Ace Combat

>Don't worry, stick with Trigger, you'll make it

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FULLY ERECT

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>>379667150
>Oh, really?

>>379666875
anyone else excited for what hopefully will be some kick ass VR?

>>379667409
Not really. I'm glad the VR component is an optional side component that doesn't affect the main game/story/gameplay.

THEY WENT BACK TO STRANGEREAL
THEY'RE BRINGING BACK STONEHENGE
THEY'RE BRINGING BACK THE KESTREL
THEY'RE BRINGING BACK THE CHEESY ANIME SHIT

FINALLY A DEV TEAM THAT FUCKING LISTENED

>>379667516
i just think VR and Ariel Combat sounds pretty perfect. I just hope is executed well.

>>379666875
>PC
Thank god, i've been itching for a decent military aircraft game for a long time.
Any recommendations as of now?
Nothing too realistic, just a decent game that can be played decently with a controller.

>A-10 still in service when planes with lasers and railguns are a thing
Thank you based PA.

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>>379667625
>Ariel

>>379666875
Does this mean >we get to play as the bad guys? Or are >we mercenaries?

>yfw we're playing as a revived Yellow Squadron

>>379667814
Convicts, aren't we?

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>Games takes place in 2020, Belka still responsible for the conflict, nice

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>>379668009
>2020
>there's a space elevator

>>379667814
Multiple routes. Cant wait to pilot the Arsenal Bird.

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>>379668067
>2015
>there's airborne aircraft carriers

>>379668130
>multiple routes
joli fuk my dik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJbmB9k2Y88

>>379668067
Welcome to Strangereal, motherfucker.

>>379668260
>>379668067
Why can't technology progress faster.
The Cold War shouldn't have ended.

Who are fighting with each other? Osean Federation and The Kingdom of Erusea right?

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>>379666875
MY WIFE IS GOING TO MAKE A CAMEO APPEARANCE.

>>379668361
Sounds like it's kind of a global fuckery, though Erusea and Osean seem to be the focus. I read somewhere that this takes place during the PSP game's story, which would imply the Aurelian and Leasathian forces are also at odds with eachother simultaneously.

>>379668329
The cold war went hot like 5 times in Strangereal, it's little wonder shit's wacky by this point in time.

That princess is such a cutie.

Can you customize the planes?

Osea did nothing wrong.

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>>379668260

>Farbanti
>could possibly get a redux of one of the best tracks of AC04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FKEcnxNyAI

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>>379668009

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>>379668361
>>379668497
they really shouldnt wasted more countries for a mobile game. i mean, fucking strangereal norse country mythology.
http://acecombat.wikia.com/wiki/Kingdom_of_Nordennavic

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Sugoi Sukhoi.

>After planned E3 footage at Sony's Press Conference
>Stage lights begin to dim, eventually making the entire hall dark
>Seconds pass
>Out of fucking nowhere
>"REX REX TREMENDAE"
>Entire audience lose their shit
>Screen shows remastered Megalith, Arkbird, Excalibur, and Aigaion
>Remastered gameplay is shown
>Everyone is crying
>Exclusive to PS4
>Sony wins E3

Osea=America
Erusea=France

Is this accurate?

>>379669002
I was thinking Erusea was Russia but I barely know any lore to begin with.

>>379669002
hard to tell desu, since even yuktobania is vaguely soviet, compared to estovakia and emmeria who are even more ambiguous.

Why are Erusea such assholes?
Do we need to break out the ribbons again?

why don't you guys just play sims?

>>379669191
Because they don't ask what a country is.

>>379669191
If I'm playing vidya its to have fun.

>>379669191
There's lore behind it.

>>379669191
what's wrong with something more arcade-y with some story on the side

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Would burn Osea to the ground for.

>>379666875
I want to make qt princess a POW and make her service my airmen

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>>379668329
>>379668260
>airborne aircraft carriers
Technically DARPA has made flying aircraft carriers, just on a much smaller scale.

Too bad Lockheed canceled their NUCLEAR POWERED pic related MONSTER.

I hope we don't have QTEs again.

>>379666875
But i like osea, they have nice city names

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I really want to buy a PS4 just for this.

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>>379669331
Link to the DARPA thing.
http://navaltoday.com/2017/01/11/video-us-navy-fa-18s-release-drone-swarms-in-technology-demonstration/

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semen demon name?

>>379668995
another thread, another delusional sonytard

>>379669191
A lot of us do. But we like a bit of silly arcade style fun too.

I mean, why watch James Bond when you could just read about real spies in dusty reports.

>>379666875
who else is buying this for both PS4 (mp) and PC (1440p-4k 60fps+)

>>379669452
Lunafreya Claire Von Erusea

C U M[/spoiler] H I S T O R I A
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>>379669443
>>379669331
DARPA has much better stuff.
https://www.google.com/patents/US20060145019

>>379669191
>why don't you want documentaries instead of gundam?

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>>379669653
shameful

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>steam

>>379669002
Only really for Osea, and tenuously so for that.

They're very much their own thing.
>>379668953
>they've wasted Nordennavic on this

that's fucking infuriating, I'd have loved night missions under the Aurora and shit

>Strangereal
>Latin Chorus

ROCK
HARD

Hold up, is the Kestrel a class of ship in Strangereal or are they literally doing Razgriz round 2?

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ISAF BTFO.

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>hey buddy what should be put in our trailer
>I can't think of anything better to include than this potato carrier

If I do not have a PS2, what is the best way to play the old AC games?

I want to get into it

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>>379669675
Bummer they cancel some cool stuff.
http://spacenews.com/darpa-airborne-launcher-effort-falters/

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>ITT: We speculate on how Belka is involved and is again responsible for everything.

ERUSEA A SHIT

a S H I T

>>379670013
North Point must not feel any heat at the moment because otherwise they'd call ISAF back together and cram ribbons down Erusea's throat

>yfw a Mobius Squadron Cameo

>>379669191
>why don't you just join the air force if you like planes?

