What should quarians look like in your opinion?

>>379683941
Probably Quarians

>>379683941
We shouldnt allowed to know
Like the masterchiefs face

Also fpbp

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>>379683941

Something like this maybe?

Like an exosuit lying in a ditch because their ancient equipment failed to filter out a particle of pollen.

>>379684651
Literally the only canon choice

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>>379687476

>>379685384

#4 is sexiest. I love the ayy look.

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I made this mod for exactly one playthrough.

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>>379685384

>we could have gone with any one of these designs
>but in the end we decided not to

>>379687730
It would have been better without a picture than what we got honestly.

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Something even a little bit creative would've been nice

>>379685497
Have you ever stopped and thought about how fucking stupid that whole thing is?

Given that their ENTIRE RACE lives in a bunch of space ships there aren't going to be any viruses capable of infecting them anywhere in the universe, except for whatever is on those ships. More so, there aren't going to be too many bacterium or fungus that are adapted to using them as hosts nor to defeating their immune responses, so they need only worry about opportunistic organisms, which other races have all sorts of antibiotics to treat.

If anything Quarrians would be mostly disease free until bacteria started adapting to their biology and they would probably never have to worry about viruses.

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>>379688302
EVEN
A
LITTLE
BIT

>>379688326
I don't think you'll enjoy any mainstream sci-fi if you start thinking about the science this much, which isn't a whole lot.

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>>379683941

>>379688354
>i'm batman

>>379688302
There was a really good full body 3d sculp of this design but I can't find it now.

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>>379688564
This one I presume

>>379688326
What the actual fuck? What the fuck are you talking about?
>there aren't going to be any viruses capable of infecting them anywhere in the universe, except for whatever is on those ships.
Why? I don't think you have the slightest clue how infection actually works.
>More so, there aren't going to be too many bacterium or fungus that are adapted to using them as hosts nor to defeating their immune responses,
Dude, A) they DON'T HAVE an immunity, or at least their immunity is extremely inflexible meaning that almost anything that will get into their bodies will continue to grow there without the organism attempting to defeat it. That is the whole fucking problem.
>so they need only worry about opportunistic organisms
Which is basically every fucking one? Jesus, do you think diseases are harmless until they specifically adapt to attack certain species? God dammit dude, talk about getting it perfectly fucking backwards.

>If anything Quarrians would be mostly disease free until bacteria started adapting to their biology and they would probably never have to worry about viruses.
This is so utterly wrong it just leaves me speechless.

>>379688456
He does not care about science. In fact I don't think it's even humanly possible to get it this backwards.

It was clear in the first game with her glowing eyes and the vague contours you could see of her face that they were meant to be oddly alluring space gypsies. All other designs were scrapped early.

>>379688683
I'm usually really vanilla restrictive regarding wanting to fug alien creatures but that's perfect. Only the feet creep me out but I wouldn't have it any other way.

>>379688326
Their original planet didn't even have bugs on it. They would've been very susceptible to disease even without sitting in ships for hundreds of years, if their planet didn't have mass spreading of disease through shit like insects and parasites.

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>>379688831
>oddly alluring

>wide hips
>form fitting suits
>cute accent

Nothing odd about wanting to fuck that.

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>>379683941
Like this

>>379689191
I meant their face specifically. I read somewhere they were also inspired by the pictures of women wearing veils where all you can see clearly are eyes, which makes them very alluring. Also they were a bunch of sashes and shit like stereotypical gypsy women.

>>379684651
>>379687717

I will never understand why they did this

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NEVER FORGIVE, NEVER FORGET

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>>379688947
>Only the feet creep me out

Given how completely fucking wrong the feet are on that model I'm not even entirely sure if it's supposed to be a Quarian in the first place. The hands don't look right either; it's like the model was made without referencing the suits at all.

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>>379689414

>>379689414
I wonder if they even asked for permission to use her face or was it a stockimage?

>>379689393
>I will never understand why they did this
Absolute, complete, magical not-give-a-fuckery and utter contempt for their audience. You can see it a lot through out the game: the people who made it already knew people will buy it anyway, and basically just tried how much absolute shitiness can they get away with.

>>379688683

It kills me that this guy put 1000x the effort than BioWare put into their photoshop attempt.

Why does quarian colossus armor exist? They're poor as fuck and live in a floating space shanty town, they can't afford that armor and if they could they would use the money for repairs/new ships.

>>379688716
>Why? I don't think you have the slightest clue how infection actually works.

Viruses work by injecting their genetic material into a host cell in order to force it to replicate viruses, instead of whatever role it normally plays. Its quite literally impossible for a virus that has not adapted to infecting a certain type of cell to infect that specific type of cell. This is why hepitis only attacks liver cells and the flu only attacks repository cells. More so, its also impossible for viruses to attack cells of different species unless the species is very close genetically (e.g. chimps and humans) or the two species have somewhat similar generics and spend a lot of time in close physical contact so that trillions of virus mutations can find their way to a host until one sticks (e.g. early humans and livestock). Since Quarians are essentially unique in the universe from a generic standpoint, there is no virus in the outside world that has the right adaptation to be able to infect any of the cells and the gap between quarrian generics and other species would be so wide that a viable adaption would likely be virtually impossible.

>anything that will get into their bodies will continue to grow there without the organism attempting to defeat it.
Bacteria, especially earth biosphere, that gets into their bodies isn't going to be able to break down or use their tissue for food without significant adaptation.

You should probably actually learn something about basic biology before you sperg out on the internet, friend.

>>379689443

He just took artistic liberties. He's also the guy who made the salarian female model with the fat ass (even though salarians have no visible dimorphism).

>>379689582
What are you talking about, 3D models usually start in high quality and then the design gets less detailed to make it a full mdoel.

>>379689737
>Since Quarians are essentially unique in the universe from a generic standpoint

I thought Turians were the next closest thing? They can have sex and not kill each other.

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>>379689414

>There are people who actually modded that into the game

>>379683941
I unironically wouldn't mind if they were just like the suits themselves but kept the eye glare on their faces.

>>379689737
I may remember wrong but I thought that they died by an abnormal autoimmune reaction

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Pull open the visor and see pic related stuffed inside.

>>379689737
>Talking about Earth type viruses in a setting with aliens

You know, there could be much worse viruses in the galaxy. Things that simply attack proteins of certain types. Evolved based on how common certain molecules are, and how they form protein chains. They could consist of those same molecules and break down proteins to produce more of themselves.

