The Witcher 1 > Witcher 3 > Witcher 2 Prove me wrong

ur right nigga desu

>Witcher 1
>enjoyable
choose one

I'd add a huge fucking power gap between TW1 and TW3

1=3>2

(Don't argue this)

TW2 > all

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>>379697320
i agree op. 100%

I actually enjoyed the clicking combat in 1.
What makes me kek to the moon and back is when someone bitches about witcher 3 combat. LOL kid, you don't even know. fire up witcher 1.

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>>379697320
The Witcher 1 > Witcher 3 > Witcher 2
FTFY

>>379697320
Witcher 2 is far far far better than 3 and 1. I mean by a fucking country mile. The only people who enjoy 3 more are those who never touched 1 and 2.

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>Really like witcher 1
>Witcher 2 is more contrarian
I am not sure what to post desu

the witcher 2 is such fucking consolized trash compared to 1, what a disappointment

why does the #2 in the franchise always have to be the one to called shit?
when was it ever really deserved?

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>>379697494
I beat 2, three diff times. It's great, but still the worst in the series. Far too short to. feels rushed and linear the entire way.

Agreed that TW2 wasn't great, but despite its strengths there's no way TW1 comes out on top unless you are a super PCMR sperg who vomits at the idea of the game changing from MKB to gamepad focus.

>>379697320
Not with that fucking swamp

I like all of them.

>>379697648
Objectively wrong. 3 was awful. Combat was somewhat better. Levelling system was far worse. Dumbed down in terms of sex and number of sexual partners. Rape barely mentioned. Areas had no character. Story had no progression. Sotry was awful and nothing compared to the one in 2 which I should add was not even remotely carried on from in 3. 2 may as well not have happened story wise even though it was politically intriguing and well written. Continue being wrong though.

3 > 1 >>> 2

I love 1 but give me a fucking break.

I think W1 aged like milk but at least it's got some fun.

2>>1>>>>>3

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>>379697660
Witcher 1 is unbeatable when it comes to atmosphere. It's so good that you stop caring about combat and technical issues. It may not sound like an important factor, but people who have completed the game will agree with me.

TW1 is probably the worst game I ever wasted my time on

>>379697798
>Objectively wrong.
How to easily dismiss an opinion without the need to read further 101.

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>>379697798
anon 1 is my favorite, not 3.

1 is a good rpg
2 is a mediocre action game
3 is one of the better open world memes

so i'm guessing w1 and 2 have different combat and aren't open world and that's why /v/ prefers them?

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>>379697805
this desu

>>379697839
>>379697896
Everyone on /v/ gushes how Oblivion has the best atmosphere, when it's actually lowkey witcher 1 that has the best atmosphere.

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>>379697839
>Witcher 1 is unbeatable when it comes to atmosphere. It's so good that you stop caring about combat and technical issues.
THIS

>>379697320
>TW1
>clunky mess with good ideas that made it worth playing
>TW2
>cinematic bullshit game with shitty semi-open world and useless chapter split that was at best annoying
>TW3
>undisputed masterpiece that broke the record of most GOTY awards
Done.

>>379697924
2 has the same combat as 3 but slower
1 has an unique combat system that modern audiences hate

1 is your typical rpg with smaller zones
2 is a corridor running simulator

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Core story of TW2 was best by far. Salamandra and Aldersberg fucked around for a while and got a bit silly, while Ciri's magic adventure was overshadowed by nearly every subplot in TW3.

TW2 had the best characters, best political intrigue, choices that mattered, and some of the best sequences in the series. Only Gaunter's riddle comes close to the Draug and the fog.

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>>379697973
>>379697839
also, the game utilizes Aurora Engine.

>>379698043
the boss itself was fine but the part where you played as the soldiers was awful on hard difficulty

>>379697798
>Dumbed down in terms of sex and number of sexual partners

someone wasnt paying attention to the story, yet complains about the story
lmao

I wish dice poker would also be in 3. Gwent is great but I miss it.

>>379697320
1>2>3

3>1>2

>>379697624
Donkey Kong Country 2 m8

1 =3 for different reasons >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2

2 was a miserable experience and I'm glad they got their shit together for 3

>>379697320
*proves u wrong*

Loved 1 and 3, replayed them 3 times each. Uninstalled 2 after 10 hours. Pure filth.

>>379697376
That's not how it works, anon...

2 is actually outright broken. You don't even use the alchemy tree because your potions are just going to expire while you watch the pre-boss cutscene.

>>379697320

>1 above 2 and 3

Not with that combat

>>379698324
Witcher 3 isn't about sex anymore. It's about romance. It's like a fabio book of romancing strong capable women when in 1 and 2 you went around bedding sluts.

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>>379698572
>tfw liked W1 combat

>>379698572
>click 5 times with a period of 2.5 secs.
>win

Will take it over clunky Dark Souls knock off any day.

I agree. 1>3>2.

When I played 1 I treated the combat as a rhythm game sim and thus found it less shitty. I was amazed that a game at that time could emulate a living breathing world full of npcs just hanging about and talking. It's also got some major nostalgia factor with its beautiful landscapes

>>379697839
I think all of The Witcher games have amazing atmosphere, and then it's ruined by the fucking terrible audio design. NPCs are nonstop repeating the same fucking lines over and over again, singing dumb little songs or making fart noises. They really need some kinda way to make ambient background chatter and have actual fluff conversations be more balanced.

PAM-PA-RAM! PAM PAM PA-RAM!

YOUR MOTHER SUCKS DWARF COCK

>>379698090
It uses the renderer of the Aurora engine but basically everything else was stripped out and reworked by CDPR. The actual Aurora engine can't even do sloped terrain.

>>379699154
OOOOOOODRRRIIIIIIIIIINNNNN

HEEEREE BOY

>>379699154
OOOOOOOOOOOOPF FARTED!

>>379697468
What exactly did you change?

>>379697320
1>2>3

The 3 is the worst : Worst character, worst story, worst choices>consequences.
And the horrible gameplay mixed with the open world filled of question marks makes the game boring AF.
Also nice downgrade.

1 = 2 = 3

>>379699154
Got their asses whipped like a Novigrad whore

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2 will forever be an underrated gem

>>379697839
This, so much. Especially the third act.
Only Flotsam and white orchard can reach that level.

>>379699154
I FUCKED A SHE-ELF ONCE

BAB A BA BA-BA..... BA BA

IM ITCHING TO HIT SOMEONE

>>379699735
Surprised they havent ported it to PS4/XO yet, Console fags should play it also

No one really played the 360 version

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>>379697320
It had the best waifu, I'll give you that.

>>379697798

>Dumbed down in terms of sex and number of sexual partners. Rape barely mentioned.