>>379670020
Latest build of PCSX2 plays them perfectly as long as you stick to first person view.

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>>379670020
4,5 and zero form the holy trinity of the ps2 games. 5 and zero emulate well these days and while 4 is fucky, it can be brute forced if you have a really strong cpu.

>>379670065
>muh clay

>>379670154
Like i7 64k strong? I hope not, I really need to go to sleep tonight.

>>379669124
Euresia was made before there was any REAL clear-cut "this is Strangereal version of X country"

>>379669191
I personally don't like sims, I like the arcadey fun of the Ace Combat games and the atmosphere the games have. The radio chatter is so good. In most games if the enemy is like "wow it's the squad of badasses we're fucked" I roll my eyes but in AC it gets me all amped up. Couple that with the amazing music and you just feel so fucking cool gunning down dozens of enemy planes like it's nothing.

In what order do I play the Ace Combat games lore wise?

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>>379670065

>>379670154
Is Assault Horizon any good?

What about Assault Horizon plus for the 3DS?

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>>379670065
"fuck osea"

>>379669887
The Kestrel obviously became famous for it's role in the war so they named a successor ship after it. See NCC-1701A through E. Keep in mind this takes place 10 years after 5 and 25 years after Zero.

>>379670267
I don't know, I'm not familiar enough with emulated to say. All I do know is that 4 is fucked in hardware mode and that a good cpu is required to run it well on software.

>inb4 belka backed the country that declared war in order for them to lose

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>>379670057
>launching satellites
Nah, you need space-worthy vehicles for that.

LONG LIVE BELKA

>>379669191
Sims don't let you violate every single rule in the operating manual and common sense to preform ludicrious 'thread the needle' fly bys through tunnels barely big enough for your SU-37 to fit through.

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>>379670332
Assault Horizon isn't like the games people typically think of when they hear "Ace Combat" and has a bad rep for understandable reasons. Assault Horizon Legacy is a remaster of Ace Combat 2 and is pretty enjoyable.

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LONG LIVE BELKA

>>379670332
Assault Horizon is okay in a pinch, but you don't want to get it at full priced. The 3DS game is just a remake of 2, the stupid manuever and dogfighting stuff is entirely optional. Definitely get the 3DS one before going for Assault Horizon itself.

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When are Project Aces going to make a Macross game?

>>379670332
Assault Horizon is USAF cowadooty with real world locations/events, nothing like the other games and generally considered shitty

AHP is a remake of AC 2 iirc

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>>379670432
>our most advanced piece of tech looks like a penis covered in an aluminium condom
When will humanity finally develop an aesthetic spacecraft?

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Explain.

Is there a simple timeline guide to this series? I know 3 is at the end but are 1 or 2 relevant to anything else?

>>379670497
Probably never which is a shame because the Sky Crawlers game was alright.

>halfway through the game
>Finally break through Erusea's super weapon that's been fucking you over for at least 10 missions
>Destroy it in a blaze of glory
>Think the mission is about to end
>Suddenly electric guitar riff
>AWACS: "What's that? A single bandit is flying in low and fast"
>Allies: "What's that marking on the tail...oh God. It-it...looks like a ribbon!"

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>379670603
Multi player coop

>>379670603
In game cutscene?

>>379670395
>yfw Belka actually din du nothin and the war started because elements of the Osean airforce joined A World with no Boundaries but Osea refuses to put them on trial

>>379670603
Spot the player.

>>379670730
>game uninstalls itself and shorts your PSU to fry all your shit


Mobius, motherfucker.

BELKA DID NOTHING WRONG

>>379670730
>Mobius 01
>ever siding with Ersean fucking shits

he's the one who got their first and wrecked shop

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I have hopes for lab coat. Seems no nonsense without being obsessed with his research.

>>379666875
desu should have stuck with the normie audience and kept it in the real world like assault horizon...

these fictional settings suck desu

>>379670603

Customizable squadron loadouts like in AC5 obviously.

>>379669158
Some fans compare Emmeria and Estovakia to Canada and Romania for some reason, I mean, I don't object to a SR version of canada.

Do you think we'll see Pixy again?

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>>379668067
>Doesn't into Strangereal

>>379671006
wow I feel dumb now. Usea and Erusea sounded so similar in my head I got them confused

>>379670267
They ran okay on my stock 3570K.

>>379666875
>Burn Osea to the ground

RECLAIM RIGHTFUL BELKAN CLAY

>>379671097
>throwing a fucking fishing rod into the water

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>Osea attacksindiscriminately and has remorsefully injured countless innocent civilians
>remorsefully
How do you fuck up this badly?

>>379671240
what is that referencing

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pops coming back when?

>>379671097
nice bait

WE FLY FOR HER ROYAL HIGHNESS. FOR PRINCESS ROSA COSETTE " MIXTAPE" D'ELISE!

>>379671320

>Erusea
>Innocent

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>>379666875
>You think you can fly in my sky?

>>379671380
nah b, deadass thought assault horizon was the best game.

dfm was a bit broken (way to scripted in many instances), but it was a path in the right direction. instead of mastering it, they chickened out and reverted back to destroying your targets from distances you can barely see them. lock. shoot. repeat. boring.

plus the addition of attack heli missions, which were really well done, was a great addition to the series.

>>379671337
get the fuck out of here.

Drones and UAVs seem like a big theme in this game. How much do you wanna bet that the true villain is a Skynet-esque AI?

>>379671569
No I mean their choice of the word remorsefully. It doesn't fit at all. She's having a cry at how bad the Oseans are but at the same time she's saying that they were remorseful in their killing of civilians.

Remorselessly is the word that should have been used.

>>379671320
Loli maids best girls, calling it now.

>>379671638
what is it referencing

>>379669452
she looks like shes on her death bed, built like a rail, sickly pale, sunken in eyes, thank you miss skellington.

Serious plot twist she has cancer.

>>379671097
Assault Horizon sucked dick.

