Besides randy, what went wrong?

It was released in a timeline where Overwatch and Team Fortress 2 are a thing.

It's just kinda bad and boring desu

Gearbox don't seem to understand that NOONE finds them funny, and the forced, over the top humour just misses the mark with the majority of people.

Fire Randy, fire the writers, fire the marketing department and MAYBE Gearbox can put out a release that isn't a total dud.

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They couldn't fuck off with the quirkyness and memes. Eventually leaked into the designs and gameplay.

>>379751692

The PC release fucked up as early as the launch-had a whole bunch of performance issues that made it just about unplayable. Then they insisted that PC and console have the same update schedule, so a full fix wouldn't be pushed through for an entire month. Then they tried to recoup their losses by holding a big sale, but that just made all the people who'd paid full price feel like they'd been ripped off.

The long wait for new story operations and the addition of microtransactions (which they'd been planning for a while, but still) didn't go over so well with the season pass holders, either.

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>>379751692
Overwatch isn't the reason Battleborn sucks and has underperformed.

>>379754706

No, but it's kind of hilarious how it casually messes with Battleborn, though. Announced a free beta weekend on Battleborn's launch, and announced Double XP when it goes F2P.

Unlikely any of that was done specifically because of Battleborn, but the timing is still really funny.

it's just not BADASS enough

>>379751692
terrible design
UI is a mess
poor publicity
not PC exclusive
not Free to play from the start
annoying voice acting
Gearbox

>>379753296
I read that entirely in Scooter's voice and it was spot on.

>>379751692
I heard Randy went crazy on Twitter or something?

Anybody have the caps?

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>>379751692
>Free to play model in a Pay to play game
>Piss poor marketing
>Randy Pitchford is a total PR holocaust
>Performance issues out the ass
>The release and months after were horribly mismanaged
>Pure schadenfreude in some cases, since the core game isn't horrible but people want to see it and Gearbox fail because Randy Pitchford is a terrible person.
Add on top of that competition from other games (Overwatch, Paladins) that is only increasing as time goes on (Quake Champions, Lawbreakers, Gigantic) and shit's only going to get worse.

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>>379751692
>not actually marketing the thing properly
As much as /v/ loves to bitch about outsided marketing budgets, they do work, and overmeme was the perfect example of this: porn for /v/idiots, /tv/ads for brodudes, and the game sold shitloads.

As someone with more than 150 hours in it, timing and the full price game that still has cash shop shit pay model. Trying to directly compete with OW was the single biggest mistake of the game.

That being said, I still had a lot of fun with it, and I wish it hadn't died so fast.

>>379758561
>>379751692
Also dont listen to most people on /v/, 90% havn't played or even looked at it more than screenshots posted on /v/.

>>379758561
PvE in the coop missions were a lot of fun. I'm a little disappointed they didn't try to take advantage of that.

it looks like shit, heroes look like shit, graphics are shit, doesnt look fun at all.

also gearbox is trash and needs to go bankrupt.

>>379757346

They actually made the original cast free in the Winter update, but there wasn't a whole lot of people left to enjoy it by that point. They definitely could have given their "free trial" a little more buildup though, or at least not been so snippy about it on Twitter-even Awesomenauts had a stronger F2P debut. Seems like something they'd want to handle gracefully especially since, like you said, the F2P team shooter market is tightening up.

>>379759039

Gave it a whirl recently. Honestly wasn't that bad. Needs some work in some areas, but it's not even nearly as bad as /v/ made it out to be.

It shouldn't have tried to compete with Overwatch. It should have waited until November instead. That and /v/ memeing killed it.

>>379759936

I think they are just bitter. I mean, they literally can't make a single tweet without people giving them shit and it's been over a year.

>>379760208

You make a valid point. Randy's probably feeling pretty defensive by now, especially since the Duke3D and Bulletstorm remasters fell flat.

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>>379758674
I downloaded it to see how bad it was for myself and started to enjoy it. My biggest complaint is having to unlock the gear we can purchase during matches. This is even worse than LoL's rune system

They're ripping off Evolve's rendering tech for Borderlands 3. I'm not even kidding. The inside man bit is substantiated.

>>379761201
The rune system is being done away with next season, later this year.

