What went so horribly wrong?

>>379757958
The fanbase

>>379757958
Nothing other than being a bit rushed towards the end, it's one of the best FFs yet.

not much its decent

>Having an incomplete, terrible story that could only fully be understood by buying a fucking movie sold seperately from game
>Not challenging or fun combat unless you take the time to do the secret dungeons. Even then, you can only really die if you're a retard because the game throws healing items at you constantly.
>Shit second half of the game with linear narrative and ruining the exploration aspect of the first half of the game which was one of the few interesting things it had.

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>>379757958
Nothing. Fastest selling FF worldwide ever, highest selling FF launch in the US ever, more GOTY awards than any other FF, GOTY from the gooch himself.

>>379758354
The story was great and it's not incomplete, just because side story stuff and different POV is shown in the movie means nothing, anything important from the movie is learned in the game.
It is fun and there is plenty of challenge.
There is nothing wrong with the second half other than it being a bit rushed.

>>379758738
What about them gutting segments from the game to sell as DLC, not even Ubisoft does that.

>>379757958
The only fags like you that don't like the game are nomura fanboys that enjoy vapourware

>>379758406
>Nothing
So you're saying it's perfect no flaws?

>giving it to a director who literally has only ever made handheld and phone games

>>379757958

Literally the worst combat of the FF series

>>379758406
>more GOTY awards than any other FF, GOTY from the gooch himself.
That's a bunch of red flag right there.

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>>379759720
This.

>>379757958
They felt forced to make it open world

>>379758406
because it went mainstream and appealed to the normies

>>379758406
I guess Bioshock Infinite is the best game ever then

How is the actual open world aspect of the game? I like open world stuff. Is it actually an open world or is it just like FFX or FFXIII where you have areas that pretend to be open sometimes but really are just large rooms in disguise.

>>379757958
Not enough Cindy porn.

>>379760768
It's a gas station and frog collecting simulator, if you like going to gas stations and collecting frogs then XV was pretty much made for you.

>>379757958
Your life. Game was great.

>>379757958
The baffling decision to put put 50% of the story in side shit.

>>379757958
You keep making these threads trying to pretend it's bad.

>>379761786
>pretend it's bad.
>pretend
We've all played it, there is no pretending.

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>>379757958
Tabata. He was visionless. And on top of being visionless, he was spiteful towards what came before him. His sorry excuse for leadership led them to not only scrap everything from the first 7 years of production, but he also continually scrapped what his own team created based solely on insecurities and shallow fan feedback, without offering anything in return.

>>379757958
I wonder who could be behind this post.

>>379758406
Nice, glad it did well.

>>379757958
Game is straight up incomplete. Pacing is terrible, the characters and locations don't get the time to be fleshed out, the main heroine is barely a person and more of a plot device whose developments occur through flashbacks, the second half is an absolute disaster (it makes Xenogears disc 2 look like a masterpiece) and the game rushes to its ending and final confrontation at breakneck speed since it had no time to connect properly.

Basically, the direction was absolutely garbage. The failure falls on the SE upper staff for not being able to cohesively plot a course and stick to it during the what, decade or so of its development? Besides the graphics, which are above average for a ps4 game, the game pretty much has nothing exceptional or memorable about it.

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>>379758406
Based

>>379758406
>Fastest selling FF worldwide ever
Nigga, it is the first FF ever to made a world wide release. You guys really dump enough to fall for this shitty trick?

Too much of a sausage party

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>>379760768
mainly gas stations, one large gas station, and only one town you can access via car. The only other town you have to fast travel to.

For a game that was in development in some aspect for 10 years, the final product was mediocre.

I know SE is applying fixes but some of these "fixes" should of been in from day 1.

Like Ardyn betraying the empire, the emperor turning into a demon, and allowing you to run in Chapter 13.

>>379760439
This rebuttal never made any sense. It doesnt even makes sense in this context.

>>379758863
But they didn't gut segments to put as DLC because the DLC stuff all takes place during parts of the game when the character is separated from Noctis and you are playing as Noctis while their episode happens.

When Gladio is off fighting Gilgamesh, you as Noctis are going through Steyliff ruins with Aranea, and then you meet up with Gladio in Lestallum.

When Prompto falls of the train going through the snow in Niflheim, you as Noctis are heading to Tenebrae on the train and meet up with him in Gralea.

When Ignis goes blind, you as Noctis are fighting Leviathan in Altissia and then Noctis falls unconscious, when he wakes up that is when he and the player first learn Ignis went blind.

There is physically no possible way for the DLC episodes to have been "cut content" when they all take place during parts of the game where you are doing stuff as Noctis.

>>379757958
Development hell.
That's really all. Fucked up direction, timing, teams, deadlines and expectations
>>379763083
Got to make damage control anon.

>>379759720
It's the only FF with real combat.

>>379763394
But how can combat be real if your hands aren't real

>>379763394
>real combat
>Hold button to attack
No FF has real combat

>>379758406
>>379758738
Today in this new episode of "guess who posted that ?" ............

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>>379760025
Why are you posting how a retard plays when regular XV when not played by a retard isn't like that, because regular basic combat is like this which is great.

>>379763504
Lightning Returns was good.

>>379759720
It's not as bad as 13's combat.

>>379759720
Actually it's probably got the best.

>>379759810
>high praise is bad now

>>379760768
It's well done, the world feels like that of a classic FF world map but realized in a more 1:1 scale with more stuff to do on it.

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>>379763648
>regular combat
>great
HEY DUMMY HIT THE BUTTON

>>379757958
It's a lot better than 13. If anything it's a step in the right direction

>>379763790
>Stuff to do
>More gas stations than there are towns or cars on the rode

>>379759720
XIII and 2 have the worst combat.

>>379761860
See what I mean? Trying too hard.

>>379762295
You want visionless then look at Nomura, he literally wanted to turn XV into a musical on a whim because he saw Les Miserables, he also barely got anything done so it's not like there was much to even "scrap". Most of the concepts, core themes and stuff from Versus is still in XV regarldess. And a dev who actually listens to fan feedback to improve the game is a good thing, he actually listens unlike Nomura.

>>379757958
They changed it too much from Duscae which was actually pretty fun.
>Noctis is now a smirking, eyebrow-raising Marvel character
>Open world is barren
>Abilities- i.e. actual gameplay mechanics to make the game more fun for the player- have been given to friends. Remember that cool sweep attack that felt so good in Duscae? Now you get to remove yourself entirely from the combat and watch someone else do it

I didn't think it would turn out to be THIS bad.

>>379764096
XIII was the only game that did something interesting with ATB by putting it into bars you could do cool stuff like refresh the bar, cancel it to prolong a launch state on an enemy. It was also the only FF game to make buffs and debuffs worthwhile.
You're an absolute moron if you think XV's combat is better.

>>379763083
What the fuck does that have to do with anything when no other FF sold 6 million in the span of time XV hit 6 million, even accounting for the spread out releases of the older titles?

FF13 came out in Dec 2009 in Japan and March 2010 in the west, and it didn't even sell 6m until 2011.

FFXV sold 6m within a few months.

>>379763307
>Facts are damage control
No, you're on damage control if you think that is damage control

>>379763394
This. Holy fuck this.

