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Now that the dust has settled and we are on the last week of Heavensward, what did /v/ think about the expansion overall? Do you have high hopes for Stormblood?
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Story was fantastic, a really good leap over what ARR was. I can't wait to get into the one for SB.
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reposting compiled Stormblood doc for those who missed it

https://docs.google.com/document/d/14SbRI6EBkgUfQxaQM-qIwN7c__Hvuk4vW6VN11OlKUo/pub
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Who RDM hype here? I keep rewatching the job actions trailer and cannot fucking wait.
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Everything is great if you have low standards
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Beyond majestic mountains
Across the endless vale

Oh mighty, mighty standard
United we prevail

Fly high beyond the ramparts!
Fly high within our soul!
May every conquest be for thee

For glory,
Garlemald!
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>>379762574
>"WoW classes are way too homogeneous!" (even though they're not)
>SB homogenizes jobs to insane degree, literally giving them the same skills
>"BASED!"

>"Nice game, Blizzdrones. You'd really pay SIXTY DOLLARS in order to NOT play it? HAHAHAHAHA"
>SB adds not only character boosts for $60, but quest skippers too which cost about $20
>"AWESOME, no more 100 quests of MSQ after ARR!"

>"WoW's combat is fast, spammy shit. The problem isn't XIV's long a- ass GCD, our game is just well-paced, and deliberate, every action means something!"
>SB makes everything faster across the board
>"This is sick, bro! The game will play so much faster and smoother!"

>"WoW babies are simpletons who need shit add-ons like Weak Auras to even PLAY their shitty game LMAO."
>SB adds shitty auras for every job
>"This is awesome! it'll make keeping track of everything so much easier, my thing looks like a rose, bro!"

>"WoW is just too simple, it's almost unplayable."
>SB is literally nothing but simplification across the board
>"All of these changes are AWESOME."
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>>379763094
I still don't know if I want to level it first or not.
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>>379762921
Yeah, yeah, that's great and all - real nice copypasta (You) got there - but WHO /PLD/ HERE?
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So, faggots. Will they bury WAR and make PLD/DRK the omega tank duo?
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>>379763094
Hyped. I've been fiddling with the RDM sim for fun in between finishing my anima step. Have a plan leveling on early access with a few friends so I can quest as it.
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Reposting those supposed leaks for E3
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>>379763386
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>7/8 people show for raid, trying to figure out what to do
>suggest a8s with a pug
>make it to winged justice before raid end
>8th member is back, bitches about how a8s is too hard despite never doing it.
>group never goes back into a8s, and decides to take break until omega
>Mfw there goes my last chance of clearing a8s before expansion drops.
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>>379763094
I'm playing Samurai first but I will try RDM next, they both look like good DPS.
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It was better than ARR because they didn't have to ease you into the world with typical mmo shit, they just went right for the FF plot. Classes got less boring to play but also more tedious, if that makes sense. Alex didn't have the emotional anchor that Coils did, but the fights were still fun in my opinion. Continued vertical progression is disappointing, but it won't stop me from playing.
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>>379762921
Oh look
It's exactly the same post as last thread.
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>>379763386
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Unrelated question, is it likely you can buy SB on 15th and still receive the early access? By my logic it's still technically pre-ordering.
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Story was damn great. Raid sucked. Primals were better than in ARR
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The Aurum Vale curse strikes again.
Levelling roulette as an AST, synced to lv49, party is DRK, DRG, NIN.
>DRG never uses jumps, only basic GCD weaponskills
>NIN spams kunais even with just two mobs
>they both stand in poison puddles
>DRK is not using darkside
>first boss has me heal through 3 stacks of poison. Each.
>second boss has me ascend DPS 3 times because of AoE, the last 10% is just me in cleric stance and the DRK
>next they pull the entire room and we wipe because both DPS are getting damage on top of the tank, I'm literally spamming benefic 2 and not sparing any lightspeed or essential dignity
>NIN shouts "KIK HEALER" in chat and I'm actually kicked
I really don't know if pulling up the skill floor in Stormblood is a bad thing, because you let players be lazy, or a good thing, because there are so many shitters out there already that it feels like a lost cause.
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Lalas deserve death.
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Give me some RDM glamours, I want to practice being stylish as fuck
They don't have to be red
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According to someone on /v/, From Software will be working on Omega.
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>>379764080
Potatoes are for eating.
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>>379763386
Reporting in.
Remember to toggle your helmets on.
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>>379764082
Vampires cape
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>>379764080
GAS THE POTATOS
RACE WAR NOW
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>>379764082
Gordias.
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>>379763628
>posting a phone screenshot of a fucking reddit post copy pasting what was posted in these very threads earlier today
come the fuck on, man
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>>379763303
>my stale strawman pasta of a few opinions that I repost every other thread will surely sway them to Activi$ion-Bli$$ards dominion this time
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>>379764281
i didn't save the text of it, and it's right there, sorry it got your panties in a twist, man.
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>>379763334

I'll be levelling RDM first and then dusting off the PLD after, benching my DRK I think.
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>>379763094
Monk will always be my first choice, but there's no question about rdm being my backup.
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If I pre-order Stormblood on the 15th can I still get into early access?
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Because of how the last two attempts ended I'm actually scared.
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>>379763303
i'll bite
roles
no one says that and i don't disagree
that's a lie, it'll stay the same
no one shittalks wow because people use weakauras, there's not really any other way to keep track of bar skills organized without having a bar
no one says that and removing bloat is good
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Cid's going to die and Nero will replace him as WoL's tech-guy. Calling it. Someone cap this.
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>there are people with reddit accounts posting in this thread right now
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It was an alright expansion after 3.2. 3.0 (after the leveling, which was great) and 3.1 sucked ass and almost caused me to quit outright. From 3.2 onwards they seemed to get their shit together, and even if the endgame formula has long since gotten stale at least the stuff they're making with the formula is decent.

Raiding was overall shittier than ARR. Not at all sad to see Alexander go. The story and atmosphere were meh, and the designs were all over the place. Gordias had two absolutely terrible fights and fucked tuning, while Creator was just boring and undertuned all around. Midas was stellar and I really hope Omega is closer in mechanical difficulty to it than to Creator.

Honestly the best thing about this expansion was the class design, and that's going away with all of the "streamlining" and dumbing down happening in Stormblood.
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Wew lads, it's almost like I'm on Deviantart!

>>379764996
I'm betting on 6+ Frenchfags and 3 wipes minimum.
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>>379763094
So are RDM's basically spellswords?
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I STILL CAN'T DECIDE BETWEEN RDM BRD AND MAYBE AST FUCK SHIT ASDGJD
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I see basically no one wearing the Adventurer gear tataru worked so hard to make for you. What the hell, guys?
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>>379762574
>3.0
great
>3.05-3.3
What the fuck are you doing
>3.4
Okay
>3.5
Really?
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Can anyone recommend some good sets for a DRK that doesn't look edgy?
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>>379765247
I'm assuming that's a Roe, and that's so damn disgusting.

They're /fit/ af, not these fucking whales
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>>379762574
Waited till the last second cuz I'm fucking dumb.

Gotta catch up from 3.1 onward, can I make it before friday?
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3.0 MSQ was great, progression was pretty fuck awful and that sort of ruined whatever enjoyment I might have had from most of the patches

>god awful Alexander loot system that just clogs up inventory with shit you can't use while you roll need against 7 other fuckers for every single item
>relic is all grind all the time instead of at least having one sort of fun part like ARR
>2 instead of 3 dungeons per patch
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ARR was a barebones, basic experience that I had high hopes of an expansion fleshing out

Heavensward did no such fleshing out, and in many ways was inferior to the base game. It took the shitty progression system from ARR that I had hoped to god was a placeholder and did nothing to spice it up, stuck a bunch of hodgepodge feeling additions onto jobs that made a number of them feel awkward, had a vastly inferior raid tier from almost all angles, and the new types of content it did create were largly complete washes

And despite all of that, 4.0 looks to be even worse. And I'm not even particularly a fan of ARR, I just gave it a pass since it was a shaky reboot
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>>379765448
That's like asking "is there a way to do a Batman-Robin teamup that doesn't look gay"?
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Anyone on Hyperion wanna do PotD?
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>>379762574
Heavensward firmly cemented the negative trends the developers had been building towards across the entire 2.0 series.

>Attempt to add a tiny bit of complexity to classes with randomized positionals on DRG, cast times on BRD, etc-- It's all heavily nerfed within a patch and will be removed with SB due to complaints from the community

>Raids become more focused on raw dps and gear requirements, so they can artificially control player progression by forcing them to wait enough weeks to get the required tomestones to reach the minimum ilvl required to beat the DPS requirements.

