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It's coming.
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>>379692609
>Open Ground

There_was_an_attempt.flac
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>>379692609
>5
>not 0
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>>379692609
>open ground reconnaissance endeavors

hahah what in the actual fuck
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>>379692609
what is this
why are you doing this
quit playing games with my heart
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>>379693782
I'M AN OGRE
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Has there actually been any discussion on what the connection would be between Bridges, that web star and Del Toro's character? I remember that the Bridges badge he was wearing also had a web-like motif.
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>>379693782
Open Ground Reconnaissance Endeavors
OGRE
Project OGRE?
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>>379692609
if it's MGSV where is Big Boss or Snake?
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>>379694087
In a jar.
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>>379694087
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They aren't going to make the third entry of the MGSV trilogy a PS exclusive when the previous two entries were just released as multiplats. Anyone who believes OP is a fucking idiot.

Death Stranding is Silent Hills.
TPP has one more ending where we revisit Camp Omega.
The real MGS5 has not yet been released.
Kojima was never fired.
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>>379696020
Why must you tease me like this.

Do you know how much I want this to be true? It'll only hurt more when E3 comes around and all we get is some shitty MGS survive footage.
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>>379696020
They aren't going to make a GC remake for the first game, MGS is a playstation franchise
Oh wait....
They aren't going to make a GBA MGS
Oh wait....
They aren't going to make a 3rd MGS be exclusive to PS
Oh wait...
They aren't going to make a 4th MGS exclusive
Oh wait....
Okay, they won't make a MGS for a portable system and then have a spin-off on the main console
Oh wait...

Do you see what i'm getting at here? Konami isn't known for smart decisions, and that's only the MGS stuff because Idc about MG
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>>379692609
What day and time in E3 will it be?
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>>379696020
Caramel, buddy, hombre,
Let it go
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>>379696465
sony´s conference probably
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>>379696773

they said they wont attend e3
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STRANDING
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>>379696847
they said that last year as well, but the date they gave for this year is next wednesday
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>>379696396
>They aren't going to make a GBA MGS
phew
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>>379696847
>>379696914
also, kojima said IN THE SAME FUCKING TWEET that he would be there with dorito pope, why taking a 12+ hour flight just to suffer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc0EzLc7NZg
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>>379692609

any day now
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>>379697116
because he gets off to directors and movie stars
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>>379696773
Which will be what day and time?
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>>379696020
You do know that you clearly have mental issues, right ?
What will you do when it won't be announced, seriously ? When you'll realize that your whole fan theory is just wind and MGS5 was just rushed because of budget reason ?

Being that much in denial is dangerous, man. I'm afraid you'll just kill yourself out of despair when your dreams will fall apart, teared down by the harsh reality of things.

tl;dr see a psychiatrist, mate.
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>>379696396
It was a remake you epic baboon. It wasn't adding anything to the story. GBA MGS is not canon. The second game was originally an exclusive, why wouldn't 3 be? The first three games were exclusives, why wouldn't the 4th be? The previous 4 games were exclusives, why wouldn't PW be?

With V the series became multiplat. And now you have the V trilogy which is all multiplat. Learn how the real world works, kiddo.
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Ok so how does Wonder Woman fit into this?
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>Anybody buying any MGS game after the abortion that was mGSV
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>>379696020
you still haven't killed yourself yet? be sure to stream it when nothing happens at E3.
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>>379697885
Then following your logic.

Is this third part coming to PS3/X360?
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>>379692729
>>379693782
it could have easily been what we got. they changed it relatively late.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxOEvMTZKf8
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>>379698669
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>>379698669
ill bite for the sake of discussion. what conference, sony?
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>>379698797
this leak was eventually confirmed by being the first public appearance of the diamond dogs logo.
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>>379698836
this is old, from MGSV development.
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>>379698797
>>379698871
I think this is fake but it's almost convincing.

Completely falls into what I'm saying and BTFOs all the idiots who think Zero is a good guy who did nothing wrong. Alluding to the war between Zero and Big Boss. I want this to be real.
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>>379696020
Yeah, Konami has halted practically all AAA development and sabotaged their own reputation for the sake of this "ruse", right?
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>>379698247
>caramel doesn't answer this
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>>379698967
Learn the facts, kiddo. When rumors dropped claiming they were moving away from triple AAA game development in favor of mobile gaming and Pachinko they made an official statement denying it.

What now, little boy.
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>>379698960
Those leaked 5 years ago, you idiot. You got on the ruse cruse late and now can't get off
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>>379698797
>>379698871
>eventually confirmed
You don't know shit. This "leaked" ""trailer"" was just before GZ announcement.
Pic related is from hiring site 6 months before first proper GZ announcement/trailer.
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>>379699057
Then where are these AAA games? It's been 2 years since this debacle and they don't have jack shit.
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>>379699061
I was always on the ruse cruise you epic baboon.
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>>379699075
the blood drop gives it away as real and an earlier design, why would someone trying to make a fake leak add that detail
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>>379699220
All the more reason why the ruse cruise is real you fucking idiot. It was an official statement, you gonna bring out the "they cant lie to their investors because it's illegal" excuse? Because that statement, combined with the usual investor bullshit you people complain about does nothing but prove the ruse is on.
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>>379699230
But you weren't aware of the first mgsv leaks there ever were?
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>>379699220
Good quality games take time to make you impatient turd
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>>379699278
I will literally kill myself and have my brother upload the webm if your "leak" is legit. That's how sure I am you're full of shit.
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>>379699230
>I was always a juvenile who desperately wanted to preserve the excitement and hype of a new MGS game forever
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>>379699278
There is no ruse. It's time to move on and suck it up.
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>>379699250
>why would someone trying to make a fake leak add that detail
To make it look more edgy, duh. The """"trailer"""" looks way too different from everything MGSV related. Especially since Kojima considers PW MGS5, TPP is MGSV for a reason and font is completely different.
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>Kojima's trailers are so good and his game so shit that they drive people insane
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>>379696906
ON THE EDGE
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>>379699220
>>379699278
>>379699391
dont kys anon
caramel is right
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-12-18-konami-is-hiring-for-a-new-metal-gear
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>>379698960
>I think this is fake but it's almost convincing

>>379699230
>I was always there

Which one is it then?
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Caramel if you start backpedaling now you will lose the respect of even your most diehard fans.
Keep the flag flying until the end of the Sony press conference.
If you were full of shit all along you can just fade out.
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>>379698247
caramel answer this
>>379699278
Are they going to release an xbox 360 game in 2018?
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>>379699393
underrated
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>>379699652
Is this the metal gear to surpass the metal gear?
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>>379699746
Potentially but they don't have to.
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>>379699652
IIRC wasn't the word "Kojima" found in the source of that page?
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>>379699683
I've never backpedaled you fucking moron.
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>>379699664
It was the only leak out of 4 that got shot down by Konami and Kojima themselves. For all we know, it might be real.
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>>379699652
>metal gear survive
>kojima game
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>>379699842
This might have some more info
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thfKq71cNZM
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>>379692609
>First ruse cruise, chapter 3 is coming
>2nd ruse cruise, Death stranding is PT
>3rd ruse cruise, new picture is actually MGS the boss prequel'
Just stop.
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>>379699652
>>379699881
Good memory.
It wasn't only "kojima" in that page.

https://web.archive.org/web/20151218000921/http://www.konami.co.jp/en/job/career/spe/mgs_en.php
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Wolbachia
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>>379700246
Male to female.
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WHO THE FUCK IS THIS CARAMEL KEK? A YOUTUBE GUY OR WHAT?
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How is this dumbass not fucking banned yet?
Do they have to blanket ban MGS and DS threads? Do they have to make threads with the term 'ruse' auto not bump?
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>>379700386
give a man his two days to live
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>>379700368
Copulation
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>>379700382
Schizophrenia
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Cant wait for your suicide stream, Caramel!
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>>379698669
>>379698797
>>379698871
Kojima showed the DD logo before this fake bullshit.
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Pay no attention to the WW2 iconography in DS and PT, purely a coincidence, means nothing at all.
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>>379700442
>implying kojima productions aren't announcing metal gear silent 6: death stranding at TGS
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>>379696020
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>>379700650
>metal gear silent 6: death stranding
This franchise soup needs to stop. Kojima needs to be detained!
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>>379700629
There's no WWII stuff in PT
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>>379699278
Why do you want this so badly?
Why another fucking Metal Gear?