>>379763910
It's just a step in another direction. I wouldn't call it a step in the right direction.

I don't want unfinished, short, underwhelming Final Fantasies.

>>379764372
Can't be on damage control XV-kun, I'm on life.

>>379757958
haste and greed

>>379764096
Incorrect.

>>379763697
>high praise is bad now
When it came from minority, Gooch and Yoshida? Yes, it is, and with SE went full swing with damage control around that time, it actually tells you how it really perform.

>>379757958
The retarded, generic, dull, cheap soundtrack

>>379757958
The shit combat and pointless auto driving everywhere.

>>379763504
And tapping O to attack and do manual finishers, and moving L stick while tapping O to do directional inputs, and tapping square to dodge roll which can cancel animations, and using shields and tapping square to block attacks and stagger enemies, and tapping to X jump, then tapping O while in the air to do aerial combos, and tapping to D pad directions weapon switch on the fly mid combo,and tapping triangle to warp, and tapping R1+ triangle to warpstrike, all while moving around in real time reacting to enemies attacking you in real time.

Meanwhile
>press button to confirm input is what you do in every other FF 100% of any battle.

>>379764372
>XV hit 6 million
Ship

>>379764865
Sounds like the storm series. Whole load of fluff.
ARPGs were a mistake, go full action or go home.

>>379763394

You can't be serious.

>>379763678
>>379764096

Oh nevermind, you're all literally retarded

Felt like an offline MMO

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>>379764774
What went wrong?

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>>379764865
>if I make it verbose, it might seem like there's depth!!!!

>>379765129
Not him but XV is the best ARPG since Bloodborne.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtqYElpLr2s

>>379764865
>in this episode: dudebro gamer complains that the final fantasies that aren't action-oriented for his casual needs are too difficult and complex

>>379763648
he's posting how an average player plays FFXV

also your webm is just holding down the attack button

>>379764865
>all while moving around in real time reacting to enemies attacking you in real time.
except you still get hit when moving around and the moment you decide to press the attack button, you are committed to it

>>379765078
Yes, it was mediocre, just random chorus with no actual order

>>379763910
I disagree, and this is coming from someone who didn't like XIII.

I fully expected XV to learn from the narrative and directorial mistakes of XIII. XIII's linearity alone wasn't the problem, it was that the linearity wasn't filled with anything but battles and cutscenes, with very little in the way of world and character building that wasn't crammed into the codex. It just barrelled relentlessly to the end, threw a lazy open ended segment in the latter stages of the game (and Pulse's side hunts were mediocre at best), and went back to being linear for the finish.

XV was EVEN WORSE. Like holy shit, I didn't think they could actually do worse but they really did. Important, game relevant story info that's not in the game itself, the open ended begin clashes with the linear and terrible second half, no one is developed properly past their initial selves besides maybe Noctis (and that's a stretch).

>>379760768
Anyone meme posting "durr gas stations" is bullshitting, there's only a few and they serve the same purpose as a small settlement with an inn and an item store like in older FF.

>>379765129
Literally the arguement about it, list off as many shit as you can as to make it deep.
Like an alchemy system in RPGs are supposed to add so much yet you end up negleting it completely because it has no good purpose or necessity in gameplay.

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>>379758406
How to make +6 million shipments on your latest Main-Line Final Fantasy game [TABATA EDITION]:

>know your audience: the west
>the game you are working on must already have half a decade's worth of hype surrounding it (in some cases 10 years of marketing)
>release a fucking god-tier concept trailer like the FFXV E3 2013 trailer and parade it around for a long time like it's actually going to be in the main game
>release tons of trailers with cut footage that imply exciting concepts, only for them to never make it into the actual game
>host tons of useless ATRs to keep consumer interest
>host an Uncovered Event and make a big deal out of it, pulling back the curtains on a almost ten year old project only for it to be rendered useless with an eventual delay
>delay your game further into the holiday season; generate controversy
>coincide the release of your game with a movie, anime, and mobile games
>star popular Western Actors in your movie; generate discussion
>engage in tons of cross-overs that appeal to the western audience, like hanging out with Epic Meal Time
>Make sure to demo your game at the Xbox E3 conference showing one of the only eventful setpieces in your game—and then fuck it up to generate controversy
>last but not least, release a HYPE AS FUCK trailer, one month out from launching the game, using concepts and imagery from the Versus days—make sure to deceive the fans and that none of it is ever even brought up in the game

>>379765461
>there's only a few
There are more gas stations than cars on the road, how the fuck do all the gas stations stay in business anyways?

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>this triggers the Barry

inb4 he posts his pathetic attempt at making his own '06 comparison because he was so assblasted by pic related

>>379765485
>people eat it up and will continue to
Fuck it man, I like Tabata now, making the best of a shitty situation he was forced into and put himself into and getting away with it at the same time.

>>379765293
Fuck off with that video already, i don't even dislike the combat, but the vid proves nothing. All the guy does is hold attack and move the stick in random directions so airstep activates, advanced combat my ass.

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>>379765675
Just what did Tabata mean by this?

Why is he up so early on a Sunday?

>>379765873
>implying he ever went to bed
He was in two 500+ posts theads before this one

>>379765941
what a trooper

Are there any substantial side quests/hidden shit to do in XV?
Is it at all possible to just wander across an area which has a secret boss in it? Or has it ALL been homogenised into side quests?

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>>379763791
What is this supposed to show me other than whoever recorded that didn't know they could completely avoid that by dodging or blocking the enemy, and only like 5 enemies in the whoel game do stuff like that. Meanwhile shit like this is forced on you in KH, which you always are in the mindset to defend KH and Nomura whenever you post that webm in your desperate attempts to shitpost against XV. Also why are you ignoring that FF7, FF8, FF9, FF10 and FF13-2 all have QTEs in them?

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>>379757958
Ita quite possibly the best FF, but that triggers people like you.

>>379766036
The Deadeye quest is the only good one, the rest are Korean MMO fetch quest tier. I've never played a game with worse side quests than FFXV and I've played DA:I.

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I actually liked it alot, played for 115hrs, did pretty much complete the game 100% and hyped for Prompto and Ignis DLC.

I really hated the first 10-15 hrs of the game, but I feel like the more you play the better it gets. It really pisses me off how lazy and unpolished it feels though, it had so much potential that got wasted on an unfinished game, for everything they got right, there are 2 things that they screwed up.

I wish they made a direct sequel building up and improving over what they have, kind of like what happened with the XIII trilogy.

>>379763910
True.

>people are actually defending the combat in XIII

What kind of parallel world have I stumbled into? Are people going to defend hallways next?

>>379757958
is the combat fun if you practice it or maybe later in the game? Just felt like a grabass.

>>379765485
>host an Uncovered Event and make a big deal out of it, pulling back the curtains on a almost ten year old project only for it to be rendered useless with an eventual delay

Come to think of it, is this...like one of the most marketing blunder SE ever pull, huh?

>>379766294

It at least could be challenging, unlike the mindless tripe in XV.

>>379766067
>bring up KH out of the blue

it was never mentioned in this thread

>>379766036
not really. The only real hidden thing is Pitoss but it's completely optional (like not even required for Platinum optional) and you need to fly that mess known as the flying Car to do it.

