FFXIV Stormblood

Quit the game the day they ruined Holy.

You just gotta hunker down for an expansion or so, WHMs. Then you'll get to be reborn as a god, like AST and PLD before you.

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A-are we sure DRK will still be good

Ever since the SS change was confirmed fake, i've been leveling PLD just in case. But I don't want to ditch my boy DRK

>>379823630
The changes to DRK sound like an improvement to people who don't know DRK well.
It's actually a disaster for people who do know DRK.

>>379823302
Stoneskin died for this piece of shit.

>>379823630
pretty sure it's still the best mt by a decent margin and it's probably still the best for speedrunning dungeons and shit

>>379823630
DRK is good. The tanks pretty much just played musical chairs. PLD gets DRK's old spot, DRK gets WAR's old spot, WAR gets PLD's old spot. Except this time it's all more balanced in general and you aren't doing it wrong if you're OTing as a PLD, MTing as a WAR, etc.

>>379823761
>DRK is is a coin toss for being good/meta or absolutely WAR-tier shit
>WHM is forever cuck shed material
>MCH is ????
>MNK looks to be still the shittiest melee DPS
i just can't catch a break

>>379823302
New to the game, how are the devs in regards to player feedback? Do they often listen and change shit you guys want?

DRK will be meta because its DPS looks to be about the same as PLD, it can generate more aggro on opener, and it has offtank utility unlike then new WAR

PLD MT/DRK OT will be the new meta

>>379823905
MCH is just dropped all pretense of being a "support" where BRD fully embraced it.

>>379823428
Just started I'm lvl 56 what did holy use to be?

>>379823945
They listen to whiny babies and ignore experienced players, and sometimes do shit just because lol

See: buffing PLD, nerfing MNK

>>379823630
I'm not worried about DRK's position in the meta, but more worried about if it's going to be fun or boring as shit.

>>379823630
This is a WHM thread darky

Just finished HW MSQ and now I'm stuck with ilvl 145 gear. What's the fastest way to go up in ilvl to finish the MSQ.
I don't want to do hunts since I never did hunting logs, and my ilvl is too low for frontlines. What do?

>>379824059
Considering it's now PLD, it's going to be boring as shit.
But hey at least PLD is now an easier DRK with worse animations so you can pretend you're still playing DRK :^)

>>379824059
fun for casuals, boring for vets

Remember to bully console players

>>379824019
most of the big aoe skills weren't reduced by the amount of enemies that it hit
that reduction is pretty much across the board for aoe skills in stormblood tho

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>tfw just reached level 60 with BLM

hoooooooly shit lads it's like a whole new class

>>379824146
>I never did hunting logs

Start

You can buy white i150 armor from the azyz lla vendor and i170 accessories from the centurio seal vendor. That will open up PvP for easy ilevel.

>>379824146

you may be able to grab some sky pirate gear off the market board for cheap

just get to the ilevel where you can do frontlines and you can get a full i235 set

>>379823862
Most incorrect statement in the thread.

If DRK got WARs spot then that would mean DRK is the best tank in 4.0, but it isnt. You're probably reffering to DRK mainly OTing but that's not going to happen either. the old PLD still wanted to MT so I guess that means the new WAR wants to MT now? No.

PLD got the WAR treatment in that its the best tank, but they also removed any reason for DRK to MT by killing reprisal and low blows for them. The tanks basically played musical chairs except instead of two chairs, yoshi only gave out one chair that had "PLD" written on it, paid for by PLD babby tears over the past 2 years.

>>379824059
It looks more fun than before IMO

Bloodspiller is much more interesting than Scourge

Four DA variations on the same basic combo is more interesting than two DA variations on the same basic combo

Having an extreme amount of bandwidth to funnel MP directly into damage and managing that with your party's buffs is more interesting than hitting every oGCD available as they come off cooldown

And The Blackest Night is one of the coolest and most useful/powerful skills this game has ever come up with

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tfw just over 5 days left and I don't think I'm gonna make it

>>379823905
MCH main here

I'm fuckin scared bros

>>379823945
They were good with feedback all throughout 3.x and then dropped the ball with 4.0

Why the FUCK did they go back to the old tank damage ratings except now make slaying gear melee DPS only? What the fuck? What was wrong with the current system?

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Is there some bug with ACT's alliance parsing?

>>379824440
24mans have never parsed right, in my experience
also
>parsing 24mans

>>379824343
>>379824348
Sounds good.
Anything I should know about frontlines if I never did it?

>>379824330
enjoy it for the next week before they change it around again

>>379824440
>parsing alliance
that's just asking for trouble

>>379824503
just curious to see what my dps is like compared to all of them it's shit

>>379824557
stick to the herd and dps ices. Nothing else is expected of you.

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>>379824581
fuck I was supposed to be level 60 by April I hate university so much

Experienced WoW player here, gonna jump ship. I will boost to stormblood too, my question is what job should I boost. I played main tank before. Dark Knight looks interesting but i am open to suggestions. Thanks

>>379824354
You're aware that that spreadsheet that's floating around trying to indicate that PLD has some ridiculous 25-30% damage advantage over DRK/WAR is complete horseshit and riddled with errors, right?

Best-case scenario for PLD, worst-case scenario for DRK/WAR, is that PLD outdamages them by about the same margin that WAR currently outdamages DRK (ie: not nearly enough to make taking two of them worth the hit to LB generation). And even that is pretty unlikely.

>>379824684
DK is the "busiest" tank what with the fact that they have to constantly drain MP without actually running out in order to use their best moves.

>>379824684
What kinda tank did ya play ?

Dont listen to the fags talking shit about Wowfugees they're autistic as fuck.

>>379824684
Dark Knight is fun, highly recommend it.

still no idea what I want to play

split between MCH, AST, maybe just stick with SCH

MCH would be the easy pick if DPS queues weren't going to be so fucking bad once everyone hits 70

>>379824684
>boost
Fucking WoWfugees.

>>379824684
paladin is looking to be the best tank overall, at least at the start of the expansion and assuming everything works like people are expecting
at any rate the biggest time sink is the msq and leveling doesn't take all that long if you have a max level class already, especially for tanks

>>379824735
Im fully aware. It doesnt change the fact that everything went right for PLD by:

-removing delirium, reprisal and path in exchange for the debuff on halone. because rage of halone was so good in the first place
-adding magic blocking
-severe potency buffs and fight or flight cd reduction
-none of their old skills were touched at all, unlike DRK and WAR
-blocking has always been an unfair advantage as its free mitigation with no downside, and now it works 360 degrees
-better utility than the other tanks with the introduction of intervention and the cover buff
-all while remaining the easiest tank to play
- oh and they keep shield swipe so PLDs will hog MT while DRK got cucked out of reprisal and low blow and blood price and WAR serves no purpose anymore.

>>379824684
I haven't heard about them changing this so it might be wrong come SB, but for Dark Knight you have to be level 50 and get into the first expansion content before you can unlock the Job. If you're just starting out you'll have to tank as Paladin or Warrior, and either look to be viable in SB.