>In line with this, all actual gameplay benefits that could be gained from crafting are removed, so that players can't try to cheat the system with high level, materia'd crafted gear. Crafting is now entirely based around glamours and housing.

>More and more items are being pushed to the cash shop, with actual unique outfits unobtainable in game now being relegated to it.

>Dropping from 3 retard-level difficulty dungeons to mindlessly grind through every 3 month period, down to 2 and a waste of time extra that is immediately forgotten due to dumb gameplay and no reward. Please look forward to SB, where it'll be dropping down to one dungeon.

>Due to the difficulty in trying to balance classes with jobs, they've decided to just completely forget about them and abandon what could have been a detailed means of allowing for player customization in favor of more homogenization.

>Secondary stat buffs helped to homogenize them, making focusing on any one of them less effective and further pushing ilvl as the only stat that matters on gear.
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>>379765420
>Tataru Hands my character some japanese schoolgirl shit.
>expect me to get rid of my Masked Summoner Transmog that keeps my character fully clothed.
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>>379762574
SMN and SCH are becoming braindead.
Stupid gauges while making jobs less fun and more homogenized than even ARR.
1 dungeon in even patches.

They keep killing whatever fun is left in the game and too much of their design is based on muh raiding while raids suck.

I fully expect to quit after my sub runs out in 15 days.
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>>379765420
Not slutty enough.
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>still no DRG superjump
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>>379765247

they didn't even try
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Infinity > Fiend > Equilibrium
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>>379765852
see you in 4.5, fatass
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>>379766296
Have a (You).
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>made almost three million the past few days selling Hallowed Chestnut accessories

Why is this shit selling so well
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>>379765803
>>379766070
AH the two extremes.

Too slutty/anime.
Not slutty enough.
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actual beast race when
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>>379766097
All the new skills are underwhelming
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>>379766680
>Also is that flat 100% exp boost under 60 stacked with the boost for jobs whose level are under the person's highest?
that flat 100% IS the boost for jobs whose level are under the highest.
As for your other post, who gives a shit.
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>>379765420
I'm going to full on invasion soon to liberate Mhigger land, I can't dirty her handcrafted clothes in a warzone like that.
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>>379765420
the shoes look like shit
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>>379766824
I give a shit because I'm an indecisive retard who can't pick
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>>379765420
>expect cute seifuku
>receive ugly god eater clothes
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>>379766705
I want them both to suck my dick at the same time.
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>>379766938
ok
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>>379766938
just roll a d6
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cant wait
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really curious, because i want to get back into mmos

how were the raids?
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I loved Heavensward.

The main story was a huge step above ARR as well as the pacing. It was incredibly satisfying to fly once unlocked. They did a good job at making it feel rewarding. Machinist and Astrologian both turned to be fun jobs to play; good additions to the game.

Alexander was the only big disappointment about the expansion. It just felt lackluster compared to Coil. I had a hard time caring about the story surrounding and the gobbies made terrible antagonists.
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>>379766670
You're playing a series where skimpy catgirls and beefy nine-foot muscular behemoths fight giant suits of armor and tentacle monsters using magic bazookas and swords the size of small cars.

If 'too anime' is a thing for you, this is probably the wrong series to begin with.
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>>379763628
Holy fuck redditors are retarded
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anybody have gathering experience? got my botonist to 60 and working on miner now and im at 37, might be able to get to 60 before expansion. is there any money to be made at the start of expansions with 2.0 and 3.0 materials? Should i go after materials that are responsible for the HQ gear when stormblood drops?
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>>379763628
>Ixion mount
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>>379767273
pretty good
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>>379767273
Midas was great. A3S was a tad much, but if it was the last leg of the tier it would have been fine. A4S was overtuned. Creator is much easier, although that could also possibly be because of how overbuffed MCH/AST/BRD were.
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>>379765420
because like to look practical for my role which her set doesn't
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forward
and
back
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>>379767273
really solid, it's hard to say if coil or alex was overall better fight wise
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>>379767542
>>379767418

that's good to hear. i use to raid mythic progression with my old guild on wow, so i'm interested in "smash your head against a wall and buy 20 rolls of toilet paper for all the wipes" kind of raid
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>>379765448
make a set for a paladin
then equip a greatsword
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>be a lala DRK
>get a lala WHM
>15 minute Qarn Hard
Why are lalas so perfect :3
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>>379767743
lol
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>>379762574
>Now that the dust has settled
Kill yourself
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This will be the ideal raid group

>PLD/DRK
>DRG - CRITS
>NIN - EXTRA DAMAGE
>RDM - AOE BUFF
>BARD - CRITS FROM SONGS
>SCH - CRITS
>AST - CARDS

Prove me wrong
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Did they ever actually do anything to WHM after acknowledging that big ass complaint thread?
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>>379767375
Gather materia
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>>379765381
Yes

Though in this game, on paper, they're jus mages with melee range spells thrown in
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>>379764281
Reminder that all the previous leaks on /v/ about the media tour turned out to be true.
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Have they shown what the new PVP gear will look like? Or what the retroactive SAM and RDM PVP gear/weps will look like?
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>>379765786
>>Due to the difficulty in trying to balance classes with jobs, they've decided to just completely forget about them and abandon what could have been a detailed means of allowing for player customization in favor of more homogenization.
please be more subtle with your bait, jobs were always meant to be superior to classes
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>>379767896
WHY DID YOU TYPE OUT BARD BUT ABBREVIATE EVERYTHING ELSE, IS THIS SOME KIND OF CODE?
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>>379767896
You need SAM for the crazy dps
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>>379768128
any other dps bring a buff
sam is mnk tier
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I realize it's a stupid question but I have a 28 ARC, BRD will be a lot more fun than this right?
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>>379765448
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>>379767789
each lala is unique unlike the dozens of cats and lizards that all look the same.
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>>379768282
Nah, main damage of Bard is two dots, and waiting for an oGCD to come off cooldown. You spam heavy shot until straight shot expires or straighter shot procs.
It's more complete at 60, but every job is.
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Why can I only imagine those fucking potatoes as warriors or mages? Mages I understand but I don't get why warrior fits them to me.
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>>379768253
>comparing SAM godly potencies and DPS with MNK cucks "highest" DPS
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>>379768417
So this is what a tumor looks like
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>>379768253
Samurai is monk on steroids.
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>>379768489
Even with SB changes? If so what's more interesting with ability usage then? Was thinking RDM but I'd rather wait for the hype to die down
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>>379768551
>potato warrior
/kick
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>>379765595
If go hard without stopping before friday you absolutely can
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>>379766296
kill yourself

this post actually made me mad
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>>379768551
Nym was majority Lalafell and their army was comprised completely of units of marauders supported by scholars.
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so, now that DRK is literally dumbed down, and PLD got some changes, what tank is the most fun?
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They really ought to fix the autoplay on CS textboxes. The awkward pause inbetween each one almost ruins the whole point of it.
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>>379768671
SB changes, look at the prelim patch notes. The stuff we saw was an April build, so we just have a rough idea of what's gonna be changed.
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>>379768551
>Warrior quest literally roes all the fucking time
>hmm lalas fit warrior well
(yoo)
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>>379766296
Blackbosom> all those you mentioned
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>>379768671
It's changing a lot with SB. All the songs are being reworked. You'll be switching through songs.

Nobody here knows how 4.0 bard will play (because we haven't played it) so any advice about it is pretty irrelevant.
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which classes are the hardest to play in their role? like, melee dps, tank, healer, and ranged dps

i really like complexity and difficulty in my mmo gameplay so if there's one that stands above all i'd appreciate it if you could fill me in
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>>379768881
DPS requires the most effort
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>>379768789
we'll find out on Friday
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>>379766705
Goddamn it

Im a twin, i will never not find this image fucking weird
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>>379763303
who keeps on spamming this stale pasta
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>>379768798
>>379768872
Alright I guess I'll see how it plays out in SB. What I don't really get is if BRD currently is boring cast times aside, what dps is actually considered fun
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>The last good patch was 2.4

As entire package heavensward is pretty alright. If you were an idiot and played through each patch it was dogshit. Release schedule was garbage.
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>>379768061
Jobs were designed to be very narrowly aimed towards playing a specific role-- Tank, DPS, Healer; while classes were intended to be able to expand out and dabble in other roles as a result of being able to choose a wider variety and more skills, allowing for more effective and versatile play in small parties where all roles may not be filled.

