?

I mean that's mostly what that age was.

>>379869425
That image is so right. One of my favorite playthroughs was random Muslim count to Caliph and Sultan of Syria and Jerusalem.

>>379869308
the most fun i've had was scheming as a little count in france and eventually end up with my descendants as emperor of the byz through marriage and assassinating

>>379871097
>when you kidnap your king and force him to sign a document wherein he abdicated the throne to you

course because I was widely known as a scheming snake the kingdom disintegrated instantly but hey, its the thought that counts

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>>379868138
You've gotten yourself into the great tradition that is autism
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HPD3CSQ_fCC0Atw6k5Gkaj7u541oDFrttkhjb86QVaE/edit?usp=sharing
>36,811 words in 57 pages for 684 years
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1syVzNITq6_ddv7zHvjuesHv4jxXepzk3AiUMTBXkp-Y/edit?usp=sharing
>46,992 words in 73 pages and I'm only at 1147AD

>>379870498
>only persian culture is wiped out
wouldn't the real genghis make sure that persia doesn't actually exist anymore

>basilisa of byzantine empire marries heir to france

fuck me

Satanists best cult

>>379870573
you let vlad declare an invasion on you then beat him back. it's undead or chaos invasion, and chaos invasions pretty much never happen since demon princes form extremely rarely.

>>379871427
Rome Reborn

>>379871427
only bad if you're not white
this just mean more politik to be done down the road

>>379871762

>empire of the greeks
>white

>>379871415
that also happened, thought that was pretty much implied by the invasion of persia
annexed the shit out of them, then set every province to razing, executed every single persian in the empire etc.

>>379871427
>Revolt for France happens
>Greeks still keep a large part because of De Jure
I hate it

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>>379871846

>>379872031
that's when you open up the console, to prevent stupidity like that

>italy just became jewish
Monks and Mystics was a mistake.

>>379872153
WE

>>379870081
On the contrary, starting as an irish count is the official easy mode. As long as you don't play in the time of the viking raids.

Still no naval battles?

>>379869308
>blobbing

You're missing the entire point of the game.

Get HIP, start as the Paulician one county militant Christian sect and work your way up to Byzantine emperor.

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ayo yo jelly white boy?

>want to play as a comfy count in a remote part o the kingdom
>scheming factions almost always give me control of the local duchy because reasons

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>kingdom of jerusalem is a merchant republic
muh shekels

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Why are skaven so rude

>>379871480
>op super best Hermetic scholar ruler
>oh boy, I'm gonna do a thesis on the universal panacea and I'm gonna crush it with all this learning stat. Now I will finally have IMMORTALITY
>it just gives a health bonus

You know what, your secrets are bullshit hermetic """mages"""

>>379872983
>be comfy lord of Palermo in Sicily
>emperor makes me viscount of the Balearic Isles for no reason and have to deal with those rebellious fucks

>>379873092
you do know that this manuscript carries on to the next ruler which can then make another manuscript and so forth

also all the other inventions you can create (like the compass and even a big-ass catapult) carry over as well

result is that after a couple of hermetics rulers all your stats are locked at 25+

>>379873065
How do they always know when you're gay. It's supposed to be a secret dammit.

>>379873092
Yeah, but if you do it for a few generations you'll have a bunch of various stat bonuses

>>379870498
Genghis Khan did worse. Millions upon millions died because an emissary was disrespected.

can i remove christo cucks from europe with my andalusia islam state?

>>379870573
Why play this shit when you can play Total Warhammer?

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W-what do

>>379873943
korn is boring, nurgle and tzeentch are a lot more fun.

>>379873507
>attack caravan belonging to the motherfucking mongol empire
>genghis khan himself sends his personal emissaries to sort this mess out
>execute the emissaries, the caravan and send back their heads

I wonder at what point the Khwarezmids figured out they fucked up, badly

>>379873943
ur a cute grill wait for slaneesh fuck khorne

A Game of Thrones best mod

>>379868138
>playing tutorial
t. paradoxplaza

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WHY WONT THIS GAME GO ON SALE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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nomad armies with a good commander are just downright silly
sure it's historically accurate but if I was a player on the receiving end of this, I'd get mad

>>379874356
it's on sale all the time
>not pirating it

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>lost interest in Europa Universalis because of all the DLC in IV
>lost interest in Victoria 2 because I just got bored of it
>never got into HoI
>still love CK2

>>379873767
More role-play faggotry

t. has it open right now trying to build the basis for the greatest chaos resisting empire the world has ever known under a lesbian amazon matriarchy. But first I got to find this damn fountain of youth to preserve my good looks.

