Is it really that good?

No. It's really too simple compared to the 'mainline' Souls games and doesn't offer much over them. The combat only encourages reflexively iframing through everything at every opportunity.

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K I N O
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Setpieces, music, bosses, enemies, atmosphere, it's all amazing. Replayability does not exist, build variety is horrid, and muh 24 fps.

>>379684257
No.

It wanted to an action game but brought with it too many legacy features from the RPG games which it then streamlined to be basically meaningless. In the end it's not good at being either.

>>379684257

https://youtu.be/7RzA_Oomra8?t=139

the musical score is brilliant despite anything

>>379684257
Its the pinnacle of the souls formula and shows how good it works when you scrap some of the "mandatory" RPG elements fags love so much.

It has the best gameplay, the best mechanics, the best world design, the two best bosses, best extra content, etc.

It's about as good as any other entry in the soulsborne series, which is pretty damn good
definitely didn't feel the need to replay as much as I did in DaS1 though

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>>379684834
>The two best bosses

Whom

>>379685410
Not him but Ludwig and Gherman are usually pretty high on people's lists. Personally I thought Gherman was too easy to parry but the boss area and music are great I suppose.

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>>379684592
>>379684475

>2017
>still mad as fuck

>>379684257
It's good, but it's not THAT good, ie. doesn't warrant buying a system for. Also suffers from frame-pacing issues and the CA may be a bit harsh for some.

It's too hard, I struggled with the first beast boss and gave up on father gascoine

>>379684257
yes, it's sickdark as fuck. just play it

>>379685576
>Personally I thought Gherman was too easy to parry
I understand that you have the right to play in any style that you desire, but I would suggest not parrying if you think that is an issue.

>>379684257
It has some of the greatest atmosphere and level design in gaming. Not just in this generation, but ever. There's so much to discover and the lore is amazing. It's the only game to do what Lovecraft was trying to do right in a video game medium. If not for a few technical issues, this game would be the perfect action game. However, I'll just be content with giving it a 10/10.

>>379684257
>tfw started playing yesterday
>tfw stuck at the street where there's a lot of witch hunter-looking dudes
I tried going to the stair to disperse them but 2 fuckers attacked me from behind. How do I fucking git gud? Can you ask for help online?

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>>379684257
There's a reason why good Bloodborne discussion occurs every single day on /v/.

>>379687270
If starting out, don't be afraid to kite enemies. Also, know what your starting weapon does best.

>>379684257
No actually. It's a fine game but if you go in with huge expectations you'll end up very underwhelmed.

Eh. It's basically DS3 but during the renaissance.

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>>379684257
With the DLC added it's the best game between the modern FromSoft ARPGs.

So yes. It is really that good.

>>379687270
Do you need help? Just ring the Beckoning Bell, which consumes 1 insight (you acquire insight by encountering/beating bosses and through items called Madman's Knowledge). You can get the Beckoning Bell in the Hunter's Dream, and you can also buy a Small Resonant Bell to get summoned into other people's games to earn insight.

It sounds like you might need to get slightly farther to do that, though. I would suggest running past enemies if you really are unable to fight them, as you will be able to better outfit yourself shortly. Barring that I could always just give you my PSN and you could summon me.

>>379687270
literally just play the game, dude

Yes it is good. Once you are used to the fast combat, it is hard to go back to Dark Souls.

>>379687270
The very beginning of the game, right?

Listen, just remember enemy placement and try only engaging 1-4 at a time. Remember where some are supposed to come from behind and kill those after you kill any the walk directly towards you. Be willing to retreat to where you came in from if you're getting swarmed, and they might even be easier to deal with when they're chasing you down a narrow corridor.

Once you get to the VERY large group you can use pebbles to draw them out one at a time. If you aggro the ones with guns then just draw the melee ones out of their line of fire and kill them there.

No matter how bad shit gets keep playing. It's fine to ask for help, but try to keep spoilers at a minimum if possible. This game is a fucking experience. Happy huntin' you little fucker.

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>>379687349
What weapon do you recommend for beginners? I never played any Souls game so I'm pretty much a babby in this type of game. I'm using that saw-looking weapon right now.
>>379687346
How does one even get pass through this?

>>379687580
>trying to play DS2 after Bloodborne

>>379687639
>What weapon do you recommend for beginners?
Spin2win axe
Or cleaver if you want to learn the game and not rely on a crutch.