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>ever since FFXIV 1.0 wanted RDM
>they're adding it finally
>it's a dps
>dps queues are shit
>new expansion has 2 new dps, nothing else
>already shit-tier dps queues will now be 10x worse

I don't know if playing RDM is worth those queue times

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>>379824330
It's shitty game design really.
A level-cap skill is something that should make your life easier; something that takes the skills and rotation you've been polishing up to this point, and simplifies it in a way that lets you better-handle the surprises that will inevitably crop up at endgame. Think Perfect Balance or Armor Crush. What it should -not- be is a skill that fundamentally changes the way a job is played.

In 3.0 I got to Lv60 BLM, queued up for Neverreap then realised I hated the class and swapped to healing after. Because juggling two extremely-tight timers wasn't fun when the game goes out of its way to make you move constantly which fucks with your timing.

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>that feel Warrior is reduced to Fell Cleave spam
>will never be able to bust out those AoE moves except in trash dungeons

>>379824684
You wont get to start out as a DRK, but we currently don't really know how the classes are gonna work out yet because everyone is getting re balanced / changed.

>>379825165
are you retarded?

Fire IV is the best thing to happen to BLM

Wait, so is Stormblood shit? I'm about to bite the bullet and jump in as a new player.

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As a MNK main I'm holding up quite poorly. This was supposed to be our expansion.

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>>379825165
>WHMfags

>>379825071
they only explicitly said there were no job boost potions for rdm and sam, so presumably drk/ast/mch are available

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>>379825238
Learn to read dipshit.
Fire IV would have been fine if you obtained it right after Enochian. Getting it as a level 60 skill is the problem.

>>379825335
Just play the new MNK class, the SAM :)

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>>379825137
Just play RDM. These queues won't last forever, people will stop playing RDM/SAM in a few weeks.

>it's a "abloo bloo bloo WAR a shit now"
Y'all wanna wait for the patch notes to appear before making that sort of judgment?

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>>379825419
To wit, Blizzard IV (or Sharpcast) should have been the 60 skill since it lets you maintain Enochian (or your Astral Fire windows) easier.

>>379825179
And then o2s is another trash fight and WAR is required for 6x zerk decimates

>>379825419
>>379825585
Shit like this is why I don't think that jump potions are going to flood the world with more shitters than we had before. Classes already got massive playstyle changes during the last few levels 50-60, people like BLM had to relearn the entire class at 60, so it's not like the prior levels were integral.

>>379825137
>wanted RDM since FFXIV 1.0
>never crossed your mind it would be a DPS
It's already gonna start at lvl50, just grind it up in the new POTD and then start the MSQ of Stormblood with it to level it.

>>379825580
>wait for the patch notes to appear before making that sort of judgment
You must be new here. This is knee-jerk central.

>>379823945
They change a lot of shit, even overbuff just so people will play certain jobs (first MCH, then BRD got buffed to MCHs level, then last ditch effort to show AST wasn't a failure by buffing the fuck out of them in 3.4 on a new raid tier)

>>379825295
It's not even out yet.

>>379825580
Reading the OF is fucking painful, especially since I fucking know most of the WARs there more than likely never ever main tanked as one and just love Fell Cleave, it's so aggravating.

>>379825653
>mnk is the only class that didn't get wide ranging aoe potency nerfs, plus you gain chakra passively now for purification
monk is saved boys

>>379825064
Reprisal and Path were actively detrimental to the game, because of how ludicrously powerful they both were (particularly Path) and because Reprisal had a shitty design that forced DRK to always MT both for their party utility and for their DPS.

Magic blocking is extremely powerful, to the point that I never thought they'd actually do it, but between that and DV/PoA, they're finally really cemented as the "defensive" tank, in a way that SE can actually build a class identity around.

The potency buffs are practically guaranteed to be at least partially reverted. Both the English and Japanese media builds were taken from a point where Fight or Flight was being actively changed, to the point where neither language's tooltip reflects the duration reduction on it. Potency reductions are almost guaranteed after giving FoF such a buff.

Every old skill that was removed/altered on DRK and WAR was replaced with something that ended up being an overall buff.

RNG mitigation is never worth crying over.

The Blackest Night is generally going to be equal/better utility than Intervention/Cover.

PLD difficulty was never much different than WAR difficulty.

You got me with Shield Swipe though; I'm surprised they kept it and I don't think it's good that they did.

>Early days of ARR.
>Trying to find a free company.
>Keep leaving FCs because they all are lacking a community, have drama, is too cliquey.
>Fuck it, I'll start my own l, I start an FC.
>FC begins to thrive, sense of comradery and community forms in FC.No drama, people help each other out. Awesome conversations had in FC chat. People always looking to do stuff together.
>it's what I'd always looked for in an FC.
>Life happens, I take a break from the game.
>Years later I return, FC is no more.
>Old FC member sends me a tell, is glad I'm back, says FC fell apart after I left.


:C

Who's going to be farming POTD with your FC on SAM and RDM?

SAM is going to be my main for sure.

>>379825705

I'm not complaining about the fact it's a dps.
It's that DPS queue times have always been garbage.

Then on top of that, the expansion is adding nothing but DPS classes, which means the the queue times will be even worse since people will want to play the new classes.

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>Being the only dps who wasn't hit by landslide on the titan
>Starting messing your rotation because shits get worse

>>379825795
>mfw in the biggest and best FC on my server
>Always at #1 on the lodestone

Feels good

The only jobs i'm worried about being shit are WHM and MCH. Everyone else can easily be tweaked. But WHM is doomed and MCH gets no group buffs while BRD is getting a shit ton more.

>>379825879
people are such babies these days, wanting to vote abandon after one wipe, they don't remember titan HM.

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How much gil are you guys bringing into SB?

also anyone have a source on pic related? saved it from a previous thread

>>379825841
DPS ques are basically just potd.
If you're smart about it you wont have a painful grind to 70.
Also, since WHM is fucking dead it will basically be like having a new healer because every WHM will just level AST.

>>379825653
What's even the point of Upheaval? It works like Power Within except it also costs 20 beast gauge for fucking 20 more potency. This skill is fucking retarded

>>379825710
Ah yes, how silly of me to /use [Brain].

>>379825761
>Reading the OF is fucking painful, especially since I fucking know most of the WARs there more than likely never ever main tanked as one and just love Fell Cleave, it's so aggravating.
If they love DPS so fucking much, they should reroll SAM. I personally MT'd most of Creator savage until phase change so that the DRK never has to Grit.

>>379825959
what? however much I have lying around, about 4 million I think, I'm not a fan of crafting so I'm not terribly rich compared to some folks.

I hope the prices of leveling gear isn't as fuck aweful as stormblood. (50k for a fucking pair of level 54 trousers? what?)

>>379826008
What the fuck is Power Within

>>379825959
Less than 50m, since I can't be bothered with making money out of anything other than luminous fibers.