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>>379668009
Oh shit, I had forgotten about this.

>>379671782
it was a path in the right direction. the unique game mechanic in ac:ah was in the right direction, but they never mastered it. they should have doubled down and mastered it with ac7.

since they're going back to their 'roots' ace combat 7 is doomed to fail. we might never see a successor to ac7.

>>379671340
>pops comes back flying in a war for a third time
>he wins again
I can see that happening.

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>>379671978
we wouldn't be up to AC7 if the roots failed in the first place

>>379671691
I think they were trying to say something like "and has, regrettably, injured countless innocent citizens"
Remorsefully it supposed to be "it's remorseful that this happened," which of course is not really how you use that word.

Tell me /v/, what is a nation?

>>379670013
>>379670125

Imagine a mission where Mobius 1 shows up and is your wingman.

Nah, more like you're his wingman

>>379668481
WHERE NIGGA

>>379671978
better to be resurrected as a hero than to see yourself die as an assault horizon

>>379671671
Only if Belka built it.

>>379666875

Everybody noticed the ruins of Stonehenge near the beginning, right? Perfect backdrop for a climactic dogfight.

>>379672089
ace combat 1-5 was only profitable because developing games for the ps2 was crazy cheap. there's a reason why ps2 had 4 times the library of the ps3 and 360 (not combined)

developing a GOOD game was pretty easy for the PS2. there's a reason why we got GTA games every 1-2 years on the PS2 while know it takes a good 4-6 years to get a new GTA game.

Ace Combat is doomed to fail unless if they go past their PS2 mechanics with current gen graphics.

BELKA TEAMING UP WITH ERUSEA WHEN

>>379672250
sad to see your game die as just a ps2 level game with current gen graphics than to see it at least die trying to improve itself.

>>379666875
>Xbox one
What?

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>>379672368
Yep, and I'm pretty sure pic related is one of the craters from the Belkan nukes.

>>379672394
Nothing about Ace Combat is PS2. Its PS1. And its good.

What are your hopes and dreams for mission environments?
>Flying above that same location at night from AC4, where you had to shoot down cruise missiles flying towards ISAF landing forces (fully rendered Aurora Borealis when?)
>Desert at twilight
>Sunny day with a few clouds above farmlands and forests
>Endless desert at midnight with a full moon
>Sunny day above a small island chain with reefs visible from the air

How is the gameplay different than 5?

>>379672582
>i got u on a technicality

sorry man i forgot to mention the ps1, but i would expect you to be intelligent enough for my argument to also include the ps1.

developing for the ps1 was even cheaper.

>>379672502
I'm sure it'll be fine. mechanics don't need to be complex in a game like this, they're not what make the games great.

>>379672576

Nah, it's a Ulysses meteor crater, just like the island one right after.

>>379672502
QTEs and on-rails tailing do not evolve a series, much less chopper missions that devolve into mission-long turret sections. A japanese developer should not make a game to cater to western, modern FPS binging audiences, as such titles will never attract them in any sort of long-term sense whatsoever and they'd go back to their CoD eventually.

>>379670603
> that ass on top
> Thicc

>>379672767
If Japan does not cater to western audiences their is no game.

>>379672591

You know there's gonna be some shenanigans involving that space elevator.

>>379672591
I'm just hoping for something as comfy as the ocean battle in AC5, when part of the Yuke fleet deserted and Pops started playing that old-ass song on the radio.

>>379672764
I see, makes more sense.

>>379672832
Then you clearly have no idea how something like Dark Souls, Monster Hunter or otherwise are massive mainstream successes here in the west.

Catering to western audiences got us shit like Shadow the Hedgehog (the game), because they flatout don't understand what the west actually likes or how to reign themselves in. Let people do what they do, don't force them to appeal.

>>379669191
I can't fly though a railgun barrel at Mach 2 in a sim.

>>379672767
the on-rails sucked. but it was a path in the right direction. ace combat needs to be closer and personal, but they need to master the mechanic to make it so that you're still in control of the jet. ac:ah was the first ac where the machine gun was actually used, and useful.

and the attack helicopter missions were great. they didn't have none of that meme on-rails mechanic either. the bomber missions and ac-130 missions were also a breath of fresh air.

>>379672734
not asking for 'complex' mechanics. asking for something beyond the identical mechanics we've seen since AC4... and really it's been mostly same since AC1/AC2 on the PS1.

>>379669191
Same reason some people like Burnout over Gran Turismo, it's not hard to get if you aren't an autist.

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>2018

>>379672989
dark souls and monster hunter has actually had improving and unique mechanics with each new game.

ace combat, with the exception of ac:ah, was the exact same thing beyond the better graphics.

>>379673159
Why make something new when you can just repackage old mechanics with fancy graphics and the shit birds here will eat it up.

Friendly reminder that Belka did everything wrong.

>Playing as Oseans
>on sortie in a fairly normal mission against Eruseans
>their Ace squadron joins the fray, practically early game yellow tier hard to deal with
>unidentified aircraft shows up on radar
>Zooms past you, it's an F-22
>your AWACS tries to figure out who the hell it is
> <<...>>
>one of the Eruseans realizes he has a fucking Ribbon insignia
>immediately they all run for their goddamn lives

>>379666875
Fuck Osea for balkanizing Belka, I hope they suffer the same fate. Fucking assholes.

>>379673159
Then bench the on-rails shtick till it's actually good. Don't rehash it in the first major release after a failure. And what makes Zero so much better is that it has more dogfighting and less strafe run simulator. Although it can mitigate that frustration, it's something you won't get in a helicopters missions.

>>379670065
Belka isn't Soviet Russia but they do have the Russian nack for proclaiming eternal enmity to anyone that even so much as blows up a single one of their tanks.

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>>379673307
shut up yuo osean pig, belka is of great nation and will conquer teh whole world. mark my word, superpower by 2020.