Does Death Stranding not look interesting enough on its own that you have to go through the most ridiculous shit to connect it back to MGS and post about ruses every day?
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>>379692609
What's with /v/ and wanting more sequels?
DO YOU SERIOUSLY WANT YET ANOTHER METAL GEAR GAME, ANOTHER HAMFISTED NUCLEAR THREAT AND ANOTHER METAL GEAR? FUCK YOU
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>>379700386
If Death Stranding is not Silent Hills we get to bully Caramel until she cries.
If Death Stranding is Metal Gear Solid 5 Caramel will become a punchline we enjoy for years.
If Caramel was right all along I think we need to apologize, but there is only a 20% chance of that happening so enjoy the ride.
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>>379700629
>people aren't allowed to be influenced by the most significant event in living history
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>>379698049
I was really surprised by how good that movie was. Could've done without Snyder's influence, making everything grey and adding slow mo in every action scene, but Dianna was qt as fuck.
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>>379700810
hey fuck you buddy.
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>>379700804
they just want more trailers of their epic angry big boss on his knees screaming while dadrock plays
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>>379700804
If Kojima delivered a satisfying experience with TPP I would allow him to move on. He owes us a conclusion.
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You guys are beyond retarded. You are the diaper fetishists of /v/.
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Fuck Kojima.

The fucking MGSV Red Band and New Order trailers were pure evil cynic deception. Fuck that gook, I hope DS flops and he goes under and gets exposed for the nigger hack he is.
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>>379700931
Your mom gay.
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NEVER
EVER
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>>379700918
this
any straight man in this thread can agree
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>>379700918
Why are you using a trip and spamming, when it's irrelevant to the thread?
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>>379700931
imagine the shitstorm
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>>379700856
>>379700935
>>379700918

>I can't say goodbye to yesterday, my friend. I keep holding on till the end
You fags deserved MGSV
I'm so glad that it wasn't the fanservice- filled Gray Fox fan wank that you wanted and that it fucked with you heads.

I also can't wait for Death Stranding to be another game like MGSV, so I can enjoy all the MGSfag butthurt on /v/.
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>>379701146
what games do you like anon
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>WORDS THAT KILL
>think it's some super clever metaphor
>it's literally a language that kills
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>>379700815
>>>>>SHE
Caramel is a GIRL??
I'm all in on the ruse cruise if it means she'll post her feet.
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>>379700918
Except it wasn't satisfying, it was a game that did not need to exist, it was a sub-par open world game with a facebook tier mini game on it, denied even a proper ending, or a real boss fight besides the Metal Gear, not even allowed to fight Volgin for real or Skull Face, with a disgustingly obvious cop out reason why 'to simulate the emptiness of revenge' or some bullshit like that.
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WHY WAS IT CALLED METAL GEAR "V" AND NOT "5"

THIS IS THE ONLY THING THAT STILL MAKES ME HOPEFUL TO THIS DAY
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>>379701221
LoL and nothing else.
Every other game in the last decade is shit
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>>379692609

MGSV already exists, right? Am I missing something or are MGS fans going nuts?
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>>379701221
Good games.
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>>379701296
Because it was a spin off, not related to the main line story, and starred Venom Snake.

Pretty fuckin simple.
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calling it now, death stranding will be a soft reboot of the MGS franchise
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>>379701273
dont worry bro i got you
i got caramel's feet saved from the last thread
spoilered for lewdity
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>>379701273
she is cinammon roll and must be protected from /v/irgins willing her death
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>>379701327
It's a REAL METAL GEAR FAN thing.
Basically, they couldn't cope with the fact that MGSV wasn't the epic child killing, puppy murdering, 100% edgy nuclear power revenge fantasy so they lie to themselves that the game was complete shit despite enjoying the first 50 hours or so (everyone was in love with the game during the first few days) and that it's somehow a fake game, not the "real" MGS5.

It's pathetic and shows how fucking mentally retarded fanboys are.
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>>379701296
because V = Venom, Vengeance
Kojima already said he considers Peace Walker to be MGS5
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>>379701296
Because, like Peace Walker, it was a canon non numbered entry that is optional.
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>>379700583
>preggo
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>>379701371
>soft reboot
Shut the fuck up, stop using that fucking retarded phrase.
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>>379701371
>MGS franchise
fuck no, I want a new IP
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WE'LL BREED DIAMONDS FROM THEIR ASSES
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>>379700583
>Preggo
If only you knew how bad things really are.
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>>379701094
>>379701146
Caramel don't give a fuck about a bunch of kiddos spamming their threads on 4chan. When the truth is revealed everyone will love Caramel more than ever before for daring to along with an artist's vision. His arguments and evidence have done nothing but improve since Kojima was "fired". The controversy was spread using rumors and second hand sources. The truth will be spread using the biggest gaming imageboard in the world.
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>>379692609
>Open Ground Reconnaissance Endeavors
my belly hurts
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Just a reminder that even if, and its a pretty big if, all this is true, MGSV being made to be disappointing on purpose, the delisting of PT, the pointless drama, being made to pay full price for what amounts to a demo (Ground Zeroes) and a functional prototype third draft (MGSV) in a massive, pointless false flag operation over a VIDEO GAME, and then making a SH game that is so different and alien it might as well be its own IP, but given the SH label for brand recognition, is all incredibly scummy, dishonest, and absolutely pointless, and Konami and even Kojima should not be encouraged or praised for all this retardation
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>>379701273
caramel is a girl(male).

Also goes by the name FIB.
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>>379701975
This, it's just a fucking video game
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>>379702007
they are different persons retard
unless you're implying he's fighting himself in threads
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>>379701916
Like I said, it fucked with your heads so hard that you lost it.
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>>379702037
He does
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>>379699393
Caramel BTFO
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>>379701975
We're not praising Kojima here!
The true hero is Caramel, the man who redpilled /v/!
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>>379702037
Caramel's first posts were using FiB's tripcode
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>>379702150
when did fib have a tripcode
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>>379702037
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>>379702048
>clearly his first ruse cruise thread
>this confident about his position already
why do you anti-rusefags even bother to post?
you haven't seen the one thrillion coincidences that made this seem plausible, your opinions on the matter are valueless
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>>379700629
Sucide stream soon crazy boy
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>>379701727
Death Stranding is going to bridge the Silent Hill and Metal Gear universes together. It is the big bang that created both universes. I have much more to share, but I'm feeling stingy and want others to work for it. All the information is hiding in plain sight. Much like the fact that Venom WASN'T Big Boss. /v/ didn't believe it, even though it was pointed out to them over and over. I may feel more inclined to post more later.
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>>379696020
They dont give a single fuck, that just best ad ever made, to give beta/demo to pcbros and release THE game on consoles only.
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>>379702037
>he's fighting himself in threads

Anon, caramel is fucked in the head, enough to fight anyone who doesn't believe him.
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>>379696020
Have you thought about seeing a doctor? that or suicide stream, both are good.
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>>379702382
>all the information hiding in plain sight
have you seen all the fucking theories coming out of peoples asses the last fucking months? I bet we have already made plots and new mgs games kojimbo-san wouldnt dream of
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>>379702323
>first ruse cruise thread
>projecting this hard
kill yourself
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>>379700173
Oh shit, that is actually pretty convincing.
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>>379702613
>replying to pasta
>i'm not new I swear
you entered this thread by diagnosing anons with some retarded form of psychosis you invented, fuck off
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>>379699278
SOMEONE SCREEN CAP EVERYTHING THIS DELUDED ARMCHAIR BANDIT POSTS
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>>379702529
I'm not speaking about theories. I'm speaking about official information. You can believe me or not. I want others to work at it. Mirror and Bridges are your clues for now. They are pretty big hand tippers. Have fun.
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I wish it was real. If only for the webwide reactions if Kojima's firing was just part of some plan.
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>>379700918
>I won't allow him
>Owes us