>>379826072
he obviously meant Spirit Within

>>379826005
by this point 90% of healers already have every healer leveled and any of them that are so dedicated to white mage that they don't are just going to quit playing.

>>379824684
DRK is the most boring tank in SB. You'll only have one combo since if you have to use you're aggro combo you're a shit DRK. PLD and WAR are recommended for more interesting gameplay.

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>>379826072
I meant Spirits Within, for some reason the Dark Souls spell came into my mind instead.

>>379825952
>Titan HM during early 2.0
DF was a fucking train wreck and I miss it.

Predownload start today right?

>>379824370
>lose the best dot in the game
>all of our unique shit like reprisal and low blow now role wide
>Delirium is gone
>unleash damage cut in half
>gave us a shittier Total Eclipse that we will hardly ever use because we already have two AoE spells.

What was the fucking point in the pruning and merging if skills for again? They said they wanted to eliminate bloat and redundancy instead they made shit pointlessly easier and made the job more bloated because of that stupid fucking ability Quietus. Scourge died for this garbage what the fuck and why do we need Bloodspiller? We don't need a fucking fell cleave. Why homogenize the shit out of everything?

>>379826227
you won't be able to download stormblood until the game goes down for 24 hour maintenance

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>>379826012
>If they love DPS so fucking much, they should reroll SAM.
Funny that you say that.

MTing as WAR is fucking fun, esp because of shit like Equilibrium. I'd like if the self heal/absorb aspect of IB from 2.0 comes back since Rampart is a CR and Vengeance is good mitigation, but I understand if it doesn't. Mostly want it back because I like the idea of a tank with nice self heal sustaining capabilities, but I understand if it doesn't return because of how the game works.

Here's the thread by the by.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/326960-Boycotting-Warrior-4.0-(Let-s-do-it!)/

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>>379826265
>best dot in the game
hol' up

>>379826309
I've seen that thread and it's horrible.

RIP bloodbath though.

>>379826172
Oh, okay, I really had no idea

Anyway the point of Upheaval is that it's a lot of oGCD damage for a very small amount of your Beast Gauge. Upheaval + GCD Attack is usually going to be as much or more damage than a Fell Cleave, even when it's just paired with your standard combo actions.

It's a really good skill.

>>379825941
isn't hypercharge still a thing tho?
plus tp/mp refresh is still there in a form that doesn't lower your dps

>>379826008
presumably to lower your beast gauge below 50 before you use infuriate, i guess. plus you can use it in either stance so it's a bit of extra damage in defiance
tho i dunno if war is actually going to be stockpiling gauge at any point so it might just be useless

>>379826313
Then why did /v/ tell me Scourge was the best dot

>>379826492
probably meant the best non-combo dot

>>379826492
Cause we paladins are a super secret club and we don't want others to join us.

>>379826313
>enemies use an attack with the exact animation as it, it's a cleave
>pld version, not a cleave

What were they thinking

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>tfw just finished Tales of the Abyss
>nothing to do for the next 5ish days since I don't wanna start another title and not finish it

Also, I really hope the Ironworks katana is something cool.

Best healer in SB?

>>379826492
It's the second best damaging skill overall for DRK, DRK's best DoT and damaging skill is Salted Earth though, till Bloodspiller came along of course - unless the potency gets higher than 525 on the final build (gritless).

If we're considering stand alone dots, iirc those are pretty high up there.

Cold dustin' the flustered is super cali ???? tageous!

>>379826632
AST

>>379826632
A S T R O

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>>379826309
>tanks with self sustain
DID SOMEONE CALL?!?
>>379826632
Paladin cause he can't be interrupted by dmg like the other healers.

How do I set up a parser?

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>>379826720
>TP Cost: 24

>>379826920
you don't or you'll get banned

>>379826616
I don't think SAM or RDM are getting gear like that.

>>379826706
>>379826708
Can you jump potion ast in SB EA?

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>someone listed 400 lightning clusters for 1gil each

Thanks for the donation, goyim!

>>379826616
alexandrian katana you mean

>>379825064
>>379825784

Shield Swipe doesn't even do anything beneficial. Pacification is almost never effective or meaningful in any instance save old Trials from ARR.

The fact that Paladin didn't have previous skills altered is in no way beneficial to them, because the majority of the Paladin toolset is incredibly niche or outright useless. Hello, Tempered Will and your ludicrous cooldown, as though you changed the game somehow.

If anything, I'd say the fact few original Paladin skills were altered is basically Square's idea of "balance", because they leave the class saddled with meaningless abilities you needn't even have keybound, while introducing extraordinary new skills you're going to depend on.

As for block, it has always been considered a gimmick, because it's only barely more mitigating than Parry (an additional reduction of perhaps 8% damage with the absolute best in slot shield equipped) and blocking doesn't actually work on a vast majority of high damage boss abilities, save clearly defined tank busters where Shelltron had its moment to shine. I cannot actually confirm whether Punishing Heat can be blocked, as I never had the opportunity to Shelltron it.

I will actually be maining DRK because my FCmate has fully embraced Paladin again after having dropped it long ago, while I continued to play it. I figure I'll let him go ahead while I OT through Stormblood.

>>379826265
Bloodspiller replaced Scourge, and is a much more interesting and versatile skill than Scourge's "Apply this DoT in between every fourth combo". The Scourge animation will be missed though.

Removing the Delirium debuff is because they're moving away from 'passive', high-uptime mitigation like the INT/STR/Damage down on tank combos (and to a lesser extent Reprisal) to a more active tanking game with skills like the revised Sheltron and Blackest Night. That's a good thing. So is getting rid of DRK's "You need to be main tanking to do your damage" skills, which lets DRK perform well in either an MT or OT position (and you were compensated for the damage loss and then some by the Darkside changes).

Unleash being nerfed is a good thing, because there were too many people who thought you were actually supposed to use it after you got the far-superior Abyssal Drain. And you should go look at the tooltips again if you think that Quietus is even remotely comparable in function to Total Eclipse, let alone "shittier". DRK is now almost guaranteed to be the best tank by fucking miles for doing dungeons, largely because of it.

>>379826920
By following a guide on youtube.
>>379827016
I'd love to see a post where someone confirms they were banned cause they used a parser.

All savage raiders use parsers and it's impossible to detect unless you start BMing people with the numbers in chat.

>>379826720
Clemency no long cost MP? And not only that, the TP cost is that low? Bullshit, I don't believe it. I want to believe it, but there's no way that's not a fuck up in translation.

>Yoshida said Stormblood will be the most "Final Fantasy" expansion to the dismay of WoWfugees
>Iconic FF job White Mage gets jack shit
Is Yoshida Japanese Todd?

>>379827016
>getting banned for using a parser
Only if you're the sort of shitbreather who vomits the numbers to DF groups

>>379827172
I guarantee I could get you banned for parsing on my server, chump

Question for you guys that play- do you think I should give tanking a shot for when I get this game? I only ask because a friend of mine who plays MMOs has said that the tank needs to know every single fight in a dungeon, is it really that serious, and how hard is it compared to a dps role

>>379827227
>WHM becomes more useless as the game progresses
Sounds like a 'Final Fantasy' game to me then.