>>379672721
The gameplay of Ace Combat is not tied to the hardware the game is built on. I referenced PS1 because the series started there and all the features in the PS2 games are also available on PS1 ace combats, even missile cam/ tracking.
There's an Ace Combat on the GBA and 3DS to show how the hardware is not a factor for the series and it can either be really good or bad.
>demanding current gen features without defining what those features are
>plays the intelligence card with an empty hand
>somehow he thinks he knows whats good for the series when assault horizon was panned by series fans for auto play mechanics
Just play Tom Clancy's Hawx 1 and 2. Both of those games also have auto generated flight paths for dummies, and they didn't make it big.

>>379672881
>someone shipped a superweapon up the space elevator to rain death across the planet
>have to blow open the base doors of the elevator and do a tunnel run up to the moon

>>379670603

Customisable wingmen?

With all the rehashes and remakes popping up these days it boggles me that the older Ace Combats haven't gotten the same treatment.

>>379673676
>tunnel run up the entire fucking elevator in a delphinus or some shit

my dick would be so erect

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>>379673676
>>have to blow open the base doors of the elevator and do a tunnel run up to the moon
>tunnel run
>tunnel
>run
Stop. I can only get so erect.

>>379673794
>Remastered Electrosphere

We can dream.

>>379673441
>Erusians losing their shit and scurrying away, leaving a trail of spaghetti behind them from seeing a ribbon insignia

M-masaka!

By the way, did you guys play the AC games with the Japanese audio, or the English dub?

>>379673794
>With all the rehashes and remakes popping up these days
I wish Fallout NV gets a proper remaster with a proper engine and gunplay.

>>379673676

This but:

>Use Osea's mass driver to launch into low orbit
>Tunnel run all the way down the space elevator

>>379673919
>At E3, the announce Electrosphere Remaster for the Switch

>>379673635
HAWX was bad because it is exactly Ace Combat but people can't seem to see that...

Oh yeah it has a guide feature if you really want to use it.

>I referenced PS1 because the series started there and all the features in the PS2 games are also available on PS1 ace combats

Exactly. Get a guy to play AC2 and AC6 and they'll be playing the exact same thing minus the better graphics.

none of the features I want are current gen... the features I want were mostly introduced with assault horizon.

literally the only issue with assault horizon was how on-rails the dogfight mode was. but the closer and detailed destruction present in assault horizon created a new level of immersion not present in any game.

the new ground attack feature in assault horizon actually made ground attack enjoyable instead of the dull and boring thing it was in any other AC game.

the helicopter missions were great and unique.

the bomber missions were great and unique.

the side gunner missions could be boring, but they were still solid (not overdone and it was only one mission not including the prequel mission)

>>379669191
>playing sims
and have only 8 missiles at most? No thanks.
I want at least 60 missiles on my plane + some kind of impossible special weapon.

>>379674010
I decided to replay 5 a few weeks ago with the Japanese voices, but my mind was so accustomed to Chopper's trash-talking and AWACS' nagging I just couldn't do it.

>>379674010
Dub. I tried it with the Japanese track on 5, but since I actually have to be doing something while the subtitles are up, it was a bit of a hassle.

>>379674215
>Chopper
Thanks for reminding me...

>>379674121
>...

don't you belong on reddit or something

>>379674323
>you belong on this website

not an argument

>>379674010

English of course, I can't imagine "Altman, use your hand grenades! Dammit, they've got a flamethrower!" being nearly as captivating in another language.

Reminder:The game is going to end with you piloting a new version of the Starfighter completely redesigned for full strangereal antics. You'll start in space and dogfight your way through the atmosphere back into the clouds.

>>379674121
So you have shit taste, good for you.

>>379674397
>>379674216
>>379674215
I use Japanese voices for about every other game, but for AC it just has to be English voices.

>>379673159
I don't really have any problem with the old mechanics, it's an arcade game, it's not like mechanics that simple age badly

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>>379668497
>yfw Gryphus One in AC7

>>379672502
>a ps2 level game
ps2 had the best games
I fail to see how being a "ps2 level game" is a bad thing in any way.

>>379674514
They are repetitive after 5 games. I couldn't even finish Ace Combat 3 their is no depth it's boring.

>>379674491
not an argument

>>379674514
literally keeping the exact same mechanics is one way to slowly kill off your fanbase and kill the series.

ac7 will not have the attention ac4 or ac5 had... because it's the same thing.
people who played ac5 but will not play ac7 are just as much as fans of the people who want to play ac7. the only difference is that they got bored from the same thing.

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>>379674397
>tfw played 04 so many times I can hear that line perfectly in my head
send help

>>379674645
Remaking the same game over and over like Call of Duty is a bad thing.

>>379674685
>>379674672
so this is what the mind of someone who doesn't pay attention to it at all is like

no wonder you like the wannabe CoD

>>379674645
ps2 had the best games for 2004.

release a 2004 grade game today and people will spit in its face.

plus i much prefer modern games over decade old games. youre probably influenced by nostalgia in your favourability to ps2 games... everyone is guilty of that.

>>379674706
we need cute girls in fighter jets
and no i don't mean the one that transforms into a fighter jet

>>379674489

You'll go from piloting a Starfighter to actually becoming a 'starfighter'

Pottery

>2018
>18

;_;

GOD BLESS OSEA

>>379670497
That webm is basically, unironically the first mission of Unsung War.

>feeding the troll

fuck you guys are dumb

Almost the entirety of this game was outsourced to Singapore btw under a new studio :^).

>>379674685
Did you play any of the ps2 trilogy games? There were plenty of changes to the gameplay, like the ace styles and wingman controls.

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>>379674902
I like how you think son.

>>379674732
First of all, they change enough, and have been refining the mechanics over time. Going from say, 0 to 4 feels like a world of difference. 4 feels sluggish as fuck to control.
Not that you'd know since you gave up on 3.

second of all,
>Remaking the same game over and over like Call of Duty is a bad thing.
no its not. If you want a different game, play a different series. It's silly to want a sequel to be radically different from the predecessor.

