Post 10/10 jrpgs that are often overlooked

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>>379669371

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>>379669371

>>379669631
OP said overlooked not overrated

>>379669371
is this the one with bad voice acting and long cutscenes?

>>379669878
Then yo mama!

>>379669371
>Post 10/10 jrpgs that are often overlooked
How is it overlooked? It's regarded as a classic among all JRPG fans. And EB is even better.

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Absolutely fantastic game. Really unique story concept that sucks you in pretty much immediately, and the rumour system is such a cool mechanic. Easily my favourite Persona game

>>379670268
didnt they also fan translated the sequel?

>>379670450
I know it was planned, not sure if it was ever finished though. I just played the PS1 version though

>>379670268
I've always been curious about the old Personas. What's the difference between Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment?

>>379670630
EP is a sequel to IS.

>>379670630
Eternal Punishment is a sequel actually. You can technically play it without playing Innocent Sin, but I'd definitely recommend playing Innocent Sin first.

>>379670758
>>379670785
Neat, so then why wasn't EP just Persona 3 then?

>>379670953
too aged for me

>>379669371
As a kid I found Lunar to be a very challenging series. Never beat them as a result. Aren't they also really long?

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>>379671174
fixed

>>379671273
im pretty sure the artist who did this cover is also a hentai artist

>>379671174
Play Ys Chronicles then they're great remakes

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>>379671338
Nice.

>>379671131
Persona games are all independent stories, so I guess they just wanted to clarify that it was a continuation of the same story. Like Final Fantasy X and X-2

>>379671209
how long to beat has it at 27 hours so not too long as far as jrpgs go

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>>379671338
we can only hope

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>>379671848
That's it? I thought it was like 70 hours somehow. What the hell was I even doing?

>>379671906
No hoping about it. They've straight-up animated high budget porn. They're a big name from the golden age, who I don't know the name of.

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>>379669371

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Wild Arms

>>379669371
My teenage self spilled so much semen to the bromides in this.

>>379672120
The 2nd one can potentially take that long.

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>>379669371

>>379672130
satoshi urushihara

>>379672130
google front innocent, yw

>>379671338
Yes and he even made porn for his own characters.
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=684036

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>>379672273
you too

>>379672313
Daily threads are becoming an issue. If anything, it sure isn't overlooked on /v/

Legend of Dragoon
Parasite Eve
Secret of Mana
Skies of Arcadia
Tales of Destiny
Quest 64

>>379672256
THAT FUCKING OP

LITERALLY THE BEST VIDEO GAME OP EVER MADE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVOFibwVMw0

>>379672559
new game just came out that's probably why.

>>379672281
That might be it then. I played both of them (but finished neither)

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>>379672808
A bit more than that
>3rd game in the Sky trilogy got released last month
>The 4th and 5th games that were still NEVER EVER in translation hell suddenly got a rough draft translation patch, a separate guy who made a spreadsheet with full TLs for both games, and a movement to translate the chinese PC version all within a week
>Trails of Cold Steel 3 news near weekly.

Jeanne D'Arc

>>379672897
gundam emblem sums up this game

>>379672781
Somehow never heard of this until now, but it definitely sounds interesting. How's the story? Is the gameplay more interesting than just mashing attack? Also what's the ratio of dating sim stuff to jrpg gameplay

>>379673116
the dating sim is practically mandatory for advancement

>>379672781
>that opening by Hamasaki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S5wMY-wcO8
The game had some really clever concepts. I always ended up stopping just before you get that pirate chickf

>>379673168
Ohhhhhh shit, is this the game where the MC is a soul blacksmith? I used to watch a friend play this like 18 years ago.

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It's not overlooked but I think it is a bit overshadowed by BoFIII. I played it after BoFIII and thought it was even better.

I don't know why we have been having a shit ton of fifth gen jrpg threads but I love it.

BoFV

It's gets shit on for being a departure from the original series, but it's an amazingly unique game.

>>379671209
Originals are somewhat challenging through annoyance, but PS1 version are probably the preferred versions.

>>379672781

Hate to say it, but this game sucked dick. Dating the girls was the ONLY redeeming thing about this game, and even that was meh.

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>>379672578
>trying to trick people into playing Quest 64

>>379669526
Does this count?

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>>379672897
>those dub songs

>>379669371
Digimon World 2. If anything, it's only remembered because most didn't like it for becoming a dungeon crawler.

GOLD HAWK 4 LYFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA_uV_pDYD4

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>>379673507
Guy above you, I agree. Maybe it's because I went in to it not expecting a BoF game like the others but I really enjoyed it. It has it's fair share of problems but the atmosphere and timer are really great.

>>379673464
I've heard that BoFIV is supposed to be amazing at everything but the story is that true?

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>>379669371
Maybe this if you don't care about voice acting that much.

>>379674050
>that comfy '80s-eqsue sci-fi novel cover art
>on a Dreamcast game
Love it, mate. Fuckin' love it

>>379674419
The story isn't bad, but the characters have no depth, save Fou-lu.

XenoGears
XenoSaga series
Xenoblade
Xenoblade X

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>>379674419
No, BoFIV has a fucking fantastic story. It has flaws but story is not one of them. It's strengths are it's great battle system, amazing art, interesting story, and unique atmosphere as the world of BoFIV has a more Asian influence. The only real flaws I would give are it's too easy until the last stretch and near the end there is some pretty bullshit padding but it is so worth it. I played it only this year and I haven't loved a game as much in years. It is seriously one of my favorite games ever made. Upon beating it I was even debating playing it again. I was debating playing a fucking jrpg right after beating it, I loved it that much.