>>379874375
Should have been there with CKI when they were op as fuck and they didn't take attrition damage, but your units took attrition damage equal to the amount of units you had in a province plus the amount they had. And the Map stopped a lot further west so they'd ruin Persia or whoever was there and then rape your Crusader Kingdom.

>>379874519
Just pirate the dlcs for paradox games

>>379874375
>heavy cav as mongol
nani?
I'm surprised you were able to proc the OP tactic with that many heavy cav

>>379874584
I meant I don't like some of the changes they made with a lot of the DLCs in IV. The changes in CK2 have been mostly fun.

>>379874356
on sale for 0.00 from rezmar

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>spend so much time and effort making the perfect genetic dynasty
>heir turns out to be a demon spawn

>>379869425
I hate the decadence shit muzzies have.

>>379873767
it's a different style

>>379874634
I'm fairly sure pure heavy cavalry is the most OP build possible.

>>379874634
nothing beats proccing op harass tactics with your archers followed by hilariously op charge tactics with your heavy cavalry

you actually WANT a good number of heavy cavalry as mongols these days

>>379874356
you can get the summer collection key from kinguin for like $20 that has the game and about 70% of the DLC

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>>379868138
Play Victoria 2 instead

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>>379872153
>Khan of the Golden Horde
>Finnic avatar

>>379874835
>>379874979
when did this happen. I haven't looked at tactic since the time they nerf archer retinue.
Mongol had that tactic that reset phase to skirmish again so heavy cav was useless

>>379875163
WE WUZ MONGOLS AND SHEET

>>379868138
>play as a merchant prince Shiite assassin grandmaster that's secretly a Jew
>rolling in money from all them trade ports
>tech bonus events keep firing up cause of your fellow Jew advisors
>slowly infesting the HRE blob with your kin by forcing rulers to marry their offspring to yours
I love CK2

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I just want to be a ruler Ragnar would have been proud of.

>>379875167
due to a persistent bug that tactic is impossible to trigger if you have horse archers in your army

so it's much better to go with a good balance of units to ensure you soften up your enemy properly during extended skirmish, then have a good ol' heavy cavalry charge to finish off whatever's left

>>379875008
Liquor

>>379874979
Too bad the remaining 30% still cost 100+

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>>379872153
>Norman

>>379875557
Best culture in the game desu senpai.

>>379875554
it should tide you over until the rest goes on sale on steam

>>379875554
>buying Paradox DLC
lmao

>>379875509
oh it had another condition of terrain that most of europe isn't composed of.
Make sense

>>379868826
>Put 200 hours in the game unintentionally
I don't know why I keep coming back to it but it's just so fun even with paradox raping it with dlc

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Best game so far, started with in the old gods scenario, managed to hold the empire with the Gavelkind succession and over 2000 family members.

>>379875008
I long for a better constructed economic system. I will wait as long as I have to for Victoria 3.

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>>379876161
>rurikid

What CK2 mods are worth trying ?

>>379876161
I don't think I've ever seen the poo in loos that united before.

>>379874759
>downloading from ruskies
No, thanks. Bill probably used the DNC computers to pirate CK2.

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>>379876161
correction, more than 3000 living members.

>>379876302
Geheimnisnacht and A Game of Thrones.

>>379876295
What's wrong with Rurikids?
>>379876362
I don't know, it was my first time too.

>>379876295
Before the updated German portraits, Ruskies where the top waifus. I make it a point to get only Salians or Rurikid wives.

How do I not get bored of this game after becoiming an emperor?
Also CK2 is making me fap, every time after playing it for 10 minutes i feel I have a raging hard-on

>>379876579
Nothing really. I just personally hate playing as historically successful dynasties. Give me some random no name count over a king or Capet any day.

>>379868138
Where is the "randomized map" feature like in EU4 tho

>>379876302
Try After The End, it's a post apocalyptic USA.

>>379876756
I have unironically jerked it to capturing concubines and seducing your sister many times.

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>>379876286
>Victoria 3
>after the crime against nature that was Goy$

>>379868138
what are you supposed to do in this game? like theres no incentives. you could literally just start a game and let it run and be good for a while. idk what to do

>>379876973
Liberal, Communist and Authoritarian mana

>>379876756
>playing stellaris
>theres an option to become a vassal for an empire or something
>get an erection and imagine myself submissing to superior alien seed
>have to stop playing and masturbate

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>>379877241

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>>379876756
>>379876919
Are you me, anons? I'm now at the point where porn no longer excites me but a few minutes of CK2 will make me rock hard.

>Lustful courtier or tournament attendant tries to seduce me
>Boner rips through my pants

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>>379877097
Expand, crusade, fuck, be an obnoxious dick to your liege. It's whatever you want to do, mate.

>>379876973
Victoria is their baby. Paradox is pretty jewish but not enough to ruin Victoria 3.