>>379761201

Presumably, you can get really good gear by playing through the PvE missions. But I don't think a lot of people are willing to blow 30USD on the option to grind for more stuff.

>>379761301
>ripping off rendering tech
wat

>>379761301

Doesn't 2K own Evolve now that Turtle Rock's contract is up? Wouldn't surprise me if they cherrypicked tech for another developer if they thought they could use it.

>>379751692
Bad writing and shit character design in a genre that's all about the characters, and boring, mediocre gameplay.

>>379751949
Yeah but that is not enough.
OW will lose it's novelty at some point and even bad games have somehow a fan following, just look at swtor and the games EAware shits out.
But this fucking game seems to be extra shitty for some reason.

>>379753228
>fire everyone at Gearbox and Gearbox will be gud
whew

>>379761413
I'm more of a Dota man myself but LoL isn't that bad of a game, Cute waifus
>>379761489
And thats a big problem who in their right mind would want to grind out pve in a game that might not even survive. Randy should change it so that everyone has the same gear to chose from,

>>379757789
I don't believe we have a legit shill problem. I genuinely think it's autismo gaylords hyped or whatever.

The porn idea is pure gold, though. Every developer should make their characters sexy and leak models (no clue how that shit works) to be used for porn or whatever the fuck.

Mad money. World's full of thirsty virgins.

>>379751692
not enough badasses in the world to play it.

>>379751692
Some post in an other thread had it right

>released during the same release window as a Blizzard game
And they could've just used Borderlands characters to atleast entice people to buy it

>>379751949

/Thread for real

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>>379762437
>use borderlands characters

WHY DIDN'T RANDY DO THIS?!? Like holy shit you have an established fan base with that game and you decide to make new literal who characters instead. How is this man still in charge of Gearbox?

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>>379751949
>comparing classed based shooters to a first person moba

Randy fucked up by going at Overwatch because people started comparing the two when they arent even the same genre. If he fucks up Borderlands 3 I want him shot

>>379762743
Every developer got to design his/her/its own character. That's why there's zero cohesion.

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>>379762743
>>379762437
How do you know if This isnt just gear box version of War Gods?

If they launched Battleborn as "borderlands Battleborn" as a multiplayer based game, I think people would still complain about "why dont make a stupid normal Borderlands game"

and if people think the Gameplay is crap, the Borderlands franchise wouldnt recover of it.

Beside, I dont know much about borderlands, but wouldnt the creatures revovle around mutants and humans?

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>>379763245
also, I guess there is Zero cohesion because its supposed to be Every inch of the universe is dead, except for 1 star, so you get all the characters from that lasted in one place.

I can't think of a single successful advertising campaign that used "badass" that much

>>379762743
They did, they are just called differently.
Don't tell me that Orendi isn't Tiny Tina

>>379763582
That too. Not a bad premise, just poorly executed.

>>379763612
would Tiny Tina throw pillars of magic, and throw Super mega hadokens of magic, and propel back moves?

>>379751949
Don't forget Paladins. Paladins>Overwatch

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>>379763245
No wonder half the cast looks like shit. The only acceptable characters in BB are
>Birdman (Benedict)
>Athena Robot (Galilea)
>Blonde Robot with many swords (Phoebe}
>Solider shooter guy (Oscar Mike)
>Fish woman (Alani)

>>379764307
Kelvin is honestly pretty neat

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>>379763967

How can this game be their most expensive one?
It's not hueg, not polished, not super innovative, marketing was nowhere.
Did they all blow it on coke for their release party?

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>>379763612
tiny tina would have actually been fun to play as because she's an established character already and besides orendi nobody else is like the borderlands characters where is my siren waifu?

>>379764515
kek

>>379753296
>you've already finished the objective before the NPC finishes talking

>>379764547
They blew it on damage control for Randy's tweets.

>>379751692
The infinite amount of threads we had to have about it around here.

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>>379751692
Gearbox started feeling too big for their panties after the moderate success of Borderlands games, and had the sheer retardation of thinking they could take on Bliz.
Their games only did as well as they did because when they came out the market for that kind of game was like a dry well, and they mistook it for some kind of mark of their genius.