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>>379766067
It's forced on you in XV too

>>379764871
It's actually confirmed 6 million sales, not just shipped.

>>379766137
`What "triggers" me is most xv fanboys that live in a world where only 10/10 perfect or 0/10 horrible shit exists. As soon as someone brings up a few criticisms and says they didn't really like eerything the gamehas to offer they would love to cut their throats and call them samefags or dumb usernames.Even your post is already saying to much. Can't you people just say that you like it think it's the best FF without starting some dumb shitpost bait

>>379757958
everything.

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>>379764871
6m Sold. Stay in denial.

>>379765129
I explained those in the most simplest way of what each thing does.

>>379766512
Is there a worse boss fight in a JRPG than the Leviathan fight?

https://youtu.be/76J_ct6_oNA


Never forget.

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>>379766067
>>379766658


>forces QTEs into your final battle

>>379766384
>is the combat fun if you practice it or maybe later in the game?

nope. The same actions you do at the stat is the same stuff you do at the end with the addition of the Royal Arms Limit Break which is L1+R1 to use it and then it's back to holding the attack button

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>>379765485
doing something like might sell your game, but it hurts your brand

this is something a hotshot CEO would pull to bring up his numbers before he jumps ship

>>379764774
Post invalidated. The OST is easily the best FF OST by far.

>>379765078
>>379765426
What the fuck is this supposed to prove exactly? Easily has the best battle themes, character themes, main themes and story themes.

>>379757958
I enjoyed many aspects of it.

I would have preferred if they actually told a story.

>>379766715
to be fair on that one, it's the finishing blow.

Shitposters were claiming it's the entire fight

and I honestly thought Ifirit was the final boss because of the trophy you get for beating Ifrit on normal difficulty

>>379765304
No """""he""""" isn't, he's reposting some retard playing like shit, meanwhile in teh clip I posted it's tapping to attack, you can literally see a manual finisher in the middle of the combo which can only be done by tapping, so you're objectively wrong.

>He doesn't know about Impervious for hit recoveries
>He doesn't know that blink lets you cancel animations through dodge.

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>>379766794
>The OST is easily the best FF OST by far.

>>379766794
>Only FF game where party members don't each have their own respective theme that gets rearranged in parts of the story later on
>Best FF OST

>>379767008
It's all the same shit.

I played XV, I know how the combat is done

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>>379766715
is it really just pushing the O button? holy fuck

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>>379757958
It was fated to be trash the moment they decided to go with the current trend and make it open world.

1st half of the game is a boring as shit open world where there's nothing to do besides drive somewhere, GET A FUCKING VEGETABLE, and drive it back.

combat is fun when the camera isn't getting in the way (so, like, almost never fun).

2nd half of the game is an absolute mess. the story is hacked to death and makes almost no sense. it's like they threw away 80% of the game.

chapter 11 is fucking stupid as hell. gameplay wise it's just boring. graphics wise it's dull and uninteresting. plot wise it's unfulfilling because there's no context to anything.

the only good thing was that the 4 main characters were surprisingly likable. everything else about this game was shit, and i'm pretty disappointed because i could actually see the potential for a pretty great FF game if they didn't just throw away everything and try to hack something together at the last minute.

>>379767202
it's pressing the attack button.

For me it was R2 because the O button was not meant to be held down for long segments while R2 was.

I enjoyed it a little, but it's not a well made game by any means. Seems the only thing they got right were monster designs.

>>379765450
No, XV is a million times better because at least any story details necessary to understand the story are learned through the games story, and any sort of text exist as physical things you can find and read in the game in digestible format and all the characers development, even side characters like Talcott and Aranea have more development than FF13 main characters

Meanwhile 13 doesn't explain shit and is just a clusterfuck of retarded jargon that loses any meaning, and no ones motivations make any sense, none of the characters are likable or development. And then it tries to force a bunch of the shit you didn't care about to begin with into a datalog.

The open world blending into the linear section actually makes sense for the story because things have ramped up, meanwhile it makes no sense for why 13 is a linear corridor for 12 of the 13 chapters and an empty flat grass plain for 1.

>>379766294
It was rough around the edges but was very interesting and had some strategic depth to it. It's only sin is that the games takes too long to fully introduce all the mechanics.

As for hallways previous FF games were pretty linear, especially FFX and only really open up late.

>>379767532
>No, XV is a million times better because at least any story details necessary to understand the story are learned through the games story

Some of which is DLC or was added in patches

>>379767574
>It's only sin is that the games takes too long to fully introduce all the mechanics.
the only real mechanics after the opening it introduces are the magic grenades and the royal arm limit break

>>379766651
>>379766524
http://www.jp.square-enix.com/company/ja/news/2017/html/4f4f5b4f08ba92901c8ae15e46e3570a.html

Square Enix announced on Tuesday that its Final Fantasy XV PlayStation 4 and Xbox One game has sold more than 6 million copies worldwide. The number includes physical shipments and download sales.

Check the sources, you mongoloid.

>>379767532
>XV side characters
>Developed
When the game tried to make me feel bad about Jared I had to ask myself who the fuck Jared was at first. No character outside of the main cast got any development.

I had a stronger emotional attachment to the Regalia than 90% of XV's characters.

>>379765485
>So desperate he's repasting this copy pasta now because he's so butthurt that XV was fantastic and mad that Nomura was kicked off

It's actually a really enjoyable fucking game up until the last 6 hours and I can try to forgive that because I'm not a manchild.
How's episode gladio?

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>>379765675
This triggers the KHfag. Inb4 you go on full damage control because your shitpost was BTFO. Nevermind that Luna holding Noctis happens after the fight and the fight themselves aren't even the same. You're already invalidated.

>>379767949
>How's episode gladio?
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/final-fantasy-xv-episode-gladiolus

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>There are people who still don't think XV has the best FF story

>>379767783
>i had a stronger attachment to the regalia
>implying the regalia wasn't the fifth member of your band
Shit nigger you were supposed to they even gave her a parting cutscene

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>>379765837
He meant that you're a lying fuck, Nomurafag.

>>379765837
>>379765675
Samefagging again huh?

>>379768079
kek the score the game should've actually gotten

>>379757958
WoFF literally blew it out of the water

>>379757958
Nothing really. It's one of the finest Action RPGs ever made. Hope it gets a sequel some day.

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I'll tell you what went wrong.

>>379768003
>Ride robot to ram into something (AKA more gameplay involved) vs regular jumping and a QTE involving cutting head or whacking an urn by mashing triangle
Already fucked up the comparison from the get go.

>>379768165
So sonic06 copied kh2 and xv copied sonic 06
wow, it should have copied kh2. At least then xv might've been a good game

>people still unironically respond to XV-kun

>>379768479
Well, it's fun, anon.

>>379768384
Literally and actually this. You can even tell in the game the exact moment it changed hands.

>>379766036
Yes, plenty of dungeons are like that where you can stumble into it and find a strong boss. Like the mining dungeon at the very start in the starting area of the game you can stumble into is full of level 7 goblins, but then on one of the floors is a level 54 samurai zombie.

Or even a bit further up you can find a sewer dungeon in the opening area full of level 35-45 monsters with some stronger bosses in it like the Nagarani and the dragon snake at the end.

