what was the single most anti consumer move?

>>379638464
Starforce DRM

Split screen and couch co op stop being an issue for you after you become an adult.

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>>379638464
A lot of games stopped having splitscreen a while ago. Sad to see it missing from h5 but how could people get so assmad about it?

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Steam setting up

PAID MODS

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>>379638628
halo 5 would require 4 times as many xboxes, games, and tvs. even if you are dying to lighten your wallet, its still just inconvenient

>>379638464
That online pass thing that used to combat used sales. I still remember when I took a game to friend's house to play and tried to do online only to be met with 'lol buy our online pass goy".

>>379638774
Because splitscreen gameplay was always more popular in Halo than any other game ever.

Always online DRM for singleplayer games

>>379638774
read
>>379638817

>>379638817
Literally just play it from the couch while your friend plays it from his couch. Once you move out and stop having mommy make your share your consoles with your little brother. Couch co-op and split screen becomes a thing of the past.

>BUT NO I CAN'T ENJOY THE GAME UNLESS I'M SUCKING MY FRIENDS COCK OFF WHILE WE PLAY

>>379639112
and when official servers go down?

>>379638464
FFXV. Hear me out.

>Game released unfinished
>Said they'd update it to be better
>Hardcore fans bought it on day 1, unknowingly buying an unfinished product
>Millions of hardcore fans had their first experience ruined
>Crucial plot points hidden behind an anime and a film
>To top it off, large parts of the game's story either unfinished or locked behind future DLC

What can be more anti-consumer than releasing a game unfinished to rabid fans, then asking for more money to understand the story, THEN asking for even MORE money to get plot points that were left out of the main game...THEN have to play the game from start to finish again in order to get all the additional content from the updates?

It baffles me people defend the state FFXV was released in.

>>379639221
When the servers go down you'll have moved onto the next garbage hype generator.

DRM
>we consider you - the paying customer - a potential criminal whilst knowing the pirate gets the better product

>>379639445
sounds like you've been divorced/moved around a lot in life. some of us love things and hold them forever

>>379638628
I'd agree if I didn't also have to pay for online to play co-op.

>>379638464
>saving you from having to buy two xbox worth of consoles to have enough power to play couch co op since the game has to render twice
>anti consumer

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>>379638817
>ALL THOSE FUCKING WIRES

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>>379638464
I don't own three Xbox so I might be wrong a bit here. Certain streaming services such as YouTube and Netflix required an Xbox Gold membership to use. It's pretty mean to customers who bought the thing to use for those features and limits the potential customers for these services.

>>379638897
I think battlefield had these. That shit was pretty scummy.

>>379638774
There's no point to console gaming without splitscreen

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>>379638464

Nintendo making you perpetually buy games on their virtual consoles.

Fuck you NINTENDO, stop peddling me the same games over and over again on different platforms

>>379639498
>whilst knowing the pirate gets the better product
How, its the sane product

>>379639869
>How is a product without DRM the better product
Notch up a noose and hang yourself with it

>>379639606
you seriously believe halo 5 was that demanding? cutting splitscreen was a move to drive sales up.

Everything Gearbox has done in the past decade.

>>379638464
consoles in general

>>379638783
Die from cancer you subhuman son of a whore, die a pain ful death.

Anyone who hates Steam should die a painful death. Steam single handedly saved PC gaming and is the only reason major games get a PC release. GOD BLESS STEAM.

The most anti-consumer move was paid online for consoles, go die with your whore mothers if you disagree.

>>379640024
of course it is

it has to render TWO(2, too) times

>>379638464
Why would you even play a console FPS if not for local splitscreen? I don't get it.

>>379639992
i think he was agreeing with you dumbass

>>379638464
Xbone reveal
>no used games
>online required for offline play
>could only let a friend borrow a game for x amount of time
>"if you dont have a stable internet connection buy xbox 360"

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Splitscreen is for poor faggots who didnt know any better, but there is no reason why the game shouldnt have had System Link.

Splitscreen is a relic of the past, nobody enjoys playing at fucking sub 240p and if you say you do you're either blind or shit or both.

>>379640135
(you)

>>379640135
Hahahahahahahah
Wow

>>379639685
Battlefield had DLC passes, nothing about online passes.