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>>379689914

>>379690124
the geth wish they were home, playing video games

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>>379690101

>>379690097

BioWare's contradicted themselves on this multiple times, as there was only one writer on the team who was interested in hard sci-fi and he left during ME2.

Quarians have an extreme allergic reaction to everything, but at the same time they take antibiotics because their immune system is so weak and they can adapt to strange environments through repeated exposure.

>>379690101
>People who... who just see the helmet can't see my expression, so I have to make it clear what I'm... what I'm...
>*psh*
>UUULLLLLLAAAAAAAAAA!

>>379688479
this is cute as fuck
wouldn't even care that we can't make children together

>>379689737
>Its quite literally impossible for a viruses that has not adapted to infecting a certain type of cell
That is very interesting. So how do you think virus would propagate itself before the prolonged mutual contact allowed to specialize then?
You are an idiot. The specialization of viruses is a product of their LONG TERM MUTUAL COHABITATION, not a default setting.
>. More so, its also impossible for viruses to attack cells of different species unless the species is very close genetically
Because bird flue is not a thing anything, right?
>Since Quarians are essentially unique in the universe from a generic standpoint,
They are not. ME universe makes it painfully clear that extreme evolutionary convergence drives the universe, meaning that absolute majority of species in the universe have extremely similar base structure, same cell structure, same DNA structure, same base anatomy, very similar immunity systems. Hell, they make a MAJOR deal out of the fact that some (few) species use one or two different aminoacids in their biochemistry, meaning that chemically most of the species are still incredibly similar to each other.
>Bacteria, especially earth biosphere, that gets into their bodies isn't going to be able to break down or use their tissue for food without significant adaptation.
See above you moron. They are chemically and structurally almost identical.

Fun fact: lethality of diseases DECREASES over prolonged cohabitation. Not vice versa. If you have an organism that has been completely isolated from the environment with no pressure on it's immunity adptative systems, the probability that even the slightest threat will be LETHAL increases drastically. This is basic logic and you really have zero clue what the fuck are you talking about.

>>379689543
It was indeed a stock image, they bought it and fucked around with it in photoshoop for 5 minutes.
This is how much they cared for reveal of one of the greatest mysteries of their universe.

>>379690359
Wasn't the allergic reaction thing a metaphor or something on Tali's part when explaining the problems with her immune system? I could've sworn she said 'it's LIKE an allergic reaction' or something but it's been a very long time since I've played it.

>>379690359
That is not actually a necessary contradiction.

Is anyone else really fucking salty about how Tali got worse over every game!

>Play me1
>Tali is this cool independent space engineer, kind of vulnerable but capable
>Really down to earth, pragmatic
>Also has a sense of wonder about everything as opposed to every other fucking character
>Game THROWS Liara at you, Ashley is ok but a subordinate, Kaiden is literally fucking Carth Onasi down to the voice
>Can't romance Tali

>ME2
>They heard everyone saying they wanna bang Tali
>So they make her this super clingy codependent who idolizes Shepherd Senpai
>Put off but go for it anyway because Tali and dat ass

>ME3
>She barely has any personality at all
>Muh Geth war
>My homeworld
>Bitch you have been on two separate suicide missions with me you know the space shrimps are coming
>'lol' induction port
>Fleet and flotilla relay jumped my puberty
>Singing

AaaaaAAAAAAAAAAA

>>379690406
The one thing that Bioware did right was to make the one ayy girl who always wears a protective suit so goddamn adorable that you don't even care what she looks like.

>>379690097
The wiki says that they have a very weak immune response and will die of disease without their suits/immunisations. If they got some sort of alien anaphylaxis or lupus, you would think that they would need immunosuppressives instead.

>>379689886
Quarrians and Turians have similar protein types (all other races have the opposite type), which means that humans can't eat quarrian and turian food and vice versa. This means that bacteria that evolved on earth or the asari planet or whatever, almost certainly lack the ability to attack quarrian cells.
Genetically speaking, absolutely nothing in the universe has similar generics to Quarrians, since they're the only complex lifeform that survived their biome.

>>379690109
>They could consist of those same molecules and break down proteins to produce more of themselves.

That's not how viruses work. That would be a completely different type of lifeform and would also kill the fuck out of absolutely everything, especially humans.

>>379690618

How so? They specify that quarian immune systems have a weak reaction to everything because on their homeworld there were no insects/birds to help plants pollinate so mammals like quarians did instead.

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>>379690737
>ME1
>Mobile Quarian Codex Entry Dispenser
>ME2
>Waifufag Bait
>ME3
>Further Waifufag Bait

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>>379690219
600 years in photoshop

>>379690843
>That's not how viruses work.

Yes, I know. The only similarity is using the target organism to reproduce. It wouldn't be called a virus, but it would be able to attack regardless of genetics.

>>379688326
Tali literally tells you that something as basic as common cold is transmittable between quarians and humans and is capable of killing them.
Basically they're space romani/gypsies and therefore all of them have aids.

>>379690852
>They specify that quarian immune systems have a weak reaction to everything because
No. They don't say that it has a weak reaction you moron. They say that the system is weak. Which does not mean that the reaction is weak - it means that the reaction is INEFFECTIVE. The second fuck half of that sentence makes absolutely no sense either. What the fuck? How does Quarians being part of the pollination cycle explain their weak immunity? What the actual fucking fuck?
No, their immunity is weak because they had lived for centuries in sterile environments and their immune system has lost it's flexibility.

>>379691134
>What the fuck? How does Quarians being part of the pollination cycle explain their weak immunity?

That's what BioWare said. It's in the lore.

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Rannoch
>Rannoch has no insect life. As a result, its pollinating plants evolved to rely on animals for propagation. This symbiosis between flora and fauna is responsible for the quarians' weakened immune systems, which made colonization of other planets extremely difficult after their exile from Rannoch.

From the codex.

>>379690737
Sorry man but Tali is my waifu I can't be mad at her. The whole keelah selai thing in rannoch and the picture Tali gives you only made my dick stronger.

>>379691134
>We grew up on a planet without bees so we were the bees so our immune systems evolved to be more accommodating of foreign organisms which made them weak compared to literally every other species and why we need to live on planet no-bees again
I haven't played ME1 in years and I still remember that

Quarian ships started out as over-sterilized and only got worse as time went on, their immune system was always shit

>>379691301
Well, then THAT is nonsense. Actually, the suggestion seems to be that somehow, the flora supplemented part of the immunity system and that once they left the planet, this lack of this fauna caused them to be at an disadvantage. However, elsewhere they very clearly state that their immunity problem stems directly from the fact that they had lived in sterile environments since the Escape. Which actually does make some bloody sense.