Unfortunately, with 2.0's launch there weren't enough skills to make classes worthwhile in 99% of cases, nor was there content that they could be effective in, and since then almost every major patch has shat on them in some way or another.

Marauder and a few other classes actually had some uses early on-- Specifically, marauder in PVP was an absolute monster from being able to stack literally every cross-class damage boosting skill alongside berserk, the single strongest damage boosting skill normally balanced by Warrior not having access to any other damage boosters. This alongside a set of powerful attacks that had a built in slashing damage buff and no directional attacks made them a legit DPS role when they had all their buffs up, while also being able to temporarily switch to a strong tanking build by throwing up all of marauder's innate defensive cooldowns.

By going marauder, you traded overall defense and offense for short bursts of extremely high offense with a burst of modest defense.

They could have chosen to expand more upon classes and give similar choices to other jobs, but decided to essentially remove them from the game instead.
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I like a lot about XIV, but what absolutely kills it is their progression system. It's complete garbage. There's no sense of reward, it's incredibly repetitive, and it got old by 2.1

Why, why on earth do they continue to use it 2 expansions later?
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>>379766296
Fiend > Equilibrium >>>>>> Infinity
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>>379767401
Isnt it just a recolored fenrir
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>>379767974
Not really, they actually use the sword. Their melee attacks are enhanced through magic, but they function as melee attacks do, having no cast bars and consuming TP.
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>>379768881
Monk, paladin, and white mage ate the current hardest jobs. But everything is going to turn into baby mode jobs in less than a week.
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>>379769142
Ixion is the lightning unicorn from FFX, not the wolf.
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>>379767896
>PLD/DRK
>NIN/SAM
>RDM
>Who cares
Sword comp is the only comp
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>>379768881
Unironically DPS. There's a shitstorm about healers not DPSing during downtime (80% of the time) and tanking is just a basic rotation
>>379769153
Are you joking
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>try out the new SB pvp to see the changes
>premades still have an unfair advantage over everyone else
>you still get hit by caster LB even when you ran out of them 3 seconds ago
>it's still not fun
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>>379768847
It's not that warrior doesn't fit Roe. It's that I can't imagine lalafells as any class other than mages and warriors. Work on your reading comprehension.
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>>379769032
All of them 50 and under are okay, with DRG, BLM and MNK being more "complete", while the rest feel more "complete" 52 and up.

I personally like DRG, NIN, and SMN, although SMN up to 50 is kinda aids.
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>Fray
Please tell me that I'll see her again in the post 50 quests
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>>379768253
SAM deals like triple the fucking damage of monks, they don't need party buffs.
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>tfw still a whole fucking week left until SB
reminds me of the ARR beta and how you got to play for a whole 3 days until you had to wait until the next beta event, weeks later

it was a simpler time, all things considered. people running around in la noscea and the black shroud killing stuff, FATEs totally crowded
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>>379768376
Woah wtf how are you playing SAM already
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>>379769223
>tanking is just a basic rotation
>t. someone who never tanked
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>>379766296
infinity > equilibrium > fiend
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>>379769328
my dad is yoshi
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>>379769223
>>379769223
>>379768952
>>379769153

specifically which dps jobs? i heard monk is just underpowered, and paladin/white mage don't really suit me
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>>379769341
>I have to occasionally glance at an enmity bar please give commends
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>>379769314
>her
Real life Fray is a dude. Oh wait that's revealed in post 50 quests oh fuuuuuck
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>>379769314
Stop playing a female character.
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>>379769314
>poisoned again
>paranoid and tired
>got angry as soon as all the GC leaders "subtly" implied you should take care of Shinryu
>Papalymo dead
>Y'shtola gonna die too
Yeah, Fray will be back
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>>379769084
Retards like it because "I CAN UPGRADE MY CHARACTER WITHOUT RAIDING" despite the upgrades being completely artificial because all previous content is invalid.
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>>379769084
Any idea you can think of that's better is probably worse.

RNG gear from fates or other content? Worse. Rng sucks.
Letting everybody gear up immediately without capped limitations? Worse. It would kill the longevity of the game.
Forcing people to do extreme primals for gear? Worse. You'd alienate a large chunk of the playerbase and subscriber numbers would suffer.
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I always hit darkarts before I syphon strike and now I'll have to stop doing that unless it is worth it to dark arts both SS and soul heater. Going to be hard breaking that habit.
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>>379769414
MCH can be hard at first until you get their piano opener down. DRG too
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>>379769414
DRG, DRK, and NIN are probably in the higher tiers of complicated
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>>379763094
Could not be more excited for RDM. Would have played it from the beginning had it been there at launch.

I'll level SAM afterward, and then return to my old standby, DRG, but RDM will be my new main for certain.
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>>379769314
>her
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Does anyone have an idea how to clean up my act results? For example if I wanna just get my party on my screenshot, I could delete enemies etc from the logs.
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>>379769423
>t. someone who never raided as tank
Have a (You) and fuck off to babbymode content where you belong.
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>Found a static in time
>Open spot for exactly what I wanted to play
FeelsGoodMan
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>>379767926
Please look forward to nothing in the patch notes and 600 more pages of complaints.
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>>379769541
That is an incredibly cute cat on the right.
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>>379769584
o wow u got me :o
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>>379769314
Was it a girl or a guy? Some dialogue referred to Fray as a guy and others as a girl.
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>>379769151

They are literally just melee range spells with no cost, with sword swing animations

RDM autoattacks are staff and cane tier bad
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>>379768881
There is no job within each role that current has any complexity or difficulty, and they will actually be further simplified with the release of Stormblood.

Square Enix is unhappy with there being a gap in effectiveness between players who refuse to learn how to play their class, and the players who read a forum thread and know how to play their class, so they're making an effort to shorten the gap between the two by dumbing down the gameplay experience for everyone.

By their calculations, this should increase the sub count, as they were apparently hemorrhaging subs due to players being disheartened by how crazy complex the classes have been.
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>>379769454
>tfw you're your waifu is yourself
Can't wait to see her again.
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>>379769291
I mean the main thing is I don't like mashing one button mindlessly if that helps
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>>379766097
Was kinda hoping for a cool ass spear throw too.
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>Users who have registered their early access codes and are currently playing FINAL FANTASY XIV will have their game client updated automatically as we near early access and will not need to download a separate client.
Any day now.
It won't make the 16th come any faster but it'll feel like it if I already have the expansion downloaded.
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>>379769414
MNK is only underpowered if you dont have the skill to play it right in which case it's great damage
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>>379767896
Why not PLD/WAR?
What does DRK offer over WAR now that the Trick attack on soul survivor was proved pure bullshit?
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>>379769874
You already have one
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>>379769707
At least glance at shit you're trying to act knowledgeable on.
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>>379768995
Is there anything in that pasta that's wrong?
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>>379768417
>Mario Lala
Man, why haven't I seen that before? Where's the Luigi Elezen?
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>>379769078
>Marauder and a few other classes actually had some uses early on-- Specifically, marauder in PVP was an absolute monster from being able to stack literally every cross-class damage boosting skill alongside berserk, the single strongest damage boosting skill normally balanced by Warrior not having access to any other damage boosters. This alongside a set of powerful attacks that had a built in slashing damage buff and no directional attacks made them a legit DPS role when they had all their buffs up, while also being able to temporarily switch to a strong tanking build by throwing up all of marauder's innate defensive cooldowns.

I wish I could remember more of 50cap pvp, all I remember about MRD was being able to stoneskin myself and go to town on solos. Healers being able to enter cleric's stance on the other hand...

But either way, didn't MRD have a very limited spot in some Coil runs too? I remember MRD being able to Perfect Dodge right through a lot of tankbusters when ROG/NIN was first introduced.
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>>379769481
You may not like it but the current system of tomestones is the best process.

All you can do to make it better is offer more ways to acquire the tomestones. Which they have been doing. Hunts, POTD, PVP, roulette.
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>>379769687
Real Fray is a guy, the "Fray" in 30-50 is just your Darkside manifesting.