>>379768335
>It's one of the finest Action RPGs ever made.
How can you say that when games like Bloodborne and Witcher 3 have been released in the past years? Both of those games utterly decimate XV at every level other than art direction.

>>379768609
>Witcher 3
no

>>379766457
No, that guy trying to shit on XV with his webms is a KH fag.

>>379766512
Not in regular combat it isn't no, only a few bosses in the whole game even have it. Meanwhile they are forced on you in every single fight in KH2.

>>379768479
Only reason these threads are alive.
If no one humored threads or his replies or just went to /vg/ to discuss/shitpost, he would dry up like a salted well

>>379768479
It's funny to watch him make a fool out of himself. Last thread he tried to use himself as his own source in an argument, hilarious shit

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>>379768096
as much as I disliked FFXV, that was one of the better parts of the trainwreck known as the "last part of FFXV"

I gave zero fucks about the Noctis/Stella crap in the afterlife because the game hardly offered enough time for me to give a fuck about Stella.

THIS STELLA'S DEATH WAS MORE EMOTIONAL

>>379768757
Refer to >>379763791

>>379768739
i think the witcher is overrated trash but you need to rethink your life

>>379767532
>Meanwhile 13 doesn't explain shit and is just a clusterfuck of retarded jargon that loses any meaning

Do your homework and read the datalogs retard. The jargon and important concepts aren't even that complicated to understand and it makes alot of sense for characters living in that world to be familiar with them.

Would you really prefer to have dialogue like
>"Hey Snow, the man who is going to marry my sister Serah, this fal'cie which is a divine like creature tasked with protecting humans wants us l'cie, aka normal people tasked by divine like creatures, to destroy cocoon, which as everybody knows, is an artificial world created by super fal'cies for us after a great war that, as you already know, happened 500 years ago?"

>>379768778
You mean Luna right? Granted they pretty much ended up in both being wasted potential.
>the bros you bonded to hit harder
>the fucking car hits you harder
Rip Regalia.

>>379766384
Yes, it's great especially once you unlock the ascension abilities and more proper use of stuff like shields and weapon switching between your combos and ascension stuff.

>>379766294
XIII kiddies are the ones who were the most triggered over FFXV, and XIII kiddies are also almost all KH kiddies so that's why you see them try to gang up against XV.

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>>379768609
Catch up on some reading comprehension illiterate nigger. I said it's ONE of the finest ARPGs. Not the best. FFXV is right up there with Bloodborne and The Witcher 3. Which are two of my favorite games also.

>>379768096
How can something with the worst pacing and most loose ends be the best? I seriously think we are getting XV-2 with how little closure we got.

>>379768573
usually you are lead to those by something else.

The mines have the mark of a royal tomb on the map and Cidney lead me to the sewers for a nice car upgrade

>>379768757
>No, that guy trying to shit on XV with his webms is a KH fag.
where's the proof?

>>379768986
>XIII kiddies are also almost all KH kiddies
You fuck up, XV-kun.

>>379769003
>Which are two of my favorite games also.
Damn what a casual.

>>379769003
>FFXV is right up there with Bloodborne and The Witcher 3.
It's not though, which was my point.

>>379767725
Maybe you might want to check your sources

See>>379766651

The financial report is from May 11, 2017 stating FFXV has 6 million SALES. The site you linked to is from January 10th, 2017 back when XV had only jsut shipped 6 million

Are you braindead or are you really that stupid to not understand that May 11th is after January 10th?

>>379769003
holy fuck play more games you Gen8 baby

>>379766715
So you mean like KH2?

Also how is that any different in principal than X to omnislash?

>>379767202
What's the problem?

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>XV had good boss figh--

>>379769228
It's the same 6m unit sales which included shipment+digital but for them it is a sales, got it?

>>379768985
yeah, Luna.

>>379763648
that's nothing special
why are you criticizing the way most players are going to play the game when nothing really fixes the combat besides animation exploits and Ascension skills as a band-aid ontop of a gaping wound

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>>379767186
Seriously what are you trying to prove by showing these things against the few enemies that have them that you can completely avoid just by dodging or blocking?

>>379769349
Because one has action based combat and the other is menu based? Are you retarded?

>>379766561
You're the one getting triggered over opinions.

>>379769349
"real combat" shouldn't have this scripted shit from 1997 then anon.

>>379768956
it's the same tier of trash as ffxv

>>379769190
>>379769191
>>379769259

>New games are inherently bad

Contrarian /v/ in a nutshell. Wanna know another of my fav games? Castevania: SOTN.

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It's ok when VIII does it!

>>379765485
DESTROYED XV KUN

>>379769662
The irony

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>>379769728
>"oh shit they're onto the fact that I'm a literal underage squeeker!!!"
>"C-castlevania SOTN i-is my favorite game, II-I swear!!!!"

>>379767123
Bros on the road has 3 different versions of the track the plays in different parts of the story and is the theme of the bros. Noctis's theme, Luna's theme, Dawn aka Regis's theme, Ardyn's theme and Cosmogony aka Gentiana's theme also have mutiple arrangements that play multiple times in the story. And each of the bros DLC episodes is getting a new theme composed by different guest composers for each of their episodes, with Okabe doing Gladio and Mizuta doing Prompto.

>>379757958
Entirely uninspired combat slogging though a story with so many holes. The main group of the cast was good and the feeling of roadtripping with the bros was genuine but everything else was flat or forced.

>>379767153
I doubt that

>>379769778
But VIII's a black sheep.
And that's then not even the worst thing in the game. Lot worse.

>>379757958
>It's another summerfag thread that hardly does anything than to baiting for XV-kun's response.
Both of you retards should really fuck off from this board and contain your autism in your precious Neogaf.

>>379769778
Considering how mixed 8's reception, this example doesn't work

>>379769963
>Mizuta doing Prompto.
As in Naoshi Mizuta?

>>379769946
Take a good hard look in the mirror kiddo.

>>379770171
Not him but you're actually retarded if you're putting games like Symphony of the Night, Witcher 3 and Bloodborne on the same level as Final Fantasy XV.

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Are the four even real bros?

>Gladio is a glorified bodyguard that constantly trashtalks and belittles the party
>Ignis works for the crown and is just doing his job on an official mission for the kingdom
>Promto is only there because it's the only friend autistic prince has and whole party hates his guts
>Noctis is an autistic poor bastard that would rather play video games but has to drag people that would rather be somewhere else with him for bullshit reasons

>>379770020
it's not like you would believe any proof I post.

The combat in XV was slow and monotonous and against the really big guys in the optional areas, it turned into an item spam fest due to them hitting you with ailments and you never expected them.

Like Costlemark, 3 hours of pure hell and I don't even think the Royal Arm provided good stat buffs (refused to use them due to HP drain)

>>379769778
I'd argue that games should evolve over 20 years, but then you'd probably bring a stupid argument like " it was a nod to old games guys"

>>379758223
The only issue i have is lack of exposition same issue i had with MGSV

>>379770425
>The combat in XV was slow and monotonous and against the really big guys in the optional areas, it turned into an item spam fest due to them hitting you with ailments and you never expected them.
It's not just that, it's a clusterfuck, especially your Costlemark example. Three Red Giants, a Naga and ten Flans? You're either being flung across the room and spamming curatives, afflicted with aliments, spamming magic/armiger/techniques, or warp striking everything over and over.