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>>379826967
>>379827196
>falling for a ruse

>>379827290
What server you on mate, I'd love to see it. Been parsing for 4 years and not a single damn warning or anything, bud.

>>379827097
ironworks has a higher chance of looking like some HF bullshit

>>379827045
the only thing they're not getting is Allagan gear, which is a shame.

>>379827196

It still costs MP, but by level 64, you get a trait that reduces the cost of it and Holy Spirit by 50%, and you can no longer be interrupted while casting.

>>379827309
It's not that hard at all, read your tooltips, use cooldowns when appropriate i.e. when you're taking damage from mobs, bosses, etc
Tankbusters are usually telegraphed, and such
It's a fucking easy task desu

Also do Hall of Novice as one.

>>379826313
That's not the SAM dot.

>>379825335
So what is the problem with monk? From what I understand the activations on the various fist buffs looked cool and FoF will likely be buffed to beneficial levels.

>>379827309
Tanking is easy as shit for pretty much all dungeons, but if you have really bad video game social anxiety then you might not have fun with it because your mistakes are usually on display.

>>379827227
To be the Jap Todd he needs to follow up a 10/10 game with a 1/10 objectively garbage piece of shit flaming dumpster fire fuckfest that isn't even in the same genre as it's superior by another company.

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>>379827097
>Not buying the Yasha katana for full weeb

>>379827363
Tell me yours and I'll get you taken care of

>>379824375
We get to play a retarded minigame to get halfways decent numbers that is more punishing than a NIN getting the new super rabbit. Also BRD is pretty much the only support in the game now.

Oh and with the opener pretty much dead and burried our DPS will be medicore at best.

And the AF looks like total shit.

>>379827405
>>379827451
Thanks guys, I'll give it a shot. What's easier for a novice, paladin or warrior?

Any newbie tips as an Arcanist?
>doing Sastasha for the first time
>tank goes below 200
>panic and heal tank because I don't know what the fuck the conjurer is doing
>get told off by conjurer
send help

>>379827561
My server is leviathan, come on, I'll be waiting.

>>379825335
What do you mean? You don't like the changes to your most iconic skill, Shoulder Tackle?!?!?!

Surely you're not going to suggest that Riddle of Earth requiring damage to activate isn't retardation on a scale never before seen?

>>379827309
Dps is harder to do well, but unless you're absolute shit at it you won't get called out.
Tank is easier, but any mistake you make will be super obvious.

>>379827560
>not buying a superior midan katana made out of pure gobbie technolgy

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>Want Yafaemi healer robe
>Have to run Weeping Shitty for it

Why couldn't I just have gotten lucky one of the other 50 times I ran this shit hole for coins?

>>379827579
Doesn't matter since it'll be changed in SB
Play what looks appealing to you.

>>379827586
Ignore them, you do damage with dots mostly, so it's not like you're losing DPS not spamming Ruin.

>>379827579
I wouldn't really say it's easier, but I'd probably go with Paladin because it's a lot more straightforward, and because it's probably going to be powerful as hell by the time you get near max level.

>>379827660
Best part about stormblood will be leaving those goblin fucks behind

>>379827598
I could see someone getting banned if you're using it to shame other players. It's against the ToS and all it takes is a page-long "it hurt my feelings" to get GMs moving in on it.

>>379827609
Riddle of Earth is actually the best of the new MNK skills.

>>379827680
I wanted the Monk body from Labyrinth and Healer hat from World of Darkness and I've never seen them drop.

>>379825137
>Data says people who play tanks will keep playing tanks, people who play healers will keep playing healers - Yoshi's story

>>379827112
>Shield Swipe doesn't even do anything beneficial

I used to use it as a slight TP regen combined with bulwark when it was on the gcd so I wouldn't just sit there like a sack of shit doing nothing. IT was pretty fucking useless this entire patch except for being something else to press when it would light up. And Punishing heat is magic damage, shelltron anyway to block the auto attack right after

>>379827140
>darkside casualization
>dot removed
>stance dancing discouraged
>no delirium management

Yaaay, go DRK

>>379827731
Well thats what I said. Parsing doesn't matter unless you are using it to BM.

I use it all the time but never say anything about it unless it's with my FC during raids. Cause I can shit talk those fucks all day long.

I am having a conversation with a healer main who is convinced SB is making Astrologian useless and they're lamenting that they'll have to play the obviously superior White Mage. And I just cannot convince them otherwise.

This is so fucking surreal.

>>379827823
>stance dancing discouraged on DRK
how?

>PuG scene is already pretty bad
>They introduce level boosts

Fuck the NA community for their endless bitching about 'muh leveling'

>>379827112
Shield Swipe's benefit is that it's (potentially) a ton of potency. 150 potency on a cooldown that can be as low as 15s (if you get lucky with blocks) is as much potency-over-time as Warrior gets with their new Upheaval, which is WAR's only source of oGCD damage in Stormblood, while PLD also has Spirits Within, Circle of Scorn, and now Requiescat.

>>379825841
I don't see how a max wait time of 5mins in current content is "garbage"

>>379827680
i unironically like wiping shitty. it's filled with mechanics, looks good and sounds good (especially ozma's sound effects those are fucking SEX). i'd rather spam that than snoozefests like regular dungeons and ... void ark

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>>379827823
>drk turning into the babby tank for dps and healers who want to try out tanking but don't want to level from level one

>>379827901
Their tank stance has a massive mp cost iirc (source: my ass).

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>nothing drains on Dark Knight anymore
Does Yoshida just hate Final Fantasy like most of his playerbase?

>>379825941
>But WHM is doomed
Only AFTER content will be on the farm
So who cares

>>379827893
If Balance still exists in the game, Astro is not useless. It's a statement of fact at this point.

>>379827940
it's always had an mp cost, same as PLD

>>379827823
If Delirium and Darkside "management" ever had an impact on how you played DRK, you never played it well enough to be bitching about "casualization".

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>>379827937
I want to fill her little book with my three big lines

>>379827902
>pickup groups already have shitty players
>shitty players will just be shitty at something else
I don't see the problem here.

>>379827817

I thought that was the case with Punishing Heat, since I was running it as DRK and I used to DA+Dark Mind it and actually pulled a hilarious 2.3k damage out of it once with Adlo up at the same time.

Poor Alexander.

But, yes. Shield Swipe was actually quite impressive in the earlier days of ARR and worked as a pretty solid method to shore up a Paladin's sad DPS, being able at times to get a Shield Swipe between every step of your rotation when you got lucky with blocks. In fact, in the days of Block Rate/Block Strength divides between small and large shields, you could choose to tank aggressively through use of higher block rating shields at the cost of damage mitigation to ensure you were putting out steady Shield Swipes to augment your DPS.

Now, all shields have perfectly equal ratings and Shield Swipe is on a 15 second CD.