>>379769847
DRG, MNK, NIN, SMN is better post 50 but you probably don't have the patience for that. BLM is more than SMN early 50 at least.
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>>379769153
What's so hard about Paladin?
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Where the shota at?
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>>379770110
I just mean in general, BRD seemed pretty not braindead but if it's just mashing two dots and two ocgds then eh
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What level do Samurai and Red Mage start at?
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>>379769710

well fuck, any recommendations on who to play then? i played a warlock/balance druid in wow. ninja seems really interesting
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>>379770316
50.
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>>379770316
50
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>>379770316
50
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>>379769314
>Her
Fray is a man. You only refer to Fray as "she" in the story because you're playing a female character and Fray is (You).
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>>379763301
For glory!
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>>379770316
50
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>>379769948
The Blackest Night is good for early progression. WAR might end up better on farm mode, but being able to toss around super stoneskins to DPS or regular stoneskins to the MT is bretty good.

t. one of my healers literally has narcolepsy
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>>379770316

14
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>>379770207
Not having Shield Oath when the game only ever wants to give you Brayflox's Longnap for one thing. But that's about the only thing really.
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>>379765448
Heavy Allagan or Gordian.
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>>379770272
Everything post 52 gets better. So up to whatever you find fun via videos and potd
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>>379770316

The bottom now we're here
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>>379770207
People suck at keeping hate with large groups with just flash.

I don't know why. When I leveled paladin, I never had trouble.
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>Want to play DRG
>Levelling LNC
>attack combo is literally 2 buttons until 28
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>>379770005
I did

Care to prove me wrong?
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>>379770007
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>>379769714
I legitimately expected the player character to reach out and give yourself a hug at the end of the DRK level 50 solo instance. It really looked like that's what you were about to do.

It doesn't help that right after that, your inner darkness gives you a very romantic 'if it ever becomes too much, leave everything to me.'
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>>379770636
>until 28

you still don't know it do you
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>>379770505
I was avoiding PotD specifically because I didn't want to spoil jobs but it seems like the best choice at this point. I'll go try it out today and thanks for the replies

Also based on HW is every shitter going to be flocking to RDM?
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Tell me the truth, /v/:
Do you skip the dialogue/story?
Do you read the Levequest text?
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>>379769414

DRG main here, DRG is stupid easy right now. You press one sequence of 5 buttons, then a 2nd sequence of 5 buttons, and repeat them over and over, hitting all your oGCDs as they come up.

The ONLY complexity you could see in it is that the 4th skill in each of those two sequences is randomly chosen between two skills that each have a different positional requirement (And mind you, the penalty for failing it is very slight) and the blood of the dragon status, which if you just use geirskogul whenever you get it close to the 30 second duration cap you'll be using it more effectively than 90% of DRG players.
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>>379770835
I always read main story and job quests.
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>>379768417
>maid outfit
>twintails
>sice hair
>meme pampadour
Wow so unique compared to cats and lizards
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>>379770723
n-no
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>>379770808
Yes. Rdm is braindead as it is so it'll attract even more shitters.

Please look forward to it
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>>379770808
>is every shitter going to be flocking to RDM

All of them.
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>>379770835
I skip the fetch quest bullshit, when something's about to go down I'll read or listen.
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GIVE ME THE STASIS LOOP
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>>379763386
DRK main here, leveling PLD for stormblood, it's at 56 right now.

I'm really just doing it for the Garo title
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>>379770460
Shield Oath at 30 on Friday
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>>379770943
Well fug, animations looked cool but as I said I want a relatively complex rotation and general unbraindeadedness (definitely a word)
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>>379770835
One of my favorite quest NPCs.
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>want to get back into ffxiv
>download client
>my highest character is like lvl 25 rogue
>remember it was a cat girl
>instantly filled with regret because i dont want to play a cat girl
>will have to go through 25 boring levels again

fuck me
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>>379765448
Yafaemi set
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>>379768572
>>379768642
>>379769317
buttmad sam shitters. You won't be part of the meta. Get used to it.
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>>379770853
My DRG doesn't have geirskogul yet, can you explain the benefit of waiting right before BotD runs out to use it? Does it give you less bonus BotD time if you use it sooner than that?
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why does the concept of a "main" even exist in this game? why wouldn't you play every job? it's like people don't want to get their moneys worth
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>>379770835
I used to read everything. Then PotD came out and killed the last bit of hope I had that the game would get content with some effort put into it.
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>>379770682
>Weaponskill
>Instant
>Triggers GCD
>TP and unique resource cost
Melee DPS are melee range mages by your definition, too.

I don't disagree that it's largely flavour but functionally it all checks out. They build up resources at range and then dip into a legitimate melee stance to resource dump.
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>>379771119
Look if you have a fantasia lying around somewhere
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>>379770931
>Always wanted a nice pomp
>its added but its ugly
>and relegated to meme status with the afro
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>>379771260
Because leveling is boring even by MMO standards
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>>379771219
I won't even be playing it. I hate melee.

But unless SAM is nerfed, it's gonna be a must pick for raids. Utility stops being important when one job has such a huge dps gap above the rest.
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>>379769976
But it's not cool enough
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>>379771260
because gearing every job can be a pain
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I've got the MMO itch and might spring for FFXIV now that Stormblood is releasing, but I'd like to try the free trial first. Will any of the changes Stormblood is bringing be reflected in the trial period from 1-30 or would I get the same exact shit if I just started playing right now?
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>>379771110
Mylla was great. The way Aldis got under her skin was just too cute.
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The story was much better except for making the end of ARR mean nothing. I quit playing before 3.1 because of the delay, and only started playing again 2 months ago but I've been playing every day. I love FFXIV besides its flaws, and while excited for Stormblood I'm not sure it will last me too long just like HW did at launch.
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>>379771484
>m-muh deeps
why not just run full sam if the fucking dps dick is so huge?
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>>379771445
>its added but its ugly
Oi,
Ima ore no kono atama no koto nantsutta?
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>>379771219
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>>379771669
The job systems is getting a bit of an overhaul, so you would be able to see some of that, like the all new role actions. PvP should be included in the free trial, and that is getting massively changed as well.
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>>379771260
Because capped tombstones and raid lock outs don't allow you to gear multiple jobs simultaneously. Not for a long time anyway.
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>>379771754
IS THIS A TTGL REFERENCE?
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>>379771781
>day of liveletter
>OUR EXPANSION
>few days later
>into the shed
How did it go so wrong?
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>>379771741
people are actually considering it bro
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>>379768417
jesus christ
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I'm the retard asking about BRD, never ran PotD before, how do you actually set up bars ahead of time?
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>>379771119
What happened to your 1 free charity Fantasia?
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>>379771741
The other dps will be there just to make the samurai hit harder.
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>>379771119
I'am pretty sure you have a FREE Fantasia Square sent you as a veteran reward.

use it mate if you dont want to be a catgirl anymore.
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>>379771890
they thought the chakra shit was going to be 100%
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>>379772000
Go in with a fixed party so you're solo, then just sit there arranging shit
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>>379771942
I seriously doubt yoship and company would've fucked balancing so hard that the best comp for raid dps is stacking all 1 class.

surely they're not that incompetent

surely
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>>379771854
>Because capped tombstones and raid lock outs

seriously fuck this shit, it's a lame way to pad out content. i should be able to play as much as i want for what i'm paying
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>>379771890
Post more OC like this.
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>>379772000
nvm didn't register that you've never done it at all, just go through it normally, you start at level 1
if you can start from 51 then you can go in solo and make your bars
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>>379771890
>Monk wanted raid utility instead of high dps because they wouldnt be in raids so we added it
>but took some damage away!
>Also DRG gets more potency increases and keep their raid utility AND get more utility
>SAM will be selfish dps because we didnt learn out lesson with monk, but they have high fucking potencies that utility doesnt matter
SASUGA YOSHI
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ive been checking this game out recently and might buy it. How lost am i gonna be? the only other final fantasy ive played is 8. is there also anything i should know before getting into this game?
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>>379772142
Then you'd gear everything up within a month and have no reason to play.
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>>379772090
It is. 30% chance to gain a stack on crit is passive, plus what others will give you when you use brotherhood.
The problem with monk comes from the nerf to pretty much all potencies.
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>>379771294
Well i like that it uses melee resources at least
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>>379771232
So, when you use BotD, it starts a buff with like 20 seconds on it that raises your jump damage and lets you use Geirskogul. Whenever you use Geir, it takes away 10 seconds from your buff. However, every time you use your 4th combo hit, it adds 15 seconds.

Ideally, you'd want to spam Geir as much as possible while still leaving enough blood for you to make it through your combo and generate more.

It's safer to just wait til you max out the duration at 30 seconds, use geir, then build it back up to 30, repeat.

Worth noting: This mechanic is getting dumbed down with SB so that you don't have to manage the timer anymore. Please look forward, etc.
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>>379772265
>so we added it
It was too much utility though so they removed the INT debuff on DK
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>>379772309
then there isn't much content huh?
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>>379772282
It's probably the best MMO of the genre for new players to get into, as it spends an inordinate amount of time trying to teach you to play it and introduces all the mechanics to you one by one. You'll be fine.