Go have a wank mate I don't want bioware tier companion orgies

>>379700160
>MUH STRONG WIMMINZ
Yeah fuck off cuck. Story suffers because niggers like you have made CDPR go fucking politically correct.

i played witcher 1 and 2 back to back and honestly going from witcher 1 into witcher 2 was one of the most frustrating experiences i have ever endured. every fucking design decision they made with the witcher 2 is infuriatingly bad. everything. it controls bad. the crafting is terrible. the inventory management is terrible. the combat is terrible. the talent tree is terrible. the qtes, what were they thinking.

the only thing the witcher 2 did that was great was the branching (well it split into 2). but that was infuriating too after having been neutral in the witcher 1. if you pick the temerian route it's like you are playing the rest of the game with blinders and miss out on loads of major plot points and have no idea what the fuck is going on towards the end. i didn't even realise saskia was the fucking dragon until i read about it after finishing the game. so there you have a branching story where EVERYONE tells you to play the saskia route because it's way way better. a failure of game design. it was rushed and needed another act and some serious refinement. the witcher 1 is a flawed gem, whereas the witcher 2 is just flawed.

>>379699906
Who the fuck is that?

>>379699906

>you can't save her

Fucking feels.

>>379700218
Shut up, nerd

>>379699893
If they could port it to the RedEngine 3 and have the movement and combat of TW3 I'd play it again. But it's so fucking terrible to play otherwise, it's like the stiffest game in existence. Also I'm still mad that they made it look better on 360 than it looks on PC in terms of lighting, PC version still has the fucking circus lighting with awful post-processing DoF and light halos.

>>379699906
Wait, who's that?
And she needs to shave her pubes. She's got more hair down there than I've got on my head.

>>379699906
this bitch kicked my ass

1 had the best combat, very good music and I actually ended up liking the combat. Very comfy game.

2 is great for a decision driven game and the political scene is nice too since it makes it feel like you have power, movement felt too strange to be immersive

3 has the most content, very good music, dlc, side quests

I enjoyed the open world in 3 but if they ever made another Witcher it'd be nice to have it with the chapter system from 1 or 2

>>379699906
Is she only on the Order path? I've never played that one, only Scoia'tel and Witcher paths.

>>379700250
>>379700329
Rayla of Lyria

>>379697320
take the nostalgia glasses off and you'll realize it's 3 > 1 > 2

W1 was a great game but it has many flaws. try looking at it after you've already played 3 and you'll realize you can't go back

>>379700519

>Scoia'tel
>ever siding with those unreasonable woodniggers

For shame, Order path with based Siegfried is a joy. Still devastated he wasn't in 3 beyond a couple of minor references.

the witcher 1 is great except for how every woman tries to get you to fuck her. im not interested and its pretty cringey

>>379700572
Oh, now I remember. I thought it was pretty fucked up, what they did to her, and how she didn't give a shit.

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>>379697320
Agree.
If Witcher 3 was only 50 hours long I would enjoy it as much as the first game. It just feels so dragged out for the most part.

>>379700519
She's on all paths AFAIK. I played Scoia'tael and had to fight her just before entering the Old Manor. I also watched Gopher's neutral playthrough and he fought her too.

>>379700646
>Siding with anyone at all

Siegfried is best boy but his organisation is some fash shit.

>>379700876

You're absolutely right, when I do eventually replay it I'll go neutral. I went in blind not knowing anything about the Witcher and found the Order more compelling than turning a blind eye to Yaevinns bullshit.

I regret nothing

>>379699906
Who is this

Image search gives me nothing

>>379698790
iktf

>>379701217

>>379700572

>>379700876
>is some fash shit
implying that is not best part
I actually would side with the elves in W1 and W2 when I was younger

>>379697423
This is the correct opinion.

>>379700729
Needs more Drowners

>>379700646
This

>>379697423
Pretty much this
Witcher 1 was great after you do the tedious shit
Witcher 3 has tedious shit spread out more along with good stuff
The HoS DLC is probably peak Witcher

>>379701474
Funny how the Order got kicked out and turned into a bunch of drug dealers and robbers huh? Sure gave me a kick

>>379697320
Finished 2 twice for the 2 different paths. I liked the linear design and the the feel that you were playing through a novel because of the chapters. It felt like a tightly nit experience that told an interesting story and gave you choices that felt important up until the very end.

Couldn't finish 3 once because it goes for the same feel, but just lets you do anything, at basically any time. Feels like there is no sense of urgency (gotta find ciri!, but first let me explore every part of this map), plus fuck getting new loot to check every 30 seconds.

That sword...is for monsters.

>>379702396
haha I get it it's because he's the monster xD so deep xD

>>379702396
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa23SEE2dsA

I love these fucking dorks. Lambert is such an amazingly entertaining prick.

>>379702512
lambert lambert what a prick!

>>379702040
>get Siegfried in charge
>he gets fucked behind the scene
>"your decisions matter"
also
>Radovid is mad now
>Kalkstien is dead
>can't meet Vincent
>no Iorveth
They could have put focus on that instead of some random loot cache or just some fields and mountains with nothing to them. Open world games are the cancer

1 > 2 > 3

3's open world format was some of the most boring evah

>>379702396
>>379702503
both swords are for monsters, actually

>>379702592
Because CDPR are lazier than Bioware when it comes to acknowledging previous games. If a character is potentially dead they just don't show up. Would've been like in ME3 if Garrus and Tali don't show up at all even if they survived because they didn't want to make content that not everyone got to see.

Alvin did nothing wrong.

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>>379702001
>The HoS DLC is probably peak Witcher
agreed

>>379703447
Um yeah he did. He made the exact same goof as the Master in Fallout 1, trying to mutate humanity to survive the cataclysm, not realizing that the mutants would be sterile.

>>379697973
>Everyone on /v/ gushes how Oblivion has the best atmosphere
I haven't been here in a while, when the fuck did this happen?

>>379704349
Fucking nobody does. Also the only TES game that even approaches having some kinda atmosphere is Morrowind.

>>379703815
Not really, he only wanted to make soldiers that would help humanity to survive.
Its really interesting how he became what he was through experience.
>sees Geralt as a here
>wants to become a witcher and protect people from monsters
>so he takes over a holy order and steals witcher secrets to do just that

>>379698554
this, i hate that potions and oils last for such a short time, as opposed to w1 when they were actually worthwile because the bonus from them was stronger and they lasted longer

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>>379697839
maybe

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>>379700238
my dude

>>379698554
Also you have to meditate to use potions, so good luck taking the proper potion for the encounter after you've already started the fight.

>>379700238
>tfw replaying w2 and going for roche's side
>after couple of hours regret it and wish i was doing iorveth's route

>>379705161
Iorveth's side is so much more fun, too bad it has zero impact on TW3 though. Aenselt dies regardless, Saskia dies in some fucking comic offscreen, Iorveth is just gone and is barely mentioned.

This is really one part where I think CDPR fucked it up bad. Don't have a split 2nd act to then completely ignore it and everything the player did there.

Also TW3 completely ignores anything from TW1. No flags carried over, but their money was on big console money which didn't have the first game, so lol.

>>379700238
I remember being really pissed off when I played Witcher 2 when it first came out. The fucking tutorial was awful and I had no clue what I was doing at the time. It was very different from Witcher 1, but I still really liked it after I got used to it

>>379705361
It was so bad that they patched in a prologue to the prologue where they actually tell you shit instead of just having popups that you easily miss.