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>>379638464
Amiibos.

"Hey let's lock exclusive in game content behind figures that you can't fucking buy anywhere due to scalpers and jaded faggots!"
I'm really glad someone found a way to copy the data on them and effectively "pirate" them.

>>379640493
"Optional content"

>>379640209
it has been consistantly possible since the first fucking installment. theres no excuse for 5 to not have it. they shifted priorities. if they wanted the game to have 4 player local co op, it could have. they chose to focus on fucking us instead. \forge maps sometimes lag with 1 player, so with 4 it would be a nightmare.
i'll give yo that. the option should still be there

>>379638628
>adults don't get together with friends
You poor bastard

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>>379640470
>didn't refute what I said
One day I hope you sons of whores do an irl /v/ meeting so I can gun you all down, eat led motherfuckers, die a painful death motherfuckers, GOD BLESS STEAM.

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>>379639420
I remember the threads we had here after that article got posted talking about how the game isn't open world after completing a certain chapter.
It was hilarious.

>>379640267
>i think he was agreeing with you dumbass
>i think

Dumbass if it's not objective and you yourself acknowledge that it's not the reader's fault for the writer's shit abilities.

>>379638464
Funnily enough it's the east Asian merchants that are the jewiest. Their countries had to make laws to lessen predatory gacha schemes. It's like usury but vidya.

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>>379640481
I believe you are mistaken friend.

>>379640553
>Just because they call it "optional" nullifies that its on the disk that you paid for and its locked behind McDonalds Toys
You're literally as dumb as the chucklefucks that defended Mass Effect 3, and you've done it like 10x more without having any sort of shame.

>>379640553
If you can't access it without the amiibo(or pirating), then I fail to see how it's optional.

>>379640384
Holy shit what an awful opinion.

>>379640135
kys

>>379640847
Wow you're shitting me, i brought BF3 used on Xbox 360 way back in the day and never remembered having to deal with that. The big game that did it that i remembered was Mortal Kombat 9.

>>379641015
come meet me irl, I promise you I will kill you. GOD BLESS STEAM.

>>379638817
>2 TVs
>4 xbox which have 12 plugged controllers
>11 controllers in the view area
>The TVs only shows 8 players
All this triggers me and I don't even know why

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>>379638817
holy shit is that a young geoff?

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>There exist people who think a lack of splitscreen is a good thing
It's the biggest advantage consoles have over PC.

>>379641125
Can't you read you dumb nigger? I said KILL YOURSELF

>>379639685
They changed it so that you don't need gold for netflix, ect

>>379641019
They got rid of it around the end of BF3 life

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>>379641221
yup

>>379638464
>what was the single most anti consumer move?

Always-online resident DRM.
Flat currency conversion rates.
Full retail price for a download.

>>379641125
i know it's bait but this is funny because /r/PCmasterrace actually believes this

Xbox One DRM, turned alot of people off when it was announced.

DRM in general tends to take the cake. Couldn't tell you the worst ever but I'm thinking it was either SecuROM or Starforce. Maybe that SFV one that straight up installed a rootkit.

Ignoring that though probably any time someone tries to argue that consumers shouldn't be allowed to refund games if they find them disappointing.

>>379638783

Man I honestly forgot about paid mods. They're definitely high on the list.

>>379641474
>things you in no way have to buy are anti consumer

>Nintendo releases their cheapest system yet for upgrading to four simultaneous players

>It's anti-consumer

>compatible with third party memory cards and ethernet adapters.

>anti
>consumer

Okay

>>379641874
>needing an ethernet adapter in the first place

>>379641783
That porno game that took screenshots of your desktop.

Remember when games had online passes? On top of paying for online on consoles?

Yeah I'm glad that bullshit died out in like a year and a half.

>>379641327
Can you read nigger? I don't care about what you command me to do, I will murder you son of a whore.

>>379641596
I AM SERIOUS, you retarded son of a whore. I've been on /v/ for 8 years, get cancer, die from ebola, STEAM IS GODLY. I LOVE STEAM. STEAM SAVED PC GAMING, YOU UNDERAGE SON OF A WHORE. Before Steam, PC gaming was a shitfest.