I want a real MGS5 as much as all of us, but you sound like an overentitled faggot who needs to go out in the real world and put in a day's worth of work for once in his life
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>>379700173
this fucking stupid nip is up to something
FUCK
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>>379702815
Do you want us to mirror both of the bridges images? we already mirrored them to oblivion, kiddo
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>>379693782
his post has layers anon
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>>379703078
SOME
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Check in no later than 1745 PDT (GMT-7) June 12 2017. Have your mic sorted out. This could get sticky.
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It all begins when Kojima was promoted to Konami's vice president. (2011).

https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/33453009593831424
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>>379703715
NINTENDO WINS BABY
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MASTER RUSEMAN LUL BrokeBack Kappa
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>>379703042
No. Apply the new information to the old. The new Bridges image is just another clever tie. I'll give you two more words. Heaven and infinity. These clues are MORE than generous, and I think I'll leave it at that.
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>>379703757
do the dates coincide?
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Kojima was actually Kamiya the whole time.
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>>379701271
>SINS OF THE FATHER
>he's not the father
>he didn't sin
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METAL GEAR SOLID 5: SILENT HILLS: DEATH STRANDING: SURVIVE
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>>379700810
Yes, BB is awesome!
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>>379696020
>MGSV trilogy
>Ground Zeroes is a glorified demo
>trilogy
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>>379703857
Death is not the end.
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>>379697116
Death Stranding not being showcased at E3 ≠ Kojima not giving an interview on fucking anything
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Kojima was found dead back in 2011 but he was replaced by another yellow cunt.
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>>379704460
>Dorito Pope also slipped up in when being interviewed about how he got involved in the Moby Dick ruse when he said Kojima approached him and told him he wanted to do MGSV in 3 parts (Ground Zeroes, Phantom Pain, so what's Part 3).
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>>379700173
this is konami's homepage, you wouldn't even know they make videogames by looking at it
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>>379704651
Something like this is so comically feasible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddy7drYvFq4
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>Death Stranding trailer #1 takes place on Deception Island

>tfw i'll keep coming
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>>379704764
>pre-release ideas always transfer over to finish products
mmmmm
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>>379704651
No that was hideo, kojima is still with us but he locked all game development away to honor hideo's wishes.
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>>379704817
http://theplanetd.com/deception_island_antarctica/
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>>379704764
Wow, it's almost like MGSV wasn't even finalized yet.
GRRM initially said A Song of Ice and Fire was going to be a trilogy, yet here we are, 5 books later waiting for the 6th and 7th.
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>>379704806
What does this have to do with what I presented?
Nothing.
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>>379705310
the ruse is konami don't make games anymore
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>>379704806
thats not their homepage retard
why would you lie like that
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>>379705382
Delusional.
59 hours.
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>>379704817
>>379705000
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>>379696020
dur dur copy pasta
It's sad that people like you exist in this world
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>>379693782
SOMEBODY ONCE TOLD ME
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>>379698871
>>379698797
>>379698669
>bloodstained earth
>3 years later konami twitter says this
>KJP says they're on earth on Twitter
Uh oh
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>>379704806
Thats Konami's gaming website. You dumb fuck that page it's all about gambling.
https://www.gaming.konami.com/Games/GamesCatalog.aspx

THIS is the main Konami's homepage
https://www.konami.com/
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>>379705612
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>379704764
The game takes place in three timelines though.

Past : 1974 - Ground Zeroes
Past : 1984 - The Phantom Pain
Present : 198? - 1995 - The Bathroom scenes
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Why is there a V-log that's still confidential? it's been 2 years...

https://www.konami.com/mg/mgs5/tpp/jp/vlog/index.php
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>>379705612
HOLY SHIT
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>>379704817
>>379705000
>>379705514
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>>379705612
I don't get it.
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>>379705778
1974
1984
1986
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>>379705812
And where is the lvl 15 equipment?
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>>379698797
>zero
Zero is the big bad, supposed to be enemies with Big Boss, they were supposed to have a war, yet in MGSV they're both best buds, Zero is the nicest person in the series, saving Boss form the helicopter crash and nursing him back to health. Zero, the big bad and sworn enemy of Big Boss, a villain known for INFORMATION CONTROL is suddenly the series hero.
>and so began the war between zero and big boss
>their absolute reverence for her drove them apart
>in the end they became bitter enemies as the zero from which they both started was split into two

>>379705612
>>379698871
>there was nothing left of the boss's noble will in their struggle, all that remained was hatred, a passion to destroy one another
It's happening.
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>>379705905
KJP's location is earth
Ludens (Norman) is shown in a trailer planting a flag on the moon
Konami responds, "Moon? Everything looks red from here"
>The earth is blood stained and covered in Red; including the atmosphere
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>>379692609

Holy shit. You guys are fucking mental.

Kojima is gone. The only way he's been able to leave MGS is by being FIRED from the company that owns the rights to the franchise. Come the fuck on. He hasn't been involved in anything that isn't MGS for almost 2 decades. (besides that Castlevania game)

It's time to let go.
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>>379706091
>earth covered in red
WE EVANGELION NOW
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>>379706254
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Metal Gear Survive = Metal Gear Five
They will have a presentation for Survive at Sony E3, it's directly tied into the metal gear lore and continued from MGSV.
Major characters from the series will appear in the game, Kojima cannot go because when people see the new trailer for Survive they'll surely bombard Kojima with questions
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>>379693765
You know what? Looking back, they should've called Snake Eater "Metal Gear Zero" or "Metal Gear Solid 0"

>takes place before 1, could be considered chronologically as entry number zero
>the main mech of the game predates first metal gears and could be seen as a prototype, or model zero
>obviously Major Zero
>story can be seen as a "ground zero" of sorts for Big Boss, as a starting point for his tragedy
>no chronologically confusing fuckery
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>>379706345
>Metal Gear Five

But there have only been 2 Metal Gear games.
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>>379704764
>>379705778
Actually, that is not what he said.
https://youtu.be/YSw6hu-K8QA?t=1h54m39s

When is "Now"?
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>>379704817
>those pools of lava
>antarctic volcanic caldera
>deltoro and ito are collaborators and huge lovecraft fans
>deltoro wanted to make at the mountians of madness movie
>tentacles everywhere
>death stranding is a kojima lovecraft game
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>>379706461
Q4 2018, date of its release (before akira's year 2019 and before Olympics 2020)

I don't know who's J or Norman's characters in mgs; but something happened in 1998 which makes that letter more sensible
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>>379699934
>that subtle horn
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where the fuck is the last vlog you fucking nips
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>>379706598
I think it might be Kojima trying to do his own thing.

Besides, he enjoys reality too much to have any chance of doing Lovecraft justice.
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>>379706702
Death Stranding is Silent Hills moron. They aren't going to make the third entry of the MGSV trilogy a PS exclusive when the previous two entries were just released as multiplats.
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>>379706842
Disarmament prob
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>>379706835
You're imagining things.
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>>379706942
I agree it's a SH game but the characters are mgs. It's literally a SH game down to the gameplay but with mgs characters
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>MGS IS DEATH STRANDING
>NONONO DEATH STRANDING IS SILENT HILLS


can you faggots get your consistency right?
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>>379706942
But DS is not a full time Sony's exclusive. Just 18 months it's confirmed.
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imagine being so mentally ill that you actually believe a doctor who has spent his whole life publishing medical journals, reporting other mentally ill """RUSE CRUISERS"""" to his local police, that a beloved company did near irreparable just for viral marketing for a video game
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>>379706086
>Zero is the big bad, supposed to be enemies with Big Boss, they were supposed to have a war, yet in MGSV they're both best buds, Zero is the nicest person in the series, saving Boss form the helicopter crash and nursing him back to health. Zero, the big bad and sworn enemy of Big Boss, a villain known for INFORMATION CONTROL is suddenly the series hero.
You don't like it when retconned reveals cause plot twists that spin the story in a way you didn't predict?