>>379877241
>no liquor mana
For shame

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>>379877324
>wife dies and I'm 60 years old
>17 year old cousin proposes matrilineal marriage
Bueno

>>379876919
Playing the AGOT mod as Euron is my favorite scenario
>waifu Asha, your niece
>collect up to 7 salt wives
I swear I get a boner just thinking of who to capture first. The best part is AGOT forces a capture during sieges unlike the random one from vanilla.

HIP or CK2+?

>>379877556
>tfw "but she's such a little morsel"

>>379877556
>>379877324
>sexual rites as a satanist

>>379877756
>Play AGOT
>Capture a Dornish princess (heir)
>Force them to marry you with the "Force Marriage option"
>Inherit Dorne in a generation
You can do it to boys if you're a woman, too. I think they have to be atleast 9 and you have to be cruel, but I'm not sure if the marriage is matrilineal or not. With the guy it's a normal marriage.

>>379877815
HIP if your computer can run it.

>>379877815
Why not both

>>379878192
I've only tried CK2+, what changes does HIP do? The wiki page hardly describes anything.

how do I get into CK2?
I mean I can play EU4, HoI3/4, Stellaris but for some reason I just cant into CK2

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>played hundreds of hours
>Always cheating
>Never finished a single game
CK2 is my favorite and most played game for some reason

>>379878407
Why cheat, the game isn't even that hard
>>379878208
Because they're not compatible

>>379878167
I need this in my life.
Forced marriage is a patrician mechanic no one uses in their games

>>379878336
Play as ireland in 1066 start. Focus on train you and your bloodline as martial characters. Always lead the charge in glorious combat

Has anyone been able to restore the roman empire and mend the great schism on the latest patch/DLC? i swear doing that gets harder with each patch.

>>379878336
Just start a game and try stuff to learn the mechanics
My first game, I got overthrown and died alone in a jail without even succeeding to my second generation
After that, once you understand how most of the game works, start role playing and having fun with how your character is developing. Remember you're playing a person, not a nation: people do stupid things and differ from generation to generation.
My current British Emperor is secretly Slavic, as I became him at age 40, so I'm going along with his beliefs even though Britain has staunchly been Catholic since Charlemagne's era. I don't care if it'll screw me over in the long run, I'm pretty content with most of my possessions, so if I lose things, I'll probably be able to take it back

>>379878516
So try both and switch between them?

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>>379868138
satanic incest simulator

How do I even get into eugenics? What is the basic order of operations there?
Even when I get a genius who has plenty of children the trait seems ridiculously rare to pass on

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Norse Sunni is op af

>>379878751
If I do it will you pay me?

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>>379879080
Ultimogeniture, seduce all the bitches, legitimize the best heir

>>379878751
mending the schism is next to impossible with those retardes secret religious cults, turn them off

restoring the roman empire is just blobbing, nothing special

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>2649 hours in ck2 ever since around Sons of Abraham expansion
>Have mostly played Ironman since I ruin games for myself if I know how to cheat because poor self control
>have never gotten any of the survivor achievements since I expand like crazy given the chance so that no one can give me a game over but me myself and I
>would have to resort to roleplaying character traits to possibly even manage to go through with survivor achievements but haven't actually tried that yet
should I?

>>379879094
I forgot how norse characters in vanilla look like fucking decaying corpses. What were they even thinking when they made the norse pack.

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>>379879640
>mending the schism is next to impossible with those retardes secret religious cults

well one of the issues that caused the schism was the bout of iconoclasm in the eastern empire, so it's only fair

>>379870120
It used to be super easy in vanilla due to you being able to assassinate everyone for 50 golds. A few months and you could kill everyone in your dynasty to inherit the whole of Christian Spain under your desmene.

Nowadays, its as painful as playing a Rurikov in Russia.

>>379870341
Shit game honestly
Just thought i'd point that out

>>379878539
>tfw have to be content with concubinage since forced marriage isn't implemented across the baord

>>379879760
Start somewhere isolated and try to build tall by raiding, don't create more than a kingdom.

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Will Third Rome finally fix EU4?

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EVERY TIME

THANK YOU REAPERS DUE

>>379880368
lol wut

>>379880578
I wish someone had instructed Paradox on what cancer was

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>>379880578
>venezia

>>379880578
>daughter
who cares

>>379880578
snib snib

Can we finally agree.

What is the best primary attribute for a ruler.

> Mil
> Dip
> Ste

Intrigue doesn't need to apply

>>379879526
*secretly pagans
What

>>379880820
Mil>Ste>Dip

>>379880820
Martial early game, steward to get that sweet 10/10 demesne limit once you're king

>>379880820
Stewardship>Diplomacy>Intrigue>Martial.