And don't get me started on the Adamantoise and Nafagir fights.

>>379767694
>Some of which is DLC or was added in patches
Gladio's DLC episode has no new information pertaining to the main story because it has nothing to do with the main story.

The ch13v2 patch also doesn't have any new story in it, it just shows something that people already knew happened in the game.

Any of the new story stuff they are adding also aren't necessary to understand the story, they are just bonus additional stuff.

>>379767783
See the fact that you even have to cling to Jared, a one off character that his death wasn't supposed to make you sad, it was to show you that they're still in some shit.

Who the fuck is even any character from FF13? Talcott had more development in FF13 than Lightning did for fucks sake. The Regalia had more character development than FF 13 characters did. Jesus christ you FF13 drones are absolutely braindead.

>>379768964
Oh believe me I read that shit, and it's still a clusterfuck of autism cancer incarnate. No one said it's complicated, just fucking retarded, stupid and contrived in every way possible.

>>379770594
no he literally says "not an argument" when that argument is brought up. He's been challenged on that fact before.

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Man the game is fun but everytime it's on /v/ all I see is falseflagging and sameposting. Why can't people just have fun and have a positive opinion on the game guys. Why does /v/ try to force the opinion that every game is bad. What is the enjoyment from this. I'm just so confused and a little fed up. It's because I'm ignorant to that side of view. I want to know how it feels like to hate a video game but I've never been this dedicated to shitting on a game before. Help me /v/

>>379768853
Refer to >>379766067

>>379770696
>And don't get me started on the Adamantoise
that was literally an hour and a half of hitting a giant ass pinata and I ate the "Always land a critical hit" food before the fight

>Nafagir
don't recall that guy

>>379760932
You are a moron their is 3 quests in the whole game about collecting frogs and they are side quests

>>379770789
A large part of it is because XV-kun and falseflaggers make anyone who actually has good reasons to like the game look bad and ruin all discussion, reasonable or unreasonable.

>>379770789
>just have a positive opinion bro on a game that was frustratingly bad

You know not everyone has low standards? You know everyone who criticizes it has played the game right?

>>379770704
>The Regalia had more character development than FF 15 characters did. Jesus christ you FF15 drones are absolutely braindead.
So much this.

>>379768479
>KH fags still try to defend Nomura and shit on XV after getting BTFO

>>379770986
Context clues Anon. He didn't say everyone should have the same opinion. He's saying why can't people have a positive opinion without shitflinging.

>>379770789
Do you not see the autist sperging out about negative opinions of anysort anon? On every fucking thread? Threads would be less active or civil if this didn't become a goading game.
The inital month release shitposts could be attributed to "this is common and would fade away". Hell the problem of the 10 year hype could end up in the schism as well with people having the extremes of "i like it" or "I don't". And you know why /v/'s like this, why ask?

>>379768479
It's funny to watch the people get fail to counter him desu. Watching these threads for months and people always just seem to think if they say " hey look it's XV-kun", then they win.

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>only directed 3 shit psp games, 2 of which are irredeemable garbage
>removed switchable characters to sell as DLC because it was "too hard"
>turned KH combat into hold X to win combat because it was "too hard"
>turned well animated monsters with readable attack patterns into poorly animated monsters with bad AI and glitchy hitboxes because he's a retard

>>379770916
>don't recall that guy
The final fight of the Randolph sidequests. I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't even find him, he appears post-game in the backalleys of Lestallum and gives you a few quests to kill super-monsters for rare weapons. I'm probably mispelling Nafagir, i'm terrible with remembering names well, but it appears at night in an imperial base and my level 85 party was getting one-shotted by its special attacks over and over.

It's like throwing my face into a brick wall while spamming elixers and seeing which folds first.

>>379770789
What if my opinion is that it's mediocre? The first few chapter were fine while they lasted, but the combat gets repetitive and imo the only good things are the mosnter designs except for Bahamut and half the OST. But usually that's enough the have hateposts from fanboys thrown at me, with their "objective" opinions.

>>379770789
FF XV is a big deal, game has been in developement for over a decade and there was lot of hype for Versus XIII, it was supposed to be the game that will save Final Fantasy and it failed. There's shit load to argue and talk about.

>>379771210
>only directed 3 shit psp games, 2 of which are irredeemable garbage
I thought they were all unredeemable garbage, which one wasn't?

FFXV-KUN!

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>>379770704
Why do you act like main-story, character building (including side characters), and seeing things take place aren't equally important in a game?

You know XV would have been infinitely better if it had these things, right? You kno there wouldn't have been backlash,, proving that that """"stylistic choice"""" didn't pay off right?

>>379769003
This guy knows what's up.

>>379771212
>The final fight of the Randolph sidequests.
oh, I did some of those to kill time for the last trophy (hit survival level 10) and the moment I got that trophy and the Platinum I saved. Quit. and deleted FFXV off my PS4

>>379771205
I dunno man, if the opposing arguement is saying "not an arguement" or "hey falseflag of the week, fuck off", then there's no one winning anyway

>>379768479
Well, otherwise these threads would die after like 40 posts. We had a pretty good FF thread with 500 posts without him and a pretty good XV thread with around 50 posts without him.
The "shitposters" are also a problem but they literally only exist because xv-kun is unable to ignore obvious bait and opinions that he doesn't like

>>379771140
I am using context clues.

>Why can't people just have fun and have a positive opinion on the game guys.
>>Why does /v/ try to force the opinion that every game is bad.
>I want to know how it feels like to hate a video game but I've never been this dedicated to shitting on a game before.

There is nothing that implies that he is ok with both sides of the argument. He clearly leans one way and is ostracizing the other side

>>379771205
>He praise himself now
Get your shit together, XV-kun.

>>379769015
>where's the proof?
In the previous thread where he posted his webms desperately trying to shit on XV and Tabata while in defence of Nomura and KH, as he did in the thread before that and the one before that. You don't have to be in denial.

Both of those places are sidequest dungeons that you can stumble upon just by going there. I did the sewer dungeon before I even got Cidney's questline to go there to get the headlights.

>>379771639
>now
He's been known to samefag

>>379768096
One decent scene doesn't make the whole game amazing. Also it should've ended at the campfire scene, the dumb after life looking at random image throne scene was just western bait.

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>>379771205
Implying pic related is any better. At least Barry outs himself in threads and has no proof that his boogey-men participate in threads.

>>379771760
>just western bait.
Wasn't that the whole game?

>>379769446
But it's not, because it's saying 6m sales, specially only sales, they said nothing about it being shipment+digital in the financial report. Man you're in denial.

http://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/news/pdf/17q4outline.pdf

>>379771205
Well, you can't really argue against objective opinions, parroting, "not an argument" and non stop IP reset accusing.
In xv-kun's eyes these threads are literally him and one guys reseting his IP like 50 times

>>379769628
What the fuck does being menu based have to do with anything? In the context of the final battle it's still in principal you doing the same thing.

>>379771858
His "proof" is because he says so :^)

Final fantasy games have been shit for a long time. 10 was the last good game they ever made.