>>379691430
OK so you were right about this, that makes the stupidity go to Mass Effect writing team for at least not explaining this shit properly, because as it is explained in the codex entry it makes very little sense.

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>>379690917
This one just looks like one of those androids from ayylmao isolation.
If they seriously wanted it to have a humie face they could have at least use one which was already done properly.

>>379691386
When she was getting wasted alone and pouring her heart out that was it for me. My heart can only get so erect and it was getting painful.

>>379683941

High elves

>>379691660

Modding limitations. It's just a reused femShep head from what I remember.

>>379683941
jelly

>>379691818
skeleton jelly?

>>379691717
>Modding limitations
They obviously changed both model and the texture though. So something like >>379691660 wouldn't be impossible.
It's probably not worth the effort spent though, those games are older than mammoth dung already.

>>379690525
>So how do you think virus would propagate itself before the prolonged mutual contact allowed to specialize then?

What are you even talking about? Viruses have been "specializing" specific cell types for billions of years, when the host organism's change due to generic drift, so do the viruses and as the host sub-species drifts genetically from other members of its species or order, it becomes less and less likely for the virus to retain the ability to infect both species.
Over the last few thousand years, livestocking has brought humans and animals into close physical contact at a frequency that is unknown in the wild, which has allowed for viruses that are adapted for cows or fowl or pigs to enter into human bodies with enough frequency that the one in a million, trillion mutation that is able to successfully attack human cells manages to find its way into a human host and multiply.
This is why avian flu is a thing, even though bird and human respiratory cells have significant genetic differences.

>Hell, they make a MAJOR deal out of the fact that some (few) species use one or two different aminoacids in their biochemistry, meaning that chemically most of the species are still incredibly similar to each other.

And funnily enough, those two species with profoundly different biochemistry happen to be... Turians and.................... Quarrians. Which means that only one other known biome in the galaxy has bacteria that are adapted to attack the fundamentals of Quarrian biochemistry, let alone their cells structures and makeup.

Read a book, my man.


>>379690996
The point is that any species that wasn't already adapted to that sort of thing would be wiped out overnight. You wouldn't even be able to immunize against it, because the human immune system wouldn't be able to recognize it, even if our macrophages were able to kill it.

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>>379683941
Something that's built for sex and can do things to dick. Jesus even their "males" look like qt femboy's if it weren't for the voices. My question is why didn't Mass Effect have anything that was truly alien that didn't share the same body structure and height? The very few that did never moved or eere any signifigance. Really get's the neuron cylinder's firing.

>>379690525

Well in the Mass Effect universe it's apparently very uncommon for the same disease to affect multiple species, as they mention during Mordin's recruitment mission in ME2.

So realistic or not, that is apparently how the writers view it.

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>>379683941
>tmw when you make your shep look like Ahnold so you can play out your Austrian beefcake fantasies.
>Romance Tali in to so i can see how she looks
>Tali removes her mask
>There was no option for "One ugly mother-fucker"
ME3 just ruined her for me.I jst wanted some sexy alien monster like to make sweet love to.Is that so wrong?

>>379692264
Yes. Bioware rewarded those who were faithful to a waifu without face with a literal top model photoshoped into a space elf that is super horny for your dick. IMO Tali is flawless.

>>379691980
>Viruses have been "specializing" specific cell types for billions of years
That is the fucking point you moron: SPECIALIZATION happens through an arm race AFTER the contact. We still shit our pants from the possibility that we might accidentally unfreeze some virus lodged in the permafrost that our bodies will have no immunity response to and that will fuck us over terribly.
You really have no clue how this works. Pathogens begin flexible, and over cohabitation specialize. Do you have ANY idea how universal becteriofages can get, how variable targets can they aim at? We already have immunity responses to about 99.999% of all possible pathogenic threats in our enviroments PRECISELY BECAUSE WE CONSISTENTLY ADAPT to them. If we just weaken the bloody immunity system, nearly everything can be lethal to us, including things that otherwise do not harm people at all.

All pathogenic organisms are opportunistic. By DEFAULT. The opportunism is only worn down by the arms-race they participate, by consistent defense on increasing amount of fronts that we go through. This is actually beneficial to both sides too, because high lethality is actually disadvantageous for most pathogens too. Our viruses are (mostly) specialized only because they can penetrate our defenses only at specific weak points, not because they are fundamentally unable to target different parts, but because they are not able to get past the defenses in those parts. Flu virus does not target respiratory cells specifically: it only has particular success with respiratory cells because it knows how to get past their defenses most efficiently.

>And funnily enough, those two species with profoundly different biochemistry happen to be...
The only two civilizations based on dextero-proteins. In fact they still use the exact same parts and exact same moleculesYes: in theory micro-organisms from spread by Turians would be bigger threat than those spread by humans. That is where it ends, more or less.

>>379692235
Which can be more easily explained by universality of biological systems and efficiency of (similar) immunity systems than inflexibility of the actual pathogenes.

>>379692067

Four arms are really sexy. There needs to be more IPs that have aliums with four arms.

>>379691889
sure, why not
i just thought it would be cool idea for them to be some kind of liquid lifeform

>>379692685

http://googleitfor.me/?q=how+viruses+work
http://googleitfor.me/?q=how+bacteria+work

Go for it, lad.

>>379689561
"put in a photo of her without the suit but i don't want it to cost anything"
"yes boss"

>>379692937
Dude, that is fucking cute but I actually studied the subject. Unlike you. This is fucking riddiculous. Fuck off.

>>379692747

Well the line is
>I didn't think diseases could cross species barriers

Vague, but I can understand the writers intentions as trying to state that diseases that could even begin to infect multiple species are relatively rare.

>>379692685
>Pathogens begin flexible, and over cohabitation specialize. Do you have ANY idea how universal becteriofages can get, how variable targets can they aim at?
Must be why we keep catching common cold from our domestic animals and vice versa.
Oh wait, we don't. Which makes the whole "vastly different organisms can share diseases" thing seem even more dumb.
You're grossly overestimating any given virus's ability to evolve over time, it's mostly random.