>there was nothing left of the boss's noble will in their struggle, all that remained was hatred, a passion to destroy one another
Wew lad, it's almost like it isn't an unrelated third party speaking that had no idea what was actually going on in their heads.
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>>379706942
>they aren't going to make the next Silent Hill a PS exclusive when previous entries were released as multiplats
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>>379707172
b-b-but the bananas and the incredibly popular 80's song
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>>379707148
>Just 18 months it's confirmed.
No the him but sauce pls
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>>379706702
I wasn't talking about release dates, but when is the third part supposed to take place according to Geoff's outlandish statement.

>>379706835
Sorry, I'm pretty sure nobody on that helicopter ever got a shrapnel lodged in their head.
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>>379707175
>Wew lad, it's almost like it isn't an unrelated third party speaking that had no idea what was actually going on in their heads.
Except Big Boss himself says
>after all is said and done i cant help but wonder...did zero really hate me? or did he just fear me? it's too late to ask him now
Nice try, kiddo.

>>379707251
There's a difference between a story heavy series getting a new entry, which was split into three different games, only releasing it's third game as an exclusive, and Silent Hill, which is practically an anthology in it's story format which hasn't had a new entry in 5 years.
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>>379707415
Keep moving goalposts, faggot
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>you were born at the perfect time to watch caramel and/or fib end themselves on-stream
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so is sutherland gonna voice big boss in mgs5?
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So if nothing happens this shit stops here? no more ruse?
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>>379707687
fib has done this multiple times, so no.
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>>379707251
CaramelFIB is a retarded tranny but he does have a point here.

Silent Hills was essentially a reboot of a franchise mutilated by Konami outsourcing the development to underpaid Somalian Devs who code for food.

A hypothetical third part in the MGSV "trilogy" would be a closely intertwined, back to back sequel to the previous installments. Locking out a major part of the audience from experiencing the finale of the miniseries would be extremely poor form.
Keep in mind, this isn't an argument for an AAA PS360 release in 2018/9, but rather for letting the project rot.
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>>379707687
If only, the faggot will disappear for a few monthshopefully then start this shit all over again under a different name
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>>379707629
I hope so his voice fits perfectly from here and on if Konami wanna make another MGS featuring Big Boss they should hire Sutherland.
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>>379707415
>did zero really hate me?
And while it's a tragedy that BB never got to know, we, the players learn that no, Zero didn't hate him, quite the opposite in fact.

Admit that your salty that your headcanon got BTFO and you perform spectacular mental gymnastics and jump through impressive hoops to make yourself believe that you get a game that'll "fix" it
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>>379707761
for what purpose?
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MGS5 will be a remake of both MG1 and 2.
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>>379707990
mentally ill trannys love attention
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>>379707970
Except the first question Boss would have when waking up is "why am i still alive" and "why is there a body double of me". What now, autist?
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>>379692609

After playing chapter 2 I couldn't give less of a fuck..
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i don't believe all the bullshit about MGSV, but is death stranding its own game or is it silent hills in disguise?
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>>379708063
I'm afraid of Kojima's own security with crazed fans like he(r).
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Can't wait to see this Caramel autist get btfo.
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>>379707970
>And while it's a tragedy that BB never got to know
In TPP's separate canon, Big Boss is aware of Zero's plan and agrees to proceed with it. "Zero" animosity.
In the actual MGS series canon, Big Boss never has a moment of "peace" with Zero after 1974.
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>>379708178
How retarded are you, you mutilated, literally dickless faggot?
That's literally what Boss asked, but by the point when he woke up, Zero was already a potato.
It seeded doubt in him and since He never got a chance for a heart to heart with Zero, the uncertainty tore at him until he An Hero'ed at Arlington.

It's supposed to be a tragedy not a black and white story, you colossal faggot
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>>379708870
Yes but he would certainly know Zero did not hate him because Zero saved his life and was even nice enough to create a fake double to draw his enemies off him.
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>>379697116
Because Kojima is a westaboo
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>all this baseless speculation

stop it /v/! you're just gonna get hurt again!
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>>379709260
Kojima knows what is good. He knows that all the Asian stuff is crap.
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>>379708975
>you and your BFF have a fallout, due to your opposing ideologies, your beef escalates and you're sure the muthafucka hates your guts.
>In his final act, your old BFF does something that's completely opposite of what you'd expect and saves your ungrateful ass. He's dead now btw.
>...
>Did he REALLY hate me? He ded now, so i can't just ask... How did he really feel about me? was it all... just completely pointless? i'm sad.

it's as simple as that, nigger.
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>>379709623
But he didn't hate him because he saved his life and created a fake body double to distract his enemies.
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>>379709623
>>379708870
Baseless conjecture.
>Because of this, Zero went into hiding, relaying his orders only via proxies (with the sole exception of one agent) and renamed both himself and his organization as "Cipher." By the time of 1974, both Solid and Liquid Snake had been used as an insurance policy by the Patriots, rechristened "Cipher," regarding Big Boss turning against them, which Kazuhira Miller had some awareness of.

This is why Big Boss didn't know if Zero feared or hated him.
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>>379710078
If Ocelot knew Zero was bedridden then Big Boss would know.
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>>379709784
you're being too literal, human beings are not binary 0/1's.
Big Boss was sure that Zero hated him through all these years, but with that final, confusing act, John no longer had any idea about how the fuck Zero really felt about him.

It confused him and since Zero was brain dead, there was no way to get a straight answer out of him - he couldn't just sit down and talk it out with him, and so could never know for sure if he fucked up and Zero actually was a Bro, or was just a "Fuck You" to Skull Face - an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" scenario.
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>>379710608
>autist doesn't understand how humans are
Not surprising
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>>379710608
Except for the fact Zero rescued him from the crash and created a fake double to distract his enemies. There in no confusion when someone does that, that person clearly likes you.
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>>379710178
Let's not account for all the contradictions within the truth tapes.
TPP is a bunch of bullshit and the only reason it stands up to any scrutiny is because it's really, really, REALLY supposed to be the last game in the series.
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>>379706390
or you know... you could just not be autistic about and realize its the third game in the franchise
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>>379710812
>Something something ulterior motives
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>>379711072
Not an argument.
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>>379710812
Or that you, being the best soldier evah, have the best chance of utterly fucking the guy who brain-fried your benefactor, the fact that the faceless sonuvabitch greatly wronged you as well, greatly increasing the chances that you'll go after his crispy ass.
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If any of the ruse bullshit were true, what are the chances of someone not having leaked information about it to the media by now? There's no chance they could keep something so huge under wraps. There would at least be rumors of it going around, but there isn't outside of the autistic rambling by some people on here.
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>>379711235
>LEE ROOSE GUYS U R DUM U DON'T SEE IT is an argument though
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can someone give me a quick rundown on caramel and fib? What's the difference between them and which one is a transexual?
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>>379711317
I'm providing actual evidence, arguments and citing things that actually happen in the games. You're just spouting epic greentext meme responses.