If you've only played 8 you'll miss out on some hot references though. The game references FF4 at seemingly every opportunity.
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>>379772058
>7
>>379772008
>>379771345


thanks senpaitachi

now i can be a cute lala boy(male) ninja soon
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Just started playing as a marauder, should I switch to a dps so I can go through the game and learn the game easier or just stay a tank?
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>>379772104
>>379772238
So go run it normally and deal with actions as I unlock them or run it solo or what? I'm confused
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>>379772503
being insatiable doesn't mean there's not enough content

sasuga manchild, can't appreciate spreading things out, has to have it all at once
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>>379772480
They removed almost all sources of damage/attribute debuffs in the game, it's not just MNK that was affected by that. The only ones that are left are cross-class exclusive now.
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>>379770853
>>379772395
>Worth noting: This mechanic is getting dumbed down with SB so that you don't have to manage the timer anymore.
Another example of a mechanic that requires just the tiniest bit of personal awareness and micromanagement being simplified because the average player is a fucking dunce and cannot be bothered to learn to play their job.
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>>379770434
>t. one of my healers literally has narcolepsy
I had a guy with that when I played Flyff.
He tanked Meteonyker (when it was still relevant) with his Knight while sleeping, it was hilarious.
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>>379772282
If you decide to play, feel free to use my friend code : 99UGA385

When you make your service account, you get some bonus items to help you level up and some gear at certain levels depending on what you decide to spend your tokens on :

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/friend_recruit/
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>>379771890
Monk will be dealing just as much damage as dragoon and ninja. There is literally no reason to play monk anymore.
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>>379772675
Don't respond to that shitty bait.
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>>379772641
go in normally and deal with actions as you unlock them
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>>379772282
This is an MMO, its completely different than any other FF, even XI. Don't even think about the new expansion to start, just play from the beginning of the base game, you'll get drip-fed everything you need to know at a real gradual pace.
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>>379772137

>back in warlords of draenor when mages were op as fuck with prismatic crystal and the mannoroth trinket
>somebody stacked a group full of mages
>was able to kill the basic patchwerk boss in 20 seconds

fun times
>>
TALES FROM THE DUTY FINDER: EU EDITION:

>Great Gubal Hard
>Sub 12 minute run, everything is beautiful, I fall in love with all my team mates for being so competant

>Sohr Khai
>Tank is new, has the same HP as me (a Summoner)
>Does not speak at all, pulls a single pack at a time, which would be fair enough except that he can't hold aggro for a split second. I end up tanking the entire fucking dungeon including the bosses.

>Sohm Al HM
>There's me, another Summoner and a Scholar
>Think to myself that this is taking a bit long, notice that my DoT's are the only ones up at any given time. Even the other Summoner ISN'T putting down any DoT's at all, nor a Shadow Flare. Same with the SCH.
>Get to the first boss, Summoner gets her fucking pet locked out of the instance and hardcasts Summon rather than using Swiftcast. As i'm staring at that idiocy I notice the SCH has somehow died and we haven't even hit the exploding plumes phase yet.
>Drag them kicking and screaming to a clear nearly 40 minutes later even though there was no first time bonus.

Such is life in the EU.
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>>379772697
I also forgot to mention, they're removing the randomized 4th combo skill, so you will no longer have to watch the game when fighting! Thanks Yoshida!
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>>379763386
I miss my old character before I fantasia'd out of boredom.
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>>379772282
>is there also anything i should know before getting into this game?
There's a free trial up to level 35.
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>>379772770
>Monk will be dealing just as much damage as dragoon and ninja.
lol did you see the nerfs to their potencies?
removed dots
demolish duration reduced
damage nerfed across the board

monk is fucking finished. period. we asked to be made just a little bit relevant and they fucking killed us.
let this be a lesson to anyone who thinks they should ask yoshi to improve their class.
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Who /hyur/ here?
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>>379763386
>>
Oh boy, i just got a blue pony.
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>>379772932
It makes you wonder how people like that even pass the single instance MSQ battles.
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>>379765420
I wear the shirt on occasion, but I feel really out of place with it in cutscenes. Everyone else wears battle gear, I'm wearing a dress shirt.
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>>379773098
yo but im a femlander
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the weak should fear the strong
>>
Whose ready for Doman whore houses, opium dens and Lala prostitutes?
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>>379772675
why should someone else decide how things should be paced for me? you're just getting jewed and justify it by trying to appear mature, fucking kek
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>>379772932
it's pretty interesting to see how inconsistent chaos df is

i had some really good players and some really shit ones, i never get inbetween runs
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>>379773232
How big is your dick?
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>>379773323
>tfw the hot baths had a lot of naked male roes
My new idle spot
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>>379765420
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>>379772751
he's fine as long as he doesn't eat before raiding. We have had him fall asleep and keep healing on winning runs though. Narcolepsy is fucking weird.
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>>379773076
SAM is new Monk now, even less utility, literally zero if you have NIN or WAR in your group
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>>379773323
>Anything dark in the fantasy japan
Come on
It will be heaven on earth with best everything and only empire will be dark and evil here
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>>379773419
slut
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SAM's Senor Sabotender katana is totally going to be this right?
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>>379773232
Male or female, midlander or highlander, all are welcome so long as you are Hyur master race.

Gas the catsluts, the lizardsluts, the potatos, the slendermen, and the futaroe.
Race war now.
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>>379773098
fem highlander reporting
used my free fantasia to change from sun cat a couple of years ago
careful with that character posting,
you might trigger some autists
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>>379773463
>people are hyped for this while talking shit about the Amigos
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>>379765420
Sky rat gear is superior
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>>379773098
I am one of 10 female midlanders in existence, yes.
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>>379763386
>>379773098
Ever since 1.0 bros
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>>379772932
>Sohm Al HM
>BLM occasionally just goes catatonic for a few seconds
>Does not cast Thunder, Leylines, Enochian, Raging Strikes, Quelling Strikes or Fire IV
>Casts Blizzard III while in Umbral Ice III
>Builds up Astral Fire with Fire I
Aether isn't that much better, friend. We all get special groups now and again.
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>>379773558
Isn't this called Shichi whatever?

I keep seeing this sword with 7 points in japanese media, not sure what's the deal with it
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>>379763303
I'll bite.

I played WoW way too long and I'm just tired of it.
The game engine is ancient and there is no way around it. I've moved on to something else. It's that simple.
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>>379772636
Stay tank
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>>379773770
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven-Branched_Sword
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>>379773740
really cute fuccboi
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>>379763386
>level PLD instead of DRK or WAR because i believed in them being buffed
>They do
PRAISE
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>>379773558
SAM's weapon has to fit inside a sheath.
It could be DRK's weapon though.
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One step closer to the removal of classes after 30 where you automatically equip your job stone and they flat out refuse you from doing content that is higher than 30 on a class, like PvP has done so in 4.0
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>>379773098
Started as a midlander
Switched to miqo'te
Switched back to midlander
Switched to au'ra
Switched back to midlander

My conclusion is that midlanders are the cutest.
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What's the best role to play for a first timer, I kinda want to go for warrior, but think a spa would be better for learning the game and easier to start with.
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>>379773924
I suppose that's true.
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Yo real question to people who play FFXIV, doesn't the huge global cooldown kill you? I mean I tried it, to be fair I never got to a high level, but the combat was so slow and dry having to wait such a long time after each press. Does something change? Does the combat get any more interesting than press a button, have an extremely long amount of time to think (if thinking is even required), then press another button in what is likely a flowchart of button-pressing?
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>>379765216
I pretty much agree with everything you said. I'm still cautiously optimistic about class changes in SB, though.
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>>379773558
Reminds me of second best RO sword.
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Help, where do I get chocobo feet? Chocobo suit doesn't have them
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>>379774063
the gcd stops being a factor at endgame because you have so many skills.
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>>379772828
Okay thanks fampai
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>NEETs are actually going to rush through the game at launch by skipping cutscenes and playing nonstop and then later complain that they're bored
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>Reddit actually posted that fake leak lol
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>>379772932
>expert roulette was the same as always
>players with E underlined use stock phrase macros
>tank pulls multiple packs
>healer goes ham on everything
>nobody dies to sloppy
>done in 15 minutes
It's nice on Tonberry.
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>>379763386
though undecided on wether to go PLD or DRK first
regardless im going to abuse the queues to level 70 all the tanks on my week off
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>>379773098
MONK PRIDE

I'm switching to sam first chance I get.
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>>379774063
>Does something change?
Yea, but you'd have to get further into the game. I wouldn't recommend it since you didn't like the start of it though. No point trudging through a few dozen hours to get to the point in the game you like.
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>>379763628
>Skill Speed now affects auto attacks
SPEEEEEEEED BOOOOOOOOOOOOST
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>>379774192
How many times are you going to post this
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>>379765102

Nah, I doubt they'll kill anyone major that's used in big side quests.
It creates an immersion breaking paradox for people going back and doing them.