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>>379690405
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfh-_05laPs

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>>379692782
I feel like the Fallen is what the Turian should have been inthe first place. From a design standpoint and how it would have been much cooler and sensible to see Garrus scaling up buildings and having an advantage with his four eyes.

>>379693312
You're talking about Bioware which has less creativity left than fucking Bethesda.

>>379693135
>Must be why we keep catching common cold from our domestic animals and vice versa.
Well, we do, considering bird and pig flu being a major scarecrows you god damn fucking retards. Fun fact, we don't cross-infect very often because of our immunity being able to deal with them very easily. If we did not have the immunity, we would be at serious risks.

>You're grossly overestimating any given virus's ability to evolve over time, it's mostly random.
Uh... seriously. STOP TALKING ABOUT SHIT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. IT'S FUCKING EMBARRASSING.

>>379692473
I wouldn't have cared if she looked like a yautja. You fall in love with the personality, and in the end there's no way there's anything other than a fantastic ass under that suit.

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>>379683941

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>>379693497
this

And besides, I'd a yautja anyway.

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>>379693458
>bird and pig flu being a major scarecrows
which is exactly what they were, scarecrows. something for the press to talk about. neither of these amounted to anything even in the short run.
oh and typing in all caps without arguments is not any less embarassing 2bh.

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Not even under pain of death will I ever forgive them for what they did to this series.

>>379693651
Actually, they were more virulent and lethal than the Spanish flue, and it's only thanks to the fact that our capacity to deal with them is so damn good that we avoided a really nasty situation.
More importantly, the fucking point here is that those things exist, proving your "but virus totally can't jump from species to species" argument laughably stupid.
But again: for fuck Christ, just stop arguing what you clearly don't understand. I mean after this shit
>You're grossly overestimating any given virus's ability to evolve over time, it's mostly random.
How can you even fucking continue posting? The fuck is wrong with you?

Like big, stupid jellyfish.

>>379693832
>virus totally can't jump
If it's so weak even between Earth based species, I'd argue it's nearly impossible for it to happen between organisms divided by millions of light years, some of which are not even ammonia based. I was talking about Mass Effect when I made that statement, should have probably pointed that out.
>How can you even fucking continue posting?
Are you literally shaking right now?
And yet again, no real arguments. Sad.

>>379683941
What does an extinct species look like?

>>379694340
Swedish

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>>379693778

Stop manlet shaming NOW

>>379685384
leftmost face looks like a prototype for all the tumblr art faces I've been seeing

>>379694257
>If it's so weak even between Earth based species
So weak that we had three separate MAJOR crossess resulting in three of the four biggest viral threats over a single century. But yeah. Sure.

God dammit you idiot. Look up what zoonosis and cross-species transmition is and you'll see how frequent it really is, and what are the reasons that it's not as frequent as it could be. And stop fucking embarrasing yourself.

>And yet again, no real arguments. Sad.
You are fucking retarded enough to think people don't realize that EVERY adaptative mutation starts with a random alteration to the genome. You actually even think there is an alterantive to this? THE FLYING FUCK?!


Also:
From wiki on zoonosis:
Many modern diseases, even epidemic diseases, started out as zoonotic diseases. It is hard to establish with certainty which diseases jumped from other animals to humans, but there is increasing evidence from DNA and RNA sequencing, that measles, smallpox, influenza, HIV, and diphtheria came to us this way. Various forms of the common cold and tuberculosis also are adaptations of strains originating in other species.
So basically, 2/3rds of the most dangerous diseases we deal with have been zoonotic in origin: half of them emerging over the course of last few thousand years only. But great, great fucking job.

Seriously, fuck off.

>>379690917
golem get ye gone

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>>379688326
Anon, I was as flabbergasted about it aswell, but somewhere I heard a pretty good explanation about their predicament.

Quarian biology is VERY dependant on specific cultures of microorganisms. More so than any other race in existence. Those microorganisms were their digestors, immune system and whatever else. If a parasitic microorganism colonized a quarians's body, the quarian's microflora would be the one's who took care of it.

For their anti-parasite microflora to survive and remain up with times, these microbes need to be exposed to those parasitic microorganisms. First is because these parasites ARE their food and without they starve. Secondly because microorganisms evolve at lightning speeds when compared to macro organism, so quarian micro flora must be exposed to parasites to be able to be in the race of evolution.

However, by the game's timeframe, they have been in their sterile suits for so long that their anti-parasite microflora is almost non-existent, since there simply has been no hostile organism to eat, most of them have starved to death.

Factor in the fact that those isolated suits act as miniature bioshpere islands. The minimal exchange of microflora has caused a massive divergence in microflora wihin quarian population. So, a harmless digestor bacteria in one quarian might be an agressive flesh eating bacteria in another quarian.

Does it make sense now?

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>>379683941
Extinct

>>379695370
die bosh'tet

Why didn't humans just kill every aliens?

>>379695341
Don't bother. He is a complete idiot and he has no clue what he is talking about.

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who remembers?

>>379695618
end of rine

>>379695685
----------------- rine end here

>>379695618
>marauder shields
damn it

Frankly, human. The reason? Well 1, they are clearly mammalian, so that eliminates things like a plate-exoskeleton. They have the same nose as humans approximately as you can see it in the suits. They possess not only sexual dimorphism, but identical dimorphism to humans in their males and females. They have breasts and give birth to live young. They are mammalian. As such they have skin. The skin tightness of their suits exemplifies this, meaning smooth skin as well. Their home planet is more arid (I, imagine, it is similar to the Australian outback), making options like:
>>379687476
impossible. Think of arid environment mammals, they tend to be smoother, thin haired, a wiry. Which is what we see in game. The dog legs are suggestive of a species was highly mobile early in it's evolution, further suggesting a smoother appearance eliminating looks like this:
>>379688479
Again, you look to arid animals to see that they tend to be very smooth, to reduce surface area to reduce heat transfer.
Hair is probably the biggest difference. I assume both given their home planet, and their now extended time spent in suits, they are effectively hairless. If they weren't before they are now, as having hair in a suit like that would be a nightmare and make fitting difficult.
So in all likelihood they would look like a very thin, athletic human completely hairless and probably with a very light pallor due to lack of sunlight.

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>>379683941

More importantly what does their sweat taste like?

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>>379695998

>>379695876
Why are you assuming that all of the planet looks like the one place that you visit in 3rd game?