>>379827913
>5 mins
I've been a BLM main for a while now and queue times are often 10 to 15 mins.

>>379827902
Oh I think Ozma is the shit too. The raid itself isn't so bad, just the people I'm normally forced to play with in there.

>>379827974
I'm getting the impression this is a heals-only kind of healer. The discussion is literally down to 'why do Cure 1 and Cure 2 get a 50 potency buff, when Benefic 1 and 2 don't?'

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>>379827565
>AF looks like total shit

It looks like some bland leveling dungeon set. Seriously this must be the worst AF set in the game up to this point.

>>379827609

what did they change about shoulder tackle

>>379827901
Blood price and potency buff when in grit for that skill, I forgot what it's called because I stop caring and I'm not getting SB.

>>379827997
Hey, all I'm saying is you had to keep track of something and you no longer need to do it. That goes for darkside mp management and scourge. You might consider those changes insignificant but it's casualization nevertheless.

>>379828085
Must be on a shittier data center, I've been BRD since ARR and I've never waited longer than 5mins for anything current.

>>379828160
it does different things depending on which stance you're in
except only the fire one is actually good

>>379828160
Does different things based on what fist you're using.

Fire = 130 potency + 5% bonus from FoF so it's the highest damage
Wind = 2 65 potency tackles
Earth = Lower potency overall (forgot specific) and it has knockback.

>>379828171
Bloodspiller does the same amount of damage regardless of tank stance

Blood price change actually encourages you to stance dance so you can use both Blood price and blood weapon effectively you mongoloid

>>379828142
so me of the AF2 was pretty shit man, just look at black mage.

>>379828179
I'm on primal so don't see how its a bad data center.

>>379828142
HW dungeon sets look better than the WAR AF

>>379828127
he's fucking retarded because ast gets an additional 15% healing in stormblood with both their healing stances.. Benefic has 460 potency and benefic 2 has 747 potency

>>379828142
It looks like a 5ilvl upgrade over the original AF. Zero creativity here.

>>379828296
I'm not sure if any of the AF2 sets are all too great, thinking on it. Summoner was good on females, I guess.

>>379828268
Not him but does DRK loses blood stance dancing?

>>379828142
it looks nice on the roe in the launch trailer
except no one plays roe so uhhh

>>379828363
That is exactly what I told him, as well as the apparent ridiculous buff to nocturnal aspected benefic. Fuck it I'm gonna screencap this.

>>379828142
I don't get all the hate for the set, sure most of it looks generic but the body is miles better than the previous AF.
It also fits the mch aesthetic. Maybe the color isn't great but that can be fixed.

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>WHMs think they can even try to be relevant

As a BLM main I can't wait for RDM to come out so I can steal all his glamours.

>>379828376
No, DRK is the only tank that maintains their job gauge through stance changes.

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>>379828025
>[lolicon] [femdom]

>>379828376
nah, 1440 MP, no gauge cost

>>379828443
their AF3 is the cutest ...

>>379828443
WHM will probably be relevant, it's SCH that needs to worry.

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>>379828296
but BLM AF2 was good

>>379828363
Noct Sect is the one with 15%, Diurnal is "only" 10% according to JP tooltips. Not that it matters much.

>>379828429
Honestly, while the buff to A.Benefic is retarded, it's also pointless if they are pushing for AST+SCH combo as AST will optimally use Diurnal anyway. And in a WHM+AST combo 300% A.Benefic still doesn't make up for the lack of utility (fairy + fairy CD's) and reaction tools of a SCH. They should've taken the chance to rework Noct while they could instead of just doing more "lmao more potency!!!" buffs .

>>379828268
>Bloodspiller does the same amount of damage regardless of tank stance
Exactly, so why turn off grit.

>Blood price change actually encourages you to stance dance so you can use both Blood price and blood weapon effectively you mongoloid

How many people stance dance in current content? Well, now they have even less reason to do it, that's all I'm saying.

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>>379828545
t. pic related

>>379828545
nani? SCH is fine you dope

>>379828443
SCH took a few hits to their kit more than WHM did. But with /v/ being /v/, meaning basically no on here at all, they think they're part of a static full of sweaty min/max server first elite skidmarks.

People should play want they want to play, regardless of what changed.

>>379828268
I wouldn't say that Blood Price "encourages" stance swaps, since it's pretty much never going to actually provide enough MP in a single-target fight to entirely make up for the DPS loss of turning it on. But it being locked to Grit means that it's pretty much always going to be available if you DO have to turn Grit on, and it'll usually make up for between one third and one half of the DPS you lose by spending a GCD and 1800 MP activating Grit.

Between that and the fact that you can potentially get 3 Bloodspillers back to back, though, you can activate Grit for a full ten seconds without really losing much more DPS than the GCD you lose by turning it on, which makes DRK the most efficient stance swapper by fucking MILES, now that WAR's gauge gets fucked.

>>379828545
>Stronger version of Battle litany on a much shorter CD + automatic auto heal to say fuck you to tank busters
No, SCH is fine.

>>379828636
Lost a few abilities in your kit. You're only useful for a barrier and 20% crit vulnerability, which originally was a White magic ability in the first place.

>>379828617
>how many people stance dance in current content?
literally any competent tank or healer

>now they have even less reason to do it
DRK has zero penalties to stance dancing apart from the mana cost/GCD which it has always cost. Competent tanks will stance dance at least as much as currently

>>379828671
>SCH took more hits to their kit
The only hits they took was to their DPS which all healers did, WHM just the least of the 3. Every crybaby SCH is pissing their pants over losing DPS while literally all the shit that was what made them broken in the first place is intact.

>>379823302
wtf are lilies you expect me to play this gay shit class?

Why the fuck didn't they just declare AST being the full healer and just double down on the DPS balance aspect the CNJ story told? They could have some something simmilar tho the Archmage back in Warhammer Online and get some "The more you heal the better your damage spells get and vice versa" thing going on. It would have fit the theme perfectly and make for an interesting class.

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>>379828671
B-BUT THEY SAID WHM IS BAD FOR SPEEDKILLS WHICH IS SOMETHING ONLY A SMALL % OF THE 1% OF THE PLAYERBASE THAT EVEN DOES SAVAGE FIGHT DOES SO IT MEANS WHM IS SHIT FOR ALL THE OTHER CONTENT I DO DAILY

>>379828736
Unless they change how raid damage works in this game (hint:they probably won't) preemptive shielding will remain necessary since it can all be predicted.

>>379828736
>'Lost a few abilities in your kit'
>Says the fucking WHM defender
How all those Role Actions working out for you :^)

>>379828786
WHM will still hit hard compared to the other two.

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I hope this expansion gives a lot of great weeb outfits

>>379828736
you're just a bitter WHM talking out your useless ass

pipe down

>>379825165
I always thought BLM's design was a giant turd that conflicts with everything else in the game and the only reason it's playable AT ALL is because the game's already low unpredictability can be minimized even further. Neverreap just takes those problems and emphasizes them tenfolds. I hope Fractal drops the same gear as it because there's no way in fuck I'm running that shithole again.