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>>379669371
this game is the shit and we absolutely should have gotten more JRPG "zelda puzzle dungeon" games like this

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>>379672781

>buy game
>it's pretty shit

>send in the little card it came with
>receive soundtrack in the mail with that catchy opening song

I regret nothing

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>>379674804
Fou Lu is by far the most developed but the main cast has their fair share of moments. If you don't think Cray had development then I think we may have played different games. Is it the deepest writing? No, I give you that, but to say none is I feel a little extreme.

>>379671273
stop trying to trick people into playing this

>>379673909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIvut3qTUb0

Battle Theme was godsent

>>379674590
I thought this game had a lot of high-profile japanese voice actors

>>379671338

Yes, I don't remember the name but he did Plastic Little anime. Also he has like 25 years doing hentai. The way he draws nipples and vaginas is out of this world.

>>379669371
>>379669526
Great taste

>>379670268
Objectively terrible taste

>>379672256
OK taste, but 10/10? Really? It's an 8 at the very best.

>>379673464
3 has a much more solid story and pacing. 4 gets boring toward the end.

>>379674954
Good taste

>>379672313
But man FUCK my attention span when it comes to these games. I really need to clear out a week and sit down and play.

>>379669526
It gets overlooked for being a Zeldaclone, which is sad because it approaches absolute perfection in that genre. The gameplay is simple and the dungeon's have just the right amount of difficulty. It also has loads of great memorable locations and characters. It out-Zeldas Zelda.

>>379669371
Best characters/world of any JRPG, definitely. The localisation took liberties but it was funny, especially at the time. The difficulty level is great for a JRPG and the sense of being on a real adventure is there, similar to Grandia. Great anime cutscenes which brnig the characters to life, characters that are so well-written that their relationships seem real. Amazing game.

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>>379675806
>3 has a much more solid story
Really? The build up is great but as a story I find it a bit lacking compared to say, II or IV. The idea of Myria was really cool as she isn't pure evil ans seems somewhat reasonable but it never really goes anywhere or makes you question if she might be right. It's a great game but III's story is pretty underwhelming.

>>379676335
>It out-Zeldas Zelda

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>>379676335
Is alundra that good? Art looks great but I was never a huge zelda fan and I have heard that it is tedious as fuck with it's puzzles and enemies.

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>>379669371

Game was alright but man some of those jokes/references added by the localization team stick out like a sore thumb. I swear there was one guy who talked like Austin Powers.

>>379674590
I wouldn't call it a 10/10, it had lots of problems, but it was easily one of the best JRPGs on the Wii.
Also gets an honorable mention for having one of the best looking overworlds of all time

>>379675604
The dub is completely atrocious and it doesn't let you switch. I guess you could see if there's an undub if you emulate it or have a hacked Wii

>>379677061
I wouldn't call it tedious, just very challenging at some points. It's definitely worth playing, and don't use a guide. Also that UH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKP1w0-sdhA

>>379677061

The puzzles are definitely where the meat of the game is but I enjoyed them. You can always use a FAQ and just play it as a pretty good Zelda-like.

>>379677061
When I was a kid the puzzles really pissed me off and I could never figure them out without a guide. As an adult they're a little easier but some will still activate your almonds for a bit (pushing the pillars around on ice comes to mind). Definitely a lot harder puzzle wise than Zelda.

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>>379677180

There is literally nothing wrong with Working Designs' translations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY9At7Ec66Y

>>379672578
>Quest 64

Yeah, nah. It's kinda interesting but I wouldn't even call it a good game.

>>379677061
I wouldn't call it tedious. Maybe a few of the puzzles could be if you just can't figure them out and have to try and bruteforce shit, but generally speaking it really isn't.
It honestly isn't all that similar to Zelda though, aside from being a top down adventure game with a metroidvania esque item system. It's very story and character focused. The dungeons are much more puzzle based than any Zelda too, not to say it doesn't have any action or bad combat (it's actually really good and feels very satisfying) but that's more kept for the boss battles.

>>379677356
>>379677480
>>379677501
Thanks, will go download it. Been playing ps1 stuff on my psp, love it.

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>>379669371

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>>379677534

>>379677770

They ever sell the Alex puppets?

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>>379669371
Arc the Lad was a pretty bad ass series. Even enjoyed the PS2 game.

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>>379677534
>yfw Working Designs had Jenny Stigile record a parody version of the Vanguard Bandits opening all about butts and farts.

>>379677904

Arc the Lad: End of Darkness was the first game I got BIG into online. It was so much fun, and shit talking people on the mic as a 12 year old was incredible. Was a very sad day when they closed down the servers

>>379677976
forgot link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er1vEkWx1pw

>>379669371 I like Jade Cocoon and the Grandias, I like blandness in an RPG though
https://youtu.be/i36tXq7yK6c

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Does this count?

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>>379669371
Can't wait for V

>>379672897
i love this game

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>>379669371
>Jenny Stigile

>>379677853
Nope, only the Ghaleon one was ever released. It was a preorder bonus I believe.