>>379769778
T-THAT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE IT'S TURN BASED

>>379769909
See >>379767826

>It's the worst FF game
Anyone who thinks this hasn't played FF2 and is therefore not qualified to discuss FF in any real capacity

>>379771860
Yeah, a lot of it or they at least tried to copy a lot. But the throne scene was just so unnecessary. First you have the campfire where the buds know that they'll most likely die and then you have the weird fake happy ending throne scene, it just feels like they added it a month before the game shipped

>>379771205
>For month
At least don't make your post easy to catch, mate.

>>379770075
Yes.

>>379772123
This.
As much as I hate XV, II has absolutely NOTHING going for it.

>>379771970
>In xv-kun's eyes these threads are literally him and one guys reseting his IP like 50 times

just like the anti crack shitposter. Which you can see in action right now in: >>>/h/4655180

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>>379772123
But why would i want to play the worst game in a series?

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So, what did you niggers think of Pitioss ruins? You did find them right?

Sombody point out XV-Kun. Everyone always says you can find out who he is. I really want you to point him out. Or is this another falseflag again

>>379763189
That's the best part

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>>379772165
>But the throne scene was just so unnecessary.
You know what was really unnecessary? The picture thing.

>>379772306
To put things into perspective

>>379770425
I breezed through costlemark at level 50, so I don't know what the fuck you're on about. Killing red giants and Nagarani's isn't hard when you actually know how to play it, and when you don't resort to cheesing it through chip damage and item spam.

>>379770696
Sounds like you just suck shit at the game. Get better gear and learn how to maximize damage deal and minimize damage taken.

>>379771869
Their 'sales' is shipment and digital that is what they count and what they get a money from and they has no reason to add it into a report because that's a common knowledge.

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It was a bad game, but a good final fantasy game

>>379772561
fucking no

>>379772319
Overall pretty good, but the games jumping mechanics are clearly not made for something like that. I was pretty disappointed though that it's the only real thing you need the flying regalia for. No optional summon, no optional floating island or dungeon etc.

>>379772123
FFII is great. Played on a playstation

>>379771982
>"we are using a brand new action-based combat system, unlike anything in FF games before it"
>"this combat system allows for new kinds of engagements and possibilities"
>"how should we make the most of this brand new experience?"
>"lmao idk just recycle menu-based concepts like single button finishers even though we have much more mechanics to work with now"

The context of a final battle in an action game =/= the context of a final battle in a turnbased/menubased game.

>>379772319
>So, what did you niggers think of Pitioss ruins? >You did find them right?
Never touched them

>>379772365
at least the dumb picture thing gives us moments like that

>>379772695
You're either joking or not a real human being, pick one

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>>379772356
This is a confirmed picture of Barry
Confirmed by instagram and social media.

>>379772101
>Real combat needs to resort to a boring, archaic turn based tripe feature in order to make a final boss
Shouldn't be the case man, XV has moved past that, final blow should be landed in the game's standard combat or not try to force that QTE shit and just put it into the cutscene after a proper phase.

>>379770789
Nomura fanboys are forever triggered because XV was taken from him and given to a better director, but they are too petty to even concede that. In general KH fags are the most autistic, petty and cancerous fanbase, and since they make up the most of the so called "versus fans", they endlessly try to shitpost against XV because of changes since it was Versus. Then you also have the fact that they are also FF13 drones because they liked FNC trash, which is also part of the reason why they cling to Versus so much because that was also FNC shit.

Good thing XV removed any of that FNC shit from the game though.

It also isn't helped by KH fanboys from gamefaqs who are notoriously cancerous coming over here to shitpost against the game, they shat up the FFXV board on gamefaqs too.

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>when even FinalFantasyFAQs slams this game

>>379772924
>the man defending the game obnoxiously is from NeoGAF
Threads should get nuked outright then, both sides are shit

>>379772883
How did you even confirm it was him. Where else does he post

>>379772123
>Anyone who thinks this hasn't played FF2
As flawed as it was there's worlds of difference between that and FFXV, FFII is an ambitious game that suffers from a few oversights and low IQ players not being able to understand the mechanics, FFXV is just a derivative turd with shallow gameplay.

>>379773058
Well, if FinalFantasyFAQ slams it.

>>379772485
>Sounds like you just suck shit at the game. Get better gear and learn how to maximize damage deal and minimize damage taken.
I have the best gear in the game besides the best sword, though I have Ultima Blade. I may not of spent my Ascension stuff well but it's not like I went out of my way to grind AP cheaply, just through excess level ups and killing anything in my path. You cannot tell me that fight is well-designed, given that enemy's highly-damaging super attacks with only one getting any telegraphing slow enough to react to.

And because I was using Wait Mode the camera refused to reorient itself properly when he sent his lasers out before they reel back in horizontally, so that didn't help.

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>>379773058
>FFXV proves to be a great open world game

>>379772924
>mixed and genuine reception on gamefaqs means orchestrated attack by KHfags

LMAO how many levels of delusion are you on?

>>379770916
You can literally beat Adamantoise in under 5 minute through regular combat, again you just suck shit.

>>379771039
>n-no u!?
Pathetic.

>>379772924
>on gamefaqs
Why don't you go back there and stay there

It should've just stayed what it was the first few chapter with all the open world parts, but actually make them good. The game has so much wasted potential and a lot of the features and story parts feel like afterthoughts taht were changed//added very late in development especially the flying car

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>>379773058

>>379773286
Because he can only go all out here without being banned permanently

>>379773095
He posts on pretty much any major forum that has discussion to XV and he openly admits it too. Gematsu, Youtube comment sections, Gamefaqs, /v/,

>>379773216
>You can literally beat Adamantoise in under 5 minute through regular combat

only with a very, very, very, very, very, specific set-up. Not everyone plays the game by breaking it over it's knee.

You speak for the hardcore elitist crowd.

>>379770916
speaks for the casual gamer crowd.

>>379773459
Man what a coward

>>379763648
>that slow floaty bullshit
>good combat

No. Maining Eight in type-0 was significantly more fun combat-wise than anything in FFXV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPcT7ORugyQ

>>379773490
Don't forget Neofag, oh wait

>>379773490
Reddit?

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>>379757958
>game was born of FF XIII Versus which was an ill defined shitmess from the tart
>sat in development hell for 8+ years
>making sense of the story depends on extras in the $300 special edition five people bought
>game play consists mainly of walking around in a vapid open world on being in the on-rails driving simulator
>no real reason to care about the forced love interest
>combat is either floaty garbage or unreasonably difficult
Considering how much was left on the cutting room floor, seems they were too far vested to walk away from what they knew was a massive shitmess of a project.

>>379773649
I should really get around finishing T0, but the huge cast that is thrown at you right away always scared me away a bit

>>379773661
>NeoGaf banned Barry
>http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=843254&page=2
Wtf I love NeoGaf now...

>>379773649
Jesus christ that fucking camera fisheye and excess motion blur makes me want to vomit

>>379773125
>A few oversights
You mean the entire levelling mechanic that makes attacking your own party the best way to get stronger? Or the fact that it constantly punishes you for investing time, effort and resources into your 4th character guaranteeing that you will only ever have 3 useful party members (besides Minwu, Minwu is the shit)? Maybe you meant how the entire game is a protracted series of cockblocking fetch quests that never pay off because they have to set up the next fucking fetch quest? Perhaps you were referring to the godawful story, dialogue, characters, locations, dungeons, bosses and world design?
>Low IQ players
Don't blame the players, the mechanics are never properly explained and terribly implemented, people understood them, they're just shit

I don't even give a fuck what you say about XV, don't defend II like it deserves it

>>379773846
I'm surprised he wasn' banned from gamefaq yet, those guys are insecure as fuck especailly in the FFXV threads

>>379773796
The characters don't matter and the story sucks. all the different characters are just thrown at you so you can pick which playstyle you like. Though eight almost objectively has the largest variety of combat options with his different stances.