>>379687639
The Cleaver and Ax are usually recommended. The Cane isn't bad once you put skill into it, but it doesn't pack the early game punch of the cleaver or the ax. Ax if you're planning on strength, cleaver can be good for quality.

If you're rocking the cleaver you're honestly set, its one of the best weapons in the game.

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>>379684257
BB is the only soulsborne game I've played. I consider it to be like the modern-day 3D equivalent to Castlevania SOTN, but with much better role playing elements and difficulty. Then it adds great multiplayer options on top of that. And I was a massive SOTN fan back in the day

>>379687639
>What weapon do you recommend for beginners? I never played any Souls game so I'm pretty much a babby in this type of game. I'm using that saw-looking weapon right now.
Most people say the Axe is the best. Ironically the literally only weapon I used turned out to be the supposed worst starting weapon. The cane. I fucking love the cane. I don't care if it's supposed to be bad, I always made it work. Fuck what they say, we're partners, and we are each other's strength.

>How does one even get pass through this?
The only way I can see that situation in the webm happening is if he had already been up there to aggro them in the first place.

>>379687867
The cane isn't bad, it just takes a bit to pay off. Once you're at about +10 with 40 Skill, you're in business.

>>379686934
You can do it if you just grind a bit. I got the game in 2016 and I quit really early but I came back to it this year and I can do it fine now.

>>379687224
I mean with everything we've seen since like 30 years ago you have to admit that this guy is basically speaking the truth.

>>379687924
I guess most people don't seem to realize this. I just always stuck with it and it always served its purpose well. That style was the only one for me.

>>379687561
I guess I'll just try and try again until I managed to find out how to get through this. I want to finish the game solo as much as possible so that I can see how much I progressed and got better when I finished this. Thanks for the help!
>>379687590
Yeah,I managed to disperse them now but the dog fucking got my ass. How tight is the i-frames on this game? I play monhun and I can somehow iframe some attacks without evasion skill.
>>379687684
>>379687734
I'm using cleaver so I guess I'm good to go. I might as well try other weapons and see which one is the most compatible for me.

>>379684257
I bought it and dropped it right after I got to the Cathedral Ward. Should've saw it coming because I hate Souls games.

>>379688147
You just need to get into the rhythm of the dodge. You just fall into it eventually.

However if you lose your cool and start panic dodging you are VERY likely to die.

>>379684257

No. It's Souls for normies.

stop giving people advice. all you have to do is play the game and you WILL get the hang of it eventually. there is no special technique that will help you more than trial and error

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>>379688243
Aight,rolling out of the attack is still the effective tactic right?
>>379688321
>tfw not a normie
>tfw still suck at the game

>>379688197
Fags aren't allowed on this board

>>379684257
Yes.

>>379684257
It's good but overrated as fuck. Console warriors like to ignore its faults.

>>379684257
I'm considering getting it but am put off buy ho hard everyone says it is. Is there an easier mode?

I don't really care about combat in games so as a result am not particularly good at it.

>>379684552
I've replayed it at least a dozen times, so can't really agree about it having no replayability

>>379684550
Can someone explain this meme to me? Is this something that originates from one of those "im such a nerd xxxddd" cringeworthy american comedies?

>>379688718
lurk more

>>379688489
Yes, dodging is the way to go. Some attacks you should dodge into, not away from. Don't question it.

Also, locking on gives you a different and more efficient dodge than when you aren't. You probably already know this, but you used "rolling" instead of just "dodging" or "dashing" so there you go.

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>>379684257
Yup.

The trick weapon mechanic is pretty neat, the bosses all have pretty great themes. Some of the bosses will make you tear your hair out, but overall still fun enough to play through at least once.

>>379685576
Gherman wasn't shit compared to Ludwig, or Laurence, or Orphan, or even Maria. At his hardest moment he was sorta a blend between Gascoigne and Logarius in his melee form. He was still a pretty enjoyable fight even if he was parry bait.

I fell for the meme but I'm not really finding the appeal, this is the very definition of reddit core shit to me. Edge lord game with "hard" difficulty for aspie reddit users to brag about their l337 gayman skills and 2deep4u anime nonsense storyline. Instead the game is very easy and exploitable, and even if you're too dumb to exploit it, you can still grind like in every other weeb memegame such as Persona 5. Music is also either non existant or generic 2spooky cinematic style orchestral trash, the graphics are a brown and bloom mess that runs at unstable 30fps unless you buy the PS4pro.