>>379695876
your hair conclusion is completely unfounded

there is nothing that indicates if they have hair or not. their hairiness would not be depend at all on their suits. If one has hair, that hair is gonna grow no matter what. So, from your justification of hair being annoying in suits, the only conclusion can be that if the do have hair then they probably keep it shaved.

>>379696118

That and things said in all 3 games. They mention desert sands far too much to have it isolated to one region. The codex entries in 1 mention an arid planet. Likewise the nessasity and propensity for both a starfleet, and an inability to readily move to other planets, prior to the geth uprising, all suggest an arid planet. Their reaction is not sickness its actually an allergic reaction. Well that's in keeping with desert/arid peoples, as the land/wildlife is effectively "sterile" to infections (lacks water, key ingredient for life). As such Rannoch being *largely* an arid planet makes sense. Think one giant outback and that's about what you're looking at.

>>379696245

Let me rephrase that: if they weren't lightly haired before, they are hairless now, not *naturally* but because it would be cut/removed/dissolved (if not outright deliberately killing follicles) in order to make suit life *significantly* easier. Desert/arid mammals always have light hair, so being stuck in suits, plus technology, plus utilitarian nature (which they are known for) suggests either by biology or technology, Quarians are likely hairless.

Why do aliens know humans' periodic table of elements?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BFtr7bWzfI

>>379696539
Because properties of atoms are not exclusive to humans.

>>379696539

Because it's not human, it's Chemistry. The names are translated along with everything else, but 'our' periodic table would be identical to anyone else's because it's arranged by valance, not any internal logic. You couldn't really do it any other way and have it make sense short of just listing them (and they would still be in the same order). Also Atomic weights have nothing to do with humans other than units, which likewise really is just a translation, not an inherent different, understandable concept. And we measure AW's in AMU, which would logically be identical in any other system, baring different base maths (and it's still 'the same' just expressed differently)

>>379696765

Kinda but still not mammalian enough. Also we know they have a pronounced nose since you can see it in their suits (only 'part' you can see directly). Likewise nostrils would be larger. Arid environment, tight slits, bad combo. A very wet climate is conducive of tight slits.

>>379696765
Quarians have nose and their eyes are smaller.

>>379696765
>fucking bitches knew about order 66 and that sheev was sith

>>379696539
That is... awful. Like, really really awful.

>>379696865
I like them slits tight in a wet climate if you know what I mean

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>>379696081
>Tali's sweat would increase your libido in the sack
>tfw you'd just blow your load even earlier

>>379696930

The entirety of that DLC is cringe inducing garbage.

Someone will inevitably chime in saying they liked it. That's how you know they're retarded.

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>>379696879
>had the facilities to make an army in test tubes based on any special soldier
>Emperor decides to clone a random maori bounty hunter that has never done anything of note instead of a sith underling or even himself
>the alien superpower that can create a clone army didn't think to create their own army to take over the galaxy themselves or at least as a backup if the Emperor later decided to create some kind of super weapon like maybe a death star that destroys planets indiscriminately

What's the name of the old mercenary guy with the Jason Statham accent?

>>379697134
Zaeed

Also worth mentioning;

While yes Dextro vs. Levo protiens would not be digested the same way from one species to another, as lock-and-key would not function, it is a *huge* stretch to assume that one eating the other would be physiologically dangerous. That is to say, Tali should be able to eat human foot and vise versa, it will give 0 nutritional benefit, but in most cases it would be harmless, and likely be denatured in the body *long* before it could be hazardous, if it was hazardous to start.

>>379695473

The aliens are physically and technologically superior.

>>379697121
>random maori bounty hunter that has never done anything of note

I don't know how canon it is but in the game he did kill a Sith apprentice. That was the test to see who would become the clone template.

It was either him or Mr. Krabs so there you go.

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>it takes asaris hundreds of years to master what takes humans a decade or two to master
>yfw asari are the dumbasses of the universe

no wonder that even though Liara was over 100 years old, she still acted like a dumb college babe

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>>379697276
Boba Fett never does anything special in the OT but people loved his design and how mysterious he was so he became a fan favorite.
He was created for the now discarded Star Wars Christmas Special.
Jango Fett was created as fan service but even he doesn't do anything special or important in the movies himself.

The only cool shit about the Fetts that would make them good specimens is extended universe stuff, which isn't even canon anymore if it ever was.

Considering a bounty hunter isn't really loyal and Jango Fett isn't really an amazing soldier there's no real reason for them to clone him specifically.

>>379697121
cloning force sensitives makes the cloned guy crazy because the force hates fucking with it

they did try to make their own clones and sheev destroyed most of the cloning tanks which is why they recruit stormtroopers

what I don't get is why they didn't clone multiple aliens
like mon calas or quarren for fighting in sea planets
or aliens with lots of hands like xexto for pilots

>>379697486
>Jango Fett isn't really an amazing soldier

Well when the EU stuff was still canon, he absolutely was. He was a Mandalorian.

>>379683941
Doesnt matter at this point.

>>379697592
george made him not mandalorian even before disney changed the canon

>>379697640

Not around the time that Attack of the Clones was released. Bounty Hunter was released in the same year.

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>>379697592
Even if Lucas signed off on EU stuff, I don't know if it's really fair to call it canon.
Lucas was a fucking retard about the canon.
> Red Fly finally met with George Lucas, but not before being told how to talk to him. Our source says they were told to never say “No” to him, or to say, “Yeah, that will be easy.” They were also told not to mention Force Unleashed’s protagonist, Starkiller. If he’s referred to by George, it will be “that guy.” The most important rule, was “Don’t tell George how the Force works.”

>A friendly George Lucas entered the room and was eager to hear the pitch from Red Fly’s creatives. “Before they could finish their spiel, Lucas cut them off, stood up, walked over to the statues, rotated them to be facing the same direction, pushed them together, and said ‘They’re friends!’” adds the source. “He wanted these characters to be friends, and to play off of each other. He talked about the show Burn Notice as a reference point. He likened Darth Maul to Sonny from The Godfather, and he likened Darth Talon to Lauren Bacall. He actually did an impersonation of her. It was supposedly the weirdest impersonation of a ’40s actress going, ‘Don’t you know how to whistle? Put your lips together and blow.’”

>The problem with the idea of Maul and Talon teaming up for a buddy cop-like experience was that they were separated by over 170 years of Star Wars fiction – as ridiculous of an idea as Frédéric Chopin forming a band with Dave Grohl. When this vast time divide was brought up to Lucas’ attention, he brushed off the notion of it not working, and said that it could instead be a descendant of Darth Maul or a clone of him.