>>379773771
Should've been cancelled and repurposed into something else. Cut losses. Games get cancelled all the time.

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>>379771210
>only directed shitty cross over games and a movie, all of which are garbage
>cuts up his games into mutliple because he can't tell a simple story
>Forced QTEs into every KH2 fight
>Cut out the intro of KH3 to sell as a stand alone piece of shit with a shitty 3DS port and an irrelevant movie
>Splitting remake of a game into multiple parts because he doesn't know how to tell a simple story
>Monsters are all poorly animated with the most kiddy sensitive attack patterns that a 5yo can beat KH2FM critical on level 1 by mashing QTE to win when not mashing attack to win, while can't make anything as good as XV with it's great readable attack patterns that were well animated with great AI and good hitboxes because he' a retard
>Wasted 7 years doing fuck all while making shitty spinoff games
>Couldn't even finish the first FF game he was tasked with directing and was kicked off
>His fanboys lie about holding X while ignoring you can and are better off tapping to attack
>His fanboys lie about character switching, when Tabata made the only SE RPG with character switching, while Nomura has yet to release one game with it. And the DLC is all seperate episodes on their own, not character switching.
>He can't even implement great features like weapon switching and directional inputs into his games
>Dresses like an autist and most of his designs are shit

>>379773992
I thought it was unanimously heralded as trash on GamesFaq.

>>379774031
Just to add insult to injury, Areanna is everything that Lightning should have been. What a wast of a character.

>>379773846
it's a psp port you faggot what do you expect. The combat is still far and away better than XVs

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>>379773185
>tfw redditposting is lost on you

>>379773846
You get used to it quickly. It makes the game feel FAST

>>379771397
XV has a main story, character building and you see things taking place. Just because some things aren't shown doesn't mean nothing is.

>>379774062
>Tabata made the only SE RPG with character switching
kek no he didn't

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>Speaking with Game Informer, director Hajime Tabata says the narrative direction was entirely intentional – namely the important events that happened off-screen. “It was for the players to experience the story through Noctis’ eyes,” he told the magazine. “The world and the events that Noctis sees are merely things that are seen through his eyes. We didn’t want to create a comprehensive and perfectly balanced story in this game. Instead, we placed importance on the main characters and for the player and Noctis to share the same experience when we tell the story.”

>With this sort of narrative design philosophy in hand, Tabata said it was only natural to increase the proportion in which the main characters are depicted. “It’s not that we decreased the role of the side characters,” he explained. “Focusing on many characters in the game means that the allocation given to the main characters will decrease. Instead of creating a comprehensive and perfectly balanced story, we placed greater importance on the four main characters and strived to depict a world seen from their perspective.”

Defend this.

>>379771858
Those people all exist, and you are delusional if you think they don't. They are just as noticeable as much as he is.

>>379774361
>he
kek

>>379773868
>You mean the entire levelling mechanic that makes attacking your own party the best way to get stronger?
That's exactly what I meant by low IQ players.
>>379773868
>Or the fact that it constantly punishes you for investing time, effort and resources into your 4th character guaranteeing that you will only ever have 3 useful party members
Not gonna defend this.>>379773868
>Maybe you meant how the entire game is a protracted series of cockblocking fetch quests that never pay off because they have to set up the next fucking fetch quest?
Just like any other RPG of the time? It came out in 1989 bro.
>Perhaps you were referring to the godawful story, dialogue, characters, locations, dungeons, bosses and world design?
None of those were awful in the slightest, you just have garbage taste.
>people understood them
Not really if you still perpetrate the meme of hitting yourself when it's mechanically way more efficient to fight normally, not like you'd know though since you actually don't know how the game works.

>>379774361
Seek help. You are never speaking to those people here just because you spoke to them a couple times in a comment section on gamefaqs

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>>379772319
Best dungeon in any FF.

>>379774351
>He looks so old now
Hate the game but this whole mess really took a tole on him, Tabata, you poor dude.

>>379774361
Yeah, some Matt guy or a NeoFagger girl like Kagari do come over to shitpost on /v/.
Some random Gamefaq dude he argues with certainly knows about the whole situation on /v/ and continues there samefagging.
Same people do come to rile him up but he's just trying to name call some random guys who he got burned with else where to justify whatever he says on this specific shit hole.

>>379772532
No, their sales is sales. You're in denial. If it was shipment they would say shipment just like they did before, but they specifically say sales there because it is sales. You're on some intense damage control right now.

>>379774689
That's Ultimecia's Castle.

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>>379772561
It was a great game and a great FF.

>>379772883
>Confirmed
No it is not.

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>>379774771
>now
He's always looked like an old man

>>379773058
>>379773343

See>>379772924

>>379774771
Well yeah,
>forced into a game on development hell
>not much experience with more actiony games or open world
>have to rely on viewer polls 24/7 because not much backbone as you don't want to lose your job
>half ass a script based off of millions of scrapped ideas and it bites you in the ass instead of just scrapping it all
>have to take the collective blame where the fault lies in everyone
>stuck on this shitheap until public opinion shifts with all the new stuff added
Poor guy honestly. I dislike the game but can't hate him.

Everybody just shut the fuck up and listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=398-9lP53DE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wniOUlRwaMM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l64HUmAhrSQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giI1sYmGOBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZA5iQZEPOE

>>379774689
>precision platforming and puzzles for a single dungeon in the entire game, in a game that doesn't actually have platforming anywhere else beyond being able to jump ontop of some stuff
as interesting as pitioss was, XV was just flatout not made for that kind of game design

>>379774689
>short
>no combat engagements
>platforming is not well suited for jerky movements of Noctis making your success based on luck, rather than skill
>awful end reward that makes game even easier

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>>379770379
I'm not sure. Game try to sell them as bffs, but then in Chapter 14 Talcott of whatever this fucker's name told you that Ignis, Gladiolus and Prompto didn't meet often during Noctis's napping in Crystal.
>see "best friend" after 10 years
>not even a single hug

>>379773649
>Eight
You mean a character who uses melee and no weapons somehow doesn't fight like someone with weapons? Just no. Never mind that using different weapons in XV attacks at different speeds.

>>379775118
And most people will only remember, at best, two or three of these.
Just because the songs sound good in the context of the game doesn't make them memorable or catchy enough to stand up to older soundtracks. 13's music is more memorable for fuck's sake, and I say this as someone that likes Veiled in Black and Apocalypsis Noctis.

>>379774809
>Their sales is sales
Uh, nigga, their sales comes from shipment and digital sales these are their sales, what the fuck are you farting about all this sales are sales? If you have no idea what you are talking about then just stop.

>>379775273
>implying you need multiple weapons in order to create a deeper gameplay style with mutliple options
Type Zero aside, that's wrong man, shit like stances or anything such as magic option can substitute that just fine if the game is based off of melee.