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>>379764274

What is the appeal for Oriendi? Apparently she appears a lot in Battleborn art posted here but shes so annoying like everyone else, what am I missing?

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>>379764307
Beatrix could be saved if they gave changed her syringe arm into a regular arm and had the syringe as something on her back that should could carry with both of her arms. something like this image

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I wonder what our children will look like

>>379764724
Aside from
Orendi: Tiny Tina with a little Krieg

there are:
Marquis: Sir Hammerlock
Shayne and Aurox: Gaige and Deathtrap
Galilea: Athena
Ghalt: Roland
Oscar Mike: Axton

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>>379764274
Yup its the superior class based shooter and its free

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>>379765790
>comparing Marquis to based Hammerlock
>shayne and aurox anything like cutie Gaige and deathtrap

Well I agree with the rest Athena is much better looking

>>379751692
It's just shit. Clunk as fuck, unpolished, gunplay and boring, uninspired characters.

For shits and giggles I checked how much it was going for on psn today and
>29.99 United States of America Burger Bucks
>unironically
Lmaoing at your life Randy.

>>379766369
I thought it went free to play?

I'm sorry, "extended trial".

>>379766607
Only on PC apparently. I guess his ego just couldn't handle admitting how bad of a failure it was to the masses.

>>379766369

Well, you can get a physical copy for a fraction of that.

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>>379766607
you can still buy it

TROOPS! REMEMBER, FEMINISM IS AWESOME!

>>379766996
That's why it's funny. His ego won't allow him to set the price lower on digital downloads because he unironically thinks it's worth more than shit like FFXV right now.

>>379751692
Remove Randy and the game wouldn't have been made.
Randy is the entire reason the game bombed. Because it existed.

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>>379765774
Orendi is cute

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>>379767151
Saying it While killing Phoebe

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>>379767298
But FFXV is trash as well its just polished trash

>>379767509
And what is the excuse so Borderlands games dont bomb?

>>379753729
>posting that retarded pasta

you're worse than randy at his point

>>379761413
Will they make most of the roster viable too or is still only going to revolve around a small portion?

>>379751692
NO MARKETING. I swear, if it wasn't for the threads on /v/ I wouldn't even know this shit existed.

Ugly ass character designs. Really, they are fucking horrible. Even chinese mobages have better shit.

Overwatch being a thing. Still not the only reason it failed.

>>379767705
Sub par though it may be it is still far better, and far newer, than Randy's latest boondoggle.

It's more expensive than Watch Dogs 2 and Mafia 3 as well if you prefer those for comparison.

>>379767605
This picture is in every single battleborn discussion/thread/topic/fanart post/etc

>>379767151
I'm all for shitting on the game, but that is said as a joke, because you can kill females in the game.

>>379767962
It's a decent picture. But there's no new original content

>>379767836
Randy stole Borderlands from someone with talent.

>>379761926
>Evolve
Which was sabotaged for/by gearbox. Now we know why.

>>379767920
In terms of pro play it'll always be around a small portion. Characters in dota get a wider range of play because DotA heroes are overspecialized by design, whereas League characters tend to be more generalist in nature. In pubs most things do alright outside of a select few absolute trashcans, and honestly pubs are all I'd concern myself with. Some champs are gay as fuck still but that's just life I guess. So "Yes" and "No" are answers to your question.

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>>379762238
>he porn idea is pure gold, though. Every developer should make their characters sexy and leak models (no clue how that shit works) to be used for porn or whatever the fuck.

they're also bland as fuck. I can get behind some liz r34, but overwatch pr0n is just as boring as the characters.

>>379753296
This is so accurate it's not even funny.

>>379763582
>>379763765

the roster is as random as every other ASSFAGGOTS, why is that criticism never an issue there?

>>379768251
If he really wanted the porn to be made, they should have released the SFM 3d models

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>>379764307
>>379765482
IDGAF. I like Beatrix. Just not enough to play the game.

Genuinely do like Beatrix, though.

E D G E L O R D

4

L Y F E .

>>379765436
fun as fuck to play
OP as shit for the longest time
basically female joker
voice is less of an issue than /v/ likes to meme

>>379768416
em... Im not sure what you mean with this...