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>>379674902
loli lieks QAAMs

>>379674948
Only real reason to show the space elevator, the starfighter, and satellite shots of the planet. Japanese love spoiling everything in a way that you don't really know are spoilers.

Chances are since it's Bamco they'll borrow a little Sunrise and have the space elevator collapse Gundam style.

They'll probably even have a Shattered Skies reference when the Starfighter breaks through the sky.

>>379675073
little girls would gloc so fucking easy

DFM was a mistake anyone else who said otherwise is daft. Only thing that AH got right was the soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6hpReqjTrA

Why does a dumb shooty arcade game have some of the best video game OST's of all time? It makes no sense.

No Switch version? Wtf???

>>379674121
Hawx was actually kind of boring. I don't even know why but both games were hard to play through. It was even worse than Assault Horizon. That's saying something.

On the other hand. I think the most boring Ace Combat was Joint Assault. For some reason the game feel wasn't as good as the numbered games or Ace Combat X, the predecessor.

Both Hawx series and Joint Assault both took place in the real world. Assault Horizon too.
This made it generic to me, with the inclusion of stereotypical russian bad guys with strange accents and names to complete it.
Maybe the reason these arcade flight sims are good is because of the unique worlds, and music, and they get boring when they move the setting to the real world.

For Assault Horizon, the only mission I truly felt was revolutionary for Ace Combat was the one where you get to pilot a strategic bomber for only bombing purposes. And that puts it above Hawx and Joint Assault for me. Joint Assault has a 747 though. But that was anything but a fun run.

>>379674706

I can quote pretty much all the dialogue from that mission. The Yellows Squadron panicking on seeing a full Mobius Squadron, the commandos becoming more and more desperate as the mission goes on, their leader's unwavering faith that Mobius 1 will destroy the generators in time, it's all insanely memorable.

>>379674884
>release a 2004 grade game today and people will spit in its face.

You realize there's been plenty of remasters and repackages and they've been plenty successful? Kingdom heart games for example, have been re-released what, 3 times? KH 1.5, KH 2.5, KH 2.8.
They sold just fine.
So you are literally wrong. Not a matter of opinion, factually wrong.

>plus i much prefer modern games over decade old games. youre probably influenced by nostalgia in your favourability to ps2 games... everyone is guilty of that.
and I wish I read the rest of the post before replying.
10/10 you got me with your bait.

>>379675062
mostly gimmicks and none of them updated the core gameplay in any meaningful way.

>>379675202
You have to understand something. Ace Combat is essentially a thinly veiled mecha anime as a videogame. From the way they handle ace pilots, to the enemies, right down to the finale, it's basically a giant /m/ series but with jet fighters instead of humanoid mechs.

Generally speaking mecha series get fantastic soundtracks.

>>379675271
>>379674121
HAWX while not AC is a decent game. At least the first one though. Assistance Off Mode made for some great fun. Not to mention it had a HUGE Aircraft roster which was fun. Had Ubisoft not killed it,it would have been a decent series.

>>379675301
Yet they were changes, and i'd say the new kinds of missions and ace styles were enough to significantly change the gameplay.

>>379666875
YOU NO TAKE BELKAN CLAY

>>379675425
>Had Ubisoft not killed it,it would have been a decent series.
On the downside, the next HAWX will be based on the current political turmoil in real life

>>379675297
The Japan domination of 2017 is basically people loving old style games again too. Plus mobile phones being filled with PS1 style RPGs is bringing people back to liking the PS1/PS2 era of game mechanics.

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>>379674672
>>379674685
>literally keeping the exact same mechanics is one way to slowly kill off your fanbase and kill the series.
Which is honestly strange considering that the mechanics in AC: AH was what put people off the game, because it changed the way it played along with changing the setting.

Personally after playing the games countless time I gotta say they still hold up today because they don't have some weird control scheme, you just have your aeroplane, and you dodge missiles and shoot things, sometimes less is more and it's hard to fuck that up and it's simplicity adds to its longevity as a whole which is why it's pretty easy to pick up and just play.

As far as predicting how people will react to the game as if the mechanics are going to make or break it is a huge thing to say considering we know little about how it plays other than assuming it's just the same thing. maybe we get better wingmen controls and better wingmen AI. honestly, there could also be air strategy tied in with these commands. comparatively, you're asking to change how a movement scheme works because you're sick of walking, taking cover and killing dudes.

there's not much you can ultimately do in a game like this other than add in weird drifting like hawks, or some weird air jump feature without taking away agency from the player and we found that isn't a great way to do aircraft games with AH because even if you're just locking on to an enemy from a distance and killing them or you know where they spawn and they'd otherwise be a hard kill it's still you making conscious decisions bout taking them down.

Frankly claiming that people won't play it because it's the same thing is a silly statement because honestly, that's all a lot of ace combat fans have wanted for the past 10 years, just an arcade flight game set in their favorite not-earth of choice with great characters and neat boss fights.

>>379671129
That's like asking if GALM Squadron will ever officially get re-translated into GARM, like it should be.

>>379674672
>>379674685
you are the same kind of person that complains about sonic mania.

>>379672126
A miserable pile of secrets.

HAVE AT YOU!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80XAJKqRU9k

>>379668067
Fuckhuge doomsday meteors made humans rush some tech trees to the detriment of diplomacy.

Okay I've never given the slightest shit about VR but this game would be fucking mindblowing to experience in VR.

>>379675297

>2004 grade
>remaster
bpck one.

plus packaging literal old games and selling them as new isn't the same thing as developing a brand new game with the quality of a ps2 era game.

people buy remastered or repackaged games knowing those games are actually old... most people buy them to relive the experience they had 10 years ago. people who buy them to play them for the first time know they are getting a game developed a decade ago, and there's nothing wrong with that. but no one would buy an actually new game if it had the quality of 10 years ago.

you'd be lying to yourself if you say you wouldn't be extremely annoyed if ac7 had ps2 era quality.