>>379678292
dumb autoquote

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>>379669371
Honestly most of the series. Ironically one of the weakest games, Symphonia, is the only one that gets any mainstream recognition. Not even Vesperia is really well known

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The best part about the Lunar games are the outtakes at the end:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMf5d6AvB1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhIsciDDo3Y

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All the games Working Design brought over are 10/10, honestly.
You could tell they absolutely loved JRPGs and were dedicated as fuck, even stuff that's mostly redundant like the manuals had an absurd amount of effort and love put into them. You just don't really have companies like that anymore. XSEED is probably the closest I can think of and even they don't even remotely approach that level

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>>379678598
Tax memes aside I think Atlus has taken over that role these days

>>379673464
Was BoF 3 the one where you had to walk through the desert by following the stars? For some reason I always remember enjoying that part.

>>379678512
Which is the best one that I can emulate easily?

>>379678314

Yeah I had one. I miss when pre-order bonuses were cool physical things.

Skies of Acadia is pretty fucking good.

>>379678784
Symphonia and Abyss

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>>379678784
I'm not an emulator bro so I'm really not an expert. I've seen good stuff about Abyss's emulation in threads and it's only a ps2 game so getting that shit in HD and even throwing jap language on top is doable if that's your thing.

Vesperia is 360 but really PS3 so I assume out of the question. I put Symphonia down a fair bit but it's clearly popular and on the Gamecube so it's also doable. Those are kind of the 3 "golden era" games of the series that all share the same general DNA.

If you wanna get crazy jump in Destiny Directors Cut

>>379678598
They also made simply adventurous JRPGs in a time when being pretentious and DEEP was taking root in the genre.

>dat feel when you'll never again get to the top of the wall for the first time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvhfpKnC1c0

>>379669526
The JRPG name has been dragged through the mud by the likes of Gust, Idea Factory and tri-Ace so bad I'd rather liken this game an ARPG

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Too bad GUST is shit now

>>379678113
I didn't really like to play Jade Cocoon because it was so clunky and slow, but goddamn it was a very interesting setting with engaging tribal and foreboding atmosphere. Something its sequel completely forgot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcHFfeaQ330

>>379678563
>If you dare make any sort of trouble in my town, I'll pop your tiny little heads off your twiggy little necks... And pop you in the pooter 'til your butt bleeds!

Could they say this in any game these days?

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>>379669371
Not quite 10/10 but I certainly got more enjoyment out of it than ones that are legit 10/10s for everyone. Kind of a personal 10.

>>379679223
I hear Mana Khemia 1 and 2 are really great. I have the first one and haven't gotten to it yet.

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>>379678784
People generally say Abyss or Vesperia are the best 3D Tales games.
I'd really recommend Eternia though. The 2D games other than Phantasia get barely any love and it's easily the best out of the whole bunch in my opinion. It's on PSOne and got an enhanced port for the PSP, both very easy to emulate.

>>379678749
Yes, that part is pretty infamous for being shitty. You should play BoFIII again, bit slow in terms of pacing but holds up well.

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>>379678113
>>379679125

>>379673909
This was a great, but very flawed game, in that battle took too damn long. It's like watching an FF summon for one attack round. I literally played this game multi-tasking. DNA digivolving was pretty harsh on leveling later when it became a huge grind, which exacerbates the first issue. I'm pissed that the Digi-beetle tanks have yet to be revisited. Upgrading them and navigating the dungeon traps was fun. Still has the best opening: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bMA1PgxFzg

>>379669371
Game has Bill Clinton jokes in it, not saying I don't love it but it's hard for me to not say it's nostalgia because if a current RPG had president jokes in it i'd hate it

>>379678113
Grandia was anything but bland my man.
I really miss those kind of JRPGs, they just straight up don't exist anymore. I can't remember the last time I played one that was so choke full of love and a sense of adventure, it perfectly grasped that feeling of being a kid that wants to go out and embrace the wonders of the world that so many fantasy books, movies, or games, try to emulate.

>>379678512
Symphonia is not the weakest by a long shot but abyss needs more love

>>379679754
If a current RPG had the kind of work put into NPC dialogue that Lunar had,that'd be amazing.

>>379679308
The intro by ghibli made it look so cool too.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zsnoP8SVDDg

>>379679538

I remember the rope-pulling segments being a real pain in the dick.

>>379679867
I think Persona comes close, trying to think how'd I feel if it laid out a Trump joke in it.

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>>379679926
>tfw it would only come from Futaba, Mishima, or Morgana

>>379669631
>>379669526
>>379669371
none of these are overlooked. are you guys retarded?

>>379672256
In what universe is the first Wild Arms a 10/10?
It's so fucking boring. The wild west setting/music is all it has going for it. The story is dull and the combat is terrible.

>>379679456
Mana Khemia is Harry Potter the anime: the game and it's just a generic Gust game. If you like Ar Tonelica you might be able to stomach it, but the story doesn't really go anywhere and the characters are pretty bland. Music is good. Haven't played the second one.

>>379679754
>>379679867
The thing is WD brought over a lot of stuff that would have otherwise been left in Japan, why they're really remembered. Still though, they did some dumb shit in thier localizations. They always made the games more difficult and would work pop culture refrences in for the sake of it. Nearly none of the jokes in lunar for example are in the original, the dragon poop one is though. While they're admirable for bringing over niche stuff they are pretty bad at actually localizing stuff.

>>379680116
>he wild west setting/music is all it has going for it.

yo fuck you the puzzles are pretty cool too

but I agree otherwise

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>>379669371
You'd probably have to go to fan translations for games that were never officially released to find those in today's day and age. Your Live A Live, Bahamut Lagoon, Arabian Nights, Treasure of the Rudras, etc.