>>379880760
my family capitol is so pimped out I actually lose income if I get elected Doge

Constant prosperity has elevated it to a max slot holding with every possible holding filled with a city which I personally own, the amount of ducats that makes is just silly

>>379875008
Victoria 2 is pretty much unplayable after circa 1900

t: 2000 hours into the game and micromanaging 600 regiments still does not provide any enjoyment

>>379880768
max female rights ensures I can turn my daughters into high quality advisors for my heir

>>379880893
secret religious cult anon

>>379881172
how do you trigger one? I've never gotten the option for a secret religion

>>379868138
Is there actually a way to win a game on this?
I've sunk hours into multiple games but get bored before I finish driving the heathens out of Europe.

>>379880820
Learning

>>379880936
Steward>Marshall>Diplo>Intrigue
With more steward, you hold more lands so more armies
WIth more marshall, those lands get more soldiers
Wuth more diplo, you're better with your lords to prevent rebellions and your armies can fight enemies outside the realm
With more intrigue, you can kill people and fuck other men's wives, I guess, or you could just defeat them on the feild of battle

>>379881280
>win a game
You have fun and make your historical goals to whatever you see fit

>>379879760
>would have to resort to roleplaying character traits
thats the best way to play, if you play it like a blobbing simulator the game is incredibly boring, because it gets very easy very fast

>>379881337
only exception to that is a nomad ruler where martial trumps everything

>>379881265
Swear fealty to someone, pretend to adopt his religion, found a secret cult of your true faith

>>379881337
War is inefficient at expanding your realm and mercenaries+retinue are far superior to levies.

>>379881574
thats probably a good way to preserve zunism right? I haven't played ck2 with m&m

>>379877324
>>379877556
reminded me of CLQ's playthrough

>>379881779
Yeah, israel is easy af to create too now

but they're unbalanced af, if you're an empire literally every vassal will have a secret religion

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>>379878121
>>379877324


Good taste

I'm still shocked that there isn't a way to use any CoA from packs on your character/subservient dynasties, hell you can't even designate a colour/non-duchy CoA for custom titles

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>start as shitty duke in astorias
>realm gets fucked by muslim invasions
>declare independence war and win coz everyone is weak
>slowly retake territories in northern spain
>smite every unbeliever in name of christ
>discover satanists in my court and imprison then kill them all
>becoming old
>wife died and have only 3 female daughters
>must spread genes
>fucked 3 different courtiers in francia and england
>6 daughters now
>spend the last 20 years of my life cucking europe
>finally have son
>homossexual
>die as an sinner and go to hell

more people should get in this shit.

Starting the Game of Thrones mod, what are the best starts for maximum Happening?

>>379869308
Eh I usually start plotting to get my dynasty members on foreign thrones once I've established a nice kingdom for my own.

>>379882586
Yi Ti

Is the Way of Life DLC any good? Which DLCs are most worthwhile?

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>>379880820
>not always having 30 martial psychopathic warlord rulers
>not always leading your men into battle and cutting down anyone that gets in your way with 15 personal combat skill

>>379882769
>Way of Life
>Old Gods
>Sons of Abraham
>Sword of Islam

Are essentially mandatory.

>>379869847
but would you?

>>379882586
aegon is pretty cool but the 3 dragonriders make it pretty cheesy

>>379882769
wait for a christmas sale or something and the (mostly) full package will be like 30 bucks or some shit

>>379882586
start as the north

its easy to establish a foothold, declare wars, etc.
and when you least notice you have the whole continent.
the only problem is the rought shitty starting troops you get, plus never trust counts.

>>379882586
also try to get the proud trait so you can go on a mission to get a valryian sword for your dynasty

>>379874356
>buy the game for 5-10 bucks whenever its on sale
>pirate all the DLC
>enjoy regular updates and working online MP

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>tfw you become the wall of Christendom

The Byzantines also became Catholic for some reason.

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>>379882795
>not becoming Suomenusko
>not sacrificing every one of your body part that can be sacrificed to the ancestors
>not gaining 40 Martial and 10 Health through that
>not being a blind cripple with no dick and no arms who can lay waste to entire armies alone

>>379874790
No that's great. Once you die and are playing as said demon spawn, he basically stops being retarded (because now a human is handling him) and becomes a nigh unkillable dark god with fucking demon armies, dark powers, and near infinite regeneration.

>>379882586
Start as Mannis in the WotFK start and conquer Westeros with your free 100k troops

>>379883457
The last Emperor of Byzantium was actually Catholic, that's why his nobles betrayed him to the Turks and didn't contribute to the war effort. As a knock-on effect, the Emperor couldn't afford the bombard that was later used to hammer his walls by the Turks.