Which is why Y'shtola is going to survive that blow.
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>>379772636
>Marauder

Stay Tank man Marauder and eventually Warrior is basically DPS that can take a hit. If you want to learn how a class plays incredibly quickly do POTD.
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>>379774235
>HA coat without the rest of the HA set
I hate you and everyone like you. There is nothing else in the game that actually matches the HA tank coat's textures.
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>>379773749
>quelling strikes in dungeons
i do not do this
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>>379773463
Every city and location in the game has a lot of dark shit in it without any hiding it, Doma will have plenty of dark stuff. Don't forget, theres going to be Chinese references in Doma, which is already a pretty big deal for a Japanese game
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>>379765420
I dont wear civilian clothes
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>>379774002

What if you never take the quest to unlock the job?
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>>379774358
i dont really like it either but im not gonna bother changing it till after SB
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>>379774002
Honestly wouldn't be so bad if they add a cross-job sort of thing. The classes feel like dead weight pretty much, I doubt we're going to be getting a summoner/scholar split anytime soon.

Just add new things to do within the jobs. Add in greatswords for PLDs, shields for DRK, tanking abilities for DRGs and SMN pets, give us some variety. I can understand the difficulty in balancing a main and sub-job, but this can be done even by the laziest and most incompetent designer.
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>>379774220
Posted my dungeon skills bullshit too
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>>379774192
>people think they can level SAM and RDM without sitting in queues 90% of the time
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>>379774063
This is the battle system when you have all your skills.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrP6E2ZT33s

It's faster for some jobs like monk and ninja. They have unique buffs that increase their skill speed dramatically.
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>>379773812
But you have 200 TRILLION AP left to grind out!
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>>379774141
>tfw want the chocobo suit
>chocobo is only rank 4
end my suffering
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>>379773076
>90% crit rate with full party buffs during opener
>using forbidden chakra once every 25 gcds makes up the potency loss
>The only job in the game with a +dmg buff higher than 15%, and it's 30%
>that 30% scales multiplicatively with its greased lightning damage buff

I think monk is going to be a better position than people think.
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>>379763628

And here are the others that were shared earlier today

>New Grade VI Materia is so strong you can only meld one per item slot. (You can no longer meld on that item if you affix a grade VI.)
>Carbonized Matter is no longer needed to meld.
>Collectible stations being added to every major city.
>Player inventory is being increased from 100 > 140.
>New Kloe minion and doll
>Contacts will now show not only the job they were on, but also what duty you were in.
>Allagan Tombstone of Verity. (uncapped.)
>Allagan Tombstone of Creation (Capped, comes out with raid tier.)
>Scriptures and Lore are being removed and all old content will only give poetics.
>Plants ready to be harvested will no longer wither.
>Many old recipes are being changed to have less items needed.
>Two new hairstyles
>Two new emotes (/puckerup is one.)
>You will be level synced in instanced content however you will now have access to all your skills.

Again, grain of salt, etc.
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>>379764231
Time for the Lalacaust
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>>379765420
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>PvP
>pillar hugging
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>>379774564
lmaoing @ you >>379774471
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>>379774471
lmao there are people still discussing the skills in dungeons. legendary
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>>379764013
If it's AV just leave. It's not worth the xp if you have even one idiot in the party.
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>>379774484

>Implying I don't have a healerbro in the wings willing to help me queue for roulettes because he wants to explore the new zones with me
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>>379774382
Doma will be exception
It's japanese games after all
How many doma refugees commited crimes in the Eorzea?
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>>379765420
It looks like fucking trash
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>>379774471
kek, they eat it up everytime
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>>379774720
i'm not bothered. thought a lot of it was too good to be true
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>>379774471
Unlikely. Verity and creation don't match the tomestone naming pattern.
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Can you glamour the Padjal weapons over other shit, and how likely am I to be viewed as a permashitter if I do so? A sword and board made of pure light just seems so stylish.
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>>379773558
I am curious to see how crazy they go with katanas. I expect Masamune to be a possible weapon for SAMs, as well as numerous myth based swords
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>>379774141
Should I feel bad for this girl?
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>>379774749
>>379774720
>>379774817
>>379774841


Really makes you think. What other "leaks" could make people believe were true?
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>>379774561
>monk
>goes all out. full buffs, debuffs. hitting their rotation perfectly

>sam
>farts on the boss and matches monk's dmg
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>>379774873
why wouldn't you be able to and yes
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>>379774873
I've heard of people doing that with the GGL set to have what looks like a mage tank, looks neat.

You can, need alch glamour prisms.
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>>379774561
Assuming the leaks are correcting, the whole "Auto attacks now scale with attack speed" should be a HUGE buff to passive MNK dps.
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>that feel when I don't want to do anything except play SAM

Friday can't come soon enough.
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>>379774539
The best way to level it is to do the challenge log entries each week. Go to Urth's Font at South Shroud and kill the level 50 water sprites. It takes maybe 10 minutes to get 100 kills for the challenge.
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>>379774873
>A sword and board made of pure light just seems so stylish.
WOULD be stylish if it weren't for the fact that the Padjali weapons are existing weapon models with all textures and details removed. You will be looked upon with extreme levels of disdain if you're seen with a Padjali or Kinna weapon, glamoured or not.
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>>379765420
I only use the top, the rest is garbage.
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>>379774881
They promised HW raid weapons for new classes, I wonder how glass katana and rapier will look like, considering every other sword (pld, drk, nin) is glass-styled
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>>379770835
Don't skip the story even though it's probably my least favorite ff story but I do skip most side stuff. Astrologian story was boring and was pretty much about "muh stars"
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>>379774958
>drg
>goes all out. full buffs, debuffs, hitting their rotation perfectly

>brd
>goes all out. full buffs, debuffs, hitting their rotation perfectly

>mch
>goes all out. full buffs, debuffs, hitting their rotation perfectly

>nin
>goes all out. full buffs, debuffs, hitting their rotation perfectly

>sam
>farts on the boss and matches monk's dmg

The joke is that if sam is OP enough to bring despite no raid versatility, that doesn't just effect mnk
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>>379774958
>MNK has to lose their stacks for tornado kick
>SAM gets a 1080 potency slash just because
What did yoshi means by this?
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>my face when I have 296 Ul'dahn Sparklers
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Rank the Jobs in 4.0 based on easiest to hardest.

All I know is that SMN followed by RDM and MNK will be the easiest and babies first rotation.
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>>379774958

I've always enjoyed putting in way more effort to achieve similar numbers.
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>>379775039
those weapons matter no longer in Stormblood though if anything it should be okay to use them as Glamour.
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>>379775127
A MNK called yoshi a fag in a duty finder party, he ends up like WHM.
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>>379775127
Japanese katana is the deadliest sword ever made?
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Will I have to buy the base game, heavensward, AND stormblood?
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>>379775115
This is the only way you midcore memers won't whine about no utility. Yet you're still here, whining so I guess it doesn't matter what you do in the end.
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>>379775264
You'll still get laughed at for having a trash sense of aesthetics. NOBODY likes the Padjali or Kinna weapons unironically. Nobody is stupid enough to actually like textureless weapons that don't even look like they're made of light.
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>>379775327
no, just base game and stormblood or a complete edition type thing
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>>379774354
>>379773849
Alright I'll just stay with it, thanks.
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>>379775327
I think you need only base game + Stormblood after 20th, but might be wrong
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>>379775039
>have a Padjali weapon for each class that I still use.

Only one I even bothered glamouring was the MCH one, which ironically is the only class I play like garbage, everything else I do fine with.
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>>379775327
HW comes with Stormblood.
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>>379773151
fuck that looks good
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First time playing, doing free trial. Im a level 14 lancer. What tips do you have for an newbie to ff14 but not mmos?
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What the fuck is my problem?
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>>379775217
Let me get in my time machine.
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>>379775327
You want this.
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>>379775481
Why is this?
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>>379772282
The games more fun when you get all the little fan service bits from other Final Fantasy games. It's pretty much a love letter to the series.
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>>379767789
At least change the pic when you post about your lala fetish
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>>379775127
>SAM gets a 1080 potency slash just because
>has to burn both a CD, all of their Sen and some of their kenki to achieve this potency
I mean I'm not defending Tornado Kick because it's shit, but c'mon.
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>>379775579
So, our characters have a british accent?
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>>379775617
Because beating HW is required for SB
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>>379774958
>monk
>fights by punching the fuck out of enemies, rushing in, swinging fists and kicks and beating them down in a rapid flurry of blows

>sam
>million folded blade slash
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What's the best mount in the game?
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>>379775710
Why do I have to pay for stormblood since I bought heavensward when it was released.

YOSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>379775729
Chocobo
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>>379775729
adamantoise
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>>379774761
>implying I don't also mean login queues
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>>379775729
Alisaie.
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>>379774484
>potd
>queue times
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>>379775610
Genuinely thought that silver circle at the bottom was "Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series."
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>>379775610
Didn't even reach HW content, but that guy with the judge attire looks fucking badass
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>>379775327
Actually you get access to Heavensward if you buy stormblood I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B57_41n9WN8

I know its mrhappy shit but he atleast gives you a rundown here.
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>>379774761
>healerbro
>not a healslut
uninstall to be perfectly honest
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>>379775370
I wonder if I'm the only one hating "midcore" as group description. Most of them lowest tier casual by WoW measures, rest are just casual. Sounds like a word to not call themselves casual and look bad, but still play like shitters and complain everywhere. For me, having less time to play is not excuse to be bad, but a reason to become better.
>>
>SAM has a dot stronger than every SMN dot combined

Really makes you think
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>>379775729
Twintania
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>>379775617
Because it's an old expansion now.
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>>379775729
magitek armor
Still use it just for theme
Why can't they make another mount theme on the same level?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFw3grUhKhw
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>>379775720

>It doesn't matter if my job is shit and completely unviable because muh aesthetics are cooler

Found the Balmung clicker.
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>>379768551
Tiny happy fellcleaves?
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>>379775617
To prevent the issue WoW had where players would have to buy multiple expansions to play the latest one if they came back from a long hiatus, before Bliz said "fuck it" around WoD and just made all prior expansions included with it.
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>>379769118

Infinity is the only one that gives a vibe of fighting a dangerous, imposing deity and it really fits with the aesthetics of the fight imo.

Fiend is nice overall. Equilibrium is great by itself but just doesn't get me hyped during the actual fight.

They're all good though.
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>>379775729
Tie between bomb chair and cloud
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>>379775941
But it requires build up to use. It's like if summoner had a mega dot that could only be replaced while demi-bahamut was out.
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>>379775687
They're from the same place as everybody else, so why wouldn't they?
>>379775729
Bomb chair.
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>>379775729
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>>379775824
>all the post-HW newbies who potioned their way to 60 will be asking 'lol whos dis faggot?' when he shows up in flashbacks
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>>379775729
Legacy Chocobo.
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>>379775941
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>>379775894
It's the main antagonist of StormBlood.
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>>379773098
I've been a male midlander ever since i started playing
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>>379775729
fat chocobo
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>>379776087
Sleipnir is top tier.
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>>379775729

Legacy Chocobo by a country mile
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Who is Haurchefart and why should I care?
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>>379776113
Why isn't it called Legacy Horsebird for shit.0 accuracy
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>>379776190
>we use cake to motivate it to fly

BEST MOUNT
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>>379776089
He won't
WoL will stop having ptsd and paranoia about drinking from cups served by strangers right after SB starts
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>>379774141
You dont
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>>379775610
>Free month sub
Thank fucking god, I thought Blizz had killed this practice for good with their dirty jew ways. Definitely getting into XIV now.
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hello where is moogle
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>>379776224
Your best friend who was in love with you and the only person who didn't see you as an attack dog to throw at every problem that came up.
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>>379776198
Still waiting for it to be able to fly.
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>>379775610
>Complete Edition
Oh, so this is the last expansion pack XIV will have?
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>>379776214
Why wasn't it just a barding for the chocobo you can actually have out?
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>>379776274
Don't forget there's a free trial up to level 35.
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>>379776393
Wasn't it announced as flyable in SB? Or am I thinking of the tank mounts?
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>>379775217
MCH>everything else
They are specifically making jobs easier to play
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>>379776274
use my friend code, bro

get some bonus items to help you level up, exclusive fist bump emote, etc ! >>379772752
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>>379776384
But i'm not gay.
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>>379776456
It was. They've been working on it being able to fly for months.
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>>379776254
>WoL developing a drinking problem to get over Haurchefant
I know it won't have because mute protagonist and that, but that might legitimately be interesting.
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>>379776525
Doesn't matter. He was.
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>>379776495
I guess if I can focus more on the battle and less on looking at my hotbars it's a plus.
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>>379776274

What >>379776448 Said you dont even need to buy anything untill you're 35 in a class so find something ya like and then pay up when you do.

Have a good adventure mate.
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>>379776402
no, complete edition was also available for the 3.0 days. it's called that because it is complete with all currently available content
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>>379775882
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>>379776525
Canonical wol is obviously female because all 3 your potential love interest were males
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>>379776224
Literally best bro in any game ever.
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>>379776448
it's up to level 20 iirc
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Just started playing. Can i switch jobs at any time?
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>>379776723
>Canonical wol is obviously futa
fix'd
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>>379776824
That was changed a long time ago.
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>>379776824
They updated it
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>>379776860
You have to do your level 10 class quest first, but after that point yes.
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Everyone's gay for Haurchefant.
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>>379776254
>the prince wants to cement your bond
>a servant brings in sake
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>>379776938
Garchefant
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>>379776956
I don't get it.
>>
What's the best 50 dungeon to spam to get to 51?
>>
>>379776723

Plus there's the whole "Women run Eorzea" thing.
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>>379777138
Do palace of the dead.
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>>379777234

No
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>>379777138
none of them, just do roulette and do the 2.x msq
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>>379777138
Pharos Sirius Hard because of the music
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Wait how does PotD teach you how a job works if everything dies in 2 hits
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>>379777186
>Merlwyb's first acts in office were to declare herself dictator and outlaw what the country was founded on
>Nanamo tries to run her country like a spoiled upper middle class white girl who thinks refugees are precious angels and jobs grow on trees and it's only Lolorito who keeps her from running Ul'dah into the fucking ground
>Kan-E is only a mouthpiece for the will of the Elementals
Oh yeah, they're excellent leaders.
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Will Thancred get over his emo phase and remember he was supposed to be the comic one?

Find out in the next episode of Dragonball Z!
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Curious if I'll still be able to be top dps as healer compared to the average DF DPS come 4.0. Probably not as SCH with the ludicrous Bane +DoT nerfs, but Gravity mashing as AST with their infinite MP will be viable.

Least I can give healers shit now for not throwing up DoTs with the stance removal.
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>>379777382
>how does PotD teach you how a job works
It doesn't
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>every bloody night
what did he mean by this
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How important is the world youre on? Are there dead worlds? Which is most popular?
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>>379777186
>Aymeric
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>>379777382
You know if you're unsure you can always just practice on a dummy or do dungeons.
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Do MSQ as a current lv.60 job or rush RDM/SAM to 60 and do it on those.
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komajiro is cute!
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>>379777134
WHM has to be healslut while SCH can heal and DPS at the same time.
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>>379777687
>Komajiro
>Not Komasan
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>>379776860
Why don't you retards ever google shit? Fuck even opening the menus tells you theres other jobs to level.
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>>379777580
Yeah but I'm not boosted to endgame levels for dummies
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>>379776418
should have played 1.0 (:
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>>379777785
That doesn't really make sense anymore though. The only thing scholars are good for is the crit boost.
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>>379776938
Literally /redditsguy/
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>>379777875
KOMAJIRO IS CUTE!!!
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Is Stormblood getting rid of the class system and just keeping the jobs, or what? How will unlocking classes work if you roll a new character?
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>>379764013
ASTfag here, I raged, I lost
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Have they announced new Egi Glamours yet? I'm still playing FFXI because I can't stand how retarded SMN looks in FFXIV.
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>>379778007
I did, I have the legacy chocobo, but I have no reason to use it and it would have been cooler to have it out on the field as a companion.