So, speculah on the themes of AC7:

'War is bad': Duh, it's Ace Combat. People are going to mope about senseless killing and in the end everybody got played by the Belkans again.

'One last hurrah': The human fighter pilots are going to defy the odds for one last time and defeat the next generation of supposedly invincible drone/AI operated fighters.

'Reaching for the stars': The 'Starfighter', the space elevator - we're going to space at one point.

>>379675723
and it's a wonder why it wasn't included in last years Sony Vr showcase considering it's a perfect game for showing it off and it's also not a tech demo.

>>379675553

That always annoys the crap outta me. How did they manage to get that wrong when Final Fantasy games on the SNES did it right?

>>379673273
I couldn't give a shit about anything except the flight variable aircraft FINALLY having the ridiculous maneuverability they should.

>>379675485
every game has changes. you're only lying to yourself if you're going to count small changes as meaningful just for the sake of an argument.

>>379675548
>Which is honestly strange considering that the mechanics in AC: AH was what put people off the game
ac:ah was the most successful and sold ace combat game.
only difference is the cult following of ac4 and ac5 games complained about ac:ah.

>>379675808
>'One last hurrah': The human fighter pilots are going to defy the odds for one last time and defeat the next generation of supposedly invincible drone/AI operated fighters.
My bet is on this one; they've been seriously hyping up the drone aspect in all the trailers they've released.

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>>379675758
>you'd be lying to yourself if you say you wouldn't be extremely annoyed if ac7 had ps2 era quality.
If i'm buying a sequel, i'm expecting familiar territory unless I know full well that it's doing some major changes.

Enough is enough, you're just debating the same thing over and over that nostalgia is bad and the series is PS2 quality because of flight mechanics that don't really need some significant change. Everything the series fans like is bad, but everything you like is correct. Go bother some other thread.

>>379670065
>>379673505
>>379673537
Still salt over having to nuke your own boarders?

>>379675808

Belkans weren't involved in 4 or 6 and neither of those games hammered an anti-war theme home, it doesn't necessarily have to be there.

>>379675921
Nah, you're the one who;s lying of you're going to say a series of games didn't change their gameplay and then move the goalposts once given examples.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9d6qe_3o-0

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>>379676017
>Belkans weren't involved in 4 or 6
That's what they want you to think.

>>379676017
Who do you think helped developed the Aigaion?

>>379675808
I hope we get to fight the ghost from macross plus but then something clever happens to subvert our expectations.

>>379675808
Skies Unknown is clearly a title with a double meaning. It probably references both space and the idea of planes without pilots meaning you'll never know the sky again. Plus the statement about the color of the sky can probably be an allusion to the blackness of space.

The Starfighter is an odd choice of planes though unless they're going to have the super plane of AC7 be Starfighter II redesigned to look like the usual super plane style.

>>379675698
never played sonic other than the few originals.

never thought much about the sonic series.
dont really know about people complaining about sonic.

dont really care about sonic.

my opinions here only reflect opinions on ace combat. dont try to convert it to something else.

>>379675425
assistance off mode was interesting until i realized its really nothing more than a weird camera angle that gives you crazy maneuverability. i liked it because i abused the shit out of it in online mode because most people didnt seem to want to turn off assistance mode.

>>379666875
I'll never get why western devs have such a hard-on for 30fps to make things look more "cinematic" when this trailer and a lot of cutscenes in MGSV looking stunning in 60fps.

>>379675921
I feel like this is a result of AH being released during a time that video games are a lot more visible in the public eye and also being marketed as a call of duty style game. ace combat is, after all, a Japanese series and I speculate the scope of knowledge on these games were pretty small when magazines were the way of knowing about games and not the internet.

Video games go through trends and assault horison is a game that exemplifies the notion of copying what's popular or cashing in on a trend.

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can't wait to get my ass in MiG 21

fuck, I love Ace Combat

All this talk about drones make me think that AC7 will eventually reference to NEMO in an off-hand way.

>>379675758
>>remaster
they changed literally nothing about the gameplay, you dumbass.

>most people buy them to relive the experience they had 10 years ago
source?

>you'd be lying to yourself if you say you wouldn't be extremely annoyed if ac7 had ps2 era quality.
Yeah m8 I'm sure your tastes are universal and no one could ever possibly disagree without lying to themselves.

>no one would buy an actually new game if it had the quality of 10 years ago.
There's no such thing as "quality of 10 years ago". old mario games are still some of the top platformers. Doom is still one of the best fps games. Baldurs gate 2 is still one of the best RPGs of all time. Even in terms of shitty games, the people that actually like, say halo games, will say halo 3 or ODST are the best games.

You can just file all those opinions to nostalgia m8. People are replaying those classics all the time. Some poeple who play doom for the first time these days weren't even born when Doom came out. That game is 24 years old (according to wikipedia). It's still fucking great.

>>379675921
Yet Assault Horizon was reviewed worse than the ps2 games. Besides, sales don't indicate quality at all.

>>379676017
> or 6
Actually they were... Mission 9

>>379674121
I unironically liked an old ass Ace Combat clone that was basically Electrophere but still had it's Japanese stuff left in. And I can't fucking remember the name of it but you could pilot WW2 spitfires and shit as well as advanced gen jets.

I can't even remember if it was a 360 game or PS2

>Near the end of the game
>Music dies down, comms go silent
>CUM HISTORIA

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>>379676098
>that "the belkan war" narration at the end
I audibly laughed.

>>379676053
>moving goalposts
more like taking the meaning of my sentences too literally. most people can true meaning through context.
the games remained unchanged other than a few meaningless new features.

do you also go a rant when people use america to mean the USA?

>>379676191
Most western trailers look like shit. They have shit directors who don't know what they're doing. 30fps is a sort of compensation measure I'd assume.

Japanese games also tend to actually run at 60fps even on consoles which a lot of western games don't even try to achieve.