>>379762078
just like the Ken Levine
>fire everyone now I can be indie on a AAA salary

>>379768416
Battleborn is ugly as fuck. Worse than Wind Waker. New levels of fugly garbage.

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>>379766607
>>379766779

>The Free Trial will be available for PlayStation 4 players in Europe and Japan starting June 13, 2017. In the meantime, all current Battleborn players in Europe and Japan will have access to the latest patch content upon downloading the update.

>>379751692
I played it for awhile and to be completely honest the game feels unfinished in a lot of ways. It feels like 25% of the way into the game they got their development time slashed in half and they had to rush the game out the door.

These are my feelings on the game

>Bad animation over laid on good animation in the prolog intro video
This was so fucking weird to watch because you can clearly see where they just cut the budget and what parts were finished before they did it.
>Character models are weird but not in a good way
They look misshapen and weird and are weird to watch
>Abilities feel very weird to use on some heros
Some abilities just don't seem to "work" either their cast range is weird the time to use is weird whatever. Some heros are fine others are just ehhh.
>Some hero's have very good design
I would actually like to see in Overwatch the shield and sword hero. Give her a personal Rein shield to let her engage and a sword that can quickly dispatch other heros in single combat to force them off or to kill them sounds really cool

>Combat feels lopsided.
At times nothing dies for minutes and other times everything dies immediately. I cant figure out why. I've seen enemies take full focus fire from my team and just have nothing happen and I've had enemies that peeked and died from full health
>"Humor" is very bad
Some heros actually made me chuckle like Oscar Mike and his way to energetic gung ho attitude. Others just feel forced and cringy.

And the single biggest most unforgivable thing
>The game does not remember button holds. What I mean is say I'm holding down left mouse to fire my gun then I use an ability and hold left mouse down through out the ability. The game will not register that I am still holding left mouse down. I have to let go and reclick. I never noticed how much I do this in games UNTIL this game. Constantly while I played I'll notice and wonder why I'm not shooting and have to remind myself to reclick.

>>379769023
>europe and japan
What about the relevant part of the world?

The tone and writing take all the poor, cringe-inducing aspects from Borderlands and amplifies them tenfold, which is off-putting for most people over the age of 15
It also doesn't help that the art and character designs are straight up ugly trash, and not in an interesting or compelling way either

>>379769494
>The tone and writing take all the poor, cringe-inducing aspects from Borderlands and amplifies them tenfold
actually it doesn't

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It's clunky, badly designed and meshes all the worst parts of the Dotalike genre with a badly slapped-together multiplayer FPS. They saw that Overwatch had ults and ability cooldowns and were like, "Whoa it looks like they're making some kind of FPS-Moba hybrid, we should cram some creeps and towers into our FPS so we can make an even shittier Monday Night Combat!" and then two weeks later they finished programming and didn't bother to test it, at least it feels that way.

That's all without even getting into the memes and the shitty humor, I mean it's Gearbox that stuff goes without saying. Even if the characters weren't cringey hand-me-down Dreamworks knockoffs it would still be a shit game. It really, honestly feels like they didn't even try playing it before releasing it, every single aspect of the design and balance of the game is horribly wrong.

>>379765774
>Not a foot fag normally
>Clawed toes like those, make my dick fucking ROCK HARD
I don't understand it

>>379768875
>ken levine

he fired everyone because he went full retard wasting years and millions of dollars producing a bioshock sequel which killed the studio.
it got so bad at some point they had bring in the gears producer to finally get a working game out the door (after irrational scraped 1-2 other games as tie-in for BS:I. ever wondered why there are so many redundant weapons for VOX? leftover from their multiplayer-game).

worst part is when 2k finally had enough he shits out stupid dlc, recons BS2 (because the didn't work on that and some people like it more) and made sure no one ever could re-use his daughterfu.

t. BSG lurker

>>379769238
already have the free trial. only psn europe and japan have to wait a week for whatever reason.

>>379770240
Oh so it is, they just have it under the demos.

Still can't be bothered.

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>>379769956
What the hell?
Do you think they just made the thing in 1 year and rip off overwatch when was announced?

Then doom fist Is release and shown, and Everybody will say Attikus is a Doomfist rip off.
specially because he can jump super hi using his arm.