>>379881336
Finally someone that knows what's up. Crank out them Magnum Opi and you pretty much make your entire lineage supermen.

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>playing as a demon spawn SLUT Roman Empress

HNNNNG

>>379883919
>demon spawn
>slut
>woman
>still over 1000 piety

>>379883919
>aquitaine
why

>>379882586
Essaria, the valyrian colony in the Centry of Blood start date.
Wall off the Dothraki Sea from the horsenigs and prepare against Volantis stuck in anschluss mode.

>tfw managed to spawn joan of arc
Baguatte or something

>>379883919
>aquitaine
Don't tell me you're on gavelkind.

>>379883523
>played ironman Suomenusko before Reaper's Due
>learn about all the good features being added to defensive pagans, but I want my Charlie to 1432 achievement
>ironman broke in 1300AD after starting in Charlemagne because of load orders with aesthetic mods or something
I'm still mad

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>>379884264
>>379884119
>roman empire
>gavelkind
wtf guys? a kinsman ended up inheriting it that's all

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>>379883919
Playing as whores is so OP.
You can start as any countess under 40 with the attractive trait and literally fuck your way up an empire. [spoiler[Just like in real life[/spoiler]

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>>379874103
>Not Slaanesh in what is essentially one big incest simulator

>>379884249
>joan of arc spawned inbetween crusades and mostly just fought peasant rebellions and Polish traitors
Too pure for this world
The Aztecs converted to Christendom later

>>379880995
>play Germany
>reach 1880
>imediately lose all motivation to continue because I'm number one in literally everything, even have a stronger fleet than the fucking UK
Why are Paradox such Reichaboos?

>>379870685
Jesus christ wtf is that fucking manga

>>379883529
>3 witches of legend spawn to help you fight wars
>absurdly high stats for all of them
>slots for 3 concubines
hmm...

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>>379883919
But I was

>>379884630
Goblin Slayer.

>>379868138
a strategy game without any strategy, where you just move numbers at any numbers and whoever has the biggest number wins, except maybe just maybe if the numbers are really REALLY similar you might be able to turn it around with a river or a mountain
and you collect a bunch of completely interchangeable provinces and change the color of a map
and if you start out weak you'll stay weak forever unless you manage to finagle your dynasty in to a higher position, or you're in a kingdom and can make war with other useless tiny people and THEN manage to finagle your dynasty in to a higher position
and despite you being so limited and constrained for the sake of muh realism, the game isn't realistic at all, and the moors will easily conquer castille in spite of all the reasons they historically couldn't (mainly that it was all impenetrable hills, and there's nothing actually there to motivate them. They didn't just want clay for the sake of clay the way the AI does) and also there are randomly generated guys who will literally just pop out of nowhere with a bunch of soldiers generated from thin air, with no support or supply requirements, and it's an army larger than your entire country can support. Peasant revolts are the same thing, as well.

>>379884630
>>379884698
do they gangbang her at some point?

>>379884505
I was Jerusalem,she spawned while Sunnis and Shiites were peacefully seeking refuge in my lands.
She saved my ass and i ended up marrying her.I quit once she died of old age.

>>379884859
>a strategy game without any strategy, where you just move numbers at any numbers and whoever has the biggest number wins, except maybe just maybe if the numbers are really REALLY similar you might be able to turn it around with a river or a mountain
see
>>379874375

>>379884867
they rape others

>>379884639
Now show us the individual kingdoms.
If the kingdom boarders don't perfectly match the de jure boarders your empire is shit.

>>379885039
i wanna see

>>379884859
9/10 of that is all wrong
Am I being baited by copy pasta?

>>379884560
Because Germany was historically capable of being a complete powerhouse at nearly any time but got hit with constant bad decisions.

Paradox is actually a bunch of Swedaboos. Their ideas in EU4 is crazy fucking OP.

>>379885078
They don't because I use teleporting levies

>>379885107
Google it then nigger.

>>379885078
this seriously triggers my autism. i never get anywhere because i keep revoking titles so that these idiots stay in their realms and stop messing up my map.

>>379885107
It's in chapter one
Just look it up

>>379883663
Funfact: On the last day of the siege of Constantinople the Emperor proclaimed that Catholics and Orthodox were the same as a symbolic gesture and they all went to church one last time as one.

Form what i have read it seems the guy could have been a good emperor if the circumstances were different.

>>379885029
>the bigger number won
wow what a rebuttal. Look at all those completely meaningless stats of things you have literally no control over, too. such depth!
>>379885148
I wrote it, and it's all true. Paradox games fucking suck.