>>379697792
I bet he was waiting for them to call him out on how stupid it was but he was left unchallenged.

>>379697907
>I bet he was waiting for them to call him out on how stupid it was but he was left unchallenged.
that sounds like how the prequel trilogy was filmed

>>379697792

The EU was canon but it isn't anymore. I'm overall fine with that, I mean it's not like I can't read those books/comics/games anymore. And as it stands they keep bringing old Canon in to Clone Wars (which remained canon) and now Rebels. Thrawn was a great turn but I'd like to see him be more of the "Grand Admiral" he's supposed to be.

Losing the EU sucked a bit, but losing the Vong with it kinda makes it okay.

>>379685384
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>>379697792
>Even if Lucas signed off on EU stuff, I don't know if it's really fair to call it canon.

At the time, it was the only thing to go on. If you don't take Jango Fett's appearances outside the movie as a canon backstory, then he has no backstory. Which is fine, but then you can't say he
>isn't really an amazing soldier
because in that case how would you know? You don't know anything about him.

I recognize that it's a very tenuous connection between the movie and the EU stuff - the only movie line that has any relevance to the game is when Jango tells Obi-Wan
>I was recruited by a man called Tyranus on one of the moons of Bogden
That moon is where you (as Jango) kill the final boss and meet Count Dooku who recruits you to be the clone template.

>>379689393
Because they were hacks and ME3 was a cashgrabber.
Thanks god Androgyny tanked so they can't rape the franchise anymore.

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So....
No one posted the original concepts yet? I am disappointed in you people. This is not fan art, but rather some stuff that was released along with other concepts by a former Bioware concept artist.
The idea was to create vaguely humanoid, alien creatures that look like they've spent their entire lives in a suit - pallid, somewhat sick look.

>>379698239
were talking about star wars now

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>>379683941
Like photoshop

>>379698263
How silly of me to actually make posts that stay on topic.

>>379698059
but no more video games other than those godawful EAfront

The important question is what her genitalia and nipples look like.
Glowy like her eyes I imagine.

>>379698404

Yeah well... yeah that sucks. I still wish they would have made a RC2 or a BH2. Also there is a huge hole in all of video games for arcade flight sims. We still get a few true Sims, but good old Rogue Squadron or Secret Weapons over Normandy need to come back. And with new Star Wars properties coming out, they really should make a new version of Rogue Squadron with similar arcade feel. I cannot imagine it wouldn't sell well. You could put SW on a pile of crap and it will sell well, it's that reliable of an IP, and an Arcade sim is pretty easy to make since the models are zoomed out so detail can be reduced.

>>379697792
Disney really missed an opportunity with EP7

They had a big chance to do something without any EU baggage and they just copy paste a new hope with the most boring black guy ever and some gal

was it ever mentioned how krogans, quarians, turians and humans could all use the same guns effectively despite having different hands?

>>379698617
>people with blue eyes have blue nipples

>>379698685
I'd imagine they'd have interchangeable grips for different species.

>>379698685
>different hands

m8 they're just human hands but with three fingers.

>>379698617

Same as a Humans. Reasons: well again, their dimorphism is identical to humans, so why would the nipple be any different? It's design is less of attraction and more of evolution working as a mechanical mechanism. It *has* to look that way on mammals because it doesn't function if not that way.

Likewise their reproductive systems should be identical. Reason: well again the dimorphism is the same, as are the evidence of armored codpieces on men and total lack of one on females. Live birth, which they have, require a vagina and uterus, doesn't work without it. Given their arid planet it's likely to be... I say tighter but that's not what I mean to say. I guess I'm trying to say more closed? Humans open when aroused, in a sandy environment this would be a disadvantage/dangerous. So they are all 'innies' if you can catch my meaning.

>>379698617
what if they had three nipples per breast

>>379698239
Looks like Rattataki

>>379698872

Wouldn't work that way. Mammals have one nipple per breast because there's only room for 1 milk gland per breast. Otherwise it would be multiple breasts like a dog.

>>379698795
Camel's eyes have large lashes to stop sand getting in, so Quarians might be quite hairy downstairs.

>>379698320
I see nothing wrong with this, it's lazy, but my waifu is a literal top model.

>>379683941
Like Doctor Zoidberg.

>>379699065

It's a thought but unlikely. Gentiles have hair not as protection typically but for warmth. An arid environment would not require warmth for the genitals. Likewise hair on arid animals is thin and wirely. Also as I said, either by technology or limited evolution, current Quarians are almost certainty 100% hairless, as they are a utilitarian species, with limited resources, and to waste time having to deal with hair growth in a suit is a huge waste of time. Given technology in that universe it's likely they kill the follicles at birth, to prevent hair growth ever.

>>379699173
that´d actually be fucking hilarious
like when you spend half the game in romance options then she takes the mask off and its ugly as fuck octopus
>WHATS THE MATTER SHAPRHARD

>>379698872
I can't see a reason why, but it'd certainly be interesting.
>tfw it's cold, Tali is shivering.
>Miranda's nips are visible through her catsuit, little peaks on her sizable tits.
>Tali too has a pair of nubs on her breasts, stretching the suit just a little.
>then you notice another set of nipples poking at the fabric, and another.
>Tali doesn't notice you staring at her perky breasts, she's busy cleaning her shotgun and humming some quarian tune.

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>>379699254
Well she clearly has head hair in this photo, or do we just ignore this because of how utterly lazy it is? I wouldn't blame you.

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>>379683941
Just for fun something alien instead of:

>bilateral
>biped

>hair replacement
>two eyes
>nose
>mouth
in desccending order

like every single higher alien race in MEverse.
Should've made the npc races have representation as well.
Then again, normies won't get attracted to the telepath jellyfishes, so anthropomorph master race, I guess.

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>>379699254
>Gentiles

What?

>>379699513

Pretty much. It even conflicts with what is presented in the game itself. I would accept the face largely is what she would look like, as is the skin and body shapes, but the skin tone makes no sense, nor do the lines (tats? Makes no sense considering they *never* leave the suit. A biological function? Can't think of one), but the hair is just glaring. I mean, anyone whose been in the Army can tell you that long hair and helmets don't work. Not only does the helmet not fit right, but it's uncomfortable as fuck (to say nothing of sweaty as hell). So yeah, I pretty much ignore that picture when explaining them biologically. Facial structure of *Tali* but that's about all it's useful for.