>>379685410
Ludwig and the Orphan of Kos

>>379684257
I prefer DS1 desu, I'm a pussy and I like playing slowly but this kind of playstyle means getting through Bloodborne is a pain in ass.

>>379689335
*Kosm

>>379687580
Even Dark Souls 3 combat looks stiff by comparison. I always heard great things about DS combat. Probably made a mistake starting with BB, seems like it'll have spoiled the rest of the Souls games for me.

>>379689439
Get the fuck out

>>379684552
I really don't like BB's music. It's very samey for the whole game and that's a real problem when you consider how much money they had and that they had an entire orchestra to do this.

Almost any boss track can be swapped with another, and the only real good track (which use fully the orchestra and gets movie vibes) is Gehrman's one.

It's sad, but I think that Yuka Kitamura did a better job by herself when it comes to give a boss a personality through music with her pitiful virtual orchestra and her shitty organs (which are awful in tracks like Yhorm's) than with an entire orchestra and shitlords specialized in orchestras.

Living Failures was a good proof of it. They copied Holz's Mars for the first part because AYYLMAOs. I consider that as disrespect for the video game audience.

>>379689458
DS combat is about being patient and exploiting movement
BB combat is about being aggressive and exploiting movement
Both are great.

>>379688631
There's git gud mode where you die enough to the point where you get frustrated enough to walk away, or motivated enough to learn the rhythm of combat in it and become untouchable.

>>379684834
Also a fucked balance which relies on hidden defense stats which make low level playthroughs a living hell, shitty procedural chalices which shouldn't even be in the game, a meh level design when you get out of Yarhnam that only gets good again with the dlc, bad diversity with the trick weapons because only 4-5 weapons have truly unique movesets while the other weapons have either a buff form or reuse other movesets (like the sword moveset which is use by ludwig's sword, the hammer.) . Bosses have poor movesets to be somewhat fair and have 5 moves for most.

Get real anon, BB has flaws it shouldn't have.

>asking /v/ their opinion on good games

This whole board is just a meme, 100% of its userbase is contrarian edgy redditors or literal children (or both).

>>379684257
it's decent, a solid 6.5 /10

>>379684257
>ctrl-f "no"
>166 results

>>379684257
Yes. And I avoided it for 2 years because I thought it was going to be overrated so I stuck with DaS series for a while until last August I caved in
>amazing atmosphere with Victorian Goth/Lovecraftian horror absolutely perfect
>limited but fun weapons
>original, fun and difficult bosses
>challenging side material like Chalice dungeons which are very difficult when you reach the latter stages
>great soundtrack that's admittedly underutilized outside of bosses
>The Doll is easily waifu tier like MiB
>combat is different enough to differentiate itself from the DaS series
>great memes like KOS or some say KOSM
This game really does live up to its hype.

>>379691329
Right off the bat you should have noticed that every single post has 2 "no"s in "Anonymous" and before the post number.

>>379689262
(you) tried

>>379684257
It's hard that's why I don't wanna buy it.
>after 3 years
>I can't defeat the gargoyles in the first DS

So Why I can expect from BB? die in the menu screen?

>>379691781
Bloodborne seemed to be the easiest for me.

>>379691781
You just need to become proficient at using the given control inputs to progress beyond the game's obstacles

it's only that good if you're both interested in and capable of interpreting the lore

for gameplay alone it's a good game but there are better games out there

pretty good aesthetics tho

>>379691781
But anon, the gargoyles are easier than Capra Demon.

>>379684257
I only liked two games on this gen so far.
Bloodborne on PS4, Dishonored 2 on PC.
If you like to explore a World with great level-design and deep background, if you like action and challenge, replay-value, this game's for you.

Not to

>>379684834
You're a fucking idiot.

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POST HUNTERS

Go replay BB right now and get the Amygdalan arm as early as possible.

Thank me later.

Last time I got the beastclaw + rune as early as possible and it was the most fun play through I ever had. Awoooo

>>379692057
>Not to
mention one of the best OST in a decade.

Bloodborne really is that good. It executes everything perfectly, is a joy to play and has a transcendental atmosphere.

Expect it to feature on top x video games lists forever more. Expect /v/ to saltpost and false flag until this message board falls to the chatbot incursion.

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>hear the qt doll say "may you find your worth in the waking world"
>remember Im a failure
I cant be the only one, r-right?