>>379680116
This, wild arms is so overrated. I love jrpgs with unique settings, think metal max, but metal max also has customization, good gameplay, and great humor. Wild arms is just any other boring jrpg but in a western setting.

>>379679125
Fuck me dude, I totally forgot about that wall! Best moment of the entire series, Grandia 2 may have been mechanically better but it didn't tell nearly as good a story.

>>379680218
The puzzles have the capability of being cool, but it's usually just shoot Hanpan at the switch or bomb the thing. If you want good puzzles in an RPG play Lufia 2

>>379675806
I enjoy wild arms on the micro level more than the macro. It's the little things about the game like the fact you can name spells and the opening being so good really elevate the game for me. Even though it's cheating I love the glitch to dupe items.

It's got some problems with translation but so does pretty much every ps1 jrpg and some of the optional bosses can be shit to get to. Overall it's my favorite "underrated" jrpg including Dragon Quest 6.

>>379680116
That Wild Arms opening is pretty legit tho

I haven't played it

>>379669371
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FULmDcGqknI
Game had some good songs

>>379679125
I can't listen to this without getting shivers all over and nearly tearing up.
Holy shit, I really need to replay that game.

It absolutely nailed it, it's like a JRPG in its purest form, the ceiling of the genre

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:^)

>>379680390
Jenny Stigile's voice was boner fuel for me as a child:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYeivB9FMYQ

>>379680453
Get the fuck out, that game sucks the biggest dicks.

I still rented it every week for months

>>379671273
Wait, I thought this was a PSP game. I even have it on Vita.

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>>379669371
Kinda debatable how overlooked this game is but I feel like it has been forgotten/not fully appreciated these days. Game is a true 10/10 modern classic

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>>379680453
Please, you haven't seen shit.

This game makes SotS look like chrono trigger.

>>379680676
If Bravely Default is a 10/10 most of the classics posted in this thread easily eclipse that scale. That's not even any kind of nostalgia speaking, while it's a very solid game and I liked it a lot, it's simply not THAT good.

>>379680676
>literally asks you to repeat everything you did in chapter 1-4 for chapter 5-8
It's shit. Though that new switch project looks interesting.

>>379680676
get the fuck outta here

>>379680676
I cant beat the poison man.

>>379670953
Seven is better

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>>379680676
I feel like Bravely Default was pretty popular for its time, actually. This game, however, seems like it was completely passed over by everyone. I really liked it personally. The writing's not very strong, but it captures that NES JRPG feeling really well.

>>379680390
>>379680490

These songs bring back a lot of memories

Why do they never rerelease Eternal Blue?

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>>379680852
You don't have to if you realize the twist, and what follows is a fucking wild ride. I'll never forget what a rush this game was.

That moment where your face appears behind the final boss is amazing

>>379680990
I find it a bit sad that Lunar 2 doesn't seem to get as much attention as Lunar 1. I liked Lunar 2 a lot more than Lunar 1

>>379680990
>>379681201
I'm of the opinion that whoever's doing remakes/ports of Lunar 1 has the full intention of doing the same with Lunar 2, but poor sales of the first prevents it.

It really sucks too, because Eternal Blue is miles ahead of Silver Star.

>>379669371
>jrpgs
>aka generic anime stories with literal grind gameplay
>10/10
I'll never figure out how this "games" became popular, they're literally just grind until you can handle the mobs/boss to win with no skill or tactics involved. On top of the shit gameplay they always have an anime plot that reads just like shitty shounen.

I'll never understand the weeaboos obsession with Nip games

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>>379681201
I agree completely

For years I would always replay Lunar 1 and only played through Lunar 2 once right after it came out. I missed the old characters too much to appreciate it at the time.

I decided to give Lunar 2 another chance a couple years ago and found that it completely blows 1 out of the water.

Would anyone recommend the Atelier ports on PC?

Breath of fire: dragon quarter
Lufia 2

>>379681423
Give us your favorite game and we could resort to summarizing it in a shitty way too.
>in mario you just jump on shit
>in tetris you just stack blocks
>in doom you just shoot some demons
Any game can be made to sound dull. Also why come to a thread for jrpgs then if you don't like jrpgs? Sounds like you need a attention.

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>>379681423
do you want us to convince you or something

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>>379681693
>>379681737
Why would you take such lazy bait?
It's been a good thread bros come on

>>379681292
>>379681517
Yeah, I don't understand how some people could prefer Lunar 1 to Lunar 2. Do you guys have any ideas on why?

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>>379681201
I think it's more a case of how infamous Lunar 1 has now become because it's been ported to everything under the sun. And remade, I guess.

>>379681765
It's a couple sentences, not as lazy as most bait.

>>379681802
Lunar 1 has a super nostalgic feeling to it, more so than 2 does, it's a really down to earth, simple game about grand adventure, and some people prefer it because of that.

Plus I have a weird fetish for games that have sprite changes, and Alex's dragon master transformation gets me rock solid

>>379681802
My guess is because it came first. Also, as much as I prefer 2 overall the music in 1 is much more memorable.

>>379677061
No. It's not bad, but it in no way a better Zelda than Zelda like >>379676749 is saying. The one thing it does better is that it has a handful of fairly elaborate logic puzzles that can be quite perplexing.