>>379676171
>assistance off mode was interesting until i realized its really nothing more than a weird camera angle that gives you crazy maneuverability.
You really like taking the fun out of everything don't you?

>>379676285
reviewed worse but more successful...

gets you thinking.

>>379676245
Well its obviously going to lead into electrosphere in some way, given the AI theme.

>>379676373

REX
REX TREMENDAE

>>379675921
>ace combat 4
>introduced RTB for reloading and repairs (lower difficulty) mid mission, introduced choosing and buying loadouts

>ace combat 5
>dialog options, ability to choose between missions a or b two times, which influences which aircraft comes to the shop, four aircraft per squad, where you buy aircraft for everyone, aerial photography mission, also has continuous missions where you can't change aircraft for story reasons (you're still flying the same sortie)

>ace combat zero
>mission path changes depending on your kills and behavior which influences which aces you fight against

>>379675425
It was decent at best yes. But its not ace combat. Happy to know that the late Tom Clancy was a fan of Ace Combat seeing as he had two made under his name. It had some weird mission where if you didn't follow the exact flight path you had to do it again, just to advance a mission.

>>379676171
>my opinions here only reflect opinions on ace combat. dont try to convert it to something else.
I'm making a comparison you dolt.

>making a game that the fans want? Nah they should appeal to the "normie audience" (your wording)
literally the same thing told about sonic mania.

>>379676454
well do you think it was a unique and good feature? or was the only fun in the feature in its ability to abuse it online?

>>379676462
>reviewed worse but more successful
>managed to kill Ace Combat for nearly a decade
>Ace Combat comes back and disregards AH entirely
Really throttles the thrust vectoring

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>>379674706
I played 04 so many times that years later when I learned about the glitched green skin for the Falken, a skin I never got, I flipped my shit.

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>>379668260
Japs sure love Sentou Yousei Yukikaze

>>379676462
No it wasn't successful. Unless you consider being panned by the vast majority of the Ace Combat fanbase as being awful. Heck even Project Aces has had to come out multiple times since then to assure their consumers that they would not be returning to DFM at all.

>>379676098
amazing

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>>379676373
>watching the teaser trailer for the first time
>hearing that bit of The Unsung War they played on the piano
I became hype incarnate.

NEMESIS

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>>379670352
>25 years after Zero
>yfw cipher is probably retired and disappeared somewhere without a trace

GIVE ME A FUCKING NAME

>>379676462
Yeah, gets me thinking that sales don't mean anything. Hitman Absolution had more sales than the New Hitman but was much worse, probably because absolution soured the expectations of customers. If Assault Horizon sold so well, why didn't they make another?

>>379676521
>AC4
>CHOOSING MISSILES. NO CORE GAMEPLAY CHANGES

>AC5
>DIALOGUE OPTIONS. NO EFFECT ON CORE GAMEPLAY

>ACX
>MISSIONS CHANGE. NO CORE GAMEPLAY CHANGES

all these changes are on par with call of duty getting new killstreaks but still being the same shit in essence.

>>379675425
I still feel that the dumb mission where you have to pilot the civilian plane low with no radar assistance is a casual filter for that game.

>>379676384
that's not exactly a great comparison there, I mean a thing you could pass off as a small change is the addition and then detraction of the [YES><NO] from ace combat 5 which I personally enjoyed to a great extent, that was a great little conversational mechanic that I was devastated to find didn't exist in zero, however it's not needed in zero, that's not the point though, the point is that that small mechanic made me feel like I had even a semblance of agency in the conversations which was a nice addition to the games heavy dialogue and while it might just be as small as a button press its impact is not meaningless and it's something that in a vacuum could easily be misconstrued as a meaningless mechanic that changes nothing.

>>379676801
>DIALOGUE OPTIONS. NO EFFECT ON CORE GAMEPLAY
Blaze, have you listened to that album I gave to you?

I seriously have more respect for the faggots that spend money on ace combat infinity than anybody that attempts to defend ass hor.

>>379676549
normies can be fans of the game too.
you're not more of a fan than they are of AC:AH.

>>379676586
it didnt kill the game.
people forget Ace Combat Infinity. which was the worst thing in the series.

I want an ace combat where enemies have and use special (XMAA, QAAM) weapons on you. I played so much AC shit is just too easy now.

>>379676567
The Fun in Assistance Off mode was goofing off in free flight mode. And to me personally using it only had it's Advantages in certain situations online.

Assistance Off is part of what gave HAWX it's identity. It was one of the things that people loved about the game to say that feature was not unique or good would be a farce.

>>379671578
Pilots are so fucking cool.

>>379676798
because the publishers pussied out from the negative reception.

nothing more.

>>379675869
One figures that if your game has a dog squadron named after a Norse myth super-dog, you'd get it right simply though osmosis but some nips still cannot into L.

>>379676943
Infinity only exists because Assault Horizon nearly killed the franchise. Even then the game was fine to play but ruined by grindy bullshit.

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>>379676858
>tfw dropped $200 dollars on Infinity in the first month because I just wanted to fly with my buddies

>>379676224
Why don't you play a fully fucking modeled MiG21 in DCS world?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDmRklv3Nk8

>>379676384
As i said before, the mere addition of customizable wingmen in 5 changed the game significantly. Of course it wasn't majorly drastic like DFM but ultimately that proved to be awful. People don't say "never changed" unless it never changed. Also I pray that you never be subjected to a rant if this is what you think one is.

>>379675959
If we're fully shaft deep back into strangereal again, Ace Combat will eventually have "enhanced" pilots like Gundam and Armored Core do.

>>379677163
Not enough pilots screaming at each other about MUH IDEALS

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>>379666875
>Starfighter

>>379676098
Reminds me, do you think PJ got cucked by his buddy post-mortem?
He did have a girlfriend back at the airbase.

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>>379676858
agreed, fellow buddy

>>379676995
In higher difficulties in both Zero and 5, aces use flares to evade your missiles.

>>379677241
So you are not after mig 21 then?