>>379684257
Best aesthetics, worst gameplay.
From couldn't figure out how to make the game difficult so they took what made DS1 good and threw it out the window by putting enemies in areas that no amount of cautiousness can avoid.
The "hard" bosses are only hard because they're designed in a way that they can't be countered, or so aggressive that you can never land a hit on them. The recover system is an awful substitute for defense too during boss fights, since you never really get a window to benefit from it, meaning the fights are basically back to playing like the souls games, but now you have no way of protecting yourself.

>>379692336
t. never learned to parry or how to use iframes properly.

>>379692281
>Not farming for levels using your friend's relatives.

If you're fucking stuck then grind, dumbass.

GOTY 2015.
>that feel when I start the game
>load game
>have three different characters, best gems and runes
>heavy melee, 2fast4u bowblade and tentacle rape arcane

>>379692281
>play against the living failures
>beat them first try because i know how a living failure is like

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>>379684257
>>379692149
This.

Yes it is.
-Orignal setting (nothing exhausted like fantasy or scigi)
-tested formula but refined with original aspects that change it up enough to be something different and also an improvement (most of the time)
-good art style for weapons, enemies, characters and environment. Everything looks good. Not cartoony but still a believable not quite realistic aesthetic
-good soundtrack
-good level design
-good combat (see above)
-interesting world building and lore that can be ignored if you don't care and fully lose yourself into if you do
-perfect quantity of content since the DLC is released

>>379692393
parrying was and always will be for pussies. The visceral attack damage removes all the fun and the tension of a fight. Mastering a single timing or a time frame isn't as fun as mastering an entire bossfight and knowing perfectly well a moveset.

In short: you're a scrub

>>379684257
The best thing about Bloodborne are the bosses. In Dark Souls 3 they use so many gank squad bosses in the later part of the game. In Bloodborne the only cheap boss is the Shadows of Yharnam.

>>379692619
But this post if yours
>>379692336
Proves that you haven't mastered it
You're the scrub who complains about boss difficulty being """unfair"""

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>>379692103

>>379692642
And even that boss was well designed since they split them up into close, mid and long range compared to for example ruin sentinels where it's just three melee bosses constantly flailing at you.
Shadows of yharnam is much more interesting because the arena design and the three phases change the fight a lot and adds strategical options as to who to kill first.

Yes.
It has a few issues, like
>few different builds
>first armor you find is the best
>there's unique content in chalice dungeons
But playing the main game once or twice it's probably the best game I've ever played.
Bosses early except Gascoigne are arguably a bit weak design wise, but it picks up really quickly.

>>379687639
>How does one even get pass through this?

He's going through the level in a pretty retarded way. I'm fucking bad at souls games and this part was a cakewalk, nothing out of the ordinary.

>>379692393
Dude, explain to me these secrets. I'm a nub who got the game last year but only got good enough to have Gehrman cut my head off the first time. Didn't realize it was the easy way out.

>>379693361
Equip the runes that give you +4 bullets and +1 bullet back when you do viscerals and then just spam them when he's about to attack. If you run out of bullets start blood bullets. Also equip lots of shit to throw like knives or molotovs, he is extremely easy to hit.

You can also just go into NG+ and start leveling Arcane until you get Blackeye Skye then you can kill Gerhman without him ever hitting you once.

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>>379693058
I think lukewarm posts like yours make me more angry than the scathing shitposts and 10 DAYS faggot.

>few different builds
Bloodborne has at least 3 main archetypes, all of which can be hybridized. What it doesn't do is give the illusion of build variety by having singular weapons/spells that require an entire build to use.

>first armor you find is the best
Hunter Garb isn't the best armor by any means. It isn't the best for Beasthood staching, Frenzy Resist stacking, or Def stacking for any damage type for that matter.

>there's unique content in chalice dungeons
On what retarded planet is that an issue? Might as well complain "area x has unique content". "> wahh I have to play the game to see all its stuff" Like truly what the fuck?

>Bosses early except Gascoigne are arguably a bit weak design wise
This is completely subjective and I wholly disagree.

>>379687346
Everything in this thread has just confirmed that BB is just as bad as DaS2. Are console warriors just eating it up because it's exclusive and never actually played a Souls game before?