GOD BLESS STEAM. GOD BLESS VALVE.

This is why I only buy games on Steam :) I will give them market monopoly with a smile on my face :))) Fuck Uplay (Fuck Ubishit, they need to go bankrupt, they are destroying gaming), Fuck Origin (Fuck EA, they need to go bankrupt, the damage they have done to gaming is beyond meassure), Fuck Blizzard-Activision and their battle.faggot.net, they haven't made a good game in a decade and last but not least, fuck GoG, it is for cucks, gets 20 years old games, lmfao @ fallout 1 and 2 sale, WOWOOWOWOOWOW GUYZ!!!! GET HYPOE!!!! 20-30 years old games HAHAHAHAHAHA NICE NICE NICE.

Absolute cancer. God bless Steam, savior of PC gaming.

>>379638628
Because you have zero friends and anybody who defends it. Is in the same boat

>Ctrl+F "stinks"
>0 results

This thread stinks!

>>379642016
Completely optional, just use wifi

Just about everything regarding the way Nintendo handles their business.

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>>379642697
>just use a wireless connection for a multiplayer game

>>379643045
Nintendo games aren't competitive autism, wireless is enough

>>379641874
Switch doesn't have a real Dpad

The pro controller is mandatory.

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>Halo
>Reminded that Rooster Teeth is making more RvB
Time to binge it for old times sake.

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>>379643168

Amiibos are pretty up there.

DLC, paid online, denuvo, exclusives.. there are just too many.

>>379643168
I'm sure that's why For Glory exists.

For the casuals.

>>379643409
I'd say it's top 3.

>>379638464
Xbox live subscriptions

>>379638464
Consoles. Literally hardware DRM.

>>379643392
>respond to someone using "autism"
>uses a screen grab of a Blink 182 off shoot project
bruuuuuuhhhhh

>>379643642
Good choice. It's up there for sure because Sony and Nintendo caught on because so many people were willing to pay.

>>379638464
Direct download/always connected games.

>Buy game once
>Can't resell if it sucks
>Can't lend it to a friend
>Online means devs ship garbage and patch as they go
>Premium micro dlc everywhere

These next couple generations of games as service are going to be shit.

>>379638464
almost forgot to be mad about this today

>>379643313
>Making more Red vs Blue
So much for it ending.

>>379643863
I guess i have to spell it out for you.

I was disagreeing with your statement.

>>379639556
I second this. Just beat Halo 2 and Reach on LASO this weekend with a bud. Good shit.

>>379643168
>Have connection issues because it's a wireless connection
>But it's okay because i'm not trying to be competitive
Do you even listen to yourself

>>379643765
I can't imagine anybody above a certain age posting something like this.

>>379638628
>Want to go over to my brothers house
>If we want to play Halo 5, I have to bring my xbox one over, and he has to set up a separate tv for me, which usually ends up being on the coffee table and is uncomfortable for everyone
>Otherwise we have to be in separate rooms

Yeah man, not an issue at all I love giant hassles.

>>379642290
JFC, man. Take your anti-psychotic meds and lie down for a while. Getting this angry over people not liking Steam can't be good for your health.

>>379638628
I don't know about you but I didn't stop having friends when I became an adult.

The limited installs DRM scheme that Warner Bros and others were trying for a while.
GFWL going offline with no replacement, rendering several games unplayable.
Consoles, generally, especially the entry of the Xbox and the shift to unabashed DRM-PCs, literally just small form factor PCs with locked-down versions of common operating systems.
All the heinous anti-competitive shit Nintendo did when they were the hegemony.
All the heinous aggressive IP-protection that has become commonplace only in the last few years (eg. going after artists for convention sketches, trying to claim ownership of words outright ('Scrolls', 'Prey'/'Pray'), outright piracy with youtube monetization).
Microtransaction schemes amounting to absolutely nothing more than slot machines, cynically targeting victims as such (gambling masquerading as entertainment).

Paid mods would be here, IF it had actually happened. Instead Valve listened to the feedback and cancelled the whole thing. DEVILS!

>>379638628
One of the few legitimate reasons to own a console instead of a PC is split screen

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>>379640336
>tfw I loved 360 and then the reveal

>>379641874
>defending this shit
>leddit spacing