I miss path companions.
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>>379776723
Hydaelin turned titfillia into a meatpuppet because she was getting too chummy with her boy toy.
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>tfw you want to play Stormblood but you don't want to spend over $100 catching your account up
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>>379773098
I swear I've seen maybe 3 other fem highlanders tops since I started this game.
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Are minions from WT rare?
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>>379778278
Wow, you look awful.
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>>379777785
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>>379778167
No because your summon is now just filler for inbetween when you can call out bahamut
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>>379764013
Be happy that you could heal through 3 stacks on the 3 people on the first boss
As a whm I can't
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>>379778040
No anon, the radio said, you are the reddit.
And then anon was reddit.
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>>379773098
Highlander Man is the way to go
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I hope I can solo Aquapolis once 70.
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>>379778378

You can summon Bahamut now? What does he look like?
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>>379778329
Not really. They generally go from around 80-200k on my server.
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SMN should have just been Invoker and been entirely based around Bahamut from the ground up instead of this weird, half assed hodgepodge of what feels like three different jobs

Then maybe we could have had an actual SMN
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>>379778501
He looks exactly like Bahamut Prime, but about two character heights tall.
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>>379778545
SMN should have been given a buff that consumes your pet and gives you primal nukes.
They deserve as much.
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what realm should i play on?
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Here comes the whiny summoners again.
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>>379778278
>scar
>lipstick
>meme hair

kys yourself my man
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>>379778501
>>379778576

Don't get too excited now, he's just a cooldown that lasts for 10 seconds
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>>379777441
If he doesn't, I hope they just kill him off.
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>>379778501
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSdfPXFGuw0
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>>379777524
He means Tataru belongs on Balmung.
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>>379777441
Will he run around buck naked again?
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>>379778678
Whiny summoners is a bit redundant don't you think?
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>>379778659
https://ffxivcensus.com/
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>>379777524
Lala onahole
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>>379775729
Warbear
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>>379778371
This joke doesn't even work because arcanists aren't conjurers and scholar comes from arcanist, not conjurer.
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>>379778736
Scars are hot.
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>>379778480
Still iLvl capped to 150 unless they change that.
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>>379778278
They're pretty rare compared to cats and lizards, but they're still common enough that i would bump into 1 or 2 each play session.
One keeps bumping into me while i craft in limsa and does emotes to me every so often simply cause i'm fem highlander myself as well I'm sure.
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>>379778910
>balmung not highest
bullshit
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>>379766296
So what is going to be the new "warring triad" for Stormblood? I mean, I think it might be Ivalice mobs, but I can't think of any monsters from the Ivalice series that would fit as primals nor were there any memorable monsters to remember.
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>>379779052

As much as real time transports are essentially a time sink, they still made the world feel more tangible and grounded and I miss them
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>>379779207
Primals are unlikely to be ivalice based considering the 24-man is based around that.
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>tfw I don't tend to play new xpacs as soon as it starts
>tfw I like to wait for a while to do content because then I can get carried
Anyone else here play easy modo?
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>>379779207
Belias is already a confirmed elder primal, but it's probably going to be Genbu, Suzaku, Seiryu, and Byakko.
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>>379778957
You still need to level conjurer to level 15 to get scholar until stormblood
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>>379777579

Ishgard just rejoined the Alliance. It'll take time for a woman to show up and replace him so that she can ruin EVERYTHING.
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>>379779207
>>379779342
I was going to say the Weapons from VII but that seems more fitting for the Omega raid.
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AETHERFLOW TRI DISASTER, FESTER, RUIN, PAINFLARE, RUIN (4), ENERGY DRAIN, RUIN, DREADWYRM TRANCE, TRI DISASTER, RUIN 3 RUIN 3 RUIN 3 RUIN 4 DEATHFLARE, AETHERFLOW TRI DISASTER, FESTER, RUIN, PAINFLARE, RUIN (4), ENERGY DRAIN, SUMMON BAHAMUT, ENKINDLE BAHAMUT, RUIN, RUIN, RUIN, RUIN, RUIN, ENKINDLE BAHAMUT

REPEAT AD NAUSAEM
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>>379779207

Four dank fiends
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>>379779182
it has the highest active player count
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>that feel when missed Yokai Watch event

There is no way they are bringing back the event are they?
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>>379779438
How are those at all related to Omega?
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>Started to level BLM because I've left it alone since ARR
>So much fucking damage
>Big numbers everywhere
>Explosions
>My face

God damn it I don't have time to get it to 60 before SB
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>>379779613
the only thing related to omega is dimension hopping, so it could pretty much be anything.
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Never turn your back on a potato.
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>>379779445
>fester
>energy drain
Why? Fester got nerfed in SB and ED is a straight up potency loss. You're better off using Painflare. If anything, your opener in SB would be 2P 1F
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>>379777579
is the prettiest of all of them
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>>379779682
Fester didn't get nerfed, every single video shows it doing more damage than painflare. And the idea with that opener is to get into bahamut as quickly as possible, which means getting into dreadwyrm within the first 5~ seconds into the fight.
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>>379779682
I was just using them as an example of spending aetherflows
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>>379779680
Not the right picture.
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>>379779775
I'm almost 100% certain Fester's potency got nerfed to 200. Almost.
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>total of 6 healers on Shames in my last 2 Frontline games
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>>379779596
You can buy them all on mog station next year.
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>>379778576
>>379778748
>>379778793

I guess it's better than nothing...

I liked Summoner on FFXI because it was a pet job. Sadly it only became awesome at the end of the game, but it's a great feeling being able to command a huge powerful elemental beast to wreck shit.

I'm not sure if I would enjoy FFXIV.
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>>379779842
Both tooltips are wrong. As i said, every single video shows fester doing much more damage than painflare.
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>>379778678
>whiny summoners
Larryzaur?
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>>379775631
>fetish
Lalafells are pure! PURE!
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>>379779905
Hmm, I stand corrected then.
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>>379779953
Pure shit.
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>>379779953
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>>379779445
Where's your rouse, enkindles, shadow flares?
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>>379779631
>posting poppy in the ff14 thread
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>>379779873
>Buying anything Yokai Watch
Only the WHM and DRK weapons look nice from that collab but they got fucked in SB.
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>>379777579

>Dinner with Aymeric is interrupted right as my WoL is about to put the moves on him

Reeee
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>>379779953

Pure shit.
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>>379767789
>>379779953
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/aA20Zpeh90pDMf8WqhkkKA/

Get help.
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>>379780047
I wasn't including any oGCD that weren't demonstrated to get the dreadywrm trance stuff. Just showing how basic SMN is now.
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>>379780047
Shadow Flare is offGCD. Rouse/Spur/Enkindle are gone in 4.0.
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>>379772090
The thoughts are the tooltips from the media tour are outdated because the gameplay footage int he montage appears to be 100%.
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>>379780047
not to mention the new contagion. I always forget the new. Still need to use wind blade on cooldown
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>>379780141
>not buying komasan and komajiro and usapon
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>>379780221
>Rouse/Spur/Enkindle are gone in 4.0.
No they aren't.
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>>379779953
Pure slut
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>>379780234
Komasan is the WHM weapon.
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>>379780310
I didn't say the weapons
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>>379779858
Whats the problem? 6 healers is a good amount.
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>>379772932
Tales from the duty-finder: Aether Sprouts Edition

>Aurum Vale
>3 new players who all seem to be friends chatting as we zone in
>sit through the cutscene in what feels like an eternity
>be leveling DRG
>tank is a PLD, healer is a WHM, other DPS is a BRD
>nobody buffs or anything they just run in and start fighting
>Tank pulls frog and the kedtrap things
>no shield oath or sword oath
>no flash
>tank 2 of the mobs off the healer while the BRD tanks one and the PLD tanks one
>Explain how to use Flash and Shield oath, tank listens to me to my surprise
>proceed to clear the entire room of trash and get the chest in the corner
>first boss
>explain how the fruits and debuff work
>everyone says ok, tank pulls. Holds threat fine now that they use their abilities
>Healer dies to gold dust
>BRD dies standing in the slime pool
>Tank dies
>I die
>Recap on the mechanics, explain that slime pool hurts
>Try again
>Wipe because the tank isn't eating fruit
>at this point I was literally weeping in my chair in agony, torn between wanting to just up and leave versus trying to help teach some newer players the ropes, ensuring nobody has to suffer this ever again
>Kill the first boss on the third attempt
>progress is slow, steady, but nobody is dying to pools of water. Make sure to gank morbol seeds
>Second boss Coincounter
>Explain mechanics
>BRD dies like 3 times, tank dies at the very end of the fight to a swipe/swing whatever it is
>Wipe on the trash after Coincounter
>last boss
>explain the fight
>tank dies a couple times but we recover and 1 shot the boss (SLOPPY af)
They apologized for being terrible, thanked me for my patience and I got 2 comms out of it
I dunno if it was worth it, honestly, that was the longest I'd ever spent in a dungeon in this game and it was like pulling teeth right up to the end but something in the back of my mind forced me to keep my composure (in game at least) and help the nubs.
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>>379780208
The reason they keep posting is because retards like you keep giving them (You)s. Stop giving them what they want.
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