>>379885203
they should bring back the "leavies are always raised on a county basis" from the earlier version of the game

would make managing large empires a lot more difficult

>>379879080
get genius, strong, attractive into your family line
marry your genius, strong, attractive sister
???
bueno

Playing as a count in the HRE is boring as shit, you will always get elected emperor no matter what.

I just want to go Independent and form Germany.

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>>379885203
>because I use teleporting levies
Doesn't know how to play the game so uses cheap tactics for retards, what else could I expect?

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I stopped playing since the AI added that thing where you can pick a focus or something like that. The reason being that it seemed like half the lords picked the fucking seducer trait and I think after 20 ingame years every newborn was a bastard.

Did they tweak the AI to tone it down? I'm willing to believe infidelity was a thing in nobility 1000 years ago but not to this extreme surely

Can you marry your mom in this game?

>>379885165
>nearly any time
Not really. 19th and early 20th century were Germany's time to shine and they did

>>379885472
>bigger number won
check again, attackers had 17176 troops, defenders had 34935 troops, attackers won a devastating victory

>>379885604
pretty sure zoroastrians can do any kind of incest

>>379885604
I believe there was like 1 tiny ass culture in the east of europe that allows yo to do that.

>>379880820
Way back during the game's release I used to go full-on Stewardship, but now I prioritize Diplomacy over everything else.

I don't know how true this is now since I haven't played the last few expansions, but I found back then that having above 10 diplomacy pretty much ensured you'd never have to deal with vassal troubles.

>>379885203
I have 260 hours in.
How do I into teleporting levies?

>>379879080
I believe genius has 15% chance of passing on, so if both parents have it, it's 27.75% chance of passing on

>>379868138
I want to like and understand this game after being a huge civ4 nerd but I can't really get into it help

>>379885579
there's an option to stop the AI from choosing it as a focus now. lots of people got tired of getting cucked all the time.

>>379885579
No but the game rules let you turn off seduction focus for the AI now because the AI kept trying to seduce the player and wouldn't fuck off even if you gave them a flat no.

>>379885787
give a kingdom level vassal a single province at each of your empire's borders, raise levies in that province, congrats the entire kingdom's worth of levies now got raised as a single army in that one province

>>379885579
That has been fixed, you can a. turn that off so that the AI doesn't try to bang everyone because they picked it and b. they pick it far less often
Don't trun it off though, it's fun to have the occasional arch-bishop have bastards.

>>379885604
zoroastrians and messalians can

>>379885203
wait, you can chose where levies spawn now? how?

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>>379868138
Your game looks like a lot of DLC are missing. Quick! Head to Steam's store! It would be a shame to not enjoy a full CK2 experience!

problem with the seduction focus is that it's one of the 2 focuses possible to enable while in prison so the AI has a massive chance to pick it once imprisoned and is then unlikely to change away from it (as the AI barely changes focuses)

>>379882886

I thought Way of Life was mostly unimportant? Maybe you meant Charlemagne was mandatory?

>>379886226
>problem with the seduction focus is that it's one of the 2 focuses possible to enable while in prison
Last time I checked it was theology and scholarship

>>379870120
>Jimena dynasty playthrough
>hard

you can get Iberia in like 100 years if you're not a shithead, especially with Alfonso, you can literally triple your territory in like a few years, and then reconquista the fuck out of the muslims, simultaneously, marry a claim on the duchy of barcelona and simply fabricate on navarrah and the king of aragon. you'll be the 2nd most powerful empire in europe and should also have conquered Jerusalem, making you an absolute beast. you will be plauged by constant uprisings but you'll have plenty of money from the lucrative iberian providences, especially Granada. Fat taxes. Fat papal relations. Fat women. Fat clay.

Let yourself sink into Ck2 and you'll have hundreds of hours invested into it before you know it. Beware.

>>379886412
unless they fixed that it's theology, scholarship and seduction

>>379886280
Way of Life adds a ton of in between shit to do while you're waiting for things to happen.

>>379886280
Way of Life is excellent for roleplaying (which is the main draw of the game). Charlemagne is mostly pointless unless you really want Europe to go completely insane.

>>379886280
>Way of Life was mostly unimportant
It is important if you roleplay, if you don't it's still preety important. Plus it's cheap.

Once you get started, you can never turn back.

>>379886091
>wait, you can chose where levies spawn now? how?
You've been able to for the longest time, just manually raise the levies in a province instead of the raise all button

>>379884859
>Were you just move numbers at any numbers and whoever has the biggest number wins, except maybe just maybe if the numbers are really REALLY similar you might be able to turn it around with a river or a mountain
Nope a army led by good generals will collapse a force double it's size with some good tactics let alone having some heavy cav or pikemen retainers will do

>and if you start out weak you'll stay weak forever unless you manage to finagle your dynasty in to a higher position
What are Republics?
What are Retainers?
What are tributaries?