Aside from that, it does not offer the kinds of quests and exploration that Zelda to any where near the same extent and is largely a huge slog through piles of dungeons after dungeon. If you like that kind of thing you'll enjoy it, but if you like Zelda for everything else it does you'll find it a disappointment.

>>379682097
It has better combat, better designed and more interesting dungeons, better bosses, better puzzles, actual characters with actual development, and an actual story. A lot of people would say it looks nicer than any 2D Zelda too.

>>379681889
>remake

whoa whoa whoa. what? is it any good?

>>379682445
The music and graphics are good, but they re-translated it and re-recorded the dialogue/music with new voices and lyrics.

They also kind of dumbed the game down by introducing these weird limit break attacks for every character, and I found it incredibly frustrating that it had consistently slow loading times, and music would stop/start over every time you enter a new room or building.

>>379682445
Every version has it's flaws. If you know ruins the ps1 version is probably the best but every version will have it's fair share of critisism. Just don't playbthe gba version.

>>379682097
What game are you comparing it to, because if you compare it to the LTTP-style games, which are the only ones that really makes sense at all, I don't see how Alundra loses out in terms of exploration and side quests.

>if you like Zelda for everything else
Like what? The jingles and puzzle solved sounds?

Alundra and for example LTTP have very different atmospheres, the basic gameplay mechanics aside they are almost entirely different games, liking one over the other is perfectly fine without trying to rationalize it because of that. But fundamentally I do think Alundra does everything except being a light hearted adventure game either on a similar level or better.

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>>379681889
>Liked the remake on the GBA
>Decided to support the next Lunar game that gets released
>Got Dragon Song

>>379677180
>Have a weird fondness for WD localization
Not saying it should be that way. But I did enjoy their weird jokes back in the 90's and when I play them now I tend to chuckle at them more from nostalgia. gaijinworks Sadly seem like they are just trying to just redo WD and that's it. Which feels so out of place today.

>>379680116
>It's so fucking boring. The wild west setting/music is all it has going for it. The story is dull and the combat is terrible.

I actually kinda agree for the first game. In fact, I think the entire series has a sweet spot where only a couple of games really felt like good JRPG that made good use of the wild west setting.

>>379682445
>>379682584

Here's a video link to some of the bad loading/music interruptions, just skip around as the dude enters/exits houses.

https://youtu.be/ejmREXmeqCE

I also forgot to mention that I'm not a fan of the game's art direction, it makes everything look a little lifeless.

>>379681150
You do have to do it if you want to fight the final final boss.

>>379681889
>The overworld movement is weird because of the 8 dimensions control it has (Some games can pull it off, this one couldn't)
>Mia's limit breaker is op as fuck

>>379682883
>>379680116
I think the one I played was the first Wild Arms, the one with Rudi and the adventurer that has a flying squirrel thing.
Honestly the Wild West setting was almost nonexistent in that, you had like a handful of towns that it was prominent in, but then very quickly you start only really moving around in fortified castles, magical ruins, and eldritch horror dimensions. The extent of it was maybe seeing a revolver or cowboy hat here and there

>>379682584
>>379683152

>>379682756
What are you talking about there's no such thing as Dragon Song. That was just a feaver dream. The only Lunar games are 1 and 2. So don't worry your little head.

>>379669371
So many teenage boners were born thanks to this

>>379683327
>12 years old, in the hospital receiving chemotherapy for Leukemia
>My mom knew I liked Lunar and had just bought me Lunar: Dragon Song to play on my newly acquired Nintendo DS
>How could it be bad, it's a Lunar game
>I had to force myself to play it so that I wouldn't feel like an ungrateful asshole towards my mom.

Shit, man. Those were hard times.

>>379672201
What game

>>379678598

>that moment when you realized Sue would actually be leaving you

dem feels man

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>there are people on this board right now that think there is a better Wild Arms than Wild Arms 3

>>379682257
>better bosses
I'll give you that. Only a few are any good, but Zelda bosses are typically atrocious so Alundra wins.


>actual characters with actual development, and an actual story

This is actually one of the biggest problems I had with the game. Due to what happens, the story events actively impinge upon your ability to interact with NPCs in any meaningful way outside of those major scripted events, for reasons that should be clear to you if you've completed it. I honestly found it difficult to continue to give a shit about them when I realized the direction the game was going in. On top of this, this also outright blocks you from being about to return to half of the game's dungeons.

If we look at what Alundra does with its NPCs can you honestly say it compare favorably to MM or even WW in its ambitions and what storytelling it accomplishes?

>>379678749

The desert is a prime example of terrible game design.

You can get given the wrong directions (if you look around enough it'll warn you about them but that's easy to miss).

The game gives very little feedback that you're going in the wrong direction until you get to the end.

Constant fucking random battles.

>>379678784
Berseria
you emulate Denuvo

>>379683780
great atmosphere, but I'll still take Wild Arms 5

>>379682445
its the same game except they add some pointless story addition at the beginning

>>379683603
Well at least you recovered from Dragon Song

I mean if it was just forgettable that's one thing but the game seem to be made to be the worse game ever made.

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All Sony needs to do is announce Legend of legaia 3 for the ps4 with modern graphics but with the old gameplay, and I would buy a ps4 in seconds.

>>379680127

>"we think Lunar 2 id too easy, lets ramp up the difficulty!"

Wonder if they realised their fuck up when they started reading all the reviews mentioning that they died to the first enemy in the game.