>>379705325
i wanted to have a good ol' witcher marathon before actually playing the third one, but now i guess i might as well not fucking do that and just play witcher 3

>>379705325
At least Witcher 3 had Thaler, so that was good.
>>379705423
Yes I remember, fuck that part where the Dragon shat flames on you.

>>379699671
>Got their asses whipped like a Novigrad whore
I teleported to the sing post instead of the optimal locations just to hear this one.

>>379705518
If you haven't played them before, play them, but if you have, even if it's years ago, then nevermind them, just play the third one. And don't try and import a savegame if you are playing on PC, just do "simulate TW2 save" when starting a new game, you'll have a scene after the prologue where you via an interview pick the things you did in TW2. There's only like 5 things, aside from 1 of them they hardly matter, and there's no incentive to actually import a savegame, no equipment/money etc carries over like it did from TW1 to TW2.

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>>379705671
>import save from Witcher 2
>its not actually last save
>find out there is no Letho and that I used wrong save way later
Had I known this would happen I would just picked things in the interview

>>379698032
>1 has an unique combat system that modern audiences hate

1 has literally the worst combat of any game i've ever seen

>>379706002
And there's the main reason to do the interview instead. Even if you let Letho go sometimes it imports the wrong save that wasn't actually the last one with that one set, and when you find out in TW3 it's like 15 hours in and way too late to start over.

>>379706063
>t: launched it once and dropped it during prologue

it's a fun system

>>379697320
I'm angry. Angry about elves.

It is abundantly clear Witcher 3 is a stand alone game that ignored every choice you made in W1 and W2.

>>379706319

I played the first witcher game multiple times. Probably long before you picked up the series. Trying to say the combat is good is absolutely retarded. It's literally left click, see what you're hitting is doing and then click again.

>>379705671
okay, I did play them so i guess i'll just jump straight into w3
equipment carrying over from w1 to w2 was bullshit anyway, best swords of w1 became useless as soon as you were able to buy a sword

>>379706442
as opposed to the excitement of spamming X in the third game

>>379706442
i had more fun with witcher 1 combat than witcher 2 combat

>>379706397
Because (kinda justifiedly) developing extra content that requires multiple playthroughs to see is a wasteful endeavour since it's extremely few people who ever play a game more than once.

It's only too bad that they chose Roche and Ves instead of Iorveth and Saskia, but I guess they stat tracked it and found out that most people who played TW2 went with Roche.

>>379706573

You can literally button mash to win fights in first. You can't say the same in any of the others.

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>>379706002
You're supposed to pick the last autosave you made, they're not ordered by date so just find the last autosave in you MyGames folder and delete the others so you can select it with on problems.

>>379706103
>not wanting to import the blue stripes tattoo

>>379706647
>witcher 1
>mash buttons
>too fast too fast too fast

Series importing shit between games is such a fucking gimmick. I don't know why anyone gives a shit about such a bullshit distraction.

You can't have decisions carrying over while simultaneously offering meaningful choices with significant impacts. Just pick a canon ending for the shit that matters. Anything else is just dumbing shit down.

>>379706529
I understand that's why they stopped doing it but they could've at least had some kinda mention from Geralt, explaining how he lost all amazing shit you'd have at the end of TW2.

"Where's your Vran armor Geralt?"

"I don't like to talk about it"

"Does it involve a zeugl?"

"Hrrrh"

>>379706597

Then you just have shit taste.

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>>379705361
>>379705423


And THAT children is why I don't play games on launch. Every Witcher game was broken and unfinished on release day.

But hey if everyone demanded a quality product this industry would be dead. Always wait for the GOTY edition.

>>379706807
or that really cool sword that he got from a goddess for defeating a god

>>379706751
>don't click anything
>nothing can hurt you

>>379706737
Oh yeah I forgot that carries over. But I'd rather have Letho in my game.

>>379706761
I wish they would, but instead they end up making things ambiguous so you never find out about them. Like Princess Adda for example, Radovid married her but we never know what happened to her because you can potentially kill her in TW1, so she's just written out entirely. Only exception is Thaler really.

>>379706941
>not doing a pacifist run

>>379706924
I mean, you can get that back in Blood and Wine... With a reference to you losing it, which is exactly how you should do that.

>>379706809
>more clunky version of dark souls combat with fucked up hitboxes and also QTEs

>>379706807
>>379706924
It's a standard RPG conceit. I don't know why anyone would expect anything different.

>>379707121

Yes and it's still better than the first games combat.

>>379707146
At least RPGs often have some sorta explanation as to why you either lost your gear or why it's become totally outclassed in the meantime.

>>379707308
But they don't. And every time they do it's some contrived bullshit, so I don't know why anyone would care.

>>379707146
yeah but it's kinda dumb how geralt goes from a god of war with legendary weapons to chump with sticks in a span of a couple in game months

>>379707308
no, they don't

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w2 lul

>>379707453
I said often, not always.

>>379707409
It's RPG equipment progression. It already doesn't make sense that there's some massive difference between one sword and the next in the first place. How is the progression being reset in a sequel any stranger?

>>379707515
Would be funny if there was a way to just fuck the game completely by letting you keep the endgame equipment from the last game. Like how Metal Gear Solid games let you break the game after beating it once.

>>379707514

And you're wrong because it's not something that happens often at all.

>>379706620
Oh I understand the financial decision and CDPro was right.

Most of the W3 players were newcomers on the PlayStation 4. But it just makes games feel empty if none of your actions matter. Why even bother with open world and multiple paths then?

>>379707809
So if a roleplaying game isn't a series and only has one entry, none of the choices you make matter?

>>379698008
Tw2 is the most repayable rpg of all time and the best narrative structure in gaming bar none

>>379705671
>not importing your blue stripes tattoo for a glasses geralt playthrough of tw3
Shit taste

>>379706924
>>379707308

Saskia ate Aerondight at the start of 2. Im still pissed that Raven's Armor couldn't be imported though.

>>379704794
3 was great, but not the same kind of great, not really sure how to explain it

Kaer Morhen does win best overall atmosphere of all three games tho

>>379697320
There is nothing to prove wrong, because you are for once absolutely right.

Only literal casual consolikids prefer "we want DaS audience" sequels.

1 had a lot of things going for it, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

>play witcher 2
>import save
>after 30 minutes you find equipment that completely outclasses raven armour and aerondight
fuck tw2

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>>379708434
>keeping a tramp stamp of worst boy
get a load of this dh'oine

>>379708491
I'd let her eat my sword as well, if you know what I mean

>>379697598
it was still a very enjoyable game, despite it's shortcomings

>>379699154
IT'S DERVAN NOW

You have to be a nostalgiafag for this to be true. Hearts of Stone alone is better than 1 and 2, the entire package of 3 isn't even comparable.

3>2>>>>>1

>>379708881
>le "oh come on now! :^)" face meme
this is perhaps the most pathetic argument TW2 kids have against the original game. TW1:EE was all around superior game, superior Witcher experience, and superior WRPG.