>the moors will easily conquer castille in spite of all the reasons they historically couldn't (mainly that it was all impenetrable hills, and there's nothing actually there to motivate them.
Correct

>also there are randomly generated guys who will literally just pop out of nowhere with a bunch of soldiers generated from thin air, with no support or supply requirements, and it's an army larger than your entire country can support. Peasant revolts are the same thing, as well.
Wrong they got nerfed to hell and peasant revolts at best raise up a few thousand men but you can win with half the men because their all light infantry and after taking a few provinces they lose even more numbers


Bad bait that might of worked two years ago

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Is decadence less annoying now? I stopped playing since horse lords. I actually enjoy playing muzzies every once in a while, but decadence does get annoying as shit.

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>>379885712
>character dies
>his son takes over
>marry sister
>take 2 cousins as concubine
>take his mother as concubine

>>379886496
Who the fuck are you going to seduce in an oubliette? Makes no sense.

>>379885806
I think Civ is ultimately actually harder than CK2. You really just need a crash course of starting a game, looking at the warning at the top of the screen telling you what urgent issues you need to deal with, and trying to fix those. Then you decide what you want to do.

>>379886946
the qt female jailer

>>379885670

Unfortunately you have to be extremely gamey (or have a giant realm already to support a retinue) in order to have armies that are just horses. The game would be immensely improved if higher legalism/crown authority allowed you to split retinues into flanks by unit type.

>>379886678
Doesn't that only raise the levies for that holding? Can you post a screen of which button you're talking about.

>>379886946
your jailers

you can literally seduce your way out of prison, there's an event for it

>Playing as a berber, Sultan of Morocco
>Raiding Venice
>capturing some qt italian chicks to serve as secondary wives

Is there any better feeling?

>>379887131
when was the last time you played the game?
Nomads are literally incapable of having anything other than horses

>>379887131
>Or you have a dlc that focuses on hoards

You know you can split retainers and put them into different flanks right

>>379887215
I can imagine a filth ridden starving man seducing the jailer by yealling down from a hole in the ground. Makes sense.

>>379887230
Muslims can force marriage? I thought you can only do concubines and only religions that support concubinage.

>>379887230
they have the positive genetic traits, too

>>379870125
>20 combat
>1 intrigue
>brilliant strategist

>>379887486
eyy, it's worth a shot, what else are you gonna do in the pit but serenade the local princess in hopes she falls for it

>>379887509
yeah you can "recruit" them

>>379887136
No it raises the entire levies of the vassal, but it only works for vassal levies, not your own demesne, so thei starting morale is shit.

>>379887465
>>379887406

That's right, I forgot that that's part of the reason why hordes were always overpowered, they got what everyone has to be gamey to get (by gamey I mean only upgrading one type of building in your holdings to get one type of troop).

I stand by the point that the game would be improved if you could split retinues by unit type, since it would actually put some strategy into putting together your flanks.

>>379869425
Playing coptic Christians are the most interesting experience. Enemies everywhere. The Sunni blobs are all out for everything you own. You are too far from any of the major powers for them to help. So you gotta build yourself up to be their worst nightmare.

The only good thing is that the plaque does not reach you in your corner of the world.

>>379887923
>That's right, I forgot that that's part of the reason why hordes were always overpowered, they got what everyone has to be gamey to get (by gamey I mean only upgrading one type of building in your holdings to get one type of troop).
But hoards can only build horse troops and can only have "one" proper holding with grazing lands and manpower

>I stand by the point that the game would be improved if you could split retinues by unit type, since it would actually put some strategy into putting together your flanks.
You can do that

>>379887905
Oh, right, it started as a talk about empires and having vassal kings. I got in on the middle and I thought it was personal levies that can all be raised in one place.

>>379888376
>play in east africa
>get buttfucked unless I do real gamey and reloading shit
I miss Abyssinia and chill, those aggression changes suck

>>379888376
attacking coptics should cost double or even triple piety for muslims because it's literally in their holy book they should leave ethiopia alone

>>379887813
meh, can't do it with landed characters so it's not as boner inducing.

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>Torrented CK2 a few months ago
>Couldn't understand what was happening
>Uninstall in a fit of autistic confusion
>tfw brainlet
I JUST WANT TO CRUSADE

ck2 always gives me an erection, even when I am not doing anything remotely lewd. Anyway has m&m become polished and stable? I always stop playing for a while when they release a major dlc like that and just wait for the polish

>>379889234
it's easy now with satanist cults cause you can bypass shitty inherit laws and kill people that want to revolt

Is there a more doomed start than Socotra? I just want to be a Messalian in peace in my tiny island but muzzies keep knocking at my door.