>>379768704
The voice is still annoying but everyone seems obnoxious here. I cant tell if they're trying to go with an "everyone is mindbroken and insane" kind of thing like in Borderlands.

There's too many debuffs in the game. Run into the action, get debuffed, die, respawn. repeat.

>>379768785
there is hardly any cohesion in lol/dota2/hots etc, but everybody is ok with or doesn't even notice. I've only ever see that criticism in battleborn threads

>>379770464
>Do you think they just made the thing in 1 year and rip off overwatch when was announced?

Uh, yes? Normally I wouldn't jump to that conclusion but... have you even played the game? Saying it was made in 1 year would be a generous guess.

>>379770782
I can see why if you played the first level of singleplayer like I did. It seems all over the place in terms of quality its baffling. Sometimes you have animated cutscenes, sometimes its in game, and sometimes its just still images as if this is some low budget indie or Japanese game.

>>379771062
Well I played the first couple levels of the singleplayer and then a bunch of the multiplayer, the multiplayer especially feels unfinished and underdeveloped. I've seen Half-Life 1 mods with more polish.

>>379770552
everybody is zany/wacky/quirky, there isn't really a character that plays it straight. orendi just has CRAZY in addition to it. you get used to it (and in exchange it has less memes and shit than borderlands).

>>379770679
not really, most will probably run a heal debuff and depending on your hero you'll be focused down. knowing which heroes do what is half the game

>>379770679
>there is hardly any cohesion in lol/dota2/hots
Excuse me? Every character in those games look like they belong in that universe. They have a coherent style that each character adheres to. There is consistency across designs. The only one you could argue for is Hots, but that game is literally a "smash brothers" of blizzard games. The characters from their respective universes are coherent.

Battleborn has characters with their proportions all over the place, and every character looks like they aren't even in the same game. It's extremely awkward to look at compared to those other games.

>>379768583
I love the IDEA, but god damn that's some awful execution, with some serious trannyface.

>>379770782
I recall Randy showcasing Stillborn in E3 a year or so before OW was announced in a Blizzcon, might have been the same year though, a few months before.
In fact when I saw OW the first thing I thought was "wow another one of those, how original".

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>>379771561
>Every character in those games look like they belong in that universe.
ok...

>Battleborn has characters with their proportions all over the place
just like tf2 and overwatch? it's like brawlers and tanks are bigger for some reason...

>It's extremely awkward to look at compared to those other games.
not really, there's shit in all those games, people just like to zero in on THIS in battleborn (as if there wasn't enough shit in it to point out)

>>379761301
Wouldn't surprise me, seeing as they already stole the visual style for Borderlands from that French(?) animator.

>>379773038
Codehunters
Check for yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmeP1YkaeTo

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>>379751692

Blizzard hate the game; they will never let the game have some room.

>>379751692
>Besides randy, what went wrong?
what went wrong? how about the fact that literally nothing went right?

seriously, try to name something good about battleborn. i genuinely can't think of any real upsides besides meme shit like "you can buy it super cheap because stores have trouble getting rid of it"

>>379770782
yes, I have played the game alot in fact.

That mentality is what made people say "Paladins is a copy of overwatch as well" even if Overwatch Was in close beta before Overwatch was shown to the world.

>>379771561
Yeah, because supper crying Mummy fits perfectly with the rest of the cast In LoL.

Or living in the future and having a Cowboy.

;P

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>>379763376
i wanna fuck that lizard

>>379767920
>will Riot ever learn to balance their entire roster
Riot will never balance their game properly. When the Rune/Mastery system gets merged and reworked, the only good thing to come out of it will be the fact you don't need to waste IP on having an advantage over someone that doesn't. However, the critical masteries that provide massive boosts to champs that could benefit specific champs will take advantage of them, and Rito will have to nerf its scaling. It happens every time.

The only way Riot could ever fix their game is if they do a MASSIVE overhaul in every champ simultaneously. Since they have over 100, that will prove to be difficult for them.

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>>379773582
What about Characters have multiple ways to play them, you can try to go for a CC build with montana, or a more Accurate damage dealer

Alot of characters have that kind of flexibility, you want to be a close combat? a thank? a healer or a damage dealer support.