>>379711239
Boss does not give a fuck about Venom, listen to the "truth" tapes.
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Who is more retarded: Caramel or FFXV-kun?
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>>379699230
>epic baboon.
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>>379711428
Point it out to me, where i said anything about Venom.
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>>379711428
No you're not spergo. This is you
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>>379711428
Shut up.
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>>379711428
Keep the good fight alive.
Only thing stopping you, is you.
Just make sense when you post.
I believe you.
Maybe more than I should.
Anyways, even if youre wrong its all very convincing.
Shill or not youve definitely gor a great grasp of the world.
Also, im pretty sure that youve made some people nervous.
I am for e3!
Dont know if itll all come true or not.
Still, it doesnt matter.
Til its over, ill believe.
Or, maybe its all a ruse.
Probably not.
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>>379711235
It's an argument concerning your idea that Zero did what he did under the assumption that it was out of the good in his heart and a nice goy.
Someone as manipulative as Zero doesn't do things like that out of kindness.
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>>379711357
They are the same person
>From FOX, two faggots were born
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>>379712727
>Someone as manipulative as Zero doesn't do things like that out of kindness.
Except he did if you take TPP's shitshow of a narrative as canon.
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>>379711437
caramel

xv-kun was just in denial about a game that was a long time coming while C-man over here is making up fairytales
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>>379712853
>something something misinformation
You're starting to eat your own tail, oroborus.
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Just read through this whole thread. Really good stuff.

I just want to let everyone know that the ruse isn't just Kojima's thing. Nor Konami's. Nor is it just a video game thing.

The Ruse is a multimedia event involving everyone from David Lynch to Adam Reed to Andrew Hussie to Hideo Kojima to... David Bowie.

Death is not the end, right, anon?

Your entertainment is lying to you, guys. Things you thought happened in fictional worlds these past two years didn't happen like you thought they did. A handful of things you thought happened in real life didn't happen like you think they did.

Everything is a lie.

Just remember you read this when the "alternate realities" start to metaphorically collide with our own.
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>>379706091
>Norman is shown putting a flag on the moon

He was clearly under water.
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>>379701271
>the greatest parasite to ever exist isnt microbial, its linguistic
>there's literally a language parasite
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>>379701271
It is both, the vocal cord parasite is a metaphor for colonialism and how language shapes your thought process, eventually killing your original language and thought process
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This is the only true mystery with hard evidence. This is what we should be paying attention to.
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>>379713686
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>>379714259
>yong's screencap
lmao get out yong
there'd no "d"
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>>379714259
I can´t see the letter in the fourth pannel, which one is it?
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>>379714809

It is supposedly an O in Del Taco's hair. I can kind of see it, but I can't be certain.
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>>379696020
https://youtu.be/0kO27HpFDHk
The ruse cruise ends in 1 day
No matter what caramel, I won't get off
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>>379714898
I'm going to get off...I'm going to get off hard when Carafag is completely and utterly BTFO. Going to cum buckets
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>>379714259
WHATS UP EVERYBODY
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>>379692609
I guess OP never worked in a huge corporation.
>a guy not even in a higher echelon of hierarchy convinces president to play in his reatrded bait
>president willingly accepts to ruin a fucking image of a company
>this alone leads to loss of investors
>do a market exit closing huge shit of studios and firing whole workforce
>this all just for LeEpicRuse xD that brings no fucking benefits to a company
Phantom Pain ruse was close to borderline, but it didn't have any affect on company itself (was just waste of resources but at least for good marketing). What this imbecile says is on the other hand total insanity out if our reality.
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>>379714898
That was beautiful, anon. Outstanding work.
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>>379692609
another 5?
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>>379694686
>implying that's not the Ocelot baby they cut out of The Boss
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>>379715484
The modern school system fails to mention to kids that 99% of human endavours are meant to earn money, they are taught that everything is some sort of gay artistic statement which fucks with their perception of reality.
Of course there is a "ruse" in the sense that there's obviously some legal shit being worked on behind the scenes by lawyers, and of course it looks mysterious because in japan they keep this shit under wraps. There is a similar situation between gainax and studio khara but nobody assumes it's some sort of evangelion viral marketing, it's just lawyers arguing over money and rights
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>>379698960
>I want this to be real.
Okay, now fuck off
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>>379711567
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>>379715484
LOL their name gets everywhere, their company is on everyone's mouth and you're saying it's a bad decision if they actually went on this ruise:
1 - if it's actually mgs, it will be the most sold mgs ever, for sure
2 - Konami would never lose it's investors, they make enough money with pachinkos etc
3 - Konami owns the Kojima Productions business name which KOJIMA "started" LULZ this one is so obvious it's stupid how people don't see it or go blind and just ignore it

all of those > are not valid to not make this ruse valid.
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>>379716248
>lets make our long time fans hate us by pretending to fire a long time employee just for viral marketing
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>>379715646
What're you going to do if it's not happening? Just answer a question and don't be a fag
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>>379716521
>viral marketing which will sell this 'new' game

I think you're the one who doesn't understand business cuck, I did study it, this is a good decision.
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>>379716647
put your trip back on, Caramel
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>>379716647
>I did study it, this is a good decision.
Is this the true nature of american education? Fucking kek
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>>379716248
No fucking company would do something as risky as ruin a whole image in order to promote a future product. Viral marketing is most extreme and risky marketing strategy because it can backfire double as strong and is very hard to foresee. That's why every fucking marketing team does so much prognosis and analysis before greenlighting a compaign.
Your way of thinking "yeah they can make more money from one product!" is retarded and juvenile considering for how long Konami remained it's status quo by relying on established products and production ways.
>tl;dr somebody never took even a basic micro-/macroeconomics class
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>>379715484
>Disco Brando
>all these typos
Now that I'm done making fun of you, let me refute your stupid complaints.
1.Kojima always had Konami eating at the palm of his hand. There isn't one retarded scheme they denied him.(except blood smell on the CD of Snatcher)
2.Their image is only affected in the video game side of business, where they haven't delivered one title of either franchise since the "scandal". Once the curtain goes off, any game project can be safely revealed/released with maximum fan approval.
3.Business has been better than ever.
4.The Kojima Productions LA studio is still owned by them, MGO team being employed by contract for one project only.
5.This insane marketing stunt will have Kojima and Konami's names on everybody's lips for months to come.
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>>379716893
I'm not even caramel, I'm a dude who sees good business decisions made by Konami.
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>>379717038
CaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramelCaramel put your trip back on you fucking tranny
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>>379692609
If another MGS game gets released and it sells well, my faith in the gaming community will be gone for good.
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>>379706598
Don't play with my feelings
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Fuck off caramel
you're gonna get btfo the fuck out
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How far until Caramel says he was only pretending and he fooled us all while being completely dead inside for following his non existent white whale for over a year?
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>>379717556
54 hours and change
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>>379699061
>>379698960

Why does caramel always embarass himself whenever he leaves his copy pasted narrative? it's fucking great. Anybody that believes this idiot, genuinely, and not just for fun, is dumb
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>>379716647
>I did study it
>stydied marketing yet spends a whole year on Chinese cartoon site describing retarded business practices in great detail and answering to every fucking insult
Sorry Caramel, even Tod lies better.
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>>379717235
Survive is going to sell like crazy, I can promise you all those #fuckkonami faggots dont have the self control to not get it once those paid reviews start coming in with the 9-10s
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>>379696020
Didn't they say Death Stranding is also coming to PC?
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Has Caramel said what he'll do if all of his bullshit doesn't come to, or is he still dodging that question like usual?
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>>379718075
Yes but that was before Sony bought him.
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>>379718086
He's probably gonna say it's totally coming out in the next mass gamer event and how we're all SO gonna get btfo.
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>>379713845
Fuck, I forgot about that.
The first time I heard that line I thought we were going to get a really interesting, philosophical Metal Gear game again.
NOPE.
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there's a big 2000 (you) bet going on against caramel if he's gonna be btfo at e3 or not, I can't wait to cash it in with the rest of /v/
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>>379717085
well you're right, ditching videogames, firing Kojima and investing in pachinko machines was a very good business decision
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>>379718086
We are going to bully her until she cries.
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>>379718086
Nope. he dodges that question like Gearbox dodges money
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>>379718086
he's just gonna say it's coming in TGS instead.
he did it last E3 too
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>>379718391
>her
caramel is a female(male) you stupid idiot
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>>379706159
hey fuck you buddy
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>>379697885
>The first three games were exclusives
they weren't tho
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How autistic must you be spend DAYS spreading some retarfed theory that has no backing facts for free?
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>>379706842
>036
>0
>3
>6
>increasing in increments of 3
>036 instead of just 36
>3 characters means third game

>0 makes it 3 characters
>zero "made" 3 characters
>solid/liquid/solidus
>boss/big boss/imposter boss

Inb4 autism
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>>379718650
MGS1 PC port was released 2 years after the console release.
X-Box version of MGS2 wasn't released until one year afterwards.