What bosses did you have trouble with?
>Cleric Beast
>Bloodstarved Beast

What bosses did you beat in a single go blind?
>Vicar Amelia
>Papi G

>>379688062
I wanted to like cane but couldn't because there was no damn range on the coolest looking attacks.

Then I got the beast cutter and all was good.

>>379693485
You know that without us there never would've been Dark Souls? We Sonybros started Souls with Demon Souls.

>>379693484
I had to really think about what negative things I could mention. It's an amazing game, but you can't just say that.
Chalice dungeons are boring as fuck because they're all square rooms and corridors and shit on the aesthetics of every other area.

>>379693560
Yeah, and? DeS was a good game. BB is not.

>>379693589
And by shit on I mean it looks like shit.

>>379693536
On NG I had to summon for Shadows of Yharnam and Logarius. NG+ I was able to beat every single boss on my own except for Laurence.

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>>379693589
>Chalice dungeons are boring as fuck
t. anon who never did CRFs

It's overrated.

>>379693642
I'm stuck on the part where you have to fight the three hunters in Hypogean

fuck those assholes. I instead, explored and found Cainhurst Castle and I'm currently fighting Logarius

fuck the Shadows of Yharnam. They're not too particularly difficult for me but it gets bullshitty when it becomes the second phase

Threadly reminder that parrying is a crutch and only serves to ruin your play experience to a degree second only to multi-summoning.

There is only one negative thing about Bloodborne and that is the Byrgenwerth area. They left out the dungeon beneath it so it is extremely short. Shadows and Rom are two bosses where most players will struggle so it will introduce grinding and having to track back to earlier areas. It is also extremely underdeveloped storywise after all we heard about Byrgenwerth. I mean how hard would it have been to put a dungeon beneath it which serves as an entry point to the chalice dungeons? They even had the trap door there.

>>379693762
run past them

>>379693870
>run past them

I'm not willing to cheese the game like this. Perahps so because that fight is such an immense asspain and literal bullshit of the highest magnitude

It's actually pretty funny how much shit you can get away with by running past enemies

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>>379693560
>Demon Souls

>>379693762
You can either run past them or cheese them. I never bothered much with that area level and just straight run straight to the boss usually. In the unseen village you should explore a lot though since there's a key to another optional area.

Logarius is easy if you parry him. fighting him without it is a pain.

>>379693958
Did you actually explore Hypogean Gaol before you broke the ritual?

If you opened up the side doors, use them to sneak around back. You can start the fight by getting a free backstab/visceral on the hunter on the stairs, then funnel them all into the hallway for an easy victory.

>>379694042
>Did you actually explore Hypogean Gaol before you broke the ritual?

Not quite but just a bit outside of the church and I did kill darkbeast carl.

I'll figure it out. Chances are I'll just run past them or git gud and fight them with no cheese

>>379693986
Dude seriously, how do you parry, how did anyone ever realize how to parry I don't get it dude please.

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>>379694163
>how do you parry
You shoot them and it just works.

>>379694163
>how do you parry

Shoot when an enemy opens up for an attack. They will then drop down from where you can parry or get a backstab on them.

I'm so fucking bad at parrying, it's unreal.

>>379684257
I can guarantee you, anon it's one of the best games of this generation

>>379694163
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4SIJFjZ8SM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISmAUPmLdiI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJGrUpWt8U4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22rDXLcCzrg

Generally you just shoot them when they are about to attack. Only certain enemies can be parried. Larger beasts don't work.

>>379688489
>hit up that video
>guy was pushing with about 200psi
>still unharmed

>>379688321
Dark souls is the souls of normies. It's the cod of current generation

>>379694316
Do you hit R2 after you stagger them with the gun?

>>379694650
No you get right in front of them and press R1

Just spam bullets you will get it after a short while

>>379694727
Alright, I get it now.

grand fuck auto lol
>>I ᖴᑌᑕK TOᑎIGᕼT . ᑕ0ᗰ

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Good thread.

>>379689515
If you think the music sounds the same, get new years.
Compare Gascoigne to Cleric Beast, Witches of Hemwick to Bloodstarved Beast, Martyr Logarius to Ebrietas, Ludwig to Orphan... if you think they sound the "same", you're just deaf.

>>379684257
No. It's really good and still the only amazing game the PS4 has, but it isn't as good as everyone here says it is.

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>>379684257
Yes, it is

what weap do people usually run on a blt/arc build

>>379686934
It tends to spike a lot earlier than other Souls games. Just stick to it and don't bother with the first beast, he's optional and pretty bland anyway. Gascoigne should be your target-- once you can handle Gascoigne you have the skills necessary for most of the rest of the game.