>"These weapons in Silhouette mirage are too powerful, lets raise the price and have them use up energy when firing"

Result: you used the basic weapon the whole game.

>>379669371
Lunar is hot ass and was only notable for being the first game with anime FMV

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>>379684190
Fight me.

>>379669371
Lunar is the only game to date that actually made me fall in love with the world.
The atmosphere, design, characters. I just didn't want it to end.

I played it when it came out, yet I still know the songs by heart.

>>379684190

The FMV sections were one of the first things done by Gonzo. Back when they actually had a reputation.

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Both of these games were 10/10 and no one ever talks about it.

The only bad thing being the voice acting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umq4gw7i1cg&list=PL0S4RFkf0j7ULUD5AWb6AMQImcNeoZFqf

The world needs more musical RPGs.

Shame the DS version is piss easy, full of bugs and the main VA sounds in her 30s but I still enjoyed it.

>NIS abandoned Marl Kingdom just as they were getting to the stage where they localize all their games

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>>379669371
Only shitty flaw is that you can't sell most of the items you find.

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>>379684523
This game featured the first appearance of Wojak.

>>379684598
I mean, aside from how blatantly unfinished it is on top of a very spotty translation and a guide being required to get anywhere.

>>379684598

this game is hard to get into (as most saga games), but once you do and figure out all the systems it's addicting af

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Pic not related, but the best thing about this game is that you can call anyone who didn't like this game idiots. To this day I'm still not sure if it's okay to grind on the PC version or not.

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>>379684624
Goddamn I'll never unsee that now.

What does Nip think of Lunar? Is it just another fine a dozen JRPG or do they love the game too?

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>>379684598
I think you meant to post this

>>379684523
I tried booting this up once but found the card combat confusing so I dropped it

I should probably try it again though I don't think I really gave it a fair shot

>>379680246
>Live A Live

Really great game. I love how different periods keep it fresh and aren't just re-skins. From what I remember the only way to get the best sword in Ninja chapter is to not get detected, right? Or was it not kill anyone?

>>379684951
It seems daunting at first but it's actually really easy. The game does a good job of easing you into the system too by making the first cards only have one number, and short combos.

Then by the end of the game you have cards with 4 numbers and 8 combos. Allowing you to string long straights for massive damage. It's really fun.

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>>379684624
KEK, it's him

>>379684853
It is not. Never ever grind, only kill enemies if you have to gather materials.

>>379684598
What character should I play first?

>>379686336
One of the ones with the most direction given in their scenario, so Red, Blue, or Emelia.

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>>379669371
E A S I L Y

Azure Dreams. It has roguelike elements,town development, waifus and monster raising. It's so good yet nobody fucking knows about it.

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Show me a jrpg with a better couple, I fucking dare you.

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>>379669371

>>379672958
All of that combined made the threads go from fun once in a while to complete trash. Stale /vg/ general tier really, which is interesting because it's not stale at all.

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>>379669371
I've never met a single person IRL that has played it.

>>379681802

Because Ghaleon was the only awesome thing in the series and the lunar 2 mangled his character.

The characters are just so over the top cliche and kiddy I found it very hard to take anyone besides lunar 1 Galeon seriously. Maybe I was just too old when I played them *shrugs*

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>JUST

SO FUCKING UNDERRATED IT MIGHT AS WELL BE A CRIME.

>>379687307

Loved this game. Was fucking hard as a 10 year old though. Getting to floor 10-ish (When it turned to lava and shit) SPOOKED my little dick silly. Game was amazing though. The town stuff was some of the comfiest shit in any game I have played even to this day.

>>379687897
There a few dedicated shitposters but I honestly blame the constant threads, even if there's technically new stuff coming out.

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>>379669371
it will never be localized ;_;

>>379688247
My only complaint about the game is how little money you get after battles.

Thankfully the battles are tons of fun in this game

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>>379688378
And I bet no one here has played it.

>>379688783
Didn't mean to quote you there.

>>379674050
This, such an under appreciated game. I'm surprised though, I've never heard anyone here talk about it before.

>>379687307
>game let's you have your own harem
>only if you get them one by one and then upgrade your house to give 'em space, if you do it backwards you're cockblocked out of it for ever

The moment I found this out I stopped playing
Great game, though

>born after the 2000s: The Thread

>>379672346
I never beat the optional super boss, the gargoyle. I want to replay it sometime.

>>379689116
Pretty much, considering people think million unit sellers that are spammed nearly every day on /v/ or /vr/ are "overlooked".

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I'll never understand why I no one talk about this gem. The first one was good too, but the second one is GOTY.

>>379672671
>LITERALLY THE BEST VIDEO GAME OP EVER MADE

If it was original composed, sure, but this one is the original.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7z6zRbGhfg

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No one I've talked to even knows what it is. I guess because it was on the PSP.

>>379689409
Someone did talk about the first one in this very thread.
>>379672346

>>379672958
>made a spreadsheet with full TLs for both games
Really? From what I heard I thought he only did Ao. Link to the Zero spreadsheet?

>>379689596
well my bad.

>>379683725
Literally in the OP, it's Lunar.

>>379687307

Loved Azure dreams.

The level drain monsters however were complete bullshit. They'd put you at 1xp before you previous level up (meaning you lose all the xp since you last levelled), if you get hit twice in a row, you were fucked.

>>379689534

I played through 1 side of that. I remember it being passable but nothing particularly outstanding about it.