Get fucked, kiddo.
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>>379719012
So what?
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>>379696020
Eat shit you cuck
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>>379717106
I'm not Caramel though?
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It's about time, people.
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>>379719108
So you argument was destroyed.
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>>379719373
No it wasn't. They are not exclusives, contrary to what you claimed. You might as well claim RE4 is a Gamecube exclusive because the PS2 version came later.
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>>379719524
It was still released in the same year, kiddo.
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>>379719626
>it's an exclusive if it doesn't release on the same year
Bahahaha, is GTAV a console exclusive too? Dipshit.
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Okay, for just a second stop thinking if it's stupid or not, but do you WANT it to be real? Or would another MGS be just beating a dead horse after V?
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>>379719626
>>379719909
Why don't you two have a breather?
The crux of the argument is DS cannot be anything other than PS4 exclusive due to pic related. With this in mind, it wouldn't make sense being anything other than a continuation of PT.

In other news ruselads, take a look at when this video was published.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcaMw4aCz4c
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>>379719969
Because people are expecting it to flush TPP down the non-canon drain and explain what the hell really happened in that helicopter.
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>>379706086
>Zero is the big bad.
And, every single other MGS villain has had some kind of sad humanizing moment that redeems them or at least makes them a little less evil
>Fox Hound were all war orphans
>Dead Cell were all used by the goverment in horrible ways and only wanted to help Solidus
>Solidus did nothing wrong
>Ocelot did it all for Bossu and to stop the A.I.
>Iva is Solid's mom and helps a bunch of war orphans.
>The Beuty and the Beast were all just poor war orphans too.
>Paz was actually pure and would have stayed with MSF despite acting fucking up everything and being a huge cunt
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>>379720052
Helldivers was another Sony Interactive Entertainment game that got released on PC.
That isn't the trump card you think it is.
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>>379720052
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>>379720252
>>379720365
I really don't have a horse in this race. It's good news to hear.
I think DS has an sizable amount of Silent Hill and Metal Gear connections, Metal Gear gaining the edge considering it takes place in WW2 and Kojima expressed interest in a WW2 Boss game
>I had several ideas for a game featuring The Boss and the Cobra Unit during the invasion of Normandy. I then handed these plans over to the team so they could take over and make the game. I presented my ideas to the team during the summer of 2008. However, simply dropping MGS5 on the younger staff members was a bit heavy and there was resistance to doing it without my involvement.
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>a military-industrial-complez suit stealing a c-section baby in ww2 normandy while a bloody-eyed soldier controls the dead in a river

you realize this is literally how the metal gear timeline begins
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>>379721334
uhmm no, it starts in the first world war
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>>379721334
The military industrial complex didn't exist until after Kennedy took office
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>>379721334
>In June of 1944, the Cobras and I took part
in the landing at Normandy.
>We'd been given a top secret mission to locate and
destroy enemy V2 rocket installations.
>I was pregnant at the time. The Sorrow
was the father. I gave birth on the field of battle.
>A beautiful baby boy...
>but my child was snatched away from me by the Philosophers.
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>>379721507
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>people still this it's going to be a new MGS
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>>379721507
grenades predate jesus. there has been a correlation between the production and application of a nation's arms for-fucking-ever.
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>>379711437
xv-kun by far, I don't believe any of this shit the tripfag has to say though
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When are we getting new footage?
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>>379721507
nigger the mic was the reason eisenhower resigned.
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>>379722686
literally wrong
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>>379720205
Solidus chose the wrong methods. His way would have resulted in countless tragedies. Snake, Otacon and Sunny managed to achieve a victory with comparatively minimal damage.

The problem with Big Boss, Liquid and Solidus is that, regardless of their intentions, the only methods they could think of to achieve their ends would have resulted in massive damage to society and wide-scale conflict. Snake, on the other hand, tried to do most of the dirty work himself while leaving the world as intact as possible.

Out of all the Snakes, he was the only one who wanted to bring about peace. Even if he knew he would have no place in such a world, he still put aside his personal interests in order to cause as little harm to the world as possible. This is why he succeeded where the others failed.
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>>379703715
I'd buy a Ghost Babel remake.
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There had better be Survive footage at E3.
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The time nears, Caramel.
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GUYS GUYS GUYS

what if..

Silent Hills IS Metal Gear and Metal Gear IS Silent Hills
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>>379696020
Fuck off you paid shill
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>fish dead on beach
>fish alive in the skies
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>>379696020

It will be fun to watch your mental brakedown after you are proven wrong again.

Looking foward to that more than E3 itself.
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>>379723693
really makes me think
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>>379723693
Really Kojim's my bo's.
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>>379692609
IT'S HAPPENING
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>>379700856
I think you got the wrong door
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>>379724115
HOLY SHIT CHECK TWITTER
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>>379704817
>>379705000
>>379705514
>>379705904
>deception island
>DECEPTION ISLAND
kojima kaminandesu... kojima kaminandesu, indeed
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TURN ON CNN
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>>379716997
You don't even need to take classes to understand something so obvious, people who unironically believe in this have problems
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>>379724404
OH SHIT ADAM WEST IS DEAD
wait what does that have to do with anything
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>>379724465
Adam was Ocelot's codename.
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>>379724465
Please don't joke about that.
AW is my spirit animal.
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>>379716997
remember when they changed their twitter bio to "we're already demons"? what was that about?
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>>379724748
he's actually dead. sorry.
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>>379701221
>posting on /v/
>actually liking video games.

Kill yourself anon.
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>>379697116
He is coming to fuck his fuck boys in America.
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>>379723693
>rainbows upside down
>umbilical cords in all fish and sea life kill them, umbilical cords in all undead soldiers bring them to life.
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>>379724860
Oh my fucking god.
No.
NÒOOOOOOOO!!
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>>379725006
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>>379713845
this shit made me trigger so much
MGSV is the biggest disappointment i had in my entire life, yes, my life is so shit i got disappointment from a videogame.
I watched the red band trailer and trailer and I felt things that to this day I can't explain, even though I never played an MGS game before... so I decided to play the games before MGSV comes out, and I loved them, I had to wait a year until MGSV came out, in that entire year,I fucking swear, everyday of that year I thought about MGS atleast once, I watched the trailers almost everyday.
Weeks before the release, I thought I should lower my expectations, and I did, mostly gameplay-wise, but still expected the plot to be great. I still can't believe what we got.
I wish I could live stuck in a loop of the week before the MGSV release.
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The obvious problem with the whole Death Stranding is MGSV theory is that they're not using the Fox Engine. If Konami was secretly making MGS6 with Kojima, they wouldn't just abandon the Fox Engine, something that took years to make, is well optimized, and fits everything Kojima would need in an engine.