>>379708491
No, she eats your starting silver sword, you keep Aerondight in your inventory. If you didn't have a TW1 save you'd then have to make a new silver sword.

>>379697320
Witcher 2 was the best video game, witcher 1 had the best atmosphere and act 4, and witcher 3 had the most content although quality went down by a lot.

>>379711773
>Witcher 2 was the best video game,
anything with that terrible gameplay AND UI cannot be best anything. Playing 2 is simply suffering.

>>379711765
She eats whatever you have equipped, but the game is scripted to eliminate the default silver sword because losing your imported gear before you even got to use it would be a huge dick move.

>>379711719
>TW1:EE was all around superior game, superior Witcher experience, and superior WRPG.

lol.

The shit people come up with to make up their garbage opinions different from any sort of popular opinion is hilarious.

>>379711773
if witcher 2 is such a good video game then why does the idea of replaying it feel so fucking unappealing?

>>379711897
It had better combat than 3

>>379710613
>You have to be a nostalgiafag for this to be true.
Not OP, and I only started playing the series in 2013 forward, and I too think that TW1 is miles superior than any of the console sequels.

The atmosphere is amazing, gameplay has lots of depth and variation on top of being simple and comfy, characters are not stereotypic western arctypes, and especially sex is handled in much more tasteful way. Replaying TW1 is a pure joy, something the sequels, especially TW2, fail horribly at.

>>379712002
It moght have something to do with you being pleb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTYDUoJUXXk

>>379712030
No. That regen-HP endless rolling, with Geralt being a little bitch who cannot drink HP potions all the sudden, make it THE most clunkiest and infuriating to play.

TW3 was a step to right direction, but still a fucking mess. Even in combat alone, 1 > 3 > > > 2.

>>379712145
what is this video supposed to prove? it looks fucking terrible. even gothic 2 had better combat than the clusterfuck in tw2

2>3>1

>>379697320
the witcher 2 was my first game in the series and i still prefer the 1st because of the story and environments which definitely felt closer to the books universe over the sequels.

although i had lots of fun in the witcher 3 nearly every big quest was about finding ciri and the connection between geralt and the gang felt rushed and a little empty. i'm still yet to play the to dlcs though so i hope some of those issues are fixed.

>>379712030
TW2's combat is fucking appalling. The pirouette mod makes it look slightly less retarded, but the base problems are still there.

>>379712150
>tw3
>step in the right direction
You must be fucking joking. Tw3 has awful, unresponsive combat with lackluster enemy patterns and dodging. Fighting with ghoul group #12345435 is fucking annoying as shit.

>>379697320
Witcher 1 has so incredibly shitty and buggy combat that its unreal.

Story- and RPG-wise? 1 > 3 > 2

As an overall experience 3 > 2 > 1

Then again my opinions might be biased since i always play all games on hardest difficulty and witcher 1 was truly and thoroughly miserable experience after returning from lakeside. The multitarget combat is extremely frustrating and difficult to control properly, add few friendly targets to the mix and it becomes impossible to sustain combos and you get weird whiffed attacks all the time and targeting fucks up and you find yourself reloading every multitarget battle 5 times because came doesnt do what you tell it to do.

>>379712670
>You must be fucking joking
No, I'm not.
You TW2 kids really are pathetic to the max.

>>379712150
> Even in combat alone, 1 > 3 > > > 2.

This meme is hilarious.

>>379712773
>Witcher 1 has so incredibly shitty and buggy combat that its unreal.
No, your taste and attention span are what is shit here. Never had a single bug in the game.
Even the combat is way more entertaining in W1.

>>379712145
Man Witcher 2s combat was actually fucking tactical. It ruled.

>>379712773
>3's story better than 2's
it might have had better side quests, but the overall 'find the mcguffin (but with tits!) and save the world is the shittiest most boring story that ever was

>>379713083
>but the overall 'find the mcguffin (but with tits!) and save the world is the shittiest most boring story that ever was

Because you're a fucking pleb who can't into the actual Witcher series.

>>379712790
>kids
Said tw3 kid. Tw3 ruined witcher franchise for me.

>>379712985
agreed, people will argue the first games combat was the most tactical but honestly the second half way point the game was a breeze for me after getting better weapons.

the witcher 3 on the other hand is quen, dodge and stab vs anything = guaranteed win

>>379712976
Your existence and delusions are hilarious.

>>379713207
Sorry, I'm a TW1 guy.

>>379713083
Better than the clusterfuck that is TW2 which ends up being about nothing at all. You start the game off to clear your name, then you have to save Triss, then some shit you had nothing to do with happens and you are just fumbling around.

Then you meet the guy who was treated like a villain for most of the game and find out he was just doing it because of blackmail, and killing him does nothing. Then everyone goes home and nobody seems to lift a finger regarding Geralt still being the prime suspect in the murder of Foltest.

>>379713310

You have to be actually retarded to think Witcher 1's combat is better than anything.

>>379712979
>No, your taste and attention span are what is shit here.
Nice fucking strawman faggot, i have finished the game twice. Read my post again. Also confirmed that you have never played W1 with hardest difficulty. Its approximately 7 times harder than W2 or 3 hardest difficulties and absolutely cannot be cheesed. You have to build your character perfectly and prepare perfectly in order to have a chance. And if you didnt experience anything glichy with multitarget battles in last 2 chapters, im sorry to inform you but you havent played the same game. Also it wouldnt be an issue if those targeting bugs and combobreaks wouldnt lead to constant reloads.

And even then Gothic 1 & 2 are infinitely better than the entire Witcher series.

>>379713420
>and find out he was just doing it because of blackmail
Yeah, fuck you, you never actually played 2 didn't you?

>>379713560
Played it 3 times and his motivations still make no sense other than "Emhyr told me to do it because Viper School".

Call me contrarian but my opinion is that 2 > 1 > 3
Solely on gameplay and RPG elements, the story choices making impacts in 2 was nice too

>>379713421
No, I just don't have to have a shit taste of a GenZ Xbots who think that those semi-realtime DaS clone combat systems would be "enjoyable" or even "good".

>>379713465
>Also confirmed that you have never played W1 with hardest difficulty
what's that have to do with anything?

>And if you didnt experience anything glichy with multitarget battles in last 2 chapters, im sorry to inform you but you havent played the same game
Or you're running on W10 or something, prolly playing some 10yo v1.0 non-Enhanced Edition version.

Literally had zero crashes, zero game breaking bugs, zero issues with combat.

>Apples are infinitely better than oranges!
t: (You).

Move goals a bit more, maybe you'll sound more beliavable.

>>379713421
not him but it is. you probably couldn't comprehend getting over the lack of a queue system and likewise are too stupid to form your own opinion and regurgitate shit spewed by mongs on the internet. 2 and 3 are just generic roller action combat. 1 felt like you actually played a superhuman

>>379713465
>Its approximately 7 times harder than W2 or 3 hardest difficulties and absolutely cannot be cheesed
>witcher 1
You are talking or fcr mod or flash mod i assume. Otherwise witcher 2 dark difficulty is the hardest.