If characters had 1 kind of ability and level up, Then I think i would have bored 200 hours ago.

>>379773582

The co-op is pretty fun. I think if they focused on that rather than the multiplayer it might stand a chance.

>>379772581
I miss season 3

>>379773446
double exp weekend isnt even that harsh
now if they had made it a "free to play" weekend where everybody can download and play overwatch for free - THAT would have been harsh.
but i guess they were afraid of randy coming to blizzard hq and going full anders breivik on them

>>379773412
I still don't understand why there wasn't a lawsuit. They even inquired about working with the guy before cutting contact with him.

>>379763582
If they have the power to traverse the entire universe and all gather around the last star, why do they fight on in ground battles with bullets

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>>379755574
>Unlikely any of that was done specifically because of Battleborn

Haha yeah it was just a coincidence

>>379751692
It looks really fucking bad. Not graphically but the style is so awful.

>>379751692
>So shit, there isn't even a Chinese bootleg
CHINA NUMBA WON

>>379774582
they wasted all their rocktefuel on the journey and have to rely on their groundbased robotspiders

>>379755574
Battleborn shittalked Overwatch and challenged them on Twitter pre-release

you can bet your ass Blizzard did this on purpose to trigger them even more

>>379775571

Eh, plenty of companies take jabs at each other over social media. Seems a bit silly that one tweet from a company hilariously out of their depth would prompt such a response out of pure spite.

>>379755574
>>379774664
>>379775571
A typical case of talk shit, get hit

Everyone knows Overwatch killed Battleborn. And everyone agrees covering up Overwatch, because everyone agrees murdering Battleborn was a good thing, so there will be no charges, despite the murder being blatant and trying to drive a certain point home.

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>>379774582
There was Intergalactic space battles... but when everything went south, there isnt much resources
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUQa-267NQo

Most of the missions revolve around having to activate machines in the planets and other stuff to stop the Beralsy and Rendain for destroying the last star.
So you have to get in some places and get inside temples, fortresses and prisons. and fight a bunch of monsters in foot

>>379751692
I played the beta and the game was confusing as fuck, too much info on the HUD.

>>379775963
>out of pure spite.
Not necessarily. Even if Stillborn only has 5,000 players left that's still 5,000 players Blizzard wants the shekels of.

It may be embarrassing, shitty competition it doesn't mean it isn't still competition.

>>379775571
After seeing Toby saying
"Come at Me Bro"
and Zenyatta Actually Answering, and Battleborn getting destroy to a pulp

I cant stop imaggining Zenyatta throwing his balls into Tobys ass until he is so stuff that start comming from his mouth. While Zenyatta Laughts for the gigantic rape they put on the game.

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>>379776617
Forgot Pic

>>379768583
"EVVVIL LOL JK IM CUTE NICE" Is there a more tired trope?

>>379772581
>just like tf2 and overwatch? it's like brawlers and tanks are bigger for some reason...
That anon partially had a pic related on mind.
No one in TF2 or OW have that proportion size of head/body (inb4 reinhardt, he has an armor)

>>379771561
>Excuse me?
Back the fuck off?!

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>>379778216
I guess you didnt excuse him
>>379778016
What I wonder the most... Is mccree....
How does he fit in that Futuristic setting... he is a Cowboy... the only futuristic thing about him is his revolver.... kind off... he doesnt have an electric cigar.

>>379778325
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDiBGMnqq5Q
Just like I remember TF2

>>379778016
>OW baby pretending to know about TF2

>>379763196
>Being this correct

>>379778325
>where_do_you_work_out.png

The game's a clusterfuck.It's some of the most chaotic, unfocussed bullshit I've played in some time, like Serious Sam, but while you're trying to kill everything, you're also trying to defend an objective, find hidden shit, level up skills that barely seem to be altered by your decisions, and all the while the game's screaming at you like a retard, trying to convince you of how fun and wacky it is.

I've never seen a game be this try-hard in my life, it's unreal.

Playing borderlands 2 for the first time now. 4 hours in. Will it ever become not boring as hell?

>>379779284
I hear that the only way to play Borderlands is with friends.

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>>379776740
Always funny

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>>379779284
You are playing it couch coop, right? Its not as fun solo because its meant to be a mindless shoot and loot while you chit chat with your buddy.