Honestly, Cascoigne is one of the most brilliant 'casual filters' (for lack of a better term) in gaming, imo.

>>379689262
Nice critique, buzzword-boy

>>379689401
You have to abandon that playstyle. The only way through Bloodborne is aggression.
Make use of the more forgiving parry mechanic and the rally system.

>>379684257
Best game of the generation and top 5 of the decade so far

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You get to fist the pigs

automatic 10/10

>>379684257
After dying exactly 1,187 times, most of them due to being too cocky and clumsy, I'd say yes.

>Reason

After defeating a difficult boss that had killed you many times, it gives an amazing sensation of achievement.

Except with Gehrman, I don't know why, but I felt sad killing him.

>>379694152
Summoning is also an option. God knows the game gives out Insight like candy.

>>379693536
>What bosses did you have trouble with?
I had a ton of trouble with Wet Nurse, I kept getting combo'd by all the clones she summons. I gave in and summoned for Ludwig, I had no clue how to beat him.
>What bosses did you beat in a single go blind?
Blood-Starved Beast and Gascoigne, but only because he glitched out between two gravestones and couldn't move

>>379684257
If you like Souls and want or have a PS4 you might as well give it a shot. Just keep in mind it doesn't play exactly like the core trilogy so don't let your perception of one sour the other.

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>>379693610

>>379692057
Did anon die?

>>379684257
Its really great and I see why people like it a lot. However I genuinely prefer Dark Souls I and III.

Sonygqers will tell you only people who haven't played it would say III is better. While Bloodborne has more originality and better atmosphere, III does two things central to the Souls games better that make me prefer it
>better designed, more diverse levels
>better, more fun bosses

That's it. You can have a laundry list of reasons as to why BB is absolute kino, why every last bit of it is genius game design and go on all the rants you want. But III is just plainly more fun to play. Cathedral of the Deep in III is the best designed Souls area ever.

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>>379692748
This was not my post. And yes Parrying is for scrubs because of how much damage it does, while it requires very little time to understand the time frames

And I can safely say that I played BB before even touching it by playing roll only in the three dark souls games. BB is awfully balanced compared to the 3 other games. I managed to beat DS1 with a SL4 and there was not a single boss, including Manus which could kill you with a single hit.
BB on the other hand is full of them. I wanted to beat the chalices early on my first playthrough, and the chalices have baffling design. The undead giant with a boulder is easily the worst boss I've ever seen in any game.

>>379684834
>when you scrap some of the "mandatory" RPG elements

So it's the cawadoody of the Souls games. I'll stay clear.

>>379695785
They all use the same instruments, use the same gimmicks and hell, these strings arealways used the same way. There's absolutely no variety in term of vibes anon. Even when there's something new (the piano in micolash's) the second part get back to the same structures, ominous strings with some brass over it. Good instruments and money don't always make better soundtrack anon. The musical structures in BB are mostly tame.

>>379695674
Lol, Cursed Amygdala is cancer.

>>379693536
>What bosses did you have trouble with?
Shadows of Yharnam (first pay through, didn't know how to parry)
Undead Giants, seriously fuck them
>What bosses did you beat in a single go blind?
Gehrman

>>379698607
>There's absolutely no variety in term of vibes anon
Again, get new ears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA614N3IHD4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mByDcrNSV0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlQcKBUcgmA
If you want to shitpost, start with something thats even REMOTELY true.

>>379698369
all 3 of them are really shitty bosses
>the 2 scythe giant can lunge at the player in a jump attack as soon as you enter, after the iframes of going through the fog but before the player can react
>cannon giant is the easiest of the 3 but the spin attack has the longest range with the cannon and he can shoot at point blank range and fire twice at a distance

My play time before get tired:
Demon's Souls: 150h
Dark Souls 1: 300h
Dark Souls 3: 10h
Bloodbourne: 2h

>>379691486
>his rating includes an assessment of the available waifus
Fuck off, I can try to fuck women in the real world, I don't need games treating me like some ronery faggot. If anything, the Doll is a critique of the whole idea of waifus.
>starts out as a lifeless husk
>only becomes animate when you begin to go mad
>pathetically subservient
>created by a revolting old fuck in a wheelchair who lives inside a dream
>he offers to let you fuck her
>based on Ghermann's unrequited lust for Maria
WAIFUS ARE SHIT. THERE ARE REAL WOMEN ALL AROUND YOU WITH REAL TITS WHO YOU CAN SHARE REAL EXPERIENCES WITH.