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>>379669371
>Working Design

Too bad it's ruined.

>>379678784
Abyss easily emulate, Vesperia the best. I wouldn't suggest to start with these one thought, the others will appears shallow as hell.

I tried to go back to some PS2 classics but I just can't do the terrible English dubs anymore.

At least the PS1 games didn't have that problem.

>>379674590
Here take this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zygDzAkothQ

and the undub of the game
https://mega.nz/#!f5VjnRTY!9bI2JI_GbRflH_LSiobnRkSEWNC4HHjdTxjtmtcQ2lE

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>>379684523
Baiten Kaitos Eternal Wings and The Lost Ocean Undub
https://mega.nz/#F!XkNG1AxD!zSkvnfdKlzzO4rgoeojWlw

Baiten Kaitos Origins Undub
https://mega.nz/#F!a1FTUTTK!LSz5-ZOIfVLbv4RNSC_OJA

Now go and enjoy the dolphin porn

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>>379677180
>"plus the beer is watered down"

>>379684043
Idk, Legaia 2 was okay, but Legend of Legaia was far better in comparison.

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the hunter also know as battle hunter
im sure nobody else have played this
also a pretty neat soundtrack https://youtu.be/pk7jwwpIjvQ?list=PL53A83745A3747DF3

>>379672346

I remember getting raped by this game. Way too tough if you just played babies first rpg final fantasy 7.

>>379688247
>Played the PS1 demo so many times because it was good
>Never actually played the game

Should I do it? Legend of Dragoon never really pulled me in so i'm wondering if I should bother at this point

>>379692481

Played it, got it out of a Walmart bargain bin I think.

It was...ok. It was a decent multiplayer game I guess. Playing alone was definitely kinda shitty though.

>>379693139
I liked it quite a bit more than Legend of Dragoon, which I never beat, so I would recommend you give it a shot.

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>>379669371
>>379669526
>>379669631
>>379670268
>>379672256
>>379672313
>>379673464
>>379674954
>>379678159
>>379678292
>>379678512
>>379678598
>>379680676
>>379683780
>>379684523
>>379684598
>>379684947
>>379687326
>>379687763
>>379688069
>>379688247
>>379689409
>>379690589
>overlooked
>pretty much jrpgs 101

At least most of them are good games.

>>379671273
>>379674050
>>379674538
>>379687307
>>379688783

Now we're talking. Especially Egg.

>>379680246
There are officially translated games more overlooked than those. Those are the first fan translations every fan learns about. None of them are overlooked anymore in 2017, they're top recommendations.

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Why did nobody post this? Shows you how underrated this game is.

>>379694268
Because its not really underrated in EU or Japan.
Its only because it never came out in the US, that makes many Americans think that Chrono Trigger is the pinnacle of SNES rpgs, when it the rest of the world knows that its actually Terranigma

>>379694362
>Because its not really underrated in EU or Japan.

Or the US anymore.

>>379678145
Yes, it does. Shadow Tower is great.

>>379694362
Yeah, I said it's underrated because this board consists of more Americans than other countries.
It's really a darn shame that America missed out on this. I still have the cartridge.

>>379672256
It's like 6/10 and not at all overlooked. Even if it has a lot of good parts, the combat is so bad and prevalent that it ruins it.

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This and Buu's fury
Think there was a DB one too but I can't remember it
1 was shit

>>379681889
>>379682445
>>379683003
I tried to pick it up on the PSP recently since it looked charming, but holy hell the loading made it unplayable to me.

>>379671338
>im pretty sure
Yes. One of the most noteworthy things about Growlanser was Satoshi doing the artwork.

>>379682756
>someone who actually liked Lunar Legend

First time for everything I guess.

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>>379673464
>tfw got cucked by BCD (big cat dick)

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>>379669371


>>379684674
>and a guide being required to get anywhere.
Are you DSP?

>>379679349
Of course not. Someone would say it gave them ptsd. Hell, all the rpgs from the era just had this wonderful, cheesy charm to it that you just cannot do now because "mature games for mature gamers", waifuism, and sensitive subjects that scare sensitive people. You have to tip-toe so hard now that translators just say fuck it.

>>379680852
>Though that new switch project looks interesting.
Lost Sphear? Yeah, that does look like it has potential. I'm not expecting some sort of 100-hour long JRPG, but it might be a nice 20-hour romp. Just hoping it has more to its world than just "go here for the next event".

>>379677770

Still got mine in storage in mint condition. Even have the cloth map and pendant (which is banged up from me wearing it at anime cons).

The best part is on the back of the package where Working Designs tries to help you come up with ways to make the punching puppet useful.

>Use it to re-enact your favorite movie scenes like the Godfather!
>[push button] "Every time I think I'm out..." [release button] "....they pull me back in!"

God I miss Working Designs.

>>379674050
is the story good? I saw gameplay, didnt like too much the action

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This. Plus the GU games. They did it best before SAO

>>379696285
>anything dothackers unknown
nigger please

>>379674914
>pretty bullshit padding

>bosses suddenly get 10x more health
>that dice boss

>>379678598
>All the games Working Design brought over are 10/10, honestly.

I mean, I know I'm going to get sperged at by nostalgia for this, but not really. Maybe like 10 out of the 3 dozen or so are top tier games, ignoring the ridiculous "10/10" meme.