>>379677028
Yeah, because people didn't like it, thus people wouldn't buy another one. If you got a franchise you don't want to ruin the entire series with changes your customers don't want.

>>379677085
AC7 only exists because AC:AH made decent money.

chekm8

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>>379677260
>tfw the nanosecond PJ said he had a gf I knew he was going to die in the most gruesome way possible
You just had to open your mouth, didn't you?

>shooting shit down and blowing shit up
>huge zerg rush of fighters come out of nowhere
>have to survive it for a certain time AC6 style
>Suddenly, that short Spanish guitar intro for Pixy appears
>Mysterious fighter shaped oddly like a prototype FALKEN materialises out of nowhere and helps you out by anally raping enemies
>The aging voice of a middle-aged man breaks the cacophony of missle locks and warnings
><You're pretty good... Buddy!>
>you're left by yourself until the mission ends
>post mission de-briefing has a small line where they mention how they've only found one record of the aircraft, which had only once produced during the final days of the Belkan War, and that almost no one has seen it.

>>379677360
im saying the on-rails feature of the dfm was bullshit. which is the focus of the negative reviews.

but it was a step in the right direction. better than playing it safe and keeping it unoriginal since AC2.

>Burn Osea
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAUAUAHAUAUAUAUUAHAUAUAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH
Belka did nothing wrong.

>>379676801
the idea that every new game should reinvent the wheel is retarded. It's called a sequel for a reason. If you want completely different core mechanics, why not make a new series?

>>379677389
Nah, it exists because infinity made decent money. if AH was profitable they would make more AH.

>Pixy was active during the Erusean war in 04
in hindsight, how many memorable characters may still be willing to dive back into the skies nowadays

>>379677389
By your logic Infinity is the reason AC7 exists because it managed to make enough money to prove the franchise is viable. ;^)

Infinity also leaned hard on strangereal nostalgia and guess what? Back to strangereal.

infinity chekm8 shitposter-kun

>>379667625
Agreed, I'm going to purchase a PSVR with the game.

>>379677508
well i think the ace combat series is doomed to lose attention until it is dead for good if it continues sticking to what is 'proven to work'

i really liked the immersion created with ac:ah. it had promise but it was ruined by on-rails mechanics. they needed to polish this new feature than ditch it.

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>grinding through 5
>10,000 off the Falken
>go to load my save but accidently write over it with a completely new one
>mfw

>>379676801
>Core Gameplay Changes
Honestly, you need to define how the games should change or why it should, but I think you should play Ace Combat 3 for that. A lot of changes you might be expecting can be found in that game as they would not be viable in the other games of the series for reasons. You can change the outcomes of all the missions in that game and there are missions where you can crash both in the sky and on the ground.
There's missions there where you just race to the end of a map while evading moving buildings.

>ACX
Actually you are wrong. Ace Combat X is also unique and arguably superior to Ace Combat Zero in terms of mission changes.
Whenever you pick a mission, the enemy Ace Units move around the map like a chess board too.
Like the Alect squadron. Those guys were pretty challenging to fight because you can end up meeting them on a mountain map and they're all AA guns and SAMs.

None of the Ace Combats are the same.

>>379677481
>but it was a step in the right direction
You need to explain yourself on this.

>>379677495
>Believing in Erusean propaganda
Of course, what should I expect from an irradiated Belkan scum

>>379666875
One of these days I'll start playing these games.

But that day isn't today.

>>379677389

Infinity saved the AC franchise brah, even if it was F2P bullshit

>>379677481
What also was the focus of the reviews was the unnecessary COD aping and the plot. You can change the gameplay somewhat sure, but people buy Ace Combat for Ace Combat, you don't need to change the setting for no good reason.

>>379677656
>well i think the ace combat series is doomed to lose attention until it is dead for good

Besides, despite your dislike of infinity, it did make plenty of money for them. So clearly, the "proven to work" approach works fine.

If project aces wants to create something completely new they can try a new series. It might work, it might not, but either way, what would be the point of continuing the ace combat series if its in-name only?

>>379677779
Unironically unplug your ethernet cable and don't come back until you've played at least Zero.

>>379675005
you mean Shattered Skies

>>379669452
Looks like a mix of crimean prosecutor and the heir of spain

>>379677771
>believing oseans
>at all
>when they're on par with CNN
gross

>>379676617
I would have liked it too if not for the goddamn aliens being named fucking Pixies. My western brain can handle one badass with that name and one only.

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>near the end of the game
>flamenco guitar starts playing

>>379666875
What's the aircraft banking at 0:51?

>>379676794
He's secretly Pops.

>>379677763
upclose combat against other jets. destruction and pursuit done up close. better immersion. aka known as DFM mode.

upclose ground attack path against ground targets. guidance and destruction done up close. better immersion.

the DFM mode was ruined by on-rails features which effected the game as a whole. if they refined the DFM mode to do away with the on-rails control of the aircraft and at times way too erratic camera movement, it could have been perfected. the emphasis being the game had upclose pursuit and destruction. i actually saw the targets instead of a red box saying they are locked on.

the ground attack mechanic was great as it is. not ruined by on-rails.

>>379669191
Because sims won't let me launch an A-10 from an aircraft carrier to go and shoot down a satellite before it hits a city

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>>379676617
What's not to love?

>>379677929
Don't you have asteroids to die to?

>>379677929
>believing in belkan fake news

>>379678047

The Starfighter, it's just a front view

>>379670603
I hope the final trailer has no american *spits* planes

>>379678120
>>379678121
>implying belka was bad all along
>when osea starts jewing people while belka is dying
so this is osea all along?

>>379671109
>https://www.google.com/patents/US20060145019
They just sound like Baltic states to me.

Also, I'm confused. From the trailer it seems to me like all the characters are Erusean, and Osea is the bad guy this time. Aside from that opening line of "the kingdom of Erusea declared war on the Osean Federation" which just sounds like a propaganda radio broadcast, same with occupying the space elevator.

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>>379678009