>>379828894
Of course it will. It's built to market to soulless weeb zombies such as yourself.

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>>379828849
You okay anon? You seem to be trying a bit too hard.

>>379828819
My fix was to give them a undead mode. Make an enemy have the status effect of undead for 15 secs

Then as one of the most classic final fantasy features, heals now damage him. It makes too much sense I guess so we won't get it

>>379828894
Yeah, it will. Cash shop exclusive though. What that? Holiday events? Have a shitty minion and some useless furnishing

>>379828786
Yes, but remember, the thing SCH hated to do most was heal. They would rather DPS and let their WHM do the bulk healing while staring at their DPS meter.

>>379828882
Unless they make stone have 800 potency their dps is irrelevant compared to the damage buffs SCH and AST give their group.

>>379828882
in aoe scenarios (which don't matter in 8man content), whm is by far the best

in single target they are the worst by far, every healer gets a new, spammable attack (stone IV, Broil II, Malefic III) but WHM remains the only healer without a way to augment the parties damage

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>always forced to kill fucking Garleans
I hope Nero tol Scaeva joins us for future adventures.

>>379828939
looks like an average /v/ post to me, anon

>>379828171
You still have to keep track of MP in pretty much the same way with pretty much the same difficulty. The only difference is that it kind of works the other way around now. Instead of having to keep an eye on your MP so you don't drop Darkside and lose a ton of damage, you have to keep an eye on your MP so you don't cap out your MP meter and start pissing away potency by generating more MP than you can hold.

Keeping track of the Blood Gauge and making sure that you don't go over the cap on that is, likewise, a pretty direct substitution for the attention you might have had to pay to Scourge.

DRK has been changed around a lot but calling it "casualization" is a pretty kneejerk response that doesn't really consider how the class is actually going to work.

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if they don't add any new mgp outfits/mounts in the saucer i'm gonna freak

all the mgp i grinded will have been for nothing

>>379828956
Cure II heals for 12k, imagine that and divine seal + presence of mind, shit becomes waaaay too OP. This is why they keep damaging and beneficial spells seperate, so changing the aspect of one doesn't influence the other

>>379828142
>>379828432
It's a good set because it's not a load of black, overdesigned spiky anime shit.

>>379828939
just really annoyed to see how all the mindless sheeps still shit up the threads instead of going to cry on reddit or the official forums about arbitrary opinions based on content they don't even touch
i expected more from /v/

>>379828882
Yea, 30 more potency harder than SCH on their new nukes. So what? WHM has always been the better DPS among the healers but their MP was the worst for it. SCH losing 2 dots and the nerf to Bane is the only hit SCH takes, their healing+utility kit is still intact and they even get a better battle litany. Only braindead rejects think SCH is in a bad place for anything other than killing 4man dungeon trash. And if the forced gating continues (it will), that's not even a big deal because aoe packs aren't all that huge most of the time anyway.

>Try to play XIV
>Create account
>Download launcher after spending 30 minutes trying to navigate the clusterfuck of an official site to find a download
>Try to log in
>It says my ID is incorrect
>Reset my password
>ID is still incorrect
>Reset my password again
>Nope
>Give up

Fucking incompetent Japs, are they making it intentionally hard to play the game or what?

>>379828867
Still better AoE heals, Thin Air, Assize hitting hard, and overall still being better at raw heal potential then the other two. Role actions were introduced as a lazy alternative to balancing.

>>379828924
I forget I'm on /v/ sometimes. Most people on /v/ don't raid, or raid actually difficult current tier content.

>>379829117
>It says my ID is incorrect
>Reset my password

Are you dumb?

>>379829117
Do you have a weeb Square Enix account with the same name?

>>379829078
Well we've seen screens of new weapons from saucer, they dont look that good, but hey it means there will be new things in general

>>379829128
With the increased healing potency in AST stances and earthly star AST is the best healer outside of meme scenarios where Cure III needs to be spammed, which won't happen because content is designed around any healer combination being able to handle it

>>379829090
It'd be the easiest thing in the world to balance all undead status effect would have to read is target now takes healing spells now inflict 50% of their potency as damage. Or balance it around any percent.

>>379828926
>I hope Fractal drops the same gear as it because there's no way in fuck I'm running that shithole again.
The Tictacs Ogre gear? It does.

>>379829000
>The thing the healer hated to do the most was heal
I would say it's not SE's fault for fostering 4 years of SCH retards but the way they designed content and never nerfed SCH, it clearly is.

>>379827906

I will concede that in spite of my earlier mention about its contribution to damage output, I didn't much consider it as a contributor anymore with the cooldown in place, though I can see how other people would analyze it given Warriors diminished options by comparison. I have a tendency to look at the utility of a skill before any damage it may do, which is why I can imagine Rage of Halone will be less relevant than ever now. Before, it felt like a joke skill. Now, it basically is, since any competent tank looking to get out maximum DPS contribution will use it as infrequently as possible.

>>379829103
I take what most of /v/ says like a grain of salt. More are here to shitpost, troll, and fan the flames.

Everyone knew the tooltips were wrong or inaccurate, but no one knew how inaccurate until Yoshi spoke up and said the beta build at the media events were from late April, then said "tons of changes" have happened since.

I would wait until SB launch before being all doom and gloom like most of the skidmarks in this thread.

>>379829202
I only have one account.

>>379829103
>i expected more from /v/
You must be new here. This is all these threads have been.

>going to cry on reddit or the official forums
Pretty sure posting on either would get you about the same reaction. Especially complaining about the game on Reddit that isn't one of the five dedicated Circlejerk topics.

>>379829246
I would take any tooltips we saw in the media stuff as a grain of salt. Yoshi already said the tooltips were inaccurate and the beta build was from late April.

>>379829170
You can't recover your password with an incorrect account name doofus.

>>379828671
SCH lost:
>DPS strength (all healers did)
>AoE DPS (this is all around)
>a little bit MP sustainability with Aetherflow nerfed to 10% refresh (can use Lucid Dream)
>Leeches (needs to cross Esuna)
>Virus (All healers did)

WHM lost:
>DPS strength
>Stoneskin (just fucking gone)
>A lot of their native kit moved to Cross role (Cleric's,Protect, Esuna, Divine Seal, Shroud of Saints)
>Largesse (Divine seal) is weaker than before
>Fluid Aura does no damage
>Virus

AST lost:
uh

>>379823302
test

>>379828992
I want the eastern journey stuff for my monk glamour but as far as I know they've not even made it available to europe yet and even if they do, they'll probably put it in a print magazine with a print run of 2 again

>>379829339
Not the faggot you're quoting. Plebbit is only useful for some stuff the spergs have calculated that we're not arsed to do, like gardening endgame.