>>379700004
DeS: 40
DaS: 500
DaS2: 80
DaS3: 40
BB: 309

>>379700004
Demons Souls: 100h
Dark Souls 1: 900h
Dark Souls 2: 700h
Dark Souls 3: 400h
Bloodborne: 1000h and counting

:')

>>379700004
DeS: 200
DaS: 1400
DaS2: 160
DaS3: 20
BB: 200

Why can't we have reliable, fun and varied random invasions again?
Why does From hate invaders?

>>379693485
I loved DaS2...its my favorite of the trilogy

>>379700309
Pvp fags arw the worst
I'm glad they got fucked in the ass

>>379700449
Look, man, I can understand how badly you got bullied in DeS
Everyone agrees that was too far, but the series didn't deserve to end up with 4v1 being the invader's endgame

>Yharnam Huntet chestpiece
>On a girl

Shit looks pretty nice

>>379700449
how many phantoms did you type behind?

>>379691781
go to the darkroot forest. easy to grind souls and the boss is easier.

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>>379685956
Fucking seriously, dude...it's getting old...

And they'd better delete or else I pull the trigger...

>the hitboxes on those jumpy faggots in the DaS3 swamp
Triggered

>>379700004
>>379700126
>>379700232
>>379700309

Jesus goddamn christ, how can you put that many hours into such simple, bland games

>>379693846
so dark souls in general is shit then?

>>379701362
>how dare you have fun
Tell us o anon of supreme taste, what is superior in your eyes

>>379700617
>>379700937
And that's why you're the worst. Love attacking others agains their odds but as soon as the game changes turn you start to cry. Also immediately jumping to conclusions.

>>379701362
are you lost?

>>379688147
A lot of people say the cleaver is great, but honestly I don't see it. When it's folded it's attack speed is good, it's damage output is ok, and it's reach is nearly non existent. When it's extended it's moveset sucks and it's attack speed is too slow. I'd recommend the Hunter's Axe until you can get either the Kirk Hammer or Ludwig's Holy Blade.

>>379701452
you realize most invaders invade the host already has phantoms, yes? and the host has a myriad of advantages at their disposal compared to the average invader, for example in DS3
>host has 30% more health
>can summon phantoms without repercussions
>dorkmoons
>set up ganksquads
>tree seed
>invaders can kill each other
invaders
>you might get a team of all shitters
i dont care about "muh honor" but to pretend the host and the invader are on a equal playing field is delusional

>>379684257

its one of the best games ever made.

>>379701862
I'm doing mostly cosplay builds that are obviously not optimal for pvp.
Pvp fags have cookie cutter builds and used to twink alot in DaS when it was still possible.
On top, adding in lvl range the invader might have better stats than you in total.
It's a stupid thing to engage in pvp in an RPG that's as unbalanced as souls

>>379702368
>the invader might have higher stats
The invader is significantly more likely to invade anyone higher level than him
Priority has literally always been given to do so

Also saying 'its stupid in a game like this' is a fucking terrible excuse
You think it's fundamentally 'stupid' so it's ok to make it worse?
Get off your high horse

Not to mention, DaS and even DaS2 had incredible variety in how you could invade
Every area's varied aesthetics combined with numerous weapons or cosplay
You weren't around when there was a hundred guide imagesfor PvP cosplay builds

>>379702982
HMPH

>>379702982
>>379702904
>>379702723
>>379702654
>>379702580
>descriptions aren't riddled with HMPHs
disappointed

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>>379703052
H M P H

>>379697386
almost
I just sneezed and post by error.

>>379703236
H M P H
M P H
P H
H

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Name one other AAA game that features consensual interspecies alien impregnation.
I'll wait.

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>>379703315
HMPH HMPH HMPH HMPH *unsheathes secondary HMPH* HMPH HMPH HMPH *pauses to exhale* HMPH HMPH HMPH HMPH HMPH *throws HMPH's* HMPH HMPH HMPH HMPH *teleports behind you* H-*just kidding, I'll roll catch you instead* HMPH HMPH HMPH *you died 7 HMPH's ago* HMPH HMPH HMPH HMPH

>>379703436
It's rather rapturous.