GAS THE ANGARA RIGHT NOW

>>379697486
>random person becomes fan favorite and canon Badass
Does this mean Tr8tor could become a recurring character too?

>>379699716

cont'

Funny thing when you're an organic chemist: it becomes clear that life, regardless of planet, would have to operate in and likely physically appear, similar to how life here looks. Oxygen, iron, cellular respiration, even pigments would *have* to be similar to what we see on earth, because of how chemistry works. You can't *have* a non-carbon based lifeforms; no other atom functions the way carbon does in the formation of molecules.

Tali's skin would likely be Albino, more of a symptom of lack of vit-D, but still an underlying 'pinkness' due to their blood being the same color as ours. Same goes for Asari btw, their blood should be red as no molecule could function in oxygen fixation that that when oxidized wouldn't appear red (and never purple).

>>379699716
It could be an old photo from when she was younger, or possibly in the 2 years between ME1 and 2. She could've since had her head shaved, and then take drugs to stop it growing back while in the suit.

>>379699876
that's what they're trying to do with phasma

>>379699876

Na this time (as in this trilogy) it's Captain Phasma. She's in the next movie, that's confirmed, and leaked scripts put her either as a deep inbeded Resistance agent, to a semi-force sensitive working as a direct agent of the overlord.

Either way she's the *new* fett.

>>379699996
>It could be an old photo from when she was younger

On what planet would she disrobe and take a picture of herself against the sunset? It's clearly supposed to be a picture she took of herself on Rannoch.

>>379700045
That character they almost cut completely from the entire movie just to throw her literally into the trash.
Sound like a plan.

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>>379695618
And yet, best guy wasn't even romanceable
Fuck Bioware

>>379699996

Wouldn't make any sense. I know the instinct is to not have her be bald but like I said, anyone whose worn helmets regularly (sports or military) will tell you how annoying that would be to have for any period of time, much less *years.* When I was in the Army women in my unit, regardless of the 'type' of girl they were, usually had a high and tight, purely because having even a bun-level hair was uncomfortable under a helmet for a full deployment. Most outright bic'd their heads.

>>379697039
It's dumb fanservice and I liked it.

>>379695934

So the fans just accepted that shitty photoshop as canon Tali?

>>379700147
It couldn't be Rannoch because there's clearly vegetation in the background, which would probably produce pollen and be dangerous for Quarians to inhale. It's amazing how much a single photo can fuck with the game's canon.

>>379697039

Some parts were fun. The elevator conversations when retaking the Normandy, especially if you had Wrex with you, were a fucking riot. Actually Wrex was pretty much a riot that whole DLC and should be in your party for every mission.

>>379700178
>beef mchugelarge was the "best guy"

I can't imagine what it's like to have taste this shit.

>>379700387
I don't consider it canon, but I think it's good artwork regardless. The artist clearly just went off the in-game photo, and did a very, very good job of it.

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>>379700432
He was handsome, had a relatively interesting story, and was well-written - better than Kaidan and Ashley.

I like Garrus but I don't imagine my character finding him attractive.

>>379683941
They are out of their element so... fragile. Like their skin is about to crack or burst.
>>379693563
Comes closest in this thread.

>>379700103
Did people like her? How can you be the new fett if fans don't know/care for her to begin with

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>>379684651
anon pls

delete this ;_;

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I always thought Tali would like like a mix of cute and scary like pic related.

>>379700878

Because kinda who else could it be at this point? When you think about it, there weren't that many characters in 7. Even secondary/background. What few there were are dead or truly nameless/faceless. There's the main characters, but they're just that, main characters. The three big bads, the few aliens and what'shername in the Cantina. And... well Phasma. That's it. It was a character piece of a film, but consquentlty you get fewer characters.

That's my biggest criticism of 7, is that while 4 was a *story* with interesting characters, 7 was mostly a character piece with very little story to connect it. Not *bad* but not great either.

>>379700820
>fragile
But a Quarian can easily wield a gun that would break a human's arm.

>>379701058

So does this series ever show her dicking the female scientist with her proboscis?

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>>379701058

If I had to pic and actress that I *imagined* her looking like, it would probably be a bald Winona Ryder. Don't ask me why but that's always what came to mind for Tali. Very pale, very wiry/skinny, excitable and awkward, ready to please but crappy at it.

>>379701138
>Because kinda who else could it be at this point?

Boba Fett wasn't put in Empire specifically so people could make up shit about him. He was just another bounty hunter that Darth Vader hired and the fans took it from there.

You can't force it. Phasma just doesn't have that same mystique (mainly because Fett did it first).

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>>379701058

I want to play with her feet

>>379701406
>You can't force it.

I didn't say it would be *good,* I just said that's clearly what Phasma is serving as. 'Forced' can pretty much sum up every major problem with 7. As what it lacks in originality is made worse by *forcing* various ideas/themes/concepts, none of which feel natural to the story. Again. Not a *bad* movie, but missing the mark set by the OT. That said, I'll commit some blasphemy, and say of the OT, I personally liked New Hope the least. The haircuts, shoestring budget, lack of information to the bigger picture and the story being a little to self contained (all elements of Lucas' knowledge there wasn't supposed to be MORE of them) all pulled me out of it. Now 7 doesn't have that excuse because it's already part of a bigger universe AND they know there will be an 8 and 9, maybe more. IDK if they were playing it safe, or if Abrams really lacks any creative spark whatsoever and is really just a master impressionist, or some combination of the two, but 7 lacked much of the story of the OT, 4 in particular, and was overly focused on the Characters which, honestly, weren't that interesting. They *told* use Ren is important, but nothing about her *is* important yet other than being a Force Sensitive. Were told Poe is important, but nothing in the movie SHOWS that. Really the only character that has a real importance is Finn, and that's purely because he doesn't start and end the film in the same place. He has an actual arc, which is more than I can say of any of the other characters, and WHOLEY not the case of 4 were ALL characters have an arc (even Leia is shown to have softened up by the end).

>>379699254
>/v/ -- alien physiology and reproduction
Is this what biologists think about in their free time?

>>379685384
fifth especially and fourth looked cool
Not really original (those long fucks from the starwars prequels come to mind) but atleast more ayy and classy than human with lines.

