This is a masterpiece

Yup

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>Devs make a spiritual successor
>Not as good as the original
Why does this keep happening?

No one will deny that.

>>379782525
It's just a more casual Thief with worse level design, objective markers and fun combat.

The game was not balanced for blink though, it ruins stealth.

>>379782525
You're not wrong anon.

I need to play Dishonored II again and hope that they've fixed the laggy mess of a launch it had, so I can go around and try and appreciate the sequel too. I'm hoping it has the same amount of depth.

>>379782974

Can you do this on Thief?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKyT19o-Nl8

I played the first one like 10 times the first month it came out. The second one I dropped after the fourth mission.

I've heard great things. And magic that allows swarms of rats to eat your corpses.

>>379783095

no because the enemies are actual threats

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>>379783024

I think Dishonored has far more atmosphere

>>379782525
>that party level


nice try underage

>>379783289
Yes, because an extremely well choreographed high chaps playthrough in which everything is done perfectly accurately portrays the difficulty of the enemies and the combat.

>>379783415
In a screenshot, yes. During gameplay, no.

Thief had naturalistic locations, Dishonored was that annoying modern corridor with branches for the most part.

>>379783440

???

>>379783095
It's shit like this that reminds me that thief fans compare dishonored to thief as a thinly veiled attempt to keep thief relevant.

>>379782525
its good, great even but don't get ahead of yourself

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>>379782974
>>379783024

>>379783735
Dishonored's existence means that Thief is relevant, because Dishonored wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Thief.

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Reminder that Billy Lush wasn't even asked to return for Dishonored II.

>>379782525

it's short casual as fuck, nor does it even manage to look good or have a passable story

please play more games

>>379782525
both were trash

>>379782525
It's pretty good but I wouldn't exactly call it a masterpiece, it's quite clunky in places and the level design is a tad too... forgiving is probably the best word I have for it. I wish it incentivized you using your powers more.

>>379783213
The Rat Swarm power is great, you can basically summon the swarm at someone's feet and have half a dozen other guards come to try and help the poor sod stomp them out.. then you just go ahead and throw a grenade at the middle of the bunch and send bodies flying everywhere.

the problem with modern stealth games is adding all these OP mechanics without improving enemy AI to do anything against it. Dishonored has good level and art design, decent action, boring stealth

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>another genre hybrid bastard game with mediocre stealth, arguably the one that kickstarted more recent mainstream prominence
>masterpiece

>>379784529
>>379784369
>>379784384

What are your favorite games?

>>379784080
He sounds like a bored, utterly mundane guy standing on top of a soapbox looking down at you. Dishonored 2 did a lot of things wrong storywise, but the treatment they gave to the outsider's characterization and appearance wasn't one of those.

>>379784689

Artificial Academy

>>379784689

STALKER: SoC, Super Metroid, and Deus Ex.

>>379782525
Too bad the sequel is trash.

>>379784689
meme run

>>379784689

Seran Kagura

>>379784080
thank god, he sounded dull and soulless

>>379784449
>>379783213
I have the game on Steam but I've never installed it. Stuff like that makes me think that I've been missing out.

>>379784689
Big Bass Fishing.

>>379784841
In Dishonored II, The Outsider speaks way too quickly and sometimes feels like he's on coke. He's meant to be someone who's immensely curious about Corvo and Emily, but instead he comes across as a kid with ADHD.

Billy Lush played the Outsider perfectly with a slow, meaningful presence.

Perhaps it's a writing issue rather than an acting one, but the first Outsider was objectively superior and more loyal to the character.

>>379785193
OP is full of shit but it's still worth a playthrough

>>379785193
Game is worth playing for the Outsider alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujZJvyFwnmg

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>>379785658

>>379784689
The answer is, of course, Dark Souls, the single best game that will ever exist.

I just beat the game this week on hard. It's a bit too easy honestly, I nearly beat every level without getting spotted or even atttacking

It's above average but it's far from a masterpiece.