>>379713725
>Solely on gameplay and RPG elements, the story choices making impacts in 2 was nice too
TW2 has jack shit RPG elements, and ONE chapter changing in a binary manner is nothing compared to the ENTIRE REST OF THE GAME changing in numerous ways depending on your choices in TW1.

TW2 is literally a shitty console hack&slash game.

>>379713465
>And even then Gothic 1 & 2 are infinitely better than the entire Witcher series.
Yeah and dark souls is infinitely better than gothic, your point? We are not comparing franchises here.

>>379697320
which ever one you finally realized you had to swap the key bindings for dodge and roll for.

>>379697320
Witcher 1's gameplay is shit enough to detract from the overall experience quite a bit. If I wanted great stories, I'd read books.

>>379714006
I liked it more than 2 and 3

>>379713730

You just have the shit taste of a literal drooling retard to prefer left click combo is better than a lesser dark souls combat system.

I didn't even say the combat was enjoyable or good in the witcher 2 you sperg. Just that it was better than Witcher 1's combat because literally anything is better than that garbage.

>>379713761

As opposed to the stupid shit you're parroting here about liking the unlikable? Fuck off.

does 2 get better? got witcher 3 GOTY edition as a gift and I'm playing through the series so I atleast know who is who in 3

1 was nice but 2 is a bit of a slog. I dislike the artstyle, the look of geralt, politics, combat, alchemy etc.

>>379714184
2 at least isn't very long, at least.

>>379714172
how is it unlikeable? it's not at all. it's actually fun if you don't try to play it once and drop it cuz it's clunky and you can't figure out how to make it work

stop regurgitating shit and try playing it

>write a tragic comedy about a deranged outcast and his deluded attempts at having a real family
>sells pretty damn well, becomes a classic in the slavic part of the world
>some guys approach you, saying they want to make a game
>be an RPG fan anyway, so why not
>sike, it wasn't CDP yet, it was Metropolis, the project crashes and burns
>some time passes
>another set of guys with zero experience approach, want to make a game
>wise from the last time, ask for a lump sum up-front
>lmao they actually finish the game
>they throw away most of the themes, insert their own attempts at "comedy" with punchlines being mostly "kurwa XDDD"
>all semblance of human tragedy and realism are gone, now it's an edgy "killing monsters >:c" world ridden with dark fantasy tropes
>it starts selling in the west, people get exposed to it faster than to the book
>expect me to not be salty about it

>>379714184
political aspects of 2 are the best part so if you dislike that chances are it's not really your game but you might as well finish it it's not all that bad either way and a superior game to 3 by the way

>>379713730
>what's that have to do with anything?
Anon in charge of having reading comprehension.

Lets try that again, read my original post for the 3rd time please, let me help you... its right there :
>>379712773
Okay, 4th row of text, first sentence, got it? Probably not, let me paste it here
>Then again my opinions might be biased since i always play all games on hardest difficulty
Read it carefully, got it? I am not complaining about the same game, shit 2shots you 24/7 on hardest difficulty and you need pretty much constant consumable uptime during the last 2 chapters. Its complete and total pain in the ass and not enjoyable in the least.

Even conceptually witcher 1's combat is pure shit compared to anything. And my last playthrough was before W3 release, it was still shit and i actually cranked the difficulty down for the last 2 chapters because it is just unbearable.

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>>379714336
Oh yeah, forgot a picture.

>>379714294

I have played the game moron. I probably played it long before you ever picked up the series. That's how i know the combat is trash.

There is nothing fun about left click for attack one and if you want a second hit click again and so on. It's not fun or engaging in any way. Every time you have to fight in the first game is a chore.

>>379714336
It's diminished, but there's always been stuff about Family in the Witcher games. See Alvin in TW1 and the Strengers in TW3.

>>379714504
then you have shit taste. high combos especially group ones are infinitely more fun than generic rolling around and attacking

and you didn't play the game judging by how you describe it. typical w3 baby. bah bah muh open world muh metacritic scores. top kek

>>379714336
nobody cares you fag
>>379714620
Well if he had mentioned that it would have destroyed his narrative and you can't have that when you shitpost

>>379698790
Go play Summoner then

>>379714336
lel w1 is literally a game about a social outcast with memory problems trying to start a family

>>379714647

The combo's aren't fun at all because they're so fucking easy. You're playing fucking flappy bird with a sword.

I never said anything about any of the other games in any way besides them having better combat. Which they do. The fact you're trying to distract from the fact the first games combat is ass says a lot about how you need to have such a unique and unpopular opinion and love dog shit so you can't be considered casual.

>>379714620
The family stuff is there, it just lacks interesting characters, because CDPR is unable to write that. Everyone is either grimdark or "edgy cool", they're not real fucking humans.
Also the fact that they're basically repeating the book's story, but in a shit way is pretty depressing. Just because books were about the family, doesn't mean Geralt was only about having a family.
>>379714731
Try again, bottom-feeder.

>>379697320
I only ever played witcher 3 but I liked it

Doubt I would get the dam experience from either of the older games

>>379714985
what are you even going on about you mentally deranged fuckwit.

w1 combat is objectively better than 2 and 3 and there's nothing you can bring to the table in the form of an argument besides muh popularity

>>379714172
if I wanted to play a Souls game, I'd boot up Demon's Souls. That shit has no room in a Witcher game, even more so a bootleg hybrid system that does not fit anywhere.

Only thing TW2 has over 1 is its polycount.

>>379715073

The combat is literally click once, see what's happening and click again. That's it. There's nothing engaging about that.

You have literally no way to "objectively" prove it's combat is better. You're a moron and a clown/

>>379714184
>does 2 get better?
No. It's a terrible slog, and I really had to push myself to finish it even once. Like said, it was the first Witcher of the Xbots, so of course they will hype and shill it everywhere.

TW3 has veeery little to do with TW2.
3 is almost like a direct sequel to 1 in fact.

>>379715267

What the fuck are you even saying? The sword and combat revolving around not getting hit doesn't belong in a Witcher game?

Do you even know how Witcher's are described to fight in the books?

>>379715293
The combat in TW3 is literally press X, see what's happening and press X again. That's it. There's nothing engaging about that.

>>379715267
lel TW3's combat somehow became even more boring than 2

says a lot when you have half your budget go into shilling and you still can't convince people you finally made a good combat system
>>379715293
there's nothing wrong with that. at all. though. it fits the game completely, and especially fits an RPG, and it helps the development of geralt as a superhuman. as opposed to frantically spamming dodge and attack. you're probably mad because you couldn't spam attack in 1 since the lack of queue system fucked you and were too lazy to time it.

and you still haven't played the game so why bother talking to me about it? you underage redditor

>>379712030
No it fucking didn't. Stop deluding yourself.