I loved WD as much as anyone back in the day, but too much nostalgia isn't good for you. Mine settled down when I swallowed the hard pill that their localizations weren't actually good, it's just that they were less awful than most of the competition at the time. And they were competing against English localizations done by Jap teams, or even machine translations. They're a relic of a bygone era.

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>>379698039
>it's just that they were less awful than most of the competition at the time.
>Rewrites
>Good
As bad as most of the localizations of the time are I would never say WD's localizations are good or better than the competition, the only acceptable work they did was the Arc the Lad trilogy and even that is spotty as fuck, but sure as hell better than all the garbage they did to other games.
And even when it comes to rewrites most other companies did it better, see Vagrant Story, at least you can feel like a pretentious pseudointellectual with that shit, with WD you have farts and dick jokes.

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>>379691609
>>379692106
Thanks anon.

Question though - if I hack my Wii, can I play gamecube games on it? It's an early model that already accepts GC games, and I've been wanting to hack it to play Fatal Frame 4, never spent the time to do it though.

I really want to play Baten Kaitos Origins but I only have a PAL system and a toaster for a PC.

>>379678598
Grandia 1 wasn't brought over by WD. It was localized by an internal Sony team.

>>379696670
Oh fuck I just posted about this in another thread. This game is the fucking best. Underrated gem.

>>379698556
That's a valid stance too, Anon. The games with proper fan retranslations are vastly more enjoyable when played that way. I don't like the changes WD made either. I just personally find games that are garbled to the point of being virtually incomprehensible even worse, even if they have more faithful gibberish and no kiddie jokes/Western pop culture references. Two different kinds of awful.

>>379672781
My favorite RPG, flawed and all. Muza best bro.

>>379684043

This game was super generic and had all the popular crfting elements from RPGs of that era.

But the music was fucking gorgeous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xy9Q-BLp48

>>379693139

Legaia is far better than Dragoon my friend.

Play it then come back here so we can scream attack names at each other.

>>379695404
It's a translation error. She originally says "I used to love Cray," and explains how she has been rethinking it.

>>379680852
To be fair, the game does rather explicitly expect you to turn off random encounters for those parts, to minimize the "doing" of content you've already done before at that point.

Not to mention, considering how different the fights you "repeat" are, it's quite a mental leap to call them simply repeating content at that point.

>>379693139
Legaia is actually good, unlike LoD.

>>379680116
Khemia 2 has some great battle themes

>>379694524
Despite the clunky combat, the game grows on you. Even the monsters look cool.

>>379698995
You should be able to play gamecube games on a hacked Wii, before you hack yours you can always try see if your toaster can emulate them with Dolphin

>>379686336
Red, Blue, or Emilia

Once you have (at least one of) those down and you're more comfortable with the game's systems, quirks and general weirdness, try for some of the less-straight-forward characters, such as Asellus, T260 and Riki.

Probably a good idea to save Lute for last, or at least for once you're very comfortable with the game and its systems. His scenario is pretty much intro -> the entire world opens up for you to do whatever you want -> final dungeon. It's very easy to fuck yourself over if you aren't familiar with the game.

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>No one mentions hungry ghosts

>>379696064
Hopefully he meant Project Octopath Traveler, because Lost Sphear looks like more I Am Setsuna 2.0 garbage. Not that any game made by the Bravely team has much chance of being good.

>>379673116

The battle system is pretty terrible

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>>379669371
>good srpg series are all dead or ruined while Disgaea and Fire Emblem are alive

Feels bad tbqh.

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Vagrant Story, easily

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>no metal max
You guys need to be enlightened.

>>379702392
That guy, meant octopath but forgot the name. Never even heard of lost sphear.

>>379672897
I play this game every year. So fun. Only flaw is that it's incredibly easy and requires no strategy whatsoever

>>379672897
Fucking Devlin always hates you and triggers the bad ending, what the fuck is his problem?

>>379703191
Returns is great but after MM3 and 2R it's kind of hard to get back into it gameplay wise.
Still the best MM world, or region, for me though.

>>379694268
It's one of the best SNES games for sure. It starts weak but as soon as you relaise you're rebuilding the world with real-life locations, it becomes deep

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>>379693968

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>not a single mention of pic related
>square enix was good without the enix
Uh huh.

Grandia III

It's only issue is being linear.

>>379672313
I tried playinmg this on ppsspp, but it crashed
I literally got BSOD from trying to play this game on a PSP emulator.
I think the moment it crashes is when the first dialogue window is about to open.

>>379708065
>people still believe that merging with a non-dev publisher and using them as their publishing division had any impact on Square's development quality

Square went to shit on their own and the merger was their own fault to begin with because of Spirits Within's flop forcing their hand.

>>379706250
Quality reddit shrekting.

>>379684853
you can grind, but you have to grind on the correct enemies until you hit a certain level then move on to another type of enemy and so on.

>>379674590
The plot is so generic JRPG that the hilarious dub manages to make it better.

>>379708282
and the constant unskippable cutscenes in the most boring Grandia story ever

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>>379669371

that fucking localization man

>>379708282
>linear
>bad
Linearity is great, and necessary to tell a good story. The problem is that Grandia 3's story is (to an even larger degree than its predecessors) extremely cliche and cheesy, and the voice acting is horrible to boot.

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>>379672972
Next time use an image. This game was so easy to create completely broken characters.

>>379679486
Eternia is actually overlooked. Almost no one mentions it

>>379714008
no it's not you disgusting queer.

>>379714505
What's not?