>>379774275
>He thinks SE made DQ Musou.

>>379775109
>forced into a game on development hell
He asked to be on xv
>not much experience with more actiony games or open world
He was strongly advised to not continue to make the game open world but did it anyway
>have to take the collective blame where the fault lies in everyone
He's not faultless
>stuck on this shitheap until public opinion shifts with all the new stuff added
He wanted on the ride, now he's stuck on it

>>379757958
Is the framepacing on the standard ps4 version fixed yet?

>>379774351
There is nothing wrong with that.

>>379775118
>Somnus from Versus XIII and fits VXIII better
>Hellfire is good
>Veiled in Black is obnoxious and repetitive
>No one can defend this poor Elder Scrolls Clone
>it's fine, not a stand out

>>379774567
>He doesn't know the best way to level HP, Defence and Dodge
Come back when you're actually good at the game buddy
Sure you could go out and fight things to get it done but it is way quicker to equip the weakest weapons, go find some imps and bash the shit out of your own guys
Not to mention the way fucking Magic levels up, that's just fucking stupid
>Just like any other RPG of the time? It came out in 1989 bro.
See that's funny because FF1 wasn't like that and it was the technical equivalent of fucking graph paper, sure every game was 'go here, do this' but it's the way it's executed which is important
>None of those were awful in the slightest, you just have garbage taste.
Yeah, it's me who has garbage taste

>>379775575
I know he isn't faultless, but the end product wasn't just his fuck ups. Shit like hold for combos never made sense
Ah didn't know he wanted to be on the dev team, thanks for informing me man.
Will the ride ever end

>>379775898
Tabata, Nomura, and especially Square Enix as a company are all to blame for this train wreck

>>379776030
I agree.

>>379776030
>>379776117
Should Tabata get a second chance with XVI?

>>379774831
No, Pitioss.

>>379775118
god tier

>>379775326
No, 13s music is trash and forgettable. While all the battle themes, character themes and story themes in XV are memorable as fuck and all god tier.

>>379775352
Are you fucking retarded? The financial report is specifically talking about sales, not shipments. Learn to fucking read. If they were talking about shipments then it would say shipments just like they did back when they said how much XV shipped.

>>379775508
Somnus fits XV as much as it fits Versus. Even more so because tracks like Dawn and Noctis's theme use leitmotifs from it and there are various arrangements of Somnus that play throughout the game pertaining always to things to do with the royal line/Insomnia

Hellfire is the best battle theme in FF ever, Vieled in black is the best regular battle theme in FF, also Shimomura composed that when it was still Versus too so good job shitting on your precious versus.

>>379774351
>has scenes that noctis couldn't have known about in the base game
>adds more with story patches

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>>379776241
Lol

>>379775118
It's okay I guess, but the music can't really stand up against the older FFs or Yoko's own earlier works

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elu5LoFiiXE

>>379775120
It's genius in design comes specifically because of how it subverts the fact that the game wasn't designed to even have that kind of dungeon, yet it does and it's great.

>>379775142
Just looking on youtube average playtime goes from 1-2 hours. For a dungeon without combat that's long.

The platforming works well specifically because it's build around how Noctis's jumps move and things are placed specifically keeping in mind the restrictions of his movement

The reward is getting through the dungeon through your own means because it's a good puzzle

>>379776241
>No, 13s music is trash and forgettable. While all the battle themes, character themes and story themes in XV are memorable as fuck and all god tier.
Listen, i'm not saying XV's soundtrack is bad, but you're like a brainwashed lunatic, just as you've always been.

>>379775326
>>379775740
How about something more chill ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rcerGuWDvk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxJc_Ka4JG4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q-gglSAhdU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV4WBO_VN2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW5arZdq4Ng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePq0QzG6hjM

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>>379776241
>No, 13s music is trash and forgettable.

It just doesn't feel like a complete game. With a fucking movie and anime to explain the backstory of characters and what happened during what is basically a fucking trailer for the movie. The combat is utter trash, the car mechanic is cool for about 10 minutes until you have to watch it drive to far away places, side content feels mostly like mmo fetch quests, very few actually memorable scenes, fixed party and a ending that lacked any punch because by the time I got there I couldn't give less of a fuck about anyone and anything in this game. But that's just my opinion.

>>379776241
>He still don't get it
The company sales = shipment and digital, you idiot.

> If they were talking about shipments then it would say shipments just like they did back when they said how much XV shipped.

That is literally their fucking SALES, retard.

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>>379768079
I hate metacritic

>>379776492
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za2X4DxFd70
never got far in Secret of Mana but damn if this song didn't stick in my head as a result of having to play that first dungeon a lot

>>379776241
So Somnus was hamfisted into songs to create the illusion that it fits.
>there are various arrangements of Somnus that play throughout the game pertaining always to things to do with the royal line/Insomnia
Why are you implying that that wouldn't have been in Versus and wouldn't have been better because it wasn't forced to be apart of a vision that was not the original.

The songs that carried over from Versus were created for a vision of a specific game. That game got shafted and those songs had to awkwardly be shoehorned into the new vision even though they feel out of place.

>>379776889
>Secret of Mana
fuck, meant Legend obviously
had the mana collection from the Switch on the brain since I was talking with someone about it earlier

>>379776631
The survey they released asking the fans what should be added into the game tics me off. Pretty much all of it should've been in the game from the start, and asking us to decide which one to do is just insulting. Why should we have to pick which flaw to fix first? Fix them all if you're going to ask about them.

>>379775575
>He asked to be on xv
Yeah, XV, not Versus, and Tabata said he wanted to be on XV specifically because he heard them in talks about it going bigger open world with better 8th gen graphics. And Nomura still said he's the one who asked him onto the team.

And the team was already going open world in some capacity anyway, they only cautioned him because they didn't know if they could actually make an open world because they had no experience in making one yet, not because they didn't want to make an open world. Nomura talked about Versus being open world in 2010 and the way Nomura talked about it is the same exact way that Tabata talked about it, they only expanded the open world since then but Tabata never wanted to be on Versus, only on XV.

>He's not faultless
So when the game is a success it's not because of him but when shit is criticized it's only his fault?

>He wanted on the ride, now he's stuck on it
And he not only made mad bank but now gets to make his new AAA IP game because the higher ups are giving him more power, he's also the head of business division 2 aka the advanced technology division

>>379776781
Paid shill do exist, my friend.

I like Nomura, how did he fuck up? I'm curious.

>2017
>Playing Final Fantasy

This series hasn't been good since FFX, anyone who says otherwise is in denial.

>>379776420
Sorry but what the fuck is this supposed to show me? Sorry you can't deal with the fact that XV has a better OST than 13 in every way. Better battle themes, character themes, story themes and better overall in terms of memorable melodies and tracks.

>>379776529
No, XV's OST is legitimately the best FF OST.

>>379776595
It is. Shitty ambient hamauzu shit and lack of memorable melodies make it shit.

>>379776780
Except the company uses both you fucking idiot. If they want to say shipment they would say shipment like they have in the past, in this very year in fact. When they say sales they are talking about sales, not just shipments. For fuck sakes you are in denial, XV sold 6 million. stop with your fucking denial already.