>>379715068
>Everyone is either grimdark or "edgy cool", they're not real fucking humans
Vincent, Kalkstein, Siegfried, Shani, Raymond ect
>grimdark, "edgy cool"
maybe in your autistic mind
>Just because books were about the family, doesn't mean Geralt was only about having a family
He knows that, you fucking mongoloid he was just giving an example how you were wrong

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>bought and played W3 GOTY
>lots of content but mediocre combat
>liked it enough to buy both W1 and W2 on Steam
>stopped playing W1 after an hour because of the combat

Please tell me it gets better because this shit is just boring and clunky.

>>379699154
>YOUR MOTHER SUCKS DWARF COCK

That's the funniest part of the game though

>>379715793
1 has the best combat

>>379697320
Why does Vesimir narrate Dandelion's intros in W3?

>>379715753
>Vincent, Kalkstein, Siegfried, Shani, Raymond ect
>any of these
>well-written
LMAO
They're fucking flat like a pancake. They're so forgettable, that your post just reminded me of them, outside of maybe Shani. Read the books, you fucking retard.
>He knows that, you fucking mongoloid he was just giving an example how you were wrong
Maybe in your autistic mind, since that, in no way, contradicts any statement in my original post.
But again, keep trying.

>>379715490
Only if you are playing on the lowest difficulty, scrub.

>>379715490
>The combat in TW3 is literally press X, see what's happening and press X again. That's it. There's nothing engaging about that.

Call the horse? Literally what?

>>379715504

I played the first game after it first came out sperg. I played it and completed it before the enhanced edition came out, bugs and all and then played it again when it did come out. I know about the game than an edgy kid like you would.

It didn't fit the game at all because Geralt is stuck standing in place like a statue and blocking every attack if you don't even press anything. Granted that was simply because of limitations of the game at the time it was still poorly designed and boring and took away from what the game did well.

Trying to deflect from something that almost everyone in the world unanimously agrees is shit and calling me a redditor doesn't change the fact the combat is ass.

>>379697320
3=1>2

>>379697376
This.
It's a walking simulator that makes you go back and forth with brief interludes of one colour Simon.

>>379716139
>They're fucking flat like a pancake. They're so forgettable
lmao maybe if you have memory of a gold fish
>Maybe in your autistic mind, since that, in no way, contradicts any statement in my original post.
>the story is about an outcast that tries to start a family and the games fail to capture that
but they do that
>well Geralt is not just about that
neither he is in the games

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>you will experience witcher 1 for the first time again

Witcher 2>Wither 3>shit>Witcher 1

>>379716792
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1beH3kq-dlo

witcher 1 had amazing OST. best thing about that game

> you will never experience any witcher for the first time again

>>379716080
Wondered the same thing. I'm assuming it's either him using some sort of storytelling tone or it's an older version of him.

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>>379717024

>>379716673
>They're fucking flat like a pancake. They're so forgettable
>lmao maybe if you have memory of a gold fish
Nice argument there, idiot.
It's like saying not all Witcher characters are edgy, because the grandma at Shani's house exists, when she's a perfect example of atrocious "lmao funny grandma had sex in the past XDDD" writing. Are CDPR writers 13 years old, or just acting like ones?
>the story is about an outcast that tries to start a family and the games fail to capture that
>but they do that
Did you just fucking fake a quote from the same thread on 4chan.org, how fucking retarded are you
>well Geralt is not just about that
>neither he is in the games
That's correct, the other part about him in the games is gritty voice and being a generic "cool badass". That's like somebody haven't understood that Geralt was cool because he was witty and relatable, not grimdark.

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Can I just read all the books and skip to 3, 1 is terrible and 2 doesnt seem much better

Gonna have to fire up Witcher 1 again i think. About halfway through my first order playthrough.

>>379699154

YOU'LL CHOKE TO DEATH ON THREE POUNDS OF COCK

>>379717301
The only thing that matters is that Geralt and Yennefer somehow came back to life due to Ciri's lolhax powers, both had amnesia for a while but now they don't.

>>379717301
yeah but you won't get some details from the beginning

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>>379717650
>>379717624

I don't care about their stupid relationship, I just wanna learn about Ciri and Geralt and their wacky adventures

>>379717263
>"lmao funny grandma had sex in the past XDDD" writing
Again you are probably autistic if you only got that from it, she actually acts like human being and not some "special snowflake gotta make up people characters that act like no human in real world does because otherwise it would be a trope in some aspies mind"
>Did you just fucking fake a quote from the same thread on 4chan.org, how fucking retarded are you
>shorten the gist of the other guys point
>reee you made it up
kek
>That's correct, the other part about him in the games is gritty voice and being a generic "cool badass". That's like somebody haven't understood that Geralt was cool because he was witty and relatable, not grimdark.
>everything I don't like is grimdark
interesting point

>>379717301
>reading those books

Maybe sword of destiny and the last wish, the rest is apalling shit and has the bad writing AND a generic fantasyshit story. At least the first few books were somewhat original by just following a professional.

>>379697320
W3 DLCs > W2 > W3 > W1.

>>379717904
I read the first two and enjoyed them

I'm on the 3rd one

Holy shit it's so bad. Pretty sure its just been 100 pages of Triss pooping herself and wanting to fuck Geralt.

>>379717760
you're gonna have to give a shit about Yen too since she's pretty much her mother
read the last 2 stories from Sword of destiny and Blood of elves if you want Ciri&Geralt action

>>379718213
I can deal with Yen but I fucking hate Triss. Bitch swoops in like an afterthought.

>>379718421
>tfw Blood of elves is just 'Triss shits herself do hard she gets a cold and people are killed because of her' the book

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>>379717024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWrE_3viOY0

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The witcher 1 has a terrible plot and combat, not to mention the technical limitations from the engine.

The witcher 2 has decent combat at first, but late game it becomes shit. There's also something that bothers me big time about TW2 combat and it's that enemies have an instant counter (unblockable/unavoidable) attack that they can perform at any time, so the game pretty much punishes you for trying to combo. This is also usually a 1-2 hit kill in the higher difficulties, not very fun.

>>379719324
>not to mention the technical limitations from the engine
Like what?
>enemies have an instant counter (unblockable/unavoidable) attack that they can perform at any time, so the game pretty much punishes you for trying to combo
No shit, it's almost like the devs weren't going for God of War 500 hit combos
Are you DSP?

>>379697320
WHAT
ARE
YA
DOIN
IN
MY
SWAMP
???

Did someone say Witcher music? This isn't from the OST but from a "music for the game" album but fuck it, close enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_ZZ6eGltRs

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>>379697320
I don't care how many people praise it, Witcher 1 was an absolute chore to play. The amazing atmosphere and story was dragged down by the godawful combat (aka spam igni and group attack if not against boss), non-stop backtracking over the same boring regions with nothing to do (excpet Act 4), ESPECIALLY THE FUCKING SWAPMS, the characters looked horrible for the time, and so on. Also pic fucking related

I never got frustrated this much in Witcher 2 or 3

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>>379719557

>>379718723
I hate Triss as much as the next guy for turning on Ciri but there's no need to make shit up anon
The attack on Yarpen's caravan had fuck-all to do with Triss

>>379719449
>No shit, it's almost like the devs weren't going for God of War 500 hit combos
No that shit is not valid, don't you remember soldiers blocking their blows while still holding a crossbow or unsheeting a sword?