It's only been used in like 2 games, they spent millions of dollars on it, Kojima wouldn't abandon it unless he had to. Now they're on the Horizon Zero Dawn engine.
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>>379725318
>kojima location scouting DS with his normandy twitter posts as far back as 2014
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>>379725367
they're using decima engine which is one of the first engines that can co-run with another engine.(citation needed)
as far as i can tell, decima and fox engine might as well be the same thing.
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>>379722795
>the only methods they could think of to achieve their ends would have resulted in massive damage to society and wide-scale conflict

The alternative was 1984 with undying machines. At least megalomaniacal warlords like Big Boss are mortal humans.
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>>379725006
is this from a youtube video or something? got a link?
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>>379725670
>>379705514
This Decima logo is reminding me of the Moby Dick logo = Scandinavia thing.
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We need a second holocaust for rusefags.
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>>379725867
check bottom left corner.
The videos by pythonselkan that caramel just regurgitates.
Watch their newest video first imho
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didn't caramel say something was supposed to happen on the first day of e3? or did he mean the first public day?
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>>379725975
>he doesn't know about ultragames, or any of other konami owned front companies they used to make games for nintendo back in the 80s.
>he thinks they can't do it again.

>>379726128
he said there was a scheduled update of the mgsv servers/hacked nuke removal during the sony conference
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>>379725367
I imagine he wants to use it for cinematic purposes. Fox engine probably can't make as good looking visuals in 4k.

Doesn't mean MGS5 would HAVE to use Decima
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>>379726091
PythonSelkan does a good job of gathering evidence on Kojima not being fired but his story analysis is garbage. He's never once brought up the ceiling fans or the fact we have conclusive proof the helicopter definitively did not crash.
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>>379696020
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>>379707087
Death Stranding is Silent Hills but Konami has nohing to do with it, Kojima just rewrote the whole thing just enough to not get sued by Konami.
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>>379726421
i never understood what that pic is trying to tell
am i being memed?
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I can't believe you retards keep feeding this Caramel retard attention.
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>>379726421
I like the crash angle, but I'm not feeling the ceiling fans yet.

>>379726629
You're going to feel really silly in the next few days. Somethings going on and everyone might be wrong about what's happening, but it's going to happen.
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>>379693782
This is more cringe inducing than when those trannies were trying to convince everyone about "Super Mario: Switcheroo" at the nintendo conference in march.
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>>379705514
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>>379694058
>>379726783

What was this project ogre shit that was going around a few months ago? Wasn't it kojima related? Project troll a bit to on the nose for this project?
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>>379727114
Project Ogre is coming to an end. We were the ogres for flipping out on Konami.
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>>379725957
Deception + Kojima = Decima
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Caramel, when will we be returning to camp omega?
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>>379727553
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA GET ME OUT
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>>379727572
not him, but disable the nukes.
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Ashamed of words and deeds.
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>>379727553
holy...
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>>379727757
>not him
I'm aware
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>>379727553
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>>379727553
shit like this keeps me believing
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>>379727553
>you feel it too, dont you?
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>deception island was whaling port that became a ww2 military base
>its shaped like the decima logo
>its the site of a whale graveyard

>>379727553
yeah, pretty close! kojima has said the name is actually reference to dejima, an artificial island where international trade took place. (mostly with dutch) it was the only way for insular edo-period japan to do business outside of its borders. also a key whaling port.
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>>379728137
I was called pythonselkan, fib and caramel yesterday, figured I should make it clear before the samefagging accusations start flying again.

I still don't know if caramel is FIB. I could believe it since they "both" don't post at the same time in any threads irc
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>>379727553
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>>379727553
>kojima went back in time to 17th century japan to rename a fishing port to maintain his ruse
holy fuck
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>>379728543
>artificial island where international trade took place. (mostly with dutch) it was the only way for insular edo-period japan to do business outside of its borders. also a key whaling port.

>artificial studio
>business outside its borders.
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>>379726584
I think it means that the chopper from Groudn Zeroes is the same in Phantom Pain right down to the number.
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>>379728543
>>379728885
>artificial island
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>>379728885
pssst. Hey kid.
Over here.
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>>379729134
>artificial
>art ificial
>art
>something Kojima can't create
wtf
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>>379729154
cough.
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Don't believe Phantom Kojima's lies.
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>>379729340
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>379729154
>>379729340
Yes faggot we watched Pythonselkan's new video.
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>>379729154
>>379729340
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>>379729472
But did you remember to like and subscribe? Shares also help if you would like to see more content
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genuine question....

What did they mean by this?
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>>379725318
Was the flaming whale and horse ever explained?
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Is there a fanbase more cancerous than MGS fans? And I say that as a massive MGS fan.

spending a year and a half whining that the game you got wasn't full of fanfic style fanservice and answering all your questions like a star wars prequel, so it must be awful, and refusing to let the creator move on with new IP and new projects and spending your deluded days connecting numbers as *proof* that there's a new MGS

What the fuck would be the purpose of a new Metal Gear? It's over. Every story has been told.
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>Metal Gear Solid 5 Origin exclusive.
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>>379730448
Kojima thought they were cool and then he forgot he established a theme that early in the game
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>>379731092
They are really cool, but are they just an hallucination or a bug in the matrix?
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>>379731003
>Is there a fanbase more cancerous than MGS fans?
MGS fans may be chainsmoking conspiracy theorists, but at least they aren't bronies or MineCon attendees.
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>>379730448
from what i can tell, the flaming whale was made by mantis while tapped into venom's mind (he has the horn when we see the whale). it's the "moby dick" to venom's "ahab" and his obsession over the guilt about not saving paz from exploding outside the chopper. the same guilt that leads him to hallucinating her alive later in the game.

can't really explain the horse with confidence tho. anyone else take a crack at it?
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>>379731003
There's still MGR2.
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>>379730448
Don't ask the questions that Kojima don't wants you to ask.
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>>379731331
volgins bottom would burn the horse if he sat on it otherwise.
>insert peta outcry
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>>379731254
If it was either they should have showed up throughout the game not just in the first half hour for a fox engine demo
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>>379731003
This has always been the case, its just now with social media everyone thinks they're entitled to have some authority on how a story is supposed to go. I remember being like 14 when MGS2 came out and people sperging on gamefaqs because raiden was an abomination because raiden shouldn't have been in the game.
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>>379731003
we're just having some fun, faggot.
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>>379731949
the tripfag spammers aren't
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Everyone in this topic, except for Caramel, is just pretending to be retarded, right?
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>>379731949
Let kojima move on, for fucks sakes
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>>379731949
Fuck that. You faggots insult and put down anybody that doesn't agree with you and refuse to put up with any debate other than just insulting people.
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>>379731949
Remember when people deluded themselves for years thinking that Hayter was gonna play Big Boss in GZ and that Kojima was just rusing again?
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>>379732296
kojima is up to something, that much is for certain
the magnitude and nature of the ruse is the question
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>Our game is still far from being released but the "game" has already begun.
- Kojima
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>>379732254
im having fun, kys

>>379732296
see >>379732512
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>>379732350
no, everything is a ruse. every shirt he wears, every person he's excited about meeting, every band he likes, every company he will ever work with again, it's all part of a big grand scheme to sell metal gear games. forever.
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>>379727553
The Island is named DEJIMA originally
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>>379732350
hes can do whatever the fuck he wants, you retard. I just like posting: "THE RUSE IS REAL" in threads because I like the theories, even if they aren't true. The very nature of the theories are very metal gear like, so it's easy to enjoy them. Fuck off.
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>>379732437
kojima was completely justified though, we weren't big boss at all. Why would medic have the same voice as hayter?
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Friendly reminder that Venom Snake never cared nor was ever attracted in any way to Quiet.
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>>379731003
>One falling out with a game company that was confirmed to be shitty from the inside out has caused 3 years of false rumors about the future of a Dead Series that ended on a sour not because of Budget issues and a bunch promises that fell through.

I don't even know what these fucktards expect. Even if it was MGS6 or some kind of Chapter 3. Would you want it after 3 years of bullshit from both konami and kojima? Not even half life fags have been this disillusioned by their rumors of Episode 3.