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>>379829113
>broil costs 960 mana each
>aetherflow down to 10%, with a gimmick trait that is as bad as the old lily one
>can't weave ogcds anymore without losing dps
>losing 2 dots on top of gcd shadow flare
>losing miasma 2 blizzard 2 and bane potency
>most new abilities were clearly meant with cleric stance in mind and are situational at best now

being slightly better than absolute garbage makes you still garbage

>>379829309
Rationality? On my /v/? I almost forgot for a moment that I was on the board infested with
>*literally BRAAAAAPS your path, white boi KEK*
posters.

Any reason to re-sub after the cleric stance change? I logged in for the stance dance.

>>379829419
Honestly it's that cross role shit that stings the most, WHM want something to make them unique, a reason why you might go to them over the other healers.

Lilies for cooldowns puts me to fucking sleep, I can't say I ever found cooldowns a HEUG problem that needed some randomass mechanic to cut it down.

I still haven't done the last patch story before expansion, When are they going to be shutting down the serves?

>SCHs gauge is purely beneficial and lets the fairy heal heavy damage by itself
>ASTs gauge is literally nothing
>WHMs gauge actively hurts them more than it helps

lilies were a mistake

>>379829491
It's barely going to play differently you fucking baby.

>>379829247
Sure, that is the easy way out, but like I said if you have the undead effect and then decide to change the potencies of healing spells for whatever reason, it will change the damage as well, which leads to a cascade of changes. Ever heard of a thing called technological debt?

>>379829241
I think the AST wep is real nice. Didn't it even change how the cards look? I'd level an AST just for that glam

>>379829446
>broil costs 960 mana each

It's like you niggers aren't accounting for your MP at level 70.

>>379829385
The skill tooltips are apparently from even earlier than that, because they wanted to freeze skill adjustments before they froze the rest of the event build (presumably to avoid a situation like the one for the HW media build where MCH played like shit because ammo just flat out didn't work).

>>379829491
People will tell you that healers stance dancing had nothing to do with skill and was an unneeded mechanic.

I actually liked it a lot, probably my favourite part of XIV. Was fun to see what kind of shady shit you could get away with as healer.

>>379829545
AST has no gauge really, just more clear visualization of their cards. They were one of the classes that didn't get any new resource to manage, just another slot for minor arcana, of which there's only 2 options anyways.

>>379829446
>Broil always was an mp inefficient spell compared to WHM/AST alternatives, it remaining so in SB is not a surprise
>Aetherflow nerf is made up for the fact that you now get Shroud
>Rest of the complaints are just MUH DEEPS WAAAH
>even tho SCH will still be the best single target DPS
There's nothing garbage about SCH other than aoe dps and anyone that raids knows that is at best useful in ONE raid out of 12.

>>379829479
>Rationality? On my /v/?

I know right.

>>379829535
You got until the 15th. They'll be down for 24 hours.

>>379828786
>while literally all the shit that was what made them broken in the first place is intact.
Let me guess, you're one of those people who think having a regen that can only apply to one person at a time is broken.

So, is there less reliance on weaving OGCDs now? Classes like MCH needed to weave two into a single CD but looking over the skills it seems all but gone on all classes.

I am confused. I preordered on square enix store and redeemed my early access code and all seems to be setup for early access launch.

Do I get another key for the actual expansion or does it just transform into Stormblood full game on actual release date?

>>379829491
you can still DPS, you just won't DPS as much and won't have to worry about "fuck I hit the key twice so now I can't heal for a second hold on"

The intent was to make it less "stressful" for non DPSing healers to try DPSing but you know they won't. The only problem really is that Clerics Stance itself isn't even worth taking anymore. 5% damage boost for 15 seconds WOW

>>379829584
Huh. Didn't know that. Makes sense. Tuning takes a while and it's understandable tooltips wouldn't be updated until numbers are panned out. Too bad /v/ is /v/. Full of doom, gloom, and shitters.

>>379829682
Red Mage basically works on it in all but name.

>>379829637
Thanks, I'll go do it tomorrow.

>>379829631
AoE DPS might not even matter anyways since there's a 110% chance Yoshi-P went back to putting a gate between every single 3-pack mob.

Respect that content.

>>379829746
it has other benefits too for things like assize that heals and damages at full potency all the time instead of choosing between damage or healing. Cleric is a nerf but it's not a fatal one

>>379829684
You do. They've sent out emails saying they're going to charge you on a certain date and give you a code for the full game. The code you get for preordering is just the code for early access. They send you an email saying they'll charge your card on a certain date and to give you a warning to have the funds ready.

I was told I'd be charged on the 9th. Hasn't happened yet.

>>379829572
If Broil's current cost were scaled up to level 70, it would cost 720 MP, instead of Broil II's 960. If Broil II's cost were scaled down to our current level 60, it would cost 707 MP, instead of Broil's 530.

MP pools at level 70 are scaled up roughly to accommodate for an increase from 530 to 720. Broil II being set to 960 is a hefty increase in MP cost, even with the level increase.

>>379829850
Ah thanks for clearing that up. I only got paid on friday so I only just preordered it today. So I was a bit confused

>>379829810
AoE DPS was nerfed considerably across the board. I guess Yoshi got tired of people just getting all the mobs in one spot and burning them all down with AoE.

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>>379829572
>current broil is 530 with 11k mana
>new broil is 960 with 17k mana
>less dots means more nuke spam means less mana

while you do get shroud, people really understimate how fast mana will get drained with shields and nuke spam

>>379829631
whm already does more damage than scholar with 4.0 skills and numbers, and is more mana efficent with 48s assize and thin air

>>379829682
>>379829761
RDM has 2 OCD skills intended for just weaving in whenever they come off cooldown, which are the icicle rapier drop skills.

There's also Corps a Corps but youll mostly only be using that for getting ready to do the 1-2-3 melee combo.

Also how am I supposed to say it? I know corps is pronounced "cores" but cores a cores sounds really fucking dumb. is this Koji fox at work again?

>>379829673
How is this even relevant? The only new skill anyone has ever mentioned for SCH is the better battle litany in these threads. What part of their entire kit is intact, you know, the shit they got from ARR and HW is hard to understand?

SCH's must be the most retarded players around that can't into simple logic because for 4 years they've just been able to go "muh deeps!" while a WHM carried their so called "healer" ass and now that they can't go MUH DEEPS as much anymore, the job is somehow trash.

>>379829953
Core a Core, no s sound.

>>379829953
It's just French you fucking faggot. Core-ah-core.

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Jesus fuck this was way longer than I thought.

Highlights are that Diurnal/Nocturnal 15% don't make up for a 50 potency difference, Nocturnal doesn't matter and doesn't exist, Balance is useless, and Astrologian does better personal DPS than White Mage.

What a world.

>>379829953
it's a french fencing term you dingus

>>379827565
You forgot:

No

more

Granado

Shot.

>>379829810
>no oh, everyone is just rushing through our "dungeons"
>what should we do? make more interesting enemies with mechanics that demand the full attention of the player
>Nah, let's just throw a gate after every pull

>>379829937
>new broil is 960 with 17k mana
>at bare bottom ilvl for level 70

also Piety is going to only be on healer gear now meaning all healer gear will DEFINITELY have piety on it.