>>379719651
>>379719645
The swamp complaint is so silly
>okay the next dude I have to talk to for my quest is over there, will probably take 30 seconds to walk over
>but oh no, there's 10 drowners in the way that are so low-level they don't even give XP
>I can't possibly just ignore them and then kill the entire train with 1 igni, that would make too much sense

>>379697320
I agree. 2 was fucking terrible.

>>379719702
That's one animation that's a bit wonky, doesn't make the entire combat system bad
>implying you can't block with a crossbow

>>379698314
Try it with full combat rebalance. Pure hell.

>>379720008
>That's one animation that's a bit wonky, doesn't make the entire combat system bad
no it does not but its a dumb bug
>implying you can't block with a crossbow
but they were not they would change to sword and while doing that could still magically block

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>>379698043
The only sensible post in this thread.

>>379719896
Or just equip the ribbon that makes them ignore you

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>>379714802
my fellow negro

>>379719449

>Like what?
No vertical movement

>No shit, it's almost like the devs weren't going for God of War 500 hit combos
Are you DSP?

Probably one of the shittiest counter-arguments I've read on the site.

It's one thing to have NPCs blocking you immediately or countering you after a long combo, but in TW2, they can do that immediate/unavoidable counter in literally the 2nd hit of the combo, that's terrible combat design.

>>379720640
Why is any combat that doesn't employ combos automatically bad?

>>379720751

Are you dense? The combat isn't bad for not employing combos (Also, it does fucking employs combos, just that it does it in a very poor fashion) it's bad because enemies have an immediate unavoidable counter they perform whenever they feel like it. They can cancel your attack animation and you have absolutely no way to defend yourself against this.

>>379720946
Try not wailing on them 10 times in a row
You're like those faggots complaining about the Letho fights because you're too stupid to stop attacking after 2 or 3 attacks

>>379721173

>Try not wailing on them 10 times in a row

For fucks sake

I literally mentioned they can do it after the 2nd hit if they please, and you still go with the "LOL DONT DO A 600 COMBO XD!"

Yeah, you're a retard, figured as much

1>2>>>HoS>Poo>W3>B&W

>>379721298
>after 2 hits
Sure thing idiot, keep lying

>>379721540
Go fucking fight against the Gargoyles in Loc Muinne tell me how many hits it takes until they get pissed off.

>>379721606
>miniboss-like enemy is harder
Wow you don't say
I didn't know gargoyles had crossbows and swords they could draw, either

I can't enjoy 3 because of how godawful the writers for this game are, it's such a fucking mess of a game.

2 is the best written but too bad when the game is so short, and the gameplay mechanics so poorly thought out.

1 is a good balance between, and it has god tier atmosphere and soundtrack (better than Witcher 3), so I guess It's my favorite too

>>379721723
The gargoyles are not mini bosses you retard, they're the bread and butter monster from that area

>>379721913
Sure, and Endrega queens aren't minibosses either because there's 3 of them in the Flotsam forest!

>>379721723

But Gargoyles are not mini bosses???

Also, even if what he says is exaggerated, the standard human enemies do perform that counter after roughly 4-5 hits, some do it at 3, and it's not telegraphed or anything, they'll simply cancel their block animation and enter the counter attack state. That's not good combat design

>>379722184
>But Gargoyles are not mini bosses???
They are!!!
>the standard human enemies do perform that counter after roughly 4-5 hits, some do it at 3
So stop attacking so many times in a row then
>and it's not telegraphed or anything
Why would a block be telegraphed? All they need to do is throw their sword up to parry
https://youtu.be/v5hn7l0ZTCs?t=112
Video related, this is how you play the game

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>my face when I love all three games

1 and 3 are the best though

Any games that come close to the quality of this series?
I've been left with a void...

>>379722148
First of all: There's no such thing as "mini boss" in TW2, not with official nomenclature.

Secondly: Theres 3 endrega queens in flotsam forests who are only hard because you're underleveled

Third: There's not just 3 gargoyles either, dumbass, there's fuckloads of them. Like I said its the standard BnB from loc muinne

>>379722467
Gothic 1/2 and 3 + Risen

>>379722413

Attacking 3 times in a row is definitely not "so many times in a row". Especially when you consider the source material says Geralt can hit like 10 times in 2 seconds

>>379722609
Well if your only problem all along was that it's not accurate to the lore, then I agree. The books also don't say that Geralt rolls everywhere like a retard, but such is the combat system
>Attacking 3 times in a row is definitely not "so many times in a row"
It clearly is though, because you keep getting parried during your combos. You can't just go around crying "waaaah bad design" because you refuse to learn the insanely simple lesson of simply not trying to combo all day
>>379722497
There's like 4-5 encounters, most of them around the rune rooms for that quest. Also, good to know that i'm not allowed to call it a miniboss because the game itself doesn't use the term. Guess the Kayran isn't a boos then either?

>>379719645
You only backtracked in Chapter 2 and 3. Chapter 1 and 4 were GOAT but felt too short.

The combat complain is legit: how could they implement such a retarded combat in a game about a mercenary?

>>379722535
Gothic honestly ruined RPGs for me.
Witcher is the only series which came close to it.

>>379722413
>They are!!!

Nuh-uh

>>379722915
It's an RPG, not an action game. I guess they thought they needed some input because just watching Geralt auto attack everything to death would be boring
I kinda like it overall actually

>>379723058
Okay, you know what? I'll concede that they're not minibosses because clearly everyone else takes issue with that. I was just using it as a shorthand anyway, so I'll be clearer: Do you not agree that it makes sense a decently big monster made out of stone should be a harder fight than some faggot with a sword? That's all I was getting at, gargoyles block more because they're supposed to be harder enemies, especially considering how late in the game they appear

>>379722413
That video's hilarious, in his defense though the prologue is hard. I played on dark mode and i had to repeat that ballista fight more times than any other section of the game.

>>379722890
It's not, it simply is because the devs said so, but it makes no sense, and yes, the solution is simple but it doesn't mean its not frustrating.

Just like how until dawn devs said that Matt wont magically use the available flare gun against the monster if you didnt choose to go back to the tower, even if both decisions have NOTHING to do with each other, it's called bad game design.

And no, there's several gargoyle encounter, one part on the walls actually has you fighting against groups of 8 or more, how is that a "mini boss" to you?

And the kayran has a big health bar on the middle of the screen implying its a boss, you used a terrible example.