>No challenge whatsoever
>Uninteresting level design
>No reason to try any of the interesting powers because they're more trouble than they're worth
>Music was bad
>Voice acting and writing were god fucking awful

>>379785817
I hope this is bait.

>>379786276
Absolutely not. Whats wrong...too hard for ya?

>>379785246
I can agree that he speaks too fast at times, that much is certain. But I wouldn't say "kid with ADHD" as much as I'd say his general tone and mannerisms in 2 are more of what you would expect from a trickster deity that he's also supposed to be, going by the teachings of the Overseers. The first game certainly tried emphasizing more the "bored" aspect of the bored eternal deity looking for entertainment, but that had the end effect of making the Outsider equally boring to listen to. While in 2 he just comes off as delighted in having the chance to play another game with Corvo and Emily. Like it's the first opportunity for amusement he's had in quite a while.

Probably a matter of personal taste above everything else, really.

>>379786407
You cheeky mug.

>>379785193
Its pretty good. Neat whale-punk world. And doesn't hold your hand with how to achieve your objectives.

story was kind of bad. voice acting was bad. villains were bad.

if you tell a dishonored fan that the game is too easy they will always come back with "well just don't play with any powers!". yes, because artificially gimping yourself to make the game more difficult is an instant fix for any game that is too easy right?

dishonored was a good game, but not the masterpiece you like to think it is.

>>379786662
>And doesn't hold your hand with how to achieve your objectives.
>Dishonored
>the game where if you walk within 20 meters of a guy he outright tells you the solution to something that was meant to be a puzzle

>>379786837
the party level in the mansion is one of the most insultingly condescending missions i have ever played in a game. i felt like i was being treated like i had downs syndrome.

>>379782525
It's alright. Personally I hate the artstyle, especially for characters but the gameplay is pretty great so it kind of redeems it.

>>379787184
Bethesda only published it, dumbass.

>Time Stop is bugged and if you assassinate a character from the front half the time it still counts that character as having detected you a nanosecond before they're dead

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>/v/ hates Dishonored now
This place is a goddamn shithole

Game is pretty fun when you play as a stealth assassin, after a while bodies vanish into thin air with one ability

>>379787698
Leddit is here and determined to be as contrarian as possible.

>>379787698
>point out some flaws
>WAAHHH WHY DO YOU GUYS HATE IT
fucking hell you filthy fanboy piece of shit

>>379787702
This.
While the publishers arent the developers themselves, they pretty much tell you what to do and can steer bad decisiobs, to the point where you could hold them accountable for a shitty game. I really dont understand why so many people say "theyre not the developers!" When that was never implied to begin with.

>>379787702
>>379787829
*thinks*

>>379787702
Don't call me "sweetie" unless you want my dick in your ass.

>>379786745
I played without getting powers (except blink since its mandatory) and it was still too easy

>>379785303
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
Fallout New Vegas
Killing Floor
Pokemon Emerald

fixed*

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>>379783415
I politely disagree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh25MB3-Z2w

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>>379787829
You're shitposting m8

That's all there is to that

>>379786986
That was one of the biggest disappointments I've ever had in a game, after how much people hyped the level up.

>>379788808
if dishonored is such a masterpiece why is there not a single memorable level in the entire game? only memorable one for me was the party one and that was because it was fucking terrible. even thief deadly shadows had the cradle even though the rest of the game was quite disappointing.

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>>379788808
You're a faggot.

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>>379788808
Wow, Dishonored really is a ripoff.

>>379782525

The game is meh... it's a great game play with poor level design.

>>379784529
>the one that kickstarted more recent mainstream prominence
No that would be Ass Creed

Dishonored is generic, forgettable and takes too few risks

And yet I honestly really enjoyed playing it. Kinda like Brutal Legend. Mediocre by all "objective" measures, but still really fun somehow.

8/10 - Decent

>>379789193
That's actually my webm

>>379783937
>nostalgia goggles
In a few years I'm going to use this in dishonored threads just to piss you little shitters off

>>379782974
Is Dishonored better experienced if I play the Thief games first?