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>>379779539
Correct, playing Borderlands with your friends is actually fun, even the endgame content is based around having a full team.

>>379779284
>>379779439
>>379779539
They are correct.

t. played every single BL game multiple times with my brother

>>379770083
Is that why the game looks and feels NOTHING like what the original trailers give off? The entire vibe of the early stuff feels so different from what the game ended up being. Even when you take games like MGSv into consideration infinite feels like night and day from what we were originally told we were gonna be in comparison

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>>379779539
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>>379779876
No, solo. I have one friend with borderlands 2 but I don't really think it'll become fun with only two people. Oh well.

>>379751692
you have to unlock characters by playing the single player

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>>379779869
>>379779539
While this is true, I do think that Pre-Sequel is a pretty good game to solo and is a lot better than 4 in that regard. Then again I played Blue Athena and that shit was DMC in Space.

>>379780172
They changed that, all 25 initial characters are unlocked from the start now if you own the game and not the Free version

>>379780172
That kind of suck, but you could get them kind of fast... except for 2 of them...
sure it was a dumb idea, but at least was patch later so you have everything from the start...
..
What I dont know is if even if they had all the characters from the start would have help

its kinda fun t b h
just played for the first time today, and its actually a decent way to spend some time with friends

too bad KF2 is "free" on the psn, probably will play KF2 a lot more

>>379780319
I never even played it because I thought it was some money grab.

>>379780510
Kf2 lacks content though, still makes me sad.

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>play orendi because of the memes on le 4chan
>actually fall in love with her kit

>>379780609
Pre-Sequel is great. Not as long as 4, and there's lest post-game stuff since 2K Australia went under but I really like the mobility offered by a low-gravity environment and Athena is a fucking cool character.

>>379780319
Athena is one of my favorite borderland characters and probably one of the best characters in the borderland series skill tree and ability is so good I hope she is playable in BL3

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>>379780621
But would you love her if she was the monkey that she could have being?
...
Well, If the kit is the same, I guess you would still love her

>>379780609
Its not as good as BL or BL2 but its not that bad.

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>>379780802
Same, Athena and Krieg are great. I'm actually moderately excited for Zhin in Paladins because while he isn't true melee, he's still super close range and I just like slapping the shit out of people.

I hope that Pickle is playable in 3.

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I enjoyed the weekly shitting on battleborn threads but I never participated cause I never tried it, so I didn't know if /v/ was just blowing things out of proportion.

I tried the game since it went f2p, it's worse. It feels and looks so cheap compared to borderlands 2, hell, even 1. It boggles my mind. Didn't this game get a fucking huge budget?

>>379780862
The first and third ones are the best, in my opinion

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>>379751692
They still have it priced like 10 bucks too much

>>379774317
randers breivik

>>379771561
The only cohesion in those three games is DotA2. They have a relatively darker color scheme and rough design in the modeling. Heroes, like Leshrac or Puck with a more vibrant color don't clash because their designs are consistent with everyone else. League has the most inconsistent of the designs and clashing colors. You have dynamic models like Gnar, and Kled, with loads of facial animation and active movements. Then you have models with static facial expressions, and no life to their character. Even Rakan has more aninations in his face than Xayah, who was released the same day.
Then there's HoTS. That game has some gorgeous colors and models for some heroes, but the overall design of the characters is far too atrocious. Some heroes just look too bulky or gritty compared to their models in any ither existing game in their franchise. While others look so good, it's as if they don't belong.

t. Someone who plays League the most, but thinks Dota2 > HotS > LoL

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>>379781241
>all that money wasted when we could have just got Borderlands 3

Someone needs to remove Randy already either from the company or from the realm of the living

>>379781241
I'm convinced the budget went into advertising or for Borderlands 3, something about it screams that it lacks polish.

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>>379781241
Where is the lucio screen shot with the ana potion effect?

>>379779525
Ouch...lol

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>>379782159
I hope its from the realm of the living but that would mean Randy is saved from the hell that is his life

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dailly reminder

>>379764515
What the fuck is up with Randy and the word badass ?

>>379783340
His ass felt bad when his wife's bull tried him out