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>>379703540
God, that crazy stutter laugh gives me boners
I want her to experiment on my penis

>>379699348
Get better tastes anon. If orchestras give you boners, then good for you. But that's pretty lazzy at all levels. You want comparisons? I can do it too.

Try cleric beast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICSk8-pJkX8
Intro, female chorus, bla bla bla, then comes 0:45 and they get back to the same routine, 4/4 with the same background ominous strings+ Brass because it needs to be epic right? Try to tell me why it couldn't be used on any not lovecraftian boss? Blood starved beast, gascoigne? You name it. it is not tied to a particular boss, because it is placeholder scary movie music.
BSB : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvUmL8uaE48
>Strings+ brass,
The One Reborn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BncJ1yX-BgQ
>"undead" voices + bells + female chorus and then 1:10, same routine, strings with the same pattern but + brass
Amygdala: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BihcP_GduOk
>Same idea good intro, then 2nd part that could be swapped with Gascoigne's or BSB.
Rom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zxEOIRQwd4
>Intro with female chorus, quite sparse, then second part kicks in, strings + brass + drums.

There's quite a reason for why you remember so well Ludwig's, Maria's, Gehrman's, it's because they are the only tracks that try to be different from the same core score that has no personality. If the tracks were more tied to the action, a particular boss, or a specific moment, the generic bosses of the chalices wouldn't share the 3 same tracks. Most of BB's soundtrack is quite generic and could be use anywhere else. And Gehrman's theme, while being great is not enough to make up for this painted by numbers thing.

>>379703918
You have no idea what you're talking about

The soundtrack has thematic returns of various melodies and structures to carry a continuum and relationship to linked bosses and areas. The One Reborn has very similar intentional shit going on to the chant you hear done by the choir earlier in the game.

Boiling everything down to "strings, brass drums" is fucking retarded. The orchestra is supposed to have these voices and consistency. This isn't a fucking Sonic sound track where every track is it's own level of midi autisticness and soundfont garbage.

The soundtrack for BB is literally thematic and recurring as fuck. It's those differences that occur with themes like Ebrietas and co's OST's that cement weight and create very serious tonal changes.

The whole thing culminates and leads in to Gehrmans theme, with a lullaby just before it, to put you to sleep but ironically wake you from the nightmare back into the dream.

It's the best OST of all From's games and easily top 5 all time for vidya.

>>379704316
>carry a continuum and relationship to linked bosses and areas
Bullshit! We don't need samey things for bosses that have absolutely no ties or very minimal ones between them. Using themes that comes back at moments is a good thing but it has literally no impact if the score keeps playing the same things over and over.
Listen once more the DS3 soundtrack, which despite being very low-cost managed to have very different themes while keeping some consistency with the themes, the areas.

Vordt, has the brain dead theme that you could expect, the dancer has a theme that is intentionally slow which refers to the slow movements of the boss, the dissonant chore is only a thing with the cursed tree and the cathedrale of the deep, Yhorm has his epic theme while abyss watchers have something not even similar while telling their tragic stories.

I didn't learn anything about Gascoigne while listening his theme, didn't get any reference in any BB's track at all. Even Gehrman's theme while being great felt like it was written for a movie, but not for this game. A recurring female chorus that is referenced with the emissiary and Ebrietas has not more meaning that "they are both aliens lol".

I stand by my word, they could have done something way more interesting than this lazzy soundtrack that felt like it was written years before the developpment or written without much thought.

>>379705149
>>379704316
Meant "Vordt has not the brain-dead theme you could expect"

>start this game
>discover you have to pay to play online
What the fuck? What decade is it?

The only thing I can see about this game compared to the other Souls games is that the person always seems to be doing shit damage no matter what weapon they are using. Is this right?

>>379703918
If you honestly believe these songs sound the same, I don't even know what to tell you.

>>379705743
They're not the same but they are far from good. It's music that felt like it wrote itself. I don't feel like the composer gave really a shit about what he was doing. The best part of it is in the DLC because it's obvious that Yuka Kitamura was in charge for it. You can easily say which tracks were composed by who. BB didn't need the same constant pumped-up strings+ brass that you find in 75% of the soundtrack.

>>379706240
You keep saying "strings and brass" like instruments and composition are the same thing. It sounds like your complaint here is that some of the songs don't have a distinct melody. That doesn't make them bad or lazily composed, though.