>>379713420
>clusterfuck that is TW2 which ends up being about nothing at all
Nah, you're just retarded. Go play shitrim, that's probably more up your alley "story"-wise

>>379723298
See
>>379723270
Didn't mean to get side-tracked with the whole miniboss debate.
Just out of interest though: What qualifies something as a miniboss for you?
>>379723284
>the prologue is hard
Yeah certainly. Remotely sane people use that to change their gameplay style and learn the combat system instead of complaining endlessly about muh attack getting parried though. Like seriously, the prolog is great for teaching you to roll more and not get greedy

>>379723474
>>379723298
Forgot to add: I don't see how it's frustrating to simply refrain from spamming attacks against a single target. In your opinion, how many times are you allowed to attack one enemy without him being able to defend himself before it stops being frustrating?

>>379723050
it definitely ruined the current AAA open world bullshit for me because I know what an actually handcrafted open world full of content worth exploring looks like

>>379719896
>He plays on easy

>>379723474
>>379723270


Nobody is saying that the player should be allowed to make 500 hits combos or that the gargoyles shouldn't be hard.

But there are better ways to balance things than to include an immediate, unavoidable counter attack that they can perform in ANY part of the combo (yes even if you've only hit them like 2 times).

You don't see enemies in dark souls cancelling their HITSTUN animation to immediately switch into a connecting parry.

>>379724073
I seem to remember playing on hard in my pre-Witcher 2 playthrough but it might just have been medium. Either way, drowners can't do shit to you when you outlevel them a lot, and once you arrive where you want to go, you can just kill one bloedzuiger and blow the whole parade up

>>379723663
>>379724102

And the devs themselves included unique animations for combos of up to 8-10 hits, so its pretty stupid that they intended to let you make those combos but at the same time include a mechanic which punishes you for attempting them-

It's frustrating because it prolongs the combat for too long, without making it particularly challenging (when you follow the "Rules" of not hitting more than 1 time)

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>>379722915
>Chapter 1
>GOAT

what kind of drug are you taking

>>379723102
RPGs are BUILT on the combat system, and the combat system of Witcher 1 was awful

>>379724102
Of course you have to compare it to Dark Souls because every single fucking RPG with action combat has to be compared to it
Okay then, just pretend that everyone has infinite poise so you can stop crying about it. How is it bad design to have the enemy be able to parry your combo?
The counter attack isn't even fucking unavoidable, just roll away if they block (since you're apparently unable to stop yourself from mashing attack in the first place)
>>379724393
Use the combos on different enemies
>positioning yourself tactically and exploiting openings for short attacks is frustrating
I honestly can't see what you want the combat to be like. Do you want 10 hit combos every time you hit an enemy, so any enemy dies in one combo like the common footsoldiers?

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1=3>2

I love 2 but it had issues with combat and other things. Nothing will come close to the experience of playing through 1 for the first time though, I still remember that moment I finally beat it and https://youtu.be/2AdAfy1V0to started playing.

Its one of those vidya moments that not many things have come close to.

>>379724568
Dark souls combat works fucking great, so why not? You usually do that, you mention an isntance of something well done to compare it to a poor product.

And ffs, stop with the binary differences, just because I don't like the 1-2 hits bullshit doesn't mean I'm advocating for 500 hits combos.

>The counter attack isn't even fucking unavoidable, just roll away if they block (since you're apparently unable to stop yourself from mashing attack in the first place)

Oh fuck off. You just fucking confirmed you don't even remember how the shit worked.

You're thinking on the fucking counter from TW3, not TW2.

In TW2, it's literally unavoidable, and it doesn't even have a special animation, the enemy simply attacks on the very milisecond he blocks the hit, so he ALWAYS hits you because he interrupts his own fucking blocking animation to make an attack

>>379725604
>Oh fuck off. You just fucking confirmed you don't even remember how the shit worked.
>
>You're thinking on the fucking counter from TW3, not TW2.
Believe what you want, feel free to try and find a video where the guy attacks in the moment he blocks your hit with no window for rolling away, because what actually happens is that he gets staggered a bit when he parries your hit
>Dark souls combat works fucking great, so why not? You usually do that, you mention an isntance of something well done to compare it to a poor product.
But it's a fundamentally flawed comparison because Witcher 2 plays evry differently and is not supposed to be anything like DaS

>>379717301
You can just skip them all. Atleast the english translations are very poor and mostly seem like grimms fairy tales with shittier fantasy twist and a cast of poorly written ridiculous characters. Ive heard the original and russian translations are good and retain the folktale feeling and make them a lot more comfier read... unfortunately i can comprehend neither polish or russian so i gave up after 3,5 books... the quality doesnt improve.

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>>379718052
I just started the last one after Triss stops shitting herself its ciriciriciriciriciriciriciriciriciriciriciriciriciriciri
Regis and Zoltan are bros but seriously about 80% is just Ciri moping and murdering around and the rest is Geralt moping and being an ass to his friends that are way more forgiving with him than he deserves.
Now that I wrote it out I think these books have ruined all the main characters for me... I don't even want to replay the games after this like I planned to

>>379697320
2 is so fucking boring compared to 1

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>>379715068
I found the Witcher 3 on it's own was full of great stuff. On one hand, you had characters like the Strengers, the entire concept about Witchers, and a literal witch-hunt and war going on, and on the other hand, you had scenes like the Drunk Witchers in Kaer Morhen.

It seems that the Witcher Games have always had that smidge of humor to them

>>379728994
Well yeah, Witcher has always had loads of humor
Even in the books, it seems like Sapkowski's approach to dialog is "if you can't make it sarcastic and snarky, leave it out"

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>>379721832
Not sure what you're talking about, Witcher 3 had some great stuff to it. Mostly Bloody Baron, the Entirety of Heart of Stone, and the Wight quest in Blood and Wine.

But i'm also a sucker for characters like Gaunter

>>379697320
>People trying to play Witcher 1 as if it's Dark Souls

STOP!

It's based on the same game engine as Neverwinter Nights. It's a fucking point and click game. Panoramic camera with point and click is the only way to enjoy it.

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>>379728994
>"Summon the bitches!"

Am I the only one who couldn't get into Witcher 3 because the combat is so basic and faceroll easy?

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>>379730182
I played it on the 2nd tier of difficulty because I wanted a challenge, yet I was also rusty like fuck playing vidya, got my fair share of difficulty. Maybe play it on a higher difficulty?

>>379724565
So explain why Planescape: Torment is considered one of the best RPGs ever made, despite having combat that is universally described as mediocre at best?

>>379726142

Not that guy but you're wrong.
They do cancel their block animation and immediately hit you while you're in the middle of the animation
Source: I'm playing the game right now and this shit has always bothered me

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>>379697320
I would but there is literally nothing wrong in your post.

>>379697423
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>>379726142
All this fucking time wasted on a faggot who didn't even remember the game he was adamantly defending.

Go fucking replay the game if you don't believe me that they cancel their block and immediately attack you while you're swinging

>>379735489
so roll away to cancel your own animation
ggez

>>379697839
Three has better atmosphere when you take off your nostalgia goggles

The combat in 2 was just bizarre. Why can you not move while blocking? Why does blocking one hit take a full 50% of your stamina for the first few levels? Why does the Witcher have damage bleed through his block but the fat drunk soldier doesnt? You were basically forced to play like this https://youtu.be/RYnFIRc0k6E?t=61