>>379829953
Kuh-wu-EERPs-uh-kuh-wu-EERPs. You also need to warm up your French accent by doing your best HONHONHONs for five minutes beforehand.

>>379830028
I would blacklist this person. What an idiot.

>>379829937
>48s assize
You realize if the current Lily system is what we get, 90% of Assize uses will not have a 20% CD cut right? But do please keep crying.

Anyone have autism Nero?

Do you have to re-sub to get the launcher to start downloading the game? I am thinking of coming back to this game.

>>379830028
Purple has no fucking clue and you should not play any content with them.

>>379830157
>forgetting the "hocking up a loogie" noise somewhere in the middle
french is the worst language

>>379830174
>>379830246
We're friends now. I like to try and educate. I also know his FC leader.

>>379830101
Too bad healers will invest in crit over piety if they can.

>>379830178
Don't forget the passive Assize has. Casts can reduce its CD by 5 seconds. Beta build had it at 20% but don't trust any tooltips until launch.

>>379830178
>assize is to be used whenever possible
>it will eat all your lillies which there's a 0% chance of you having all 3 when it comes off cooldown

Do they expect you to not us Assize constantly or what

>>379830228
you could create a throwaway account for a free trial and login with that, allowing you to download.

Otherwise yes, you have to login with a subbed account to download anything.

>>379830228
Yes. It's retarded.

>>379830340
You are trying to but they're not listening to a word you're saying. You can't help those who want no help.

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>>379830340
Save yourself the trouble, friend. Blacklist and move on.

>>379830028
Purple person talks so much like someone I know. Balmung?

>>379830379
>>379830401
ok thanks

>guildwork doesn't work anymore
>no way to tell me when hunts are up in game

fuck

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>Increase ground mount speed
>Still won't add Cloud's bike

Honestly I just want it in because it'll trigger people.

>>379830101
unless you stack piety, around that will be your mp for the whole expansion
ilv has nothing to do with it since it's a secondary, this is not vit or mnd

>>379830178
speculation etc
but even then, it has same cd as aetherflow and gives same mana back, and whm has lower mana costs across the board

>>379830331
I also forgot the part where you shove a baguette up your ass. The surprise clears your nasal cavities, allowing for optimal pronunciation. Unless you like having things shoved up your ass, in which case, try something else to clear your nose.

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>>379830482
Wait, what? Is there no alternative?

>>379830356
IT was 20% chacne for 5s reduction on Cure/Cure II crits. So basically with your shit crit rate, the few times you do crit, you play a lottery where every 5th crit will reduce Assize CD by 5sec.

Not reliable, ever, and even worse than Lily CD cut.

But yea, I hope they entire thing gets reworked, Yoshi said there's been lots of changes since and they went out with the fact that Cure II will guarantee a Lily (in combat).

>>379830340
I can't justify this 'haha yeah it does kind of sound like that but i think...'

I just say 'No, that's wrong and you're wrong, it works like this'

>>379830492
Ain't likely till we go to garlemald.

Bet that place'll be full of midgar references.

>>379830546
Have hunt LS.

>>379830447
Cactuar, actually.

>>379830401
>>379830441
Honestly a lot of my FC is like that too, I do not really surround myself with winners. But I like the FC leader a lot, and it's amusing to just tag along with these people as they attempt to beat easy content with Echo and fail anyways.

>>379830604
Already in one. Was just curious if there was an alternative I wasn't aware of.

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>>379830548

>>379830369
They have no idea what they're doing. It's more logical in pvp, where the lily effect is much more powerful and sustained combat is less relevant.

>there are people in this thread who don't have a mansion

broke boys

>>379830621
>Cactuar, actually.
So Balmung 2.0

>>379830621
Make a linkshell for you and people you like who don't suck at the game.

You get the perks of socialising with good players and you can vet the people who are in it. If it's someone else's FC, you can't.

>>379830492
my gosh dang penis

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Is... is this the most useless skill since Keen Flurry?

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>>379830727
delete this cactuar is a good server

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>>379830716
I have a personal medium and I can afford a mansion, I'm just waiting for the new housing plots to go up to see if I can snatch one there and if not, one of the old ones that will get put back up then.

>>379830774
its tornadokickra

>>379830774
Whats wrong with that? Its cool thematically and if the damage is high it'll b
>cannot be deployed for 30s
what the FUCK

>>379830774
depends how powerful the attack is (and if it works with wildfire)

>>379830774
what the fuck is this

>>379830716
They are increasing housing inventory in 4.0?

>>379830774
Keen Flurry is good though haven't you seen that autist Ehtys sperg out about it

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No I need good max speed for super sprint build?

>>379830774
Depends on the potency of the attack, I guess. It seems like a Tornado Kick that isn't entirely worthless to me. (Just 90% worthless)

>>379827227
>Iconic FF job White Mage gets jack shit

>Stormblood has a lot of FFV references
>White mage is useless in FFV
>White mage is useless in Stormblood
Really makes you think.

>>379830852
The explosion has less potency than your turret shooting for 30 seconds.

It also doesn't seem to count for wildfire.

>>379830774
Half the time i'll forget to resummon my Turrett.

>>379830774
Seems useful to me since there's no cast time on resummoning turrets.

>>379830889
that bird is dogshit
super sprint sets you to your max speed, which is limited by your 1 star MS

for a super sprint bird at R9 you want 4star MS, End and Stam. the others can be 1 star and it doesn't matter, but those 3 need to be 4 star.

>>379830727
I really do not want that to be the case. Cactuar's a nice place with nice people. I have played on Balmung, it is scum.

>>379830729
I'm in a few Linkshells that have people I trust to not be total shit. I'm not unhappy with my situation or anything, I'm a total casual after all, I don't want to pretend to be vastly better than your average shitter. I haven't even seen Thordan EX, I was on a break from the game at the time and just never went back

>>379830889
Pretty sure you can have a bad accel stat for super sprint but not a bad speed one.

I don't think you'd get the achi for having 285 overall with only 17 stars too? Uncertain though.

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>>379830858
Cottages are at 200, houses at 300, and mansions at 400. Increased inventory space for both personal and armory was updated too.

>>379830774

I can only imagine using it when you fuck up placement on the turret and it takes the majority of its health in damage as a result.

Even then, you could just painlessly redeploy the turret. There's no mention of a potency on it, either.

Giving it some more thought? Maybe it's used right before the timer on Wildfire clocks out to give your end result one last push.

>>379830909
Stormblood looks pretty heavy on Final Fantasy VI judging from the trailer.

>>379830989
How does one fit 200 items into a small house?

With a rope

>>379830925
It's for finishing off trash packs and little else then.

>>379830989
You'll be able to completely wallpaper your house with Haurchefant!

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>>379830774
What if it detonates at a potency equivalent to thirty seconds of sustained rook auto attacks? It'd be really good then.

>>379830989
Will there actually be morre housing plots or atleast bigger appartements?