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>>379683941
Angaras

>>379691889
i am skeleton jelly

>>379702053

I'm actually a very bored, very alone chemical engineer. But when you go through school one phrase that comes up alot is "Everything is physics" and this is basically true. If you understand physics, the rest is really just one form of logical application or another, you just have to decode the logic in use. Understanding biology, both micro and macro, really just comes from understanding the underlying Chemistry which itself is really from just understanding physics. The universe is elegantly simple; it all comes back to physics and thermodynamics.

>>379690737
>Not being homo for Carth Onasi

>>379699991
O.CHEM-kun, how do you feel about cobalt-based hemoglobin (purple blood) like how the Elites from Halo have? Or about how the Grunts from Halo breathe methane?

>>379695056
Also jesus that's literally a turian I should've noticed before

>>379694473
All of europe plus britain.

Especially britain. Only managed to leave because the immigrants had actual balls unlike the anglo cucks.

>>379702724
Cobalt is blue, not purple.

>>379685384

2,3,4 and maybe even 5 work well. 3 probably my favorite

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>>379701259
I can certainly see what you're getting at there.

>>379702724

Wouldn't work. The energy balance would be *way* off as the amount of energy to fix oxygen to cobalt would make the entire process worthless. They lose more energy then they gain (remember the 'system' in question includes more than the body so of course, it's a net loss overall, but within the view of metabolism it's a 'gain'), making metabolism functionally impossible.

Breathing methane makes no sense either but for different reasons. ATP/ADP would kinda have to be present, because there's only so many ways to make a *useful* molecule that can be easily (read: low energy level) made/broken. And methane wouldn't work in an ATP/ADP fixation scheme. You'd have to find a way to make an energy carrying molecule out of just Carbon/Hydrogen, which isn't particularly possible in the context of a biological organism (yeah sure, I guess you could have a biological cold fusion but let's be real). We like to say there's infinite possibilities, but this isn't true as a organic molecules kinda HAVE to form the way they form, and simply switching out a similar atom (i.e. similar Valence) doesn't actually work.

The levo/dextro thing can happen, it's just luck of the draw life on Earth chose one Chirality over another, but *overall* the chemistry of life has to work the same everywhere in the universe.

The grander implication of this is that life largely has to look *identical* to what we see here. Things like gravity effect fluid dynamics, which effects the chemistry of life. Meaning a life bearing planet has to have the same gravity. This means evolution there would have to take place in a similar fashion in regard to locomotion/legs.

>>379702963

It's just my head, but that's who I pictured. Maybe it was the personalty that informed it, but that's who I just kinda mentally cast as Tali in the ME movie in my head. Liara was always Emily Mortimer. Again... not sure why but she just made sense to me.

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>>379701190
This is NOT appropriate conduct for a first-contact scenario

>>379702963
Can anyone edit her face onto Tali?

>>379702838
Cobalt's got more of a deep indigo color than a light blueish color when oxidized

>>379703318

Also Cobalt wouldn't fit. That's a huge problem right there. Was thinking about this but yeah that's a big issue. Iron very much fits in that slot in Hemoglobin, relying on both it's physical size and valence interaction. But Cobalt wouldn't have that and would likely mean Hemoglobin would have to be completely restructured and likely not function.

>>379703318
>The grander implication of this is that life largely has to look *identical* to what we see here.

So what you're saying is ayylmaos being humans or furries with some differences is 100% scientifically accurate? I must know for shitposting purposes.

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>>379703752

cont'

You can't just put Cobalt in there, it doesn't fit. You'd have to start fucking with double bonds and that gets messy fast. You'd have better luck with Ruthenium although it would have other issues, obvious and not obvious, but especially it's physically too big to fit in there, so the angles change, and that gets VERY messy fast.

>>379683941
A praying mantis.

>>379703434
I wouldn't really know. As for Mortimer, I guess, but I only see reemblence in a few photos. Again, I don't know her personality.

>>379703318
>The energy balance would be *way* off as the amount of energy to fix oxygen to cobalt would make the entire process worthless.
But this paper

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2135265/

Says that it would work. Not as well as iron, but still functional. If Sanghelios had shit iron deposits but tons of cobalt it would be doable.

>>379703814

Same in the sense Dinosaur, a Platypus, a Human, and a Whale all are the same. Functionally, from a pure chemistry, an physics based system sense, they are identical, but obviously specific adaptations vary from environment to environment.

So yeah expect any alien to have an exoskeleton, be (when advanced) bipedal. Posses something analogous to an opposable thumb. Enlarged Cranium. Likely 4 limbs (coordination of more than 4 fucks up the brain). Tails might be the biggest thing to expect. Human's lacking tails is kinda odd, even as a bipedal.

Put another way, the fetus of an alien should look nearly identical to a human. Just like a Human fetus looks like any other mammal.

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She should have looked something like this, but more xeno.

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>>379703983
Something like this?

Don't ask where I got this image from.

>>379703318
I always thought that the Grunts got all of their oxygen from food. As in, they take in their hydrocarbons from the air, and their oxygen from food, in the inverse to how life on Earth does it. Their food would be mostly oxidized salts (as opposed to organic compounds), or lifeforms with storages or prefixed forms of the same

>>379704109

Woah that's a helluva stretch you're making. The abstract points to it being acceptable in an Iron based-system as a potential supplement, bot as a 100% replacement. You're mixing two very different situations. Plus I'm unconvinced it would fit.
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>>379704021

Quirky. Know-it-all. Hopelessly naive. Brilliant, but not able to wield it well. Driven. Don't know if that's *her* but that's the characters she always plays.

>>379704242
Where did you get this image?

>>379704127
>exoskeleton

Shit, meant endo.

>>379704242
>hair on bugs

Absolutely disgusting.

>>379683941
who cares. ded franchise.

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>>379702249
>no option to commit genocide against the angaras and conquer Andromeda for yourself

>>379704383
Fuck

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like this

Human-like, but with enough definitive features to make them look alien enough to be considered a new species. Kind of like the Asari. Like, if the Asari weren't purple and had tentacles on their heads they'd just look like humans, so they're def fuckable by human standards.

I just want my alien womenz to be fuckable ok.

>>379689914
I take it she doesn't have any facial animations when she talks with this mod

>>379704338
desu whether the Co is a replacement or supplementary isn't important to me so long as muh elites work

>>379698320
>people who don't have drawing pads has photoshop
Why?

>>379704847
it's paint.net

>>379704472
You mean Heleus

Wait for Mass Effect: Andromeda 2 and 3 and we'll see about that

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>>379704338
I can kind of see it in this photo, for example.