No amount of hype can justify this bullshit. Just let it go.
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>>379733187
except they kept the japanese voice actor.
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>>379733004
Dejeption + Kojima = Dejima
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>>379733441
maybe they couldn't find a suitable replacement?
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>mfw Dejeption + Kojima + Metal + Gear + Stranding = Dejekojimegearstranding.
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>>379733441
delete this
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>>379732512
Its just Kojima doing his same old tired "ruse" shit where he says one thing and does another just to create hype. Im sure at this point Kojima knows everyone thinks hes a ruse master, so hes playing off it to generate hype. I wouldn't be surprised if he actually started to add MGS hints in his trailers just to create more hype amongst the rusecruise fags, when in fact the actual ruse ends up being tricking people into thinking its still MGS when its not.
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>>379733656
if that were the case (which I highly doubt considering the absolutely massive VA industry in japan with plenty of baritone fellows that could do the job) then they wouldn't have gone forward with this ''plan'' of yours and leave it half-assed with only the english version changing VAs.
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>>379733554
>>379733554
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
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>>379733187

Big Boss also has Kiefer's voice in Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain, not just the medic.
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>>379734561
>this plan of yours
I only implied that it was justified for kojima to do it, and suggested a reason why the jap voice actor was the same. I'm only speculating here.
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>>379732437
Goddamn, people were so fucking stupid about this shit.

>All those hopes that the game was going to end with Hayter reprising the voice for Solid for an ending that flows into Metal Gear 1. Despite Hayter being vocally upset about not being asked to play Snake.
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Caramel is a tranny? Is there pics?
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>>379730448
Flaming horse can be associated to mythology creature NIGHTMARE.
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After Moby Dick and 7780s, Kojima knew that the only way people would think "this can't be a ruse" is if they think it -CAN'T- be a ruse.

The coverage (both via gaming news and social media) has been absolutely unheard of considering that all Kojima had to do, outside of continuing to work on his games as usual, was to NOT attend an awards ceremony and to make two trailers that he loves to make anyway. This has been an incredible cost-effective marketing strategy.

Their media consultants should be proud of themselves. (Pic related.)
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>>379733187
But the Real Boss was voiced by Sutherland as well in V.
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>>379696197
Why do you want this to be true? Can somebody explain me this please? Why would anyone want Death Stranding to be just another MGS and not a completely unique game? Just imagine open world survival horror with organic/old gods dimensional environments where soldiers from each era of humankind converge and the basic things you know and take for granted are twisted. Or imagine something else because the possibilities are limitless when it's not constrained by MGS. And this is coming from a big fan of MGS.
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>>379736419
>This has been an incredible cost-effective marketing strategy.

I'm at a loss for words at this point.
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>>379736432
>>379735907
reeeeeeeeeee
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>>379730448
parasites
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>>379736732
Because, there's nothing better than pigeon holing a narrative to cater to my inability to move on from things. How will I be able to complain about how the game is an abomination compared to the original games if it isn't named mgs??? TELL ME
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>>379736786
That's great news.
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>>379736034
Obviously they were trying to make it seem like it was BB, you saying that Kojima's ''justified'' implies that he did it on purpose as part of his plan to trick people, yet he didn't do it for the japanese version.

In other words he changed voice actors simply because he liked Kiefer more and his big succesful tv/movie star status over Hayter's loser ass.
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>>379737913
is that the sony guy with the weird voice?
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>>379738273
can't complain there, I would take keifer over hayters performance.
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>>379738273
He changed voice actors because the American VA would be the one playing Snake in the MGS film. You can thank Avi Arad for helping Kojima find the best man for the job.
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>>379739921
this is what I was thinking.
Isn't there a rumor of the movie trailer being shown with geoff and kojima next week?
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>>379725352
Are you me?
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>>379737728
But seriously though I want DS to succeed and to be a great game, because the visuals and music (this original electronic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEYfhzyX7OA not that Ludvig vocal bullshit) used in the second trailer are exactly my taste. There is nothing I would change about it, nothing and that's why I am hyped and I don't want it to be another MGS.
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>>379742065
much better chance that DS is SH than mgs
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Saw this when watching Carrie the other day. How far back does the ruse go?!
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>>379742320
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>>379740965
there can't be a movie trailer if the film doesn't even have a screenwriter
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>>379742320
SH or MGS, I don't care. The point is I want DS to be original game, not a continuation of established rules.
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>>379698049
Isn't that hand holding the sword wrong?
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>>379729041
An oversight like that does look suspicious but maybe it's just that, an oversight. What about the ceiling fans, what's special about them?
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>>379745334
look up Korean fan death
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>>379745334
Neither of the fans actually appear in-game. They only appear in the pre-game title menu and the Shining Lights cutscene.

It's the same fan model, too.

It's kind of weird for a creator obsessed with the minute details.
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>>379715945
or a solrid snake clone??
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>>379692609
>it's literally OGRE
kek
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>>379745959
kek this is hilarious
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>>379745976
The fans not appearing in-game is supposed to imply something? First thing that comes to mind is simply that they were added there for that sick "cinematography". A bit weird they didn't patch them in later but again, might simply be an oversight.
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>>379746689
OGRE is usually just a translation of Japanese "ONI" which are horned demons.
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>>379745976
>It's kind of weird for a creator obsessed with the minute details.
Not really.

>>379747106
Caramels saying iirc, ceiling fans aren't in mgs at all except in vr simulations etc. He's implying that those scenes aren't "real"
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At this point these threads are about some turbosperg's fanfiction and everyone telling him how he's wrong, as if he gives a shit.
You disgust me, /v/. Goodbye forever.
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>>379747641
I could be butchering that though. Idk he might be here again sooner or later.
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I don't buy this ruse stuff at all BUT: Death Stranding is obviously recycling the ideas that were Silent Hills, so in a way it IS Silent Hills. Plus since it seems to deal with parallel/multi-universes or something like that so we'll probably get a Metal Gear easter egg, where something from it's Universe intersects with Death Stranding's or vice-versa.
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>>379747106
>fan has 3 blades
>solid liquid solidus
>chapter 3
>gz/tpp/mgs5
>boss/big boss/venom boss

Theres a pattern of 3s
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>>379748364
then you are buying the ruse since "sh is canceled!! never ever!"
I could see it being "Silent Hills: Death Stranding"
We are going to have to wait a year to know any better though.
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>>379747734
See you tomorrow faggot
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>>379747641
>ceiling fans aren't in mgs at all except in vr simulations etc. He's implying that those scenes aren't "real"
That could actually be pretty neat if it were true. It could make the whole situation interesting if instead of a crash we had Zero kidnap Big Boss and stick him in VR.. for reasons. A couple of ceiling fans is way too little to support theories like that though.
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>>379749136
exactly. I wouldn't bet on anything if the fans are the only evidence. He's got a boner for them pretty bad though.
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>>379748778
No I don't mean it's literally Silent Hills: Death Stranding, Silent Hills is dead. I just think Konami had already copyrighted the name or something but it was in early stages of development anyway so all the ideas meant for Silent Hills just got a new coat of paint and Death Stranding was born.
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>>379747106
I dunno what they'd even be implying. Seems like a weird detail to use to imply the unreality of the scenes they're in, like some folks seem to think.

On the other hand, Kojima had Snake's eyes adjust to darkness, programmed physics for ice cubes melting, all kinds of weird shit.
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>>379749709
>programmed physics for ice cubes melting
What
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>>379749580
I understand what you meant.
I think it's still possible that
>>379729154
>>379729340
might be related though.
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>>379749939
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o2WdpOOGMaY
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I love these threads
Shame they only happen maybe three times per year when something big is happening.
I need more insane theories about other games.
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>>379710880
except it's not. canonically it's the fifth produced game in the saga.
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>>379750402
after DS comes out it's going to be non-stop for weeks.
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>>379750286
Huh, that's pretty cool. Still, in current gen it's more difficult to account for every single detail since there are so many and thus oversights are more probable to happen.
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>>379723313
Underrated post
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>>379750879
I would agree, except that putting ceiling fans center view of the camera for cinematic effect... and not having them present in-game literally a moment before and a moment after... seems like quite the oversight to me.
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