>>379889785
independent qalat in 765
poor little buddhist in d.baluchistan that the uber caliphate tends to holy war immediately

>>379889549
It provides a lot of new content to do so there's less downtime in the game if you're starting small. The balance around it is fucking terrible though.

>>379890279
>The balance around it is fucking terrible though.
well I guess I'll wait some more

>>379890562
It depends, really. If you're a large empire, cults are aggravating. If you're starting as a small county, cults will save you from getting eaten by large empires.

>>379890562
>introduce alchemy, potions and ingredient gathering
>forgot to actually implement a use for them
t-thanks paradox

Who else hyped for Tibet?

>>379892615
I remember using some in an event when i was part of that alchemist cult. I think it was about doing a ritual to improve my stats, it showed me the option to use some of my ingredients to improve the chance of success.

Which secret society anon? Satanists are too overpowered.

>>379892772
I'm more interested in whatever they're doing with the adventurer turks

currently in the case of seljuk it's fucking broken and he doesn't get the dynasty required to use manifest destiny wars

desu thoguh I'm fucking rushing to play Kashmir/Khotan once it hits

>>379888643
That's interesting. Thanks anon!

But coptics are still being bombed today?

>>379890562
The holy orders are terrible. The assassins, hermetic society and satanists are good. Who has access to what societies are also extremely one sided and pagans are pretty much screwed out of everything but the religion cult or their version of satanists.

>>379893621
Start with Hermetics always. The top tier Magnum Opus set end up as a stacking +17 total to stats with a health bonus and various prestige/piety bonuses. Not to mention some particularly potent inventions like the handgun and plate mail. All of them inheritable.

>>379892772
Isn't there a mod that adds it?

>>379898181
Now I want to be a nomad learned khan who writes great works of art.

>>379898883
No nomads allowed

>>379899237
Slightly disappointed but I can easily mod it out.

>>379898883
Talking about Nomads, did they ever fix that "Nomad lands are given back if you die" thing? that shit was unfair as hell.

>>379895656
because ISIS has never ignored inconvenient parts of the Koran before right?

>>379899430
You can game it by being a secret member of an appropriate religion just like how you can be an assassin even if you're a secret muslim. Secret religions mean dick unless you're part of the cult anyway so it's gamey but you can just pretend your open faith is still your real one and your secret religion is just something you joined to get into the secret society.

>>379873767
>>379870573
I'm trying to turn Brettonia into a Blood Dragon kingdom under the Red Duke, slowly spreading out my mortal family using carefully planned marriages and then turning the most powerful among them into true vampires. It was going really well about until the fourth generation or so and then there was just so much incest. Just... so much. I don't know how they managed to go from one to Hapsburg in less than fifty years, but by gum they managed it.

Somehow one of the human members of my court had a dark elf twins. If I can somehow, SOMEHOW manage to find them brides they'll be perfect additions to my armies, although I suspect their incest problem will be even worse than my dynasty's.

SALE FUCKING WHEN

>>379900538
You can't game being a different government type though

>>379903036
Yes but the point is societies are not based on governments but on religions. So yes, you can be a Hermetic Kahn.

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>>379904213

>>379905985
guess i'm a shitter then

>>379900507
NO! they're literally a perfect representation of islam and represent all muslims!

>>379902653
Is there any kind of means or mod to have kids with a different species, like dwarves or elves? I want that shit bad, but they're always stillborn

>>379879770
>in vanilla

Are you using the portrait mod that's in HIP?

>>379883279
>working online MP
H O W
O
W

>>379908039
Isn't it connect to an IP the player inputs

>>379907027
Change your race to your partner race for time of pregnacy and birth when child survive rewert to you race. Once i had Bug that my half elf switched from elf to human after few months (prbly auto chceck from mod) but he survived

Addtrait creature_human /elf etc.

>>379909091
Do you have to remove your current race trait for that time period as well?

Is that Warhammer mod any good?

>>379910294
It's not complete and it's rough in some areas due to the game's limitations but as a whole it's fun as dicks. Once the new version comes out to bring it in line with the newest DLC, the Chaos cults and shit should be a lot more fun to play.

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>>379869808
>Kidnap a 4 year old descendant of Muhammad and heir to the Muslim blob in Spain
>Raise him to be a fanatical Norse viking
>Assassinate his father, letting him get the throne and leaving Spain to tear itself apart getting NORSED

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>>379910814
Norsing the Middle East is always fun.

>>379868138
>mfw I build a dynasty impregnating my sisters

>>379900507
>copts == ethiopia

I know the Warhammer mod is supposed to be good but what's the best historical mod for CK2? I've played previous versions of HIP but I'm just wondering if there's anything better.

>>379869385
the German and English portraits are the best in the game mate.