>>379790084
Sure buddy. Whatever mental gymnastics you need to apply.

>>379782525
>make a "stealth" game
>getting caught isn't a penalty since you can just murder everyone in sight with no real danger

>>379790686
I get what he's saying, Brutal Legend is like a 4/10 game but gets another 4 points for the hours I spent driving around blasting Angel Witch

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>>379790642
No. Thief is shit.

In before that mongoloid who claims this only applies to this specific NPC

>>379782525

Dishonored was pretty good. But, like any game which offers both stealth and combat, I knew exactly what was going to happen.

>first playthrough: low chaos, full stealth, zero kills, no powers
>second playthrough: high chaos, all targets killed, all combat upgrades acquired

>>379783024
>The game was not balanced for blink though, it ruins stealth.

You get blink by default, though. I think they absolutely did balance the game around it. You think it was too easy, but the developers were thinking that normies didn't want to get bored. Blink allows the game to feature stealth mechanics without forcing the stealthy player to be 1000 times slower than the non-stealthy player.

>>379790642
No, because Dishonored is a mediocre game, despite what dishonoredbabies and memers tell you

>>379790642
yeah, you'll get to appreciate the references

>>379782974

thief 1 > thief 2

you have shit taste if you think otherwise

>>379790642
It'll be underwhelming if you do.

>>379785817
quality bait

>>379790965
No, it makes the game piss easy.Who would of think the ability to teleport would break the game. It's low risk high reward stealth for the brain dead

>>379791081
>tomb raider missions
No

>>379791260
literally the best ones

>>379791429
No. Those belching lizards and zombies are fucking annoying in high numbers

>>379790982
>>379791000
>>379791115
Alright so which of the original Thief games are worth playing and what order?

a masterpiece of shit

>>379791602

robots in thief 2 are so much more annoying I don't know how people don't complain about them as much. Their ai was also very exploitable and you could get them to blow themselves up against a wall pretty easily

>>379791775
1 then 2
3 is a step down but still alright

>>379791775
None of them, avoid the franchise entirely.

>>379791775
In order, avoid 4. If you're getting gold instal Tfix

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>>379792254
Ah, I apologize. I'm tired

>>379791169

You're saying "No" and yet you're not disagreeing with me. The stealth needs to be piss easy for the normies not to get bored of it.

I like Hitman and stuff, but I also realize that not every game needs to be Hitman. Even though Dishonored wasn't a real challenge, it was still fun as fuck to be a teleporting asshole who stabs people.

I need to replay Dishonored one of these days.
I honestly didn't like the game, but I feel like a lot of that has to do with me taking "get low destruction for the good end" as "don't kill anyone ever"
Which quickly makes the game incredibly boring

>>379792409
for
>>379792412

>>379791775
Let me hijack this question, whats wrong with Thi4f? I have never played a game in that franchise, but I do own it despite having no memory of having bought it and I know it apparently hasn't been received very well, but I don't know why.

>>379792512
I'm sure some faggot is going to whine about m-muh nostalgiafags but before he can do that, it's because the other games were pretty great, first two were game changers for the stealth genre, and 4 doesn't do a single thing better than the originals, except better technical graphics

>>379792512
It's been in Humble Bundles and junk
that's probably where you got it from

>>379792512
Pretty much everything's wrong with it. If you've never played a Thief game, it's a boring and derivative stealth-action game with an incoherent, laughable story and it's a mess on a technical level. But if you're a Thief fan, it's worse because it basically does the opposite of everything that made the original games appealing. Of all the disappointing sequels, reboots, and successors, it's easily one of the worst.

>>379792493

Right, sorry, I deleted my post and reposted it because of a confusing typo.

>>379793432
I know. You don't have to fix your posts, I understand what you're saying

>>379792823
> first two were game changers for the stealth genre
you can't be a game changer the second time around through minor improvements

>>379793587
I can't argue with that but it was an improvement